So before we ever even started the show, we did spend so much time together. He and Sarah and Eric and our then producer, Barb, at the time. And we would go out to eat or we'd go, you know, to museums or to the, you know, baseball stadiums. Like it was basically we're all going to experience the Motor City, you know, the way that you guys do, the way that the listeners do. And so we were eating at a chain steakhouse. I don't think it was Lone Star. It was whatever the other one was at the time. And I will remember this forever where it was just off of like 275 in Livonia. And we're eating at the steakhouse. And I have been coming with my wife and family from Arizona to come to Detroit to do the morning show. And as we walked in, Spike goes, hey, there's something, you know, to this. You know, this is a sign. There was cactus that were in the front of the building, big cactus that they had in the front of the restaurant. And I go, oh, that's cool. You know, it was kind of cool. And I like that he said that it was kind of like a sign. Somebody sent in a sign of what this is going to be like for us to work together. And we ate and had a great time, laughed, walked out to the parking lot, and, you know, we're getting ready to get into our cars and say goodbye. And he says, hey, you know, that was a really amazing sign that there's a cactus there, and here you are coming from Arizona. And I thought that that was such a cool thing that I decided to, and all of a sudden, he grabs the big cactus and pulls it out and says, here, take this home with you. as he grabbed the cactus, which I don't know how he was able to carry that out himself. And that was Spike. And that was the guy that then went out and we did street scams and phone scams and, you know, all kinds of different pranks. And he was fearless. And he, you know, he grew a lot, you know, over the years. because this was before he had kids he grew a lot from being you know you know a newly married guy to then having children and going out and doing these crazy stunts and then you know he's gone through his you know uh personal uh um trials and you know and then come out from those and had great moments and i you know i um will tell you that in radio it's like anywhere else there's crazy this you know things that happen where you you know hear that somebody's either leaving on their own or not leaving on their own but radio is different than probably somebody that's working at any other company we got to come in and go on and be so public uh the next day and it would be