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Mojo. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Ignition sequence start. Let me take y'all back to the beginning. This is it.

All right, are you ready?

You're listening to Mojo in the morning.

You're a doo-doo head Mojo on the Morning Phone number 844-MOJO-LIVE Text is 95500 if you call us. Know that we want you on the radio. Tell us if you're a first time, long time. We'd love to be able to get you on the air with us and shout you out. Kevin has a little bit of, I don't know, we'd say a little disagreement going on between you and Sherelle.

Yeah, but it's one of those things where I guess I'm at a point now where, and you've all told me before, choose your battles. So I don't want to say disagreement because I've already bowed out gracefully and I'm no longer having the conversation. You've waved the white flag already. The white flag is waved. The tail's between my legs. I surrender. Sherelle does not believe that Josiah is at a point in his life where he can stay home alone. And I believe that he can. Really? Okay, and Josiah's your son. Josiah's my son. And he is how old? He is 11 years old, and he can stay at home alone.

That's what you say.

That's what I say. And what does Sherelle say? So literally today, Sherelle has some errands to run. I'm like, she's like, either I can take Josiah to your mom's, or I can bring him to the station at like 9 o'clock. I'm like, bro, just leave him at home. He'll be fine. For how long? It don't even matter. It does.

But why? Because I think it does. Okay, why? Because is he going to be home alone all day or is he going to be home alone for an hour from, you know?

So she's going to be gone all day. Okay. So let's say she leaves at 9 o'clock. I'll go home whenever we wrap things up here. Let's just say 1 o'clock at the latest. Let's just say that. Sorry, Megan, I'll leave earlier than you. 1 o'clock at the latest. Is that doable? No.

9 to 1?

That's still...

So I'm a nervous Nelly. And I probably wouldn't. I agree with Sherelle. See, here's my thing. The reason I say how long is like sometimes I'll tell Lucy, hey, when you get off the bus, mom's going to be like 10 or 15 minutes behind you. Just let yourself in through the garage. I will be right there. And even that makes me a little nervous. I'll be honest. She's 10.

Here's my thing. If we're all in the house together, it's not like Josiah's up under her arm. He's going to be in his room on a computer on Roblox anyway. So it's, quote, unquote, not like anybody's watching him. He knows how to heat up Pop-Tarts and grab pizza rolls. Wait a second.

You're going to let him heat up Pop-Tarts and pizza rolls, put pizza rolls in the oven?

No. I put my pizza rolls in the microwave. Okay. You throw them in and ba-ba-ba, 90 seconds, you're good to go. Ba-ba-ba. Ba-ba-ba. Yeah. Ba-da-boom, ba-da-bing. He can do that. He can feed himself. He's going to be on the tablet or watching TV. What if he chokes?

The cooking makes me nervous. Cooking makes me nervous only because I was like 23 and still setting my oven on fire. So like that I get. But I was left home alone like pretty frequently when I was that age.

At what age did you guys start getting left home alone?

Well, I mean, I don't think he'd get upset by this. I've talked about my dad traveled for a living when I was growing up. And then when he was a single dad, my brother moved back home, but my brother also had, like, a full-time job. So, like, my brother was living at the house, so I was never home alone at night. But I would come home from school or whatever, probably at the age of 13, 14, 15, and then be home alone until my brother got off.

See, that to me is okay. I don't know. Like, the 10, the 9, 10, 11, 12 is where I'm, like, I don't know.

But I was babysitting the neighbor kids at, like, 12.

See?

So I was in charge of younger kids.

But you were also probably close to your house and your mom or your dad was there with you?

You're acting like he's not close by. Like, if Josiah called and said, I need you here right now, how long would it take you to get there?

Seven minutes. Because I'm flooring you. 17, because you'd go through Chipotle's driveway. Heather, what are your thoughts on Kev leaving Josiah alone?

well i was just saying that um i think it's completely acceptable you know your child and you know how they behave and if you call the police and ask them they will tell you at that

parent's discretion wait what's the age though what's the age at parent's discretion

there is no minimum age in the state of michigan there's no way that there's there is no way that

you can parent discretion and a five-year-old i guarantee you there's gotta be there's gotta

I mean, obviously that wouldn't work, obviously. But if you think that your kid is able to stay home alone because they're self-sufficient or they're pretty responsible or they're rather mature, it's okay.

We hear these stories all the time of people who leave their kids in their car with the windows cracked and their kids are in the car and they go into the casinos and stuff. I get it. You're leaving them in your car compared to in your house, but you're still leaving them alone. I don't think that is right.

By the way, she is right. There is, for whatever reason, in the state of Michigan, there is no law that... Age limits? The Michigan law does not specify a minimum age for leaving a child home alone. The decision is ultimately up to the parents. However, a Child Protective Services report could be filed for leaving a child 10 or younger home alone. 10 or younger.

I'm safe. What's up, Amanda? Hi.

Good morning, guys. Good morning. Hi. My son's 11. and we don't want him to stay home by himself, even though he is more mature than my 19- and 17-year-old.

Yeah, we don't. What's your reasoning?

Why does he make me nervous?

Why do you not leave him home alone just to play devil's advocate? Because I agree with you. I wouldn't do it either.

Well, it just makes me nervous.

Yeah. Mojo, what are you worried about?

A fire.

Somebody breaking in. All it takes is one.

Fire especially, yeah.

Yeah, all it takes is one thing to happen, and you'll never be able to live with yourself if that happens.

Yep. So all of a sudden, a fire is just going to break out.

Well, you never, I mean, when does a fire break out? It doesn't get timed, right?

What I'm saying, typically, there's an action that creates a fire. In most cases, I would say.

But you live in a community where you've got attached places. Betty downstairs or whatever it was. Beverly. Beverly downstairs, you know. Here's the thing. I think Josiah is more mature than I am. Like, I would trust Josiah more than I would trust me. But all it takes is one thing bad to happen. And what's the, Sherelle gave you the option. Bring him here to the station. He can hang out with us for a little bit. He don't need to, though. He's more entertaining than you sometimes.

I don't disagree.

Actually, I love having him on the air. We haven't had it in a while. What's up, April? What do you think?

Hey, guys. First time in a long time.

Hey!

Thank you for calling.

period turn, but I just had a funny comment. I was just going to say Kev's wrong because he put pizza rolls in the microwave. That is true. How is that wrong? That is true. I

can't be the only one that operates that way. I do as well, but I will say they are better

if I'm patient and I put them in the oven. What about the air fryer? Air fryer is the best, actually. Air fryer. Okay. By the way, Josiah should not be working any of these

things what's going on linda oh crazy hi um i leave my son home he is 11 uh while i go to work i'm a single mom i moved to ohio and i have no family here and i really don't have a whole lot of friends i usually base it off of how mature he is um he does have a phone he does know how to call me i know that he usually just sits at home and plays on video games he knows not to open the door for anybody um and i do check on him through my google nest that kind of a thing um so i do believe that it can be based off of how mature they are ohio is also a state that does not have an age limit so they base it off of maturity um so i do leave him there but It's more because I can't afford a babysitter, and I kind of don't have other options.

And that is so awful that we have to worry about this because of child care, because child care is so bad in our country. What's going on, Laura? Hi.

Hi, guys. How are you? Good morning.

You scared me there for a second. What's going on?

I was full muted. I was ordering breakfast.

Oh, no.

I was just going to say, I agree with Kev. My son is 9. He's about to be 10. He's home alone quite frequently. I mean, I'm Canadian, so I live across the border. And last weekend, I had to go across to get something for my uncle, and he stayed home.

Wait, you crossed the border and left him home alone?

Yeah, I did.

What happens if you got held up by immigration and they wouldn't let you cross?

We have tons of neighbors in the neighborhood. It's a very, like, city, I mean, a very child-friendly neighborhood. So he knows, like, he knows who our safe neighbors are. He knows where to go. He's known all of this because, similar to the caller before, I'm a single parent. So for many years, like, he's had to come home and I was at work. And he had to let himself in the house for the last few years, especially with COVID. And I, it's just got, sometimes it's what you got to do.

That's so fun. We have somebody from Child Protective Services. Casey from CPS on the phone with us right now. You there? Would you like to have me arrest him for you? Citizens arrest? Would you like us? Should we take away his parental rights?

No, I actually agree with Kev. There we go. I work for Child Protective Services, and this is something we deal with a lot, But I think just based on what Kev says, maturity of what he says about Josiah, try giving that a couple hours and see how he does and check in. Like Shannon said, too, there's not a law in the state of Michigan. It's based on maturity of your child. And most parents know their child better than a stranger or public opinion. So here's a question. I agree with Kev on that law.

You agree with Kevin, but if something happens at that house in a fire or, you know, he hurts himself, he falls out of bed and cracks his head open, whatever, if he is hurt and taken to the hospital, CPS is one of the first that will be called, right, to investigate what's going on?

Yes and no, but if he has, if he's left without some form of proper care and custody or couldn't

So what is proper care and custody then?

Uh, that he has access to a phone or an adult in the case of an emergency, um, somebody that could come if he was hurt, safe. I mean, accidents happen all the time, right? We can't live in a, we're a very reactive world. Um, so as long as he has those tools and somebody knows he's home alone or, uh, can have access. And like I said, if, if need be, he could be there in seven minutes.

Does that work for you to take the mojo? Cause you interrogate her. I am interrogating her. Yes, i am i i am interrogating her because i josiah is like my nephew and if anything happens to

anything happens to a hair on your freaking head i will come and get you would he feel comfortable being alone because okay so because lucy absolutely refuses like even when i know that i'm not going to be there when it's school time that i'm not going to be there to meet the bus for whatever reason i have to have somebody make sure to meet her she will not be in my house without me a piece

Or the dilemma or the dichotomy between the two households, because we do have split and share parenting with this.

logical mother is that she is a quote-unquote single mother she doesn't have you know she doesn't live with anyone else so he's he stays at home sometimes alone okay so he's used to it

do you think lucy's just scared of not doing it before because i remember being terrified the first time i was left home alone and being like something's gonna happen and then like the second time you're like yeah that's fine it's fine being home alone was so late i got the evidence uh that's

going to push this case over to the top. Call CPS lady. I just got a call, or just got a text message from an anonymous texter that said that Josiah does not have a cell phone. He has literally two iPads. He does not have a cell phone. He has two iPads. We FaceTime all the time. What happens if the Wi-Fi goes down? Here you go. Case closed. I agree with Sherelle. Thank you, Sherelle. You would agree with Sherelle. I love her.

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