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I'm Gonna Need You To Show Some Initiative
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I'm Gonna Need You To Show Some Initiative

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July 17, 2026 | 00:47:16 | Kids & Family, Comedy, Society & Culture | Explicit

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What's happening, party people in the hizzy? Hey, hey. Happy Friday. Yay, it's Friday.

00:01:22 - 00:04:19 | Speaker 3:

Fri-yay. um we had a good show on tuesday well it was good for me because i got some stuff off my chest yeah but i promised that i was going to tell you give you a little update now don't like go try to find sadie and tell her that i'm talking about her i feel like i did a patreon last time where we talked about showing initiative. Yeah. Okay. So here's just a little story. So Sadie. So there's a lot to do just to go to community college. So remember I told you the story before about how she, I, we found out we had to go in per in person to school and tell them that we couldn't seem to get her registered for school. And then, um, when the woman finally was like, okay, just show, I was like, can you just show her on your computer? And when she showed her, the woman was like, oh, you didn't apply actually. Right. I remember that you have to apply to another thing. It's, it is in Sadie's defense. It's very confusing. Yeah. She thought she applied. I thought she applied, but then she was getting no confirmation emails. Well, it turned out she hadn't applied. Okay. So now she applied, but then I'd have to be like, did you get, cause you have to wait. It's like 24 to 48 hours. Then you get a confirmation email, which means you can do the next step, which is apply to the promise program, which gets you free community college. Okay. So then I'd have to be like, so did you check your email? Do you have it? And then I told you that she was like, Nope, nothing yet. And then after it had been two weeks, I was like, really? Cause now we're going to have to go in there again. And then she was like, Oh wait, here it is. Okay. This is what I'm dealing with. Yeah. So she says to me, Hey, in order to keep going with the process of the promise program, I have to register for classes. Okay. So then I tell her, I want you to go look at all of the rate. My professor, figure out what classes you want to take. And then, you know, right. You don't have to know everything. Then it's a good idea to rate my professor. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Cause some of these professors are horrible. Yeah. Anyway. So she does that. She tells me, but of course she needs me to be sitting with her while she does it. Oh, I think I told you that she was like, Oh, I can't go. I can't get on the site from my computer. There's always like a problem. Right. So I'm like, okay, well I'm having no trouble on my computer. You can come use my computer. Okay. So then we get through. She's she, when she does stuff though, she spends a few hours, you know, so she gets, she's written down all the classes she wants to take. Okay. So then she has to do red. She has to have an appointment with a counselor. Okay. So can you make an appointment with a counselor? Yeah. So she's like, do you think

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I should do it in person? And I, I was like, knowing you, yes, I think that would be better. Cause then it's hard. Stuff is harder online. Right. So she makes it for whatever day. I'm like, great. She goes, so then she goes, can you come with me to my appointment? I was like, okay, sure. Now, do I want Sadie to be able to do stuff on her own? I do. Yeah. But real talk, do I think she's fully capable of asking the right questions? I don't think so. I think she needs prodding. And I think I had that.

00:05:00 - 00:05:11 | Speaker 1:

patreon where i was talking about like is it because you think maybe she's too shy to ask the questions maybe she like gets intimidated like you know what i mean

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i think we have um a few different things going on and i don't know which what stops her I think that she thinks that she can't do stuff. I do think she's can get very shut down. And I think she doesn't, I think it takes her brain also a little bit longer to take in information. So my brain's always working fast. I got a million questions. I got like, but she will not ask the right questions and then think she has no questions. And then later be like, Oh, I didn't ask that. Like I'll say, well, what about this? And she'll go, I don't know. Right. So I was like, okay, I'll go with you. Okay. So we had this appointment. We go in, the woman comes out, she's looks very strictly business, you know? So I go in, I say, I introduced myself. I'm like, I'm just her mom. I'm just going to be in the background. Right. A little backup. Right. So first the woman's pretty friendly about it. She's like, Oh, that's great. That's fine. Like, you know, I wish I had backup when I was having to figure these things out, you know, it's hard. So I'm like, okay, cool, cool. So I'm sitting, I'm just sitting there. And then she's talking to Sadie and she's like, okay, so what are you looking to do? Are you looking to transfer? and Sadie says, well, I'd like to have the option. Now Sadie has told me, I really don't care. I don't want to necessarily transfer, but I said, it was kind of my, I was like, oh, you don't want to rule it out though. Right. Right. In case, what if, what if you love a certain aspect? Yeah. Like let's say you love graphic design and you're like, you know what? I wanted to, I want to go to, I want to finish up at a four-year school. Maybe you'll want to go into school. Maybe by next year you're going to, you don't want to rule it out. I said, but you don't have to take all the hard classes up front. You're not, you're not trying to get into UCLA. So she's like, okay. So she's like, okay, so that's what I'm trying to do. So she had looked at all the GEs. Okay. It doesn't really matter. The point is the woman's asking her what she wants to do. She goes, well, I would like to, I think I want to have the option of transferring. So the woman goes, okay, great. So you're going to need to take math. So you're going to need, um, do you want to take, um, pre-calc pre-calculus or do you want to take like statistics? No. And in my mind, alarm bells are going off. Cause I'm like, this kid is not, first of all, Xander had a horrible time with statistics, right? He got a three on his AP test, which would be a passing grade for other schools. Chapman does not accept a three. So it was kind of whatever. Right. He had trouble with it. He thought it was really hard.

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Right. So I'm like, if Xander thought it was really hard and things come more easily to him, I'm like this poor girl starting out of the gate, she's going to be in statistics. This is a kid who was like, would probably have rather not gone to college. Right. Like she's kind of doing us all a favor by herself. She's like, I want, I want the discipline of going to school. Yeah. But she was really looking forward to taking like some fun classes. Right. So she's like, so you're going to need to take a college level English class and like, do you want statistics or do you want, you know, pre-calc? And Sadie's face just looks like what? Oh no. So then I'm like,

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okay, don't talk to him. So I was like, um, can I ask a question? And they both look at me and I

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was like, well, does she, does she have to take like the math right away? If she wants to, could she dip her toes into going to school back to being back in school? And like, could we just do the English and then like a couple of classes she wants. Right. So the, the woman goes, well, I mean, yeah, she can, but if she wants to have the option to transfer, we think it's best for kids to like get it out of the way, start doing it because especially cause it's a continuation it leaves too much of a break from doing math. Right. So I was like, okay, but, um, she wasn't need, she didn't even take any math her senior year. She's already been on a math break. I said, now I'm like starting to, now I'm in the meeting. You're like, get out of the way, Sadie. Yeah. Let me sit down. Step back. I'm like, I'm just saying not for nothing, but like, you know, she has never taken stats. So it's not like she, or pre-calc. Right.

00:10:00 - 00:11:23 | Speaker 1:

I just, I said, I worry about her. I thought she was going to be able to take some like more fun classes. So now she is giving me that side. I, not Sadie, the lady, the lady's giving me the side. I like, okay, whose meeting is this? So she looks at Sadie and she goes, okay, is that what you want to do? Right. You want to not take math? Oh my God. So Sadie's like, um, sure. That would be good. So then she's talking to Sadie about other classes and none of them sounding fun, Lynette. Right. And we'd gone to meet my friend of the, our friend's friend who was like, oh my gosh, I totally get you. Like I got your vibe, like you want to explore and here's what's great about this, but that's not great about going to CSUN. You're going to have to take all these hard classes right out of the gate. Now you can take photography. Yeah. Made it sound totally different. Right. So now she's talking to her about all these classes that do not sound fun. And I was like, I was like, um, but couldn't she take like, oh, oh, she was trying to say that for her photography class, you could take history of photography. And I look, I'm looking at Sadie's face. I'm sitting at an angle so that I'm looking at both of them. I'm looking at Sadie's face. She does not look happy, but she's not good at like advocating for herself.

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Right.

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Right. So now I'm having the parent thing battle in my mind. I'm like, do I let her try to advocate for herself? Do I just let her be steamrolled? Right. Right. Do I speak up for her? Do I, so I try to take a middle ground where I'm just prodding Sadie a little bit. I was like, Hey Sadie, um, do you have to take that class? Like, right. Is there, is there something else that sounds like more, you know, does she have, and then. What if like, instead of doing the

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possibility of transferring, like what if she puts that aside and then just takes classes and then maybe can she later down the road, like decide to transfer to like maybe a trade school with a photography school or something like that instead of a university. In fact, one of the

00:12:11 - 00:15:10 | Speaker 1:

options she wanted was like to do two years of community and then maybe go to like beauty school, like hairdresser, you know, which I am all for. Yeah. Super protected from AI. Yes, for sure. Robots are not cutting our hair yet. Yeah. You know, soon, but not this, not this year. Right. So, so I'm like, so I'm on the same page as you. I was thinking like maybe, oh, so then I say, couldn't she take some more fun classes? So now the counselor's a little bit annoyed. And she's like, um, well, it sounds like what you're suggesting is not going the transfer route. Right. And I said, well, I guess I was under the impression we were under the impression that she could still take general education GEs to set her up to transfer, but not like super hard ones. And then also take classes that she's interested in. And she's like, well, the new standards say that we, as a, if you're going to go the transfer route, we have to set you up to transfer to like a UC, which is harder things. So that's why you have to take, cause I was like, why does she even need statistics? Right. If she's going to go into it like an art, right. Cause she's an art major. Yeah. Right. She's like, well, that's just how they do it. she goes, but what yours. So I said, okay, I go, I'm, I promise you, I'm not trying to take over the meeting. And she's looking at me like, uh-huh. But, but I felt like we were under the impression that she could take at least a few classes that she enjoys and looks forward to being in school. Yes. But it seems like you're saying for her photography class, she has to be in the history of photography, which doesn't really sound like a hands-on. I thought there were some hands-on photography classes. So now she's kind of fully like, well, there are, then she, she goes, is that what you want to do? So Sadie goes, yeah. Anyway, they kind of start to work it out. So I'm like, in my mind, I was like, you gotta, you gotta stop like interfering. You gotta let her step up and like handle her own business, you know, don't do this. So I was like, Hey, I'm going to, um, I'm going to step out and I'm going to let you to like finish the meeting. Yeah. Sadie looks at me and she goes like, don't leave wide eyes, like, do not leave. And she goes, why? No, you can stay. And I was like, Oh, okay. I just thought I'd leave you to like, I feel like I'm talking too much. And Sadie was like, no, you're not. And I go, okay. Okay. I just did not say. anything after that well they needed to get on the right road first of all like they both needed to get on the right page of what she's interested in and that for her to help her and they needed

00:15:10 - 00:15:26 | Speaker 1:

that but that's where you came in like you had to get them you had to direct traffic and go like this is what she wants this is what she doesn't want this is what she's looking at okay now that lady understands and sadie's like yeah that is what i want okay now you guys go it's so hard

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though, to know if you're doing too much or if you're, you know, it, but then I don't want to have to then go do cleanup. Right. After she gets signed up for things she doesn't want. And then later, this is how my brain works. Then I'm like, then I'm going to be like, are you happy? Is this what you want? And she's going to be like, I mean, not really. And then I'm going to say, well, why didn't you speak up? And then she's going to say, cause I thought that's what I had to do. Right. And I'm going to say, but there's a lot of ways to do it.

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Yeah.

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You know, so anyway, then the woman just goes, okay, so you're going to want to just go enroll in those classes that we picked out. And Sadie goes, okay. Then cut to though, this was like a week and a half ago.

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I go, okay. So the other day she comes in my room. Now, mind you, my kids are doing nothing right now. Neither one of them have jobs. I'm not counting Elby in this. Elby basically is working full time. Sadie and Xander not working, not as far as I can tell, actively seeking employment. Not really doing a lot of chores, sleeping late every day. But then Sadie will come in my room. Hi mom. What's up? So the other day I just said, Hey, so did you ever, did you enroll, get your enrollment? Yeah. Cause you have to enroll in order to get the promise program going. Right. Okay. She goes, Oh no, not yet. She goes, I thought you were going to do it with me. Oh no. And I was just like, I, I kind of finally was like, Sadie, I cannot be like in charge of everything. I go, I I'm feeling the pressure of you and Xander. I feel like I have to be like up your asses about everything. I have to, I can't, you need to be checking your email. You need to have gone on there. I go, do you even know, did you even look into it to see if you can't do it if you need me? And she goes, no. And I was not being that nice. I was like, I need you to make some initiative, take some initiative, make an effort, go see what it's like. If it's hard, I will certainly come and help you. But you have to, you can't just wait for me because you're going to miss all the deadlines and then you're not going to be in school. Then she was like, you know, she was like, okay. Yeah. Well, she's needed that talk. But then the next time I talked

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her. She's like, I'm all enrolled. See? And I was like, wow. Oh, see, they just need that little extra talk, that little extra push, you know? And that's great. Like, did she get the classes that

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she wanted? Yeah. She's in, she's in doing like 2d design. She's doing a graphic design, a 2d design, um, uh, introductory introduction to photography and the English class. Great for

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that's great. I know that's perfect. See winning, winning, winning, winning. You did it. So yeah,

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I guess so. I'm just, Oh, it's a constant. I know it is. I'm doing too much. I'm doing too little. I'm doing too much. Step back, do more, help them out. Oh my God. They're going to miss

00:19:40 - 00:19:55 | Speaker 1:

their deadlines. I know. This is like being worse than when they were babies. I know. I know. Yeah. I mean, I don't have, like, my kids are gone. So, I mean, they're home, but they, like, take care of their own, except, you know, getting them.

00:19:55 - 00:19:57 | Speaker 2:

But Natalia still wants you to go grocery shopping.

00:19:57 - 00:22:56 | Speaker 1:

She still wants me to go get her prescription. subscriptions and her groceries and make her a dentist appointment blah blah blah yeah so yes you still gotta do that kids they are still kids you got to arrange for sonny's car yes gonna get him his car in a couple weeks that's gonna be exciting but i'm just saying it's not like they're handling everything that's true right the school stuff that's great yeah yeah but yeah i mean they just need the little like a little push but that's great that's good good for her it's like Your kids don't come to you at all. Like, uh, I, I need an apartment. I need both that the apartments. Yes. Like, so Sonny had to move out of his other apartment. So we had to look for a new apartment for him. We found the new apartment, but now we're like putting in the application, you know, blah, blah, blah, doing all that. So yes. And then her with her new place, but that was taken care of a while ago, but yeah, all the housing stuff you got to take care of. I'm going to have to fly to Oregon and get Sonny set up because I don't think this house, this apartment is furnished. So I'm going to have to get him a bed and he also has a kitchen. And so I, you know, to like check it out. That's going to be like a couple of weeks after we move into the new house. My God, that's going to be a lot. And there's going to be construction going on. And then, so I have all this other stuff going on. Got to sell the condo. Got to get like construction done at this new house. you know, like, when do we, how do I time it? Blah, blah, blah. I had the landlords come over. They were very bummed that I'm moving. They were like, you're our first, our first tenant. And like, you spoiled us cause you were so great. And they came over, they have boy, girl twins that are three. Oh, and they redid this house for them. But because their kids are so little, they're living with the in-laws to get, to have help. So they don't want to move out yet. So they were hoping I was going to stay until their kids went to kindergarten. I was like, no. So they came over and like took a tour of the house of anything that's like, needs to be patched up. And there's really nothing like the house is great and in good shape. And they were really nice and lovely. And then they were like, I said like, but I'm staying for the month of August so that I can move, take that, you know, and I really want to get Natalia, like going to Santa Barbara and getting her. I don't want her to move into the new house and then go and move her into Santa Barbara. So I want, and she's going like August 22nd. So I'm want to move like officially move like right after she moves. So I'm trying to time that, but now the tenants are like, can we have people come by looking at the house? And maybe you could leave a little earlier in August. And I was like, yeah, I was like, uh, all right, well I'll try. What did they have somebody new to come in there? No, not yet. No. They just want it empty. They want to, they want to be able to show it, I guess. And then maybe have time to fix up, you know, paint a little bit and then have people move in. And they're thinking like September's a tough time to get a rental,

00:22:56 - 00:25:15 | Speaker 1:

but like in our area, I told them, I said, you're not going to have a problem renting this house. It's going to get snatched up quick. And they're like, yeah, we're just, you were so good. Like, you know, you don't have little kids banging the walls and stuff. And I was like, yeah, well, so long. That's so interesting that they want that with twins, they want to live with in-laws. Yeah. They want the help. They need help, I guess, you know, they didn't have an Olga. I mean, couldn't they just get an Olga? No, I guess they're very happy just living. Oh yeah. Well, it's probably free. Yeah. You get the hands-on help. Yeah. Grandparents. Yeah. So, but oh my god that's a lot limit yeah so i know in my non-drinking program we say just like next indicated action like just do the next thing right try not to let your brain get like oh my god i have a hundred things that i'm gonna have to get done yeah just go okay what's next right file this paperwork what's then what's the next thing get this started then then you know what i'm saying Yes. That's what I'm trying to do. Like one room at a time, one kitchen at a time, like thinning things out, getting rid of stuff. I've been going through all these boxes in the garage that we just packed up and like in a hurry and like moved. And I was like, do I need to keep this stuff? Do I want to keep this stuff? Just continuously going through all that. So that's what I'm trying to do right now, you know? And then also think about the construction that I got to line up the AV guy, got to get the electrician guy, got to get the, you know what I mean? Like, when are they going to come kind of thing? It's just going to be tough. So it'll be fine though. It's working out. The electrician, like because of your building another room or just in general, why do you need an electrician? For the, for the bathroom. Oh, okay. Yeah. So for construction. Yeah. For the construction stuff. And then you need the guy for the TVs and the Wi-Fi and all that. So you're like, got to figure out when are we going to be actually living there? When should they come? You know, just trying to. to figure out. And then also, you know, again, with Sonny and Natalia moving in the kind of moving in the middle of it, I mean, Sonny's going later in September, so he'll be at the new house for a little while, but then, you know, so I'm trying to get her, she's going to be another

00:25:15 - 00:25:33 | Speaker 2:

big job, big cash. Does she need a lot of stuff? Like, do they, are they going to fully move back in with you when they're done with college? I don't know. I'm, but you're going to, you're, you're behaving as if they will. So they need their full rooms. Yes. I mean, they, they are

00:25:33 - 00:25:58 | Speaker 1:

going to live with me full time, you know, so, or whenever, I mean, that's going to be their home spot. So that's why I got to put in another bathroom. Yeah. So they won't, they don't have like a room at Adam's new house that I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know what's going on over there. I it's under construction as far as I know. Oh, it still is. Yeah. So that they haven't said,

00:25:58 - 00:26:03 | Speaker 2:

Hey, we're going to have our own rooms now at dad's house. No. I mean, they say like, yeah,

00:26:03 - 00:28:31 | Speaker 1:

maybe we can stay at dad's sometimes, you know, if we want to be out in that area where our friends are and we just want to spend the night out there, they'll have his house, but I don't know when it's ready or I don't know if anything a fish, I have no idea what's going on. So I just that my house is their home base. Now, are you excited a little bit? I am excited. I'm excited. It's just, I just want to get situated and get in there. You know, Suzanne's been living there now for a few months and she called me. She had a little bit of a breakdown. Oh no. Well, also the house that they bought, they bought a house. They moved in like a month ago. The, the plumbing went haywire and they had to move out into an Airbnb because they couldn't use running water. Oh no. What? She's been through a lot. And then they went to the Airbnb for like a night and electricity went out, just went out. Electricity went out like in our neighborhood, just over there, like just went out. And then they were like, what, but then they went back to their house that's under construction, but they don't have running water. So they were only there for a couple hours and then they had to go back and then the lights came back on. So then they went back. But anyway, she was like, it's just an adjustment. Cause she's like, you know, we've lived, she's lived in the Valley her whole life. And then she's lived out in the city with her boyfriend last couple of years, you know, like by the century city mall. And there's tons of things, there's restaurants and stuff. And then she's like, it's just different in Valencia. And she's like, it's just an adjustment. And she's like, so I was kind of having like this meltdown. And also they were also seeing her husband, her boyfriend's children, adult children were coming over all the time for dinners throughout the week. And now they're, they don't come because they, they're all living other places. And also they live way far away now. Right. So they only have Gracie, her daughter that's there for the summer. Yeah. So it's kind of an adjustment. it will be one i mean moving is just hard in general just being in a new you know a new city a new area new town like you have i have all my places to go you know my trader joe already know what you i mean you lived you moved into the same neighborhood basically right yeah yeah i'm in the same neighborhood yeah so i have all my stuff plus i have pasadena that's close by you know

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name if I need a mall. So I don't know. I mean, it's hard. I, that's one of the reasons why I don't want to move just because I'm like, I know what my Trader Joe's is. Like, that's why we converted the garage rather than moving. Cause I was like, we're, if we moved at that time, it would be a parallel, but we're not, we would need, we needed bedrooms. Cause remember Sadie and Xander were sharing a room still up until I was like, these kids are not starting high school. like without their own room. Right. That's crazy. So we got them their own room in middle. I mean, they were started middle school without their own bedroom. Yeah. I mean, they were fine because they'd shared a room since they were little. Yeah. I think I told you they almost didn't want to split up. They were almost a little bit bummed about it. Yeah. I was like, trust me, you're going to be happy. Right. Um, you just need your own space. Like that's crazy. Yeah. But I mean, when we were looking, we were like, okay, we could move into like deep Woodland Hills, but really we'd have to go to like West Hills and we're going to put a lot, it's going to be very expensive and it's going to be kind of a lateral move. Right. We might get one more bedroom, but we're going to be really far for that. Yeah. But converting our garage was actually relatively inexpensive and added value to our house. And I was like, the bonus is we don't have to move. Yes.

00:30:00 - 00:30:14 | Speaker 1:

Everything stays the same. I go to the same Trader Joe's. I go to my same gym. I go to- Yeah, see. I'm a creature of habit. I know. I'm going to miss all the stuff I go to, but- But you're going to be in a pretty populated area.

00:30:15 - 00:30:17 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's not like, right. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of stuff.

00:30:17 - 00:30:18 | Speaker 1:

You're not like way out there.

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No, there's, you know, they got the Trader Joe's there.

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There's a really good sushi restaurant kind of near you. Okay. I'll tell you. Okay. There's, yeah, but you're going to find your like coffee place

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and you're, and also like Dawn's lived there for so long. Like she's right there. And then like, we're all going to be close by each other. So that'll be nice. Yeah. That's why I'm doing it.

00:30:39 - 00:30:56 | Speaker 1:

Really? You're going to be so happy. You're going to just be able to like five minutes away from your friends. Yeah. No traffic. Right. Out there, except just traffic when you're trying to go anywhere. But where are you going? I know. Well, to work once a week. Yeah. It's not that far from

00:30:56 - 00:31:10 | Speaker 2:

here. Oh, yeah. That's pretty good. It's really not. Yeah. It's just the five has a lot of construction. But anyway. So Karen Reed. There's just a lot of stuff. This morning,

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00:32:13 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 2:

there. So basically, uh, Aiden Carney filed for an anti-slap law. So he's trying to get his motion. Who's that? That's Turtle Boy. Sorry. So Turtle Boy is trying to get his motion dismissed. The, the, the, um, the lawsuit of, uh, what do you call it? A witness intimidation based on the anti slap law. But the problem is he has the same judge that is also with Karen Reed. And this judge now has a bad taste in his mouth because he thinks that turtle boy leaked that I told you about this last week. Yes. Yes. And they proved it. And, and Karen Reed's lawyer went to the court and showed to the court, this is the judge was wrong, but the judge is kind of like a boomer and he's just like, okay, whatever. So it's kind of, it's not good for him. It's not good for him because he's got this, this judge that already has a bad taste in his mouth. So anyway, they went through the anti-slap motion, but I watched Melanie Little's stream and she is really good and she breaks everything down. Like, but the thing is, is like when you're, when you're watching them promote the case, they have to go through and show why they think that these, that the McAlberts are, are, you know, the real criminals in this case. So it's interesting, interesting, per se, interesting per se about all the, when they're doing this lawsuit and she's, and they're breaking it down on her stream or whatever, and they're in court, they're showing like, it really shows to me like, wow, she really did not do this. And they really went above and beyond to try and cover this up. And there's so many other now corruption cases that are coming from this Norfolk County district, uh, from all these other people that have been put in jail and now they're getting their truck there, you know, day in court. So, um, I don't know. I just, I just found it in, it's just, it's, it's ongoing. Um, we'll see if he gets the motion dismissed tomorrow. I think he's got a court date and then Karen Reed had a court date today to get her phone back because they've had her phone forever. And it's just a lot going on, but, um, uh, we'll just see. I mean, it's just Karen Reed suing. Is it going to go to trial? That's why I mean it there, they plan on taking it to trial. Yeah. I mean, they, they are not going to stop. They, they, they're suing the district. They're suing the, those, the people in the house, they're suing the cops, they're suing the DA.

00:35:00 - 00:37:59 | Speaker 1:

you know, they're like top to bottom, you know? So, but it's moving forward. It's moving forward, but they having all these like court dates, like to dismiss this or to do that. And every time they do it and Melanie little streams it, it's so interesting because per se, because, because it just, they, they have all these like other, like all these other, all this other pieces of evidence that I really didn't know, like from the trial or the way they really break it down, you know, like the, that Colin Albert really was like in the house and they tried to cover him up. The fact that here's one thing I'll just say. So Colin Albert was like 17 years old and he was, he was the one that did that video, like bang, bang, pull up fuckers. I'll fuck you up and stuff like that. Okay. So he was in the house. He already had issues with John O'Keefe before this. And I think that he popped off and he had the, the, the bruises on his wrist, the scabs on his wrist. Um, and so they tried to, they're like trying to cover it up. So his father, Chris Albert joined the selective board that the committee selective board committee so that he, and he, he got on board like after it happened so that he could be in charge of what was going on in the cops in the canton police department and their investigations oh wow like really like you know what i mean that just these kinds of things it's really really interesting i mean i can't say that anymore interesting they need to do a documentary that's what i'm saying they really do they should somebody should be following them along right now like yeah with a camera and i think like turtle boy's been saying that that he is coming out with a documentary and like an offer for a movie movie, you know, and he's got like these production companies he's talking to, but he's got to get through facing 90 years in jail. This, this, he's got to get this like dismissed for wit, for witness intimidation for these. And it was like, he, everything that they were showing on this anti-slap, he was doing like protesting. Like he was protesting outside. He had a bullhorn. He was like, you know, and he like showed up to Jennifer McCabe's soccer game and was like, why did you Google, you know? So they're like, that's witnessing. But then you're watching the video and she's like laughing. And her husband's like trying to like, you know, pick on turtle boy. Like, whoa, you're so short. How tall are you? Like, he's like, do they really seem intimidated? You know what I mean? And then he has text messages that they were like fucking with him. They, it was just, there's all these things that show like they're not, they're not intimidated. Like, yeah, that witness intimidation. Like he's saying it's freedom of speech, first amendment, you know, like Jennifer McCabe and the other, they went to the cops and was like, can we get him to shut up? And the judge was like, denied it and said, no, because it's first amendment. He can say what he wants on his

00:37:59 - 00:38:48 | Speaker 1:

show. Right. You know? So then why is this case going forward? Well, I don't know. Hopefully they're going to get it dismissed. I guess that they're going to find out this week, but you know, it is, he's being prosecuted by the same people that prosecuted Karen Reed. And I guess now the, it the district attorney is going to be done with his job and now there's going to hire they're going to like vote for somebody else to come in and they've been interviewing all these candidates and adam deitch is one of them that turtle boy is supporting and karen reed is supporting because he's like there's been like fishy shit and i want to get to the bottom of it i want to get in there and i'm going to see what's going i want to make it right with the police department you know i want to have a better reputation for them. And so we'll see. Yeah. That more stuff.

00:38:49 - 00:38:55 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. Have you been watching any TV shows that are good?

00:38:55 - 00:39:04 | Speaker 1:

So, yeah, I told you, I don't know how I found this series on, on Hulu. I think it's on, it's actually on like the ID channel or something.

00:39:04 - 00:39:12 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. Cause I couldn't find it on Hulu. I think I went on Amazon. Oh, you found it. Okay. Okay. What's it? I don't even know what it's called.

00:39:12 - 00:39:46 | Speaker 1:

Well, I'd have to look back at our text messages. Oh yeah. There was just this one episode. It was just one of these true crime shows. Like every episode is different. It's a different story. And in some of the episodes, the victim like lives and you're shocked. And, and then in some episodes, the victim is dead. And so this one episode is called fight like a mother. Yeah. And it was, it, I watched it before I went to bed and I had nightmares and I, then I text Stephanie the next day. I'm like, you got to

00:39:46 - 00:39:59 | Speaker 2:

watch this episode. It was like traumatizing. Yeah. Cause, but on Wednesday I wrote watching fight like a mother. So you'd, you told me about it before that. So now I'm just going back in our texts. Oh, okay. Found it. Okay.

00:40:00 - 00:40:17 | Speaker 1:

You said, dude, you have to watch an episode from the show on Hulu. It's called No One Can Hear You Scream. That's right. No One Can Hear You Scream. And it was episode five, Fight Like a Mother. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean, I don't know. It was this.

00:40:17 - 00:41:03 | Speaker 2:

Well, it's every young girl's worst nightmare. Yes. Yeah. And she's she was a young mom. She was a single mom. She had her son who was like, I don't know, maybe seven years old at the time. and she went out, she was very responsible. She went out one night with her, the son was at her mom's house at his grandma's. She went out to play pool with her guy friend. And it's like these guys like show up in this bar where they're playing pool and they were like, yeah, they didn't look like they were from around here. And they were like, Hey, we'll want to play pool. Like she was a very attractive young mother. And they were like, ah, let's play pool. Like kind of like creeping on her. And then, and then they were like, I guess they were like, let's go back to

00:41:03 - 00:41:20 | Speaker 1:

like his, her friend, like her friend was like, Hey, you guys want to come on over to my house and like play pool. And she was like, dude, what? Like, why are you don't invite them? And he was like, what? They seem great. Right. And then, and yeah. And then he was like, uh, I'll go get the

00:41:20 - 00:41:29 | Speaker 2:

alcohol. Her friend, let's call him Alan. I'll go get the alcohol. And he was like, and he's like, I'll just walk there. And he says to her, hey, can you give them a ride to my house?

00:41:29 - 00:41:36 | Speaker 1:

I know. I would still be pretty mad. She, she made a point later and going like, yeah, spoiler alert, spoiler alert.

00:41:36 - 00:42:25 | Speaker 2:

She served. I didn't expect it, but yeah, it was a horrific. So yes, I mean, she gets in the car with these three fucking hoodlums and shocker. They don't go to his house to hang out. They fucking take her, they take over her and they take her car and then they, they drive around and then yeah. Bad stuff happens. Bad stuff happens. And they're basically like psychopaths. Psychopaths. And then they go like, kind of like, yeah. I mean, they tried it. Like, they're like, well, we can't keep her around. We got to get rid of her. And they try to kill her. And then they go off and then they go on another killing spree, kill some other guy. Remember the guy at the junkyard? Kill him for, I don't know, because they were no reason they were trying to steal parts for money thinking she's dead and she wasn't. Then they pick up this hitchhiker just

00:42:25 - 00:42:33 | Speaker 1:

for fun. That's right. Hitchhiking. And they're like, yeah, we'll give you a ride. Yeah. And then that guy's just, but in the car, he's like, how did I get hurt? Yeah. He gets in the back of the

00:42:33 - 00:42:52 | Speaker 2:

car. There's blood all over the car. And he's like, wait, what? And they're like, yeah, we just, we had a little messy. Yeah. Last guy in the car was a little messy. We got a little messy and you know how it goes. And the hitchhiker's like, yeah, it was nervous laughter. Yeah. It

00:42:52 - 00:43:33 | Speaker 1:

was a really interesting episode. Yeah. It was good. So I went on a little binge of, I was like, I have to find something. Cause I like to listen to podcasts at the gym. I was like, I got to find something that I already know. I like that. I can listen to again that I haven't heard in a while. So I went and listened to Heaven's Gate podcast again. God, it's so good. It's one of my favorites. It's such a good podcast. It's like eight episodes or something like that. And then I like to go into my, like, you might also like this. And I found some other podcasts that I've listened to not that long ago, but I re-listened to Sympathy Pains. You listen to that one?

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news at lifelock.com. Terms apply. Phenomenal. It's so good. Oh my God. You've got to listen to Sympathy Pains. What's it about? It's about this woman who is, um, total like Munchausen's she's faking all these, like does she fakes a disability? She works at a camp with disabled people. She goes to a camp and pretends that she like can't walk. She's in a wheelchair. I saw this stuff.

00:45:00 - 00:45:06 | Speaker 2:

documentary. I saw this. Oh, it was really, it was a documentary on this woman. I'm sure it was.

00:45:06 - 00:46:00 | Speaker 1:

Oh my God. Yeah. The podcast is so good because she's kind of like a lot of, she, she scams all these different people. So each episode is they have a different person, like a different time of her life when she was completely. And her whole thing is that she's constantly pretending that she's pregnant and that then she either has a miscarriage, she pretends, or she starts having saying that she had a baby and she's sending people pictures of like babies and then saying that like the baby died. And like, she has these people that she tells them, Oh, you're the godmother of the baby. She's just takes advantage of all these people. Right. Right. It's so good. I love a good scammer. Oh yeah. And then, so then after I listened to that, I re-listened to Scamanda the podcast. I recently re-watched that on Hulu. I mean,

00:46:00 - 00:46:10 | Speaker 2:

it's pretty good. It is pretty good. Yeah. I mean, I love the last scene where the FBI shows up and surrounds our house and she's kind of just like, yeah, like very calm about it. Like

00:46:10 - 00:46:34 | Speaker 1:

knew this was going to happen. Well, the, in the podcast, the guy was saying that the police officer was saying that she was obviously been taking a lot of Xanax so that helps people be able to lie easier because they don't care. Right, right, right. Wow. So they found, and he was like, sure enough, we found all the Xanax that she was on. I mean, how the hell she pulled that off was

00:46:34 - 00:46:41 | Speaker 2:

just insane. Going to those hospitals, taking pictures, just this, how do you do that? And how

00:46:41 - 00:48:32 | Speaker 1:

sick are you? Like, what is going on in your brain? I know, but the only thing that was a little weird and kind of dumb was that she'd, whatever it was something, whatever was going on with somebody else, she'd be like, Oh yeah, I've got that too. So like her, her stepdaughter who she called her bonus daughter, right. Uh, had cancer. So then right after that, she was like, Oh my God, me too. Yeah. That's right. That's right. If somebody else had something wrong with them or whatever, she'd be like, Oh my God, same. Yeah. Same. The thing that would happen, whatever it was, like the cancer would come back in some remote area and it would have just happened to somebody else. Right. Right. Right. In their lives. Yeah. And she'd be like, that's, that's what happened to me. But you know, her blogs and stuff. Oh yeah. Yeah. But the, I'm sorry, but the husband, Cody or Corey or whatever, never went to jail for it. They never pressed charges against him. There's no way he didn't know. No way. How do you not know? And the mom, Oh, and the mom too. Her mom was like raising money, but then they realized that the mom, like somehow the mom, well, obviously never went to a treatment with her if the mom didn't know about it. Right. But the mom was always trying to raise money and didn't pay any money. Like if, cause they were like, well, if she's, oh, the mom was like going on all these expensive vacations and stuff. And they're like, why is she, Scamanda, having fundraisers? Right. Begging the church for money, but the mom's like not giving her any, but the mom's spending tens of thousands of dollars on like vacations. Didn't she say she didn't talk to her mom during that time or something? No, the mom was like all about it. Like, oh my God, my poor daughter. Do you think, so did her mom know? I think the mom was in on it too.

00:48:32 - 00:48:55 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. She was going on those vacations. Yeah. I mean, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, didn't they say that she was, Amanda was very like, when she was younger, she was always like a, you know, like a pick me try, like, you know, just wanted to be like everybody else, like, you know, kind of thing. Yeah. So weird. I know.

00:48:56 - 00:51:07 | Speaker 1:

All right. Well, so I highly recommend going back. Yeah. And re-listening to stuff. I want to go back and re-listen the Elizabeth Holmes. Is that her name? Oh yeah. The blood, bad blood. Yeah. That's a good one. Also, don't forget about Twin Flames. Oh, Twin Flames. That's a great podcast. Yes. That was so good. I mean, that's a good documentary too, but if you just want to listen to something while you're, you know. Yeah. Like I go to the gym and walk the dog, so I can't be like watching stuff. Yeah. I don't want to watch it on my phone. Right. Yeah. Anyway. All right. Well, let's do our last, um, I'm going to do it out of order. I'm going to say, um, basic Becky. No, I love basic. Go on her website, just basic Becky.com and check out all the fun designs and use the code FCOL to get you a discount. Wilma and Frida, same thing. Um, if you're in Palm Springs or Palm desert, say you're with for crying out loud, get you a latte or a mimosa family skeptical is a podcast about raising kids. kids without being dragged down by religion. So if you want to just do your own thing and you don't want any like church or whatever, it's all good. Listen to that podcast. And yeah. And of course our friend, Adam Lerner, Adam's got a car, go check them out and let's say hi to our friends. Dick is frolicking. Nikki call your girls, Elizabeth Williamson. Got a lot of kids, but Rita's rocking them and her bass yet. But Polly, we love your pancakes. Valerie, Bubba Fenwick, get set out of the park. Katerina. Check that molar. Gabby and Missy. Fighting like a mother, those two. Ishan Vajpay. Rebecca Lubin. So cute. Kelly Brandt. She's your aunt. She'll take you to Planned Parenthood. Yeah. Anyway. No explanation needed. Nope. Just pick your ass up. She'll throw on a diaper and come get your ass. That's right. Anti-hip hop class. Yeah. Alicia Escalante. To Cidio Monti. Let's see with the coughing. Stop it. Aaron Zordi, Sanchez, Sandra, Not Easy Being Green, Krista, Get Strapped, Katie's Rolling on E. Woo! Thanks, everybody. We love you guys. You're a parent now. Don't F it up.

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