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or wherever you get your podcasts. So what has become a reality in many states may becoming a reality in our state here. And I know that there's a lot of parents that take their kids to school at this time. And I know there's a lot of kids that are going to school at this time that probably may have an opinion on this. So if you have a kid in your car with you, I want to know what your thoughts are on. Did you see last night, they had the State of the State address in the state of Michigan with Governor Gretchen Whitmer speaking. And one of her big things that she talked about was wanting to make it illegal to have cell phones in school for kids, like students not being able to have a cell phone in school. Now, this has been a debate before on our show, but this is now possibly going to be a reality if this goes into effect and they can make it possible by the next school year.

They've grown increasingly concerned about how cell phones are used in school. We'll listen to Wood TV here.

I would say going into middle school was probably about the time that she got a phone.

is something that's become almost universal.

I would say that I don't know another student that doesn't have a phone.

Christine Dubrow has a daughter in 8th grade at North Rockford Middle School. She knows firsthand the draw of having a cell phone.

And it has made it easier for us to communicate throughout the day. Let's say there's an event after school. Do I need to pick her up at a certain time? Sometimes plans change.

Governor Gretchen Whitmer wants the state legislature to do more to restrict phone access in schools and will talk about the issue in her State of the State address. Parents like DeGro say while there are positives, there are concerns about the devices and their impact.

I do worry. I think that's a natural worry. They take up a great deal of time, and some of the content that's on there is not desirable.

Superintendent Steve Matthews says the district has created different policies depending on the age of the student.

By the way, this reporter has got me bored. I'm sorry. He sounds so bored. Why would I want to be bored? But I'll, Superintendent, I apologize. I'm sure you're much more excited than the reporter is. But I do find it interesting. I was watching some clips that were on the news last night of Governor Whitmer talking about this in the state of the state. And this is something that she is really wanting to have done before she leaves office. and uh we've talked before about this and it's got mixed reviews there are so many parents that don't like this idea as well as the students because of school safety they feel like there's the fear that if there's any kind of an incident that takes place in school you know what's going to go on but are those incidents few and far between and is it more so these kids are you know hey mom can you get me jimmy johns right i have two questions i did not

watch the state of the state did she did was there any talk of they can bring the the phones to school but they have to keep them like in their backpack for example and was there any talk about apple watches for example instead of like are you allowed to bear an apple watch versus bringing your phone or whatever there was no

specifics other than she she talked about the the ramifications of okay how in states like I think in California was the one of the first where they did this they saw that this test scores and in the kids anxiety levels actually the test scores went up anxiety levels went down I bet but I didn't get into the whole watches thing i don't even know to be honest with you what they do in those other states when it comes to that but i'm assuming that pretty much a device is a device right one of my concerns is

when you use the term illegal what are the ramifications what are the penalties well what

i don't think that it i don't think you're going to jail but i think what it is is it's allowing the schools to be able to say you cannot have it there and then the schools can make because i think what happens is parents will sue a school or they'll open it up for litigation to sue a school

because of this. I mean, I think there you have to try something and you have to start somewhere. And I don't know if this is the best place to start, but I think we can all agree that there does have to be something done with the amount of distractions that phones can cause in a school environment. I mean, we have teachers who call in all the time and say it is a problem. Yeah.

Tracy, are you in the car with your kid right now, Tracy?

Nope, I actually just dropped mine off. Okay. But my son is 15. I used to be against the cell phone issue, but now that he's gotten older, I think in middle school and high school they should be able to have him with the state of the world today if there were something to go down, like school shooting or something. I want my child to be able to get a hold of me and me to be able to get a hold of him. I don't think they should be able to have them out in the classroom, and I do think that teachers should have control over that. If you can't have control over your classroom, you shouldn't be a teacher. But there was a time that my son was keeping his locker, and they had a gas main break, and they had to evacuate the school immediately, and my son couldn't even get a hold of me to come pick him up.

Interesting.

And again, with the school shooting, he should be allowed to have them. They just shouldn't be allowed to have them out in class.

What do they do as far as the kids are concerned? Do you have to keep them in your locker at your kid's school?

No, they actually are allowed to have them on them. Well, they're supposed to keep them in their locker. Let me put it that way. Okay.

Yeah. Because what about putting them in their backpacks and they carry their backpacks with them? At least they have them on their person, but they have to have them off.

See, I like that idea. That's what I'm seeing. Like, in my day, and I'm going to show my age, like, we couldn't even, if we had our pagers out, like, we used to just keep our pagers, our beepers, and our backpacks, and we just wouldn't have them on vibrate. But if you got caught with them, they got taken away. So it's kind of the same thing, just, you know, different issue nowadays. But the world is too crazy, I believe, to be cut off from our kids, especially middle school and high school.

I remember the pagers, and it was funny, too, because y'all thought everybody was a drug dealer because they had pagers.

That green one, as you could see through, that boy was fire.

I like the idea of either the kids having to keep them in their locker or their backpack. Or I think my stepdaughter and my stepson both have to, like, there's like a pouch or something in the front of the classroom that they have to put them in, turn them off and put them in. So at least they're by them. And for me, it's not even a state of the world thing as much as it is. Like, Lucy has an Apple Watch. She doesn't have a phone. She's in fifth grade. but i like being able to at least leave her message to say hey i'm going to be a little late to pick up today don't worry i'm coming but you're not i'm not going to be but it's amazing

like when you leave those messages for some of these kids some of these kids respond right away

while they're in class right jody what's going on i was just saying i have a little bit of a different perspective as a teacher in ontario where legislation came into effect last september for us that students are allowed to have their phone at school but when they come into the classroom it has to go into a pouch yeah so it's near them but it's not available to them while we are teaching and we have all noticed throughout our province that it has made a world of difference to the positive for our students students don't mind this they are more engaged in our lessons even at things like pep rallies and assemblies they are more focused on what is actually going on in the moment as opposed to all their heads down and just looking at their phones and they will tell us like in the classroom since nobody else has it it's no big deal and they are more engaged with us as teachers and in the material so it has been a really positive experience for our province and when they announced last year in the summer that they were going to do this A lot of parents and a lot of students were very upset and said it was.

against their rights and all that kind of stuff but it has made a much much better positive

environment for everybody i i don't agree with that argument of it's against their rights like the school has rules and if that's a rule that's a rule i don't get where the rights come into it

i went to uh private school i went to catholic schools you had no rights in catholic schools right they've and they said it now you know for these kids but well thank you for calling us we appreciated canada checking in with us today hey oh i think you meant like a oh a um she kept saying province and i'm like going province we're like i was trying to figure is that like the school district or what was i think that's like how they call their cities that was their thing

laurie what's up laurie hi i had heard one of the callers say well maybe the kids could keep it in their backpacks yes um our just our district does not allow the kids to go to keep their backpacks with them any longer they have to be lots of in their lockers that's a very very popular

yeah and to me like that would be across the entire school and that makes me nervous in case

of emergencies is the backpack thing because of they could have a weapon or something inside of

there yes yeah it's just so crazy i like the no backpack rule but i like i so i like the no backpack rule that's why i think i like the idea of the pouches or keep it in your locker

but the sad part is isn't it sad it's so sad that you can't even you can't even have a backpack without you can't trust that people aren't going to be you know crazy and do stupid stuff man

horrible that's reality it's horrible talk to any other police officers or administrators at high schools and like ask them what people have brought in i mean it happens i understand but it's just

stupid that we have to like our world's gotten this effing crazy that you know you all this stuff the phones everything you know what i mean remember there used to be one school and that was all everybody went to and they all rode their horses to it and then they kind of you don't remember

those days weirdly enough i did not walk uphill both ways no those were the days just before the

pagers came into play and you had the pagers on this one um governor whitmer um we're reaching out to her. We'll see if we'll get her on the phone with us and see if we can ask her her thoughts on this this morning.

Nothing unleashes stupidity more than that person in front of you in the drop-off line for school.

Stop the drop-off, moron!

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Hey, this is Chuck from Stuff You Should Know, and we're submitting our most science-y episodes for your peer review with our new Stuff You Should Know doing science playlist. Out now. You want to know about Occam's Razor? The simplest explanation is usually the right one. We got you covered. Wondered what chaos theory is ever since the first time you saw Jurassic Park? Well, come on down. So, distill a nice pot of tea, everybody, turn down the gas on your Bunsen burner, and slip into your most comfortable lab coat and listen to the Stuff You Should Know Doing Science playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Film school teaches you all the wrong things about making documentary. What do you want to say? Documentary is all about your ear. What do you hear? I feel like my job is listening really, really hard.

Listen to Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.