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It's Mojo on the morning show. You never believe this. Guess who Megan says is gaslighting her. You know, we talk about gaslighting all the time with second date updates and our War of the Roses and horribly, you know, being treated by whoever the person is you're in a relationship with. I never heard of this, though.

um i think a therapist is trying to gaslight me and i'm not okay with this i think i'm slowly starting to lose my mind do you go to therapy uh so used to okay in a while going through it recently finally decided to bite the bullet good for you yeah good appointment with a therapist and um start going back and focusing on uh myself in a good way not in a bad way because let's be I'm very self-centered but like in the worst ways possible so let's fix that um but I decided to make an appointment with this really interesting therapy group I don't want to call it like a a private practice because there's a ton of doctors there so it's not just like one or two people there's a bunch of people and I was like this is great because they do the whole like shop around method if you sit down and you're not like vibing with your person they've got like a million more for you to try out and I was like you know what I like that that seems pretty convenient it. So I went online and I was signing up to try to make my first patient appointment. And you fill out a whole bunch of paperwork, like who your provider is, what you're looking for, yada, yada, yada. And in it, it asks for your phone number and your email address. And then it asks which way you would prefer to be contacted. So I, I fill it all out. And I said, I'd really like to be called because I'm not entirely sure what I'm doing. And I feel better instead of just, you know sending 10 emails back and forth give me a call let's talk about it i'm excited to hear your response i don't get a call for 48 hours and i'm checking my email and i'm not getting anything either and i'm like well that's kind of interesting they said they had availability and i checked it a couple of hours later i got my email and and there was it was an email from the office and they said hey yeah we were going through this um probably gonna need you guys to give us a call so we can try to talk through it ma'am i said in both sign-up sheets that i wanted to be called you emailed me and then had the audacity to tell me that i needed to call you are we dating already what is happening i'm getting gaslit by the guy that's

not even my therapist yet so i have to tell you that it is a i was talking to jacob about this My son, my middle son, Jacob, just got his master's and now is working on his doctorate in psychology. And so he's going to be a psychologist, which he can't see me. I've asked him already. I was like, can I get the friends and family discount? He's like, I can't do that. But he was, we were talking about it. He said it's a six-month minimum waiting period on a lot of times getting into a therapist or a psychiatrist because there's so much mental health issues that are going on out there nowadays. And it's crazy. I shouldn't use the word crazy because that's not. It's wild. It's wild. There you go. How, like, I feel bad for the therapist, too. Like, they can't keep up. And they're having a hard time keeping up. And I think a lot of these people, a lot of people who are therapists or psychiatrists and stuff, maybe aren't the most business savvy.

savvy of people yeah so a lot of times they don't know what to do but it's tough though because you here you are you have finally gotten the courage that you say to yourself i gotta go get therapy right because it takes a long time it's honestly i say going to therapy is like for me going on a diet i always sit there and i talk about it talk about it talk about it and then finally one day something hits me and i go and and if you don't get if you can't get into somebody

i mean when i when i got you know when i started going to therapy um this was like 2016 The day I decided I needed to go to therapy, I was like, I need to go today. Like, you're, a lot of times it's like you, there is something, there is some sort of crisis happening in your life or inside of your, you know, your head that you, you can't wait a month for.

To be fair, when you were filling out their information online, it was like, are you needing to talk to somebody more immediately? or is this something that like it's not necessarily an emergency to come in and I did mark that it wasn't an emergency to come in so they they did have a it seemed like a different process if you needed help right now you'll probably be put near the front of the line versus people who are like I can wait a little bit it's fine I just need to make the appointment eventually which I did really appreciate when I was reading through it but what I found interesting was if you follow me on social media a couple of days ago i posted up on facebook looking for a new gynecologist yeah i saw that and i because i just love asking people for the doctors and it was so interesting that nearly every recommendation took our health insurance but when i was looking for a therapist that was not the case it was way more difficult to mine doesn't it's fine yeah i was surprised and how few of them each one takes so listed who took what insurance and all of them only took like one

or two I have an idea for a business opportunity yeah tell me I'm thinking of doing this maybe I might I might this might become so big if there really is this you know much mental health issues going on right now i'm thinking about doing drive-through therapy where you talk to me through the drive-through and then at the end of the whole thing we give you an order of whatever the food is i don't say on because i think to myself all the time about when i go to my therapist there's sometimes where i'd like to go face to face with dennis but i don't because i'm so crazy busy here at the station lately that i'll sometimes be calling him on the road to go see him so i'll say let's just do it on the phone so we'll do it on the phone i kind of like it a little bit because i like the idea of uh just having a conversation and talking and then i can run

errands while i'm doing the whole thing too yeah well we advertise for that better help which actually i know a lot of people who use it and it's basically like you do it all online and you It's like a Tinder for therapists. Truly, you go on there and you see profiles and you choose the therapist that you feel like you could best match with. Do you visually see them then? Yes. And if you don't like him or her after the first visit or first couple of visits, you go back in and you pick somebody else. Yeah.

Well, it's like the office that Megan was talking about.

And you can see their immediacy or you could see their availability. Excuse me.

It's really cool. Do they buy you a drink? I don't believe they do. Do they buy the-

I've never used it personally, so I can't attest to that, but I'm thinking answers no.

Megan brings up a really interesting point about this place because I only have gone to therapists that somebody has recommended to me, and we talked about this on the More Mojo podcast a couple of days ago, which you should go listen to it because it was very deep what we got into. We did a little couples therapy type thing with all of us as a show. But if you don't like the therapist that you go to, it sucks because you start off telling them your life story for like the first four sessions and then all of a sudden for a session you're like like I want to know right away kind of like a date right you want to know if the person's worthwhile well you want

to get past all the small talk yeah and get to like the meat of you know the date or the issue

I've gone to therapists before and I talked about this in the podcast I've gone to therapists before they've given me the worst advice ever like literally literally told me to get divorced like right off the bat go get divorced you should get divorced i'm like thank you and then asked me if i wanted to talk to their friend who is a divorce attorney i'm like wait a second there's

a scam going on here kayla what's up hi um i texted in that um you can actually go to a website that's psychology today.com and you can literally go in the filters and you can put in like like it has all the insurances you can just click on your insurance you can click like if you prefer a man or a woman i mean it literally filters out all of the um psychologists in your area yeah kayla

it's so weird that you just called As you said, psychology today, my cousin Ellen just texted me and said, yay, psychology today is a great resource.

Yeah, it must be a good one. I mean, that way, yeah, you don't have to, you know, call and ask, oh, do you accept my insurance? Yeah, that's great.

You know what, though, sucks about this, like in Megan's case with this, you know, whoever, psychologist, therapist, whatever it is, is that in life, rejection is the hardest thing that we deal with, right? It's such a hard thing to deal with getting in relationships. Nobody wants to be rejected by their therapist, you know? Yeah, oh, yeah. Can you imagine? I wonder if this ever happens. Can you imagine if your therapist tells you that they're breaking up with you because they don't want to go out with you anymore or don't want to deal with you anymore?

I'm sure that that has happened.

I bet it does. Yeah. That's, like, painful.

Like, I'm sure that that relationship can get real toxic.

I need therapy for my therapy. It's not good.

Yeah.

Megan, I don't know why you just don't answer or call me and let me just give you advice. I've always given you good advice

Who's to say I'm not going there To talk about you Oh things just got a little serious

I never talk about any of you guys You're so full of it I am so full of it Did you hear the sarcasm in my voice

Swear to god that you've never brought Any of us up Oh no I absolutely have brought all of you up

Oh that's terrible That's even scarier Not media That was an interesting thing Filtering by men and women Do you guys have same-sex therapists or opposite gender?

I've always wanted to have a sexy therapist like Tony Soprano had in The Sopranos, but I always have guys like dudes.

Poor Dennis.

Guys that wear tweed jackets always look smarter to me than people that don't wear tweed jackets.

I feel like I need a woman to relate to my problems, but I also want a man that won't, I don't know, to give a different perspective. I was having a really hard time with this.

What if you walked into your therapy office and Harry Styles was what the guy looked like?

I would go, it's a pleasure to meet you.

This isn't going to work out. Whatever you do, make sure your therapist doesn't have stomach problems. Because I had one and his stomach would gurgle from the time I sat down until the time I got up. And that's all I could focus on was counting the gurgles in my head.

Was he hungry or something? Maybe it was around lunchtime that you were scheduling.

Maybe he had something going on, but I could not focus. What do you wear? Do you wear something comfortable or do you look professional?

Honestly, my best therapy sessions are usually when I'm wearing like, I don't know, like a sweatshirt or something like that, like really low key. I've often said this too about therapy offices, Megan. They sit in the more comfortable chair than they give you because they're sitting all the whole time and it pisses me off. Like I've often wanted to ask my therapist if I could have his chair because it looks more comfortable than the one that I get.

See, it's the opposite at Karen.

Oh, really? karen your therapist gives you the better chair it's a it's a love seat she gives you a love seat very cozy yes i thought you should call chelsea hold on a second we gotta call chelsea real quick i don't know if she's uh if she's up uh she's got to be up by now she's not up by now then they're call the call the ems chelsea used to love going to therapy with me when we would go to marriage therapy because chelsea chelsea will you tell megan and shannon What I would do when we were in couples therapy

Sleep No Yes Yeah He would go in Would you like to say what you would do

No go ahead you tell

He would go in and tell our counselor Everything that was wrong with me And then take a nap No he just

Did you just leave him sleeping So then you could tell the therapist everything that was wrong with him Or would you try to wake him up

um well we drove together so we went but at the very end like so he would it was a couple months but then I ended up working on stuff for you know about myself and did my own little therapy and then um I remember the last one of the last times we went because we've been several times one of the last times we went um he said okay so when are we going next week I said well we're not going next week because i'm good you can go she got her therapy well honestly i honestly i

didn't really want to go to go back to therapy he had such a comfortable couch it was a very

comfortable couch and it was very warm and it was kind of in a basement so i get it but yeah it was

it was it was honestly it was too nice like i almost wanted to put my pajamas on when i would go to the therapy that was very nice all right but look at us we got through it right you got You got all the help you needed.

Look at us. Chelsea, when I go, what's the first thing I should bring up about Mojo to the therapist? Oh, yeah.

Hold on. Megan can't hear you because you're on my phone. What should Megan bring up about me during therapy?

I'll text her

Meghan She's the best person ever She's the greatest radio talent of all time If there were a Mount Rushmore of radio Meghan would be on it This is Mojo in the Morning

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