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The Mojo on the Morning Show. So we have Kev with us. He's our new guy that joined the show just recently. And Kev has a little bit of a problem that I wonder if others can relate to. And that problem is, he says, he's an old-fashioned kind of guy.

Yeah.

And...

What's that? That was my old-fashioned thing.

it's my old man voice and it deals with when he goes out with his girlfriend it deals with

who's paying yeah i mean for those who didn't listen yesterday you know go back to the podcast on the iheart radio app and listen to today's show but my mom called in yesterday and if you if you could tell from my mom she raised me to be a certain way and there's some things that your parents teach you when you're younger that no matter how old you get or what life tries to teach you what they said sticks with you and my mom like drilled in me through experience like you pay for everything you pay all the bills when you guys go out on dates you gotta you know foot the bill for everything like let your lady be a queen essentially and i feel as though shirelle's love language is gift giving and i'm a terrible receiver of gifts so there are moments like yesterday for example we went to see little mermaid took josiah i'm an imagine my son took Josiah I like points right so I want to make sure that my membership number racks up everything that I get I just want to stack and stack and stack so immediately I go make sure I get my points Cheryl and Josiah immediately go to the concession stand and start ordering things like she has to figure out a way that if I don't do this without him seeing he's going to slap the card down before

I can even get a chance so she has to fight you to pay for things yeah she'll just immediately

pull out the card or like go somewhere else it's already taken care of and how does that make you

feel when you realize that she has already paid for all the concession stuff which we know that's

more expensive than even the movie i feel like well she didn't allow me to use my points so we had like wait hold on so she paid for it but then you said hold on a second i know you already paid

for it but can you use my frequent i told the guy my imagine card here's my cell phone number you're like the lady that shopped behind me at kroger the other day and said she wanted to use

her kroger number on my order we got it they're there for a reason but yeah it's kind of like you know when people say you're doing a great job and you don't know how to take a compliment I feel like it's in the same area like I don't know how to just say thank you I get all weird and then when Sherelle wants to pay I get all weird I don't know how to do it well you're just

not used to it I am but seriously because your mama taught you a certain way and probably in every relationship you know before this you you people just let you I think most guys are like that i do too but to to to see this from shirelle's point of view um it also is really nice to be able to pay sometimes because it and i might be this might be my my own personal opinion but does get uncomfortable after a little while like I want to be able to feel like I'm contributing as well and I'm not just like mooching you know off of you paying all of the time like I was your fiance with that like it it took a while for him to let me pay and we I finally had to like actually have a somewhat serious conversation and say like I like paying I am able to pay I'm blessed enough to be able to pay it makes me feel weird if you are constantly paying like I want to share the responsibility here with you and he got it he still gives me a hard time about it but it's

gotten a lot better yeah that's how i am with my girlfriend megan whenever we go out megan gets so mad at me with paying she gets we went out to uh have breakfast uh kp lydia megan myself and actually kevin and by the way i'd noticed he didn't reach for the bill at all for that he only feels this way with his girl he doesn't feel this way with his guy yeah mojo's got money but Megan gets really upset about it like she gets like very upset to the point that she has threatened that she'll never eat with me ever again well first of all I hate feeling like

a leech like it's funny coming from me because I always joke about wanting to steal people's money but like truly I hate when I feel like I'm not contributing or that yes I know that I I'm not using you for your money obviously when we're going out but it feels like well I'm just going out because he's buying or i fight with my dad a lot about this because my dad refuses to let me pay anytime we go out and i i actually legitimately yelled at him and i said you don't have to buy my time like i don't i feel like you're you're paying to spend time with me and that makes me feel less than i just want to spend time with you because i enjoy you as a human but then i feel less than when it comes to the end of the thing and it kind of taints the whole experience see i

never thought that that somebody would feel less than but that that's interesting that's an

interesting point no i'm not saying that like every time somebody pays i'm like oh my god but if i can never contribute i don't want to hang out with you because i don't feel equal right yeah

yep listen this text message here i don't know if you were trying to call them but kevin's thinking sounds so toxic men are not obligated to pay for everything because they're a man i'm so tired of hearing this old-fashioned men talk.

I don't think it sounds... I would never use the word toxic.

I think if I can put my mind

where the texture is coming from. Call that person. I want to know if it's a man or a woman texting that. It's got to be a woman, I'm assuming, right? Texting that? Or is there a guy? Because no guy. I don't think guys are talking about toxic.

You're not saying you are not letting her pay. You're just saying you've been raised a certain way. This is what you want to do for her, but she is pushing back a little bit.

He also controls her ordering, too. Like he's not allowed to order certain things

That's where I think people are coming from Like I don't use this as a control tactic

So I can like control everything in the relationship

It's not that

You do it as love By the way do you ever do this When she's paying and you know she's paying Do you ever order something less Because you don't want her to have to pay for more I never know she's paying Oh really? Yeah Because I've had that happen before Where I've gone out to eat And actually Shannon you were the one That were like I'm paying for the pill And I feel honestly bad That all I want is the big You know the steak that has the big old Flintstone bone on the top The one that The steak that's on the menu that you go How do they charge $100 for a steak That's craziness Hold on here's the toxic person that's on the phone Who is this?

Hello

What's your name?

My name's Carissa I think that this type of thinking Is super toxic It's It's like men feel demasculated when they're not able to pay and there's nothing wrong with a woman being able to pay just because you're a man you are not obligated to pay for everything but how is that

toxic demasculated might be a good word but not toxic i think it's toxic when it's to the point

that you are like it's a causing fights in your relationship or um like i i've i've seen like um like i'm single and i've seen on the dating apps and stuff where men will be

i didn't do anything no he didn't he didn't i'm watching him you laughed at her when she said She was single, and then all of a sudden we lose her.

How did I laugh at her? I didn't laugh.

You just chuckled when she said, I'm single. You went, I got him on video. He didn't do it. I got him on video. He did not hang up on her.

Hold on, watch me pull a rabbit out of my head. I'm not saying he hung up on her, but he definitely laughed at her. I did not. What I did was I went, ugh.

I think she doesn't understand what that word means. I don't understand.

That's a very strong word.

Call back.

Call back, person.

uh what's up hazy hi how you doing good what's going on um i definitely do the whole like cinemark does this um point system for free popcorn you're 20 off i definitely take advantage of that and

they give you free tickets why would you not i like this out of the entire conversation she got the points part of the thing taylor what's going on it's mojo in the morning hey so me and my

boyfriend to split the bill like any opportunity we can we rock paper scissors to see who's going

to pay for what see taylor we've tried that the problem is i'm so good

rock paper scissors me right now are you going rock paper scissors shoot yeah okay bet rock

Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. I won. Okay, do it again. One more time. Back to three. Back to three. I won. Back to three. Do it again. One, two, three, three. I won. God damn it. I'm pretty good. What the heck? If only I could be as good at throwback photos.

What was Shannon saying? Rock, paper, three, three, three? What was that? He was doing it so damn fast.

I'm like, what are you doing?

Courtney, what's going on? What did you want to say about this?

I was just calling in to let you guys know that I just started seeing a guy who's a lot like kev and i have to sneak and pay for things like if he gets up and walks away or um he'll be like oh i'll pay you when you get here and i just don't mention it i won't take any money and he thinks it's cute but he really tries to be like kev and he just doesn't want me to pay for anything

do you like do you like the fact that he wants to pay or do you find it in our other caller's voice

toxic i i kind of love it because you know there's a lot of toxic men that expect things from me in the past so I'm just embracing it but have you ever gone out with guys and I'm not saying

relationship but like when we're sometimes when we date there is a presumption sometimes when a guy does always pay for stuff that he's then entitled to more and I think that's where the toxicity came in yeah I don't think it's like every man who pays every time is toxic that was a little bit extreme but there are instances where it's well I've been doing this for you so why won't you do this for me? And that would be an immediate buy. Right, but it happens regularly.

And I will say this, that if that's the case, if you're doing it and expecting that you're going to get something out of the whole deal, that's toxic. But if you're a woman that's taking and you're taking and using, that's toxic too. No, I agree. Absolutely. Misfit Ron. Hello, Ron.

Hey, it's Ron. Um, I was just calling to say that I think I think about this all the time about, like, the gender roles and, like, how the guy traditionally has to do this. But I feel like all of the time women always want to be equal with everything, but I don't feel like it's that case. I feel like women always want to pick and choose what they want to be equal. Like, the guy always has to pay for everything or has to do all the hard chores.

But so far, literally every woman calling in says, I don't want the man to pay for everything.

No, I understand that. But that's maybe the few people. But I feel like as a broader picture of the world, I feel like with the traditional ways of like the guy pays on the first date or like the guy basically has to pay for everything. And I just feel like in general that I don't. Women aren't equal. Got it.

Hey, real quick, Misfit Ron.

You guys are saying, yeah, yeah, I don't even understand.

Ron wants a woman who cleans gutters.

Yeah, and he doesn't think women are equal.

Misfit Ron, can I ask you this question? Are you married or single?

I'm married, for sure.

Mojo can't believe it.

Really? He's too stunned to speak.

Wowee. All right, well, thank you for the call, Ron. Appreciate it.

Love you. Yeah, of course. Thank you.

All right. I wanted Megan to know that was equal opportunity with my

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