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Learning To Let Go
Chrisley Confessions 2.0

Learning To Let Go

from Chrisley Confessions 2.0

July 1, 2026 | 00:56:09 | Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, TV & Film

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This week, Todd and Julie are diving back into a conversation that clearly struck a nerve with listeners: raising adult children and learning how to love them without losing yourself in the process. After hearing from parents across the country, they tackle real life questions about boundaries, enabling, addiction, adult kids moving back home, grandchildren, and the difficult reality that sometimes loving your children means allowing them to face the consequences of their own choices. Todd opens up about why he's changing the way he parents after everything their family has lived through, while Julie shares why adjusting to that new mindset hasn't been easy. The conversation also turns to friendships that stand the test of time, the importance of having people who truly know you, and why Todd is so passionate about launching Good Guy, a new health platform designed to give men a place to prioritize their physical and mental well being. It's an honest conversation about growth, marriage, family, and realizing that every season of life asks something different of you. Whether you're raising little kids, navigating relationships with adult children, or simply trying to protect your own peace, this episode is full of the kind of real conversations that remind you you're not the only one figuring it out. Thank you to our sponsors for supporting the show! - Fabletics: Go to https://www.fabletics.com/chrisley to get 70% to 80% OFF when you sign up as a new VIP! - Lifepro: For a limited time, our listeners can get $20 OFF the Waver Vibration Plate plus Free Shipping with code Chrisley at https://www.lifeprofitness.com . - Boll & Branch: Get 20% OFF sitewide during their Annual Summer Event when you use code CONFESSIONS at https://www.BollAndBranch.com/confessions ! - GoodGirlRX: Visit https://www.goodgirlrx.com and use code UNLOCKED15 to get 15% OFF at checkout! FOLLOW US ON SOCIALS: Todd Chrisley: Insta: ( https://www.instagram.com/toddchrisley ) Facebook: ( https://www.facebook.com/toddchrisley ) Julie Chrisley: Instagram: ( https://www.instagram.com/juliechrisley ) Facebook: ( https://www.facebook.com/JulieChrisley ) Chrisley Confessions 2.0: Instagram: ( https://www.instagram.com/chrisleyconfessions2.0 ) TikTok: ( https://www.tiktok.com/@chrisleyconfessions2.0 ) YouTube: ( https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisleyConfessions ) See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .
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You what?

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Yeah, great price. I even have seven days to love it or return it.

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So there's no...

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No, no buyer's remorse. More like buyer's rejoice?

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00:01:02 - 00:01:05 | Speaker 5:

Welcome to Chrissy Confessions 2.0. Good morning, darling.

00:01:05 - 00:01:06 | Speaker 6:

Good morning.

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How are you? I'm doing good. You came in here just blazing today, setting the alarm off in your car.

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I don't know what happened. Like, I got out.

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She doesn't know what happened, folks.

00:01:16 - 00:01:27 | Speaker 6:

No, I got out of the car. I locked the door, right? And then you were still actually recording another podcast. So I went and got back in my car, put my keys in the cup holder and sat there.

00:01:27 - 00:01:33 | Speaker 5:

you got back in the car after you had interrupted the other podcast right but i i was told by you

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to make sure that i was on time because we had to start on time and so i did just that and you

00:01:42 - 00:02:00 | Speaker 5:

were running over so if i was running over then you go outside and set the alarm but i didn't do that on purpose i don't know why i did that it was weird so anyway crazy week crazy week already so much stuff that we've got going on um what would you like to talk about today

00:02:00 - 00:02:14 | Speaker 6:

well you know we have a california governor's race that i guess spencer pratt is out of it well he was running for mayor not governor i mean mayor and not not california steve is running for

00:02:14 - 00:02:48 | Speaker 5:

governor yes the la mayor race sorry so now spencer is out of it i think yeah but you know just depends on how california is going to count their votes or if they're going not going to i was watching a thing this morning where this woman who had been voting in the last uh i think 30 years or 26 years she has voted and she's been dead for 26 years she would be 126 today and she just voted okay so that kind of gives you an idea of kind of what's going on in our country that but i've seen

00:02:48 - 00:02:55 | Speaker 6:

that but that's very interesting but just saw it um yeah you know i watch you know i watch stuff on

00:02:55 - 00:04:34 | Speaker 5:

instagram all the time right um and we have gotten such feedback on the podcast that we did about raising adult children yes all of it has been very uh favorable i think it was relatable it was very relatable that's the word that i'm looking for it was very relatable and so i've had so many messages since that last podcast that i want to go back to now okay because it's people saying can you talk about this can you talk about this one of them um in particular their son who is going to medical school um had an alcohol problem and they allowed him to come back home go into therapy got his life back together and he got a dog well she's never had a dog in her house and they have spent their these past few years of being an empty nester redoing their house you know fixing everything that kids tear up you know whatever then this guy this the son brings this dog in the house who's a puppy who's chewing up her furniture pissing everywhere and she said it's literally about to run her over the edge Todd how do I handle this well my thing is is that we're not going to trade alcohol addiction for puppy addiction and if that's what you're going to do you do that in your own apartment or your own house you're not bringing it in my house yeah so I in my opinion um the dog has to go yeah I know and I feel like it's this and you're better

00:04:34 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 6:

at this than I am. I feel like it's this constant internal push and pull, right? Because you're like, okay, they're doing great. You know, they're, they're sober. They're, you know, trying to get their life back together. So I don't want to do anything to disrupt that, you know? And I feel like sometimes I don't feel like sometimes I know that I'm guilty of this, that I let my

00:05:00 - 00:05:44 | Speaker 1:

guard down i'm like well no i don't really want a puppy in the house but he's doing so good and i don't want to cause him and i have to learn that i'm not going to cause that's right relapse that's right he's going to make that decision if he ever does that and god i hope he doesn't but if they ever do that that's not a decision we don't get to take that on right but i feel like as a parent i do because i'm like you know certain times i would be like no i'm not doing that and then you did it but then i did it because i'm like you know what if he's like whatever you know and i told you about that it's just this it's this constant struggle struggle um i think

00:05:44 - 00:06:57 | Speaker 2:

i don't think i know that where i am in my life right now is that i'm no longer willing to take on someone else's mistakes and I spent my whole life cleaning up other people's you know mistakes right and I'm not going to do that anymore and I think that in some ways you have kind of taken on the part of me that I let go yeah yeah and and it puts you and I back in kind of the same boat that we've always been in it's just a different person taking on that responsibility right and i'm not good with that i'm not good with doing that and i'm saying that to you as your husband that i'm no longer good with taking on the responsibility of our children's mistakes right our children are adults this time belongs to me and you we it doesn't change how we feel about our child right it doesn't change that we love them more than anything else in the world What does change is that for me is that I have realized that no matter how much I love you, it will never be enough to prevent you from doing what you want to do. Are you talking about your children?

00:06:57 - 00:06:59 | Speaker 1:

Yes. Not me. Not me.

00:06:59 - 00:07:20 | Speaker 2:

No, you and I are pretty much 90 percent always on the same page. Right. But I'm just saying that I'm saying this not just as a child, but as a friend or whatever. Right. you can't like someone enough to make them not do what they want to do yes people are going to do what they want to do yes they are regardless of how much you love them right so regardless of how

00:07:20 - 00:07:38 | Speaker 1:

much you know that what they are doing and where they are heading is not a good thing because either we've been there or we can just see it because we've lived so much more life exactly and it's not going to change they're still gonna bust a gut and do it exactly so you know for the lady who

00:07:38 - 00:07:49 | Speaker 2:

sent me that message the dog has to go because let's face it your son has no respect for boundaries and clearly has no respect and appreciation for the sacrifice that y'all are making

00:07:49 - 00:08:01 | Speaker 1:

to bring him back into your home i know it's hard because you know that happened to us like we took lilo and then i ended up loving lilo yes so then it was like but lilo didn't tear up anything either

00:08:01 - 00:08:04 | Speaker 2:

And she wasn't fishing all over the house because Chase had already trained her.

00:08:04 - 00:08:17 | Speaker 1:

Right. She was trained, so it was a little bit different situation. But I really hadn't had animals. We didn't have animals in our house like that. But I did love her, so I can't say it was a bad thing that I took her.

00:08:17 - 00:08:47 | Speaker 2:

No, because Lilo was really the first time I've ever seen you show affection. Shut up. That is not true. So that was a wonderful thing. That is not true. He's fine. But I think that, you know, the dog has to go. Yeah. And your son, if he's smart enough to be working on his doctorate or whatever, he's smart enough to know what he should be doing and what he shouldn't be doing. And I'm not going to suffer for a relapse that my grown child did.

00:08:48 - 00:08:52 | Speaker 1:

I don't think you're not going to suffer. I'm not going to be responsible. Well, I'm not going to be responsible for it.

00:08:52 - 00:09:39 | Speaker 2:

I may suffer for it, but I'm not going to be responsible for it. And I feel like that one of the mistakes that I made in parenting our children was always cleaning up their messes. Right. And always making sure they had no consequences for it. And not doing that anymore. And you get upset over that because there's still times when you say, well, can't you do so and so? No, I could, but I'm not going to. Right. And so let's talk about that for a minute. what is it that because you're not really on board with this new me of parenting right now you're not 100 on board and that was evident this morning at breakfast over a conversation that was going on at the counter that you were not on the same page with me um you know i think

00:09:39 - 00:10:00 | Speaker 1:

it's just so different you know i think like okay we've been rocking and going along 30 years now and now all of a sudden you're switching things up on me so i think i kind of always knew what you were going to do how you were going to respond pretty much what you were going

00:10:00 - 00:10:23 | Speaker 2:

going to say before you did it or said it right because we were just kind of we've been together a long time i knew i know you so it is a little different um just i'm just trying to navigate that new you as far as things that you are well what i would suggest is is that the new me still

00:10:23 - 00:10:29 | Speaker 3:

requires the same thing as the old me did which is us being consistent in the position that we

00:10:29 - 00:11:08 | Speaker 2:

take right i i agree but that doesn't mean i don't get to have a say that doesn't mean that if i disagree with you um and and you don't get and also i because i i got where you were going with that statement but also you all of a sudden we've been on the same page for 30 years just because you changed that page and you you flipped the script on me doesn't mean i i am able you got to give me time because that didn't mean i can just flip the script to something totally out of character for what you've done for the past 30 years well let me ask you something do you think

00:11:08 - 00:11:40 | Speaker 3:

that it's fair for because we've discussed this because i feel like for 30 years i've been taking advantage of when it comes to todd will take care of it todd will deal with the discipline todd will tell them no right todd will be the one to you know to go and make sure that the house is done or the help is hired or whatever todd todd todd todd right well that was 30 years of built of built up resentment right of me doing and you know you've always said but you know you're good at that and you always wanted to control it so i mean i just let you do that so i think that that

00:11:40 - 00:14:37 | Speaker 2:

is another thing that now now you're able you have gotten to a place in your life where you can let go because you had to for 28 months right so okay so because you yourself were able to let go of something that you the way you've been for your entire life which was to be in control and a control freak because now you're in that place to let go of it i mean you can't expect everyone to just be like okay dad's dad's all of a sudden flip the whole script on this whole our whole christly world so you i think you have to give people the opportunity to be like doesn't mean that your points aren't valid doesn't mean that you should change from what you are right now but i think it also means like just understanding that sometimes it's going to take people some time to realize okay he's running he's riding differently right he he's just he's looking at things differently he's he's operating he's moving differently not that it's a bad thing i'm not saying that at all but i think you have to understand that when people are used to a certain thing and all of a sudden we've changed it up you know don't you think it's like saying i love vanilla ice cream and i don't want anything but vanilla ice cream for 30 years and now all of a sudden don't ever bring any vanilla ice cream in this house i want chocolate i mean it's something And I mean, I know that sounds so trivial, but it's it's really the same. OK, let's face it, guys, we're all getting older and there are so many things that are thrown at us every day. Does this work? Does that work? But one thing that I was super excited to receive was the LifePro waiver vibration plate. I had been seeing the vibration plates everywhere, but I couldn't wait to try it. Actually, Todd and myself have been on this mission to get healthier and be healthier. And I really do feel like this vibration plate is helping. I have seen it online a million times. And at first I thought, OK, I don't know about this. There's just no way that standing on something actually helps recovery that much. Well, I started in the gym, but I also started on my Life Pro Waver vibration plate. And I can tell a huge difference. It also helps with so many other things like blood flow, recovery, muscle activation, lymphatic drainage, soreness, and stiffness. You spend an hour beating your body up in the gym, but most people completely ignore what happens after. Recovery is what actually determines whether you're ready to go again tomorrow. And apparently pro athletes and sports teams have been using vibration therapy for years for exactly this reason. So if you're feeling lazy, you can literally stand on it, sit on it, use it at your desk. But if you want more intensity, you can use the resistance bands, squats, calf races, and stretch on it.

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00:18:13 - 00:18:39 | Speaker 3:

New York and Virginia. For those of you that are listening and that that feel a lot of this same way that I feel about certain things don't you feel that if a person sets boundaries and says I will no longer allow you to make me feel this way. Right. That doesn't give you a grace period. That means that that person has said no more. There is no grace period on you on how you

00:18:39 - 00:19:03 | Speaker 2:

make me fail at this point that's a decision that you ultimately make for yourself because at that point you decide okay i'm this person's no longer riding with me the way that we've ridden so i either have to either say if i'm not giving grace then i gotta move in a whole other direction right like i've gotta i gotta remove myself from this situation because it's not the direction that i

00:19:03 - 00:19:51 | Speaker 3:

want to go in and i think that when you you know as adults you know and this is what i want our children to learn is that it's okay what because none of us know when that realization is going to hit right because you live your life every day but when that realization does hit that i'm no longer going to ride this way right i'm no longer going to be disrespected i'm no longer going to be taken advantage of i'm no longer longer going to be the fall guy and and you say you wake up And you're like, yeah, I'm not doing that anymore. I don't think you say, I'm not going to do that anymore, so I'm going to give all the people that have done this to me a grace period of, so I'll let them do it for a couple of more times, and then.

00:19:51 - 00:20:30 | Speaker 2:

No, no, I'm not saying do it a couple more times, but I do think you have to have open and honest conversations with people. You know, it's like your kids, right? entire existence of being a parent have said i will die for my children they are the most important things i live for my kids i've heard you say it a gazillion times that's right so you've not seen me sit you've seen me live it right so that's all your kids know so now for you to say do whatever you're going to do because i'm living my life i don't need to be here for this event i don't need to be here for this i'm going here i'm doing this i'm whatever well they don't know how to react

00:20:30 - 00:20:34 | Speaker 1:

well but here's the thing that i you know because i know exactly what you're talking about you know

00:20:34 - 00:20:41 | Speaker 2:

what i mean i'm just saying that in general i think all of them have been like wow like

00:20:41 - 00:22:19 | Speaker 1:

uh they don't know what to do well i think that you know i think that what i well i don't think I know that what I'm saying is, is that if you are adult enough to go out here and go opposite of the way that you were raised, the way you were taught, the way that I just told you yesterday not to go, and you go and do it anyway, and you mess up, that doesn't change my travel plans. That doesn't change where I am emotionally, where I am mentally. That doesn't get to change that. and until people realize our children mostly until they realize that mom and dad are really they've done their job right they have raised us right we've been touting to the world you know over i think we've had a billion streams now or two billion whatever it's this crazy number they've touted to the world that they're grown that they can do this well if we tell you you're not and you go do it then you get to clean the shit up not us right because how does someone learn the lesson unless they have to deal with the consequence of that right and for me i'm just not i'm just not doing it right i doesn't change how it does not change how i feel about our children right love them would lay down and die for any of them today but what you're not going to do is go do what you want to do every day of the week and me never get to do what i want to do

00:22:19 - 00:23:10 | Speaker 2:

right and i mean listen i it's so funny that you brought this up because we don't discuss really what we're going to talk about here we want it to be very organic right so i literally was having a conversation with someone this morning and she was talking about uh you know her grandchildren and how she has you know she helps with them and you know this is our friend in atlanta the daughter was uh doing this and doing that and then we were talking about some other people that we know and they kind of do their own thing you know they're not really gonna let allow these grandkids to really I know who we're thinking about uh interfere with their life you know so we had this conversation today you know but you know she's more I guess like me you know and I'm more like

00:23:10 - 00:23:17 | Speaker 1:

the couple that exactly have moved on and built their huge home yes so it's um yeah so it's

00:23:17 - 00:24:06 | Speaker 2:

interesting to see like difference I think there's people all across the board you know that are um so i don't know i don't know it's interesting i love to hear you know different take on it you know i feel like um you know we didn't really have that opportunity with jackson you know to to be a grandparent like that in that you know that regards as far as like you know helping on a daily basis or a weekly basis or whatever and then you know chloe's ours she's not our grandchild she's our child um so i think it's just a different perspective you know and who knows what who knows what the future holds but it's just interesting that i had this conversation and and then i was able to hear and then we talked about today so but now what is

00:24:06 - 00:24:17 | Speaker 1:

in that conversation that you had with this individual right obviously her perspective is going to be way different than mine because her whole life has been her grandchildren um

00:24:17 - 00:24:52 | Speaker 2:

you know it has and it is but it's um but i did hear her like setting some boundaries you know because you know she she's a little older and uh she was like you know no i can help out from this time to this time but i'm not gonna keep all i'm not gonna keep them all day you know that's a lot to keep them all day right so you get somebody to help during this time and this time and i'll come at like bedtime or whatever it was well here's my thing that that i that i'm

00:24:52 - 00:25:00 | Speaker 1:

witnessing throughout our social circle yeah of because everyone in our circle is really about our age right

00:25:00 - 00:25:47 | Speaker 2:

are older most of them are older um and they're having grandchildren already had grandchildren right and what's the crazy part for me is that this generation generation when i say this generation the ones that we've raised yeah is that they believe that they're going to time their pregnancies and their deliveries and how they're going to handle their children based off of what they want right based off of because my parents is going to do this yeah and my parents is going gonna be here for this right no yeah you need to be planning your when you're having your children based off of what you can do right and then if your parents want to step in and offer help then wow what a blessing that is yes but don't think that you got built-in nanny service with me

00:25:47 - 00:28:44 | Speaker 3:

right when you're gonna start shitting all these kids listen we had another child i mean we have another friend who you know i feel like we have a good group of of friends that are at all different places right they're at all different places with kids with grandkids um you know some of them you know have really good relationships and some of them have they struggle you know and i feel like it's it's all over the board and i feel like there are seasons to it you know there are seasons with your kids, there's seasons, we know there's seasons with your marriage, but I feel like there's seasons with your kids, with your grandkids, all that, where things are really good. And then when things are just not so good, you know, and I think it's learning. Okay, we're experiencing a heat wave right now in Nashville. And I think it said in my car yesterday that it was 101. So we all know what that means. It's hot all day and it's hot at night. And one thing I hate is to be hot when I'm trying to sleep. When it's summer, you just feel yuck. I mean, sheets get stuck to your legs, your hair's matted to the back of your neck. You're cranking the AC down to 65 just to feel human and arguing with Todd, keep in mind because, you know, that's what we do. Sleeping hot is miserable. You blame the thermostat, the mattress, even the person sleeping next to you. But it's none of that. It's your bedding. Wrong sheets trap heat. Bull and Branch is the cool side of the pillow, but everywhere. Bull and Branch summer bedding options are breathable, lightweight, and designed to keep you cool all night long. Their sheets are 100% organic cotton woven specifically with airflow, not just softness. Unlike synthetic cooling technology or chemically treated fabrics, the cooling is structural. It's literally how the cotton is woven. And 94% of Bull and Branch customers say their sheets get softer with every wash. And this is so true. I literally just changed out gray sheets for the summer with these new summer bedding and he is loving it. So what does sleeping in your Bull and Branch actually feel like? It feels better every single night and with every single wash. Sleep cooler this summer with Bull and Branch during their annual summer event. For a limited time, get 20% off site-wide at bullandbranch.com slash confessions with code confessions. That's bullandbranch, B-O-L-L-A-N-D, branch.com slash confessions, code confessions to take 20% off. Bullandbranch.com slash confessions, code confessions. Exclusions apply. Okay, I want to take a minute to share something really important to me. And that's Good Girl RX, a female-focused health and wellness company created by my daughter Savannah. As women, we so often put everyone else first and ignore our own health, or we're just told to push through instead of being truly listened to. What I love about Good

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so what's this other friend that you spoke to what are you saying about them well you know um

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their situation is um you know i don't think they want to be a a you know they don't want to be the nanny by any means but you know they want to have this involvement with their grandchildren um and you know and i think it's different too i think when you have sons and you have daughters I think there's a big difference in that, too, because when you have a daughter, I feel like and we don't know this yet, but, you know, in the years to come, we're going to know it, how different it is. But I think when you have daughters, you know, you have this close, closer relationship or a more open relationship where you can speak more freely, you know, like to say, OK, what are you doing? Like, this is stupid or like I'm not going to do this or I am going to do this. Whereas with sons who, you know, go get married, you have a daughter-in-law that you have to deal with. And not necessarily you're dealing with that daughter-in-law, but you are because your son is the mouthpiece. Yeah, she's in his ear. And I think that's when that's where a lot of issues come from. Right. Because you know how you raised your son. Like, OK, I raised him this way. Now you act and now you're acting like you don't even know what I'm talking about. okay well you know how i raised you so why are you stepping outside that because you got somebody else in your ear right you know and i think that was you know just something so i think i've just i don't know what it is about right now but it seems like every time i have a conversation it's about something related to these adult kids and i don't know i just feel like i know we had one

00:32:48 - 00:32:52 | Speaker 4:

whole episode on it and i feel like one whole episode is not enough it's not enough because i

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feel like so many people are dealing with it and i guess it's because we're just at that age you

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know well and you know i think that you know some people will look at it and say well that's so selfish but that person that's saying that's so selfish about how i feel right is someone who doesn't have the backbone to stand up and say i deserve to be able to have this time in my life i deserve to be able to have this five minutes or i deserve to be able to to have a good feeling

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about what i'm giving right right and not that i have to do it with our parents i mean they helped us a lot no our parents were saints like i remember when we were were early on right when um chase and savannah were just babies and lindsey and kyle were little right and when lindsey and kyle would go to their moms my mom and dad would come and get chase and savannah so we would have a weekend with no kids like they would drive literally she would take advantage they would drive from south carolina to georgia or we'd meet in commerce whatever and they would get the the babies and chase and savannah were just 14 months apart yeah which my parents were young grandparents right but not really yeah they were my parents were young grandparents your daddy's what 93 shut up think about no think about this todd when chase and savannah were born when they were born right 30 years ago my mom was 40 years old my dad was 45 right when chasing savannah they were grandparents at 40 and 45 they're younger grandparents than us than what we yeah by far than what we would be today right so they were 10 years younger than us right when when they became grandparents and they had you know to chase in savannah um so they were such a help to us you know and like they would they'd get and your mom and dad too yes they would work

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and more so like with Lindsay and Kyle and for you I know you've said it many times even before I knew you you know how they would take Lindsay and Kyle and they would do stuff and my mom and

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they would take they were saints when it came to being grandparents right and that's always been a concern for me with when in mind in your conversations right because I never saw love like that that what mom and daddy had for my children right I mean that was just a love like i'm like where is this coming from right and i've always said to you i don't know that i'm capable of loving a grandchild the way that i have loved my own child right and you and you and i've had that conversation you said todd you're gonna be fine right you're gonna be fine yeah and i hope

00:35:44 - 00:36:06 | Speaker 1:

that's that funny thing on instagram where you said that they said it was a it was a little quote and they said i don't know who this woman is because this woman that raised me is not this not this grandma that's out here doing all this stuff she's an old lady trying to get into heaven because it ain't the same one like it is not the same one but you know I just think that you're

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like I know that when Savannah has a baby Savannah has the wherewithal to do whatever she needs to do right if she wants nannies she can have nannies if she wants a night nurse she can have a night nurse um I get all that um and Savannah's not gonna and I don't listen we've not raised a child that's going to throw their children off on us um because they are very committed to that process right um i think some of them are a little more delusional about what it's going to take to be that right others um and we will be here to help in whatever ways that we can but we will not be a 24-hour nanny service we will not be a 24-hour atm right and we will not get involved with just when you're fighting with the other side of that equation right we're not getting in it right you're not bringing that shit up in our house because now that is something that we didn't

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do we we did not do that and i have told our kids and this is there's a fine line there you know if my children were in unhealthy relationships god forbid an abusive relationship i would want you to come to me but if you guys are just having a spat don't come and tell me everything and i've told i've even told our kids this about me about you with people that they've dated i'm like do not tell your dad every time y'all get into an argument because guess what he doesn't forget it that's right and then oh y'all kiss and make up and y'all are out to dinner and everything and now here we are low-key hating them well and we're having to be like you're low-key hating yeah i'm high level hate right so i say that there's a fine line there because i do i do like that our children share with us sometimes they have been known to overshare and it's because certain things i bet i i don't want to know that like i don't want to know that That is TMI, too much information.

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I told one of our children the other day, I said, I need you to be more Christ-like. Yes. I need you to be more Christ-like. I says, and don't speak a mumbling word. I need you to be more Christ-like.

00:38:16 - 00:38:44 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, we just, we want to have this open relationship with you. And of course, if there is something that is detrimental or that is like, or if we, you know, you're done. If you know you are done, then just let me know we done. Because if you let me know we done, we done. That's it. you know i'm that way all you gotta do is give me if you say i am done mama then i'm done that's it i mean i can wipe you off the face and go and we will never like never talk about you again like

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i don't even know who that is and you know and i think it's i think it's um in some ways i think it's amazing that chris jenner can do what she does i know because she literally is so good with scott and lamar you know what though i listened to um chloe's podcast so i listened

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to chloe's podcast and i listened to the podcast that she did with tristan who is you know her the father of her children and they were talking about co-parenting and she said the reason that she feels like she is able to co-parent as good as she is is because the way that her mother was she grew up her mom and dad had a great relationship of co-parenting and bruce so she's like there would be you know my mom my dad bruce all in the same room all whatever they were all on the same page or or you know in with co-parenting and she's like i believe that helped me so much as an adult be able to see that it can be done right and and yes well we see Yeah, she has a good, and it seems like she just.

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It seems, and I'm sure we only see, of course, social media, what people want us to see.

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Because listen, she's had a lot of relationships with these girls and Rob, you know, back and forth. And this person's in, this person's out, having kids with this one, you know, whatever. I don't know. I just feel like she's done a great job of that.

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She's done a great job with navigating it. and you know i remember seeing that clip where kanye was screaming at her yeah and how calm she was in trying to bring that down but i also saw the pain in her yeah i'd give anything to be able

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to have a conversation with her just to ask her all these questions like how do you do it um well i think that um i don't know i just i don't know i just feel like well we have you could probably have that conversation she has so much wisdom when it comes to the way that she handles her not that her kids have done everything perfect but I look at just the way that she conducts herself with them through business and I don't know I just find it very fascinating I love to listen to it I loved her um podcast that she Chloe did with her mom you know well you know I love Chris and they were talking about her facelift you know she was like that was literally the the

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tagline that was the the yeah she was like done um i was like oh my god i was on a panel with her years ago in miami um and she was she was great she was she was great and you know i've watched and i've learned a lot from her in so many different things and the thing that i have learned the most from her is that she, and I think that I look at her sometimes and I think about this woman has got to be a pillar of strength to deal with all the shit that she has to deal with and still maintain a business relationship with the girls, still maintain, you know, everything that she's in control of. And I just wonder sometimes, because I mean, her girls appear to be very much in love with their mother yes and are good to their mother yes um but there are moments that i think to myself wonder if she's really being heard wonder how many times she's thought would somebody please just look at me and see that i'm falling apart over here because of all the shit that i'm doing for y'all that you take for granted yeah because i have felt like that and you and i just had that conversation with our kids the other day i said have you ever taken the time to really get to know who your mom and dad are right you know who raised you right but who were we before we were parents right do you have any interest in knowing who we were before we were your parent right your mother was this young girl who had dreams who lived her life carefree and was not was not hostage to anything but but your own thoughts right you know your dad was a dreamer his whole life right and who literally i locked myself in a cage to make sure that my focus did not get deterred over where i needed to be right and do you wonder why you're the way that you are

00:43:58 - 00:45:33 | Speaker 2:

right because if you're i think so many times just people and i'm not just saying this about our kids i think it's just people in general um we get very wrapped up in our own world we become self-absorbed yes and our own just selfish what we want what makes us feel good at the moment what um and we don't really stop i feel like that with a lot of relationships really you know i feel like you know if you well do you believe i don't know like i heard gail king i'm you know obviously i when i'm cleaning when i'm in the car by myself i'm always listening to somebody's podcast because she's nosy yeah but i know i like to be informed i like to hear what other people say and gail king said something she said if you're lucky enough to have one friend one then you're lucky enough like one friend who you can truly be yourself 100 hundred and ten percent and i mean and really think about that like somebody that you can invest your time in to really know them because so many times we're friends for friends with people that we don't even really know them like we really we don't even take the time to really get to know them okay well why do they feel this way why do they react this way why whatever uh because we are we're so self-absorbed that we don't we don't take that time and you know and i feel like that

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and i agree 100 with what you just said then what gail said um i am so blessed to have that kind of friendship because you know my friendship with stephanie has never changed it's always been consistent right she and i have always been able to at our lowest be able to commiserate with each other right um and we didn't hold anything back we shared everything right and we worked we worked our way through it together right and you know a prime example was this morning um because we do message all the time um but this morning um i had sent her a message because as everyone should know by now i have good guy rx that's launching here soon and there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes for that right i'm just so excited for that because i know how good i feel right because of how i've changed my life as far as my health goes right and i'm so excited to do that for so many men in this country right that it's crazy well i think it's just so going to be so cool

00:46:32 - 00:47:18 | Speaker 2:

for them to have a place to land right a safe place a safe place to land where they can get they can be educated they can deal with professionals who you know they're not having to go out here and not know what they're getting how they're getting they have someone that can follow their journey with them and you are transparent about what you do and you know you have people all the time they're like oh my gosh you know Todd you look great what are you doing what are you doing what your skin your your body your whatever to be able to have that place I think is going to resonate because you know you're going to do it you're going to follow your protocol grace is going to follow a protocol chase is going to follow a protocol and those are

00:47:18 - 00:49:38 | Speaker 1:

three different generations right there and you know so you know good guy rx for me watching what savannah was doing for women with good girl rx was huge because i was like she has literally met she has literally found her purpose and her calling because she has a servant's heart and she's helping so many women with good, good girl RX. And I got to thinking, well, I'm doing all this stuff. So maybe I should do good guy RX. And I went to her and said, would you help me launch good guy RX? And she said, yes, dad. And I said, it needs to be the same purpose, but for men, I said, because men won't go to a doctor. They won't say something's wrong. Right. And the way that the telehealth works works now and you still have that HIPAA privacy, all of that. Right. A guy can literally pick up his phone with Good Guy Rx. He can go to his computer and he can log in and he can get an appointment with a telehealth expert and he can talk about some of the issues that he's having with aging and that this is not the same as it used to be. Maybe my sex drive is lower. Maybe I'm having trouble maintaining an erection. You don't have that problem but at some point maybe if i if that problem ever happens my weight my right you know you know with me mine has always been preventative yeah i've always since you and i've been together really since i turned 40 mine has always been preventative care and i stayed on top of that i would read every journal you know all the medical stuff you know you should start your laser at this point if you start botox at this time or if you do this that it kind of pushes that aging process back and when i came home and really got started you know the nad was huge for me right um and then i started my other peptide course right that you know yourself what that has done for me right you know when i had my physical and i did all the stuff and folks i mean i'm happy to post all of my results because i don't care um all of my blood work was exceptional right and you were like you're going to live another 50 you're going to i'm going to die way before you right she says that every time i get a good report folks well i think you have to

00:49:38 - 00:49:46 | Speaker 2:

also understand where you came from because you had inflammation um you had i was exposed to black

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mold right to lead-based paint to bad water you know right all kinds of things right and you had

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fought fibromyalgia for years and just felt bad even though on the outside you looked great.

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the inside was not that's right and so to know where i am today after coming home having all that blood work done most guys go for blood work when they're my age because they're having a problem with low low testosterone right i never had that and when my blood work came back you know it came back at like 859 or something was my testosterone my die i said well should mine be higher because i had read you know 1200 he said not at your age he said your numbers are exceptional do you understand that the bulk of my client base my patients that are coming to me that are men are in that 25 to 30 with low testosterone right folks that has to be environmental because you it's crazy we know nobody in my grade ever had that issue right um and certainly not at that age right but doing telehealth no we do not need you to have any more testosterone

00:50:57 - 00:51:11 | Speaker 2:

more testosterone and the empathy goes out the door um no we're good you haven't complained yet um but i said testosterone and empathy

00:51:11 - 00:53:21 | Speaker 1:

okay we get it we get it we get it we get it but you know i think that so many guys you know that come that that's in our group talk to me about low testosterone no no one talks to me about low testosterone not our group your group but you know what i'm saying our people that we know they're like you know what do you i don't do anything right you know i don't do anything because i have no problems with it but when i started doing the research and i started seeing the stigma right around that and how men won't talk about it yeah i thought well then let's do this for the men because when i was at camp men could not get their testosterone injections but we did give hormones to people that were going that were being transitioned right but you would not give the men their testosterone right um insane and but these men would talk about how they felt and how they just had no energy and they were very emotional and you know whatever and i want good guy rx to be that safe landing space for all men of all ages that can go that's not gonna because you and i have a very open relationship right if something was wrong with me i would say gee we got to go figure out what's going on here right you know if but some people don't some some couples don't and you know guys don't they won't talk about their emotions right this way a guy has a soft landing place to where they can talk to someone that they're not having to be ashamed of right and it's not just about low testosterone it's you know it's about making sure that you're living a healthy life right and there's these peptides today and these glps they are changing the game in the medical field right and i want to be at the i want to be at the at the very beginning of that i want to be i don't want to be on the tail end coming in right So I'm very excited about that. But, you know, I got off track there. I sent that over. So I sent this photograph because it came to me today of what's going to be on the landing page. Yeah. And and it said the strongest thing a man can do is take care of himself. So I built something to help him do that.

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I love that.

00:53:22 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 1:

Good guy. Rx. So I sent that picture to my friend, Stephanie, and she said, I so love you. and as always i am so so so proud of you i love that now that and the and the last one she said oh and by the way the pic is so good she never focused on that picture right she focused on the fact that her friend right was having another monumental moment in his life right and she was grateful and proud for that right and if you can have a friendship that allows you to have you know that allows you to have that, right. You, you were in that 1%. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't, you know, and I say to you all the time, I don't need any more people in my life. Right. And I think when you hear people say that sometimes people that hear that, they're like, how sad, how sad that he feels that way. Don't feel sad for me. Right. Feel grateful that I am at a full capacity. Right. Feel grateful that, wow, I want what he has. Right. I don't need to go through another 600 people to try it with hopes of finding my one. Right. Yeah. Stephanie has been that one for me my whole life. Right. Now, I mean, you know, there is a battle for my friendship affections here between Terrence and Stephanie. But I, you know, and I love Terrence, but Terrence and I have only been friends for like two years now three years um Stephanie has been I mean Stephanie and I have been friends from little all the way to now yeah and you just have way more history we do have way more history and I'm going to have a lot I'm going to create a lot of

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history our family is with terrence right because we all love terrence and terrence just like swooped into our lives and became that breath of fresh air right that i think we all were needing and wanting but stephanie is my consistent right she's my go-to we've raised children together we've talked about you know the the frustrations of having children yeah and the frustrations of an ex and not doing their part and so we have so much history together yeah and then you and Stephanie became good friends and that was a beautiful thing so for me I know that you suffered the loss of what you thought was a friendship yeah um that you had a childhood friend and that was not there for you when you were gone and but yet when you got home that call came in and you didn't take that call and I know how you feel about that person and that hurt me because I know how you failed because you act, you try to put on this tough aside that, you know, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. But that cuts you to the core. Yeah. Yeah. And so you don't really have that one person that is, that, that is your Stephanie. Right. You have your friends today. Yeah. You know, that you've made, that you've cultivated over the last 20 years, 25 years. Right. You know, those are your friends, but that one childhood friend. Right. That you had been there for her yeah through her divorce through adultery through everything you had been there and then when you were gone you heard nothing so I know that that hurts you so for that I'm sorry but you can't have my friend okay that's fine so just wanted you to know that's fine Stephanie's my friend that's um so with that being said I love doing this podcast with you I love spending time with you i love where we are at this place in our life right i look i feel like that every day i laugh more with you um i have i cut up more with you everything's not as stressful as it once was it's and that's a blessing the room's not yes the room's not heavy anymore um and i love that so

00:57:13 - 00:57:24 | Speaker 4:

i thank you for that yes and i will tell you everybody keeps telling me that the boys podcast with you that they are loving it so i will give you that little they are so it's the craziest

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it's it's not crazy it is it's so refreshing because it's a different approach and chase is just a rock star because chase is the funniest child that we have right and chase is great television right um grayson is a little more serious than what i'd like for him to be right And you and I talked to him about that to enjoy your life, but it is who he is. And that's who he's always been. Yes. He's a very serious person. Yes. And so the dynamics between, you know, this one over here, who's so, well, technically that didn't happen on that day. It happened on this day at this time. And I was sitting there and I was present for that moment. And then you've got this up here. Are you kidding me right now? Yeah.

00:58:13 - 00:58:20 | Speaker 4:

and then you've got me going they're both crazy you know it's it is so i heard somebody say you

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got crazier and crazier yes exactly crazy and crazy and you know but i watched chase and as much struggle as chase has had uh 99 of it was self-inflicted right um but as much as i see that I still see that magic in him right and I watch him and his timing is perfect on responses he's really great on that on two sons in me and so I'm going to give him I'm going to give him his flowers for that because as he told me on two sons in me I said I'm giving you where is my flowers where are you putting them because I don't get them so you know I love that I love that energy that he has for that. So thank you so much.

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Yes.

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I guess.

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All right, folks, until next week, good luck and God bless.

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