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My guest is Olivia Swing. I watch her YouTube channel all the time because she's so good at like investigating stuff. And I think one of my favorite episodes about Erica Kirk was actually yours. And that's why I was like, I gotta have her on my show. Olivia, thank you so much for coming. I really appreciate you being so patient with me. We had to push it twice, but you are

finally here. Thank you. We're here. We made it. Thank you so much. I can't believe you watch my videos anytime someone tells me they watch my videos I'm like who else is watching my videos

you are absolutely amazing at it I really enjoyed Erica's episode and I know that something happened after you did that I think she went on and like edited her bio or something right okay we can dive into it so first tell my audience who you are what you do then where to find you and then we'll dive into erica kirk tp usa in zionism yes um i don't have like a canned answer for who i am

but i um i worked in the entertainment industry for like eight years in the music industry in la and hated it then you know i had production skills quit that job didn't really know what to do and And in the last like two years, I've really just gotten into politics and like I just consume so much stuff. And I'm probably like all of us, you know, maybe somewhere on the spectrum. And so I just noticed patterns and I'm like, oh, this thing goes with this thing. And I like putting it together. So my YouTube channel, I think a good way to describe it is because even like the Erica Kirk episode, it wasn't like I discovered all of those things. obviously it's because I have the time to listen to everyone and then like be like okay let's put this together so someone who's over there going like you're crazy you listen to Candace Owens and I'm like no no give me 40 minutes of your time because yeah we're not crazy you know what I've

noticed with Candace lots of people are telling me that their wives are watching Candace they are watching Tucker, but wives are more into Candice. And I think I know what's going on here. Women have better intuition than men. It's just given. So I think women can catch where Candice is going. They just have intuitively, they know where this is going, who's to blame. Like it just, they have this sense, like the sixth sense, you know, and men don't. Men are more practical. and um yeah so i i think that has something to do with why women are more driven to watch candies than men but tell me about so again this is awesome that you kind of you know you've been red-pilled from entertainment you went to politics the same happened to me i was actually an actress in la and i freaking hated everything about la except for the ocean um yeah this fake which i

You can never go though, you know, right there, you never go.

Well, only once a freaking month because you never have time to do it. So you never even enjoy it. And it's so expensive and it's weird and everybody's fake. And I hated doing these parties. I'm not a party girl, but my agent was like, no, you have to go. You have to go. The real networking happens during parties. And then I would go and these absolute amoeba people like that knew nothing, didn't care about anything. the only talk that they were engaged in was about either fashion or some type of, yeah, it's just superficial shit. So I didn't enjoy it. And I was like, okay, well, I'm moving into something more serious. I want to change the world in a good way. So I ended up here doing what I do. And it seems like you had the similar journey. I enjoyed that. So tell me how you got into this tp usa stuff and erica kirk and everything well i loved charlie like charlie

was one of the people who i followed really closely like every morning i would listen to him and i don't know i just felt very connected to him and i even remember last summer i was listening to an episode because i had started i was i was late to the israel stuff um like i had been more of like a pro-Trump I would never say I was a MAGA person because I was kind of late but um I was also late to that but once I picked up on it it was so apparent to me that Charlie I was like Charlie like you're just still writing this when it's so apparent like there was even an episode and I need to go back and listen to it he did like an ad for Israel it was weird I was like and i remember just being like charlie like i was like oh like why it's hard to listen to it um and so then hearing him and like following along and hearing him question stuff and then like the second he did die i at first i think all of us were in shock i have never cried more for like a person i've known like really it hit me so hard i feel like so many people feel that way and we all feel kind of weird saying it because it's like oh who am i to say that this affected me um is this so

occupied we are this is how much the deep state is in charge in this country you know and it's very sad but yeah um so charlie dies and then you decide to kind of focus on this yeah i had

started it before but i was like most people like kind of afraid to really say what i like really felt you know but charlie was out and i was like all right let's go like i was like i'm just gonna say the things and it is what it is like I really do genuinely believe that when he died it did wake up a bunch of people it was like it like activated all of us who didn't really even know and we're like all right what are you gonna you're gonna take all of us out good luck yeah please don't but yeah we're gonna all speak up you're not gonna silence us yeah if they could they would

that's the thing if they could take everyone out these people have no god no dignity no honor no soul they are just horrible humans they they really truly are so um talk to me about you did an episode about erica kirk and much like you for the longest time i waited i tried not to say anything about erica and this is like initial like the beginning period of grief and everything and I just kept my mouth shut as long as I could and finally I was like I'm done here and then I write that famous you know post that everyone saw and I was like what the heck is going on um sorry my dog is like squeaking dude buddy let him go no let it go sorry no you're good so yeah then I write this famous post that everyone saw and it had like 10 million views and i was like holy shit and it just taught me that people you know all of all of these people are feeling the same they are just quiet and we finally started talking about it and then you did the entire episode about her so tell me what your true feelings are about erica kirk i mean um even before charlie

died yeah I when when he would you know trot her out at things I always felt like kind of I would describe it as a bit of an ick yeah I don't want to say this in a mean way like it it wasn't something just felt and I think it's what you kind of picked up on it was this thing that you're like oh I should like her I love Charlie but something feels a little off and I think to me then I just thought like the way she spoke about faith kind of was weird to me um and so I just didn't didn't think much of it and then when he died I of course was worried about Erica I did not ever think Erica and like all of us we really wanted to support her like his kids like that's what you thought of you know and so the longer it went on the more interviews we saw her do the more we watched her behavior it was like oh no that that feeling that we all felt maybe maybe not everybody i think a lot of people did it's like there was something to that and we've been so programmed to not do that you're like don't trust your intuition don't trust that like red flag that comes up

but there is something to that yeah they were like literally how dare you disagree if it was any other widow they would be the first suspect no no how dare you question erica kirk erica kirk is absolutely innocent in everything right so again maybe she is innocent the point is it's worth investigating when people act weird like it's just given that when people act like they can't wait to take over their husband's empire and jump into the game and are doing zoom calls like what was it six days after the husband dies maybe earlier and laughing talking about emojis probably a behavior that needs to be investigated even if it's not even if it has nothing to do with the you know the actual assassination or death of charlie perc it just are you okay woman like investigated this way like you yeah you know yeah yeah like something is off and we couldn't quite

figured out but like the more things came out the more things that were uncovered the more you know connections she had

It just started to feel like, okay, there's no way. The odds of her not knowing are so small at this point. Like I just, you can't convince me. I mean, I am open to being wrong always, but.

Yeah. So, yeah. And of course this machine that now are absolutely like going after Tucker, Candace and everyone else that speaks anything. So what do you need a machine? why do you need trolls what do you need paid propaganda you know Graham Allen you saw the video just admitted then oh yeah I'm a fed yeah we know we know you know so why do you need all this if you if you're true and if you're honest why the hell do you need this you don't see Tucker and Candice hiring trolls no you don't see them needing this so really entire honest institution are against these two and somehow these two are winning like please don't insult our intelligence okay no the truth is on our side and that's exactly why you need the trolls because you you don't have the facts you don't have the truth and you need to somehow save this situation and save your freaking face that's what's going on here so yeah absolutely tell me what bothers you about erica kirk more than anything because you did this um all-encompassing episode and i will play some of it here but um tell me what bothers you about her more than anything

i do think it's the weaponization of faith and like hiding behind that and the fact that it is it's all the faith stuff because i do think like candace has said it does all kind of point to that it's it's what brought her in like in my episode i highlight the connections she has and how all of them all lead back to essentially johnny moore who once you figure out who he is and then you see his connections it's this kind of they kind of basically planted a zionist circle network around charlie and and once you see it you're like okay she very clearly was part of it like she's connected to all of them before and then they just kind of place her in and they've all still been there let's watch the clip let's examine who erica kirk really is even her birthday is inconsistent. Court documents show two different birthdays, November 20th versus November 22nd, 1988. Her own parents can't even keep their story straight about when their daughter was born. And while that might seem trivial, it's part of a pattern with Erica. Take her claim about being raised by a single mom, something she repeats constantly and has made a core part of her

identity since Charlie's death. I'm not afraid of raising my children alone because I saw my mom do that. I'm not afraid of being a CEO because I saw my mom do that. She talks about watching her

mother struggle alone, how it prepared her to potentially raise their children by herself. Going as far to say in the New York Times article that it is actually the least traumatizing thing for me. But here's the problem, okay? Her father, Kent, was very much in the picture. He even moved to Arizona after the divorce. He was involved in business ventures with her mother, and Erica herself has said she has fond memories of him being a stay-at-home dad when she was four.

My dad was a stay-at-home dad for a few years, and I gotta say it was really sweet and really

special. I was four. So why the fabricated narrative about being raised by a single mother? But the lies get more interesting when you look at her education. On that same website, she lists Regis University as an NCAA women's basketball athlete, Arizona State University with a double major in political science and international relations, Liberty University with a Juris Master in American Legal Studies, and Liberty University pursuing a doctorate in biblical studies. Impressive resume, right? But here's the problem. there's no evidence she was ever actually at ASU. No sorority involvement, no campus organizations, no photos with friends, nothing. For someone who clearly values being involved and acquiring titles and awards, her complete absence from campus life is bizarre. And those majors? Political science and international relations seem out of character for someone who showed zero interest in politics and was studying business administration when she was at Regis. So why the sudden shift? What was she really doing during those supposed ASU years? Well, she was heavily involved in pageants.

winning Miss Arizona in 2011 and wearing the crown in 2012. She was also running her charity called Everyday Heroes Like You, along with the Romanian Angels Project. And the deeper you look into her charity work, the more disturbing it gets, because this is where the darker allegations about her originate. You might have seen people claiming Erica was involved in Romania and then seen that it was debunked, citing that Erica Kirk and her charity were never directly named in any Romanian articles or legal documents, thus concluding it was all a big conspiracy theory. But that is not entirely true. Because while using her Miss Arizona title to amplify her charity work, Erika partnered with the United States Marine Corps to supposedly help sustain an orphanage in Constanta, Romania. But here's the link that those debunking articles conveniently leave out, okay? Her charity specifically partnered with Colonel Otto Buscher III at the Mihail Cognosnu Air Base. Now, who is Colonel Buscher? Well, he's a man later accused of running a human ring slash brothel at the same base, specifically bringing in girls, some of them minors, to service soldiers. When these allegations surfaced in 2019 through a formal criminal complaint filed with Romania's organized crime unit, the case was quickly closed. But Erika had personally thanked Colonel Buescher for making our first Romanian Angels project such a success. The timing is crucial here. This was during the peak of Jeffrey Epstein's operations, who also had connections in Romania. Romania was actually named over 800 times in the Epstein files and as erica herself says i don't believe in coincidences me neither erica but i do think at this point they need to acknowledge all of these connections that she has you know like we need to understand this because i don't know like you have to i don't know speak on it yeah of course

I mean, you have to put it out there. And the problem with people is that, see, they don't watch Candice's episodes. They watch once in a while. People who are, like, not quite understanding what's going on. So they have all the right instincts, but they are like, well, I love Candice. I love, yeah, I understand this DPUSA deal. I understand Charlie was killed by this date. But I still can't understand her investigation. Well, because you're not watching it. And it's an everyday show. you have to you can't miss an episode or you're out of the loop like you don't you just simply don't understand it and that is the weakness of Candice's show to be honest because what she needs to do is like once she is finished with like let's say six episodes do any all encompassing all encompassing episode so update everyone on what's going on then finish another six do all encompassing episodes but I realized that it's not Candice's job really to do that Candice is doing exactly what Candice's job is it's almost like other creators job to take that and do all encompassing all encompassing episode for people to see at least that's my opinion so

yeah yeah another thing I would add to that and something that I have thought and felt um I hesitate to say it because I don't really want to like give it away but um I think that because she has been written off by so many people it's easy for them to go well she's crazy and so everybody's heard you know I mean cults you just repeat things over and over again and people believe it like Candace is crazy I've heard people in my own life go like they literally will start to go well you know Candace has kind of gone down and I'm like where did you hear this I'm like like hold on let's yeah unpack this for a second but because of that I do think it's really important for people who are not candace who are not tucker to be able to speak to the people who

won't listen to them you know it's a targeted harassment that's what's going on against candace and tucker and they're paid bots not even from this country by the way that's what pisses me off it's actually ukrainian georgian and similar absolute fuck up i i've never seen america go down this low before i've never seen american government go down this low before you're hiring foreign operatives to go against your journalists because you don't like what they say like even during kennedy with the most corrupt uh alan dallas in power you know controlling the investigation of president kennedy even he didn't do that yeah even he didn't hire foreign bots or whatever propagandists writing in the newspapers like disowning and you know it taking this you even he didn't do that and this was the cold-blooded killer i'm talking about yeah

this shit you know i guess it's maybe just because they have this is what they think is their new tool or weapon or something but it it actually just backfires so much did you watch um alex what's his name bruce witz who was just on tucker's show did you see this i didn't see the

episode what was it but but i saw he was on the show what was what was it about so he goes on

oh i have so many thoughts on this but um so i didn't even know who he was like i again like because i'm not super i haven't been in this for years i still am like meeting new people along the way and i was like who is this guy okay he's trump's strategist he's his social media strategist i'm like okay let's hear what he has to say and it is so clearly an op but there's this one part where he's like he weirdly he's he starts like kind of dragging brad parscale so he like thinks that he's going to go on to tucker he's kind of like talking out of both sides of his face this is all my opinion this is all just how i interpreted it um he says to tucker he's like you know there's foreign governments that are paying for you know influence in america there's documents showing it he's like i actually in june of last year in the middle of june last year i got a text he's like i'll read it to you that um they said that israel just got some budget for uh pro israel influencing and wanted to bring me on and he's like and i said um and i'm loosely quoting this but he said like i um it's unlikely i can like do this this one or something it was unlikely with this one it was not no and it was not not ever it was a very and he felt very proud of it and then he was like then later you find out that you know brad parscale who was one of trump's old social media people he took the deal with the clock tower x um agreement and he kind of drags him but i was like here's the thing what i was picking up on was i was like i feel like this is actually part of the op i was like i think you did take the money or something and this is this is your part like i would kind of seem like they're

all of it i would believe it yeah i mean there's like so what i've noticed is there's a ukrainian slash Georgian troll farms. Right. And this is done by intelligence, by the way, this is all military intelligence shit that's going on here. So, and they are mostly funded by this bigger, like not funded, but guided by the bigger accounts. So for example, one of them that I caught is Michael Ways from the insider. No one fucking knows who Michael Ways is, but the problem is they know the insider and these big magazines right so michael ways is associated to this other cabal from atlantic council so atlantic council is an american think tank again completely tied to military intelligence and shit but they operate things right even though it's an american think tank it is actually funded well it's moved by britain but it's funded by different organizations So it's funded by Rockefeller Fund, DOD from us, and British government grants. I mean, it's a globalist organization. But the problem is they constantly partner up with Zionists, to fresh American journalists. Yeah, and this is where all falls kind of together and comes together, where you have crazy liberal Nazi side of things, and then you have Zionists on the other side, both funded by the same institution coming together to work together against independent journalists if you're going along with it and you're benefiting in some way even if you didn't

pull the trigger or shoot the whatever you know push the button whatever happened at this point um you're involved you know like if if you're trying to cover it up i don't know and it's it's shocking and really heartbreaking to see how many people are yes and i believe they don't get

it i i don't think they do or or some of them do and they are just evil so two categories right there's only two options here olivia one is that they understand everything and they don't give an f and they are corrupt as fuck they are demons and they are absolutely happy dividing the country so that they can get some money. And number two, the useful idiots who are told, well, you got to protect the government. You got to protect the government for these evil voices like Candace Owens and Dr. Carlson.

First of all, I don't fucking have to protect the government. I have to protect America and American people. So government is not my responsibility. America is my responsibility as an American. So they are already wrong here. But there are people like that, like Graham Allen and others, right? Like they are trying to protect American government at all costs, you know, and there were always people like that. so tell me about what happened like not to change the subject but i want to move to your video when you did um this breakdown of erica kirk and then she goes ahead and delete some stuff so tell me

that story yeah okay so i used from her own website her about page and i had taken a screenshot like video screen recording of like going to it scrolling down it um and the way i had unpacked it was at the very end of her about her bio was a line i think it was like above all um she's a loving wife to charlie kirk and a mother to two children it was one sentence at the bottom and even starting it with above all the whole thing was just crazy and above it was like three paragraphs of her talking about her like entrepreneurship being an actress and whatever and traveling the world and all these things but so it was like so conflicting with the way she's trying to portray herself um and that was kind of what i highlighted there also then kind of used it as like the through line for my video because all of those things are lies in one way or another big lies small lies all kinds of lies um or inconsistencies yeah but then i got comments like it was probably like two weeks after maybe at this point i started seeing comments of people saying like you're lying she doesn't even have an about page whatever she didn't say this and i was like what like what in the world and then i went and i checked and it was gone the whole about page is gone and i was like first of all who has a who has a website a personal website without a bio right like why would you go in and remove it because what they're doing is they're

literally monitoring every single creator that's talking about tp usa that's how scared they are they are terrified and they are monitoring you me everyone else what can they catch what can they do pathetic obviously it's pathetic evil number two and third like what do you need to do that why do you need to do that if you are so honest if you are so true why do you need millions of dollars in your campaign and trolls and farms and creators to attack other creators if you're innocent truth doesn't doesn't need to be hostile truth will always find the way why do you know that because you're guilty as fuck and you know it that's what's going on here

and yeah and she added they added something on the website they added a vote page and you go to that and it says it's like vote in the name of god or something it's like blending god and signing up to vote the whole thing it just again that's what the ultimate pick is with me for her because i'm like

you feel like you're weaponizing faith yeah of course we are that's exactly what they're doing all these fake pastures olivia it's so like i want to throw up when i listen to them because they have nothing to do with God. And they are always weaponizing these Bible verses. And so shut up, shut up. We know like, you're not going to beat us with Bible verses. Okay. So like, how about show us exactly what you do to live up to that? Nothing. You do nothing. Your husband dies and you're like on a zoom call laughing with emojis. Like, yeah, very, very godly woman you are. You know, it's just crazy to these, these maniacs, like they can't even function in the society normally like yeah what was it frank turk comes out and says god says you will die or something like that what the fuck are you talking about you old what like what are you talking about like you're literally telling candace that she should die is that what you're

talking about there are people like i i won't go into it very much but my dad is a christian zionist and it is a point of contention and it you know like they the thing is is people don't want you know it's hard to admit you're wrong with things that's always hard that's like the hardest thing ever for sure and so then a lot of people will be like i'm just not even gonna look

the other stuff because i don't even want to know i'm wrong i don't even want to like what does that mean once i realize that oh my pastor is bad yeah so my whole life was a lie like it it's really hard and i do think that that's going to kind of be the next step is walking people through this sort of like it's okay to admit you're wrong it doesn't mean that all like jesus isn't bad

this is just people are some of them are evil you know these people have nothing to do with god and we know this every time devil wants to corrupt something guess where it goes it doesn't go where corruption already exists it goes to the nicest most holy place possible that's the goal like so you're always gonna find devil in like churches because that's where devil goes period that's the main job of the devil you do not go and corrupt uh Jeffrey Dahmer he's done he's going to hell you got him like you go to people in the church that's what you do something about American Christianity in this in the United States was very fake to me always and I feel like it became

a business for these people crazy I mean I keep going to like I have a video coming out I had to just like stop and be like okay let's put something out and keep going because there's just so much But, I mean, again, the connections all weirdly seem to be going back to trafficking. It also, obviously, is real. And so I grew up in America, and it was, like, around this launch of megachurches, I think, in where I grew up. Like, one of the main first megachurches actually was there. It was called Saddleback Church. Rick Warren was the pastor. He's very famous. actually just recently i heard in i forget who it was who said this but i think he was on the list of whatever that most recent like peter teal weird thing was that like event i was like really rick warren the pastor um secret society secret societies i was like oh that's weird um but my mom she got the ick from it when we were younger and she was like all the families were going she's like there's something off about this like it just doesn't feel genuine so I didn't go there and I never had like a super religious background but as a young millennial woman like I you were told Jesus is weird even though I always believed in Jesus but it was always like oh don't go to church you weirdo like ew and then I worked in the entertainment industry so it's like there's like no god there um and then um then you know as a young millennial woman you would get like thrust into manifestation i worked for a manifestation company for a while and then i even this is crazy but i had even gotten into kabbalah for a second and you start to realize so i'm like i thought i've seen it all and then it wasn't until last year i genuinely i had a whole breakdown it was the whole thing but i turned to jesus like i was like jesus it is you i i'm here use me and like that kind of led to all of this but anyway all that being said it's it's there's the zionist the christian zionist but i do think it is even bigger than that um

yes Zionism is like well it's a it's it's a tool for political advancement for certain people that's what it is it had never anything to do with real Christianity or religion people now know this they are waking up I think Americans were really like lied into this agenda of Zionist Christians we again we are Christians in you know Georgia I was born there yeah we never once mentioned zionism like when i came here i was like what are you guys talking about what is zionism like what what the fuck are we talking about in here yeah you're like well like well how do you not know i'm like i don't know because it has nothing to do with jesus and yeah it's absolutely true they managed to absolutely put america in this zionist bubble which again i believe it's not just israel it's british empire who created israel and then israel is the tool that british and producers to completely put us under this spell of theirs because that's what they are they are an empire and i'm quite sick of them like i'm up here with them um so going back to

these pastures and stuff sorry i know i'm like when um you asked me to do this i was like oh i don't know when i'm not scripted i will go tangents like oh no please please free to do

that so okay good like tell me again like with design is right so obviously

think it's fake great uh but what you find what do you find that bothered you like what did you put in your episode that really bothered you so that people can go watch it yes okay so in this next

episode hopefully it's coming out this weekend bear with me i take so long but um there's this uh documentary everyone should watch it someone posted it on x randomly i found it incredible it's called till kingdom come and it's an israeli documentary made by israelis uh that basically documents the relationship between christian zionists and israel and it follows um uh ifcj um is it the international fellowship of christians and jews yeah um and i don't even want to spoil it but it just shows how basically both sides are using each other they fundamentally disagree with each other and pretend like they don't the jewish side and the israel side is very much doing it like there's okay there's a part of the episode where yael ekstein who is the founder or she's the daughter of the founder of ifcj she goes to a gala in beverly hills for the f idf which is the friends of the israeli defense forces she's bumping elbows with miriam adelson um a sheldon adelson was still alive at the time and uh oh what's his name it was both left and right uh people there and she donates on behalf of ifcj five million dollars to the friends of the israeli defense forces then flash cut uh her next trip is she goes to kentucky goes to this small town baptist church and takes a check from a town that is one of the poorest in the nation uh she takes a 25 000 check from them but she sits through a sermon that they're talking about how jews need to go back to israel and they're going to turn to jesus and like this is the important reason they're all together then the documentarians ask her like how did you feel sitting there during that sermon and she goes you know as a jewish woman anytime i hear jesus tied in with old testament beliefs it's a trigger she said it's a trigger it's a trigger and then she goes on she goes but i stopped myself and i try to think of it from a godly way like they're christians and they believe in jesus and i'm jewish and i don't they literally hate us they hate us it just disgusts me it is disgusting like if you watch the documentary it's repulsive there's even

more like there's just and it's fascinating because the people who are talking to the israeli documentarians they're like very candid because it seemed like you know every martin

every martin said once that uh she's a journalist that covered gaza and israel for the longest time and she said israeli media is actually freer than we are here and they know exactly what's going on and the tragedies they supported so it's like they know the genocide is going on they are not only okay with it they actually cheer it and they know that all of this like brainwashing and zion is well they they are aware of everything yeah there are articles talking about it yeah they had this uh site set up where they could watch how israel bombed people and they would just cheer and watch and then for lebanon when they started bombing lebanon they put up a screen for these idiots for these criminals and they sit there with their you know popcorn and watch how they bomb people in lebanon they're psychopathic people they are they are not normal and they call others animals they they call us uh goyim and they call palestinians animals who's the animal who's the

animal yeah i i don't know there aren't many animals that even just kill and just for the fun of it or like they like enjoy it you know usually there's a purpose right right i mean i guess they do have a purpose but yeah um it's just really shocking and i think that if people who you know go to these churches who you know you just they're all brainwashed and think that they're doing the right thing.

and um they're being manipulated and to be able to admit that you know we can all be deceived we're all deceived all the time like I all the time even sometimes I'll see an AI thing and I will buy it first I'm like oh that's real and then I'm like whoa no like it's scary and we all have to the second you admit you can be deceived then it's easier to spot it honestly um but yeah so then the pastors goes back to your point of they're either evil or ignorant essentially and i think there's both you know there's both of them and i agree um the extent of the evil is disturbing um but to a certain point you can't really be ignorant like even in this next video there's a clip of there's this podcast called i think it's called live free but it's for a mega church in uh texas who also is on the far list um the show faith by works targeted churches i was like what a coincidence um but on this one particular episode they do this whole like is israel um like the chosen people or something and basically their whole argument they're trying to defend the fact that the modern state of israel is israel and the bible and we should be supporting them they even had on their own personal like theology expert and at one point he starts to offer the fact that this is a new interpretation he's like you know i do just want to say like some christians you know believe that this is just the christian belief but this is actually very new and then the host attacks him he goes oh oh am i gonna have to start calling you nick fuentes for just start like just stating a truth the fact but he just like had to try to shut it down and you know even though i think that there are probably a lot of people involved in this and there's probably a lot of people in turning point who are scared like once you get into this place where you're involved in this cult it's hard it's hard to get out and then you see charlie you're like um i don't know like do i need to say anything is it actually that bad am i wrong this feels weird but i'm gonna lose everything very shady for you in tp usa like who

do you think is like the shadiest character there's a long list right um yeah

the one who i haven't investigated very much yet is stacy sheridan i think that she is probably oh oh worse worse than we um but i do think on the surface i i've i've really struggled with andrew and like blake neff is ridiculous to me him talking to people like all he does is embarrass himself but then andrew there's like this calculated and i i did really genuinely feel listen i've had a bunch of people say this too i remember watching i think it was the um the memorial and seeing andrew and in my head just hearing judas like legitimately i remember and i was like what like it truly felt very weird and i've had other people comment like random people are like i felt judas too i felt this too and i think that there's a very this is just the energy i get i feel like there's a real sense of betrayal that happened there yeah

like i think yeah um and that just makes me sick you know it just i didn't even uh yeah no i agree with you and i had um when i started watching this crew because you know charlie was the famous one no one cared about these people before no one knew them other than people that actually interacted with them and when i started watching andrew at first i was like okay he sounds like looks like a decent guy like you know he sounded so concerned and all of that but then lie after lie weird text messages um like texting other creators about alibis like why don't you just text Candice what's up with that you were very happy to send some messages what was it like messages on Charlie being afraid or something like that so I just don't understand what the hell these guys up to I just really don't understand that yeah there's definitely things we don't know and one thing that i found really confusing to place into my mind is um that new information you know when candace remembered that tucker said erica was like anti-israel i was like i don't even know what to do with that at the moment because it doesn't strike me that she was trying to like push charlie that way to me like i don't feel like that would have been it it seems too calculated it seems like a little bit too strategic I believe

personally it's just my personal opinion that she's a psychopath I know Candice thinks that she's got this medical condition now or something like that I don't know I haven't heard that

uh yeah like uh did you listen to that I don't I don't know if I heard the medical condition

I'm gonna medical condition of dissociation oh yeah that's possible that's possible i just don't think so i think that this woman is very calculating i think she knows when she lies i think she's mad because she lies and she gets caught she's not mad because she just forgot that

she lied no no no yeah i think she's very calculating yeah yeah there was i heard sam altman again i'm talking about tucker but when he interviewed sam altman um he was like oh you know ai sometimes lies and then sam goes no no it doesn't it's not lying it's hallucinating and i was like that's kind of what it feels like with erica it kind of feels like it's like ai when it'll say something and then you're like no this actually happened and then it's like oh yeah you're right you're like what yeah i think that they will carry on with their own yes show trial and based on the way like the reaction we're getting from them with everything how they're now they're just done responding it seems which it is i'm like what do we do now you know i'll get comments they're like cool cool you just explained it all to me but like what do we do and i don't know i'm like is this what we go like do we take to the streets i'm like i don't know at a certain point what do you do because they're just kind of like yeah you got it but what are you gonna do

you fight i guess that's what you do and if if that means peaceful protests that's what you do look at albania look how awesome they are they've been out for like weeks now right yeah i guess we all just don't really go protest naturally but yeah because they've been conditioned not to we've been dumbed down so much that most americans either don't know what's going on or if they do well i've got work i've got this i've got okay that's why we live in a red race prioritize your work don't lose it and lose your country instead and that but that will work won't work for you anyway after you know so yeah it's just very sad it's that's where we are but yeah

yeah what do you think uh why don't we protest or like what what do you think is going to happen

if they oh i think that they wanted to in my opinion they wanted to kill tyler urbinson it was in my opinion it was going to be like crook's case and then something changed i think tyler just trusted they forget that he's still a mormon mormons are very close to their family most of time it's a weird closeness but i know the culture i live in utah so i think he messaged the parents when he shouldn't have and they were trying to kill him with this text messages would be there all this no questions asked no one to protect they would tell the parents oh your son died didn't shoot out whatever but i think he once he realized that he was being framed with these text messages or something i think that's when he went to the family and said hey something's up i didn't do this i don't know what's going on this way family thinks that he was framed family actually thinks that he was framed and i agree right yeah so um i think they wanted to kill him didn't work out and now they have a huge problem on their hands they have to fake everything because he's alive and he's in prison and that's why they put him on a death row this is the crazy part like yes Utah has a death row sentence but for not for killing one person the reason they put him on a death row because they want to shut him up and if that passes through they can forever shut him up and if not and something happens then they're going to put him in prison like they did to Sir Han Sir Han forever and that's it that's that's what I think is going to happen but yeah well Well, Olivia, tell my audience where they can find you. You have a great channel. You put all these stories together. I love it. So they should go and check it out where they can find you. It's just my name.

Olivia Swing, like a swing. I'm mostly active on YouTube. I don't post that much on X. I'm not very

reactive. And yeah, I would find me on YouTube. Awesome. I will put the link down below and I'll collab with you so they can see it as well. Thank you so much, Olivia. I really, really appreciate you coming. This was so interesting and we should do this again. Thank you. Absolutely.

Thank you.