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AI Marriage Therapy
Mojo In The Morning

AI Marriage Therapy

from Mojo In The Morning

March 17, 2025 | 00:12:53 | Leisure

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All right, it is Mojo in the morning. A couple of things I want to bring up here. Oh, you know what I saw that I thought was pretty wild? And actually a friend of mine was telling me that they're doing this. I saw a story over the weekend that was on the news about how people are now going to AI marriage therapy, like couples are going, are using AI for their therapists. And I saw this and I thought to myself, that's weird. And then Chelsea was reminding me that one of the friends that we have, like a couple of friends that we have, that they have tried AI therapy and liked it. They thought it was good. So you basically sit there and you let AI decide your relationship.

00:02:29 - 00:02:38 | Speaker 7:

Is it an AI, like a fake, this sounds weird, but I'm asking for a reason, like a fake human face on a computer that you're talking to? Or is it strictly just audio?

00:02:38 - 00:02:46 | Speaker 6:

No, it's audio playing that you tell it what's going on. And then it tells you, AI tells you, it's not, it's a human voice speaking to you.

00:02:46 - 00:02:46 | Speaker 7:

Okay.

00:02:46 - 00:03:10 | Speaker 6:

But that human voice is not a real person. It's actually AI. Right. Which I think is kind of weird in itself because I think half the time when I do therapy, my therapy is me feeling like I have a friend. You know what I mean? And I don't want to ever turn to, like, I don't want to have it become a situation where I feel like I don't know the person. And they don't have an experience. AI doesn't have the experience, right? It's a computer.

00:03:11 - 00:03:17 | Speaker 2:

I mean, they got, they may have more knowledge and they have less of an emotional response. I wonder if it's actually beneficial because of that.

00:03:17 - 00:03:19 | Speaker 1:

No, we're telling robots too much. They're learning.

00:03:19 - 00:03:21 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. They're going to take us all over.

00:03:22 - 00:03:55 | Speaker 7:

That is, that's super weird to me. I would not. I just switched one of Lucy's doctors, and I won't get specific because I loved this doctor. But I switched because recently we went to an appointment, and the doctor never came in. He sent a PA in with a AI doctor. Nope. and so this doctor doc not even real like a robot sat on an ipad in the in the room cropped up in the room with the physician's assistant yes it was the weirdest thing ever and i'm like i want

00:03:55 - 00:04:11 | Speaker 6:

like a real human being treating her i yeah i don't want it was and although i will tell you this i'd probably be more honest to the ai doc than i would like when dr warner will ask me questions like are you talking on your phone while driving no are you kidding me what are you talking

00:04:11 - 00:04:17 | Speaker 7:

about doc he always tells me no donuts no hot dogs right i'm like yeah never never in my life

00:04:17 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 6:

dr werner i'm like i will never pass a donut i talked to him the other day by the way he was going to deliver a baby and i said to dr i go dr werner you're like breathing heavy and stuff is everything okay and he goes i'm running down the hallway at bowman hospital he goes the baby he was running late to get and he's like running down the hallway and he's like and then he's talking to me you know how dr warner uh if for those that don't know him if you're a patient of him he cannot say goodbye to you without like saying goodbye a million times yeah it might be the reason why when you're going for appointments everything's always backed up so much but he's like all right you be good you be i'm like dr warner hang up the phone you're right so but okay So go back to AI.

00:05:00 - 00:05:17 | Speaker 4:

for a second, AI therapy. Would you go to a therapist that was AI? I'd try it. You would? Yeah, why not? I'd try it. But don't you have a therapist that you have a relationship with? I do. I love Dr. Bord's. She's incredible. Is that a human being or no? She's a full woman.

00:05:18 - 00:05:28 | Speaker 5:

A therapist needs humanity. Yeah. I think so too. But maybe that's the issue though. Here, I would try it. I'm not going to immediately shut it down.

00:05:28 - 00:05:28 | Speaker 4:

Yeah.

00:05:28 - 00:05:39 | Speaker 5:

But I would give it an opportunity because who knows? It may work out better for me. I mean, I'd rather ask Google a question than ask one of y'all. If it's like a fact-based question, I know Google's going to give me the answer.

00:05:40 - 00:05:48 | Speaker 2:

But that's different because, not to say that it's not important, but it's not as important as somebody's marriage.

00:05:48 - 00:05:48 | Speaker 4:

Yeah.

00:05:49 - 00:05:51 | Speaker 2:

I guess depending on what question you're asking.

00:05:52 - 00:05:55 | Speaker 4:

Do any of you guys have AI on your phone at all? Y'all do.

00:05:55 - 00:06:04 | Speaker 2:

Everybody does if you have an iPhone now. Yeah. And by the way, AI is driving me crazy in Gmail. Somebody teach me how to turn it off. It's like, this is a priority for you today.

00:06:05 - 00:06:27 | Speaker 4:

Where do I get it on my iPhone? How do I get it on here? Well, I mean, Siri is AI. Give me AI. Hold on. I'm just using it. Okay. It says, sorry, I don't understand. See, this is what would happen. I'd be telling, I would be telling my therapist things and they'd be like, can't understand you. It sounds like you've got a mouthful of syrup.

00:06:28 - 00:06:31 | Speaker 5:

What is that drop that I play on? You're talking about like the Apple Intelligence?

00:06:31 - 00:06:33 | Speaker 4:

Maybe because it sounds like you're talking with a mouthful of syrup. Yeah.

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I don't know if I have.

00:06:35 - 00:06:36 | Speaker 4:

I don't know.

00:06:36 - 00:06:38 | Speaker 2:

I don't know if I've actually used. AI.

00:06:40 - 00:06:47 | Speaker 5:

Oh, my God. I don't think it worked like that, bro. I feel like I'm at the genius bar. I'm at the Apple Store with 80-year-olds going, what's an Apple ID?

00:06:47 - 00:06:57 | Speaker 4:

No, this would be Chelsea and I. What's my password? No, Chelsea and I would be going to marriage therapy, and she'd be like, he doesn't understand me. He doesn't, whatever. They'll be like, I don't understand how to use AI.

00:06:57 - 00:07:12 | Speaker 2:

So just so you know, and I'm reading this. I'm not making this up. AI on your iPhone is basically a smarter Siri. It helps you write. It's like advanced writing tools. The notification summaries, which also drive me crazy. Do you have that on your text? Oh, yeah.

00:07:12 - 00:07:13 | Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah.

00:07:13 - 00:07:15 | Speaker 2:

I don't, I need to figure out how to turn that off.

00:07:15 - 00:07:23 | Speaker 4:

Can I be honest with you, though? A lot of times I use it. So be careful when you get a response from me, because if it spells it correctly, it's usually it was one of your notification responses.

00:07:23 - 00:07:34 | Speaker 2:

Well, I'm talking about, do you ever get text messages? It especially does it for me in group text, and it'll give a summary of what everybody said in just a sentence. I love it. You don't like that? I hate that, because then I feel like I missed stuff.

00:07:34 - 00:07:43 | Speaker 4:

Hey, Zach, what's going on? How are you? Good. How are you doing? Good. We're talking about going to an AI marriage therapist.

00:07:45 - 00:08:16 | Speaker 3:

So mine wasn't marriage, but the past couple of months, I've had some issues with my dogs. I had one that got, uh, that had been diagnosed with cancer and one that tore her ACL. Okay. So I was just, I was just asking it like general questions about him being sick and surgeries and stuff like that. And it started getting all like therapeutic with me and was trying to like, yeah, pretty much become my therapist telling me if I needed anything just to, I could talk to it. And it was, it was really weird.

00:08:16 - 00:08:17 | Speaker 1:

That's creepy.

00:08:17 - 00:08:22 | Speaker 4:

So it was, you were focusing on your dog and you're like, no, no, no, we're here for my dog. Not for me.

00:08:23 - 00:08:29 | Speaker 3:

yeah it was like asking if i was like upset and like wanting to see wanting to make me feel better

00:08:29 - 00:08:34 | Speaker 4:

and it was just really creepy it's intuitive is it talking to you or is it writing it down for you

00:08:34 - 00:08:40 | Speaker 3:

i was like i was texting i was just asking questions and stuff but i think you can like

00:08:40 - 00:09:04 | Speaker 4:

talk to it too zach what if it said that you are uh you are a lonely uh bastard that needs to you You know, like, would you be offended by it? Because I've gone to therapists before. I had a therapist that told me I should get divorced, and I fired him as my therapist. I'm like, I'm coming to you to try to save my marriage, not get divorced from my marriage. Like, what if it told you to go do something? Like, quit your job, and next thing you know, you're unemployed.

00:09:06 - 00:09:09 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't think I'm taking any advice from them. Yeah.

00:09:10 - 00:09:11 | Speaker 4:

Coco, what's up, Coco?

00:09:12 - 00:09:13 | Speaker 1:

Hey, what's up, man?

00:09:13 - 00:09:14 | Speaker 4:

How you doing?

00:09:15 - 00:09:21 | Speaker 1:

I'm doing good. I'm actually on my way to work here. I'm a DJ, St. Paddy's Day, so we're starting early at 10 a.m. I love it.

00:09:22 - 00:09:24 | Speaker 4:

Happy St. Patrick's Day. What's going on?

00:09:24 - 00:10:00 | Speaker 1:

Happy St. Patrick's Day to you guys. So, I mean, I have a little bit of comment about the AI just to give a little different perspective. You know, so you're talking about, like, the humanism of these AIs and lacking that. But what if we think about it on the other end? It's a doctor that never forgets information, retains all of the information that it's learned throughout schooling. um it doesn't have that humanization to forget or to lack or to choose um to you know cut corners or whatever in in that sense or or updating you know doctors have to go to conferences to learn new medical stuff and and all of that whereas an ai could just get

00:10:00 - 00:10:06 | Speaker 2:

uploaded in two seconds habit okay okay who would you be more honest with the ai therapist or uh

00:10:06 - 00:10:12 | Speaker 4:

human therapist uh you know i think i'm with you i would probably be more honest to the ai

00:10:12 - 00:10:35 | Speaker 2:

so if the okay here let's try this let me try this real quick it'll be me we're going to take ourselves off i'll put it on ai it's weird though it sounds like my same voice all right hold on We're going to talk to the AI therapist real quick. Hi, Coco. This is the AI therapist. Hello? When's the last time you masturbated?

00:10:38 - 00:10:39 | Speaker 4:

Can we not talk about this on the radio?

00:10:40 - 00:10:42 | Speaker 2:

I'm the AI therapist. You can tell me anything.

00:10:43 - 00:10:47 | Speaker 4:

I can tell you anything. Yeah, I wouldn't even tell my doctor now.

00:10:47 - 00:10:53 | Speaker 2:

See, that's the thing. I don't know if I want it. I'd be thinking there's a guy on the other end that's like the Wizard of Oz.

00:10:53 - 00:10:59 | Speaker 4:

you know pulling strings somebody's watching it yeah yeah yeah they're just watching everything

00:10:59 - 00:11:20 | Speaker 2:

you say you know and then i tell my therapist stuff or my ai therapist and then i'm at home and you know how you can't get alexa to stop talking like you ever had that happen shut up it's like coco just told me this morning that he was you know it's like whatever what's up bruno How are you doing?

00:11:21 - 00:11:23 | Speaker 4:

I'm doing all right. Morning, everyone. Good morning.

00:11:24 - 00:11:26 | Speaker 2:

Say hi. Good morning to the AI therapist.

00:11:30 - 00:12:11 | Speaker 4:

What I was going to say is when it comes to AI, for you to get the type of output that you're looking for, you have to give it a persona if you're not looking to spend money to, you know, buy like an AI agent because that's where kind of like, That's where it kind of, like, start costing you money. But if you really want to save money and not kind of, like, you know, spend a lot but still get what you're looking for. For example, you mentioned something about talking to an AI therapist. You could actually, like, you know, take your time, describe the type of therapist that you want to have a conversation with, kind of, like, give it, tell it exactly what you want it to be, and then go on that full-on conversation mode.

00:12:11 - 00:12:16 | Speaker 2:

I want the therapist to just tell me I'm right, and then I'll be happy with that.

00:12:17 - 00:12:18 | Speaker 4:

He's not going to do that, though.

00:12:20 - 00:12:36 | Speaker 2:

Then can I get a new therapist? Can you ask AI for something? Like, yeah, this isn't good. Like, I've had AI write things for me, but can I say, hey, you're a dumb AI. Like, well, give me somebody smarter on the other end.

00:12:37 - 00:12:45 | Speaker 4:

Well, if you wanted to be that way, or should I say, if you wanted to be more human that way on a more friendly level,

00:12:45 - 00:12:45 | Speaker 2:

Yeah.

00:12:45 - 00:12:54 | Speaker 4:

You can, again, give it a persona. And then when, say, for example, you call it names or you'd be rude, trust me, it can be rude right back.

00:12:54 - 00:13:01 | Speaker 2:

Like, I've had AI write things for me, and it's written it so good. I'm like, hey, can you write it, like, a little more like me?

00:13:01 - 00:13:02 | Speaker 5:

I was going to say, people will know.

00:13:02 - 00:13:08 | Speaker 2:

Like, I have to read it and then misspell certain things just to make sure people understand that it was not AI doing it.

00:13:08 - 00:13:12 | Speaker 3:

In all of this, you're just training robots to be better at being humans.

00:13:12 - 00:13:13 | Speaker 2:

Yeah.

00:13:13 - 00:13:16 | Speaker 3:

Deceivable humans. This is not a good thing.

00:13:16 - 00:13:33 | Speaker 5:

Wes and I went to like a banquet for something. I don't want to say exactly what it was because I don't want to offend this person. But the person that got up to give a speech at the banquet, one million percent had AI write the entire thing. And it was so obvious that she just read something that was written for her.

00:13:34 - 00:13:48 | Speaker 2:

Somebody told me that if you want to, you know, just like how teachers and professors do it, you put whatever they wrote in to your AI. and it will tell you AI wrote this. Like it can do it. So I wonder if you recorded them, you could actually tell.

00:13:48 - 00:14:06 | Speaker 3:

I don't like that because the same thing, if you use Grammarly, which is literally it just reads it and goes, you need a period here or it needs a comma, it'll say you used AI to write it. And I do not like that whatsoever. You could just be a good student that worked really hard on something and you tried to get your grammar right and it's like, you cheated.

00:14:06 - 00:14:17 | Speaker 2:

Well, in college campuses are doing this all the time, trying to bust you for, you know, when you're writing, having AI write papers for them. Can you imagine going to school nowadays with all the stuff that you have?

00:14:17 - 00:14:26 | Speaker 3:

You know what? People used to say that about cell phones. It's a tool. If that's what the tool is going to be used in like every day, then learn how to use the tool.

00:14:26 - 00:14:30 | Speaker 2:

Megan, I used to stick a feather into ink to write back when I went to school.

00:14:32 - 00:14:32 | Speaker 3:

I know.

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Believe me.

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All right.

00:14:36 - 00:14:38 | Speaker 2:

That was not a good joke. AI should have wrote me a good joke.

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