I feel like we should still call him, even though you make a good point, Gavin. We'll still call him and see what we can get out of him. Are you okay with that, Robin? Yeah, for sure. All right, so here's how we do it. We call up Hudson, we offer him roses, we try to get a little info out of him, feel him out. You're going to be able to listen in the entire time. Plus, at any point, if you want to talk to Hudson, confront him, whatever, you'll be able to do that as well. You can just jump in, okay? Okay. Hold on, Robin. Jeff? Anyone else bored? You know what? I'm incredibly bored over here. I am a little bit because I feel like nothing's going on. It could be an old profile. Gavin made a great point.