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Kurt Metzger

Matt Ehret Is Here To Derp With Kurp

from Kurt Metzger

April 21, 2026 | 02:26:24 | Comedy

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00:00:00 - 00:00:29 | Speaker 1:

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00:00:30 - 00:01:21 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm just a kerp, I'm only a kerp And I'm derpity-derpin' on the interwerp Well, it's a long, long skirp to the viral serp It's a long, long work while I'm fuckin' to come erp But I know I'll go some merp At least I hope and pray that I work But today I'm still just a kerp Well, I'm just a kerp and I derpity-derp I'll hold you, come and derp with merp From the depths of the firp, I start as a smurf Hopin' for likes and sherps to climb the werp Then it's off to the trips when it be derps to surf If I pass all the chirps, I'll be shared foreign words But if I get flagged, don't we derp Back to the draft, I'll derp We work and we perp In the endless constand for derp Please buy a t-shirt Elkid Kerp off surf Have you read Derp Phonetics? Oh, would you come and derp with derp?

00:01:22 - 00:02:34 | Speaker 4:

Oh, welcome to Derp with Kerp With, uh, I don't know why we used the same AI slop from the last one uh i just wanted to use the song so that's the first derp of the show that's always good luck i i would say uh i got a great guest matt eric that i've been dying to talk to because me my girl been watching uh struck by light well she watched it and i get bored and walk away because i feel like they're me but matt eric i seen on triple e show explaining the oneida cult uh because i don't have my suspicion i don't think people just shoot presidents i i ever since and and i gotta give credit to this that dude um what's his head you know the guy who saved western culture sargon the the gamer gate guy i heard him say this once and i swear to god what a great point he said though he goes i've never understood why americans have to shoot their president it's like a king that's going to be there forever like you got it's 48 years what you need to actually do a whole murder why would you have to do that boy that's a great question from him why the hell would you have to well i would never have to some oligarch who's really in charge would have to though right and uh then i started looking into it and i mean andrew jackson think they tried to have him whacked because like that crazy guy thought he'd be the king of england if he killed andrew jackson you know where he beat him you know a bunch of stuff about jackson too

00:02:35 - 00:03:31 | Speaker 2:

i don't know about i don't know about necessarily the jackson story of his assassination attempt or the the person who tried to kill him because it just smells a little bit like creative fiction where it's almost too perfect of a story kind of like the uh the male courier who's like carrying around a bunch of letters in 1776 he struck by lightning and then i don't know that story what is that that's a different story so i was gonna link it up to it because that's the story of adam weistop and the discovery of the the evil adam weistop is that how they say that they found are you telling me that's how they say they found that that's the story that was cooked up from like john robinson back in the 18th century was yeah that the that there's this male courier and all of a sudden he dies gets struck by lightning and then some farmer discovers these burnt up letters between like kato like nagamati texts of of uh well yeah right like pretty much we're prodding to take over the world and it's very protocols of zion language you know like who talks like that

00:03:31 - 00:03:57 | Speaker 4:

i've seen that protocols letter rewritten five different ways for five different genres of things including a modern illuminati one the old illuminati one the world war three i mean that manzini one with uh and it's all like it comes off to me like well i'm sure this is true but i doubt this is the minutes from a meeting it sounds like you're writing your shitty intentions purposely in a fake thing so that people will go no one would do that it's what it sounds like to

00:03:57 - 00:04:36 | Speaker 2:

me but it sounds exactly yes it's a very limited hangout and then they they can tell you about like 95 factual truths but then that five percent of trojan horse is where the the devil is located right um so same sort of thing i think with the case of like the revelation of this grandiose conspiracy by the illuminati under adam vice top's control i think that it involves a lot of true revelations that were brought to the surface by that but at the same time the directing attention away from these ancient mystery cults and all of a sudden it's just this like one dude who's like a pissed off school teacher vice talk who wants like reform the world um jay-z marketing yeah

00:04:36 - 00:04:59 | Speaker 4:

which he did market on purpose and his former assistants are like whether i'm not saying he's in the illuminati or not although i do think now the illuminati is like ciroc like it's more of like a black people thing but you know it's owned by england but anyway he uh uh all this is that he knew he was trying to push that so just think of just a rapper just market never mind any real real Illuminati thing, just as marketing and what marketing is.

00:05:00 - 00:05:11 | Speaker 1:

it's very easy to see a pattern over and over uh the thing i'm blown away with when i started talking to sam about the oneida cult uh uh and i don't know the show bothered me have you seen the

00:05:11 - 00:05:19 | Speaker 2:

show the no i didn't even know it existed so this is like a show on what netflix okay yeah it's i

00:05:19 - 00:05:23 | Speaker 1:

don't know death by like lightning or death something like death by lightning oh wait is

00:05:23 - 00:05:28 | Speaker 2:

that what it's called this is definitely a show about the oneida cult what's who's the guy um

00:05:29 - 00:06:14 | Speaker 1:

he was on boardwalk empire he played the corrupted fbi agent and he's he looks like a big frankenstein good actor uh mark you know i'm talking about michael shannon michael shannon plays garfield and then um i don't know the guy who plays uh uh charles get out but he's he's uh you know he does look smelly i mean he nails that part of it but when they show the oneida cult it'll be like just flashbacks to the stuff that you could find out from uh sam onella university video on youtube right first i heard of this so okay so i'm like this isn't i i know there's more to this and i don't believe in this guys it's just like no one would really do that you know what i mean like why would they do that unless you were conditioned to do that by somebody absolutely yeah no i i do

00:06:14 - 00:06:20 | Speaker 2:

think that and do they do they in this show actually treat in depth the oneida cults in any

00:06:20 - 00:06:26 | Speaker 1:

no it's just sort of a adjacent thing oh you're not even talking about the eugenics aspect of it

00:06:26 - 00:08:35 | Speaker 2:

or the pulling out and what you know yeah yeah yeah or you got it as we say sacred incontinence uh yeah no so there are no that's one of the things that kind of got my mind to start moving in this direction um early on was the fact that i couldn't let go of the fact that i'm canadian i'm canadian so we don't have like i don't feel i never was raised with an american education i didn't have imbued within me any kind of sense of pride even in the national myths but the amount when i started looking more critically at the world from this this more conspiratorial lens that was helping me recast a more truthful representation of what caused my current world and all this insanity that i was discovering okay was the death of american presidents and the fact that so many american presidents died while in office in america is a really it's a very young country but despite that there's been eight presidents who died while in office of an otherwise very very young country and you're like is there a connection between these various cases because four died clearly by bullet uh another four died by mysterious causes typically they keel over at a convenient moment like start vomiting black ooze like uh zachary taylor in 1852 taylor vomited black ooze yeah he started vomiting black ooze profusely uh at a i think a july 4th ceremony or something and the official diagnostic to him was too many too he drank too much cold milk and cherries was the official i shit you not diagnostic of his cause of death but he wasn't the first before him there was uh harrison president harrison died after what like three months or something yeah um or three weeks even i don't know william henry harris he died in 90 days i think it's like that like three months yeah so like that was you know that's an anomaly and then and they're both wig presidents like they're they're both coming out of this party that later on gives rise to abraham lincoln and forms the republican party in 1856 but then you're like okay lincoln dies then you have garfield that dies uh then you have mckinley that dies and then you have warren harding that dies uh so we're like a banana republic out of the gate

00:08:36 - 00:09:08 | Speaker 1:

it sounds like because every time you hear about this in these like less less uh bronze metal countries as mike vecchio my friend calls him instead of saying third world they it's clearly an intel group is their uh machine you know manufacturing all the events and we know that instinct hey you know in panama they or wherever name a country well they're always it's a simpsons joke in africa the guy that is like this is peaceful because there's all smotherings and it was a bloodless coup you're all smothering it's like i mean it's an old joke here about other places but why would we have it to that degree i don't think it's because we have

00:09:08 - 00:10:16 | Speaker 2:

guns because canada has guns right right well that that's what sort of got me to reframe my presumptions because i had a very narrow simplistic idea of what america was as sort of this one dimensional empire that never had anything other than itself you know um that that one characteristic that i saw since vietnam and all these things but then as an anomaly there's this this case of all of these presidents who are getting killed uh at very very strange moments um and then i started asking well could it be possible that there is a another character to the united states that these guys were representing that might have more to do with the principles within the constitution that they were trying to act upon and that were disrupting a certain or challenging a certain power structure that might still be very active in my current day um and sure enough when you start digging and pulling on that thread yeah there there is a direct connection between all of these presidents who did die in terms of what their policies were who they were challenging what were the which had less to do with specifically the united states per se and more to do with this international super national yeah oligarchy yeah yeah the serpent race you could call them which

00:10:16 - 00:10:41 | Speaker 1:

they call themselves at top levels i don't know why they call well i do know why it's some with kate i mean when you get in their nonsense mythologies these have it's unreal i mean they they all like there's a dozen different ones of these cults it's like the kid getting struck by lightning with the illuminati letter like by the time you get to hear the names of they already a bunch of don't even have a name it's just really important families i would look at as royals

00:10:42 - 00:11:03 | Speaker 2:

right like their blood's better than your blood right yeah i see it more like as partially it has a material aspect of bloodlines and then another aspect of like um a closed culture that is very different from the one that most like 99.8 percent of the world population gets to experience or is permitted to access as far as a closed culture the whole world's their israel

00:11:03 - 00:11:23 | Speaker 1:

i've heard this from people they call it the old religion and the whole world's israel okay it's not just the israel you might care about as a peon the earth is israel and everyone's a goy but them and they're not jews i don't i i'm not saying they're lizards that might be just a metaphor great metaphor but i think some lizards are nicer than these people honestly i know skinks

00:11:23 - 00:11:28 | Speaker 2:

are a very kind lizard yeah there's like a big one is that actually can develop affection and

00:11:28 - 00:12:01 | Speaker 1:

stuff too yeah these aren't like that they're more like dinoids you would call them and they love evolution and they love and they love oh you do a god good work on that too because i wasn't aware all those weird around darwin but that would dismiss all of it before i was watching your stuff on it that guy had a handler anyway so oneida i just want to finish this because i'm the worst as followers of shadow okay uh so that cuckoo guy uh charles guiteau yeah yeah okay what do you know about that they're not telling me in the regular story i guess is what i'm saying

00:12:01 - 00:12:36 | Speaker 2:

okay yeah let's narrow it down yeah but yeah let's narrow it down uh so okay charles guiteau um is the guy who famously kills garfield but he's also the guy who uh gives testimony before he's executed for having killed garfield as having uh an experience in this oneida cult in upper state new york um which was set up by this guy uh john humphrey's uh john humphrey noyes i believe okay that name's familiar a yale divinity school uh graduate high-level scottish right who set up the skull and bones this is already in the 1820s the skull and bones is to be set up in

00:12:36 - 00:12:53 | Speaker 1:

1833 so he then narco pirate uh organization go ahead yes yeah yeah yeah it's pronounced my uh assistant nephilim mark uh says it's noise noise okay i've always been like i say noise

00:12:53 - 00:13:28 | Speaker 2:

spanish or something nice okay uh yeah so okay this guy gets it in his head um whether or not he believes it to what degree he believes it i don't know but he goes through some form of process that has him believe that he is the i guess it's the the brother or some reincarnation of the messiah i forget the specific detail but enough to give him the clout to start his own uh movement his own cult yeah yeah it'll and has the ambition of remaking all of humankind at some point so it's sort of an incubator as i think almost all of these cults are and there are lots of these cults

00:13:28 - 00:14:49 | Speaker 1:

by the way i grew up jehovah's witness i grew up jehovah's witness oh so that's uh the russell family i didn't know what now i only very recently found this out from having blair white you know blair white the most passing is trans ever seen online uh blair white's name is blair white russell it's one of the early episodes uh yeah her charles days russell i don't he's her great great something uh invented and he was some kind of left-hand path uh rosy cross they're all and and you have to understand joe's and and since then i've learned because i gotta tell you i their policies of not you know you said you didn't feel american patriotism obviously not from america from canada and you didn't you're not like i guess you're not from edmonton where he really would buy into it but uh jove's witnesses don't salute the flag or join the military because it's against god so we're a control group all these things are like gain-of-function experiments every single one of them by some dipshit occultist yeah it's unreal and it's for path working they call it you'll notice a lot of jehovah's end up being famous and they're all making their own little and and i can tell you this from experience joseph is not like a head guy that we would worship as a prophet like charles taze russell my mother who's still in it she don't care that charles taze russell's a creep that they don't worship him like that it's a self-perpetuating machine now you understand it'll always keep going so that's quite an achievement

00:14:49 - 00:15:09 | Speaker 2:

to make that yeah i guess it's the same as the mormons in some ways like they don't take joseph smith necessarily like they don't care that he was a lot of mormons don't like the polygamy that he was promoted

00:15:00 - 00:15:51 | Speaker 1:

and they have a left hand they all got a left and right hand path i guess it turns out you you they all say they don't but they do the mormies got a left hand path of god i got that from jr sweet should read his experiences i gave his book to rogan because he was an mk monarch kid and that's because his bloodline is very important he also says yo because of his book and then my i got good i have good fans on here though oh give me good info a lot uh i didn't know gail pooley his shitbag cia uncle was a guy that does podcasts on abundance with jordan peterson that was a surprise to find that out but gail pooley in my opinion is a cia and a dark occultist all of them are it's all nlp tony robbins taken to just absurd the oneida thing like why would that come up at the guy's trial even that he went there

00:15:52 - 00:16:12 | Speaker 2:

well yeah and and he even described in his interview uh that he gave before he died that he could vaguely remember what had happened to him for the years that he was there his father wasn't involved in it he seems to have been like a young guinea pig that was like his father was involved in it somehow his father was involved in it yeah there was that family connection his dad put him

00:16:12 - 00:16:22 | Speaker 1:

in a program i mean as what immediately jumps out is because this story is a repeating story through a lot of shit with a lot of people my parents put me in a thing because i'm especially they're

00:16:22 - 00:17:06 | Speaker 2:

gonna try out something on me it's a new kind of thing yeah yeah no exactly i so he was certainly offered up and and he describes how his memories were vague he felt like he had no free will while he was in this strange um environment um so he's very cloudy minded even going into the gallows but this thing itself when you actually look at what noyes had created with the oneida colony and and they kind of disbanded in that form as a cult around the time of garfield's death because it was really bad publicity for them although they continued in another weird way that's silverware yeah the oneida silverware is still a thing you could buy in in like woolco or walmart today even now um apparently it's high quality silverware it's some of the best you can get apparently they

00:17:07 - 00:17:14 | Speaker 1:

if they do it well um but so i've been holding their jizz in for months well that's the weird

00:17:14 - 00:18:03 | Speaker 2:

thing right is that this this cult is admired by aldous huxley he writes uh admiringly of their um no of of their power of of infusing what he recognized then you know 80 years later as a tantric practice and maybe they were aware of that too back in the day that would enhance your sort of chakras and what have you as you hold in your your jizz as you as you've called it uh there was an actual name for it um i something chi energy real energy they had 20 things for holding your goddamn yeah it's all different names getting you the same garbage shooting without release is the goal basically the idea is they all want superpowers so um yeah right and they'll come up with all of these different techniques and things of sexual practice breathing exercises altered states of consciousness that they can get from like sensory deprivation and all sorts of

00:18:03 - 00:18:20 | Speaker 1:

drug use but then on kids it's even more effective it turns out and then putting parasites in you and engineering certain kinds of parasites that target specific pathways in the brain to speed up your evolution yeah that's the thing they do oh there's all kinds of wacky shit well yeah and i

00:18:20 - 00:19:07 | Speaker 2:

know that carl young even wrote um on occult psychology uh oh what was it he was he was speaking admiringly of kids who go through intense trauma and this is back in the 1890s he's writing this and he's like these are gifted kids they're special kids because at that point they have these higher powers initiation into adept yeah mass initiation yeah it exactly so it seems like this cult which was again one of many like there was an array of dozens and dozens of these calls it was a bio labs yeah pretty much yeah their laboratories yeah psycho spiritual i see it as reading religious engineering programs that are just doing little trial and errors seeing what works what doesn't work that you can then like scale up um that's the joe's you know

00:19:07 - 00:20:00 | Speaker 1:

a key thing that i've somebody just told me yesterday who had been in it and i didn't understand but it's the thing i always felt when i was five as a jove's witness it sounds kind of silly but i was ready to die dude and what i mean is if there was like you had to get thrown to the lions or renounce whatever we were doing i would be throwing the lions and i would go terrified to it but i would be so happy because i would know that i hadn't done nothing wrong and i'm guaranteed that i'm good now with you know you understand and a fight you gotta be five to feel like how i felt it then see there's a weird weird weird uh paradox where they want that's why all these spec up guys call people the bad guys and like a five-year-old because i want you to think like a five-year-old and kill like a five-year-old but i gotta kill the spirit of a five-year-old also that ask questions about why am i doing this yeah that's been the goal the whole time for these assholes it's been the goal the whole time

00:20:00 - 00:20:23 | Speaker 2:

time it's dirty right because they take something which is relatively true and pure like that the fact that we should have humility we should have the the innocence the wonder of a child in that's a that's a truthful foundation for true wisdom is you want to hold on to that don't let that kid inside of you die but at the same time don't let go of the of the actual adult mature wisdom and discernment and knowledge of evil that you also need to hold on to actually very similar

00:20:23 - 00:21:17 | Speaker 1:

to what jesus actually there's something about that adam and eve story i don't know what the the real story is that it's like encoding in any way you know they always any myth has something in it that you're trying to get a message out but there's something about growing up too fast like yeah there's something about something pedo that I don't know what but there's something where it's like this is an unnatural thing to try to make kids not innocent like there's some kind of creep involved trying to make kids not innocent and and there's all this constant those Dinos chapman and his other chapman brothers with their challenging innocence of childhood fucking art projects back in the day and they're connected all those fucking accelerationist motherfuckers they all have it it's like they're all nihilists like they're like like i i don't know it's creepy but oneida is some kind of workshop and it's not just killers right no no killers yeah no and and

00:21:17 - 00:21:59 | Speaker 2:

part of the thing too is that like so they have a strict eugenical program that's part of why they're praised by h.g wells praises them aldous huxley praises them because he's also preparing his groundwork for his uh the island which is pretty much a eugenics fiction piece of fiction in 1960 uh but they're all looking at the brilliance of what they were able to do because if you wanted to have a baby in this cult you had to go to a board of directors overseen always by noyes um you had to then make a case why you were fit to have a child if not you had to keep on doing the withholding uh thing uh for indefinitely and so noyes himself had something like 13 children though like for you know for the guru it never applies to them it's always for other people

00:21:59 - 00:22:19 | Speaker 1:

because he's so exceptional and also there's that uh lron hubbard thing about there's the pieces and the players and the game master right and uh the you know pieces don't other pieces and blah and the master the rules don't apply to the master q anon that's what banon the dungeon masters banon epstein you know that you saw that right yeah that's what they're talking about in the epsy

00:22:19 - 00:23:37 | Speaker 2:

files how to make q anon yeah that's in there well i knew that i knew that epstein was at the ground of uh 4chan in of course 2012 which is like what set up the chikata 3301 operation right for like three years what's that i don't know what that is oh people in google it's a it was basically a um a proto q operation that put forth different uh yeah not chicada thank you mark uh i read i read things i don't often like consume audio wise so i like the cicada bugs yeah that hibernates for 17 years and then pops out again and um exactly cicada 3301 and it was an operation that would pretty much uh tease uh people who were on this uh 4chan to solve puzzles that uh would each one open up the door if you solved it well to an easter egg or a secondary quest challenge that would then put you on to a series of experiences that if you were very talented and could could solve the puzzles you were given some sort of mysterious prize at the end of the day and there three of these that were circulated from 2012 2013 2014 um very similar to the fama rosa crucianis documents of the fama the confessio and the chemical wedding back in the 1614 1516 period

00:23:37 - 00:23:43 | Speaker 1:

right okay i i've never read it i just assumed it was gibberish but but i guess it must be some kind

00:23:43 - 00:24:42 | Speaker 2:

of plan for being a dungeon master yeah there's like layers right so you've got the surface messaging for the plebe uninitiated and then you have the coded uh messages maybe every eighth letter of every second page you'll get a series of of comments that'll give you an instruction to do something sometimes in the real world so it's like an alternative alternate reality game and basically would pull people into these exciting quests whereby their experiences that they would walk into would then be very controlled and curated and for those who would pass those tests would then find themselves initiated into something that would make them assets that would do something like let's say unleash the 30 years war so in the case of like 1619 that was the case where the unveiling of the rosicrucians they're coming out party which was done in that form expressed itself with the phoenixing sort of um bloodbath that became the 30 years war of everybody killing everybody and millions of people died from 1619

00:24:42 - 00:24:53 | Speaker 1:

to 48 right um it's like an after-school movie about dungeon dragons danger starring tom hanks i'm listening to right now yeah they take it too seriously and then real deaths real deaths happen

00:24:54 - 00:25:50 | Speaker 2:

yeah exactly so i i sense i sense kind of like that kind of thing where you know you got the promise of a golden age by frederick v the uh the palatine emperor of uh or the elector pal uh the prince elector of uh uh in prague or in right right and so he got in his head he had this like apollonian identity of a sun god thinking that he was going to somehow unveil a new age with uh his uh they always think they're a sun god don't they yeah too and yeah so anyway and then he and then he goes and declares himself emperor knowing that that was going to like piss off the habsburgs that were controlling as catholics the entire empire and he's a protestant so that was going to very clearly instigate this war clearly and he just ran his troops directly into this bloodbath where most of them died but it created this revangist sort of sentiment of of an each against all type of attitude between catholics and protestants that went on you know in a gory way for a really long

00:25:50 - 00:26:03 | Speaker 1:

time and it wasn't wait wait wasn't the protestant thing even probably somebody working two sides itself like not i started seeing about that now like that's already somebody setting up a dialectic

00:26:03 - 00:27:12 | Speaker 2:

right according to what's his name webster tarplay uh webster tarplay's old work now the something happened with webster tarplay he's he did some great research over the years but something happened to his brain in 2017 or so i don't know what happened but he became maybe he got jabbed too many times i have no idea what occurred but yeah he became jelly but before that back in the 70s 80s 90s he was doing great work and he makes a very good the best case i've seen for the rosicrucian type of psyops from venice that created and shaped martin luther in bringing in people like uh oh i'm forgetting their names now but a bunch of venetian grand strategists um not dissimilar to the to what we saw unveiled with the rosicrucians originally which had the ties of both uh francis bacon's networks that were directly involved with that as well as paul sarpi a leading venetian strategist who was also in correspondence uh through an intermediary with with francis bacon who are all laying the groundwork for on the one hand ironically hyper rigid uh you know this hyper rigid takeover of science that became mainstream empiricism and the the you know the royal society basically came out of the the big home and hold on sam

00:27:12 - 00:27:33 | Speaker 1:

he's calling me again now this is not twice a week so i know this son of a is trolling me i know that's what this is okay so who makes calls sam does that too he sent me a big box of merch okay cool that's interesting i'm not there's two two shows in a row it's not a coincidence he's he's texting you during the show as you're calling sam's call

00:27:35 - 00:27:39 | Speaker 2:

maybe he wants to come on maybe he's he's it's his way of asking you to bring him on

00:27:42 - 00:27:54 | Speaker 1:

pick up the phone i'm injured and i want no he's being a dick that's okay it's pretty funny though he's hurt he's telling me he needs to pick up because he's injured and he's weak all 9-1-1 now i don't know if you know he's in rhode island and i'm fought it's horseshit

00:27:58 - 00:27:58 | Speaker 2:

i got it

00:28:01 - 00:28:29 | Speaker 1:

what a prick he embodies the sin of wrath i've heard people say well i hit nomoruka and that's exactly sam embodies the sin of wrath although sin is probably not a moral thing so much as a i'm with joseph p farrell it's more of a damn some kind of dna damage i'm paraphrasing him but but you know with the western version we get such as what you're just describing of stupid fucking science like it's all from oh you know i got this from

00:28:29 - 00:29:09 | Speaker 2:

yeah well okay yeah there's some great research affiliated with those guys but um what i was gonna say is that one of the things that these guys do is they always they always create things in right so they create this rigid this rigid structure and they call they want to call that science that they then own and they define as being you know purely purely empiricism observation no higher sort and at the same time you have the bacon networks also simultaneously creating this hyper occult um mysticism and this whole rose christian movement as an antidote or a counterpole to the hyper rigidity so they they want to create always both things right so is that okay question

00:29:09 - 00:29:39 | Speaker 1:

okay that okay i i keep saying but i'm just think this i really can't prove it on any with any kind of research but instinct my instinct is that flat earth horseshit is some jesuit op to create a balance against uh rational materialism you know what i mean like a thing that is i believe in this no matter what and like when dave chapelle is like i don't believe in the moon or whatever you know like there's like these fuck you beliefs you know what i mean yeah it creates a caricature

00:29:39 - 00:30:30 | Speaker 2:

scare scarecrow enemy to reinforce the rigid mainstream standard model explanations of cosmology which also are bunk they're also a trap but then they can self-reinforce and inflate their sense of self-importance because they have an enemy this absurd thing that seems to be the only alternative and it's kind of like what thomas huxley did when he was marketing darwin Thank you. to the world is he would always frame these debates that always he never darwin would ever would go in and he would make sure a lot of media would cover these debates between him and a radically uh literalist uh anglican priest of some sort who he knew had a most absurdly rigid literal account of the the you know he probably goes to pizza parties with on the side by the way probably well yeah exactly well kind of and you see it often is that is the case that's a bit of the joke is they creating a show they're putting out a bit of a world wrestling federation kind of

00:30:30 - 00:31:12 | Speaker 1:

thing you know and what's his you know uh uh noam chomsky who i mean like manufacturer consent was right but now i just look at it as like uh you know the uh the rule of having to disclose what you're you know like an itunes agreement uh revelation of the method kind of thing because i watch that chompsi talk about the dangers of this christian nationalist movement especially steve bannon and then the next thing you see is they're all buddies at the island have enjoying some grape soda together i mean i don't know what you need a picture drawn to see like i don't have to do any research to put together what's up yeah well that's the thing

00:31:12 - 00:31:21 | Speaker 2:

and i there so there's like two categories of of of chaos agents as far as like those who are self-aware of what they're doing as i'm sure bannon is and then he's a dog nutrition no doubt

00:31:21 - 00:31:40 | Speaker 1:

title bomb book is great dr heather lynn recommended she's right yeah what's the name of the book i forget oh the uh oh yeah i keep confusing it with uh the title of the mormon that new mormon documentary have you seen that it's very interesting dude the guy uh who came in after

00:31:40 - 00:31:46 | Speaker 2:

warren jeff's and flds oh the chubby guy yeah who's a bit of a is that oh that is almost uh

00:31:47 - 00:32:00 | Speaker 1:

one of that yeah right it's almost a kevin james comedy if not for the underage parts that are really upsetting but it's he's like the loser of the cult yeah all the women have to wear their hair like elaine from seinfeld right and and uh well see but that's that's the thing when i look

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at a guy like that i'm like okay you don't know what you're you're not in on the joke i think he's definitely got higher up handlers because his level of charisma intellect is such a joke and he's so self-inflated by his own massive god like he would he he is the type of psycho like the type of mindset charles guiteau well we're in a white michael jackson pletter jacket i would i don't i don't think his i don't think guiteau's ego is necessarily so big that he thought of himself as as a god he was more of a lower level disposable asset but i think these higher up guys like like this cult creator that you just mentioned um in the mormon cult he's probably got handles like it smells like some form of military intel psychiatrists who are like shaking this guy

00:32:43 - 00:33:21 | Speaker 1:

when they put it on netflix you know netflix has a bunch of cults where they don't tell you well the united thing that that made for but uh how about wild wild country with that raj niche movement they cut out all the child abuse there ain't nothing in there about oh it's these hippies free love yeah there's also a bunch of kids there with where they're the classic thing you might have heard from illuminati whether you switch the kids around with or the family that flirty fishing gross church where you switch the kids to different mothers because you don't want to oh one night it did that didn't they wouldn't they switch that's exactly what oneida was doing the commies do it everybody's got us a real similar programming method right well and they

00:33:21 - 00:34:42 | Speaker 2:

were a common like they actually self-described themselves as um an american socialist organization like they so they were using that language they were using the practice even before marx had published his communist manifesto in 1848 so they were already using that language in 1843-44 um and and yeah they they owned everybody this property all you know children were moved around from families as you just pointed out um but and another thing about this this movement during this time is when you look at the the assassinations internationally it's like there's so many high level leaders who are all activating a similar kind of policy around the same kind of period of time from especially like the 1860s until the world war one period who are all getting offed by creatures who are processed and generated within these different anarchist communes they're socialist anarchist cults and that's the same thing that killed uh mckinley in 1902 was a guy who was generated from a cult also i think this one was in buffalo that was overseen by emma goldman the uh woman who's like really yeah yeah yeah she was like uh bailed i think she was even arrested i believe um really i didn't know that yeah emma goldman yeah she was directly over he saw her the the murderer of mckinley saw her as almost a a priestess godlike

00:34:42 - 00:34:48 | Speaker 1:

figure um so that's the occult thing that's the oh my god dude yeah it was actually popping up

00:34:48 - 00:35:19 | Speaker 2:

bertrand russell who was then heading the neo-malthusian league which she was also a member of is the one who guaranteed her passage from the united states into england um at right after she had her run-ins. the with the law after mckinley's death which she was even saying was like uh some there's some some uh messaging that she put out saying that this was like a boost for peace in the world or something and she encouraged the uh this this assassin even after he was caught saying he he

00:35:19 - 00:35:36 | Speaker 1:

did well or something so what is it oh so that oh so that's your wow all these wind-up toys they've had him for a while so so andrew jackson could be a fake john wilkes booth that's another one too right like he's an actor that's a dead giveaway right well already yeah that puts your mindset

00:35:36 - 00:35:46 | Speaker 2:

in a place where you're more easily put into an altered state you're more easy to yeah to put into some other other person's imaginary shoes as part of the brainwashing um have you seen any any

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evidence about mary todd lincoln being a collins and uh lincoln uh abraham lincoln being a roth

00:35:51 - 00:38:23 | Speaker 2:

child or is that like uh i think it's i i think that's more part of the i think that's that's a bit psyopi um yeah i don't think that that's i think they're legit i think lincoln's like a legit human being like a real mensch um which is why he had to get off in the in the mind of his enemies um but when i again i i have a chapter of this in one of my books on the clash into america is where canada plays a directing role in the murder of lincoln and the confederate operations are big in canada actually i'm looking for my book right now it's called oh yeah dude no canada is so bad so the britic because it's it's a british it's a british it's not a real country and the british gave guarantees for the confederates to set up their intelligence uh headquarters in montreal and toronto and kingston and during the entirety of the cold war sorry the cold the civil war um operations were being run in terms of like banking warfare from the canadian banks against lincoln um terrorism like the albany raids and other things were being launched from the confederate bases in montreal and john wilkes booth even described i think to a letter to a relative how he spent five weeks in montreal where you had the saint lawrence hall which is still there in montreal um where he that was the confederate headquarters so were jesuits in that too jesuits were all over montreal jesuits run yeah so the he describes this five-week period as having been um something he could barely remember that he this was like six months before he goes down to kill no less than that uh i forget how many like three four months before he goes down to kill lincoln he's up here in canada where there are a number of these these cults as well up here but they're less well documented because canada's always been under a much more strong centralized control of the british empire the city of london than america which at different times had more liberty movements that broke away and guaranteed that certain things could be written or certain letters would not be destroyed, which was not the case in Canada where because of the control by the British, everything, evidence has been wiped. It's so much more difficult for a historian to do work. Like we had the National Archives up until the 1850s in Montreal. All of the written records, the correspondences of everything that had happened from like the 1730s up until that moment were all located in there the all the important stuff burnt to the ground so they just continuously just destroy evidence so it makes it very very they can create their own myths their own national stories more readily so again you think that's

00:38:23 - 00:38:26 | Speaker 1:

why that tartaria she gets pushed around so much that's another one that looks like it's

00:38:27 - 00:39:00 | Speaker 2:

yeah i think it's some cooked up to well yeah i mean they they take they take legitimately anomalous pieces of information that standard model explanations of things don't account for and then they'll take those those true points those data points and then absorb it and repackage it in a crazy ass flat earth or something that makes it a cartoonish caricature that dismantles anybody who even wants to go in and seriously treat those anomalous uh details um in any way

00:39:00 - 00:39:05 | Speaker 1:

and i think yeah well if i traumatize you the right way that'll ring real true to you right

00:39:05 - 00:39:15 | Speaker 2:

well i i think the chicago world's fair is a big one that that plays into the tartaria early on with the early tartaria models they were already working with that guy the guy who came up with i

00:39:15 - 00:39:19 | Speaker 1:

think renounced it they all turned on him because he was talking about world's fair shake right is

00:39:19 - 00:39:37 | Speaker 2:

that the what i don't know about the particular guy i just know that that's ubiquitous in all of the narratives that that's what they were covering up at the world because you see these pictures of the world's fair and you know there's a lot of high technology it seems like so they're like oh that was actually not something created by humans or whatever that was already there in this uh

00:39:37 - 00:39:47 | Speaker 1:

cartaria global you know civilization well that's like not doing a lot of other research to just go to that that's like you must have not looked at like 20 other things that you should have looked

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into to just jump on that well i think that the the reason why they tend to do that though is because it is such an important moment where that was i think a religious takeover by the theosophists of the U S culture was that world's fair because that also

00:40:00 - 00:40:12 | Speaker 1:

accompanied the the world parliament of religions at that same fair at same moment in time which was a a psycho spiritual coup d'etat by the occultists that um they don't want us to look at that side

00:40:12 - 00:41:25 | Speaker 2:

of it so reagan was a fucking theosophist by the way i knew he was getting seances in the white house with uh nancy yeah all the presidential families they're all fucking stupid new age theosis but unlike you know the morons who are into it here they're they're not getting the dumb kind of horoscope that uh that you would get in your paper or something and they're not getting the fake horoscope computers they handed out to third world leaders to give them phony predictions you know about that story right the cia made those yeah horoscope computers yeah they get the ones from whoever's handing them down where it's like a statistical science at this point as uh joseph p farrell puts it they they have stuff like that you just don't get to know you get you get so trump for example like what is he auditioning for right now to be because on truth social do you ever read truth any of his truths that's what they call it on truth i mean i see the posts that go around yeah um so he healed you know he's uh that's what that last week's ai that was up mistakenly was making fun of is him as jesus putting laying hands on someone and he goes no i thought it was just a red cross oh yeah yeah it was actually like a

00:41:25 - 00:41:48 | Speaker 1:

alien magic or something right yeah what the somebody was pulling was was passing around the images of the the tarot card of the sorcerer um at which it was garbed exactly the way that his ai uh painting was garbed or i don't know if it's an ai painting or what but it looked kind of similar with the inverted pentagram and and what have you these signals to tomorrow night a type

00:41:48 - 00:42:41 | Speaker 2:

uh charles get outs because i i thought this before that kid with the hair lip that they're not looking into this is why i think trump's an accomplice to his own which i didn't believe at the time because i'm like a guy got really killed and i don't think it's hard to believe that the other side wanted to kill trump it sounded like they did right yeah but then when trump doesn't want to investigate any further that's when i feel like i know i would look into that a lot more if i was trump i would just move on with it to war with iran for no reason yeah then i found out from dr either lynn that the ear thing is some ceremony to say you're a willing servant of israel in either i don't know if it's the torah or the talmud oh charlie kirk got hit so his nefesh could spray out of his neck that explains now the feet kicking out of the wind kosher slaughter and so trump's in that kabod cult he's some kind of new money i'm guessing he's not one of these bloodlines from western europe because you can see they don't like him i don't know which one but you could see that he's

00:42:41 - 00:43:43 | Speaker 1:

allied himself okay so there is um who's named kirill dimitriyev who's a bit of a weird character on the russian side of things the official kremlin spokesperson to do uh to engage with the united states uh kirill dimitri is a fishy character i i don't trust him at all uh he's got stanford connections too when he was young um and a strange scholarship into the united states in the 80s that i think put him through an experience that i really don't trust the same type of thing that was going through peter thiel's world at the same period yeah what is peter i assume he's some kind of templar yeah that's a whole thing unto itself right but yeah we could we could talk about that this guy put out a tweet um carol dimitriev about trump uh saying that trump actually has the he's from the descendant through his mother's line of robert the bruce and uh well that's not good um not just robert the bruce who's the guy that gave protection to the templars after they went underground group but then also um i forget which i think it's a plantage net uh king plantagen oh

00:43:43 - 00:44:42 | Speaker 2:

so dude i gotta say so that's them trumpeting this that's where they get the little glimpse of what the real countries are you know and like is that because he's laying claim to all this and they're all and i do we're not writing for shows in new york for example i remember people all kinds of people in production stuff and they're people from like pretty wealth they all look to him like he's not a real billionaire and i'm like okay let's say he's a 900 000 900 millionaire like who gives a why are they so but that's because he that's his little pushy bloodline thing right and he's got a trumpet that he is related that's why when he talks about his daughter i bet and people go oh he wants to have sex with his daughter no it's a eugenics statement look how great my genetics are right it's not like they're all about this and so he's fighting for this golden age i don't know are we not going to do the techno satanists we're going to go back to organic molestation i guess what's the idea yeah i it's you know i i for the longest time

00:44:42 - 00:45:07 | Speaker 1:

i want to give him the benefit of the doubt that you know he's yeah you know maybe he doesn't he's not aware or he's he's he's aware uh yeah i know i'm saying like the mindset we were formerly in as yeah i was trying to say like he's not people say he's demented all the time now i go that okay

00:45:00 - 00:45:10 | Speaker 2:

somebody's doing something to him yeah okay because he sounds it's always like isolation and retarded talk and he knew how shit worked just before he went in yeah you know like the fact that

00:45:10 - 00:47:14 | Speaker 1:

he was vetted to buy up resorts international uh which has always been a cia front going back to the earliest days of the cold war um back in the 80s yeah like that's not any that's not just anybody who's allowed to do that yeah you have to be quite highly vetted and trusted if you're going to be permitted to buy this massive super important cia front agency that's been used to basically organize all of the international uh syndicates and what have you right so there's always been and i'm still thinking i was still thinking for a while that okay maybe he was playing the game had you know as we've seen some cases throughout history of people who were able to play the game play dumb play and then act on their conscience when the moment arose me but things add up that make it more and more unpalatable dead bodies for one i say the piling dead well also his choices too like you know you've seen the movie uh devil's advocate with uh ken reeves and uh uh uh what's his name pacino yeah playing the devil um he actually allowed his his apartment the apartment where you have the real estate the billionaire real estate magnate of new york who carries out this horrendous uh multi-murder of like three people including a child um the apartment that that guy lives in is trump's apartment that's the i don't know if that's the address i just know that that that was the the famous apartment that he currently lives in so it wouldn't be 666 because they i think they sold that um black rock helped do that deal yeah but it's like this apollonian massive gold gilded apartment that's that's the same location he gave permission for that dude who was protected by the devil to uh to live in in the film and for me it's like home alone too i get it that was like a fun movie you could do a cameo appearance i i that's cool but of all the movies out there that that's the particular movie you give uh permission to participate and help help build with a model a mock-up of yourself as an archetypical character um living in your house who did this murder we

00:47:14 - 00:47:58 | Speaker 2:

to prove you're qualified for various jobs you know you know yeah there's a very small insulated cult and the thing of uh marjorie taylor green when she was you know he yelled at her it'll harm my friends like let's say trump didn't do a pizza party like the rest of them let's just give them a benefit of the doubt with that um yeah you're worse you're protecting these you don't do that stuff and you're protecting the lizard things that do and i i mean that metaphorically or real i don't even know because i don't know who it's so bizarre now where where i don't know how people are um have moved on to the degree they have after the pizza and beef jerky thing there's no rational way out of it unless you're a liar or an idiot yeah a lot of

00:47:58 - 00:48:21 | Speaker 1:

people were it was like a make or break test for them to see okay if he does what he promises that he'll do okay we'll we'll continue our our faith our trust or support for him but if he doesn't that's it that's over we know what these colors are and how many of those people continue to do logical backflips to justify why he has to keep it secret or whatever well he's tanking his little

00:48:21 - 00:48:33 | Speaker 2:

coalition he only only the whales in the uh you know yeah the your moron jeremy from the quartering types who are who have no uh they have no nothing they're just like a little small cuckold line

00:48:33 - 00:48:57 | Speaker 1:

people you know yeah i know it's true but it's still disappointing though because they're like like there's even rationalizations among sort of the the the q hopium uh extremists who are of the view that even jeffrey epstein now was actually a white hat you know working to where do you see that or it's it's out there i i see it yeah well just the concept of a white hat just if you just

00:48:57 - 00:49:11 | Speaker 2:

think there's white and black hats and anything you're you're in the matrix motherfucker that's the whole idea is the checker the masonic checkerboards there for a reason you ain't getting out so oh the white hats are gonna move for the black hats there there is like i i do believe

00:49:11 - 00:49:21 | Speaker 1:

like as i mentioned as a canadian realizing that america is not this one-dimensional evil thing that i thought it was there has been these bursts of of of human beings being real mensch like

00:49:21 - 00:49:34 | Speaker 2:

actually fighting to revive this will you explain that ground so i i i was never even into a ground poe but you say he was some kind of guy fighting uh and then his biography of like he's gloomy gus

00:49:34 - 00:51:10 | Speaker 1:

or whatever is written by some guy who hates him yes that's okay yeah you want to talk oh i oh my wife myself and our friend david goslin um recently made a documentary uh which is available for free now we took off the paywall and it's called edgar allen poe's final mystery a tale of two murders and it's based upon the the work actually from this book here um that i published a couple years ago called uh revenge of the mystery cults volume three and um Thank you. basically yeah i he plays an important role in understanding how what were the what were the points of resistance that the rosicrucians and the black magicians had to face in infiltrating and building up their occult fifth column in america during the 19th century and he was actually as i go through in in the book and in the film um tied to not just the society of Cincinnati, which was a counterintelligence, an American intelligence organization built up by Washington and Hamilton and a few others after the War of Independence. His grandfather was the quartermaster general for Washington's armies in the war, but he was trained by some very, very high quality minds who brought him into a conspiracy to basically fight and expose in the of cultural warfare uh this whole thing and if you re view a lot of his short stories and even some of his poems with this lens on including his poem or his his poem prose eureka his thoughts on the metaphysical and physical uh universe and uh i've never seen any of that i've only seen the

00:51:10 - 00:51:14 | Speaker 2:

ones you see in the children's illustrated classics yeah no there's a lot that are just

00:51:14 - 00:51:35 | Speaker 1:

not even included in his collected works because they don't want you to see the real poem what yeah um but he was he was certainly battling this this thing in a along with people like james fenimore cooper who was writing a short story or actually long stories called the bravo showcasing the role of venetian intelligence in infiltrating and carrying out assassination

00:51:35 - 00:51:58 | Speaker 2:

programs that's i've only read mark twain trashing his um uh last mohicans character uh you know the guy that uh dan j lewis played in the movie i forget what the character's name is yeah mark 20's got a whole essay about his ridiculous action hero james and emerald cooper and i remember in like world that class he was portrayed as like a hack yeah no i never heard of these other things

00:51:58 - 00:52:18 | Speaker 1:

you're talking about yeah there's a bunch of his lesser known but he thought the most important works that he was doing because he was trying to culturally educate the the citizenry to understand the nature of evil through the medium of fiction because that's the best way to do it you can't just be didactic and tell people hey wake up stop you know being a being a soft-minded

00:52:18 - 00:52:25 | Speaker 2:

jackass which is really don't take it they take it no but fiction can make us worse art can make

00:52:25 - 00:53:18 | Speaker 1:

us worse or it can make us better depending on the the intention and wisdom of the of the artist and so these guys were definitely not i won't say encoding but embedding core lessons about political realities that people were living in about human nature what causes us to self-destruct how do the how does the the the enemies of civilization act upon our weaknesses in order to get us to be the worst part of ourselves which is what he was doing in a lot of his explorations of the nature of of basically evil psychodynamic split personality issues um and even what he's doing in in the gold bug still perplexes many crypto cryptographers today where he showed what is the gold bug again i kind of remember that but not fully it's a story where where poe encodes and he basically puts it out as a challenge for his readers to decode uh certain messages in a short in a piece of so-called fiction um that is also making certain

00:53:18 - 00:53:23 | Speaker 2:

satirical he's doing a cicada thing of his own in a healthy way yeah because his are actually

00:53:24 - 00:55:56 | Speaker 1:

he wants everybody to figure it out and he's trying to give people the techniques by which they can do it um but in the in the case of the film what i do not just go i don't just break down a whole bunch of his stories and showcase what what's happening in the in the real world that these stories are are embedding but also one of his allies who's this girl named mary rogers um ends up getting brutally murdered in a ritual murder in a place called sibyl's cave in hoboken new jersey it's still there today it's got a gothic sort of entrance to it and it's a uh right in the in the in an area um you know in a private property um under the stevens technical institute uh the stevens family colonel stevens was the founder of this this dynasty and built up this this weird it seems like a kind of like a hellfire club um operation in just outside of new york and it was a popular tourist spot and this girl who worked as an um an informant within new york at a certain um hot spot that was very very where you had um at the cigar lounge in new York where this this girl worked it's where you had all of the the intelligence operations journalists everybody was was going through the cigar lounge and she was working with Poe she's also working with Cooper they would frequent this place and get information from her but she ends up going on she she disappears for a few days they find her body completely mutilated outside of this cave and he writes a short story his second tale of ratiocination called the murder mary roger which fictionally takes place in france but he says in the opening remarks this is about what happened in new york and it was like in all of the press was the the murder of this girl and so that caused me to ask like the question in my mind like what is sybill's cave like why is it even there what does that even mean and wait up sabelle like kybell or kyblee or i was going to kively i think it's the same pronunciation but it's a different different spelling so this is the sybil that's more broad of s-y-b-i-l s yeah i think s-i-b-y-l or i don't know yeah maybe s-y-b-i-l um but which is more broad for the term of of the oracles the the high priestess oracles that would be channelers of the ancient times and there were uh 11 dominant sibels or sybils of the ancient world the kumayan the appening was one of them um the the the symbol at delphi at the cult of apollo was another one that's where they drug up some girl and then

00:55:56 - 00:56:00 | Speaker 2:

they go tell they use her like a ouija board yeah yeah exactly and they have sex with her the high

00:56:00 - 00:56:04 | Speaker 1:

priests have sex with her and then they interpret what her utterings say when she's that's why they

00:56:04 - 00:56:36 | Speaker 2:

are doing that the kids in these programs is because they're duplicating that yeah because it turns out traumatizing the very because kids have wonderful imaginations that you can traumatize to the point of unbelievable things that like i i wouldn't even talk about on the show because it'll just like ruin like it they're so bad it ruins even talking further about the story like if you were writing a story you would cut that out because you're like there's no need for that like this is like what are you like a 12 year old trying to make me sick yeah it's that

00:56:36 - 00:57:51 | Speaker 1:

right yeah exactly so it's it's um what i discovered in the course of my research of this thing and who this family was and who mary rogers was who actually was tied to the mathers um she was a oh yeah she was actually a multi-generational um heir to the mathers dynasty which is i think part of the the curse that the witches i assume you mean jerry mathers the beaver no i'm joking yeah uh but i'll have to say um all that to say the the the cave first up that that she died at or the sybil's cave was directly given that name in honor of the Apennine Sybil in Italy which was the um it's a it's a it's it was an occult ritual center since the time of the Roman Empire several emperors would go to this particular Sybil to get forecasts of what they should do who they should go to war with and stuff um during the middle middle ages it was a hub for uh knights Templar and other Cathars that were getting prosecuted and they would go there a bunch of like monastic Franciscans were living in the caves in this in this mountain um it had a lake called the lake lacco pilato as a name in honor of pontius pilot which was also a sacred site for a cultist who wanted to celebrate the murder of jesus

00:57:51 - 00:58:24 | Speaker 2:

oh okay yeah that's a weird thing to honor pontius pilot like i i you know i've heard of uh metha reynolds is talking about a judas coin that his fucking family supposedly had one of them one of them silver drachmas right which i don't even know if it's a genuine one but if it's a real silver coin that's from that time and you got that level of belief in it i bet it does function as some sort of thing for you but but the the uh the thing of pontius pilate that sounds very like roman venetian like because they always kind of put it like he's the guy didn't want to have to

00:58:24 - 00:59:04 | Speaker 1:

do this like he washed his hands of it right i think we're giving orders from the top as well i don't think it was just the jews saying we want him dead i think it was also orders given from the the top of the roman uh high command giving you tiberius i think had a say in telling uh pilot what to do and tiberius we know was carrying out weird hedonistic sex orgies that's right sacrifice on the isle of capri that was like his his famous you know where he set up his his uh apollonian temples and stuff and was doing like really bad human sacrifice up there he's a total degenerate but also obedient to what was what was controlling rome at the time was the the committee

00:59:04 - 00:59:15 | Speaker 2:

of 15. and the committee you heard about that the committee of 15. yeah but okay keep going because okay because i i think i know where you're going with this but i wanted him good they're basically

00:59:15 - 00:59:22 | Speaker 1:

augers so uh an array of of augers from the aristocratic uh patrician family what's an auger

00:59:22 - 00:59:27 | Speaker 2:

i thought an auger drill holes in leather right that's the other auger now this is like the uh

00:59:27 - 00:59:31 | Speaker 1:

the seer the guy who like would cut open the the bird and let the blood guts flow and and

00:59:31 - 01:00:05 | Speaker 2:

this is the thing joseph there was talking about i can't remember what the structure is in rome but it's like copper and it would and so basically i'm the priest right and i got these guts that i dump on and it's a it's a media the guts are a medium for vibration like how we test for black holes with those lasers so i'm the priest i throw this on this copper thing that's connected all over the kingdom and i go and i'm the only one that can divine what the entrails are saying Because I'm watching the wobbles from a vibration because they created a. circuit with that copper shit uh uh it's on uh shit i don't remember which episode it is but uh

01:00:05 - 01:00:36 | Speaker 1:

just to be fair was talking about that okay yeah i i'll be curious to see what he says about that but i but what they would do so these augers in this case this committee of 15 would um they were the only ones vetted to interpret the sibling books and the sibling books were these um these oracles that were given by the uh i forget which of the sybils to a king king tarquin the last king of the the kingdom of rome back in the fifth century dc um and in the fifth century while

01:00:36 - 01:00:41 | Speaker 2:

they're supposedly christian they still have sybils no no no sorry fifth century bc like oh

01:00:41 - 01:01:38 | Speaker 1:

yeah yeah yeah and and uh this sybil um basically sells tarquin these books that are the transcribed utterings of the oracle at delphi uh the the apollonian oracle so there's somebody like went and wrote down all of the crypt encryptic um you know uh at at the at the the dawn of the new age three moons will rise and seven suns will set with three 13 hawks that will crow on the 12th minute of the 13th hour and so they just say these things that are infinitely interpretable and thus very useful if you're going to be a bullshit artist who wants to give people manipulative uh suggestions of what they should do on how you read and interpret those things so they were transcribing these books apparently the the tarquin the king didn't want to buy them and she was like you know what you want to haggle with me let me just burn them for you as a big you um and he was like no no no stop but she already burnt like night night or uh was it seven of them so there are three not

01:01:38 - 01:01:44 | Speaker 2:

burnt she's a crazy other so they're all bullshits that don't matter that yeah so he took these three

01:01:44 - 01:01:49 | Speaker 1:

books and these three books became the determining variable of every major decision that rome took

01:01:49 - 01:02:00 | Speaker 2:

from that moment onwards um this sounds like the cia giving horoscope computers to these countries same thing it's totally there's like one scam or something dude there's not can we have two scams

01:02:00 - 01:03:08 | Speaker 1:

all right guys well it's like yeah you're right and it's like these spiritualists being sent in and deployed with their teams to go into white houses like so many presidents that even the the prime minister of canada willy mine mckenzie uh king was prolific for getting advice from oracles in the parliament building in canada in the 1920s and 30s and 40s telling him do i do i go to war or do i make peace with with the united states what what should i do mom mom who's been dead for like 20 years um but they love mother about it yeah yeah oh yeah huge but and they've been doing that with these spiritualists uh going back like you said it's the same techniques of the ancient worlds and that's what was determining rome's policies i think when tarco and commanded or gave the order to execute uh jesus at that time it was probably he was told to do that from the sibling books or the the oracles and that committee of 15 they're also the ones who uh were behind nero's clampdown later on with a with the burning down of rome blamed on the terrorist christians that was then used to then launch prosecutions that was the sibling oracles that were the ones that said no that christianity is now an illegal cult that's what the sybil that's

01:03:08 - 01:03:14 | Speaker 2:

the god of apollo wants us to do is oh apollo oh boy yeah you know well apollo is a solar deity

01:03:14 - 01:03:19 | Speaker 1:

right he's up there with like he's a prototype for lucifer yeah well i heard he's dead he ain't up

01:03:19 - 01:03:58 | Speaker 2:

there he's somewhere real bad and uh i i've heard like the craziest shit about apollo because it keeps coming up and then you get creeped out because you think of like you know conrad black and his paul apollo capital and uh all these things and you know just the olympics like why do we have that everybody's so offended that at a dionysian ritual that one year oh this is satanic why are you watching the olympics you're retard it's a eugenics festival to pagan gods you said you're not again you're not four so why are you even of course it's like that you look like an because you believe in the olympics and you're a christian a eugenics festival to the illuminati

01:03:58 - 01:04:05 | Speaker 1:

anyway uh uh wait wait there's a whole reason i brought it up uh i don't know

01:04:07 - 01:04:13 | Speaker 2:

because you told me that um what's his name before we started uh the oneida guy there was something

01:04:13 - 01:05:01 | Speaker 1:

involving the kai bell cult with attis okay that isn't that's very difficult to research but i have encountered claims that showcase that the Attis cult was infused into which is more of like a feminine cult versus let's say Mithra which is more of a masculine cult they always work together though and their temples are typically built together but the Sibel cult which was again very prevalent in ancient Rome came in from Anatolia it had a re-emergence with the cult of Isis it's sort of sister cult they do very similar things they have slightly different expressions um but this one to be a male um priest a member of the higher priesthood within the sibyl cult requires that you basically

01:05:00 - 01:05:40 | Speaker 2:

cut off your your i think i think all the trans shit now is making men into galleys of kively i've been saying for a while because when you see the kibo now i like the kai i don't know how you say a dumb name i'm gonna say kai because fuck that fat bitch but you see her on a throne with the two lions and it's a big blobby lady and there's so much research into how this is some vicious you know if you want to say it's a demigod or some big fat bitch that was molesting her son and then had programmed so well when he got married he de-balled himself but I've seen several stories of it they're all crazy, all of them are absolutely crazy as I understand it Rome brought this worship in to defeat Hannibal or something, am I close on that? Yes

01:05:40 - 01:06:19 | Speaker 1:

That was the Sibelian Oracles, the Committee of 15 told Rome during the Second Punic War in around 204 that if you want to defeat Hannibal who's like making some serious headway and you're probably going to lose the war at that moment against carthage then you have to the the apollo wants you to go and ask the sibel uh priesthood which is then based in around today's turkey to come in and rebrand rebrand herself in a roman garb and under the protection of the roman flag and then he will grant his favors on you and you will be victorious and they did it they basically set up we're doing that we've

01:06:19 - 01:06:23 | Speaker 2:

done that now that that i'll bet you they brought that in as a thing for war reasons in their

01:06:23 - 01:07:15 | Speaker 1:

fucking demented heads you know it's it's hard to get into that mindset right but like i know in the case of rome the roman pop it didn't last too long like there was a big backlash after like 20 years or so because does that sound familiar to you yeah they're like wait a minute all of our young men are cutting off their penises in order to like go into the altered states and all the women are becoming horse going to like sacred orgies and stuff and so they the roman population organized a mass revolt against it and forced the hand of the senate to shut down the cult and they had to kind of like go underground and then i think they were only they had their their next really official they always were there they didn't go away but no it's mary worship if you're a dumb ass catholic yeah pretty much it's it was rebrand yeah and and then it under caligula it got uh rebrand like not rebrand it had its new coming out party again after 200 years he's the best

01:07:15 - 01:09:05 | Speaker 2:

that guy oh and i like have you read dissipation of the darkness that mark windows from windows on the world put me on look up uh egyptian crowd controller pharaonic crowd control mark windows guy and i gotta have him back on and talk about it but it's free online in uh that archive you can get a book's dissipation of darkness a guy claiming what the origin of not freemasons the masons freemasons come back because of robert de bruce right and the roses cruises and uh okay the masons are herod agrippa the one that died from being eaten by worms and in this book now dude if i had looked at it a couple years ago or something i would be like what is this anti-semitism because basically christianity is spreading so quickly i i theorize it's just populism oh the the leaders are all scumbag pedophores i bet it did spread pretty quickly the ideas of christ i bet it were popular because if you got a majority of poor people and they've destroyed the middle glass i bet it's real popular so they couldn't confront it and they invented masonry it's some solomonic but here's the thing that made me believe it there's something to it um the guys he started with his eight friends so he's a good friend of caligula by the way harrod agrippa also into babylonian sigil magic as i found out from nathaniel gillis aka smart chain as my fans call and uh he uh they're called the nine you know the nine you ever hear of them they call themselves the nine and hiram abiff was his friend hiram abuel who was killed by wild dogs because that was a thing that happened back then and as a tribute so it's like a frat dude of perverts made this thing in the story again i wouldn't even had i not heard so much creepy about the nine in i mean you see that pop up everywhere up the star trek do you ever see this book uh the

01:09:05 - 01:09:30 | Speaker 1:

stargate conspiracy no it's all about the yeah lynn picnic and uh clive prince it's from the 90s but yeah the whole thing it's the best dive on the nine that i've ever seen rooting it into she doesn't go into agrippa though that's an angle i didn't know about i've never heard of it windows on the world great channel mark windows well this one goes into like alice bailey and alistair crowley and the the hermetic order the golden dawn and that's why they're all lurianic kabbalah

01:09:30 - 01:09:40 | Speaker 2:

babylonian black magician and that's and then i don't know how far back that goes and then if you want to say atlantis but i don't because i don't like to be gay but they go back far they go back

01:09:40 - 01:10:04 | Speaker 1:

far and they like controlling the myths about their origins because i think yeah they want to create a myth that will justify their their self-identification as a higher species endowed by some higher power to uh stay above morality above the type of laws that are supposed to to govern the slave class as a different almost species that they want to they want to believe that those that they dominate over as masters are a different species well if i eat

01:10:04 - 01:10:09 | Speaker 2:

you you're not one of my natural law yeah i'm not a cannibal you're just not human exactly yeah

01:10:09 - 01:10:31 | Speaker 1:

yeah right exactly yeah it's all it's all mindset right um yeah and that's what they do when they when they in in war propaganda as well you didn't you dehumanize the other side and you make the the germans seem like they're the the these ogres hunters right and cone-headed hun coming together and so it you're not killing a human you're killing an evil hun baboon killer of babies

01:10:31 - 01:11:20 | Speaker 2:

right in rapist on jimmy dore and tim dylan also made fun of this because they had a zen buddhist israeli telling the idf because if you know this the idf aren't really good at anything so blowing up women and children with we give them they're not really good fighters so krav maga has never worked sorry everyone you could stab someone with a pen i guess that's i thought martial arts anyway uh it's a buddhist hey young prince uh just pull the trip it was one of the sickest and and even though i don't like zlava of zizek that you know tweeting sylvester voice slovenian uh new world order he had a great point making fun of it because buddhism is like it's not that you're not going to murder people it's just that like there was no other way it could have happened if your head happened to go into my sword that's uh you know i just got to

01:11:20 - 01:11:42 | Speaker 1:

be kind of uh like it's like spiritual yeah you can't allow yourself to be emotionally or uh uh invested in what you're doing although you're lying to yourself because if you're already like going to be killing somebody it means that there's some emotional connection to your actions that's that you might be in denial of but if you can convince yourself that you're not and that you're like perfectly zen there's no repercussions to your karma or whatever i've had a life of hard

01:11:42 - 01:13:51 | Speaker 2:

farm work it's like killing a chicken to me it's so easy to figure out people's little perversion like to pervert them to your will and they've done it for years now and um at this point though dude i mean like i don't think it's all uh no they they come from something and and they get to commune with something that wants new bodies because that's what this transhuman is something there's some things that have bodies some things that don't but a lot of them want new ones they're not happy with the ones they got and we're gonna 3d print them do you remember uh the guy from uh what do you call it cambrian genomic i bring up because it's on the control all history channel and i'd forgotten about it to my friend annie hunt had made this video from 2014 you were going to get to use crisper to 3d print your own monsters you make up on your computer that's what they were promising do you remember that no well i forgot it and but here's how i had heard of it not that that part sounds like really you're gonna let people do that the the reason it became controversial was because lindy west the famous in the in the comedy grape joke wars of 2011 some fat seattle bitch who like they made a show on her dumb fat life and now i guess she would it soothed her feminism she had written an article about this guy's company now and and to her credit the guy had taken some woman would had done some genetic gene therapy breakthrough and he said he was going to use it to mark it to make your not smell i swear to god i swear to god this is a thing if you look it up you're like and uh so you know it was a good like um clickbait thing for a feminist rag to publish right oh what are you saying women's stink and they got to use gene editing so that's the least of what they were talking about anyway sadly the dude ended up hanging himself when you know it and we've never heard about the technology ever again yeah then go back and look at all the clone you know i'm not like a guy that's like uh you know you know you've seen clone where people like this is a clone that's a clone but when you find out the only reason that we don't we don't do that is because it's not ethical

01:13:51 - 01:13:56 | Speaker 1:

not because it's clearly been done for a long time so now you just proved to me that they've

01:13:56 - 01:14:11 | Speaker 2:

done it a lot that's all you've proven to me when you tell me the only barrier is ethics just really like everyone sit and think about that for a minute yeah you don't think it's so you know i gotta look into it but i people are a little clone happy pointing out well again i think that

01:14:11 - 01:14:43 | Speaker 1:

that's why the the over extremist uh narratives about clones are so prevalent in in anybody who's off the beaten path in their analysis you quickly encounter everybody's a clone they've got net netflix movies as well promoting this this sort of thing and and i forgot the name of the the clone tyrone yeah they call tyrone that's right yeah yeah it was a great movie but yeah they're like putting they're blasting it out into the zeitgeist because they're trying to uh contaminate an otherwise legit inquiry over like yeah like how has this been going down there's one this is why

01:14:43 - 01:15:01 | Speaker 2:

i don't understand you were the first people i ever saw because i'm not a good researcher or uh uh i think that's smart i it's just literally like i could see a pattern if you keep doing the same thing to me so but you have done so much research i'm like oh we're like

01:15:00 - 01:15:15 | Speaker 1:

a thing i suspected you actually found you actually found all this shit and and you can see it's a repeated mystery school this is well mystery school is kind of modern but mystery religion yeah and it's like i just i'm not going to tell you what you believe until you're way too

01:15:15 - 01:15:40 | Speaker 2:

deep in it i mean it's that's the scam yeah that's intel i'm yeah by the time you you find out what it is you've already fragmented your prop your your personality your psychology has already been broken you've you've internalized the darkness inside of you you've made it you've made this internal darkness in your subconscious a thing that you've been battled and inter and and sucked embraced back into you to shed your old self completely as you die and are reborn often with

01:15:40 - 01:15:52 | Speaker 1:

the the help that's the process church so the process church that people make out like it's something that died out and this and that no that as soon as i heard about this stupid process church i'm like i've heard a thousand versions of this fucking thing and before you know it you're like

01:15:52 - 01:16:01 | Speaker 2:

you know you're carrying out you're helping out you know some zodiac killer fucking mass ritual and you're like how did that happen you know you your old self before you got into it wouldn't

01:16:01 - 01:17:04 | Speaker 1:

have imagined that within months or whatever you would know i don't do i don't do my homework like i like how you have but i cheat by there's a bunch of victims of this shit that are just that will just tell you what happened to them and all you got to do i don't believe nobody i just want to hear the thing and not be bored here's my two criteria i want you to not make me bored and i to hear so tell me a new story okay imagine i'm some kind of creature chained in the pit you read about in whatever dumb you believe and i want something new because i'm bored so that's all i do and then later i'll believe it because it'll resonate with 20 other things that i just remembered because they made an impression on me right like if you upset me or make me laugh i'm going to remember it not because i'm like bitter about it but just it's an emotional that's why why they do that shit to kids it's the most effective you know that's why william mesmer was was uh mozart's and anton mesmer yeah oh sorry anton mesmer that's right that's why he could write concertos at four or maybe kill a man i don't know they do a lot of crazy crazy shit

01:17:04 - 01:17:19 | Speaker 2:

for mind body definitely what's what's interesting what i what i like about um so the approach i tend to like look at is i got this hypothesis that this oligarchy which is so good at being pure evil um still has certain weak spots things that make them insecure and afraid that loosen

01:17:19 - 01:17:25 | Speaker 1:

their power over humanity well they all suck as one yeah well that's true objectively so but then

01:17:25 - 01:17:54 | Speaker 2:

that you can still suck and enjoy the power of like a godlike status if you if you so wanted but like the thing i've noticed is like why did people why did things that they want fail at different moments because sometimes they they're about to do something that they really want like anton mesmer had a whole program as part of a you know he's part of the the cagliostro cult um oh yes right yeah uh saint germain also is a part of this whole weird uh network that's okay so

01:17:54 - 01:18:06 | Speaker 1:

saint germain is there like 20 of them or something because why is it he pops up in shasta without his romanian accent he should have i mean is it you know is that like a zoro character he's being

01:18:06 - 01:18:29 | Speaker 2:

channeled into a guy who's maybe got a romanian accent uh i don't know if he's uh but but you know because that's that's the you're talking about the uh what's that name of the cult from the 30s the i am the i am cult right that that has seen to me he's everywhere he's part of the theosophical hidden master sort of pantheon um he does seem to be a real guy but they've mythologized and kind of like what they did to christian rosenkreutz right like it's almost

01:18:29 - 01:18:34 | Speaker 1:

it's very ephemeral it's christian rosekreutz there was an actual guy and they mythologize

01:18:34 - 01:19:31 | Speaker 2:

or it was a made-up opposite character right i think he's kind of like dr strangelove he's like is he william shakespeare is he kissinger is he he's a bit of everybody right and he's a synthesis but i think that the the character christian rose of course is similar to that um and i do think the same thing of this this other um this other figure um of what is christian let's do what does he actually do what is his alchemical mythos he was uh a young guy who had a vision um and then you know as a kid i forget the details he went to the middle east got treated trained by sufi adepts into the dark arts or whatever harry potter okay yeah okay yeah he's probably from a high bloodline harry potter yeah pretty much yeah and then he and then he created this movement to remake civilization anew um and had something like 12 i think it was 12 or maybe it was nine it might have been nine i gotta verify that oh it would be interesting if there were nine

01:19:31 - 01:20:00 | Speaker 1:

of depths a lot yeah i'm working on my own cult so this is good info for me yeah yeah yeah and i stumble my nine derp disciples look the cult is a joke i'm going to tell you i'm from but wouldn't it be funny if you did give me money something to think about well something to test out all right anybody listening right now yeah i'm telling you it's a joke but how funny would it be if you did because i i'm telling you if you send me money i'm not going to be one of these assholes that that doesn't dress like the king of...

01:20:00 - 01:20:16 | Speaker 2:

thailand have you ever seen the king of thailand a lot of halted tops and gold crowns yeah dude have you ever seen how thailand operates it's one of the funniest things i've ever seen and it's illegal to make fun of it which i think is great it's called like like i got some respect from i

01:20:16 - 01:21:02 | Speaker 1:

it's it's a bit of it's a bit of jokes but i got some respect for how they've been able to keep themselves from from getting sucked into uh the cold war but anyway yeah how did they i have no idea they did they played it was part of the non-aligned movement operation that indira gandhi launched to really getting sucked into the well it's just indira god no she didn't launch it no it actually came before her it was uh um joan lai and um uh nehru um joral nehru and uh a bunch of other countries pretty much in the 50th tito from czechoslovakia really in the 50s they set up the online movement because they're all being uh pressured into getting absorbed into one of these manichaean sides in the light versus darkness game of cold war tito was like some super bad guy that

01:21:02 - 01:21:07 | Speaker 2:

was on the commie side or something or a fashion i don't remember what he was yeah definitely

01:21:07 - 01:22:09 | Speaker 1:

commie sympathies but he was like he was he was not wanting to play like he he wasn't playing the game of communist versus uh democrat or capitalism like a lower level game so he wanted to try to state you had to sometimes wear the the jacket in the real real politic love like one set or another but the actual like mindset of where a person was at was often not the better people were not picking sides one or the other um like kwami nakruma you know like the guy was often allied with the communists he was seen as a as an enemy to be overthrown by the cia but at the same time he was working with john f kennedy he was the best you know brought in as a guest he was enemy to be overthrown too again from montreal canada permadex corporation which is what mortimer bloomfield the guy ran permadex corporation as an international assassination operation that got yeah well it got it got kicked out of france by charles de gaulle because he his french intelligence caught permadex directly paying for two assassination attempts on de gaulle he survived 30 of them and he kicked them out of france as he kicked nato out of france at the same

01:22:09 - 01:22:21 | Speaker 2:

time and uh there were 30 attempts on de gaulle yeah you can google that yeah and is it now somebody told me but i've never looked into it that the castro attempts it's kind of an exaggeration

01:22:21 - 01:23:23 | Speaker 1:

for it might be an exaggeration but they definitely wanted to off castro when he kicked out united fruits and kicked out the marilansky syndicate um that definitely didn't play into the uh the blueprint the way some would have liked it to have played into so i think they they were obsessed with eliminating castro and getting united fruit back in there kind of like what they want to do again today because that was also cuba was a big confederate ambition right if you look at the like the albert pike operation of the uh the knights of the golden circle which john wilkes booth was also a member of they had they had a plan to create the empire of the golden circle once they once they were victorious in the civil war the idea was not just to remain 13 slave states it was to expand and they have they even published diagrams of this empire that would have its center in cuba and it would circle all the way through a big chunk of of south americas all of the caribbeans uh mexico was supposed to be under the control of napoleon bonaparte's uh grandnephew

01:23:23 - 01:23:39 | Speaker 2:

uh maximilian now do you think that has anything to do with that obsession of that zone around there that they all have and including gilane uh a citizen of terramar or earth sea yeah because that's where national geographic had those photos of them uh big pyramids that were never spoken of

01:23:39 - 01:23:47 | Speaker 1:

again except oh you're you need to i need to look more into that that's dark journalists watch dark

01:23:47 - 01:24:00 | Speaker 2:

journalists dude colonel sanders daughter and ernest emingway's brother it's so crazy but they're all obsessed with this section and so a lot of this has to do with atlanta's you know

01:24:00 - 01:24:48 | Speaker 1:

america's new atlantis and blah blah blah i could speak to it from the standpoint of like uh geopolitical motives or and and partially the the myth of empire had a lot to do i think with the uh island the island mythos like this is what the british empire used as like we are the the people of the sea we are of a higher um we have a higher destiny than the than the land-based people and so they they convert they they were using this mythology when they were engaging with the um the japanese to say together hey let's create an anglo-japanese alliance because and this is like 19th century stuff before world war one even um they're like look you are also destined as an island people to be the the overseers of that part of the world basically all of asia should be your slave colony

01:24:48 - 01:24:59 | Speaker 2:

just like the world is our colony and well they shouldn't have said that to them because to this day asians got a real bone to pick with the japanese for that yes yes it does there's a lot of

01:24:59 - 01:25:09 | Speaker 1:

but even now

01:25:00 - 01:25:19 | Speaker 2:

they're re-invoking that kind of like samurai warrior uh psychology that was also used to groom the the japanese fascist in the 20s and the 30s um they're kind of it's kind of been latent with a lot of resentment a lot of shame kind of like what they did they did to the germans but it's never been resolved and i think you've got like a reactivation of that being attempted right now

01:25:21 - 01:25:54 | Speaker 1:

the america's warrior ethos back pete heggseth who i think somebody took his top of his head off and did get out surgery yeah that movie with um that rumsfeld that's why he bro creams his hair you know his hair is never dry that piece of anyway they're gonna bring back our war remember when trump came in on cutting the military in half well we need to bring back our warrior ethos yeah oh am i gonna be a shamrock am i gonna be a weeb now that's great that's what they're all doing and that's for the golden age and there's actually dipshit fake christians that think this is in some

01:25:54 - 01:26:07 | Speaker 2:

way christian i know well they think i i did a i did a presentation on uh the crusades uh as a satanic ritual which is what i think the crusades were and i think the exact same thing

01:26:07 - 01:26:13 | Speaker 1:

i mean i didn't do the research i'm glad you did because well i mean satan is the satan does right

01:26:13 - 01:26:40 | Speaker 2:

yeah it's the proofs in the pudding it's in the action right and and uh and also you could there's a lot there's a lot to to back up that statement and the amount of hate i got from people who self-identified as as like christians was wild like they think there's been so much brainwashing and propaganda to convince uh especially christians that the most christian thing you could do is go off and kill people for jesus that's what he wants you to do well that's what you call trad

01:26:40 - 01:27:34 | Speaker 1:

cats see here's the thing i'm a huge homo and i want nothing to do with women like the great cecil roads and i really admire colonizing brown people and also i'm deeply sexually attracted to them even though i hate them and so i'm gonna be trad and i'm going to do the farm chore of impregnating a woman and having a baby as i should like that other fuente dipshit and uh there's a collection of dude william f buckley is like the prototype of these the repressed homo who's a deeply catholic and and you see them i mean dude in this day and age now i mean to be in the closet this day and age you're a dirty ass man i like you want some advantage over people that's the only reason you would do that now tell your mama to shut up i mean you can so no they they the term gay is a thing they made up yeah you know i mean all the everything is an action and not your identity

01:27:34 - 01:28:07 | Speaker 2:

so they seem to have these occultists they have their um they will take the same sort of thing that we see non-initiated people do like drug use uh rampant sex whatever else and they will look down upon it as an a profane disgusting thing if it's being done by the uninitiated but if you are if you if you're initiated and and you've got then it's sacred it's sacred orgies it's sacred drugs it's sacred theban warrior homosexual packs that you have with other members of your platoon

01:28:07 - 01:30:04 | Speaker 1:

they don't like unregulated uh unregulated uh you know whole they they like it to be completely regulated from top to bottom and some of these think that i had jay parker on his family's from delaware occult and they're in ardent delaware an artist colony that's a georgist tax cult whatever the that means but i think it's rosemont they serve they're the working class of the of the other occultists and their secret church was called the church of the marquee of hell oh rose valley so rose valley is where the rich ones are okay so probably some duponts uh whatever joe biden did something there oh pennsylvania yeah rosemont pennsylvania ardent delaware and watch the pbs thing it's one of the grossest things when you know about the kind of shit that goes on there buzz ware whose mother was the head of the american communist party in the 60s and 70s uh jay parker describes the stuff he describes as crazy i mean it's the worst abuse you ever heard also he saw he says he saw buzz ware turn a little bit reptilian and his mother and father his father said he was a ninth generation atlantean warlock whatever the fuck that means uh and he would lament not having enough genetic corruption to be able to shift his mother claimed to be an amalekite witch and she had they would tell him the bible story of you know saul's supposed to kill the amalekites but he doesn't and uh their family supposedly saw this was happening and escaped somewhere and that's their story now that could all be fake the story not what i because it's fully possible that let's say in the year uh shit i don't know let's say a random 1500 i make up a scam about i'm an amalekite you're an amalekite we have a gross pedo cult and it's a very successful mafia you know these things that claim to go back real far i suspect and i don't doubt that they talk to some entity but i think they get nigerian print scammed because they don't know what the they're doing well they

01:30:04 - 01:30:21 | Speaker 2:

like creating the mythos of being ancient it gives them more credence and more credibility if they can make a myth that they're doing something super super ancient but no i think you're right it's oftentimes the origins of even like kabbalah and its modern incarnation the zohar they're like oh it's so ancient it's like what is 13th century it's it's not that ancient honestly

01:30:21 - 01:31:40 | Speaker 1:

or the hermetic well that specific brand it's like a new you know so my relatives are in harry krishna which is very anglo designed you know all these theosophists i'm sure i i i bet you i'm right and i'm just going to throw this out what i think it is because i haven't gone on a deep dive on it but i know tulsi gabbard's in an offshoot of harry krishna cult and i think it's something more anglo just like all the other religions where um they want to bring the wisdom of the east and theosophically have a new control system because you can't have a one world government if some of us believe in our religions from before and we need to really break down the thing getting in the way of our new atlantis that keeps getting destroyed right as is you having beliefs that aren't in line with my beehive idea i want to have that's why the mormons got that beehive and they preach obedience everybody's trying to come up with the perfect system of control and that's what all these stupid oneida and all these things i need people so problem christianity is this if you are a christian you're not going to go kill nobody for your country sorry to tell everybody that's directly opposite of what jesus preached but around the time it gets appropriated by the government and made into mithraism because purge already successfully i guess did this where they appropriate the troublesome thing and there's already been a model for for for them to follow in

01:31:40 - 01:31:47 | Speaker 2:

rome when they do it i think constantine thought he was the son constantine himself was uh an

01:31:47 - 01:32:22 | Speaker 1:

initiative mithra yeah so is it mitra so what me there's a mitra and a mithra and one of them's a real not real but a god from the area and then one's like a westernized version of it cult is what i thought am i am i remotely accurate about that i only know of mithra um i don't know about so the one in rome demitra that's almost like a theosophy version of mitra worship is what as i i understand it that's been brought over i mean well i yeah i mean it's you're with these syncretic

01:32:22 - 01:32:33 | Speaker 2:

things they're very fluid right um but like you know they're big in matreya too right like this idea of we're all gonna incarnate or have the avatar become the avatars of matreya and maybe

01:32:33 - 01:32:43 | Speaker 1:

it's not one person who's the uh the i'm gonna have a christ consciousness which like what the fuck does that even mean but you like yeah i'm the kurt consciousness everyone yeah what the

01:32:43 - 01:33:35 | Speaker 2:

fuck does that mean but so it's it's an ambiguous idea that's designed to i guess create like this fantasy that you're gonna like live into but um matreya does seem to have some roots in mithra because they both go back to india before they even went to persia so before it went to persia it was in india in a form we don't even know how to like what it looked like necessarily it's it's very ephemeral but um it was the roman version that we know of of the guy you know with the phrygene cap killing the bull with the snake and the dog uh biting the bull looking over at helios and away from luna that's like the typical image that we see in the mitraims that have been discovered all over like you know africa or north africa and the middle east and europe there's like 500 that have been discovered right and they're often so they have this image that was repackaged that's only found in the roman variants we don't know what like that's where

01:33:35 - 01:33:49 | Speaker 1:

i'm getting that from yeah and it's like a repack i mean we see it here there's the buddhism i mean whatever karma all these things when they make it to the west they're a completely repackaged thing they're they're almost how like how red bulls got more sugar than you look at your target audience

01:33:49 - 01:34:37 | Speaker 2:

and you're like how am i going to market my products to that target audience i can't sell coca-cola the way i would to a new yorker as i would to let somebody living in texas or or in you know zimbabwe i might use a different kind of marketing or branding uh might make santa claus look like a black guy maybe if if i was going to market it to africa or something you know um but they do the same thing for these these religious engineering cults as well um i didn't get at the question of of uh atis and it's just to say on the confederates it seems like and albert pike writes extensively about the cults of mithra atis and sybel orpheus i gotta read his actual shit and it's actually way more useful than i realized i i got an original copy from 1880s uh that i mean which one uh morals and dogma sorry oh that's all yeah yeah i i keep meaning to

01:34:37 - 01:34:42 | Speaker 1:

like read i'm in i'm like i got like three it's heavy it's a book and you you know you scan over

01:34:42 - 01:34:59 | Speaker 2:

like i i look at the digital copy and i do the control f so i just find the things that i'm looking for he's like does he talk about mithra let's let's do the control f and see all and then i'll read those areas of the book to save time um i know it's not the best way but you know if you're going to get anything done well he's going to layer all this allegory

01:35:00 - 01:35:43 | Speaker 1:

bullshit i fucking hate allegories and i hate uh symbols now well i don't know if i hate it but you see i'm saying like just tell me the fucking thing asshole yeah i'm trying to get more money out of me yeah yeah yeah if i draw it out more like jj abrams with lost and then the ending sucks ass that's what all they're all the same thing they're all the show lost right you get hooked with a mystery sandwich as the great l ron hubbard called it and then you keep tuning in and then people go hey i'll bet you didn't know where this was going when you made it up yeah i did yeah it's like a repeating fractal i don't know how else like all the research it looks like you're just researching the same thing over and over you know

01:35:44 - 01:36:01 | Speaker 2:

yeah well it's this is where i think that they really got pissed with at poe because poe was himself a very adept he's very adept at um the infinitesimal calculus at the leibnizian calculus he was he was proficient at these things under charles dupain the great leibniz is the one that

01:36:01 - 01:36:10 | Speaker 1:

they stole his and said newton did it newton was some fruit ball that drank his own pee yeah it was in his secret box that they hid for years of his secret teachings they're like oh my

01:36:10 - 01:39:05 | Speaker 2:

god it's all alchemy and kabbalah yeah um that's right yeah and so yeah leibniz was the guy he was like the grand strategist to try to like organize um resistance movements to this oligarchy and doing it very well this guy was like a brilliant mindset and uh and even today like most of his his works are not even translated or not even published they're still being kept in a vault in some university in germany that they won't let anybody see so his works are scary to the oligarchy they don't know uh but for what he had that is publicly available it's potent stuff um all that to say poe studied him he studied um at the ecolopoli technique he was there with many of their leader leading people like charles dupain who he used who was a real person um who made real breakthrough discoveries in physical space-time and quantum uh hypergeometries this guy Charles Dupain who had this meth he was a poet and a scientist and all the best scientists were also poets that was understood to be two sides of the same thing and had this creative power which which Poe also developed quite extensively and used Dupain as a character for his detective in these tales oh and you said Sherlock Holmes is stolen from like they stole like plots from that yeah so Conan Sir Arthur Conan Doyle who was himself deeply tied into the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn he was he was a member the same thing that was running Crowley's operation right um he despised Poe he just he despised the character of Dupain he even writes and there's there's actually writings where he's describing the incompetence that he thinks Poe has of crafting Dupain and consciously created his character Sherlock Holmes as um a remedy for the character that dupain that dupain was that poe had created so they're having a goddamn magic battle these two yeah but poe had been long dead at this point right but because poe's actually generating a real a real potent method of analysis and thinking that anybody can do and should do if we're going to be able to identify the methodologies of evil the hidden the invisible realm of ideas that shape the material world like you have to use that that that type of thinking um and again his eureka essay goes through it so extensively where he's bashing both the um the pose eureka essay he's bashing both flawed methods of thinking of creeping and crawling as he calls it one being like deductive the other inductive like um one starts with assumptions that you can't prove and you you force the empirical data of observation into some model that's grounded in your core axioms that's the sort of aristotelian one that he directly attacks by name and he attacks the opposing school of creeping which is based upon this this Baconian method of using just sense data of what Francis Bacon promoted of just use your sense data and then extrapolate and look for patterns that once you find patterns in sensory data you can then extrapolate and call it a law if you want but it's ultimately not something you could provably know as a principle it's something

01:39:05 - 01:39:16 | Speaker 2:

that just works and these two false paths were promoted as Poe lays out beautifully to keep us in shackled where he says that the mind really has the desire and nature to soar where it's being

01:39:16 - 01:39:26 | Speaker 1:

told to creep or crawl or it's too only what they call it now or they were called in the 70s those meetings the wilderness of the mind and i didn't know that was a real term these had i didn't know

01:39:26 - 01:39:30 | Speaker 2:

that either yeah those meetings for uh the ones where uh you're just not going to go anywhere

01:39:30 - 01:39:58 | Speaker 1:

you're just going to be put on a on a the club of well i mean dude it's like so many people on these like wheels of samsara of and that's the whole goal so just get you on a treadmill I'm going to learn the next allegory At the level 2 Knowledge of fucking Look I'm making one I'm telling everybody I'm making a call And it was a joke but again How funny would it be if you did give me your money I can't sell that enough Wait I gotta take a leak dude I do too

01:40:00 - 01:40:09 | Speaker 3:

you actually let's tell people where their shirts are or read some comments i just i'm dying here but i want to ask you about plato because i was always prejudiced against him but it's neoplatonic

01:40:09 - 01:40:13 | Speaker 2:

and not plato i should be mad at right wow you're you've done your homework man yes that's right

01:40:13 - 01:40:18 | Speaker 3:

yeah i just watch videos when i take a shit i'm not smart all right mark it's all you

01:40:18 - 01:41:35 | Speaker 1:

hey everybody we got some super chats and if you ordered a shirt uh before the month of april it's in the mail it should already you should have a tracking code in your email and everybody who's ordered one this month will be getting one soon so untraditional uh method of printing these shirts in patoosh fashion i'm doing it all in my one bedroom apartment here so uh support kurt support me it's not a scam you will get your shirt and uh please don't ask for a refund that's crazy anyways um i probably shouldn't have said that and i'm gonna save some of the super chats for curb i guess i mean why would i answer these questions to curb that would be disappointing to you guys um so we'll just wait there might be a few interesting ones that i'll i'll read yeah here's a good one and kurt will read these two we won't have him uh skip anybody canada equals 51 monmouth oh look at that kurt's back yeah let me look at some comments

01:41:37 - 01:42:58 | Speaker 3:

have you seen the storm the storm on and worship of saturn what does that mean i mean i know worship of saturn i guess but i don't know what the storm on is maybe what's a better name for an uncosher pickle brand uh treyf brand pickles i would call it if i actually want to christ is king cute is king cumber maybe maybe that one what else we got thank you pimp joe rogan convinced homelander to help legalize who is homelander the trump trump is homelander i guess that's trump i mean i didn't know holander was zionist all right well i'm sure aldous huxley must be very proud right now yeah you could lead a derp to well trump's proving he's cutting out the portion of new world order i guess they originally had a plan where it was going to be overly feminine because if you think about that kai bell thing where they go you got to bring in overly it's always an imbalance like you're just describing what the the method of thinking either be too masculine or too feminine but never for the love of god have a stable two parent brain like where your two hemispheres are married and they raise your subconscious right instead of abusing it like we'd like to do right that's a great metaphor i never thought that's a that's what it is though i don't know if the brain breaks up that neatly but your subconscious is the

01:42:58 - 01:43:09 | Speaker 2:

kid they want to bless so what yeah like like like like like the the the just the healthy mature human mind right that they that's what they don't want yeah they want you to be to identify with

01:43:09 - 01:43:34 | Speaker 3:

something they do there's always got to be a problem with that yeah and and i don't know if you made this point but because i hate the dialectic i always have even before i knew what it was i hated it and uh the idea that that men and women are opposites is so stupid like it's like saying salt and pepper are opposed to opposites that must battle it's such an idiotic thing i don't understand why people think it's good but i guess it's you have to be conditioned

01:43:34 - 01:44:07 | Speaker 2:

right for a while then you accept this nonsense i guess and it could because one you know it could be turned into opposites if you artificially pervert both of them to their absurd extremes yeah like one will tend to vector towards a more intuitive emotional orientation the other words towards more left brain or left hemispheric you know logical orientation and if you just push that to absurdity and detach both like emotions from logic and attach the logic from emotions yeah the it's it's like oil and vinegar the pure logic and pure emotion will not met right

01:44:08 - 01:45:03 | Speaker 3:

like i said if you've been patterned right yeah because rudolph steiner who is very hard to get through i have to say um but i like when he starts talking about other occultists the backstage gossip and he talks about the dalai lama how a bunch of corrupt and i never thought of this until i heard his his stupid voice talking it's not his voice somebody reading his a corrupt priest class tell me if this sounds familiar so it's like egypt they're tracing the genetics of their people to get the new dalai lama right and they don't even wait for the first one to die before they say the new one has his soul because he could bilocate and all they're doing is taking a child and re-patterning their brain to say you're this guy now that's all they're doing and the dalai lama doesn't really have a personality so it's easy if i wanted to reprogram he's a small child to be the this dalai lama he's never said anything that impressed me that guy nick fuentes have never impressed me ever with anything they've ever thought of it's all Hallmark cards like even

01:45:03 - 01:45:17 | Speaker 1:

the things his great wisdom that is sold it's like these are Hallmark card statements they're not like it's not profound analysis or thoughts or philosophy in any serious way it's very superficial but and yeah he's got this weird you gotta feel kind of bad for him right like he was

01:45:17 - 01:45:27 | Speaker 3:

like raised by a Nazi practically like this guy George W Bush they're all George W Bush a Manchurian boy that their dad put him in a program because it's going to be good for the family but you know

01:45:27 - 01:45:37 | Speaker 1:

the the character that brad pitt played in seven years in tibet that was a real guy right uh heinrich uh he was an ss officer from the from himmler's on an elbow who was deployed

01:45:37 - 01:45:48 | Speaker 3:

to tibet in the 1940s that's what kundu is about huh wait is that the martin scorsese one kundu no that that oh i don't i never saw that oh seven years in tibet seven years yeah from like 1998

01:45:48 - 01:46:11 | Speaker 1:

or something and uh yeah that that actually is kind of biopic like this actually that kid that he meets who is is the dalai lama that he befriends for like five years living in tibet and they remain lifelong friends who meet each other on several occasions in the 50s 60s 70s um in argentina where he left lives with all of his other nazis yeah well that's why the cia

01:46:11 - 01:48:00 | Speaker 3:

loves tibet so much that's why the beastie boys had to free tibet and then shut up about it never bring it up again all these dumb celebrities who probably are slaves like a dalai lama from the monarch program which was real i don't know what people tell you it's not real but it was real a lot of it came out of canada too don't kid yourself uh you can lead a derp to kirk but you can't make a slurp that's just a fact thank you steps up uh what are my favorite well i'll just tell you the ones i wrote which is um i don't know if i had three or two they only made one of mine because it was freelance but uh the one where the the uh star wars the the jedi masters have been molesting their padawan learners and then yoda transfers them and then darth vader shows them on the darth vader doll where he got touched that's me and then i had one where it was like a furniture it didn't get made but it was about how you can trust their uh furniture or interior design because of how gay they are it was called dewey and associates because i worked at a place where it was gay that was a furniture sales and it was like and they really stressed that they're the tasteful like nathan lane kind of gay and not like a leather ball gag kind of this years ago anyway the only one that oh and then i was in the um legal system one i was one of the swat team that kicks in the door with uh bill burr but uh i remember being at lunch shooting that and neil telling me about how they're going to do the rick james thing because uh charlie murphy would tell these stories about rick james that are bad rick james was in some occulture by the way don't like 100 so is michael jackson so a bunch of these people pay sore yo triple e knows more about the pace wars than me but supposedly that's the escaped uh romanoff boy or something raised by some family i mean maybe they switch kids around look think of dracula remember he had a or a game of thrones where you leave a hostage with another family it's it's it's like that to

01:48:00 - 01:48:15 | Speaker 2:

me i don't know anything about this that's the family that um mel k came on to tinfoil hat to talk about and that episode got the entire show taken off of youtube for the first time that was

01:48:15 - 01:48:24 | Speaker 1:

like four or so years ago when sam went on joe rogan and he was talking about this one family you can't talk about that was their family that's oh yeah so was the show gonna be taken down now

01:48:24 - 01:48:30 | Speaker 2:

do we just sacrifice this show well we're not like diving into the family yeah i'm sure they're fine

01:48:30 - 01:48:51 | Speaker 3:

and i don't want to be any semitic i don't know that they're judy jewish but obviously we don't don't want trouble and i am gonna i mean that's why i don't bring up the van dusen family the creep that wrote astrogenetics who are you by the way own a lot of botanical gardens sletches in toronto under the crown you know the city of london yeah that's a sign of a witch a stinking witch

01:48:51 - 01:49:20 | Speaker 1:

generational funeral home people well canada you you know the the giant sculpture that's right outside of our national in the national capital outside of the the national gallery is a massive massive disgusting spider it's so big it's like eight stories or not it's like three stories tall and it's called mother uh with a with a giant sack of eggs made of rocks pretty much and that's like our national gallery that you have to walk under this thing mother uh to get

01:49:20 - 01:50:26 | Speaker 3:

in the nation's cap yeah it smells of witch coven's everywhere oh yeah i dude i talk so much and i was in boston talking to my friend that's an editor for uh santino's thing and um where i'm at the hotel where i just did a show and then there's this old lady sitting there outside like and i didn't know stuff i know now i was just throwing out like theories i had based on the few things that i had found this lady's like spying on us right and um i forget i left but she went up there because i'm a practicing witch in the golden dawn i just want to know what you're talking about this is in boston and i wish that i i i was she came over to ask what we were talking about like who i don't want to talk about i wish i had talked to her because i bet i would have found out something interesting or ben maybe had a curse put on me who the who the hell knows but i don't drink pee so i think they can't get to me i don't know how okay monmouth county local here a question get roger spur from mud fossil university jarring proof is that tartaria i i is that is mud flood in tartaria the same thing yes i think yeah yeah this guy we've talked about

01:50:26 - 01:50:45 | Speaker 1:

on the show in the past i actually called him once because a listener of my show gave me his phone number and uh yeah i'll just say people who like his content you're probably only gonna find it on his channel because he's not very uh willing to to cooperate with interviews and things like that

01:50:45 - 01:50:49 | Speaker 3:

but what do you mean you can't interview him or like i'll ask him about it he won't tell me

01:50:49 - 01:50:57 | Speaker 1:

let's just say he's not on the he's on the spectrum of maybe not even being capable of of doing something like that so

01:51:02 - 01:53:59 | Speaker 3:

okay well we'll try titanium thanks for 20 bucks yo they made people like this blair white equals starlight the boys is too deep oh star wait starlight was bored of man yo you know i saw that girl in person uh where the was i doing a show she was at the airport but i saw her i was like oh her plastic surgery is as bad as i thought but now it's gotten really bad that's so sad dude that chick was very pretty and everybody's got to mutilate their face for and i don't have no idea why we're all korean inside i guess what else i'm ex mormon becoming a dad soon any advice well i don't have kids so i don't know what the hell to tell you i'm a single uncle too i'm not really single but i just have nieces uh just pulled 200 soda cans and a lot of tickets out of co-workers truck uh driving back to san diego soon how do i catch your stamp in austin kerb i'm at the mothership all the time and at the creek all the time i mean i live here hey matt great to see you derping with curb yeah i want to get mad for a while uh what else hey mary picard check out patrick melrose miniseries great episode i could account of how royal families raise their young oh i will check that out because um well i don't know you any people from like generational money that like you know if you're not around rich people you don't understand that like rich and rich are there's rich and there's rich and and a lot of times you think you know rich people they're like really middle class when you compare it to like old money yeah and then when i talk all many people their upbringings are horrific i mean they're not good they're all like people living in a constant state of uh what's that stress hormone pumping through your veins at all times cortisol i'm i'm guessing but i'm going to check it out because i'm curious i'm guessing it's about how to make kids who can blast cortisol through their hormone channels without dying and that's the key to being a ruler because you have to do horrible crimes right because it's a dangerous world i mean it's because of these parasite people that live here at least it gives you superpowers at the end of the day so you got that bonus i guess being able to pull the trigger is a superpower that most humans ain't born that's how you know humans aren't intrinsically bad how they keep telling you you wouldn't have had kindergarten if people were that murderish it's the oligarchy their kids aren't even like that and they gotta abuse them till they make them like that uh am i a fool to hope they're destroying a wood jesus sign we're moving away from trauma into drama based like i think it's uh i think it's all part of it you know i i definitely drama based my control there's some video game that i and i play those games like a child i don't want to imply that i don't but i don't know what the game is some capcom game where it's like a robot man and a little girl that hacks computers and there's like a social culture war controversy about it and i'm watching everybody participate in that dialectic people i like and people i don't

01:53:59 - 01:54:33 | Speaker 3:

are all because you sure don't want to think about world war three do you why don't you get that superpower you can look at what the is going on all right i always start yelling at no one on the show that's the key sounds like every isekai anime ever made you're reborn yeah isekai is one of the most asian things but i bet it has an appeal because people play these video games where you level up or it get initiated through like uh you know all those if i don't think you get initiated i'm a new level now right it's a video mystery school

01:54:33 - 01:54:44 | Speaker 2:

that you go through well it's like assassin's creed it kind of has that's that's some high quality production though i mean they they're very knowledgeable content creators who did that

01:54:44 - 01:54:50 | Speaker 3:

well i don't want to all so i bet they have some knowledge on it right which which has a lot of

01:54:50 - 01:55:00 | Speaker 2:

weird belgian belgian occult networks um french right um belgian and french networks throughout the the cultural control scene uh here video game sector's big

01:55:00 - 01:55:37 | Speaker 1:

yeah it's really and well i like that they got so greedy that they can't even make the programming good no more that's my favorite is that these scumbag they're all like magician i mean all the that you would take marketing and whatever that's all what magic is and they all are doing it and they they just want to money grows on the tree of knowledge and they just get money and then they don't give a about nothing else probably my guess is if you're that rich or like a billion you know the billionaire level which i don't think you're allowed to be unless you're in that that cult that uh you described earlier matt that little insulated cult i don't think they let you in that club it's they guarded a lot there's probably very

01:55:37 - 01:55:48 | Speaker 2:

few exceptions to the rule yeah that yeah you where you can keep your conscience intact and be permitted into that level of of influence yeah i'm sure trump and the re the kabod psychopaths

01:55:48 - 01:57:11 | Speaker 1:

he's surrounded with think they're better and they i mean you know we're in still in grades if you're all but i bet trump's like well i never ate a kid's face like hillary did so i'm you know people like like prisoners are like you did a sex crime and all i did was home invade so i'm better like you're all pieces of just so you know okay what's next finally got my shirt yeah uh uh i checked uh because i asked mark about the first kind of shows i didn't like and mark got some good shirts and on the road people i have felt your shirts it's not a thing i just do like i'm like the dalai lama touching tongues out here but i'm just saying it is a good shirt so mark did a good job on that i got some new ones for you too kurt don't worry oh good yeah uh i need a new one any updates on hidden america coming as a guy he's got he's dealing with dude and he got on his channel recently by some with youtube and i don't have any connections youtube but it's pretty what they did to him but i love that channel wait wait go back what's the next what did he say after that beck lover on uh i didn't have any plans but i'll try to get him on i talk to danny all the time all right what's next i love that guy danny jones he's a good dude uh thread to pull on ufo free energy field proposal amy eskridge oh right tesla stein metz is the key not plasma isn't it all part of the same thing is ether and plasma the same thing or am i making that up ether is more

01:57:11 - 01:57:21 | Speaker 2:

underdefined it's it's more speculative is like what is the nature but plasma seems to be if you're going to talk about ether competently it'll be plasma which makes up like most of the universe

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is plasma um it's the other field of uh whatever it's the fourth state of matter um and it's like any type of radiant matter was how r.a costaldo who again was very helpful on this they used to call it radiant matter when they first discovered it and then it's either bohm or the other guy called it plasma because he says the lifeblood of the universe so that's a very confusing way to refer to it uh i have been on kino casino too by the way and um yeah i love those guys i i would have um i want to have them on my show um but uh yeah uh i love kids you know i talk to warski all time uh all the brawny orsini fondi massimo yeah venetian so that's the uh the lizards behind the jews you can say i was a joke at louis ck about that because he he asked uh rumsfeld if he was a lizard on ona it's one thing to talk about about the jews but the lizards behind the jews louie you brought this on yourself all right i'm not against the jews by the way i'm against loriana cabal really i'm against mystery school i honestly i hate i hate it i really do uh early yes earliest dark journals katherine fish she mentioned some type of emf hypnotic manipulation at a meeting she oh i didn't see that but yeah they're doing that if you can't see their mass doing that think of all the things that are so absurd now as soon as people say so that's not realistic i go you know we forgot if women had dicks for about 10 years and maybe that's why that scientist was killed she had the top secret knowledge of if women have a pp or a wee wee or what these things even are because apparently we don't know all right what's next uh didn't read my 25 sc again you dunce former ghp addict i highly recommend it uh i've heard it's a good weight loss uh for looks maxing ghp works and i heard it was very good for sleep and boners and uh they they purposely conflated with rohypnol uh and they called it a date grape drug which it was never there's no record of it being used as that but i'm sure somebody would if it makes someone passed out and horny i'm sure they would but yeah that it it takes away the the the functions of about seven different medications as from what i understand i have never tried it as far as i know but uh yeah did you read fell fell mortality brian moroskaka rogan knows him he's been in the vatican archives studying giordano bruno that raw castaldo supposedly a descendant of him and a theory that the original eucharist was a psychedelic witch brew then covered up by the church everybody has a thing about why um jesus is bad but they're always in the framework of

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think the vatican is the church i got news for you the second it became the government official religion it wasn't it wasn't christianity no more and jesus said it's going to be like that repeatedly he goes the second i'm going they're going to it up i'm paraphrasing okay uh but i don't believe all this that that it ties oh a tithe i want you to just give from your heart because you might give me more than that i don't want to cheat myself out of these bigger donations okay what's next it becomes a hassle people give me money as you can see matt uh the cia drew plans to take out de gaulle do you think about that it sounds plausible but i know nothing yeah this well

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i see it all as like one five eyes complex right the cia mi6 uh as the the anglo-canadian control grid that controls permadex are different parts of one thing so yeah sure i didn't look into the particular cia angle though i i just know it's uncertainly there but no i didn't look into it

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okay what's next uh plato's apology made christ's sacrifice clear to me oh good because i want to ask about this and i'm gonna get lost in super chats and forget so so i always didn't like plato because i'm like i don't from what i understood is he he actually wrote like never tell anybody your real beliefs and he was a real big believer in this like uh dictatorship of better people than me in their heads that should tell me and create these little q anon larps for me but you're saying that's not plato and that's more neoplatonic right or am i wrong yeah i'm saying that uh that plato

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himself is showcasing the nature of how the oligarchy works in some of his writings actually all of his writings by by just demonstrating what the mind does when it goes from ignorance into knowledge what type of internal um self-examination has to happen what type of how the mind can develop muscles of inquiry by looking at paradoxes when you press your hypothesis to explain a phenomenon like what is justice what is a good life what is piety so he'll start with something broad and then he'll involve it'll engage um an interlocutor to showcase what their hypothesis is and then they'll test it out by by inquiry and seeing does it does it map onto the evidence of reality or does it fail if it fails because of a crack it didn't map properly that crack is a paradox that paradox creates a perplexity that is a gift that we can all have when we're trying to solve a problem which we hold on to not to smother it away but to rather find a better hypothesis that will resolve the the paradoxes and that's just the general potent course of action of any mind that's going to make a discovery into principles of the universe and make life better for themselves and other people now in the in the the book that he gets the most that's taken out of context the most is the republic which features a lot of the stuff that you just mentioned now what he's doing in that is this is the thing you have to take this in the context of everything he's writing and the person he is and what he's doing when he's running the academy what is he doing to organize um against the the cult of apollo at delphi which he is doing and you could prove that that's the case historians have documented his network so he's actually playing a role in his academy his his the republic what he's doing it's an exercise in how to not fall for for lazy reasoning so he starts by with the question of justice what is it and then he scales up in the first one demonstrating that the hobbesian way of thinking about the might the definition is might makes right of thrasymikos is incorrect it's it it falls on itself when you when you push on that on that inquiry but what is it it just you just know what it isn't you don't know what it is so what he then does in his subsequent books uh two through ten is he then says okay well maybe it's easier to see it if we look not just as an individual but as a group in a society and seeing where is where is it lacking and so to build up the society there's this like ideal of this like world run by um justice but what does it look like we've never experienced that before and and so he what he does is he has his young person glaucon that he's talking to a cousin of plato who's basically um being asked by socrates plato's teacher okay well we need leaders we need guardians of this city don't we and glaucon's like yes we need guardians to guard the city and to be the leaders okay but how do we train the guardians and he's like i don't know and he's like well how do we train uh we probably look to

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how we train dogs guard dogs right and glaucon's like oh yes it's how we train guard dogs and then he builds up the consequential it's like if that's true well let's see what will result we treat human beings like guard dogs then there will be certain consequences as you construct your your argument about how to practically arrange society by guard dogs who are the philosopher kings so-called and it will be fucking fascist horrific and disgusting it'll be very eugenical but what he's doing is he's showing you number one where was glaucon making in everything.

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because in every other platonic dialogue you will ever find he's oh he'll never let that lazy crap go he'll always be like wait a minute you said that can you prove what you just said is true in this case he doesn't he allows that sloppiness to be the foundation of of a construction and number two he's showcasing to the readers who are mostly students at his academy what the methods are that are that already exist by the ruling oligarchy that was then running that had run babylon that had run persia he's just showcasing how the sausage factory how the sausages are made he's taking you into the sausage factory and he's doing the verboten he's taking what is supposed to be secret mysteries that you're only supposed to get access to if you're being brainwashed into a mystery school and he's he's making it publicly available so that everybody could see how this architecture works and he has to do it in the way that he does but it's the he's he's not creating anything he's showcasing what already is the practice for millennia even before him so what's neoplatonist neoplatonists are people who came after plato basically a lot of mostly hermeticists followers of her the the teachings of hermes trismegistus the guy's the best yeah and um they're they what they will do is they will take the outward surface appearance of some of the things plato says that they like and rather than treat it as it as it really was as intellectual exercises they will they'll say instead say no that is uh the basis of real wisdom is the secret

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teaching for the for the masters they will then use we've always got to turn it into the oligarchy

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and the exceptional people in the cattle always always always yeah and so they turn it into an elitist secret doctrine number two is they infuse a lot of like so they'll take from plato's uh to maus which is sort of plato's cosmology it's a pipe agrarian cosmology of like why are there a certain order or number of virtues and vices not infinite but there's a certain quantity of specific vices and virtues their opposites which are actually more primary uh why are there only a certain amount of planets not infinite planets in our solar system why are there a limited amount he didn't know about all of them but he did know about a number of them and um and he builds up this or a certain amount of like uh resin consonants on a string in a musical octave like why is it why is it not everything infinite notes that we call consonant but only these particular intervals so there's this quantization in metaphysical and physical reality which is investigatable which he outlines this beautiful elegant pythagorean hypothesis in in his timaeus and what they will do is they will take the outward superficial uh statements that he makes about um the connection of the macro and the micro and you know different astrological oh and i'm gonna say this is just right and and yeah they make that their thing and they build a whole

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science around all the shit yeah yeah yeah yeah or he'll observe how like one element becomes

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another element but he's talking about it in a very scientific way what they will then do is they will then say no that's what we'll call now alchemy and we'll like and we'll we'll apply that now to the spirit to the soul as well so we'll try to make a philosopher's stone we'll try to make gold out of mud or we'll try to use this idea to break people of their former selves alchemically and transform them into something better a golden soul and they'll say that that's the golden soul that plato talks about in the republic and what plato when you actually read plato you realize that no in his philosophy everybody is destined and has the power to become a golden soul it's just that not everybody has made it there but the duty of somebody who attained a higher level of knowledge is to then go back into the cave so yeah right and pull other people out even if it means risking your own life that because they might have a fair price

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for a fair price don't cheat them you charge them fair for it that's uh exactly i think i know what

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you can you can do an addendum if you want yeah yeah yeah yeah just give it away it's not all right what's what's next and how did how did kurt become a new playlist well i as i was making my

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cult i realized i would love for kurt to go to full courting rant i've known of jeremy never followed i like to get the derp on what all the smoke is about so i for some reason who is the guy the um that rogan was friends with who was like a row i met him i don't think he is a robot but he talks like a robot and for some reason youtube was like you want to hear no no no he is a robot no uh you know what's his name the russian guy who's who's uh dad's a plasma physicist and i'm blanking on his name but for some reason youtube would just push his videos like when i'd fall asleep with it on i'd wake up the following interview is with something and we should love each other he's a nice guy but you know they got to okay uh jeremy for the quartering is a guy that reads the he he works the system here's what i'll sum up what i can't stand about this dude is he has takes that are

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offensive when I say offensive like if you're talking about Gaza like it's no big deal and Trump's doing a great job the only here's the issue with Trump having a secret plan he murdered too many fucking people and if you're cool with that I don't want to hear you're a fucking Christian I don't hear you're going to get your Jesus piece at the mall you dipshit and then you fucking not only beg from your followers but then you lord it over him and all of it's phony the thing is his bad takes he doesn't believe in them he's just saying them because he thinks so he's a scumbag apparently there's so much more to this guy and i find it hard to believe because he's so boring where he's connected to some some guy some guy who's like a jewish bull in a swingers group in the midwest lex lex friedman lex friedman is not the jewish bull he's no no he's a bull but not no but but fucking uh all this crazy shit about him spilled out it's just someone who's an insincere money grubbing motherfucker like jeremy who's like the thing that bothers me is being a phony you know like don't tell me you're this thing and then you exhibit every quality of a satanist and i include opening pokemon cards obsessively with your money there's nothing sadder and more materialistic and pathetic and occultic than that beyond child sacrifice what a sack of shit anyway you try to get kino casino taken down because they must have touched a nerve on something somebody hacked something and found out what he's into and and like all these other people that don't jive but listen jeremy's just a boring fun guy to laugh at i i have to see tim pool in my mentions and that's way worse because the guy used to like his show back way back when i would i just want to learn something i just don't i want to hear pablum another guy is 100 complete government slop horse and and because i'm on a new show on jimmy door i have to know what the actual current events are it it wouldn't suck except for the part where you have to explain the people in the cave that there's they're not even in a cave they're just doing this in front of your face like there's no cave you you don't even need technology to do it you just lie to you and you accept it because you you've been trained with i don't know baseball i don't know what gets people's minds can you get patoosh to make some derp below seven shorts when you're spying on the billionaires come on job come on uh it's pretty funny i might i might put goodbye job in something think as a james bondville i have to figure it out uh it's pretty funny that's a good idea that i like that in grad school i tried to prove the anabasis xenophon was rigging the reading of entrails to help the greeks return from persia i failed uh i'm sure the entrails would be rigged all the time as soon as you got like a middleman i mean just like a series of middlemen grad school

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you're that that's an interesting thesis to work on sorry yeah but i don't want to cut you off how you even prove it i i'd be curious i'd want to talk to this this million dollar trooper actually because i think about xenophon is it does seem that he was part of this because he's very close to plato and he had a program to overthrow the persian empire by taking i believe it was yeah it was the uh the the heir to the throne of persia cyrus the younger um who was recruited and organized and taught by members of the academy to become like this philosopher king and the idea was to then use him with with this 10 000 army that would go into persia and and install him overthrow the

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current the current guy are you serious so we had a shot the son of the shah they were doing that

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well i'm saying yeah except this guy actually seemed pretty cool i'm like the son of the shah who's a whore but this guy the problem was he had he's a hothead got challenged into some weird battle got killed and so even though the greeks were doing a great job like winning every victory that was the key battle that they couldn't lose is they lost their guy and then they were stuck in persia and they're like well we got nothing now to offer if we do take the capital we got no guy to put in there so they basically had to make a hasty retreat at which point they started getting taken down and uh and xenophon had to like figure out how to become a leader and guide them out because all the the generals got tricked into a peace a peace negotiation with the persians which was a trap kind of like red wedding they all got killed and uh the guy actually who um who who tricked them was mino the actual character from the mino dialogue that plato then creates who's the aristocratic wannabe king that that plato makes fun of when he has the slave boy double the square that's an actual guy who was the character who tricked the generals into the fake meat peace meeting where they all died leaving just like the the lieutenants to try to figure out with xenophon how do we survive and get out of here which they did um but yeah

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it's a crazy in the movie the warriors no i don't know if it's that there will be like for when if

02:14:42 - 02:14:51 | Speaker 1:

we could get some like moral content creation in hollywood like there's so much material to work up work with if we actually had that space and if satanists weren't running it like what scripts

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get no they want you there and it's real subtle it's not the things you might think even though it's right in front of your face it's subtle things that are a problem

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because they they stand in the way of the programming and and you have to like i don't know i have to see an example of one but i could point out if i see it i can't think of on top of my head but i mean just people complain about woke disney but disney was always say satanist i mean the whole time the whole time it was bavarian folk tales to program you yeah they used fantasia on in in that mk abuse they used it specifically and they had uh and if you you read joseph's book john lily you go on the one ride then john lily would be talking to you about how you're about to embark on a great it's all that shit of traumatizing and get your fucking x-man powers fucking gross oh link for the shirt i don't know but mark knows he'll put

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it in this don't you worry description of past episodes one for this one too yeah okay you had

02:15:50 - 02:16:11 | Speaker 3:

jay on kurt america will be orthodox will it uh joseph p farrell's orthodox and his research is really tremendous and he's the guy where i didn't put it together because all this dialectic you know you ever see joseph feral say that he thinks the western thing he went wrong with augustine of hippo because that's where we got into this dialectic and i i'd like to have a a conversation

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with because i have almost the the complete opposite way of analyzing all of the the meta story of history everybody he thinks are the bad guys i think are the good guys everybody yeah so you gotta oh that's very interesting yeah like actually like augustine for me i've read so much of augustine i love augustine he shaped who i am and how i think as did plato who shaped him and as does cicero and i've read a lot of them and he thinks that these are all the bad guys so i find i would like to have a conversation with him to see i mean to be fair he didn't call him a bad

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guy but i know what you mean he said like that's what went wrong with western thought because it goes from original sin being how did he put it you put alphabet soup in your gas tank and the car don't work now which is how they originally thought of it too now i'm i legally morally have failed just because of eve now is the western so you got you got two things you got the the

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misuse of augustine's doctrine you got augustine's doctrine and then why augustine put out his emphasis which makes me uncomfortable too on original sin but you gotta to understand why he had to put that emphasis is to understand the battle with the donatist heresy because the donatists were the primary danger to the church at that time which were it was pretty much a a mystery cult in disguise that only they took out like 80 of all the churches of of north africa which is where he was from were dominated by donatists and they basically were coming out saying that only people who were perfect would be permitted to be priests in the church you had to be perfect but it's like what does that mean you you're a human you're always gonna oh you have to be

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clavicular you have to be clavicular you have to look so pretty much so i'd be at the end of the

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day they were they were they were trying to get people into a delusional state of of that would destroy the essence of what made christianity viable which is like the emphasis on humility our self uh in like our self-validabilities and all of these like that aspect of it is core to making making it substantial if you don't have that you pretty much just have an arrogant cult that will become very much more easily uh that will destroy itself and so he had to battle the donatus which he did and i think that that's where the emphasis that he places on that original sin thing at that moment in history contextually was very important but the the damage was definitely incurred by ultramontanous papacies and others who wanted to invoke shame and guilt as a tool of control by misusing what he was writing i i think that that's more it well this would be a good

02:18:38 - 02:21:16 | Speaker 3:

conversation with a smarter person than me called joseph p vero yeah sure it'd be great all right we'll try to make it happen but i don't know joseph but i'd love to get him on i want to join your call by my balloon knot by winking surf and my freckles in one-way value i'm not familiar with these terms could i be a bookkeeper or something i guess but we're gonna really have to gape your fourth eye okay what's next it's kanye west of freemason he recently bought a 33 million well 33 it means a lot to it's not just freemate i mean the 33 is like there's the council 33 and your spine all this other hermetic um but i know he went to that creepy ass church with bishop barbara king who if you could tell me that was always a woman but i'm telling you it was not you look at her talk for five seconds you tell me that she looks like an eddie murphy character from the clumps and she's giving a sermon about how you have a dragon in your throat that's your power that ain't no christian church that's some what probably one of them dragon messiah heretical things that they're all over america you know because they talk about prosperity as soon as your church as soon as they talk about prosperity and golden you know you're talking to the devil and i'm not even religious but it's obvious if you ignore all my s super chats well i just i don't ignore all of them but and i did read this one so i guess you won that bet Petrified Dragonhead off the coast of Oregon uh maybe i was that i don't know i'm familiar with it i don't know if that is oh did you email it i'll check it uh tracy do you read tracy twyman stuff very interesting have you seen quarter hand planet with shilling okay i'm glad you brought that up old nosy because this jeremy from the quartering character has connections to nexium for some reason but it's not my headphone it's this is a person who he talks like steve bro hey look at the corner guys he talks like steve brule somehow he has nexium connections i don't get it yeah i don't know dude there's more to that story i'm not really like a hacker or something but there is more to it all right what's next i wish you people would stop i know i said for money but it's like a hassle now you got to try to film something with joe list is heinrich simpler do you know comedian joe list no like a skit like he's a he's on tuesdays with stories from um i don't have just a picture of joe listing empty dude but he does have the exact face of uh all right what uh catch is my hero love from philly uh i know that guy what's next uh where can i find mark's channel uh oh what's your channel called again just like

02:21:17 - 02:21:22 | Speaker 1:

canada patriot or something mark well matt's channel is that right sorry

02:21:22 - 02:21:29 | Speaker 3:

oh mark's channel is where they find your channel uh my family thinks i'm crazy i put out two

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episodes a week on all the audio platforms uh some of my episodes go to youtube but if you want all the videos sign up for my patreon yeah mark gets into some wild shit dude and i've had so we can get uh we can get joseph farrell on this show um but yeah the merch obviously we'll putting the link in the description to answer that question a second third okay the great

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german peasants were 1525 i think we're talking about is peter nears the uh serial killer he was a corrupt shepherd that became a bandit and was doing deep occult shit and um they said he could turn into a stuff he was a shapeshifter they would say he turned it i can't remember what he could turn into but it sounds silly the items he could just become i'm guessing this guy knew how to stay under the radar but he got tortured famously to death when they caught him but he was in some like spa or like a i don't know bathhouse or a steam room so this guy had been getting away with everything with impunity and then all of a sudden people just recognized him one day in a fucking schvitz and they're you're that fucking guy and then they killed him and i like to liken that to what's happening now because the disguise is dropping even as we speak

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and is this a guy who ran the german peasants war uh the protestant uh backlash or i don't know

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about i don't know about florian guy or i'm not sure who the hell that is but peter neal near peter nears n-i-e-r-s i believe is the guy okay or or mussy you know about ormus the drink of ancient sumer of juiced pineal gland and lung tissue and monotonic gold i know they kind online there's fake online called ormus it's monoatomic gold well i don't know maybe it does something for you but the real that makes you it's like the movie death becomes her i'm told uh stream site this quick look i don't have you read tarot using pokemon no but i'll bet i'll bet i could as obviously as the uh pincher of the loaf uh brian landry brainwashed gabby petito small talk brainwash is that what he did was nlp on her at first i thought it was her fault let me be honest here not being murdered but i thought like it was like they're a followed a couple but apparently he was into some weird shit that guy but i don't know all of it that's true nothing hey that's where we get mystery bullshit from the military because people don't naturally want to murder each other despite what they tell you and i know they don't because the the prussian school of education is to combat that people missing on purpose uh the picture augustine showing playing

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with a skull what does that mean it means that there's been paintings over the year over the centuries where painters decided to include a skull probably neoplatonic painters who were shitheads maybe that were trying to use their own meaning into augustine which is what they do but

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is this guy saying that he fucked it i don't think he did that all right no there was no photographic

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evidence of augustine with a skull obsession or a death cult maybe he's doing shakespeare you don't

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know maybe epstein is a big fan of el de generis he's having his to be not to be moment orthodox seen a justinian he ain't alive 27 000 plebs in one day by offering to negotiate in the hippodrome i don't know this story at all justinian because he offered to negotiate you're saying is that why that killed them i don't know that story yeah i don't know the story either but it's weird to blame not the killers but the guy that tried to negotiate because that's kind of the christian thing to do and i don't know if you're a christian you might get killed for it they tell you i don't if you know that you're not supposed to be a savvy warrior physically as a christian it's entirely spiritual you're supposed to

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see if you're honest in your dealings you're not a fucking liar that affects society as a whole doesn't it all these people believe it that's why they want to make you forced to be a liar and a killer with uh every aspect of society every second of the day um holy shit we went long dude matt there ain't even enough time to get all the information out of you that i want to get so i have to have you come back will you yeah sure say the word this is fun um yeah uh the plato thing is especially interesting because i really had it in for plato and i ground pope i didn't have it in for him but i was like i don't care about the raven you know okay well what i'll do i'm

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gonna mail you a couple of complimentary books like this one yeah please do uh the documentary that i mentioned that we we produced um i'll make i'll send a link to mark to make it available for anybody who wants to watch the documentary to go through a whole story of of the real po um for that'll be available for all that takes into like it gets dark it gets really dark the second half so enjoy the ride and uh yeah anytime you want to chat again man just let me know all my books again are available on my website the canadianpatriot.org i'll talk to uh what's his name

02:26:02 - 02:26:16 | Speaker 1:

daniel from dark journalist because he's buddies with uh pharaoh they're always uh doing a thing because i would actually like to see you guys that's like a great idea i you know i'm not educated enough to even know which one he is right on that to be honest with you sure um yeah i'd be

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down if joseph is willing uh yeah i'd make the time for sure all right that's fucking awesome

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man thanks for coming on i appreciate it all right everybody well you got derped i don't know what you

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