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Welcome to Chrisley Confessions 2.0. Now, folks, for all of you that listen to us every week, you know that I always bring out and expose all the corruption that I can because once you have been sent away to a busted summer camp where the accommodations are not four seasons worthy, it changes your perspective towards things. Well, if you've been following us here in the last few weeks, you now know about the corrupt and ratchet Judge Eleanor Ross, a federal judge there in Fulton County. Now, I have seen all these videos out here of all this screaming and yelling and primal mating cries and whatever. And we all know that she has now admitted to banging the guy with the Atlanta Police Department. um while she was married while she is married to brian ross who is a state judge um and this guy she was banging is married um but listen i don't care i really don't care if she got her back blowed out i don't care at the end of the day what i do care about is fairness I care about corruption at the highest level because whether you agree with me being pardoned or whether you don't, whether you hate the man that pardoned me or whether you love him, at the end of the day, you should be concerned as to whether or not in your course of life, you may end up in a courtroom with a judge as corrupt as Judge Eleanor Ross. Now, as of yesterday, there has been two motions filed for an impeachment in D.C. against Judge Eleanor Ross. What some of you may not know, and those of you who watch Unlocked with Savannah, you will maybe recognize my next guest, former Sheriff Victor Hill. Victor was also placed on trial in Eleanor Ross's courtroom. And today I bring him here, not for not to both of us tag team Eleanor Ross. I mean, she may like that, but regardless of that, I didn't bring you here for that. I brought you here because when all of this happened, you had reached out and then you said I was on your daughter Savannah's podcast. So then you and I started communicating via message and then I started texting you. You had reached out to Savannah, I think, and we started sharing horror stories. Yes. And folks, it's not just me that she did this to because you're going to have one side of viewership that's going to say, but you're a white, privileged individual who doesn't believe that the jury was fair. And because you're rich and you come from this, it's you shouldn't have had to suffer. You're right, I shouldn't have.

But with that being said, I believe in law and order.

I don't necessarily believe in the jury system at this point because I don't feel like that. I think that if you have a judge that is running their courtroom the way they're supposed to and making sure that fairness is being doled out, then then maybe the jury system works. We didn't have that. We had a judge that. Again, I'm hung up on this because I just think if you ratchet your ratchet, you can't be walking into a courtroom and not have shoes on. Um, you have to control your jury box. You can't be having jurors coming in and asking if they wear their pajamas and that she granted. Um, there is a pro there's a certain level of decorum that you have to go off of. And that certainly does not happen in Eleanor Ross's courtroom. I think rather than focus on whether or not I'm privileged or whether or not you think that because of who we are is why we got the pardon. That's okay. You're allowed to feel that way because we live in a country to where you're allowed to feel how you feel. What's not okay is if you're not paying attention to what we're exposing here. Understand that I didn't expose this judge. Her own clerks exposed her. Her own peer group that handed down this lack of punishment, which is now being looked at again, said this woman was signing orders that these clerks were writing that she had no input in. She just signed. Folks, that could be your father, your brother, your husband, your mother, your sister, your daughter, your grandchild, your child that goes in front of a judge that's just not doing their job. And the reason they don't do their job is because they have life tenure. You can't remove them unless you impeach them. So I want you to pay close attention today because we're going to talk with Victor Hill today about what he went through and all the corruption that you have uncovered. And then I'm going to read you a message because this is how God works. I'm going to read you a message from someone who also went in front of judge ross who judge ross sabotaged the woman went to prison and she filed the woman went to prison she learned law she filed her own appeal won her appeal she comes out after judge ross told the prison to hold her an additional 45 days just to be vindictive. She should have been released immediately. But Judge Ross instructed the prison that she would send the marshals after this woman. There's no need to send the marshals. She's already won her appeal. So as soon as she comes out after the 45 days that she was made to stay, she's reindicted on the same charge and goes back in front of the same judge she's already beat

on appeal. This time, this woman represented herself and she was acquitted. And I'll have her on my podcast here in the next two weeks to tell her story. So what I'd also like to put out there today is that if you believe you have been a victim of Judge Eleanor Ross, please reach out to us here at Chrissy Confessions 2.0, or reach out to me on my personal Instagram at Todd Chrisley. Give me your information. Our attorneys will vet it and we'll have you on to talk about your story because I want each and every individual that has been mistreated or has had a miscarriage of justice in Judge Eleanor Ross's courtroom. I want you with us in D.C. when we go there for this impeachment. So with that being said, let's move on and let's speak with Mr. Victor Hill. How are you today? I'm doing great. It's good to be here, Todd. I appreciate you coming. Absolutely. It's been such a breath of fresh air, not because I think that, you know, you do commiserate with people that have gone through a lot of the same things. Yes. And it does create that bond. And I talk I've talked about that so much about the men that I became friends with in prison, because, you know, it's almost like I looked at it like this must be what it's like if you go to war. You know, this must be like if you're in armed forces together, you know, with a group of guys and you build this camaraderie and you're looking out for each other, you know, and whatever. That was the experience I had. You ended up going to a low, which I did not even know that. I was at a camp. So now I kind of feel like a little bitch over here complaining about my camp when you went to a low.

Right. And let me tell you, they can say low all they want. That's kind of a farce. Let me tell you why. As you know, the Bureau of Prisons, they have this system where you could be in a low and work your way up to a high or be in a high and work your way down to a low. So, you know, I was in a housing unit with bank robbers. One guy shot a cop, one killed a cop. You know, it's not like, OK, well, everyone there is low security like we ran in a county jail when I was a sheriff.

was a totally different thing there and uh and no doubt and it wasn't by it no doubt it was by design it wasn't a coincidence that they put me in the worst housing unit there the one where the stabbings are and that had to be by design and of course we'll talk about that and how we know that came about as well but you brought up something that I want to address um I was listening to you intently and um you brought up some good points how a lot of people have this uh perception that because you're rich, because you're white, and because you're privileged that this is an issue or a factor in it. And, you know, this is not about white and black or rich and poor. This is about right or wrong.

Whether people realize it. Right. I mean, you and I are both black. Exactly. And then this other woman that's coming on is African-American.

Exactly. But it's even deeper than that. You know, before I was sheriff, I used to be in homicide, right? And we used to go to these psychological profiling classes, and it taught us a lot. I'm not going to say I'm a psychologist. But Judge Ross, she fits the profile of what I write about in my book, about this experience with her, the prison, and everything else in the false prosecution. She fits the Robert Ford syndrome to the max. And so to understand what that is, you've got to know who Robert Ford is. Robert Ford is the man that staged the shootout with Jesse James and shot him in the back. he felt that if he shot jesse jane he would be the celebrity absolutely and she fits that profile to the max when you look at the fact that after she prosecuted you as she do she went to wikipedia and put on there i'm the judge that sentenced to chrisley's um you know a lot of similar behavior in my case but there are a lot of people that they have prosecutorial power and putting them and that type of power is just as dangerous as giving a gun to Robert Ford. Absolutely. And if they see someone that they think is a celebrity or someone that has wealth or anything, and they feel like they should have attained that, because you've got to think most federal judges are anonymous. Most federal prosecutors are anonymous. They feel that they can get fame by going after someone with your status, and we see it all the time, especially in Atlanta, not just with the folks like her, but even on a county level. in my county and, of course, Fulton County is infamous for it.

Well, you know, I can remember I had bought a very large property in Buckhead and we needed to have zoning done because there was a creek that ran through some of the property and that was considered wetlands. And what we were building, you know, we needed to move some of that dirt over. And I remember that when the builder put in for the variance, everything was going smoothly, no issues. And then they found out it was us. And they stopped the work and said there would need to be more valuation done. And then we were approached that the work order could be reinstated if we paid a $50,000 fine. Perfect example. And we never there was never a fine to be paid because, hell, we never knew we did anything that our builder did anything wrong. Exactly. Now, we fought it and we won it. But they fought us tooth and nail. The guy who was demanding the fifty thousand dollars, he had other board members on there that was that were in everyone else's pocket as well. Right. That was backing him up. So they kept stalling every step that we took and we were not even involved in it. We were not even in Atlanta a lot at that time. That's true. But the corruption that you see in Fulton County is off the chain. Let's talk about the relationship that Judge Eleanor Ross has with Fonnie Willis.

Absolutely. Fonnie Willis. And in my case, even more importantly, another unknown, Tasha Mosley.

Now, is Tasha Mosley the one that when she smiles, you don't know whether to say hey or nay? That would be her. I have never seen that much gum in a dentine commercial. Yeah, I don't think I have either.

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My case involves a political battle that I've had with the Clayton County DA since I was sheriff. And I write a lot about that in my book. It started way back then. This wasn't their first attempt at me. Before they came with these shenanigans, back in 2012, I became the first sheriff in the history of the country to be indicted on RICO charges. And everybody thought I was like the John Gotti of the county or something. But if you look at the charges, I was actually charged with stealing my own police car, the same car, five times, three times in a two-week period. And then they said every time I put gas in the car, it was another charge. And they put it all under RICO. We've got a lot of RICO queens in Atlanta when it comes to that type of charge, as you probably know. So it's not the first time. Of course, I was acquitted of that.

Well, what people don't understand is that with RICO, it's kind of like a trash can. It's a catch-all for anything that they can throw in there.

Exactly. But it was really designed for the mob. For the mob. Exactly, or whatever. But, you know, next thing you look, these people, they start going after teachers and everything. Fanny Wallace was actually going after teachers with the RICO charge.

But it was only supposed to be used for organized crime. Exactly. And now these prosecutors have taken it as a catch-all and started using it for anything that they want to use it for.

Absolutely.

When they have a weak case.

Right. Absolutely. So Tasha Mosley arranges another case with me. But this time, you know, I'm acquitted.

first time in Clayton County. I mean, they saw it through. It was thrown out and everything like that. And of course, she probably wouldn't feel comfortable taking me before a Clayton County jury because they all know me and they know the political history. So next thing you look, we make history again. I'm the only, the first and the only sheriff law enforcement officer to be indicted for ordering someone to be in a stranger. No physical contact, nothing. I mean, you can go on YouTube. someone just sent me a video and it shows the exact same scenario just put up on a show and you don't see them being indicted so i'm the first and i'm the only well when it happened but

you can't but not to interrupt you but you can't say that it was racial because the people that brought the prosecutors that brought you up were also of color that's another thing that's important

for people to understand the u.s attorney ryan buchanan african-american judge ross african-american Tasha Mosley, African-American, Jeff Turner, who was a chairman at that time, who was actively involved in it because he wanted to run for chair of all African-Americans. So this is exactly this is not nothing that you can say, well, it's the white man. It wasn't the white man. So I'm glad you brought that up. So you're talking about all members of my same race and you're talking about all members of my same party because I ran as a Democrat. So all of them are involved in this. Yes, folks.

I told you, I'm friends with some Democrats.

Right, right. And I'm friends with Republicans. There you go. Right, right. We cross party lines. That's right. So anyway, what got real interesting was a former U.S. prosecutor read this case and knew something was wrong because she had worked in that office prior. And she said, I have never seen a case like this before. And she said, not only that, the Supreme Court has already ruled that you can't charge a person with color law violations unless there is an exact case replica that's already been proven criminally or civilly. Usually it has to be civil first in situations like this. Those cases are not supposed to go before a jury. So she joins my legal team, which thank God she did because the legal team I had is kind of like the ones you just sued. We'll talk about that later. Exactly. So anyway, she files a motion. Two rulings from the Supreme Court come down right at the time I'm being indicted. That clearly says if this has never happened before, if there's nothing out there, those cases are not supposed to go before a jury. So we're thinking, no problem, it should get thrown out because of the shenanigans. Well, it doesn't. And we thought that was mighty strange. And the reasons it wasn't thrown out was very vague, very weak. Well, then we started connecting the dots. It turns out that Judge Ross is friends with the district attorney that took this case to Ryan Buchanan. Tasha Mosley. Right. She's a district attorney at Clayton County. Okay. Not only are they friends, her husband used to work for Tasha Mosley.

So Judge Ross's husband, Brian, who is now a state judge, used to work for Tasha Mosley, the DA, who brought the charges against you. Absolutely. Now, that right there should have been grounds for recusal. Exactly. She should have recused herself right there. Now, you know that she's had several requests for recusal on cases here in the last week. No doubt.

And she'd get thousands of them. So then we find out, not only that, she's Facebook friends with one of my political opponents, a person that ran against me for sheriff and tried to use this opportunity to run against me for sheriff again. And her husband is friends with the guy who was behind this plot, hoping that he could become sheriff. So you got all of this going on. So then later, another bizarre incident comes up and a woman comes forth. Her name is Katrina Holloway. And she had a not that type of relationship, but a friendship. I mean, I think they're even distance cousins. I don't think four cousins count. And she started talking about the conversation she was having with Tasha Mosley during my trial. That he was having. That she was having with Tasha Mosley. That was Ross. Right, right. Well, no, Katrina was having conversations with Tasha Mosley. And Tasha Mosley was telling her things that she was getting from Judge Ross during my trial.

So again, ex parte communication, right? Folks, what that means is, is that a judge is not allowed to have any conversation regarding a case that she has with anyone regarding that case, unless your attorneys are present and the prosecutors are present. She was communicating with the prosecutor, Tasha Mosley. Yes. She was communicate. Judge Ross was communicating with her without your attorneys being present. Absolutely. So that's that's clear ex parte communication.

It gets even interesting, despite the fact that she basically rigs the whole trial. She she approves this motion in liminey that pretty much handcuffs me from presenting the same thing.

that we needed right because there's a lot of information that that that no a jury would have been looking like where did this come from the connections you know the to to the camp to a campaign and everything like that that we can get into later but what was real disturbing was despite all of the cheating that they did it was still a hung jury for four days and then eventually it came down to this one juror one of them of course she successfully kicked off. Same thing she did with y'all. She kicked off one on hours that was leaning in our favor, and she kicked her off and claimed that she was asleep. The woman was never asleep. Well, this got very, very interesting because I don't think anyone's ever seen this in the history of federal court. No one can find a case like it. This holdout juror was called out not once, but twice in front of everybody in front of the media. There was a foreman on a jury that obviously was trying to work hand in hand with judge ross to see if she could get this guy kicked off she sent out approximately five notes accusing this guy of all type of stuff every time she called him out and asked a question he was able to answer it he was like no that's not true he said i'm looking at willful intent i'm looking at this and that the man said they're yelling at me they're screaming at me they're calling me names and she sent him back in anyway well what's interesting about Katrina Holloway's recount of this because she actually gave an interview for a documentary on this case. She said that Tasha Mosley told her that, hey, we're working on this holdout juror. They're going to get in touch with his family and make sure he gets his medication. Okay, if that's even true, how would they know that? And why are they having this type of conversations?

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When the attorney I told you about that came on board with the ex-prosecutor filed a motion saying, hey, this should be a mistrial, Judge Ross came in the next day and ignored it like she didn't even see it.

She did the same thing with us when we found out that the IRS agent had lied. We knew the IRS agent was lying. But once we found out that there was an email from the IRS agent to the prosecutors letting them know she claimed she made a mistake, a $590,000 mistake, folks. She claimed that she made a mistake and that the taxes had actually been paid, but that they were filed under Julie's name, not my name. Absolutely. And so that was her statement. And this this is IRS agent Betty Carter, who claimed on the stand that she worked in the division that dealt with high profile, high net worth individuals and had been with the IRS for 30 years. Folks, how does someone who's in that division and worked that long with the IRS, how and they looked at our tax transcripts 12,000 times, they pulled it 12,000 times over the course of three years. How do you not find that that $590,000 payment was paid 12 months after it was due? You're right. How do you not find that? She knew it all along. But now what happened was she had to get on the stand. So she realized I have now committed perjury. So I need to go back and try to clean this up. She sends an email to Tommy Crap and Annalise Peters, the prosecutors in our case. They never brought her back to the stand to clean it up. Nor did they ever turn over that email to our defense side showing that she had lied. So that was exculpatory evidence that they withheld.

Yes.

And when our attorney, Alex Little, started filing these motions, Judge Ross just refused to respond to them. Exactly. It wasn't until we filed the appeal and right before we were going for the appeal hearing, she denied every motion that he had filed. Every motion.

and it wasn't some type of statement that you can file what you want i'm gonna deny it anyway yes she did exactly she said you can file whatever you want it's gonna be denied exactly now folks

that's what you're facing if you don't get on board with holding these judges and prosecutors accountable because let me tell you something it's easy to be a keyboard cowboy to go on here to go on social media and say, well, you know, you got what you deserved. It's easy to say that, but you're not going to say that when it's your child or your loved one or you. It's easy for you to sit here and say, well, I wouldn't be in that position. Neither did I think I'd be in that position.

Absolutely.

You don't know, but by the grace of God, go you and I. So be careful about spitting up in the air because you don't know where it's going to land.

Very, very true. And I think people need to understand this. If this judge was bold enough to do that to you, to do that to me with people.

With as many eyeballs on it as what was ours.

What do you think she's done to many others? That have no voice. And would have done if something didn't happen, if the hand of God didn't come in and put a stop to this. You see what I'm saying?

But I say that that is, and I believe this in my heart of hearts, Victor. I believe that God allowed me to go through what I went through so that I could see the corruption within the Bureau of Prisons. and the abuse that's handed down by these staff members and the guards and mostly these wardens that condone it. Judge Ross is just like a corrupt warden in the prison system. Yes. It's a godlike complex. I agree. It comes down to right's right and wrong's wrong. If I'm guilty and you convict me in a fair manner and you proved your case, I can live with that. I can live with But I remember when she sent the jurors out and our attorneys said, but your honor, this information that they're putting in front of a jury is going to be inflammatory and it's not true. She said, I'm going to give them latitude. And when I feel like it's too much, well, at that point, you've already tainted the jury. When you start talking about, you know, young kids, my kids living in multimillion dollar homes are jumping on private planes to go have their hair done or.

making this amount of money, when you start doing that, you're laying the groundwork for a jury poll to build resentment towards the defendant. That's all you're doing. And when you look at a 98% success rate with the Department of Justice, when you look at that, what most folks don't understand is that the reason that that rate is so high is because they bullied people into accepting a plea deal that way they still get that conviction absolutely what and you know with you being you know you've identified as a democrat with you being a democrat what's baffling to me victor is that the democratic party is supposed to be about fairness it's supposed to be about equality it's supposed to be about governing the judicial system but yet no one is coming in here and saying let's fight this prosecutorial, you know, let's fight, you know, stripping away from these prosecutors, you know, their prosecutorial immunity. Let's stop this lifetime appointment of judges. Now, I was watching this the other day where the Democrats are now furious over the Supreme Court and they want to stop all of this lifetime appointment. Well, you're doing that now because they ruled against you in a motion that you felt like you should have won, so now you want to strip that. But when we're coming here telling you this is what's happening at the federal level, none of these Democrats are coming forward and saying this needs to happen.

Yeah, you know, let me say this. You know, like I said, prior to being sheriff, a lot of people don't remember this, but I was actually a state representative in Georgia for one term. And during that time, it was very interesting because we got a Republican governor for the first time in 100 years because the state was blue for all those years. And, you know, I was a freshman legislator, but I was able to actually do something that most people don't do when they go to state Congress. And that's actually I was able to author and pass four bills in the law. And how did I do that? I did that by working across party lines because, you know, regardless of what we disagree on, the real point is what can we agree on and what can we get done for the people? That's the most important thing. I think the sad thing that really saddens me, because, you know, I got friends on both aisles and I got friends that ask me every day, why are you still Democrat, especially after what they did to you? And I think this is what people are going to understand has happened. If you look at my county, my county has some of the greatest people there.

But don't you think Atlanta as a whole has been a great city? And I think that our city took a turn, and I say our because I was there for 20 years. I think our city took a turn 10, 15 years ago is when I started seeing that turn. I agree. And the Democrats started pitting the Democrats against the Republicans and the Republicans against the Democrats. Because I can remember, you know, in 1986, when I moved to Atlanta, you had American Pie there on Roswell Road. You had all these great spots and everyone went black, white, Hispanic, you know, Puerto Rican, whatever. It was a melting pot. Atlanta was like what I considered the southern version of New York City, of Manhattan.

You know, I agree. Let me tell you this. My loyalty is to the voters in my county. I think, unfortunately, we elected some very, very bad leaders in the Democratic Party. And I don't think that's reflective of the voters. You know, look at my county. My county is 85 percent African-American. There's I have a reputation for being tough on crime. And they elected me overwhelmingly. Over and over again. If you look at this case, this whole case was brought as a way they know they couldn't beat me at the polls. So they had to find another way to get me out. So if you look at the population in my county, they had no problem with tough on crime. They have no problem. I think if you look at the actual people, it's not reflective of the leadership that you see. And unfortunately, they don't have too much to choose from right now. You know, when I was thinking about running for Congress and I changed my mind for some other reasons, I campaigned a lot on it. I was like, we need to bring some strong masculinity back to the Democratic Party. Not all Democrats are soft on crime. Not all Democrats believe ridiculous stuff and believe that we should be caught that to be a Democrat. You've got to hate Republicans and we got to be fighting each other. That's not how things are done, because if you're truly there to serve the people, you're going to have to learn how to build bridges and at least see what can we agree on as opposed to what we don't agree on that can help the masses of the people. And unfortunately, that's not being done. And unfortunately, we ended up with a lot of people that got elected on the Democratic side. And unfortunately, they became prosecutors and judges. And there's a certain class of them that they believe that they know better than the electric. So they believe that if they don't think you should be in a particular elected office, then they have the right to come up with some type of weird prosecution to remove you from that. And I've also told people this, and I will say it again and over again. So if if you don't like Todd Chrisley, then don't watch your show. That's it. OK. If you don't like me, if you don't like the president, that's your right. Then don't vote for us. But to think that you can indict someone and imprison them simply because you don't want to see them attain an elected office that, you know, they have the majority of the vote for is wrong. Regardless of whether you're pro this, pro that, agree with this or agree with that. That's your right. And that brings up another interesting point about my trial. I want to make sure we get to that holdout juror was all the white male. And at one point during the trial, the foreman sends out one of these five notes, you know, just talking about why this guy should be gone. And she said something very interesting. She said that this juror believes that the president and the sheriff has certain immunities.

Now, it's very interesting because that's the time when the president had a case before the Supreme Court dealing with immunity. So if you could have seen the look on Judge Ross's face and you could see how they tried. It's almost like they were bringing partisan politics. He has a right. If that's the case, he has that right to support who he wants to support. What does that have to do with my trial? So it became a thing of partisan politics, and it was very, very interesting and very, very wrong. And if I remember correctly, researching your case, something came up like that with one of your jury members, didn't it?

We had multiple – well, we had multiple jurors because there was that fighting going on in the jury room. And all of our – the majority of our jurors were polled and was interviewed by our investigators afterwards. And they were recorded, these interviews, and we're going to use them in a documentary that I'm working on now about our case. Excellent. We will use those audio recordings with those jurors. And 90 percent of the jurors that were polled and interviewed stated that they convicted us because they did not, not that they believed my former CEO, but that they believed the IRS agent and the prosecutor. And they did not believe that the prosecutor or the IRS agent would lie. The next question was, had you known the IRS agent lied under oath, would you have still convicted? Ninety percent of them said absolutely not. Exactly. And Judge Ross, she knew that Betty Carter had lied and did not allow her to be brought back to the stand.

You know, it's important for me to interject. They said approximately 50,000 people every year is wrongfully convicted. And that happens because of judges like Judge Ross. That's right. And rogue prosecutors like Tommy Cripp and Annalise Peters. Absolutely, and Tasha Mosley, exactly. And when you think that you can use the criminal justice system as a means to enforce your politics, that's wrong. The voters, when the voters speak, that's their right. They have a right to like who they like, vote for who they vote for, and to disenfranchise a particular group of people because they don't agree with your political ideologies is absolutely wrong. And that's what we're seeing going on. But when you use the criminal justice system to do that, that goes against everything our forefathers fought for for this country. This is supposed to be the country where you're supposed to have freedom of religion, freedom of religious, you know, everything. I mean, politics or whatever like that. When we're kids, right, what do they tell us? You can be anything you want to do. They say you can run for president if you want. That's what they tell us, right?

We were raised in a country to where, as a child, you were taught that in this country you can be and become whoever you want to be if you work hard enough. I don't believe in this country anymore that that really is true because I believe now that, and this is happening on both sides, because, listen, as a Republican, I don't believe we get it right all the time. No side gets it right all the time. We have representatives in D.C. right now that are the Republican Party that are members of the House and of the Senate that are not getting it right. And then we have so many on the Democrat side that are not getting it right. And we have to take out we have to take personal feelings out of it. Not everyone is meant to get along.

Not everyone is meant to be best friends, but when you are an elected official, you're saying to the people that you're vying for that vote, I can go and represent you in a manner that will be respectful and that will make you proud of taking the time to go to the voter box and giving me your vote. When you go on national television and you're attacking this one and you're attacking that one and, you know, Jasmine Crockett was noted for that and so was Marjorie Taylor. But and then you had Marjorie Taylor Greene on our side and two women up there fighting amongst each other. It's so unbecoming. And then you have members of Congress that are doing these congressional meetings that they don't even know what they're talking about. All they're talking about is the hatred that they have for the other side. And when I was I can remember going to school and I remember Miss Pohl. She was she was my teacher, African-American teacher, and she was the kindest, sweetest woman. And I learned so much from her. And she always was able to bring everyone together.

We need more of that. We need more of that. You know, there's this fight now about partisanship on certain elected officials. And I think it's a legitimate point there, because take my position, for instance, as a sheriff. Okay, when someone dials 911, do we look to see, okay, well, is he Democrat or Republican? Is he white or black? Is he pro-life or is he pro-choice? It's a 911 call. It doesn't matter whether you're straight, gay, or homophobic. That has nothing to do with it. You call a 911 because you're being rape, robbed, or murdered. And my job is to get there and make sure it stops. That's right. And your political affiliation should have nothing to do with that. It has absolutely nothing to do with that. And when you're in those type of positions, positions of the judiciary or offices of the court like the sheriff is, that's very, very important because the people in my county, even though the Democrats outnumber the Republicans, the Republicans are there, good people, supported me, everything. And they want to live safe, too. Everybody wants to live safe. So at that point, we got to understand. And that's why judges like Judge Ross are so dangerous, because her and her friends, Tasha Mosley, Fannie Willis, they believe that partisan politics plays a part and that they should be able to control elections by using their power to prosecute. And that's wrong. You're talking and you're talking about imprisoning people. So that means, you know, technically, at the end of the day, you were a prosecutor for being Todd Chrisley. We now know that that's because we have the email that says to catch a big fish. Exactly. I was prosecuted for being a victim here. OK, and there's no federal law against me. OK, if Judge Ross perceives you as being arrogant, she said that about me.

OK, well, she said to us that we had shown no remorse over the excessive amounts of money that we had made and spent. And I'm not sure if you're doing that because you're setting this up for an appeal. but I'm not moved by it.

My point exactly. In my case, she said it at my sentencing. You know, I don't think she's aware that there are errors everywhere. Someone that worked back in that office overheard her saying, I can't stand him, I think he's arrogant or whatever.

I guess she should have removed herself at that point.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, but here's what I want her to understand. Let's just play devil's advocate. I know arrogant people when I meet them. I'm sat in your presence. You're not arrogant. I know what arrogance is. I know what evil is when I meet it, because I've been a cop 30 years. But let's just play devil's advocate. Let's just say that you're arrogant, and I am, just for lack of a better term, because of our personalities. There's no federal, state, or local law against being arrogant. No. There is none. So, I mean, and if we find one or create one and pass it into law, she should be the first to be indicting. Absolutely. Because what she did in her office is the epitome of arrogance.

But, you know, it's the epitome of arrogance for her to think that she can get her back blowed out on a government paid sofa in a government building funded by taxpayers. Right. Now, I don't know if she was in there doing the gluck gluck gluck or whatever it was she was doing. I don't give a damn. But what people and so many women of color have come back on all these posts out here that people are saying, why do you care if she's getting her? Why do you care if she's getting her freak on? It has nothing to do with this or this. It does. It has to do with the fact that you don't see this as another woman of color that now, because I believe that she was the first woman of color that was appointed to the bench there in Fulton County.

Yeah.

And you should, as a woman of color, be offended that she came in there and that she's done this Because now the rest of the country are so many people in the country are looking at that and judging these. women that are that are of color that are more suitable for that position that now may make it

harder for them to be elevated yeah and i think i think um some folks are missing the point because this this really isn't about race this is about right or wrong let me see if i can put it in a term so many people make it about race people make race about everything and and even though there are instances where that's the case this isn't it i think what people got to understand is this okay obviously if you have children you're not a virgin okay but even though that's a known fact you don't have sexual relations in front of your children that's right and you don't have sexual relations where your children can hear it that's right okay when you take on a position of authority like the sheriff or a judge in some ways it makes you a parent over a whole circuit or a whole county so whether it's inmates in the jail or whether citizens in the street they come under your protective covering because you're responsible for their safety you're responsible for everything so just like you don't have sexual relations in front of your kids why are you why would you do it absolutely and you know what people are failing because people

don't want to read they don't want to do the research whether it's a journalist or a fake journalists or whatever, because so many, the majority of the, of the articles that are written in the news today is so politically biased that if it's a, if it's a Republican that's done something wrong, then they're going, it's going to be horrible. If it's a Democrat's done something wrong, the Republican side is going to lambast it. Right. But rather than us both look for the truth, listen, if my Republican brother or sister is guilty. If you are a Republican and your name was in that damn Epstein file, your ass needs to be prosecuted. But you need to own that. That doesn't make every Republican bad. It doesn't make every Democrat bad. But what makes our parties have a stench is that we won't recognize our own shit. And we need to recognize our own shit. And right now, in this conversation that you and I are having from a Republican to a Democrat, from a white man to a black man. Absolutely. The stench that we have. No, you're black, remember? Well, I mean, where it counts.

Yes, there you go.

But, you know, the stench that we have amongst us is a corrupt judge. Absolutely. What people are failing to do the research on is that this judge, Eleanor Ross, lied in a federal investigation. Folks, let's take her getting her back blowed out out of it. Let's take the fact that they had to send her cushions off for DNA samples. That's another thing. Let's take that out of there. Let's take out of there that she literally, and this is very important, folks. Her clerks turned her in. And when her clerks turned her in and she was called in front of Judge Pryor, Chief Judge, she denied it and then blamed the clerk that turned her in by saying, well, they come here dressed inappropriately, they're using their cell phones, this is a vendetta. She was willing to implicate someone else in a crime. And get them fired. And get them fired to cover up her crime. Exactly. For her swamp crime. Absolutely. So, you know, at the end of the day, that right there, is that who you want to be a judge who's willing to lie on someone else to

get them convicted? But she also lied in your trial and my trial. Let me tell you why. Remember this you can lie by omission yes as well as commission that's right people think lying is only commission i didn't do it when you did it or whatever but when you omit things it's the same it's the same thing so if you omit that i'm friends with your political opponents when you omit that my husband used to work for the person who's pushing this when you omit those type of things that's lying so she has a history of being deceptive and her job is supposed to be to make sure think about this when you went up i don't know if you went up on a stand or not no okay

but again i wanted to and our attorney said absolutely not right well i did and guess what

she said do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth and nothing but

to help you God. Did she? No, she did not. And listen, her own colleagues found that she lied to them, and it wasn't until she found out that the judges had pulled the security camera footage showing the guy coming in there to blow her back out, that she had lied about, that there was text messages. so she didn't come back and say okay i lied to you because Because her conscience kicked in. She came back and told, yes, I lied to you because you got me. You've got the video footage of him coming into my chambers. You've got the text messages.

And I think you got the semen samples on my couch because they sent it off for the DNA. That was really the breaker. It wasn't because of her moral turpitude, which I think she has now.

See, I've not followed the blue light special in her office. I just felt like, you know, she's nasty. She's asked. And, you know, they want to talk about morals. Well, you know, she threw her morals down the drain when she lifted her skirt up, or in this case, the robe.

And then what really bothered me in your case is how she addressed and treated your daughter. Now, first, let me throw this in. I'm amazed. And I think I told your daughter this. You know, I don't have biological kids, but if I did, I would hope I would have a child that would be as loyal and fight for me the way she did for y'all.

It's rare. And I'll tell you something. I thank God every day for my children. But I thank God, especially for Savannah, because Savannah has everything in her that her mother and I cultivated. And she took everything she had been taught as a child. She taught she took everything she had learned through all the adversity that had happened in her life. Yes. And yes, even though she came from a privileged background, she still suffered adversity. And she took all of that pain and she channeled that into getting something done. And for my daughter, I remember when she spoke at the RNC and all of my buddies there at the camp that I was in in Pensacola came running. can get your daughter's on. She's speaking at the RNC. Well, I knew she was going to be speaking, but I didn't share that information. Right. And so I got up for the first time and went and watched because I made a commitment. I would not watch my children on television while I was there. And I got up and went and watched it. And I remember just standing there weeping and guys coming and putting their hand on my shoulder because at a moment when you see as a parent that your child has taken the reins of her life and that she has found her passion and that she's going to fight for what's right the moment you see your child exhibit exhibit that kind of courage it's just it's it's a feeling that i can't explain so when i watched that i was i remember looking at him saying god thank you thank you for my child but then to have her for judge ross to say she has no political bias. But then to have my daughter to come in that courtroom when Julie was there to be resentenced because she won her appeal, it was not $36 million. Judge Ross never approved $36 million. Instead, rather than Judge Ross fight it when she got back, she said, okay, we'll just say $4 million. There was $4 million lost. There was no money lost. But Judge Ross had to put a number. So why is our country not jumping on that and saying, how do you go from 36 million to 4 million? You know, you know, here's the thing. Let me get off track. How do you go from 36 million to 4 million and then turn the whole hearing into an assault charge against my daughter because she has outed you at the RNC and in interviews saying that what you did was

strong. I've never seen anything like it. You know, she even said in my sentence that she said, listen, even though it's not a part of the record, I don't mind telling you I've been watching your social media. I hope she's watching this show. She watches everything that I do. Well, good. And I hope she watched my social media over the next few weeks because I got a lot of good things

planned for her. Well, I'm going to start posting your stuff because you've been so kind to send it to me and i i get a lot of laughs out of that because folks he's just trying to be the next todd chrisley i mean the one-liners just don't stop because what was it you said this last one i don't care i don't i don't know if she was hollering for me or against me well let me say let me say this you know is that recording real is that really her you know i don't know i pray not because if it is she needs to file she needs to file assault charges against him because he beat her down yeah i well yeah you're right about that i mean damn i read some of those comments and i was dying laughing this one woman said i'd come out of that room and said they gave me a tattoo i saw that i ain't coming out of no room saying here and letting somebody hear me screaming jesus and i'm fornicating i was dying laughing over that exactly but you know when you go back to you know we're talking about savannah she spent all that time lambasting savannah

And you need to be focused on the children that's been left in your custody. Savannah's not on trial. Let me ask you something, Judge Eleanor Ross, or blowed-out-back Betty. Let's just get this straight. I need to know if you were thinking of your daughters when you were getting your back blowed out by another man other than their father. I need to know where your morals were then. I need to know why you were not focusing on your daughters. because whether you know it or not, Judge Ross, you just set the precedent of what your daughters will now take forward and think is appropriate, because if they saw their mama do it, then they're prone to do it. So with that being said, at the end of the day, she wants to talk about Savannah raising the kids that was placed in her care. Savannah did. Savannah did. She took care of her siblings the way she was supposed to take care of them. She financially supported them. She didn't take $1 of our assets to use to support her siblings. She did it on her own.

Yeah. And, you know, now you just made me think of something because, you know, you can't help but to have compassion for her kids.

I do because I know what my kids have gone through. Exactly. Exactly. And, you know, by the grace of God, again, by the grace of God go you and I. Don't spit up in the air for you don't know where it's going to land. At the end of the day, I know what ridicule my children have had to endure. her, I can only imagine what her daughters are having to endure.

But the difference is you had a case fabricated against you, and so your daughter had to endure people because there are people going to believe that you're guilty. For the rest of our lives, people. Exactly, exactly.

You'll have your group that will say, but you were convicted by a jury, so you're guilty. Exactly. And then you're going to have the other side that has another way of looking at it and probably a more intellectual way of looking at it, because they're following all the corruption that's going on in our judicial systems right now.

Judicial system, exactly.

So at the end of the day, I'm not going to spend the rest of my life trying to prove to you that I didn't do what I was convicted of. Absolutely. I'm not going to spend the rest of my life. I don't owe you that. And first of all, I'm not going to allow free rent in my head from somebody that I'm not even inviting out to dinner.

Yes.

If I don't know you, why am I allowing what you're saying to matter to me? I don't care.

Exactly. But unfortunately, Judge Ross doesn't feel that way because she's on your social media, Savannah's social media. I remember. And bringing it up in court, bringing it up in my court about my social media. And I think it's improper for a judge. I don't know how a judge can be fair and impartial by watching your social media. I don't know if they're – we need to research that. We need to research that because what did that have to do with your case or your wife's appeal?

Absolutely nothing. And, you know, here's the thing. We would have gone after her for that. But then we got the appeal. or not the appeal but then we got our pardon so once you had the the pardon it shut the appeal down okay so everything ends at that point because you're no longer convicted you don't have that conviction right so therefore there's nothing to appeal got so that shut the appeal down but we were coming after her for her lies and for the misconduct that she had exhibited and you know i'm so grateful for these clerks that they've exposed what they had what they've exposed. But keep in mind, during our trial, after our conviction, we were told by someone on her staff that her main focus was to make sure that if a conviction comes down, that it hits her

Wikipedia page immediately. That was her focus. Exactly. That falls right into what I was talking

about, the Robert Ford syndrome. That's right. But when you look at it, Victor, what happens when the federal government gets a conviction what's the first thing they do they put it on their web

page they walk out to the street and they do a press conference i'm glad you brought that up because we got to talk about the press keep going they walk out to the street and they do a press

conference and yet they would tell our team you know we don't want your clients talking to the press she didn't want us talking to the press but it was okay for the federal government to talk to the press absolutely to leak information to the press that was okay you know i write about there's

a chapter in my book and it's called the press the prosecutors and the robert ford syndrome and it's interesting how the press works with the prosecutors to get a conviction because if you look at the media that surrounded your case in my case it was very not one time did they cover anything questionable you know like even how your case your case reminds me so much your mind because how it started and who initiated it is very suspicious you already see what the motive is and a lot of people don't know that particular story a lot of people don't know that my case actually started because some friends of the district attorney who i had to arrest and fire and who are also running for sheriff it all started with one of their campaign workers who's a person who's been in and out of jail, who's been in a restraint chair several times. Judge Ross would not allow us to present that evidence. I wanted all of them to come to court because that way the jury would know. This started over a political campaign. And a matter of fact, they didn't even charge me with this guy. They went and found seven people, some who had been in the jail a year ago, been in a chair a year and never complained, never said anything happened to them. And all of a sudden, yeah, kind of think of it, I'm injured. Did you urinate on yourself? Yeah. No reports of any decontamination of the chair or changing uniform because it didn't happen. And then suddenly out of 630 people who have been placed in a restraint chair by my staff, only seven are injured because you only get injured if I'm the one that says this person needs to be restrained. See, those type of things should make for interesting stories. and we know they purposely didn't play that or didn't play the origin of your case because if it did it would put doubt in the mind of the jury as it should they only wanted things that would poison a jury towards you and i and a lot of people don't realize that so they take this story and they think that you're some scam artist and they think i'm torturing people in a chair and when it never happened and even judge ross at sentencing had to admit this is a novel case we Usually these cases involve assault of behavior, wrongful arrest, beatings, taisings, and she said none of that has occurred. She said, I can't even find a civil case like that. Now, these are her own words at sentencing, yet she denied the motion that the former U.S. attorney put to her saying, hey, this case should not go before a jury. So, you know, but anyway, I think you said something brilliant. I really liked it. Your family suffered a lot. And in some ways, of course, the stuff you could care less about, the people that still think that you're guilty, you could probably care about as much about them as I do.

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But I think you said something very, very profound that you were allowed to experience this so you could see what really goes on so you could do something about it you know it's interesting i write about this in in the book i was um at a bible study at forest low prison and um out of nowhere and of course i think you know there's some pretty good preachers in prison right and out of nowhere um the preacher for that day he says um mr hill i understand you lived a privileged life and everybody started laughing that was hilarious not as privileged as you though but um and um and he said you know you're here for a reason right and um i didn't respond because the only reason i knew i was there is because i was set up by judge ross in in the da and um he said you were brought here so that you could see what really goes on so you could go out and fight for us there you go so that's why it's such an honor to sit here with you you're uh you're a warrior i got to give it to you you know let me tell you what you remind me of and your family reminds me of you ever watch those those old movies as a family they're just minding their own business they're farming raising kids and then all of a sudden some folks ride in and burn the village kill people rape people and then we take them out one at a time exactly but they leave this one wounded person there and then he decides you know most people would be well let me just go on with my life but no he says he spends the rest of the movie tracking them down and um

Thank you.

I think you're my brother from another mother.

Well, I appreciate that. You know, I think that for me that the facts will speak for themselves because both prosecutors in my case are no longer with are no longer prosecutors. I'm now looking into the FBI agent, Stephen Raskowski, and his communications between Tommy Krepp and himself and some witnesses that he interviewed. um judge ross has now been proven to be a corrupt judge um if not corrupt morally bankrupt a who has lied under oath who has failed to do her job in accordance to the oath that she took um and so i look back on that victor and i think that you know it's in god's time not todd's time because i would have rather them all been taken down immediately for what they did but God has taken them out one at a time that he has and God is continuing to shed light where there was darkness that he is and you know when we got when we went through the appellate process the appellate court according to Alex Little our attorney and I haven't read it because there is a certain amount of PTSD that I believe that I have and I believe that the more that I try to delve into it and read it, it keeps bringing that stuff back to the top. So I try to focus on just what is at hand, not by going backwards. But I look at it now and I think to myself, Alex Little said that the appellate court, he had never seen an appellate court hand down a ruling like what they did that was so critical of the attorneys in our case. I'm glad you brought that up.

In my case, no one had ever seen a judge bring out a whole lot of juror twice and misread the Allen charge and read the Allen charge twice as well. Well, interestingly, they criticized her for it, but they covered up for it just like they did with the sexual expletive she had. They just said this shouldn't have happened and whatever. And she promised she's not going to do it again. Exactly. But instead of giving me another trial, they give her a pat on the wrist in that particular ruling at the 11th Circuit. Of course, again, there's a lot of incestuous relationships that we've learned about. You know, all these attorneys, they go to the same conferences. Some went to law school together. Some were in the public defender's office together. The prosecutors are just kind of like all the shenanigans you see in my case, where the judge's husband used to be a prosecutor for Tasha Mosley. And they're all friends and they're doing ex parte. So you see that type of craziness going on. But it's very interesting because they gave her a break but refused to give a new trial. So you're on to something there.

Right. When that ruling was handed down, I didn't quite understand it because I was still in prison. And I remember Alex saying, well, I can tell you this. They have given us and the appellate court has handed us down one of the greatest tools we could have ever asked for for ineffective counsel. and which leads to back what you had said earlier today that you know there has been a lawsuit now filed you know in fulton county um and in front of a federal judge um that we hope will certainly do a better job than what judge ross did but so i'm not going to talk a whole lot about it other than the fact that we tried to resolve it privately and we and we could not get there and um at the end of the day we tried to resolve it amicably we're the ones who did the time for your incompetence and you know i i was told this morning about a quote that the attorney for the law firm said we will we will defend this suit vigorously well so will we absolutely we didn't filed this lawsuit without text message communications, uh, conversations that we were able to obtain that we kept our, we kept a lot of our conversations with our attorneys. Um, so, you know, I would just say that I never knew that Chris Nelowitz had never had a criminal case in his life. He never disclosed that to us when we brought him on. Um, we never knew it. And his firm never told us that he had never had a criminal case. And then we find out about that he had done this, you know, against the Trump, against President Trump. Whatever that is, I still don't really know. I haven't read it all yet. But it had something to do with Brad Raffensburg and the recording or whatever. isn't it sad that

that people's like or dislike for Republicans, Democrats, or the president affects people going up before judges for their trial. Yes. You know, the president actually fired my attorney, and I probably should have fired him too, but keep going. That's another story.

Well, you know, I can remember that, you know, Savannah saying, because, you know, we had a settlement with a seven-figure settlement with the Georgia Department of Revenue where their insurance carrier said that they had violated our rights, illegal search and seizure, improper conduct, you know, by certain individuals within the Department of Revenue. And so we received that seven-figure settlement. And I remember my daughter telling me that Krista Nulowitz wanted her to give that to his firm. And we're sitting in prison and you failed to file proper documents or pleadings and missed the filing deadline and you want my daughter to give you millions more dollars and savannah said not happening not happening and so now you know we're going to once we get into this discovery and whatever we're going to have all of we're hiring an expert that's going to go through all the billing it's going to go through everything and and we'll take it that route um at the end of the day, I'm all about 100% transparency at this point. There's nothing that you can do to me at this point that you've not already done. Absolutely. And that is the gravest opponent that you can have. Absolutely. Someone who has walked through the fire and came out on the other side. Absolutely. The biggest fear, first of all, fear consumes every situation. And so many people cave because of the fear but when you've got somebody that faced the fear walked through the fire and brought and got their freedom back that's who you need to be worried about absolutely victor i wanted to touch on one more thing fannie willis what was your relationship with fannie willis because you were a you were the sheriff of clayton county at the time that she was elected yes and she was going hard after the police officers there yes i've only met fannie willis

one time in my life and it wasn't good when she uh got elected uh she won the primary i think she had already uh won in general as well but she hadn't taken office yet and so an officer that i knew called me up and said hey look i'm driving um the new district attorney and um i was wondering if you somewhere around she'd like to meet you or whatever i was like sure you know downtown my favorite sushi spot so i said yeah come over and i was i was actually there with some friends so So there were some very interesting witnesses to this. So she sits down, we started talking, we introduced ourselves, and I'll never forget this. I said, so tell me, what is your vision for the DA's office? So she says, well, you know, I think the first thing we need to do, we, is we need to apologize to everybody. I said, we? Apologize to who? For what? She said, we need to apologize to everybody. I said, for what? For law enforcement. I said, what do you mean for law enforcement? We need to apologize for what law enforcement has done. And I said, I'm not following you on that. I said, we have a few bad apples like every profession does, but why are we apologizing for something that we didn't do? If we find a bad cop, we handle it. I've had a few, I handled it, and I took care of them so they're not there anymore. And she was like, well, you've got to understand, it's kind of like, let's say we're in a relationship. You know, all these women have strange relationship problems. And she said, let's say you're not in a relationship and you cheat on me. She said, you're going to have to apologize for us to move further. So I said, so if I cheat on you and I apologize, we can move further? And all of a sudden, she gets mad and she jumps up and she says, you're not going to win an argument with me. You're not going to win an argument with me either. You're not going to win an argument with me either. And she leaves. And, of course, it was a little bit more in the conversation where I tried to explain to her, there hey listen when a doctor does malpractice do the doctors apologize for all the doctors across the country you know i said i don't think that makes any sense well interestingly i had a meeting with my commander and i said listen when this woman takes office unless we're chasing somebody for murder because you know my county sits right next to fulton county so there's it's constant back and forth i said unless we're pursuing someone for murder or something very similar i don't want my deputies going in there because this woman And she's going to start prosecuting cops.

Right.

And for anything she can. I've seen this before. And sure enough, every, you know, not just the situations we know about, like Young Thug, the president and stuff like that. But, I mean, there was one cop, and I feel so bad for him. He's trying to help another officer. This guy's resisting. this and the rest so he tackles the guy well when they stand the guy up when a guy fell he must have sprained his ankle or whatever so when he gets up he's hopping she indicts the cop for aggravated assault you know the one thing i want to take this time to say something about that case your case and my case the one thing i think people need to understand is with prosecutors like her tasha mosley with this judge woeful intent has gone out the door it's not even considered and you got to think did this officer have the willful intent to hurt this guy's ankle i could see if he stood on his leg and popped his ankle and says they're broken yet they failed it happened he had no intent to do that but now this guy is facing aggravated assault charge did you have a willful intent it was never proven did i have a willful intent to commit a crime or was i simply doing a job to the procedure that every jail does and we continue to see them do it on youtube today Willful intent doesn't matter to these type of folks because they're not trying to actually prosecute for crimes. They're trying to prosecute to get publicity or whatever they're trying to do or trying to control elections or whatever like that. So the willful intent is out the window. The sad part about prosecutors like her, Tasha Mosley, Judge Ross, is a dangerous situation they create, not just for cops, but for the public. Look what's happened at the Clayton County Jail. The 15 years I was sheriff, we never had a murder. We never had an escape. Eight people have been killed there. Drugs, extortion. Matter of fact, when they first indicted me, the crime rate went up to an all-time high. Now, remember, the county's been there since 1863. The highest murder rate. Basically, they sent a message to the criminals that we're going to handcuff the cops. We're not going to handcuff you. And then it creates a situation that's dangerous. officers stop being afraid to do their job and then everyone suffers because when officers are afraid to do their job they hesitate they get hurt they get killed but ultimately they quit doing their job to a full extent and then these people allowed to get free and rape rob and murder

innocent people who can't defend themselves i agree i agree would you say that But, is it fair for me to ask you, do you feel that the syndicate, and that's what I call them, the syndicate there in Fulton County, do you feel that if Judge Ross remains on the bench, that greater harm will come to unwilling citizens who have to go in front of her?

There's no doubt in my mind. It's interesting you call them a Senate. I call them a legal mafia. There's a group of people, and they conspire who they're going to indict, prosecute. But absolutely, because you've got to understand this. First of all, we haven't even uncovered how many more people have been not given a fair trial or falsely prosecuted or had ex-parte conversations with her or whatever like that. and then we're sending a message that it's okay you know it's interesting judges love to say this stuff you know you you should know better we're going to hold you to a higher standard right okay well then we're not going to hold her to a higher standard exactly well you know listen you

know what's what's good for thee is not good for me exactly and that's how she lives her life And that's what I want the country to see in this particular situation, because this is not an isolated incident. This is happening in every jurisdiction. I mean, maybe not everyone has the same sexual partner that Judge Eleanor Ross has. It can make you talk to the Lord in every tongue possible. But it may be a future for him and in another. Listen, I've already said this on this podcast. Once you get fired or removed from your duties with the APD, come to me. I want to represent you. Ten percent will get you an OnlyFans because if you are responsible for that audio that's out there, you've got a career, brother.

I think you've got a great point there. I mean, you know, we've got a sex tape scandal going on in our county. And the performance of that law enforcement official, the sheriff, one of his employees, I guess, filmed him coming in the house and the whole thing is on tape. I can tell you it's not impressive. There's no screaming, no hollering.

I don't understand all these people that want to have these sex tapes and they're working with short sticks. Stroke game is off bad. And the woman's just kind of like, okay, how much longer do we have?

Well, I can tell you this. Sheriff, there's no problem. No future. He won't be getting a call from the industry. But that guy with Judge Ross, he may

get that call. Well, I can tell you right now, there's one that was with the Department of Revenue. He ain't getting no call back either. You know, we didn't discuss that connection. either now you know josh waits was one of the people involved remember i told you in 2012 when i was running let me just put it this way okay this probably sounds familiar to some people and it may go over some people's heads i become sheriff okay i lose the election by a small margin maybe i shouldn't say this because they're probably trying to find a way to indict me for this but i actually called the board of elections office trying to check because it's something didn't seem right which really it wasn't um because all the polling showed that we were supposed to win well i come back and run and then a special purpose grand jury is put together and then suddenly they come up with the fact that oh yeah i think he stole his car five times when he was in office meaning that every time i drove past a particular line and of course it's ridiculous we won't get into that well guess who was one of the main people in that investigation josh waits Guess who? We actually found a log in Discovery with Josh Waits and 12, no, not 12, 17 deputies. Their job was to follow me every day. They came to my house, went through my trash can. They had pictures of me campaigning every day. They were told, just find something on Victor Hill. Well, we all know that Josh Waits is the same numbnut that was on your case. And he's another classic example of the Robert Ford syndrome. This guy actually had this picture up. What's that movie called? The Untouchables. And you remember when they got Al Capone, it was on taxes. It wasn't on anything else. So he had this picture up there and he thought he was going to become the next Elliot Ness by going after everybody he could for taxes. Then he joins up with one of our weirdo reporters, Mark Weewe. And Mark Weewe would come and do all these. He's a Channel 2 Action 2 reporter. And what's his real name, though? Mark Weewe. You mispronounce it. You call it Mark Winnie. It's Weewe. So anyway. So it's not Mark Winnie. As far as I know, it's Weewe. Okay. So anyway, as we get to the point, you know, they get this relationship where he's following them everywhere, doing all of these weird stories. He was the one that did all these stories with Josh. That's right. Yes, he did. And that's why I told you, and I write about it in a book, the press, the prosecutors, and the Robert Ford syndrome. The media works hand in hand and they will make those stories so that it's almost hard to get a fair trial because you've tainted the jury pool. They actually did a documentary about this on Netflix. I forgot the name of it. It's very, very interesting and how the media can put out certain things about a case and make it hard to get a person get a fair trial. Classic example what they did with you and I.

So they got them thinking you're some, you know, money launderer or whatever, and that I'm some torturer and none of it never occurred. So, you know, when you look at these characters and this guy would literally go to different businesses and just destroy people's lives, you know. Isn't he suing the attorney general now?

I heard that. Josh Waits. I heard that. Somebody told me that the other day that he's suing the Chris Carr. That's who he says. He should sue himself. Yeah, that he's suing Chris Carnile, saying that he can't get a job anymore because of the attorney general's office claiming that he's still under investigation for all this fraud and stuff that he's been accused of.

So, yeah.

Yeah. Well, on that note, Victor, I thank you very much for being here. I hope you'll come back because I want us to give periodic updates on where we stand with Judge Rawls. Absolutely. And I understand that you have agreed now to go to D.C. for this impeachment hearings. Absolutely. I'll be there. Absolutely. I look forward to seeing you there, my friend. And I look forward to seeing you there too. And I appreciate you. I appreciate you. God bless. Until next week, good luck and God bless.

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