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Alright, it is Mojo in the Morning Show I want to bring something up right now But I cannot say the name of the person because it is a client, and I don't necessarily know yet because he's kind of new as a client. I don't know if he is the like-to-be-talked-about-on-the-radio-in-a-funny-way kind of guy. Okay. So I introduced Chelsea to an advertiser of iHeartRadio and the Mojo in the Morning show. Chelsea is my wife, and we got a chance to hang out with him, and he was a really, really nice guy. And when he first met Chelsea, he reached out and shook her hand. And she was so taken by this man's hands that she held on to it for a while to a point that it made me feel honestly uncomfortable. Uncomfortable in the fact that this is my client, Chelsea. Please stop holding this man's hands. Like, don't do it. But she said right away, she goes, oh, my God, you have the softest hands I have ever felt on a man in my life.

She said that out loud to him?

She said that to him. And she and she looked at his hand. He was well manicured and everything looked good. And she said that his hand and she started like rubbing his hands and kind of feeling his hands a little bit. It was crazy. And it's interesting because he just bought double the schedule for next month, which is like crazy. It was like liking this thing. So we got into a little bit of a discussion later because I brought up the hands thing because the whole time that we were together, the hands thing was bothering me because here she is talking about his hands. And I'm thinking to myself, I've got, I think, okay hands, even though I told you guys yesterday that they're sausagey. They're not the best part of my body.

You're very self-conscious of your fingers.

They're like long sausages because they are big hands. So I started feeling my own hands, and sometimes you really can't feel, but I realized my hands are not very soft. I don't moisturize. But I wanted to ask this question. Rough hands or soft hands? I would think my wife is unusual. that she being, you know, a female, she would want a guy with good hands.

And what do you consider good?

I think my hands are good hands. Yeah, but what is it? Is it soft? Is it rough?

Are there calluses?

There's no calluses. These hands have never done a hard day in their life. I just wanted you to know.

You have to have the second most softest hands in the world. No, no.

They're not. But no, but I actually do push a lot of buttons here on the show. Someone commented that on the social mojo.

Someone's like, are those indents for mojo pressing buttons on the board? They looked that close at your fingertips.

See, I do. I'm very hardworking at this control board here. Thank you for noticing that, listener. And the only time they ever get moisturized is, well, you know, Mike, right? Yeah, I got you. That's the only time it ever happens.

Oh, my God. So yours are somewhere in the middle.

So they're somewhere in the middle. So do women want soft hands or do they want rough hands? What do you guys like? Okay.

I say soft too. Really? And Wes has. Oh, he's a pretty boy. No, he's.

He's very calloused, very, very, very rough hands. I like it rough, too. From, I think, the gym and just, you know.

That's what she said. That's what she said.

Like, doing stuff around his house, he has very rough hands, calluses on all, like, every single finger right here. And when I hold his hand, I, that's like, I continue, this sounds weird, but I continually, like, move my fingers over those areas. Like, I can't, I don't know.

Ew, ew, no.

Do you know what I mean, Megan? Yeah, but I hate that. That literally is so gross. That's why I say I'd rather have soft. I love him, but I'd rather, if I had to pick softer.

Can I be honest with you? I've held Wes's hands, and I think that they are very nice. Did it make you feel safe? It did. Actually, honestly.

You know what I love about his hands? They're little like mine.

Well, that's the thing. Are your hands little? I was not going to go there. Poor guy.

He's going to hate me.

I was not going to go there with Wes's hands, but I would assume that Wes, by looking at him.

He's a shorter dude.

He's a well-groomed man. that he would take care of his hands.

No, because he's also like a parkour guy. So I feel like he would have rough hands because he like works out and stuff. Yeah, does Wes lift at all? Yes. Okay, so he, yeah, that makes sense. That's what I'm saying. He's got a ton of calluses on us. Yes, yes. I like that. Gross. I think that's hot as heck. No, I love that.

Somebody just asked me what size my finger is. And I don't understand why they asked me what size my ring finger. They wanted to know what size my ring finger was. And I think it says it on the inside of this ring, But I don't know exactly if I can read it Bratwurst I think it says Summer sausage What's up Julie how you doing Soft hands or rough hands

Rough hands for sure Thank you Well to me it feels like It seems to me that they're more of a working man Like I dated a guy with Soft hands and I didn't like it Ma'am really

Ma'am, tons of people work hard without having their rough hands all up on your soft places, okay? So, this is my opinion.

The soft hand guy that you were with, what did he do for a living?

Not much.

Because sometimes there are guys that work with their hands, but they're very good about taking care of themselves also. And I just wanted to know.

Okay, so that's what I was going to say. I actually really don't care rough hands or soft hands. But it's the fingernails that really get me. If the fingernails are dirty, I just can't, yeah.

Sarah, we got one for rough. What do you have to vote for?

I vote rough, too. My husband has rough hands, but I work in property management. So I do a lot of handshaking upon move-ins. When a guy has soft hands, I know he's going to blow up our maintenance line because he's not going to know how to do real-life stuff. Oh, my God. Guys with rough hands do not bother us like guys with soft hands. So it's a big indicator to me in my line of work of what I'm going to get into.

Yeah, it is.

Yeah, because I have kind of semi-rough hands, and I don't fix anything. So, you know, I don't know how you judge that. But that's interesting that if you work in a property management that you think that the guys with the soft hands are going to be the pain in the butts, always, you know, needing something done around there. Marissa, a lot of rough hands so far, you want to say?

um i feel like if they have rough hands they do a lot more stuff so like if they have calluses they could play guitar and like that's that's cool that's an interesting thing but soft hands especially for girls soft hands are they're kind of hot they could play with you

they're hot too yes yeah he doesn't need to play the guitar you're just horny either way it sounds

like to me well i my boyfriend has muscular hands but they are the softest thing ever i just pass

away every time i'm held makes me horny wow wow that's that's awesome uh so you want those soft hands uh around your body but you want the rough hands for the guy that actually knows how to do

certain things if they have rough hands and they play guitar or they work out i know how to well

Well, that's unfair because a guy with a guitar can have no hands, you know, and he would be fine.

I don't know.

I don't think that's possible.

Haley, what's going on?

Hi. Hi.

Oh.

For soft hands.

Okay.

But the fingernails are really, really important.

Yes.

Like long fingernails. It doesn't matter if your hands are soft or, like, callousy or whatever, But if you have, like, unmanicured nails or really, you know, long fingernails.

Yes. Or no fingernails. Yes. If you bite your hands to nubs. Yes. I was going to say, there's a middle ground. Yes.

It doesn't have to be biting. Have you ever seen the guy who consistently cuts his nails so short that the ends of his fingertips are, like, bubbled? Oh, man. Not that either. Not that either. So not long and not short, just a normal length, guys.

But do you think, though, that these guys might have a little anxiety or something going on with themselves?

That's the reason why their fingers, you know? When they're bloody and just there's no cuticles. No.

Courtney, what's going on?

Hi. I think everybody is crazy because you've got to, like, soft hands. Who wants rough hands, like, rubbing your back and, like, gross, dry, cracked, like, bloody?

It's like a loofah.

I know, but I have a loofah and an exfoliating cream.

I'm good there. Get rid of the dead skin. Yeah.

No, no. No, just, I mean, calluses, that's totally different, but I don't want dry, like, fracked, bloody hands above my back every night. It's like a pumice stone, you guys.

That's what I have. I got the calluses, like the three calluses under a couple fingers, but the hands are moisturized. What are you doing to get calluses? I fix things. You're just as inactive as I am. I work out. I work out. Come on, work out. I do. How many days a week? Two, three. Two, three. Yeah, that's why there's only two, three calluses. Roy wants to comment on his hands Because he says that Don't make fun of guys with soft hands Why is that, Roy?

Well, 90% of my hands are soft But when I massage my girlfriend's back Or whatever Because she has a very tense job She likes just below the first line Where your fingertips are That little part right below each finger To be a little bit rough So that way when you massage After a hard day Parts of your body Want that loop of feeling But as long as you have a strong grip When you're giving that deep tissue massage The rest of your hands need to be soft To get the job done Who are you?

I feel like that was straight from I don't know AI wrote that

That's amazing though I don't know Seriously I kind of want a massage from you I'm not going to lie I don't think I could read the book though

Because my legs would fall asleep And then I'd be using all kinds of different voices

Oh, you're talking about the only pants. I was like, wait a second. What is he doing with his hands in a book? All right, Roy. Roy, can I ask you a question about rubbing your wife's back? Why is it that when Chelsea asked me to massage her back, it takes about five seconds for me just to want to get her clothes off?

It takes you any amount of time to want to get her clothes off?

No, I mean, not to, but it goes right to that. It goes right to that, but it happens. You're right. You're right. I mean, before, yeah, it always turns into that.

We are little boys at heart.

Exactly.

And we have strange ideas and thoughts that go through our heads that don't always match up with what they think.

Right. Yeah, that's true. Now Chelsea's going to be checking my hands for the calluses on the fingertips for the massage, the Roy massage.

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