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They can't just use mom or dad's phone to call grandma?

No, here's the thing. Grandma thinks that she should have an iPhone at seven years old because she goes to school and she should have an iPhone just in case anything happens that she can get in touch with her grandma. That's a huge one.

Honestly, God, I would be super, super mad about that one. That's different. Like, I used to get so mad when my mom would give the kids, like, junk. Like, just feed them junk all weekend. Like, Smith ends up eating. What kind of junk are we talking? Smith ends up eating, like, a sucker and kettle corn for breakfast sometimes at my mom's house. I told you she thought Nutella was healthy Because it was made from nuts for the last time And Nutella is like a treat But that was besides the point That's a big one A phone is a big one Especially at 7 years old, no way

Megan, you probably know the answer to this question here And if you don't, Google it for me Because my computer is very slow today I think my computer is getting on its last leg

Okay, ready to Google

Google, how old is the appropriate age for a kid to get a phone?

Well, that's different in every family though

Is seven way inappropriate, though? Like, is seven, like, way too young?

I would say yes. And I'm sure there are parents that would disagree with me, and maybe your child needs a phone for various reasons.

luce got an ipod that she could facetime with on wi-fi that we got for her yeah so that she could facetime me when she was at dad's house and dad when she was at my house and actually we took we ended up taking it away from her because it just got like she could text and then she was you know there there were some texts that we were like we're probably not ready for this yet so she Was she doing mirror selfies? Did she get in? Yes, she was. She's my child. Yes, she was. But we realized that even at eight, and now she's nine, it was too much for her. But I will say, I mean, for Christmas, my mom got Smith an electric scooter after I repeatedly told her no. Wow. Because he's like me. He's the klutziest human being on the face of the planet. And we haven't opened it yet. I said, I don't really think that's a good idea. I don't really know about this one. And then lo and behold, he opened it on Christmas Eve.

You told her specifically, no, you can't. Please don't. Yeah.

So Google says you got to wait until at least eighth grade. But I will say I was much younger when I got my cell phone granted. It was not a smartphone. But I do think one of the missing factors here is parents who are divorced. A lot of people don't have home phones anymore. And when you have kids that share a household, it's the only way to stay in contact with both parents.

Yeah. You know what? But mom and dad should be making that decision, not grandma.

Mom and dad totally agreed with you on that one. But I feel like sometimes mom and dad always don't see eye to eye on this one either.

All right. I want to take calls on this. 844-MOJO-LIVE, 844-665-6548. Here's the thing I want you to call about, though. What did grandma or grandpa or auntie or uncle buy for your kids that you had to say no to? Because it was just too much. In this case, obviously, the cell phone, Shannon's case, the electric scooter, 844-665-6548. Or if you text, we're calling you because I want to get you on the phone. There's some really good text up there, Lydia. We've got to get some of those ones, including the person that bought a gun. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Stacy? Yes. How are you? We're good. What's going on?

I have a perspective that I think sometimes people need to reflect on. This is from a mom that raised children and had amazing parents. Parents try so hard to do everything so right that grandparents have done it. And if you respect your parents, sometimes you need to step back and say, okay, why would my parent do this? So the cell phone, it's a big thing. But they're trying to nurture a relationship between a grandparent and a child. and me going through life that's one of my greatest relationships was with my grandparents yes you should have had a discussion with the parents but the parents sometimes need to relax and sometimes

I agree on a lot of a lot of things except for the phone because the phone brings about so many other issues with kids yeah

but I think parents coddle their kids so much and then you let them go and they're going to fall you need to let them fall

but at 7 years old Nope. No phone.

I think this.

That's a big one at seven.

Here's the thing. I think grandma, you know, grandmas and grandpas have to be the safe zone. They have to, like, I feel like, like in our case with our kids, Chelsea's parents are the only grandparents that my kids have kind of really gotten a chance to know. They knew my dad, but my dad was really not a hands-on grandpa. And Chelsea's grandma and grandpa are the grandparents that have always said, when mom and dad say no, grandma and papa say yes. But they would never disrespect, you know, Chels or myself with some of the things that they would do. I think you have to, like, you know, otherwise you're going to raise a brat. So I think that in certain cases, I think that grandma needs probably to, you know, in this case especially. She needs a boundary. Yeah, she needs a little bit of a boundary.

Like candy, slime, toys, whatever. I get that. It might piss me off. I know. Slime, it might get you.

Only slime in grandma's house.

Overall, it's harmless. I'm just saying something is big as a phone. It's like, God, that opens the door to so many other things.

Dominga.

Hello?

Hi. What did grandpa buy your kids?

He bought my daughter an iPad for her first present at six months old.

An iPad at six months old.

Yeah, she was six. That was eight years ago. Yeah. Yeah.

yeah did he not understand the idea though about you know it's going to take a while for her to

figure out how to use that it was the first grandbaby so he was like obsessed with her yeah but i was caught by surprise i'm like um an ipad at six months i don't know about that yeah that's

by the way at that point right there it's not the same as the buying the phone just so you can communicate back and forth that is the dad that is grandpa who probably went to the store and had

no idea what to buy you know what i mean the sad part is by the time that baby is old enough to use the ipad they're gonna have to buy a different version uh jody what's happening it's mojo in the

morning good morning guys good morning now this was not a grandparent who was this it was my uncle

my mom's brother and you know he's the beer drinker of the family so it was my daughter's seventh birthday and we had the birthday party for her and she opens it up and it was a bb gun yep not not never less to say like my parents they live up north so um at the time they lived here but now they live up north so we saved that and now we took her up there and then she has pretty good aim we set up a target but but you didn't let her have it at that time though right not at that time no i waited till about 10 years old and then she got some practice up north using

it okay uh laurie hi hi how are you good this was your son's uncle your brother that bought

your son something very interesting my daughter he bought my daughter daughter a fishing boat a

A boat, like an actual boat boat, like a big boat. Mike's like, bring it on. Yeah, yeah, I'll take that.

A fishing boat.

Yes. And how old was your daughter?

Nine.

She was nine years old.

And how much did that cost you long-term? It's still sitting in the driveway. We haven't used it.

Wait, oh, so this is recent.

Stop it.

Wait, was he? Yeah. Yeah. How long ago was it?

Say that again. Three years ago.

Three years ago.

Oh, girl, get on Facebook Marketplace and make some money.

Yes. Although your daughter has to sign off on the, I don't know, the registration of the thing.

Yeah, it was about $6,000 when we looked it up. Oh, my God. Yeah. I almost died.

He wants her to be a fisherman.

Yeah.

He wants her hanging out at Bass Pro Shop.

Yeah.

I like that.

Something she'll never forget, right?

That's crazy. Michelle, what's happening?

Hi. Good morning. Good morning.

Good morning. This is the grandma, guys. This is the grandma that buys everything for the grandkids.

Yes, I'm one of them grandmas that I probably, well, my daughter has given me boundaries, but I'm not, I guess, a respectful grandparent. I look at it like this. There are things that I wish I could have done when my little ones were small that for financial reasons I couldn't, so I want to afford my grandbabies every opportunity. I feel like I missed the mark for my own kids, and I get them anything. They have cash apps, I send them money, I door dash lunch to school, you name it, I do it. Me and my daughter have lots of trouble with this, but when I get them something that's over her boundaries, she takes it away. So, and puts it away, she'll sell it, she'll give it back to me, and that's the end of that. But it hasn't deterred me from being a more respectful, I guess, daughter to my daughter.

But can you spoil the grandkids While still staying within the boundaries Of what mom has set Well I guess yes But that's no fun She's like I guess but I'm not doing it I do love the fact that you did call in To say that you don't respect boundaries And you're proud of it I love it I love that you're standing behind it

My grandkids call me extra You know I mean if there's some Crazy thing like I went on a field trip With my grandkids and we booked out of the field trip. I drove them home. We were down in Detroit, and we went, and I don't even have a Facebook or a TikTok, but I took my grandkids and my little group, and we did TikToks all over Detroit.

Wait, what did the school think about you taking off from the field trip?

Well, we could sign out. They had permission beforehand, so it was planned, and we went on the phone number.

I want her to adopt me.

We went to the Coney.

Can I call you grandma, and can I call you from time to time for an item that I would like to have?

Oh, within boundaries. Oh, now there are boundaries.

Annette just did this. Annette bought her five-year-old granddaughter a phone. And how did that go over with mom and dad? I don't know if it was your son or daughter that's...

It was my daughter. My granddaughter, she's five, and I bought her a cell phone. So, but, I mean, my daughter didn't say anything. What do you think a five-year-old needed a cell phone for versus an iPad or other tablet?

To keep in contact.

She loves to call me. Okay.

She always sends me all these emojis, the smiling faces, and the stars. And I get about 20 texts from her every day. Okay.

Does she send you poop emojis?

Probably sometimes, yeah.

Probably sometimes.

You know, she's five. But still, she loves to call me, and she loves to take pictures. And these days, I mean.

And you never asked for permission to buy her that phone? Do you feel like you have to ask for permission or no?

No.

No? All right. I'm not crossing you, by the way.

I mean, I'm Oma. I'm allowed to do this.

Oma. I love it.

Yeah, Omas are allowed to do this.

All right.

Germans are allowed to do this.

At any point, did you ever wish that you didn't give your five-year-old grandchild a phone because they were annoying the crap out of you?

No, no.

All right.

No, not really.

All right. Well, thank you for the call.

You're welcome.

All right. Take care of yourself. By the way, the last two grandmas that we talked to were never going to change their opinion on this.

They do not give two cares. They don't care.

They give care less. They've already been there, done that, and they're not going to actually be changed.

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