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Oh, welcome to the Derp with Gurp. We're back on the air after I was demonetized, done fairly for repetitive content and uh i had a bad attitude about to be honest with you and i didn't want to do any more episodes for a little bit but uh we got advertisers and my other show is not to brag but the trending podcast on spotify with uh duncan it's called mystery boy so check it out this one is where we just do stuff i want to talk about you know the dirt with curb you know what it is you've been here all right uh i got a very special guest that i got hooked up with by this dude tyler that i met at skank fest and um this dude ronnie bow who's in prison with r kelly i think i watched an interview with you talking about it right was it was your story the one about r kelly was talking about how he got drugged to make that p tape yeah yeah because why would you on tape do that if you weren't completely drugged you know like if you somebody is into that and you're into 15 year olds you probably would know not to have have a tape on you if you weren't like completely on something that that's a good perspective to

have on that book uh in that industry though kurt you know some people don't get to get in certain positions unless they do certain things and you know r kelly was one of those guys he come from the trenches he was being molested most of his life so he didn't really have you know integrity and morals you know growing up so people people like that allow themselves to get in certain positions to get in other positions you know what i mean yeah there's a lot of people that already

it's a good point i didn't think about a lot but there's so many people that already got molested that get presented with the choice to get rich from engaging that behavior and if you've already been like exposed to it with no guidance i'll bet it's really easy not to make a big deal out of it

yeah well i don't i don't know for sure if r kelly ever like intentionally or willingly engaged in such activities i don't i don't know that like i talked to him i read his paperwork me and him was incarcerated together in the same building for like 21 months so we saw each other for about that's about two years you know on a regular basis and then we ended up on the same unit for like 30 days to where we saw each other and spoke every day for like 30 days so you like knowing him and hearing his side of the story i just don't know if he willingly did that you know i could only take in his side of the story and then hear what the media is saying and make my judgment off

his side of the story and what the media is saying yeah i know media so it's so worthless to find the

media is saying you cut you off but they just um they just demonetize you because you are a independent thought leader who is that's what i say but what some people would say is they did it

to about 30 million people at once because instead of doing the review by human means they claim they just had an ai go to see if there was ai and shit and then just label repetitive content and i make a lot of ai shit but i think my i i think i make good ai shit i got good fucking uh dude i i got some some sweet in fact right now we're kind of you look are you able to play this mark for him to see uh uh yeah because i want to add this to it before you do that kurt uh i just

want to say you know they uh they banned people like alex jones and minister lewis ferrican so when you say the things It's just...

you say and then you interview people like me and you allow people it's easy to get caught up yeah you you can't interview people like me and expect to stay on youtube and be monetized

oh i got i got my own advertisers i'm gonna go right around them and then when we started streaming again i'm gonna do it on um rumble but uh yeah i i mean the shit i say on the the shit i sound mystery boys when that goes up tonight at eight i don't know what kind of i did do one of those scrubbing services to take my name off of shit you know you know uh what's the one i use delete me but um i knew like that that other one must have blown up because i started getting weird texts from people i don't know who the fuck they are where i'm like what is this i haven't i haven't used my phone to look at porn in quite a while yeah and and just to get us off

the porn subject i don't think pooh shiesty will wear your mask bro i think this is from an astronaut

costume but i just use it as a shiesty i got this off of nasa the suit's way too hot i could never

wear this suit it's like makes me sweat yeah did you did you hear about how pooh shiesty rob gucci

man okay i i know i understand it a little bit but explain it for people that don't know i just like recently saw videos talking about it and i wasn't sure like who was uh right or wrong in that

because the names are so goddamn okay well i want to start off by saying free pooh shiesty and fuck gucci man because gucci man actually snitched and that's against everything to do with black culture or hip-hop culture or r&b culture or anything like we just not supposed to snitch so we snitched on

How do you snitch on him for stealing his shit?

Okay, so no. So Poo Shiesty was signed to Gucci Man under a terrible contract. Oh, right, okay. And Poo Shiesty became bigger than Gucci Man, so he wanted out of the contract. And Gucci Man wouldn't allow him out. He wouldn't even allow him to buy out of the contract. He wanted him to be a slave for a few more years because he knew how big he was getting.

Why the fuck are people so into, like, it's really quite amazing watching like people can't relish the chance to put somebody enslave their own kind and I don't even mean race I mean like another guy doing the art you're doing you can't wait to enslave them that's the most fucked up

and see big homie CC told me that you were a great guy and you know that's just behind the scenes like when you meet new people you want to ask other people who you dealt with to know this person and see if they're a good person and big homie cc told me personally that you're a great dude he actually said that you're a real nigga i don't want to say that because i don't know we can say on your show but real nigga is the highest honor that's that that's the highest honor you can get in black culture like like even dr king and malcolm mix well malcolm mix was considered a real nigga but not dr king so um you more like it you more like malcolm mix status not so much dr king

studies okay i had a friend who lived in new york give me the status of that but with a y on the end of it instead of an a i was like whoa that's an even higher level of a closeness than with the a um so so okay so oh yeah this is what i i mean i was in comedy dude and i started out in like the chilling circuit you call it i guess i started with kev and uh jay the roast just happened yeah you see a kevin hart roast that's my buddy big jay that i started with we were all out of the laugh house kept him off like very quickly okay okay but so the way doing like it was it was called it wasn't like black and white rooms like the black rooms and then mainstream was what they called it and uh the thing is on a weeknight you could get paid to do it you know so a lot of times you're starting especially in like the white rooms in new york at times it was no money your pay is going on but um you know you could be like three years in a comedy and be doing uh like you know like 75 spots on a weeknight which was good in new york or a hundred dollars or like kind of like small robes usually work six nights a week and then uh this is like 20 years ago and uh meanwhile well the uh mainstream rooms they were trying to pay you with like like food and shit or like there was like five dollars on a weeknight just to compare you know now it's different depending on the club but we almost had a strike you're not really a strike but and we had a union rep telling us to form a coalition and not a union because stand-up is not really a union thing but um there's all these club owners and the ones that weren't rat bastards were like oh yeah it was just up to pay the ones that were were i mean it's amazing watching like and it's all the one Yeah. i would have thought would be like that were like that not known from the seller that guy didn't even get involved because he raised the money before anybody complained because he's a good dude uh like uh anyway when you would work what you do in these colleges especially if it was like on the black circuit the dude who was getting the college gig i think we didn't know how much money anybody's supposed to make it at college because you get like 300 you get like 500 bucks you're like oh great it's like a 30 000 show like they can't they there'd be one guy taking home like 20 grand and he cut everybody else out like this much it was real up um kevin never did that but but and he knew how to dance around all those people that did do that but it was so much of that i it was just mind-blowing man it like uh you had to have attitude that you would like take a piece of the club home with you if they don't pay you like you you don't even have to necessarily fight although this one spot you gets in atlantic city is fucked up it's this place called so that you'll get your oh yeah well

sorry you cut out what'd you say your voice cut out no i was saying you i'm sorry about that i was saying you would usually could you hear me now yeah now here can you you can hear me now no i i was saying yes so you was basically alluding to a person would get their ass whooped in a situation like that right yeah but i wouldn't

have known to be like that until i watch other people or like jay would would get into a thing for his money i wasn't shit so i wasn't getting paid like that yet to have to be in those fights by the time i was getting money from stand up really i was doing more the white rooms so i'm sure you're not afraid in a white room to get my money you know what i mean like because i was used to seeing that it just got very doggy dog and i would be surprised at the level of conniving of people that you there's always motherfuckers that would talk a good game too like you know anybody who's the most racial about of course they were always going to be the biggest thieves Because they do affinity scams, right? Nobody's going to rob you like your own fucking people.

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Kurt.

Yeah. Kurt. Yeah, can you hear me? Am I coming in?

Yeah, it seems like you can't hear me too well, can you?

I can hear you great. Is it a delay or something?

You can hear me great? I can hear you. No, it was a delay on your end, though. But you can hear me great?

Mm-hmm.

Yes. Okay, we good to go. I know you can edit that out. I was just making sure I didn't want to have no technical, you know, interferences.

Uh-huh. All good. All right, so, like, comedy, all those my stupid shitty times aside, it sounds like music's way worse way fucking worse and and also connected to shit like did did r kelly say did did he know about any any direct like weird cult things going on when he got drawn to that music industry because i heard every story you could imagine

well the stories that i i don't think you probably have imagined yet or haven't heard was that You know, we spoke about how Epstein would do research and see that the day that Epstein died, me and R. Kelly was incarcerated together in the same facility. and so if they do research i don't know how deep they can get into the research but i know for a hundred percent sure that they will see that at least that me and r kelly was incarcerated together at at the time that epstein was at least pronounced dead because we don't know he could still be alive but uh so r kelly did know epstein and uh you know when art when uh epstein name came because of his death r kelly did have things to say about epstein and he even spoke on his experiences with epstein which involved jay-z so when r kelly met epstein jay-z also met epstein at the same time so you know he did have experiences around certain people on certain things so you know i'm not here to say r kelly was innocent or totally innocent

I do think that he was targeted and taken advantage of for other reasons than the thought that he may be a pedo or however you say that. But I'm not saying that he was never that, you know. I'm just saying that he was being controlled by people who was doing either the same thing or wearing blood for adrenochromes to get high and astral project. Did he know about that? Yeah.

Did R. Kelly ever bring that up? Adrena Chrome ever?

Well, R. Kelly is not. And I'm not mad at R. Kelly or anything. He's the most intelligent man. Now, he's very talented and gifted at what he do as far as being a musician.

Yeah, right.

And I don't think there's no better musician than R. Kelly, even Michael Jackson. I think, you know, with R. Kelly being someone who has wrote for Michael Jackson, I would have to say that R. Kelly is even a better musician than Michael Jackson because Michael Jackson never wrote for R. Kelly, but R. Kelly has wrote for Michael Jackson. And so I think he is great at what he does, but he's not a very intelligent man, So he wouldn't even be able to comprehend or understand why people drink blood and get high off adrenaline crows.

Okay. I think there's like a two-second delay, Mark's telling me, but it'll be fine for the recording. So R. Kelly never described anything where somebody was drinking blood around him is what you're saying. Not that he ever heard of it, but did he ever in the music industry see anybody using something like that? you know if you saw somebody drink blood you probably remember it even if you're dumb um but he never said nothing he never heard anything like that

well uh well no look but the fact of the matter reminds that before i met r kelly i had already been a published book author who wrote about conspiracy theories so i was already the type of person who would be curious to ask certain things so i did ask r kelly certain things but uh to be honest and with all due respect to you i have no choice but to be honest on your platform because i respect you so to be honest i didn't even find out about people drinking uh blood for a drink until i started dating uh the daughter of former miami mayor joe coroyo and uh when i was dating caroline which is his daughter you know i found out that uh their family were around certain politicians and not that they were into certain things but it was confirmed by uh the mother well i don't want to get too deep off into that and start telling about other people who told me important things they they don't want to be known for this but The fact of the matter is that the Rothschilds paid my ex-girlfriend as a lawyer. She's one of the top lawyers in Miami, and I already said her name. I don't want to say her name again, but, you know, I probably said too much already, and I think we—

We could cut anything you want cut out later.

No, you can keep that. But I think the audience, I think you have a wise enough audience to get to, you know, actually think they probably need to think about what I just I don't want to families in particular, one of the Rothschilds and Lee Rothschild to be exact. and i just don't want to say too much but i learned i learned about the drinking blood

and adrenochromes from my situation with that okay did they did anyone ever mention to you besides that stuff other stuff other kind of stuff made out of hormones and did they ever describe uh anything in like capsules like silver or bronze you know do you remember them uh describing anything about it besides like you know just that that's a thing

no but getting back to Art Kelly so he did realize that he was being drugged in many situations or certain parties so I can't recall him saying if he saw what type of object or pill that they may have put in his drinks, but I do, and even getting back.

I mean, well, I really don't want to harm R. Kelly's reputation no more than has already been harmed. You know, the media has said a lot about R. Kelly, and I'm not here to combat that. He's the least. Or to even defend him.

He's the least. R. Kelly is like.

No, no, go ahead, Kurt.

Oh, sorry. The delay, I'm sorry. And again, my phone's blown. R. Kelly is the least of. He's like the least of the thing. the thing is so massive and so many people are involved and it goes so high up i'm blown away that people you know i'm just curious because i think that's interesting when they cast aside somebody for whatever reason right like usually it's uh somebody got smart about their royalties or their masters they want to buy somebody's catalog you know usually it's something when the slave trade of music right like somebody wants to buy their their shit back or or uh you know like i know people think cosby's innocent but i don't think so but i think they didn't have a problem with nothing until he was gonna buy nbc and then it's a problem right i think they want you to be doing dirt to let you up into you're not getting to a certain point unless you're gonna do dirt around them so they know they can trust you like any other gang or any other criminal activity absolutely i gotta know you're cool absolutely yeah so if you you know and a lot victims are going to be perpetrators too is how this thing is set up so i don't i don't ever get hung up in any like like prison rules of of whatever like i i i want to know like individual details i want the thing to fall down you know and i think people i don't know if it's basic training of like where you're supposed to focus on your neighbor and not the person above you but it's programmed to everyone they're always are like oh good or like yo that doesn't solve shit that they put on kill you in jail what about like you know i don't know if you know the at the very top this uh lutnik guy that's trump's buddy but he's deeply involved in epstein island it's all in those files he brought all his kids there and somebody else's kids too and it's like creepy shit the email and he just lied lied about it do you think that the good do you think that the war

was uh launched to distract us to distract the public and and by us i mean we the people uh everywhere not just nationally but internationally but do you think that the that the war with uh the u.s and israel uh against iran was launched to distract us from the epstein files no the The Epstein files would do more damage to the United States government than a war.

Well, it should. It should do that. But guess what? It didn't do that. The fact they blacked so much of it out should make the whole nation collapse. Does the insult of that. But no, it didn't do that. The Iran thing is because of Israel, we've always... Trump's going to be the guy that does all the shit they want, like the rest of it. All these whack jobs at the top think that they got to rebuild this third temple. It's so fucking stupid. Anyway, Israel runs us. That's just a fact. I'm not saying the Jews. I got nothing against the Jews. And only a dipshit says the Jews instead of Zionists. If you say the Jews, you're not helping. And I think you work for Zionists because only Nazis and Zionists think it's all the same. It ain't. You know, it just is not. And so, anyway, there's one particular psychopath country that runs us. They have all that blackmail shit. But anyway, the music industry, who's that Lior fucking creep? Wasn't he working with R. Kelly? Did R. Kelly work with that weird Israeli guy, or am I way off on that? His name's Lior something, big hip-hop producer?

Lior Coe. I think his full name is Lior Cohen, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He did work with him, and that's who R. Kelly is actually the most. upset about about his situation Leroy Cohen not just him but uh there's other uh I don't know what you allow me to publish on your platform but there's other so I call them I call them so-called Jews because uh in the Bible it says they're not really Jews they are the synagogue and I'm a Jew you know okay so I'm a Jew but I'm a real Jew

so is israel so a jew it's really the word i guess the real words yahudi you die or something but it's the two-tribe kingdom of judah so that's why it's called judaism because that's the two-tribe kingdom and then there's the lost 10 tribes right or i don't know there's more tribes there's missing tribes the two-tribe kingdom of You

i believe includes benjamin i could be wrong but there's one that's just always with them and that's actually the one that started doing synagogue of satan the scripture i think you're referring to is when they stoned stephen while uh saul he's called saul at the time but he becomes paul later he changed his name like diddy after you but he's holding the jackets while the pharisees which is the jews at the time uh are stoning stephen because he says they worship the star of they worship rem fan which is saturn you know that's what he accused them of i didn't know rem fan was saturn when i read that back in the day but that's what it was so that's there's a few there's like several sects of judaism i mean there's not like there's uh the pharisees i guess would be like rabbinical there was the sadducees there's samaritans that are still there to this day they're in the bible let's say they're the real jews um the the thing that everybody's laying claim to though is not being a jew it's being uh israelite that's the thing people are trying to you know you've probably heard of all these different sects of it there's the black israelites i think the hebrew israelites are the ones from ethiopia that literally went to israel and then israel secretly sterilized them uh and then there's the ones the guys out on sixth street where i live i forget what they're called the they're called either black israelites or the the black hebrews lights very similar i always yell free palestine at them i go i attacked them

anti-semitically i'm a part of i'm i'm yeah so so i'm a part of the ones who who later became moors

oh interesting familiar with the moors is that the noble drew ali is that what that is

yeah so so exactly so you you're familiar with the moors and you know my name is ronnie bow so when you when you uh compound the word more would you get more ron so uh that's so uh to get into prophecy you know that that's why i'm here to uh to uh you know awaken the real more and let them know who we are because you know these so-called jews who really don't live by jews in the sense of a religion or in politics you know they are

really out to destroy 90 of the population um uh you cut out but i i think i know exactly what you're saying but it's not just them too by the way there's the every institution it's like every institution um has this like shapeshifter cult in it so if you're a catholic if you're a protestant all the evangelicals here all the baptist churches all dude they're all out of the same hydra they all came out of the same hydra and they're all invented by like magicians as like a role-playing game to lay on people so i was jehovah witness growing up so that that's one specific kind of like path working and the people i didn't know the people that invented it were like wizards and but they were um the what i want to ask you is that i thought the moors were muslim i mean the historic moors not the not the drew ali ones but the word more i thought that was north african muslims in spain am i wrong about that okay so

no so what happened with the moors is that back during the time of uh prophet muhammad you know he went to war with the uh the fake christians because you have fake christians too So the Roman Emperor Constantine had waged a war to confiscate the true teachings of the Bible and to represent Christianity in a way that they wanted to represent it and the way that they wanted people to believe. so when uh no well not noble juli the prophet muhammad came around and he went to war with these people the uh those who called themselves moors decided that for political reasons that it would be best to convert to islam and to ride it out uh with muhammad's war instead of you know any other armies at that time. So what were they before? It was really a strategic...

Before they converted? I didn't know that. That's interesting. What did they convert from? You know, like before they went with Muhammad?

Well, it gets...

yeah so it gets it gets a little ironic i was i would say so they wasn't really religious people they were spiritual people and it is a big difference like religious people are confined confined into certain mentalities uh spiritual people are open-minded a spiritual person can have a sit down with a muslim a buddhist a christian uh or even a satanist and have a a reasonable conversation with that person without being offended now religious people can't do that if a christian tried to sit down with a muslim and the muslim started telling their beliefs the christian would be offended and the other way around if if a christian started speaking their beliefs to a muslim a muslim would be offended by certain things but spiritual people can talk to all uh races of people people who come from all cults and religions and never be affinity and have an open mind and even help you to understand your religion or your race

or your culture more well okay so i just looked up i forgot so the the core group of the moors are berber tribes but i didn't realize saint augustine is from there saint augustine is a northern african is saint augustine a black guy um well it was like a kind of a weird mix of christianity and paganism at the time around mid-7th century uh the umayyad caliphates were pushing in and then yeah the many berber many berbers converted through the wallah client system becoming allies uh there was resistance under leaders like kusala or kahina but pragmatic alliances and islam's appeal as an ideology of equality against arab elitism helped spread it that's very interesting that's very interesting because that's how we have the kind of uh islam spread in america now is based on a equality right that's how the appeal of it to people when

it spreads yeah that's very interesting absolutely and even now you have a religious organization here in the states called the nation of islam which was founded by uh uh what farad master farad and uh and yes and elijah muhammad i think elijah muhammad yeah noble drew ali right oh yeah right yeah so okay wait wait what is wallace farad from the more

science temple right is okay excuse me so did did uh wallace farad come before drew ali and then Elijah Muhammad or did Elijah Muhammad talk to Wallace Farr directly you know like which one came first you're saying Drew Ali is first

well Master Farah and Noble Drew Ali were actually working together for Noble Drew Ali's movement but Noble Drew Ali was the leader of that and there is speculation that killed him yeah there is speculation that, not just that, but there's speculation that Master Farad was actually the leader in disguise of the Moors, you know? I don't believe that personally, but there is a widespread speculation.

Oh, I just heard he was white. I just heard he's white. I mean, he looks white. He's Syrian. He was Syrian, so that could be a lot of things. But I think he got killed. I forget whoever he was talking to, but he suddenly disappears.

No, no, no, not Master Farad. Master Farad never disappeared. Noble Juali, now he was arrested and drugged and days after he got out of jail, he died. But there's pictures with Master Farad around people like Elijah Muhammad that would have happened after the period where they're insinuating that he may have died. So I won't state that as a fact.

Okay, it's not Drew Ali. It's Elijah Muhammad. By 1934, he had thousands of followers. He appointed Elijah Muhammad. Let's see. Okay, so Fard, they say he disappeared from public view in 1934. So that's from public view. That don't mean that they know he's dead. Some sources say late 1933, Elijah Muhammad said he was deported. I don't know. It says Pearl. maybe it's not giving me any more details but uh they said he returned to mecca they said he might have died from diabetes or foul play or he simply moved on after establishing the movement nation of islam says he's allah incarnate do they say he's the mahdi is that the thing do they all say that yes um yes

So then, okay. So Zamoros, because I know as of now, Nation of Islam licenses Scientology for the people in their church to do. They have a deal with the Scientology, and what's his name, who I think fucking helped kill Malcolm X.

Now, I am a follower of Malcolm X, And I grew up not liking Minister Louis Farrakhan or the Nation of Islam, period. Now I'm more open to, you know, work with them or whatever. I think he's CIA.

I think he's full CIA. I think he is CIA. So Scientology is not – I don't think Scientology is a real religion. I mean, a lot of people say that. Scientology is a CIA cutout. I always have thought that. It's to control this. And it's phasing out. They're getting rid of it. you know is barely hanging on now and it probably would be gone if not for the cia allowing it you ever see the moonies reverend sung young moon all those mass weddings they do in the 70s the guy thinks he's the the korean better than jesus guy i mean it's a huge movement that republicans at the time they crowned him the king of peace in congress that's like better than jesus they gave him an official title then you got chabad which are like some kind of israel intelligence and there but they all are the same thing like by the way i agree i probably agree with what you're talking about with uh being you know spiritual versus religio or constrained but uh a lot of these religions are developed by some kind of wizard some kind of mage like a like a song it's so gay to talk about fucking magic i hate it but that's the big magic trick in like those wizard kind of schools we get initiated your final goal is to invent a religion so when you hear about a guy traveling around and starting a new religion that takes off my immediate thing is like okay that is some kind of wizard and that goes back dude if you go back to all these ones even the story of jesus in the bible there's three persians showing up muhammad and one of the hadiths would talk to three persians that were friends of the farsi guy there's always three persians showing up why well because they're magi that's what a magi is is a a mage and these people study astrology like crazy so so they're planning they're like oh someone's gonna be born it's gonna with me and so that's what the jesus story is king herod knows somebody's gonna be born they'll with him he hires wizards to go hunt him down so the star is not like a good guy in that story the star is you know some kind of satanic thing anyway that's just the story i'm not telling nobody what to believe but all these stories have that and and and um i found out like the when i was in jehovah's witnesses um the the guy charles russell was a big pyramid magic guy that they're all that's what the pyramid represents because a pyramid is a generational project right and it's timeless architecture it's like a symbol of slavery that's what the it is it's a symbol of your matrix around you on this earth that's why they love it so much that's why leaders love the pyramids this rigid thing that you some regular peasant you would never plan on that because you got to think day to day and feed yourself but the wealthy generations they can plan like 200 500 years ahead to make this incredible structure and then you're like oh did a giant make that you know like that's why they're all

about that it's why america's set up how it is it's never changed and we the freedom of religion thing a lot of it has probably to let a lot of like weird satanists do to kids i mean if i just broke it down to its bare essence some people think it's okay little kids and some people think it ain't and the ones that think it's okay i have developed a lot of little cults to get just groups of suckers to feed off of you've seen it okay the music industry think of that as like an anti-church right it's like just completely your parasites looking to grab you you don't know how to make money but i know i could i couldn't do it you you oh what do you do you rap or you play an instrument or you sing or i can't do it but i i know how to make money so in fact i think i'm more valuable yep and that's the story of r kelly mm-hmm that's the story of like most of of them or as soon as you brought up what's his name um um so funny to say these names

pooh shiesty but sounds like that yeah pooh shiesty was uh he didn't allow himself to get that far to become that but you know he was becoming it and with him still having you know integrity and and morals that you know most of us who grew up in and like gang culture you know learned at an early age, you know, he, he wouldn't allow.

himself to to go through that so and that's why he did what people consider crashed out you know he crashed out and now how did he crash out with crimes because he uh arranged a meeting for the contract with gucci man and at the meeting they brought guns uh they knew that they wanted out of the contract and that was the only way that they would leave the meeting so gucci wasn't trying to agree to let him out of the contract. They pulled out guns, forced him to sign a contract, took his jury, including his wedding ring, like a $2 million ring. You know, now he's incarcerated for robbery, kidnapping, and other things. Extortion.

Yeah, right. That's wild, dude. Surely it had to be in some way out of that contract. besides an armed robbery. I mean, I don't know. I bet you there could have been another way. He probably would have only owned the name, right?

Yeah, not even that. You know, once you trademark a person's name and you sign a contract saying, did I own his name for two years or for infinity, then you don't even own that no more. That's why some artists, like even Prince, like he changed his name to the artist formerly known as prince because he couldn't legally make

money off being called prince anymore right yeah so couldn't pushy steve done that because i got pushy steve by the way with terrible name i mean like look you always gonna have to change that

name dude what are you gonna be in a movie like yeah you gotta think it took years to brand that name and now they even call like when you saw me with the mask you called it the pushy steve mask Oh, that's why it's called that

I didn't even realize that Yeah, because of him Oh, wow, that's a bigger Wow, I had no idea I thought it was called, yeah, right

Yeah, that's multi-million dollar branding So you don't want to just let somebody Take a name that you put Years and All your hard work and dedication Into building You know, of course, he can probably Build another brand, but Change the poop part

Look, you keep Shiesty.

Or Ronnie Metzger, you know?

Yeah, well, I mean, my name is not a good. That's why it's called Curb the Derp with Curb and not my name. But just take poo out of it. Just take poo out of it. Have something else, Shiesty. I'm just saying there's a way around that. Who said that that was your name? Oh, my podcast. So, yeah, my podcast is called The Derp with Curb. it's a joke it's like an inside joke from an old show i used to do but um and because we're trying to think of a way it was a show where i pretended to be uh who said that mesker was your name oh yeah mesker's my my name but i don't use it like that on the podcast i use it when i do stand up i don't know okay okay yeah yeah it's like no yeah i probably should have a better name but i don't know i didn't i didn't like i didn't think about any business things when i started i wanted to get into this to be a jerk off i like you like kevin hart when he started that kid was i'd never seen anybody who was that business minded my whole life ever i don't think i've ever seen anybody like that who is that like focused and like you know what i mean like it wasn't like he robbed nobody to get his like he just did every thing i i would never want to fucking do you know no i don't know i'm not saying that includes holding

an egg in his asshole what what you say you said who you refer to kanye no kevin no no kevin hart

oh kevin hart oh because you know he said he goes everybody wants to be famous but nobody wants to put in the work and it makes me think of that shook knight interview where he's talking about they got a hold of egg in their ass or else they ain't been putting enough work in. Because remember what's his name in the pool, that poor fucker from Philly, Meek Milk, and he's sitting there in the fucking pool, and the guy's like, you've been putting in work. It looks like he's soaking his ass in the pool is what it looks like. Anyway, there's something crazy where it's like, yeah. What did you say?

Yeah, I would think that he probably was soaking his ass in the pool at the time, because they definitely got a hold to Meek Mill's ass, for sure.

I fucking started laughing. I used to have that recording as my ringtone.

mill you know somebody recording meek mill and diddy that awful fucking diddy slamming him so as a joke i made it a ringtone on my phone and uh i had to change it pretty quick i mean at first it was funny i'm just sitting with something you just hear you just hear that people go what the fuck but uh it's a lot it's really upsetting actually the more you hear it the more upsetting

against they're not making love yeah see i i don't want to get no absolutely not but i don't i don't want to uh i don't want to try to win sympathy for these people but like with regards to people like meek mill you know we come from very terrible environments you know and sometimes our parents are drug abused kids heroin addicts or whatever everybody in the environment is either like a robber or thief or pimp, a hoe, a prostitute or a drug addict themselves or a drug dealer and trying to get up out of those environments is like, I mean, I wouldn't do it, but I do feel for the people who get to the point where it's like well i'm a millionaire now i can take care of my mother i can take care of my baby mama i can raise my kids i can buy them cars and put them through college so they get into compromised positions and then they lose their integrity and they they choose the the the money what they think is wealth for you know and replace of their integrity now I wouldn't do that I'd rather be flat broke right now and to be able to look in the mirror and say did I respect myself then to look in the mirror and say wow I gave my ass out you know to make sure everybody is eating

yeah well that's the thing like a bunch of people gotta and what blows my mind is looking back now i can't believe how many really rich people and really poor people got all the same they all had the life of precious or something you know like they all the top and the bottom they all are like not getting enough to eat and getting uh graped and incest you know like the middles where it's not really like that but it's really bizarre to me like you could just you'd be in the ghetto doing it or you could grow up having that in a really nice house but that shit goes on at the extreme ends of society all the time

yeah absolutely so we haven't spoken much about my friend Jay-Z what do you think about Jay-Z you know he got to the top do you think he do you think by any chance he had to do some like very what do you mean had to sacrifice a loved one Okay, he's Thelema.

He's into Thelema. That's Alistair Crowley religion. You know what that is, right? Thelema?

We talked about that behind the scenes.

Oh, you actually talked to Jay-Z about Thelema. He's a Satan? Well, I mean, if you're doing this, if you're doing the triangle of manifestation, that's like kind of Satan shit. I mean, I don't care what you do, but as long as you're not messing with kids. But this shit, I mean, it's a lot. It's a mudra also, and it's a lot of shit.

Do you watch Matthew Cox's Inside True Crime show?

Yeah, I have a little bit, yep. I haven't watched a lot, but I have watched a few. I watch him as a guest, and I've seen a couple of his episodes.

Did you ever see me on there with him?

That might have been where I first saw you was that. That might have been the first time I saw you.

probably yeah i did like a well i have multiple videos with him one of them did like a million views right and in that in that video we talked about jay-z and there was speculation and rumors that when i got shot they were saying that jay-z has something to do with it because i got shot in uh new york under mysterious circumstances wait after that show really

I didn't know that

No, it was before that That's what we actually talked about on this show

I remember hearing you talk about R. Kelly But I don't remember You getting shot Okay, well Tell me a story, that's interesting

Well, so I did go viral on another platform It wasn't a match at the time To where When I did my first interview I talked about, you know, how I was framed in a case by the feds and why I felt like R. Kelly was framed. And then they asked me, like, did R. Kelly bring up any other celebrity? So I talked about what he said about Jay-Z. And then, like.

Like, what did he say? That's what he said. I don't remember.

Well, he was he basically just said Jay-Z was a sellout that he saw his soul and that he's being controlled by certain people. And that was that. And that went viral. and so when i got shot like two months later they were saying well he got shot because of jay-z you know because of the coincidence of of he going viral for being one of the first people to say something bad about jay-z to now he's shot you know so that that was widespread speculation and jay-z he could have had something to do with it like uh i should send you the court documents but I was actually questioned by the FBI for allegations of Jay-Z having me shot. So it was a very serious situation. But I just say that because, like, bringing him up and talking about subjects that we're speaking upon. You know, I also had a long talk with one of Jay-Z's close childhood friends, The Haven, who, you know, and this talk was public. We had this talk publicly on Sean Atwood's channel Before Sean Atwood deleted All of my videos

Wait why he delete them

Yeah it's It Well I don't even want to Because if I tell Why he deleted them and you are already Getting demonetized Sean Atwood has a team that goes behind the scene And have people report all your videos And get other stuff I don't want that for you

I'm not, like, close to him, but I don't have any issues with him where I would think he would do that to me at all. Like, I don't think he would. But, I mean, also, he just cut it. But what is the issue with him?

Yeah, well, he'll do it to me. So the issue with him that the first time I got on his channel, one of his co-hosts asked the audience to donate to me. I wasn't aware that they was going to do this. So they asked their co-host, well, the co-host asked the audience to donate to me, and the audience started donating, but he posted his PayPal, and I didn't understand that. So, you know, people were sending money to his PayPal, so afterwards, he say that it was only $25 accumulated, and there was other people who were telling me, Did you get the $100 I sent? Did you get the $200 I sent? Yeah, yeah.

Is the partner the guy with long hair?

Is he the guy with long hair? No, same. Same. But I got into it with his other partner too, Ron Swanson. Now, what people don't know is that there are four documentaries out about Ron Swanson where people are alleging that Ron Swanson did worse things to them to then then r kelly did really like you may have the art integrity you may have the morals to be able to tell me bad things about r kelly and get away with it because if you haven't done the same things then you got the right to stand up and say that that's wrong but for a person to actually do the same things to people and worse to say that r kelly is a bad person then you a hypocrite you a fake you a snake and and every other bad thing that you could be possibly called so yes i fell out with ron swanson because of that and they were uh so they they were trying to sign me to be a regular on the show and they were saying that we can get 2 000 of our subscribers to pay your patreon eight dollars per month so you'll be making 16 000 a month and for me i actually needed the money at the time like i come from the streets i don't want to sell drugs anymore i don't want to go back to that lifestyle so i wanted the opportunity but then when it came down to it they were saying well we don't want you to talk about this and that like i had positive things going on to where i filed petitions and one of those petitions got nba young boy out of prison early and they didn't want me to promote that on their show they wanted me to only talk about jay-z or diddy or r kelly i didn't want to talk about them it's not much that i can say about jay-z or diddy or r kelly especially not much good so i don't just want to be on anybody's platform bashing other black men and they didn't understand that well the british you know in uk

they were not going to get that in uk they have said well you know i haven't been there a long time but when i last time i went there those kind of politics of black they really did it's kind of even blm kind of was weird that they had that there because they did a way different job of the way you know like you know i want to tear down a bunch of other black men they didn't have that kind of mentality over there at all when i was in england like i i didn't see like now maybe the newer generation try to play it up like and i like john boyega the actor but like dude let's not pretend you're

american okay but see i come from the prison system too right right and in a prison system and a pro sean was in prison and sean was here yes he should know yes he was with the white supremacist organization so now that you ask me to speak on it anyway i'm ask you to keep that all in because now that we spoke on it I think that it should be I'll leave in anything you want I think that we should publicize it now because I was trying to say those guys but now it's like since I had to speak on it like fuck them they did enough behind the scenes to try to damage me so like it is what it is at this point

yeah and also you know my thing is I don't man, I talk to so many people that there's, like, a dispute with them, with other people that I talk to all the time. So I let anybody air their grievance in their side. You know, I don't see what, like, I don't see any harm in doing that. And I don't have any, you know, like I said, anybody wants to speak on what they want to speak on, they can, and then I'll cut whatever people want. But there's a ton of shit like this, especially podcast business shit that's that's um you know it's it's you you can't make a lot of money if you if you are like focused on certain algorithmic things you can make a lot of money off of it and um you know i've been like my other show with duncan truzzle we had a negotiation for like dude like a six months on a podcast contract and i'm like what you know i mean and the show's trending number one on spotify yesterday so i guess that that's why it would be negotiated but i couldn't believe the lawyer and these are people i like you know i like tom and uh both his wife both them they weren't the ones doing it their lawyers sent this deal and then we have an agent to deal with that but i could it was like the offer i'm like this is some lawyer from vegas that don't know how disrespectful this offer how disrespectful they're being right now this motherfucker don't know it's all i could take it as because i can't imagine anybody else in a showbiz offering the but anyway i i i i just want to get the the information like like um i just want information you know i don't give a about any high school with nobody i mean people's money that's not really high school that's your life but uh like i said i don't i i never take sides in a thing unless i feel like it's like my business too and sometimes i feel like it is but i mean not that story um uh uh wait so nba young boy is he from he's from the nba gang is that what that is and he was in did all these guys that were picked up from like was a drill i guess is nba young

boy like drill rap so all these dudes i mean who is like yeah you said a drill right who like

And most white people don't fucking, you know, Drill's been around now for quite some time, but most white people do not fucking know what the fuck it is. They think a rap is like Jay-Z still, right?

Unfortunately and sadly, Drill Rap is making songs talking about killing your enemies who they call ops or like planning to kill your enemies or talking about your enemies shot at you. like anything about retaliation and conflict with your ops is considered drill music yeah so it's

like kicked up i guess they used to say gangster rap when i was young but it the site it's almost like the cycle of violence has spun up a lot quicker not not to cut you off but gangster rap

is a variation gangster could be uh telling your girlfriend that you got another girlfriend and her accepting it they could be considered ghastly you know what yes i think yeah i think you're

right about that because uh well i remember those songs but but i just mean where it's like it used to be like making people think you had a gang affiliation maybe you probably didn't you might have been a theater kid like tupac but it was good for your image to you know um then it became like no wait i'm in a gang i should be the rapper and i should do the actual murders and i should sing about it and that really kicks up like a notch what i don't understand is somebody has to be publishing this some music company who the is like this could end like tomorrow if they weren't gonna put out if these companies weren't backing up I understand that they're like, well, these gangs

are gonna do this anyway well then don't touch it if it's evil why are you touching it see if you

remember uh when gangster rap first started you know it started with people like ice t and easy right nwa right and and and tupac was very instrumental in in that realm at that time so there were politicians even people as high as up as the vice president who were doing uh you know public announcements where it's like we have to ban this like let's ban hip-hop music let's ban gangster rap and it wasn't even as bad as it is now so now well that's how you know

that's how you know they're doing an operation so even the beatles the british invasion back in the day that comes from tavistock it's social engineering or if you think of elvis like the way elvis got pushed as a template for all the men you know you from when you're a little kid you're getting programmed so when i was a kid what are you i don't know we like star wars and shit and they're programming you with stuff okay and they all know they're doing this that's why they that's why it's called tv programming that's what i would write programs so so they lay these things on you they're templates from society and uh so tupac and kurt cobain come out around the same time get like into their heights and i'm telling you those are premeditated not that these guys have nothing genuine about i'm not saying that i'm saying the people that run the industry this is when the private prison industry is kicking up and the people in that business are also in the music business and they're in the pharma business and they're in the fucking supplies for prison business they got every part of the market cornered and then they do social engineering it's just advertising without telling you it's an advertisement and it comes from way up top and as people think this is conspiratorial but it's not it's just fucking business so they come up with templates i think tupac was a gay theater kid at heart his uh uh first of all the black panthers was infiltrated like oh immediately where where do we get work i can't hear you we get

the the gay theater kid watch the watch eclipse dude watch the clips of him talking by the way

is a wonderful sensitive actor and uh all these actors though all these kids you have to say something gay is the wrong word what happens is if you're a mk monarch an mk monarch was to design uh stars superstars chosen ones for everyone to look at and pattern after okay his middle name tupac's middle name is amaru that's the dragon god of peru that america itself is named after that is an occult name that ain't no coincidence to me that you name that okay he comes out so meanwhile okay kirk cobain is wearing a dress and kissing his basis right that's the punk rock thing what what's going on the 90s is they're deconstructing the macho thing that there just was but for black guys okay now i don't know i don't give a shit what tupac's preferences on anything where he could be whatever he wants but they had a plan for every little group they put they plotted it out they go okay black people we need them in prison we never gangs we need them doing we're bringing they're bringing coke in the country to fund all these uh uh all this the cia does someone's gotta smoke all this crack we brought in it's gonna be these black people and they're gonna and they're gonna take every little bit of society that none of this has ever been free the artists have real talent i'm not taking nobody's talent from them but the the people making the money on it you've already seen it they're they're lizards i i maybe a metaphor but they they're like okay they're engineering society and you could see yeah the fruit of their works you could see the fruit of their works drill music now that's that dude this ain't a mistake it's intentional you can't do it this long unless you planned it this way this is their pyramid and they pick people out as actors very simply if you want to go along and show you could go along and you'll do all kind of wild shit it doesn't make you gay it just means you're down how many people in a frat i was never in a frat but i mean how much gay you hear frats doing fraternities a lot a lot of people and but why why do that because i want to

show you a big homie big well big homie cc is my fraternity brother what is it in our fraternity we don't do we don't do gay shit the gangster disciples uh the growth and development movement but but chicago servicing back to tupac so excuse me chicago is that chicago yes well not it's not a chicago based organization it was started in chicago i'm from milwaukee wisconsin oh and and we were very instrumental in growing that organization as well so just resurfacing back to Tupac now. We have to keep in mind that this young man was 25 years old when he died.

And now we have universities in other countries named after Tupac and who teach lessons for education based upon his music. So we can't look at him as the gay school boy. We have to look at him as the savior of this. Not the savior, I wouldn't say, but he, in a sense, he's like the Jesus of our culture who died for, you know, being against allowing your music to be controlled because tupac wasn't just somebody who made rap songs about uh gang violence or anything of that nature tupac was also the guy who talked about little girl who's being molested at home uh who talked about our parents you know i'm saying being forced into compromising positions and becoming you know drug addicts and things of that nature because they needed something mentally to escape the terrible conditions that was forced upon us in our environments. So I think we have to look at Tupac as something much greater, far greater than some gay schoolboy, bro.

The thing you described right there, everything you just described, like I said, I don't care about who's gay or anybody's thing, and I'm not reducing that, but you just described, almost word for word, that old aztec ceremony where you take a guy he dresses up as god for the week and he does me he's a flute he plays music you got to smoke him up if you see him they dress him up in this thing and then they ritualistically kill him and then he becomes the symbol that's a magic ritual that you just described exactly the magic ritual he was fucking used in and now he is on schools after he gets apotheosis so we create the the lucifer star the light everybody looks up to it and it's an idol and so i'm gonna look up to week and it stands for something right that you just described the thing that was important and then we kill him and now he'll live in your memory and we'll do this cycle over and over again we've been doing it for thousands of years that's all we got to do the whole point is is to make idols american idol like so you i don't have no you are

you i'm sorry to cut you off but you are a very very deep brother and one of the the deepest people who i've spoken with really throughout my entire life and i have i have been in prison with people who i have been in prison who sat there for 40 years doing nothing but reading books and doing research about history and politics and law and uh you are very deep and you have a very great you have a very very great point however uh and you might be absolutely accurate and incorrect about your thoughts about tupac however you know we didn't have much to look up to in our culture at all and uh yeah no they said tupac at least gave us some guidance and direction that could lead us to be you know better men and women dude that's uh i'll send you

it after the tav so tavistock in england developed this so so we want target populations and we want to make them into this or that right so i mean you're describing it perfectly people have nothing so first we take away people's family stable family the shit they're doing to everybody now they already did it to black people first they tested this shit on black people for many years and now they've moved it on into the main phase they're doing it to europeans now people turns out don't like it too much people don't care for it and so we take everything away and then we give you but you see the the the cage of saturn that's what saturn worship is i'm gonna put this black box around you motherfucker and then and it's like being tortured and then you get a little pinhole of light to come down and that's all you got and i'm gonna control it and and and the thing is everybody's a victim or game piece in it that's the beauty of it and i control the good guy side and the bad guy side i control both sides i control the prison i control the music that is against me the guy that owns the prison the whole thing's me l ron hubbard said there's the game pieces that don't know they're the pieces there's the players and then there's the game master and the game master don't have to follow the rules that's who these people are that's a jeffrey epstein has a chessboard of all his employees and chicks as pieces and why well it seems kind of vain but no that's a fucking ancient you know where chess comes from it's some ancient ass game which where you didn't have an opponent it was um like like you were trying to control reality with it it was like divination like um i'm trying to think of like a like a voodoo doll you know you know like a pop-up you poke it and somebody feels it there was a chess-like game they would use and it's based on astrology and you got osiris piece and uh whatever asher and you move in accord with the stars to try to enact your will and it's supposed to work as sympathetic magic all these people whatever smug they say these type people like mayor bloomberg remember michael bloomberg that is a mithraeist uh mate he bought a mithraeum in england in london in the city of london so he could refurnish it i obviously do some kind of creepy ass ritual i don't know what but these real high-level motherfuckers they go their families go back a long way and they do the most dark they do shit that is like i always tell people like whatever you heard a mexican cartel did right and and nobody has no problem believing it if you tell them some horrible thing mexican cartels do or african liberian war if i tell you oh dude they're drinking kids blood for the adrenochrome yeah nobody's gonna doubt me if i say they did that but as soon as you say the white leaders did it here or your favorite black leader here whatever the west the good guy west somehow people

think it's impossible you're crazy you tell them they did it in africa oh yeah i know they do that oh yeah they do that there everybody's programmed and they they cannot just it's not it's not like all right i'm not really that much smarter than anybody like i'm really not it's just a lot of obvious that people are trained emotionally to not see it's not i'm not telling everybody see that's not there they want you to not see that is there you know like that's extra lying like to make you go like we know by now the things up like this i think everyone should know this ain't a mistake it's not incompetence it's on purpose you can see a direction it's headed headed in for some reason people can conceive of gangs right but the second you tell them the people at the top are doing that acting like a mafia they're like what no the weather controls everything at the top there's nobody in charge at the top that's how they try to put it to you oh yeah no i see gangsters are bad you don't think they have that at the top no that's just the market what like that's how they talk that's the whole game to make you stupid fucking race fights stupid gender fights take your pick oh a war in iran the war in iran by the way is not you know the epstein thing was never supposed to come out at all but massey got that law passed iran israel wants to make the greater israel project they've wanted it the whole time they're taking half of lebanon right now they're getting beat up by drones uh oh by the way we didn't do well in that in fact we're back over there again now to bomb things but we are losing america could never win a war with iran america could never win a war with china or russia we haven't won a war my whole fucking life you remember us winning a war in your lifetime i don't what why do people think we would win they still think that how how how that's how you know the magic shit's real because it's it's hypnotic i just got to induce it hypnotically and music unfortunately a good carrier wave and so the people in charge go ahead put your heart into it man make it make your art and i'm gonna take it i'm gonna do what i'm gonna do to it and i'm gonna put a context around it to market you just to market you and then i'll push that out and that helps with my big ritual of destroying everyone that fucking looks like you or is a fan of you that's my ritual because i'm like a race well i'm not me but they think they think they're a separate race from you that don't have nothing to do with skin color they think they're a race of like serpent people i i don't really get why they think this but they think it shapeshifters um that's the only thing i know for sure is these people consider themselves like like shapeshifter blood whatever the that means and uh it's their world so i don't know i whatever helps you like not get get uh an egg put in your asshole by at a diddy party i feel

like is what i'm into you know hey kurt yeah kurt you uh you're the greatest man i thought after R. Kelly made that song The World's Greatest, I really thought that he was the world's greatest. Now, I think you're the world's greatest.

Well, that's very kind of you, but I knew I wasn't shit when I came on the podcast. I already knew I wasn't shit.

But no, that's a very bright perspective to have, and I think a lot of people should open their minds to that perspective that you just gave. But But on that note, you know, you took my mind somewhere that I want to go back and sit down and meditate and do some research and change my perspective on reality as a whole. Yo, come back on.

Come back on, dude. And what I want to do is have you call into Mystery Boys, too, because Big Homie did. It's pretty fun.

that episode that's like the number one trending podcast my other one so um uh yeah we'll do i'll just bring you back dude uh uh we know whatever show you find out um yeah that was a uh very interesting to talk to you man uh that's that's our show uh everybody uh you just