was tony who is like the biggest advocate of joe's like he's been he's been such a a huge tony's our boss tony travato we talk about him on the show but he actually is the biggest um you know fan of joe's and has been so instrumental in his career and you're right spike i i try to back off i try to give joe advice but i try not to give people up you know i actually probably to a fault of mine and i did this when i coached the kids when they were younger i never really played my kids a lot and I probably should have played them a little bit more, but I don't really try to step in the way and try to get them opportunities. They kind of try to do it themselves. So long story short, Tony said, hey, this person really wants to get together with you and do lunch, and I didn't want to do it for the longest time. Like, I was kind of putting it off, putting it off, and then Tony said, you do it for me, you know, as a favor to me, because I really would like you guys to talk again. And so I said, okay. So I got together with him. We went to lunch, and we had a very nice talk, And it was interesting because in the beginning of lunch, we're talking about things, catching up on stuff because he no longer works here. And then the awkward moment happened when he said, hey, I want to say something to you. And I knew, oh, here it's coming. And he said, I just wanted to apologize. And I don't want to give out too much information because of out of respect to him. But I know he knows that I talk about everything on the radio. And actually, I think that's one of the reasons why he and I have always gotten along so much, because he would do the same if he were on the air. And he just said, he goes, I'm really, really sorry. You know, he says, you know, I didn't mean any harm by that. He goes, it's probably a little bit of jealousy. And then he talked about, you know, Joe and said that he wants to talk to Joe and have a conversation with him because he assumes that Joe knows. And then he was very, very much talking about how he's grown over time, which honestly we all kind of have, right? We all grow in ways that hopefully are for the better. And I will say this. It's harder to say you're sorry for something and truly mean it than it ever is to ask somebody out on a date. And I know I used to always say it was the hardest thing in the world was to ask somebody out on a date when I was younger. No, it's hard to put your pride aside. and one thing I saw and I actually could see it right in his heart is that he's a changed person and honestly we had a very nice conversation and I thought it was cool and as we were leaving and we were talking about things we talked about how we're going to you know get together and in in you know share you know conversation more with each other and ideas and things like that um I said to him I said uh you know what this was really a good a good time like I really enjoyed this. And I really enjoyed doing this because it's a, it's a sign of healing, you know, when you have that. And I got in my car and as soon as I got into my car, I thought, I want to bring