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The Truth About Blake Lively
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The Truth About Blake Lively

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July 10, 2026 | 00:52:08 | Kids & Family, Comedy, Society & Culture | Explicit

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Lynette and Stef take a deep dive into the Taylor Swift wedding but more importantly, Blake Lively's absence. Stef tells us about Xander's camping trip, they talk about a great Hulu doc plus Lynette gives us the update on the Karen Read dirty cop deposition. Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to hero.co and use code FCOL at checkout Treat yourself to the most advanced bras and shapewear on the market. Use our exclusive link to save 20% off Honeylove at honeylove.com/FCOL For a limited time only, our listeners get 20% off your entire order when you use code FCOL at laundrysauce.com.
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00:00:58 - 00:01:15 | Speaker 1:

hey everybody welcome to for crying out loud what's happening it's friday oh we forgot to talk about taylor swift's stupid dumb wedding who cares about it oh yeah do we care we don't

00:01:15 - 00:01:40 | Speaker 2:

care except that i think it's very interesting that ryan reynolds and blake lively were not invited that's the best part that's the only thing i care about so cecily and i covered this over on Rose Pricks. But, um, but to me, that was the best, that was because building up to this, I feel like Taylor was being very cryptic about whether or not she and Blake are on good terms.

00:01:41 - 00:02:44 | Speaker 1:

Right. That's true. Yeah. Right. Didn't she make it seem like they're fine? Yeah. There was rumors like that. They were like talking behind the scenes and trying to make up, you know, blah, blah, blah. I don't know how you come back from that though. All this shit that Blake put her through with those text messages also threatening to release 10 years of text messages. If you don't like stand by her side, do you remember that? Yeah. But was that proven that she said, I'm going to release these. That was Taylor Swift's father that came for and said that they, that that was, yeah, they proved it from the, from everything I've read that it was proven. Yeah. I mean, that's like trombolafotch on the part of Blake Lively. Right. Like if you got a lot of nerve, bitch, like that, that was crazy. So yeah, I don't, I don't think there was good, there's ever going to, and also she's supposed to be like the, the godmother of Blake's children and to still not like it. So that means that they are not speaking. They're not talking.

00:02:44 - 00:03:05 | Speaker 2:

They're done. No. Cause you don't really come back from, you weren't invited to my wedding. right that's a tough one right yeah that's a pretty big fight that you know what I mean that you can't just be like okay fine we're she's not my favorite person but I'm inviting her to the wedding right once you do that you're like I don't know how you ever no I don't know how you would

00:03:05 - 00:03:42 | Speaker 1:

come back from that and also there was like the rumors early on during the whole Baldoni thing that, uh, Kelsey, what's his name? Her husband, Travis, Travis Kelsey unfollowed, uh, uh, Ryan Reynolds on Instagram. Stop following him. I think that he probably figured out that Ryan Reynolds is pretty big douchebag, you know, like kind of probably this fake guy that they went out to dinner with and kind of like, you know, he just like, if once you get his number and you see threw him like you go like oh this guy's a fucking douche like he's just performative you know and

00:03:42 - 00:04:18 | Speaker 2:

he probably didn't like that so on top of everything else I just don't know how Blake Lively I mean the whole thing feels very like victimizing herself in the first place but then to drag your friend in it and be like you're gonna come to my house and gang up on this guy with me But the only thing that's confusing is that it did seem like Taylor was on her side the whole time. And based on some of her text messages, seemed like Taylor was like, yeah, fuck Justin Baldoni.

00:04:19 - 00:06:34 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, called him a clown. Yeah. All this shit. So what changed? Well, I think that I think what happened was back then, I think Taylor Swift was trying to be a good friend to Blake and believing everything that Blake was saying. I don't even know, there was no proof in any of the text messages that he sexually harassed her. Like there was nothing like where Taylor was like, I'm so sorry. He made you feel uncomfortable. It was all like, this guy's a clown. He's a fumbling idiot. He doesn't know what he's doing. And tell him you like my cut of the movie better than his cut. Right. That's what it was about. So Taylor's like, hell yeah. Okay. Ride or die. But then what happened was the whole weapon fucking Baldoni. attorney's lawyer, um, dropped receipts, put out that whole, all that website of like, here's all the receipts. Here's everything in context. Here's what Blake Lively is accusing. And here's what Blake Lively did videos, all this stuff, put it out there. And I think Taylor Swift was like, what the fuck, what the fuck? Like I was lied to kind of thing. I think she saw otherwise Taylor Swift has stuck. It's been proven. She's stuck up for like Kesha or some other like friends of hers that were like sexually harassed and stuff like she stood by those friends. Blake Lively was really like uncomfortable and sexually harassed on set by Baldoni. Taylor Swift would have stuck by her side. And I think that's what she was thinking she was doing, but not with the sexual assault with the other shit. So I think once all the receipts came out, she was like, bitch, you fucking lied to me. Like, this isn't, this is not what you were telling me is the truth. And now you made me look like a mean girl, which she did. She looked like a mean girl in those texts. So she was like, now look, you made me look like an asshole. Fuck you. You're going to try and damage my reputation. And then come after me and say, I'm going to release 10. If you don't stand by me, I'm going to release 10 years of text messages. Her father was Taylor Swift was the one that came out and said that. So, you know, and then she fucking failed in the end anyway. She didn't get shit. And now she's suing for $8 million of legal fees, which is insane. So that's where she's at now. She's still like doubling down. So yeah, she's not invited to the wedding.

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Boo hoo. Too bad. So sad. I know. I know what you deserve. But remember when Taylor Swift came her last album, she had that song about, I like my friends canceled. Yes. Everybody thought that was kind of a veiled homage to Blake Lively. Like I'm on her side, like go ahead and try to cancel her. But like, I like that. I like my, you know? Right. No, I don't think if you're a normal person

00:07:03 - 00:07:47 | Speaker 1:

looking at these receipts, looking at the whole thing in context and you're Taylor Swift, you're like, I feel like I was duped. And I was like taken advantage of by like having me come there to the penthouse and saying, I like the, I like her cut better. Like, I feel like she was like, she even like towards the end, there was a text message that said, you feel, I feel like, remember that there was a message that Taylor Swift sent to Blake Lively. Like, I feel like you're talking to me, like, like I'm a like in corporate or whatever. Yeah. And then Blake right back and like, dear customers, you know, thank you for your complaint. Like fuck off. So I think Taylor Swift was like, she saw, she saw the reality of what was going on and she distanced

00:07:47 - 00:07:57 | Speaker 2:

to herself. But it did seem like from those texts that they were cool. Cause Taylor kept being like, no, no, no, we're good. We're good. I've just been really busy or whatever.

00:07:58 - 00:08:37 | Speaker 1:

I feel like she was getting sick and tired of hearing about Blake, about Blaudoni and not like paying attention. They're like nurturing their friendship because Blake's always what about, about it's everything about her. So she was getting tired of it, but that was before anything came out. So she didn't know at that time of those text messages. So I think once everything dropped and she saw what was going on, she was like, fuck this shit. I'm out. I don't want anything. So she was so quiet about it for a long, people are like, you know, is she going to invite her to the Superbowl or not? And then she didn't invite her to the Superbowl. So it's like, okay, she's like saying, I don't want any part of this. That's what I think happened.

00:08:37 - 00:09:17 | Speaker 2:

imagine you're one of your best friends is taylor swift and then they're not your best friend i mean has there been a bigger celebrity than taylor swift she's i mean it's a movement it is a move i mean she helps the economy and shit when she comes to town i know it's gotta feel so shitty to be like oh my god taylor swift fucking hates me didn't invite her to the wedding everybody knows that we were besties. Right. And now literally Taylor Swift did not invite. I mean, imagine the world knowing, like imagine people in other countries knowing like, oh, Blake Lively was

00:09:17 - 00:09:46 | Speaker 1:

not invited to the wedding. I know. And it's like, there, there, you know, it is a headline that she got mad. She got married at Madison Square Garden and everything. But all the headlines are a picture of like Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds at some like vineyard somewhere 500 miles away from the wedding watching their like daughter do horseback riding. Right. Right. And her hair's like in a ponytail. Like that's the, that's the photo I see. Like, like Taylor Swift got married, but then there's a photo of those two, like looking like bums, like, ha ha, you weren't

00:09:46 - 00:10:46 | Speaker 2:

invited too bad. So sad. No, it's like, I wish I knew the inside because looking at it from the outside, of course, it's like to, to me and to you, Blake Lively sucks. like that's not a friend who's going like, well, Taylor Swift was at my house. So she knows the story and she's going to testify. On the other hand, Taylor Swift had to know who Blake Lively was. Blake Lively didn't suddenly become this person. According to a lot of things I've read, Blake Lively, this is Blake Lively's MO is to try to get herself, manipulate things so that she gets a credit for writing a movie. Right. Right. Which is what she did. She tried to, she, and she, I think preyed upon Justin Baldoni to be like, this fucking guy has no experience. I'm going to white, I'm going to walk in here. I'm going to rewrite this movie. I'm going to be the hero. Right. And then ain't nobody liked the rewrite she did. Right. And she would have never done

00:10:46 - 00:12:42 | Speaker 1:

that on the set of, you know, a simple favor to that director or to the Woody Allen. She was never do that to that. Like she, she finally got a director of a franchise that he got under his belt and was like, holy shit, this guy's a fucking, you know, a nobody. And I have my dragons, my husband, my best friend, and I'm going to take this fucking the rights away from this guy. And I'm going to ruin his life. And I'm going to tell everybody to unfollow him. And I'm going to put him in the basement of the premiere of the movie. Like, you know, and then on top of it, act like a dumb ass, like read the room when she was doing interviews for the movie about, it's a sensitive subject, the movie. And she's just like, you know, how's your baby bump? You know, bring your, bring your florals, you know, with about that one interview where the guy was like, you know, what, what do you want to say? What, what if some fan comes up to you and says, I was in a, you know, uh, uh, in a, in a situation, or I was in a relationship with sexual, uh with you know domestic domestic violence and and she's like well i don't know what do you should i do should i give him my like my social security number should i give him my my three life 360s so like remember that yeah the fuck she's gross so she on top of it came out to promote the movie and she's promoting her betty booze and her hair brand and not like you know and her jeans and like just joking around about it and stuff and acting like a bitch in like in these junkets and then says Baldoni's the one that's like smearing her. Like, really? Like you smeared yourself, basically. And by the way, Baldoni is not going to smear Blake Lively if you would act normal and you would have been, he's not going to smear you. He's going to want you because this is, he just did this movie, made a ton of money. He's got this, you know, rights to the sequel. Why is he going to like fucking smear the actress of his movie, Blake Lively? Like, that doesn't make any sense.

00:12:42 - 00:13:14 | Speaker 2:

Which is why all of those sexual assault allegations are making her feel uncomfortable. He was bending over backwards to make her feel comfortable to just, you know, you could see it in all their messages. Like when she was like, I feel really fat or whatever. He was like, what? No, you are so sexy. You look great. Hey, when, but he was like, but I think there was something where he was going to have to pick her up or something. and he was just, I don't know if he needed to know what she weighed. Yeah. He wanted to know

00:13:14 - 00:14:03 | Speaker 1:

because her trainer, because his trainer, they were working with him on being able to like, there was a scene where he said she had, he was going to have to pick her up and he had some slip discs. Like he had some serious back issues. So the trainer wanted to find out how much Blake weighs so that they can whatever, figure it out. And that was that, you know, not like fat. She wasn't fat shaming her. You know, it was just, it was just ridiculous and appalling. And Ryan Reynolds, like emails were just the worst too. So he looks like a jackass, but here's the thing. Like, is she going to have a career? He, I think is going to be fine because people follow Marvel or don't give a shit about Baldoni and stuff. Like he's going to be, I think fine, but with her, I don't know. Like who wants to work with that? I don't think any directors

00:14:03 - 00:14:06 | Speaker 2:

that aren't really strong and experienced are going to want to deal with her.

00:14:06 - 00:14:17 | Speaker 1:

No, no, but probably like older directors that are, that don't give a shit about that. Maybe like, I don't know. Uh, I don't know.

00:14:17 - 00:14:33 | Speaker 2:

Maybe has she been in anything since? No, no. Yeah. Not that I know of. I mean, it's just like, I remember when I first heard about it and I was totally on her side. And then it's like, you start learning more and more and more. And you're like, what?

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Yeah.

00:14:34 - 00:14:51 | Speaker 2:

Remember when that, the footage came out of the, it was like, she accused him of trying to kiss her and doing all this stuff. And then the dailies, yeah, the dancing. And then those dailies came out and I watched all of it on YouTube and I was like, wow, she sucks. Right. He did nothing wrong. Yeah.

00:14:51 - 00:14:59 | Speaker 1:

She said that he, you know, was smelling her and said, you smell so good. That's literally what she said in her deposition. Yeah.

00:15:00 - 00:15:10 | Speaker 2:

you go and watch the video and he's like, like on her neck. And she's like, you probably can smell my spray tan. And he was like, Oh, it's fine. Smells, it smells good. Like, yeah. Okay. Bitch.

00:15:10 - 00:16:05 | Speaker 3:

And she had said, I think this scene would be better. Like if they don't kiss. Right. And he's like, okay. He didn't say like, well, let's just try one where we make out. Right. He was like, okay. She was like, yeah, it'll be better. It'll be better. Just like, we'll get close to it. so he's trying to play it he did not try to kiss her you're watching the dailies uncut yes and he's just like like you said kind of like smelling her and getting close and like but because they're supposed to be playing people who are about to fuck exactly who are in love like falling in love with each other so what is he not supposed to like be close to you like right i know what are you doing so he's trying to like kind of snuggle on her and she's sort of backing away a little bit, but he's never pushes her. And then at the end of the scene, he goes, they go cut. He says cut. Cause he's the director. And he's like, okay, we're good. I think we got it. Right.

00:16:06 - 00:16:45 | Speaker 2:

Walks away. And that's why I think the judge took out when her case was going to go to trial, took out all the sexual harassment stuff because the judge, I remember him saying something like, listen, this is, if, if this was like in a corporate office, you'd have a different case, but we're doing, you're doing a movie about, you know, you guys are in love and there's sex scenes and it's sexy and saucy. It's a movie. Like what, what is he, is he, that's what he's doing. Like he's doing his job by like going up and down your neck and stuff like that. Right. So, you know, if you're going to feel uncomfortable, maybe you're in the wrong business. That's why he got it. Yeah.

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00:19:56 - 00:22:55 | Speaker 2:

okay so where i lost you and where we were updating people on facebook first of all everybody needs to calm down a little bit like for everybody was coming for us with the ice cream remember that oh yeah apparently and then i got i got it into my head you guys got it into my head blame yourselves for this of going like maybe that says that just doesn't make sense maybe they meant ice no apparently they did mean ice cream and xander was like it lasted like a few days in the cooler it did and He says, the only thing is that's weird is that they even asked me to bring ice cream because they brought so much ice cream. Oh my God. So here's, wow. Here's how it went down. Yeah. I found this out later. Oh, and then also somebody that I really like, I think it was Catherine Keys was like, did you, do you have the license number of the car that they're driving? I was like, oh no. New fear level unlocked. Thank you. Thank you for that. No, I did no due diligence. I'm lucky that I got the mom's phone number, which I have not used. Right. So I want to know why they were at the credit union. I don't think they were. I think it just, maybe they parked, maybe they got what they peed or something. I don't know. But then they lost, they lost internet shortly after that. Okay. So I was kept checking back and I didn't realize that it was just stuck. Right. Yeah. That's what happens. Yeah. Yeah. That's what happened with Sunny. So they got there. Everything's fine. They, um, the, they lost internet early. So I didn't hear from him for a few days. And that was a little bit nerve wracking because he left on a Monday. Oh, I know Thursday. And I updated this on Facebook Thursday. All of a sudden he popped up, he, he texted us. Okay. And he was like, Hey, I just briefly have like internet. Um, and they were at Big Sur state park, like Pfeiffer state park. So I was so excited. And I was like, Oh my God, are you having fun? You know? And he's like, it's great. We're having so much fun. Uh, we just drove from our campsite to this, we're doing this hike. So, so we couldn't really talk long, but I was like, Oh my God, are you like, tell me everything. And he really couldn't talk that much, but he was like, I'm having such a good time. I've taken, I'm taking lots of pictures. Everything's good. That's good. Good. So I was like, okay, then Friday, maybe Saturday night, we, we realized when's he due to come home? He's home. He came home. Yeah. But when was he due? Oh, so I thought he was coming home on Monday. So the whole thing started where he was like, I really want to go on this camping trip, but we wouldn't come. We'd, I'd miss your birthday because we'd come home the next day. And I was like, that's fine. We'll go out like the next night. Right. He was actually always coming home Sunday, but just like late in

00:22:55 - 00:23:12 | Speaker 2:

the day. Okay. So, uh, Saturday we realized that he had a satellite. So even though it said, so it was the same thing as sunny. Yeah. So even though it said that his phone was off or he was out of range, right. I was able to text and it just said it was hitting us. And it's like using

00:23:12 - 00:23:18 | Speaker 1:

satellite. Yeah. Yeah. And then so like a little like icon of a satellite. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So he

00:23:18 - 00:25:00 | Speaker 2:

was talking to John and said that he was coming home the next day, which was yesterday, which was we're recording on a Monday. So that was on Sunday. So then, of course, I watched him as soon as he came into range on Sunday. I could see that he was where he was. And then I watched him And he had a great time. Oh, and then John was like, okay, I kept going like, so was it really fun? Like, do you wish you were doing it for another week or are you ready to come home? And he was like, no, bro, I'm ready to be home. And then John was like, so are you reconsidering like going to UC Santa Cruz? And he was like, no, absolutely not. But I had an epic time. Oh my gosh. Because as we talked about on Patreon, that's my positive kid that's just like camping. Sure. Let's do it. Right. Let's. He said that he said they did all these really hard hikes because they're a very outdoorsy family. Yeah. So it was, it was the mom. It's turned out that they took two cars and he said they had many coolers. Okay. So what I was imagining was, oh, they have one cooler and now they're like, does anyone have a cooler? Right. I was like, you people have been camping before. Where's your cooler? Right. Well, I guess they had a lot of gear. Okay. So the mom drove a pickup truck and had two of the kids in her car. So it was five. It was okay. Xander's friend, Izzy and her two brothers, the younger brother brought a friend and Xander was like, they're being friends with the older daughter in the middle. Right. Son. So it was one, two, three, four, five kids. Okay. Five kids.

00:25:00 - 00:26:39 | Speaker 1:

kids, one adult. So not as many original adult, one adult, the mom, the mom. Oh, single mom. Okay. So, but into camping. Wow. Yeah. Sonny would love that mother. Oh my God. So he was like, they were putting me on these hikes that were like very, the most difficult. And they were like, well, you'll be fine. And he's like, he's like, I like that. He goes, I like that. I like a challenge. Right, right, right. He goes, I was like, okay. Wow. What about any bears? No bears. He said they encountered a lot of skunks. Oh, interesting. They were near the water. But he said at one point, the mom kept saying there was a special tent that was sealed with the rest of their food in it. And at one, one night, the younger kids left it and they didn't secure the tent and some raccoons got in there and ate their food. Oh, wow. Wow. So did she make a tent? So he slept in a tent? So the older daughter, the three of the kids slept in one tent. The mom slept in her own tent. And then the two younger boys slept in a tent. Wow. Three tents. And they all were together the whole time. Like, cause I was like, did you ever split off? Did they ever? And he was like, no, we pretty much. They're all probably like doing this together. Yeah. And they all went on all the hikes and they did everything together, but he took so many pictures that looked really beautiful. Yeah. And he was like, not like I was at his age. He was like, oh my God, this one was my favorite. Cause it was so beautiful. Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

00:26:39 - 00:26:44 | Speaker 2:

Like Sonny too, when he brings by, like, look how beautiful this waterfall is. I'm like, okay.

00:26:45 - 00:26:57 | Speaker 1:

I know. Like you don't have to go camping though. You could just look at pictures. Let's go on YouTube. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But he loved it. He had so much fun.

00:26:57 - 00:27:12 | Speaker 2:

That's great. We're just, I just not a big hiking person. No, same. Like, I don't think any of my friends are hikers either. Now that I think about it, Suzanne, no, Melissa, no, like no, no, nobody

00:27:12 - 00:27:44 | Speaker 1:

really likes to hike. I like nature. I really do. Like I do like being out and I have memory. I have some good memories of camping as a kid, but I don't like the getting there or the packing or any of that part setting up. Yeah. And probably once you're there and you're like, you do your one hike and you're like, Oh my God, it's so beautiful. Then I'd be like, now I want to go home and watch Netflix, but then it's, you're good. You're like, Oh, buckle up because we're not coming home for a week. No. I'd be over it right away. Yeah. We would go. It was great when

00:27:44 - 00:28:49 | Speaker 2:

we went camping before we got married, we would go camping with everybody like Tony Barbieri and his wife and Sal, Melissa and Jimmy and Jean. Like we would all go camping for 4th of July. And we always would leave a day or two earlier. Like Adam would be like, all right, I'm done with this. They want to stay another day. I'm like, I don't want to stay. And he's like, all right, let's go. And we would just do like, we would leave early in the morning before the Corollas left without saying goodbye. But we would do that. We would go camping like in tents or in cabins because Tony Barbieri and I have the same birthday. Oh, you do? On the same day. Yeah. So every August and it's always by Labor Day weekend. It's at the end of August. So we would, everybody would go camping together and then they would celebrate a birth, like our birthdays. That's why I don't know why we did it like three years in a row, which was crazy, but not when I was a kid. Not really. I just went with the school. Right. And then I never really took the kids camping. They never really wanted to. They, they did with their friends a couple of times,

00:28:49 - 00:29:41 | Speaker 1:

but that was about it. You know, listen, it just seemed like so like, why? Well, as you know, Sadie would was, has no interest in going camping. And anytime I would even offer anything sort of adventurous. My kids are like me a lot of the time. I mean, I mean, like I think Xander would have been up for stuff, but I think LB would have been like, huh? And say no. So then I have to drag them. Right. I also remember when my kids were a little younger, everything was a big production, a big Shaw because they got carsick even up through, even recently Xander said he felt carsick coming home from the trip. So, you know, the time I surprised them and took them to Lego land, that was like a huge ordeal. Yes. Yeah. I know. Yeah. Yeah. What there was the kid. Didn't

00:29:41 - 00:30:00 | Speaker 2:

you take them to a gray's lodge, the gray's wolf lodge? Yeah. Great wolf lodge. But that's not, I've never went there, but that's not camping. That's, that's like a hotel. Yeah. Natalia has been at her boyfriend's now for like over a week at his family's.

00:30:00 - 00:30:37 | Speaker 1:

house in Lake Tahoe and they have a boat. So I'm getting videos and stuff of her wakeboarding. Now she's like doing wakeboarding. She's like tried very hard to do it. She couldn't get up. She couldn't get up. Finally, she got up. So now she's like sending me, she makes it look easy. I'm just watching her. I'm like, that's so cool. Like, so she's having a good old time, but they're not camping, but like they're on the lake, which is nice. You know, it's fun. I'm going on the lake in two weeks. Yay. Two weeks, three weeks. Yeah. To Glenn's house in Parker, which is fun. Like all of our friends are going to go again and he's got a boat. It's that stuff. I like same. I like

00:30:37 - 00:32:23 | Speaker 2:

being on the boat, on the, on the river, whatever that that's fun. I love water stuff. I've always loved going out on boats. I, the best time I ever had was water skiing. I got up same. Yeah. Maybe I'll water ski this time. We'll see. I only did it once. And it was when I was a camp counselor for a YMCA camp and you did it and you got up. Yeah, I was 30. And, um, I've told you this story before. My friend was like, it was a volunteer thing. I volunteered to be a camp counselor. I was on the older side, right? It was super fun. And remember I, I was like, I want the older girls. I want like people I can relate to. I don't want like younger. I don't want to be teaching like elementary school. I want like, so I got the 13 year olds. They were all like eye rolling, sneaking off to smoke pot. Right. You know, we were coming up with a, you had to do a skit, like not a skit, but like, yeah, like a skit, like a song. So ours was to, you can ring my bell. You can ring my bell. Ring my bell. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you're home and I put away the dishes. Anyway, we found a way to make it kind of like inappropriate. Right. Of course. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah. But the cool thing about that was I got to do all the stuff that like campers did. Right. Right. So I learned how to water ski. It was the best time. Yeah. But I'm just not motivated enough to figure out like how to do that. Right. Like, do they have, like, could you go to like Big Bear Lake and then sign up for waters? I mean, how do you even do it? I think you got to go on someone's boat.

00:32:23 - 00:32:55 | Speaker 1:

Yes. Cause when we were teenagers, our friend Scott had a boat and we would go all the time to like Lake Havasu, all these different places. God, there was one like Millerton, which was so far away anyway. And he would, we would get in the back of his boat and everybody knew how to water ski. Cause they all did it when they were young, but of course I didn't do it. So I was like 16 and I learned. And I was like, so when I got up, I was like, Oh my God, I'm water skiing. Like it was great. You know, it's fun. It's fun. Yeah. So that's the way to do it. I mean, I've never

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even been zip lining. I'm still, Oh my God, you gotta go zip lining. I know you should. It's like when you get older, just everything seems hard. Like you're like, okay, but then what do we do with the dog? And I heard about this place. Oh, oh, I know what I wanted to tell you about too. And then we have some other topics, but I just wanted to tell you that. So for 4th of July, I was invited to this barbecue, but we'd never had Bob over a 4th of July. And Bob is, Bob is very scared of stuff. So, and I really do think because when we got him and we took him to the vet and they found all these scabs all over his face. And I, I told you the vet was like, this dog has been attacked by other dogs. It's not like a skin infection. Cause it wasn't anywhere else on his body. And she's like, that's where they start biting their face. So he's scared of other dogs. He, he gets over it. If he gets introduced to them, he's not at all aggressive with anybody else. So he doesn't growl. He just gets scared and he tucks his tail between his legs and he like backs away and he, you know, he's being assaulted in some way. Um, so I was like, and he, he's scared of loud noises. So I was like, I don't know how the fourth is going to go right. This dog. Right. So I stayed home with him on the third, the night before I took him for a walk with my neighbor, Mitch and Pete, these fucking assholes in our neighborhood were like park lighting off fireworks. Right. And he freaked the fuck out. Hated it was like, and then the next night, which was last night. Yeah. Or the night before, I can't remember. I think it might've been on the fourth and there were the people weren't lighting them off near our house at the time. It was earlier. He was like shell shock from the night before he wouldn't walk. He wouldn't like, he just kept stopping and like looking around and like.

00:35:00 - 00:36:27 | Speaker 3:

kind of freezing. He was like traumatized. So I gave him a trazodone. Wow. Drugged him up. And, uh, and I gave him one. So I gave him one when we got home on July 3rd, cause he was so upset and pacing. And when I went to take a shower, he like was sleeping on it. He went under my desk. Oh my gosh. Mellowed him out and he went to sleep. But then on the fourth, I didn't medicate him, but then last night I had to give him a pill again. Cause we went out and there was no fireworks and he was still scared, scared. He wouldn't walk. He was. Yeah. Oh no. Anyway, my point is I, I guess I have a slightly high needs dog and now I just have to make sure I worry about like going out of town and leaving him somewhere. Right. Right. I don't know if he'll hate if it'll be like a little bit traumatizing to just be like, you know what I mean? He's not going to understand that he's just boarding unless, and the thing that would mitigate that would be if it's really fun. And there's this place called like, I want to say it's called paradise something. Have you heard of this? Yeah. And it's all these little like swim and they can like, and the dogs love it. And one of my neighbors was like, her dog is a little bit like Bob, but when he goes to that place. He loves it so much. So I might go and check them out and see if I can

00:36:27 - 00:36:42 | Speaker 4:

bring Bob there for the day. Yeah. I was going to say, see if you can do a day, day thing. Yeah. Yeah. That would be good. Cause then maybe if he, if he socializes with these other dogs and stuff and he gets used to being around other, I have to see if he will socialize with other dogs.

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great. I, so the, I texted you. Yes. I want to hear about, we have two, two quick things. One is I texted you this documentary that you said you already watched on Hulu called Little Miss Innocent. It was really good. I watched it a long time ago, probably over a year ago. Now I knew the story from hearing from an old dateline. Right. Right. But this was so different because right from the beginning, when you watch the dateline, it's way more of a whodunit. Yeah. And then you find out at the end that it was the, um, so like, I don't think this is like a spoiler alert because this documentary opens with this girl's in jail. Yeah. So the, there's a family, the mom, and she's like a chiropractor. Right. Right. Right. She's, she has her own clinic. She has her own clinic. She's married to a guy and she has a son and the son had a girlfriend and the girlfriend worked at the place.

00:40:00 - 00:42:57 | Speaker 1:

Right. It was like a kind of family business, right? Where everybody didn't. So it's just her that worked there. No, I think the son and the, and the son's girlfriend both worked there. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So the son and this girl. And the mom was very respected, right? Everybody loved her. Everybody loved her. Yeah. She's health conscious, always having her smoothies. Right. Yeah. Very beloved. And the son and the, his girlfriend had a super toxic relationship. and he would leave her messages and stuff and just be like, I'm just really like, what are you doing to me? Like, it was weird. Like he was weird. So, and she comes across when she's, so she's interviewed from the beginning and she's like, I did not do this. Like, and basically kind of blaming the son. So what happened? Who do the, what do what? Oh, so the woman, the chiropractor gets killed and, um, coltrazine. So you find out it's, she's gets drugged. Okay. So she, they find her dead. She's really sick and she thinks she has food poisoning or something. And she's like driving home and she's on the phone with her husband and she's like, Oh my God. Oh my God. That's right. I'm sick. And then they send her to the emergency room and then her organs start failing and then she dies. Right. Right. And everybody's like, what the fuck? What happened? Yeah. What happened? Yeah. They can't find anything wrong, but then they do like a toxicology. They look for poison and they do find this drug called culture scene. Right. I remember vividly a picture of it, like in the truck on the floor. Yes, because, okay. It's so crazy. So, and I don't want to give everything away, but the girl, the girlfriend who's who from the beginning of this documentary is in jail, right? Doing her interview from jail. And like, this is so crazy. I did not do it, but somebody writes an anonymous letter to the police and says, if you want to know like the culture scene, where the culture scene came from, look in his, I forgot the guy's name. Let's call him Dan. Right. Look in Dan's on the passenger side of Dan's truck. Right. So the police are like, holy shit. Yes. Her son, they all go and they, they get the, they get the truck and they find the culture scene. And he's like, dude, I do not, what the fuck? I don't know where that came from. Right. But it is a little bit like you do go back and forth. Right. So they, because he's kind of a, the son is sort of an unreliable narrator. Yeah. Like he's weird and he's a really bad alcoholic. Right. And it does seem like he might've been kind of abusive. And the girlfriend though, she looks like prim and proper. Doesn't she? Like she looks super sweet and innocent. Like you would never, ever people

00:42:57 - 00:45:16 | Speaker 1:

liked her the mother-in-law liked her right everybody liked her and that's why they called her little miss innocent right but she so yeah and she said so she accused the son her boyfriend of like raping her remember that and he but he's like and she's like well you were just drunk you were blacked out you don't remember right he's like i didn't do i don't remember that like i was and she's like yeah but you did and it it turned it turns out well you gotta watch it but did you think it was so good it was so good when you're watching it yes yeah oh my god i'm not sure what i believe yeah maybe the end it's gonna be really obvious right but the whole but for i think it's a couple episodes there is like three a couple uh yeah yeah i think it's three episodes and it's on hulu yes but you will go back and forth going oh wait well yeah because you're like how this she doesn't seem like she why would you what's her motive like why would she kill the mother like you find out yeah you're like you know who has a motive is this son is the son right so you're thinking like no like they he like somehow and also the husband though okay forgot about the husband yeah he was suspect suspect too i mean you're gonna be like how are they gonna land on this person and do they have the right person right right yeah until the end it's good it's I remember. Yeah. I might've talked about, I don't know. I watched it. Like, I want to say like over a year ago. It's a long time ago. I don't feel like you told me about it though. Yeah. Maybe I forgot. I, yeah. You were holding out on me. I know. I stayed home on the 4th of July the entire day. I laid in bed and like watch TV. What did you watch? What'd you watch? I don't, I couldn't even tell you. I know. I just watched different Hulu documentaries. I just kept going back and forth on stuff. Yeah. I also re-listened due to my memory. It is the greatest gift because I've told you that the heaven's gate. podcast. Oh yeah. Greatest podcast. I literally started that at the beginning didn't and was loving it all over again. I've watched the documentary. I've listened to heaven's gate, the podcast. Yeah. Probably seven times. Right, right, right. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

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I have the same thing with locked up abroad. I've been watching that like at night, you know, I need something to like fall asleep to. So I I'm like, Oh, just watch locked up abroad. Like it's all new to me. I know I've seen all these before. There are some new ones though, that I've been, that have been inserted there that I've never seen. Like there's some where there's people that go and infiltrate the cartel and that's not locked up abroad. That that's them talking about infiltrating, you know, there is some of those stories, but I love it. It's so good. Locked up

00:45:49 - 00:45:59 | Speaker 1:

abroad never gets old for me. So they made the podcast based on the show, which is really good, but there's only like 18 episodes or something.

00:46:00 - 00:46:28 | Speaker 2:

No, I go to Apple TV and they're all there like seven or eight seasons. Oh. Cause then there's the lot, there's the ones that are smuggling drugs, but then there's also ones where people are like, you know, doing a, like a humanitarian trip, you know, to like some of these war torn countries and then they get kidnapped and held for ransom. And they're there for years and they're telling their story. So it's like, wow, it's all new. I haven't seen it in years. So good. Yeah.

00:46:28 - 00:46:35 | Speaker 1:

And also just, can you update me on what's going on with the Karen Reed, the Michael Proctor thing? So the Michael, there's an update.

00:46:35 - 00:49:34 | Speaker 2:

So Michael Proctor, who was the detective in charge of Karen Reed's case, when we talked last, I told you all about his horrible text messages to fellow cops, very racist, very misogynist. like anybody is a target. Everybody like women, you know, minorities, everything, horrible guy, even talked about planting evidence. Sound like maybe he wants to plant some taillight too, while he's at it. And, you know, talked about planting evidence. So his life, like his wife left him. Now he's got to get deposed by Alan Jackson, who's Karen Reed's fucking awesome lawyer. And he's like, give me a piece of him. Like he wants to depose this Proctor guy. So he tried to get out of his deposition. He's saying that he is going to be, his lawyers in court said he's going to be gone for 30 days and he can't sit for a deposition. So basically people are like, oh, he's like going, his wife left him. Everybody knows what a piece of shit he is. He's ashamed. So he's going like some rehab in Florida. That's so, okay. So the, so the judge was like, okay, fuck that. We're going to still see, I don't care. We're going to still see, he's got to sit for deposition. So he had one day of deposition like a week ago and reportedly turtle boy reported that somebody reported to him that he was seen outside of the deposition, having like a panic attack. Oh, B. Right. So then he went, went back in, finished his one day deposition, had to sit for a second day, but then the judge got word that somehow it was leaked on Twitter that somebody on Twitter leaked that his medical, his medical information saying that it was leaked on Twitter at this time at two o'clock, this period, you know, whatever somebody put on Twitter that Michael Proctor is in a rehab in Florida. And that's what, you know, and so the judge got pissed. The judge called last week on the Friday before the 4th of July, called 34 attorneys that are all part of this case, had them fly into Massachusetts. Alan Jackson had to fly from LA. They were all there in person. He gave this, I watched Melanie Little do, cause she's a lawyer. I watched her cover it. Like she was there live watching it and breaking it down. He basically said somebody, he had all the lawyers sign an affidavit that they did not leak that information, which they didn't. And he basically read them the riot act and said, if, if, if any more information gets leaked about, first of all, he was saying this case is becoming a spectacle. There's too much interest. And people are like, there's interest in it because yeah, there's corruption going on in, in Massachusetts, like all the way to the top, like there's corruption and they're trying to expose it. And the judge is like too much, too much social media interest in this case and blah, blah, blah. And if anything else he goes, and I'm going to stay,

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which means he's going to stay Michael Proctor's deposition for now. He's not allowed to be deposed anymore at this point in time. And he might keep it a stay for good. If anything else gets leaked and he read them, meaning like they can't fucking depose Michael Proctor anymore. Like why, why are they protecting this piece? Why is this judge protecting this piece of shit? Yeah, that's crazy. It turned out, by the way, Turtle P- boy looked into it. Yeah. So he read the riot act for like 10 minutes, said happy 4th of July, goodbye. And then Alan Jackson stood up and was like, we're not allowed to be heard. And the judge walked off. And that was that, that was it. That was on the right before the 4th of July turtle boy found out this X person on X on Twitter that posted this was him. He posted something. He said he got a message from somebody that said that Michael Proctor's ex-wife is telling people at her work that he's going to rehab in Florida. So Turtle Boy, two days before this thing got leaked. So it wasn't a leak. The judge was wrong. The judge was wrong. Two days before it came out in court, Turtle Boy says, Michael Proctor's ex-wife says he's in Florida in a rehab. So he posted that and it was like posted, the judge says it was a post at like 10.26 AM. The ex post came out and Turtle Boy said, I posted something that day, but it was at 2.26 PM. And somebody said, when you take a screenshot, if you don't have Twitter and you send that picture to the judge, it's going to, it's going to change the time. Like they tested it. So it changed the time to 10.26. So he's seen this tweet. He got it all wrong. Like Turtle Boy just, just reported what he got two days before. So the judge is fucked. Everybody's figured out now that the judge was wrong. So now that's where we're at. Like, we don't know. Wow. But it's like, why are they protecting? So this guy could get away with it. He could get away with it. And like, and now, because the judge said that, don't you, people are saying like, fucking Proctor now is going to leak more. Like he's going to leak his own medical so that he can get protected by this judge. like he now he's got the power to like hey have a family member leak more information about his shit to piss off the judge and the judge could be like okay no more no more proctor uh depositions for you guys like wow like he could get away with it like that wow so that's where we're at now crazy yeah keep an eye on this one i know it's really good for sure i will i will yeah keep me up to date. Yeah. Um, well, this was super fun. Yeah. Let's say hi to our friends. We got Dick who's frolicking. Nikki, call your girl. Come on. Elizabeth Williamson has so many kids. She keeps having them. She keeps having them, but you know, they're getting rocked and, um, and, uh, Rita's

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yet. Yeah. Polly, we love your pancakes. Valerie, Bubba Fenwick. It's out of the park. Katerina. Girl, check that thing already. It's going to fall out. Or be pulled out. Gabby and Missy, still at the fireworks. Still trying to sell fireworks and flip-flops. Yep. Ishan Fajpay. Rebecca Lubin is so nice. Kelly Brandt. She's your aunt. She'll gas that van up. Take it to Planned Parenthood. Yep, put a diaper on and yeah. Yeah. Alicia Escalante from the city of El Monte. Leslie with the coughing. Aaron's a dirty. Sanchez. Sandra, it's not easy, but you do it well. Yep. Krista gets shot and Katie's rolling on E and listen, get a car from Adam. Adam's got a car. He can help you. He's my friend. If anybody wants to know, do you really know him? Yes. For 20 years. And he, I, I trust him. I trust him too. I love him. Yeah. So great. He's really just going to try to help you. Yeah, he is. And he's on top of it. He just wants you to get a better price than you can get yourself. That's all he's trying to do. All right. Thank you guys. Thank you for, Oh, also if you want to take my class, my writing class, uh, it starts not this week that you're, that you're listening, not, not the week coming up, but the next week, July 23rd is a Thursday. Um, and I have some spots open for people that might want to try writing. Nice. Yeah. All right. All right. Thanks everybody. You're a parent now. Don't have it up.

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