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Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I talk to composer Mark Shaman. It's about the hang. It's the pleasure of hanging out with the people that you're with. You know, Rob and I was always a great hang.

And director Morgan Neville. Film school teaches you all the wrong things about making documentary. What do you want to say? Documentary is all about your ear. What do you hear? I feel like my job is listening really, really hard.

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All right, it's Mojo in the morning. So this is a weird story. I can't say who the person is. I wanted to actually see if it would come on the air with us, but he would not go on the air because he found out through a friend. There's a room. If you found out that there was a rumor of somebody that you knew that was really, really kinky, like, like crazy kinky, would you be devastated to know it was your brother? Like, would that be, or your sister? Like, if you found out that your sister was like total kink freak, would you go, oh my gosh, I didn't realize that. Like, you know, like what's going on? So a friend of mine was telling me a story about how there is a rumor going around that his brother and his sister-in-law are kind of kinky, that his brother is a watcher.

What is that?

Here we go. His brother watches his wife, his sister-in-law, have sex with other guys.

See that's even worse It's already worse if you find out They're into the kinky stuff But if the kinky stuff is them looking at other people

Like not only are you into kinks

But you also I've never understood being a watcher Like I've never understood He just like He like sits in a chair like in his bedroom While other men come Other men come over to his house And rail his wife You know It's like what in the world are you thinking i i don't get it like i i'm gonna say this to you first off i don't want to be the watcher and i don't want to be the watchy i don't know if that's what it's called but could you imagine like i want you to picture this hypothetically speaking picture that i was a watcher and i'm sitting in my lazy boy chair you know the the the corner of my bedroom and i'm watching some guy come over and have sex with chelsea i don't get it you shake his hand when

walk in.

Can I get you something to drink? Follow me. You know?

So, okay, here's my other question. Is that something then, because you said he has only heard this through the rumor mill. Is that something then that he goes to his brother about and is like, hey, I heard this about you and Kathy. Is it true?

If I found out that my brothers, Tony or my brother Bill, were watchers, I would go to them instantly and say,

what the hell's wrong with you you know and if it's my sister and i find out to use your word yeah she's getting railed by randos while her husband is watching

you seriously i would not say a dang thing i would pretend i did not know absolutely never would i want to have and my especially my youngest sister and i we're really close like we share a lot but i do not want to have that conversation with her what she does

with her husband that is have good for you here here's the question for this topic who do you know that is rumored to have the kinkiest relationship

And who are they to you? Like, who is the person that has the kinkiest relationship, and what is their kinky that they do? And who are they to you? Because if I found out that, you know, like, listen, I have heard in the past that some members of the show are kinky.

Really? What's their kink?

I don't know, but I've heard.

Yes, you do.

I've heard that some of the members of the show.

I need some of your balls.

or have a little bit of, you know, I don't know.

Stop talking about my business.

I'm a ball grabber.

I heard. I heard. And we're not kink-shaming. No. It sounds like it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I need balls. You want to know how I know you're lying? Did you hear how hot-pitched that's happening? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, And you could literally put any dog breed in there and make that sentence funny.

What would you rather Megan be? Into puppy play or a watcher? Which one would be to you, Kiki?

I think that she, no, Megan's active. She can't just stand by and not put her hands in. Yeah, Megan, she's not watching. If I was watching, though, it would be with a pint of ice cream. I'd just be sitting there. I'd be like, hmm.

All right, Mojo in the morning. Hannah, what's up?

Hi, good morning. How are you all doing?

We're doing okay, Hannah. First off, who is the kinkier person, your relationship to you?

It's actually me. Oh, gee. Wait, is this the cookies, Hannah? Uh-oh.

You weren't supposed to say that. Sorry, I didn't. You should use an alias. Here, hold on. I'm putting you over to voice this, guys. Hi, how are you?

Hello, how are you?

Wait, what is your kink? What is the kink?

I really am into other girls, and I didn't know that until I was in a relationship with a man. And now we just like to have threesomes.

Oh. I would like to have a threesome with you and another girl you trust. That is amazing.

Yeah. So now the threesome thing, is it more than you ever thought you would have? Like it's more than just once or twice or three times?

It's been a few times, and we're like still open to it. I think that it's just like fun and if you trust your partner enough then you kind of get over the oh what if and you just really enjoy yourself I mean I'm a very passionate person so I like to share my passion with other people and if I can do it that way I think it's fun I think it's really fun and both of us really enjoy it so I see nothing wrong with it I just hope my sister

and parents never find out you know yes well they just did if they've known our relationship with you uh her voice yeah we love you we love you keep baking those cookies thank you uh oliver what's up hey how you guys doing good we're uh talking right now about uh the kinky people that

you know in your life are you one of these kinky people uh yeah i kind of got turned into one i I wasn't the watcher. I was the one being watched.

You were the watcher? Who was the watcher?

This lady's husband. I used to, like, work at a resort, and I worked on the pool deck, and they came up and talked to me while I was working and got my information from me and then met me later in their room.

Wow. Is it weird knowing that there's a guy looking at you with his wife?

it was at first and then i kind of forgot that he was there so you obviously were attracted to his wife or were you just more curious of course okay see who well a little bit of both but yeah

who came up to you first with this idea the guy okay like they were sitting at like the bar and

like i was walking by them so what does he say motioned me over and started talking to me what did he say to you they just like they just started like asking me questions about like how it was working here and what did i do for fun around and what i was into and then he kind of like brought it out and was like you want to be with my wife while i watch and i was

like um seriously now what was weirder being watched or doing it at your job

Thank you.

well i didn't do it at my job oh i guess technically yeah did they make you wear the pool boy costume i mean no i because i went home and changed so i didn't have my work clothes on so that way nobody would

know did they pay you or it was just an experience type of thing uh it was an experience type of

thing i'm that they do it more often i'm assuming wow that's crazy a lot of watchers by the way on the uh the phone with us this morning um who had been ben's been how many times have you done this

ben so i've never actually done it but my wife and i have been together for a total of six years and in that six years we've been at five times if i would be the watchy so um if i would you know bake cookies with somebody else's wife essentially your wife wouldn't let you do it it's not that it's just we're not uh those type of people um it's and we've never given any sort of inkling that we were but like some of these people were people that like my wife had been friends with for a long time or you know people that found us through like twitter that like live nearby um that's craziness huh one yeah there's one that reached out to my wife and was like like over dms on twitter i was like hey like my wife thinks your husband is really hot like i would love to like watch him blah blah blah and like a lot of these people have kids so like if i'm at your house at like three in the morning and they wake up do i have to sneak out or how does that yeah

that would be weird i don't want this to come from a place of shame and i'm just so curious i would love to talk to one of these guys that wants to watch their wife because like what are what is the the pleasurable part of the experience like what it would be the most awful thing ever i that

That, to me, is crazy. But it's amazing that he says it comes out of their friendships. And I just can only imagine, like, you're inviting a whole bunch of people over and you're eating, like, a buffalo chicken dip, you know?

I love how you and I both said we'd be eating in the corner watching. I would. Seriously. What does that say about us? Do you direct or do you just watch? That's another thing I want to know.

I don't know. Well, that's the thing. I wonder if that's the case. Angela, go back to the whole idea that your sibling is the person doing this. Angela, are you there?

Yeah, I'm here.

You are like my friend in the fact that you have a brother that is the kinky one, and you found this out about him?

Yeah, I don't know how it came about, but one year we just found out that him and his girlfriend, they go to sex parties at hotels, or sometimes they host them, and now it's just become a big joke at the holidays.

Oh, you guys joke in front of your families and stuff?

Oh, yeah. My mom knows about it. We all just make fun of them. Bro, your mama knows? Oh, yeah. What does she say? Is she cool with this? Yeah, she don't care. You're an adult. Do what you want.

Oh, my God. Could you imagine if you were at a hotel to, like, treat your kids to a surprise fun night with an indoor pool and there was a sex party happening on your floor?

Can I imagine? Does anybody know of any? Oh, my gosh. Remember the Sterling Inn used to have that big old water tubes and stuff like that?

No, that's exactly what I'm thinking. Yes. Yeah, I remember that.

Initial D wants to be Voiceless, guys. How would you like this? What's going on, Dee?

I learned a couple years ago that my twin sister and her husband are swingers. And not only swingers, but they opened up their own, they call it a social club.

Oh, wow.

And I was going through a divorce. And so I ended up actually helping her with the business. and I too would kind of participate but not with my sister we had our rules

wait would you ever have sex with her husband so you could see what it would be like to have sex with twins

god no we had a rule that if anybody played with one of us that person was off limits but I got to see my sister do a lot of weird stuff she was definitely the kinky one I call her the nut crusher She made this device where she put something, and it would hold the mint jewels in it and step on them. And I would...

That hurts. I'm hurting right now. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. By the way, this is a family that normally would carve pumpkins together. That's a different family business. She carving it.

Yeah, they bought a house and turned it into a party place. and all the bedrooms have special themes and the basement's a dungeon.

Oh, man.

These people live among us.

What town is this? What town?

It is not in Michigan.

Okay. Where is it?

I can't say.

Ohio?

We still have a lot of fun. No.

No. No Michigan, no Ohio. Oh, my God.

It's not. Yeah. So I would go out there very often, and I have a lot of friends, and I will say that I never look at people the same because everybody looks like a swinger to me now.

Isn't that funny?

Everybody like.

Who on our show looks more like a swinger out of all of us?

I was just going to ask that. You do. Thank you.

By the way, I'll see you in Kentucky. Wait, Cody has a question. What's your question, Cody?

Hey, guys. So if a voyeur is a watcher and a cuck is one who watches their spouse, what would be the person's watching their stepsister is what you said?

No, his sister-in-law.

Oh. His sister-in-law. So would he still be a voyeur or a cuck?

I don't know. That's a new word for me.

I'm going to Wikipedia.

I'll be right back.

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I talk to composer Mark Shaman. It's about the hang. It's the pleasure of hanging out with the people that you're with. You know, Rob and I was always a great hang.

And director Morgan Neville. Film school teaches you all the wrong things about making documentary. What do you want to say? Documentary is all about your ear. What do you hear? I feel like my job is listening really, really hard.

Listen to Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

Paul Verzi here, and I want to talk to you about Paul's best podcast. I'm Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio. I sit down each week with a special guest, and we discuss the absolute best of things. It's that, and then there's everything else. Dude, his whole life has sounded like the first drop of a roller coaster.

I mean, I can't even tell you, Paul, how crazy he was. It was insane.

Listen to Paul's Best Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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