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All right, it is the Mojo in the Morning show. This show talks about a lot of stuff. I mean, we talk about everything, goofy things, but we also get serious from time to time. And something that we want to do also is inform. And I think that that is an opportunity that is honestly never taken lightly by any of us. Kev this morning wants to talk a little bit this morning. What's going on?

Yeah, I guess the topic at hand is mental health and the conversation that needs to be had from it. My family and I have been going through a real tough time. I feel like over the course of a few years, a few years ago, someone in my family was diagnosed with bipolar schizophrenia. And it was a situation that came out of nowhere. nobody expected it nobody saw signs that this was happening but we saw changes in the person whether it been them just acting erratic not acting like the person that we've known and love and have grown to know our entire lives and it ended up requiring us to have that person hospitalized and after having them hospitalized and getting them on medication slowly but surely you start to see the person that you once knew and loved return to that and never having experienced anything like this or not having the knowledge or the tool or the know-how, you think, okay, my person is back to being my person. And appointments start to fall off. You don't start to be as consistent as you were once upon a time. And I would say within the last three or four months, we've started to see those same symptoms return. And it's resulted in us having to have that person hospitalized again. And it's just been a real struggle, man. And it's almost like you you want that person to be who they are and it's like you love them no matter what but it's like hard to love like this new version and you can't do anything about it for real because they're an adult so you can't make them do certain things or they don't even believe that what they're experiencing is reality because they have their own reality and it's just been a real tough you know a few months for real is it hard for you to talk about um because i know you want to keep the anonymity and all that stuff i have to yeah it's hard but it's also necessary because i haven't been the best version of myself for quite some time because it's almost like i can't flow and have fun and talk about other stuff when the most pressing thing you can't talk about yeah so it's

like i need to get this out in a way well and i want listeners to know this um kev is we've known that kev's been struggling with this and some people have said that they've listened to the show and they can hear cab be wild and go wild and stuff i think some of his go wild things that have happened and you kind of getting and also kind of being quiet at times has been because of the stuff that you're dealing with family wise so you got a lot in your brain bro and it's hard to

and that's the thing like people say like leave and i'm trying to do a better job of like leaving stuff at the door yeah and walking into the studio and being you know who i am in here but

is we're dealing with it in our family too somebody is is struggling really really badly with their mental health and the the you feel helpless because you're looking at the person and physically they look the same to you it's that person but you're like where where are you in there and that that feeling of helpless Let's go.

which I'm sure you're experiencing is one of the toughest parts like what can I do to help the situation

can I ask some questions just real quick because of this is difficult when you see somebody that you love going through this you said that the person's going through what right now

they've been diagnosed with bipolar schizophrenia so different personalities yeah lots of highs lots of lows

and is there progression is there um like a is there a time when they actually are able to deal with do they have to be medicated and stuff that's what's been recommended okay and it's tough because nobody wants to sit there and you know you take it's funny we take medication when we have cancer or we deal with whatever the diagnosis is and deal with that if we have cancer or i have i take medicine for my heart because i have heart disease but when you have something that is in your brain that you're kind of dealing with and you're ashamed to take that or you for some reason don't want to do it and then it brings that illness back out so and also when it's not you

and you want to make sure that that person is taking all of their medication or going to their

appointments to your point earlier but it's so tough when they don't believe that they're experiencing it yeah like in their mind i am who i am all of you are tripping y'all are crazy yeah i'm not the one and it's it's even harder when you have to be there for every other family member that's also experiencing it because maybe you're the backbone of the family or you're the sounding board so like not only are you able or not only do you have to figure out how to navigate your own emotions and your own personal relationship with the person but everyone else that's affected you have to also be there to handle their emotions yeah that's a lot on your plate kev

I get emotional looking at your eyes because I can tell that it's tough for you. It's way in for sure. Yeah. Lisa, what's up? It's Mojo in the morning. Hi.

Hey, I just wanted to talk to Kevin. I have, for the past 25 years, been working with people with brain diseases, dementia, schizophrenia. I have a client right now that I work with. um you kind of have to put your basically what it is that i've learned is whatever is happening in their brain whatever they're seeing and hearing and feeling at that moment you have to go with it because it's truly happening and for you to tell them what are you talking about will only make them angry and more embarrassed so you have to be so patient and be their best friend talk to them because i'm telling you with everything going on in their brain they're going to recognize you and see you as a friend and it makes it so much easier for them to talk to you because every now and then you're going to hear stuff that you're like what the heck is going on but then the real them comes back to

okay so it's like you're building relationship equity or trust with that person engaging in wherever they are at that moment and then when they come back to being the person that you know you can I guess move forward in a better way because you have that trust now right like my

one client I work with um he'll tell me all the time like we'll be driving and he's dodging moon rocks and he's laughing because somebody's saying something in his head and we talk about what's going on at that moment and I have to dodge rocks with him or tell those guys hey that's not right don't say that and he'll end up laughing and then all of a sudden he'll say you know what lisa you're my best friend ever you're the only one that really cares about me i love you and then it will go back to whatever is going on in his brain so whatever is going on at that time it's it's almost like role playing like just go with it that's all i can tell you and not not every person with schizophrenia is going to hurt themselves hurt you or is dangerous just keep that in mind too but when they're on their medication and they get used to taking it, just like you go back to the gym you start taking a new vitamin it will get easier because it becomes routine

Alright, thank you I think that the problem is that we have such a stigma to mental health and I feel like it is better than it used to be because it used to be So hush hush, nobody wanted to talk about it Yeah, so now at least people will talk about it But it's sad because many families deal with it. We deal with mental health issues in our family in a big way. And I'll tell you that it's heartbreaking. I mean, it's heartbreaking to see a family member go through any kind of an illness. Mental health illness and Alzheimer's and dementia have been two of the hardest, even harder than seeing family die of cancer or heart disease, you know, because it seems like there's no help out there for it. What's up, Nick? How you doing? I'm good. How are you? Good. What's going on? No, so, yeah, you know, the last...

caller she really touched on a lot of things kind of but uh and i'm not talking about any specific situation with anyone involved in the show but uh i think that especially situation with new mothers or women who deal with postpartum depression sure it's something that really gets uh kind of overlooked because and i specifically saw with my twin sister who was out of state uh being a single mom having her first child and uh you know she would tell me i i look at my kid and i feel bad because i almost don't care you know yeah and it's it sucks because i'm miles away and i want to help but i know there's nothing really i can do immediately

so i can come for a week and try and help uh but nick nick we've talked about postpartum on our show before how is she doing now she's doing a lot better and she recognizes uh now

that uh you know how i felt wasn't normal but the whole point yeah i guess of bringing this up is at the time what you feel is just like kevin said your reality and you know i'm not upset because i i'm upset about this i'm upset about that and if you're discounting it and you're telling me that that's not real or to calm down or it's going to go away you're discounting how i'm feeling right now so it's difficult to deal with the situation when you're on the other side and you're like well why are you upset or you have to be happy about it when realistically i understand now and i haven't had any children yet but you know kudos to anyone who's dealt with the situation when you have a child uh and you're breastfeeding you just grew this child in your body uh they're drawing all these hormones and all these vitamins out of your body you know depriving the mother of it especially if you're uh breastfeeding i yeah it's just really difficult to deal with that and try to be encouraging but that's all you really can do is just kind of acknowledge it and be encouraging and then hopefully they can you know get through that i love that you're talking about your uh

situation in your family because it probably helps you be able to do it i it's funny i was thinking about this with you uh being miles and miles away from your sister and you know dealing with it and then others having them in their own town dealing with it like what is harder to be away from it or be right there in the thick of it because i think both would be extremely difficult

it's hard to see the person and in essence in many ways in your eyes deteriorating that's awful

So I appreciate you bringing this up. I want to grab a couple of last calls, and then if anybody does need help and in dire need help, we're going to give you some resources that you can be able to help with in a second here. Is it Hannah? Is that right?

Yeah, yeah, it is.

What's up, Hannah?

So I've been diagnosed. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about four years ago, and I have been on different medications and different types of therapy and different treatment programs and after four years i am finally medication free by recommendation of my psychiatrist um it was definitely a long journey to get here and the biggest advice that i got and that i give to anyone who's going through this is take it moment by moment one day at a time because you can't look at the entire goal and think you're going to get it done and one day like you have to break it down moment by moment and be there so you don't overwhelm yourself with the stress and the anxiety and just everything it's a lot life's already a lot and when you have a mental health issue it just adds to it but there is definitely hope I never thought I would be able to get off medication and now that I am I feel like myself that I once was

and it's amazing. And, and Hannah, you, you, you say that you're, um, the, what you're dealing with is it, did you say bipolar? Yeah. So quick question, uh, for you when you're going through a bipolar episode, what is, what do people say it looks like? Um, well, there's like two types

for me. I'm either manic, so I don't sleep and I'm talking super fast and I'm always go, go, go go go or it's the longer depressive episodes where i'm just there's no light or life in my eyes and i am just dragging through my day every single day but like having little rewards for myself and having a support system really a support system is the biggest thing that i rely on on a day-to-day basis to have gotten me through all of this that's my question like what role did your family play

throughout the process and was there ever a time that you didn't want to take medication and if you did go through that how did you become consistent um yeah so my family they've

definitely they have been there when if I can't drive myself to an appointment they will offer to drive me if there are days where I just want a shoulder to cry on they'll be there they'll listen to me and I'll try and explain what is Thank you.

in my mind but then they always remind me like i know you're feeling this way but if you want to get better you have to fight for what you want your life to look like and so changing my thought patterns was a very big thing to try and get me better um what was your other question sorry well

i mean how did you change your thought pattern like was there a time where you said i'm not experiencing what you guys are telling me i'm experiencing i feel fine denial yeah did you

ever go through that oh yeah yeah for sure um one like the manic episodes i was like oh i'm fine i don't need to take my medication and then i would be financially irresponsible and i would be reckless and eventually like it was really my partner he'd sit me down and be like do you see yourself and i'm like what are you talking about he's like exactly like you need to go get help you can't even see what's going on and everyone else can like we're worried about you we're scared for you and when when you hear the fear in their voice and in their eyes about you and your safety you're like oh wow okay maybe i'm not as good as i think i feel and i'm sure that it starts with

anger because people get angry at first and then fear and then then hopefully help um if you or anyone you know is experiencing any, uh, form of, um, mental health crisis or, uh, God forbid, suicide, uh, the number that can help is 988. And, uh, I would appreciate if, uh, you know, you just understand that you are, you're loved, you're valuable. Um, we don't know you, I don't know you, or maybe we do, but we do care about you. And one of the reasons we bring this up on the air is because we're all dealing with the same thing that you're dealing with. And don't ever think that people aren't. When you think that you're alone, you're not. The person next

to you could be dealing with something that is virtually the same. And also if you, I don't know what it is for Ohio, but I know that the state of Michigan, if you go on michigan.gov and click on the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services, they have listings by county of all of the different organizations where you can find free mental health help yeah uh it's mojo in the

morning thank you cap for bringing that up buddy yeah you've got a yeah yeah tyler reddick here

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