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So, you're lying?

Is it a lie if you don't say anything? I don't know. She's going to find out, but I'm just going to call myself out right off the bat for being a bad mom. You don't have to tell me I'm a bad mom. I already know I'm a bad mom. Yeah, they'll still tell me. Don't worry. I just, you guys know this, I'm not a huge camping person. Mike, I see all your videos and your photos and how much you and your family love to go camping. I wish I loved it. When I was little, my dad used to take my sisters and I to this place called Rondu Park in canada and we would camp and it was great but now it's just not the most fun for me so lucy my third grader uh we just got an email she's in girl scouts um and we just got an email that there's like a camp happening the entire first weekend in may for her girl scout troop and we're supposed to sign up you know by the end of this weekend if we want to go i don't want to go oh my god you are such a bad i'm not going thanks megan i know i'm not going i so i am gonna try and not tell her about it and just really cross my fingers that she doesn't find out about it so that we

don't have to go on some camping trip and you don't have anything going on that week nothing

i really don't it is a free weekend i just don't love like i'm not into that at all she does a like a one day camp um and it starts at like eight in the morning and goes until 10 o'clock at night and that day is like i'm cool with it it's a long day but i staying two overnights is it the one in like port huron or linden couldn't tell you because i just deleted that email really quickly

i know there's a really nice one too in mackinaw or mackinaw island camp libby it's like glamping

I mean, you're in a cabin, and they really... There's indoor bathrooms. Yeah.

And it's just...

You're robbing her of this childhood time. I'm not robbing her of anything.

Is she a sleepover kid? We'll do a camp in my... No, she's never had a sleepover. She's never done a sleepover.

My daughters still talk about that. That's great. We'll camp in my backyard. Or in my living room.

Spike, you take her. Yeah. Honest to God, I couldn't even tell you the camp. Now I'm trying to look back through the emails. And so I'm texting some of the other moms. I'm like, you're not going to that camp thing. First weekend in May, right?

And what'd they say?

One can't go, and the other is undecided. The two moms that I texted.

Can you find out what the excuse of can't go was, and maybe you just had that excuse, too?

And by the way, for people who are saying, you don't have to go let her go with the troop leader, no, the moms have to go. And if it's a dad that goes, they have to stay in an entirely separate cabin. Andrew's not going, are you kidding?

me i'm gonna say i'm gonna throw this out there i'm gonna say i think majority of parents have done what you're doing not told their kids about something because they didn't want to do it themselves or do you want to be part oh yeah it's not being a bad parent it's honestly just saving yourself a freaking headache that's what i think it is and i agree with shannon on this one what's

up kimberly i thought i was gonna get slaughtered hi guys um i was i believe the only girl scout in my troop that didn't go camping because the mom didn't want to. And I'm 30 years old, so years later, it's still kind of... Oh, stop it.

Do you need therapy because of it?

It can't be that bad. Just go with your daughter.

When all your friends win and you're the one in the troop that doesn't have the stories they have.

I do all the other things. Yeah, I was so sad. I don't want to go.

Yeah. Remember when I did the...

Pinewood Derby? I have to help you with that.

Well, no, but that was a bad one, yeah. But no, but remember when I got on a bus and drove to New York with Jacob? And I was like, I don't want to do this thing. I don't want to be...

Like, I'll do that. I'll do all the field trips. I'll do all the Mackinac.

A bus sounds better to me than a cabin. I'll do all of that. Or even a...

Just a camping thing. Or even a tent.

What's going on, Bob?

Shannon, you got to fuck it up, Buttercup. I've been there before Listen I've been there Before if it's the one Like I heard Spike say Port Huron It's just north of Port Huron Right on like Lake Huron Yeah And real nice cabins It was a fun time I went there my dad's girlfriend Was the Girl scout leader whatever So we got to like go in there As just like a family Just us four for the weekend But it's a pretty sweet little place

That's great

Poor Lucy It's not like super

It's not making me feel bad

No Mojo in the morning show Hello Christy

You know what Mojo I agree with you and I agree with Shannon Shannon Good for you for deleting the email I like you Christy It's not Like, if it's a headache, you would have a three-day migraine. It's just, camping is not the thing anymore. It was when you were little.

What are you talking about? It's not for you to have a scene.

It's for the little kids. Yeah. I understand that. But even the kids, like, my kids would be like, no, we're not doing camping.

I actually think Luce would say she didn't want to go. Turn your radio down. But I'm too scared to ask in the event that she changes her mind and say, no, I think she would not want to go. Oh, not want to? No, she's, like, not super into it either, but I'm too scared to ask her. Well, let's ask her. Let's call her and ask her. I'm too scared to ask her in the event that she's like, yeah, I really want to do it this year.

You went by your motherly gut instinct, and you hit that delete button, so go, Shannon. I'm right behind you. Wow. I would have done the same thing.

Wow. Neither of you women can complain that your daughter's looking at her device this year because you're encouraging her to stay indoors and look at that phone.

I'm not encouraging her to do any of that. I'm just encouraging her to not go to this game.

What happens if Lucy's friends say something to her, though? Have you thought about that?

They're going to. I deleted that email so fast, I didn't think about anything.

That's what I'm telling you.

They're all going to talk about it. I'm going to show up one day, Shannon, with my camper. Just casually show up with the camper.

And I'm going to be like, Uncle Mike is going to take you camping, Lucy. I would love to.

What's up, Julie?

Good morning.

Good morning.

Shannon, you've got to suck it up. I love you, but you have got to do that for her. Suck it up, Shannon.

Suck it up. That's the new motto of today's show for Shannon. Suck it up. What's up, Melinda?

Don't do it, Shannon. Don't do it. Those beds are horrible.

I know. They say they're great. It is not camping.

I love all the people that are texting, if you go loose, you will cherish those memories forever. Let me tell you about the day camp we went to a couple of months ago. At about 3 o'clock in the afternoon, she goes, Mom, can we just go home now? Can you imagine if she did that? So I'm not doing that for an entire weekend.

Can you imagine if she did that, like, hours into this being a camp thing?

I have a question about that day camp. Who was she with?

What do you mean? Her troop.

The whole troop? Yeah, it was the same thing. Were you there? Yes. Spreading your negative vibes about the day camp? Oh, no.

Are you kidding me? I was so happy at that camp. It was fake, but I was. I volunteered to be in the skit. I did it all. I knew I was going home to my own bed.

You were counting the minutes, too. By the way, if my kid ever does that, where they say, can we just go home? I'm like, hurry up, let's go. Grab your stuff. I would have left right at that particular moment. Don't make eye contact.

What's up, Lindsay? It's Mojo in the Morning. You say, Shannon, don't feel bad?

Do not feel bad. I'm calling with my 15-year-old son, and we did it for Boy Scouts, and we left at 5 a.m., peeled right out of there.

And if that was the last you ever saw that camp, you were a happy woman, weren't you? Absolutely.

Yeah. My daughter did Girl Scouts one year, and then she quit, so we didn't have to ever do that. Yeah.

Get out of there. I like that this is the number one thing People are saying What's Sam saying What's that Sam

Shannon I think you're in the wrong I think you should have asked Lucy And gotten her opinion And then made your decision off of it There's still time

When have your kids ever had a voice in anything They should not have a voice Yes they should This is not a democracy

This is a small thing This is a parentocracy And here's the thing She hasn't even herself said it. She doesn't think Lucy will want to do it. I know, but I'm scared she might change her mind.

Yeah. How about this? Say, Lucy, you could do this. Find an alternative that she would be much better doing. See what she really would like to do. Oh, that's just rude. That's just rude.

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