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call mojo in the morning 844 mojo live 844-665-6548

mojo in the morning show megan megan megan hey that's me how you doing i'm living the dream how are you good you've been a little quiet today you're just kind of chilling in that studio of

yours yeah actually i took a fat nap that's that's what i've been doing well hold on go to let's go

to the cameras right now and take a look oh yeah we can see what's going on oh you don't think i

covered them up oh babe i covered them up in a fit of rage you should spray paint them since they

didn't tell you spray paint right over and then they say you destructed property you say and you just did something illegal had they not said anything at all yet about that they came and

I apologize. Did they? They did. They did. I'm wondering if somebody thinks they're going to get in trouble.

You got that to hold. By the way, somebody was asking me the other day something, and I said, I'm calling HR. And they said, you are? And I said, no, because I don't know what the number is. How do I do that?

Do we have HR here?

Somewhere in that workday thing, that app that every now and then.

It's just an app now.

It's the app that I hope that my facial recognition on my phone works when I try to go in there. Otherwise, I've got to try to remember what my password is. All right, it's Mojo in the morning show. So speaking of that, speaking of work, you know what you've got to bring up? So when you leave a company, they will do exit interviews, which I always find interesting when companies do exit interviews because do they exit interview everyone, even the people that, you know, get fired from the company?

Or just the people that quit?

Or just the people that quit and move on to another place? Because you're going to probably get a different type of response, right?

Yeah, I would think so.

I think you'd want to talk to everybody if you're a big corporation to see if there is any problem you need to deal with.

Do you ever notice that everybody now wants a survey on how everything's done?

Everything.

It's like everything you go to, even now companies that you might work for want to survey on how they are as a company. So what happened with your friend?

A friend of mine just quit her job, right? So she put in her two weeks. And I think this week is going to be like this Friday is, I think, her last day. And she quit her job specifically because her boss was just absolutely terrible. so I thought oh my god what a great opportunity you're gonna have an exit interview like is this going to be essentially a therapy session for you are you gonna let it all loose you're gonna let it all out like what's gonna happen and she straight up was like no I don't think I will say what happens because I don't

want to burn any bridges and i'm not here for that kind of attitude and i am here to burn spit down i was very kind of confused on this one because i brought it up with more people in my life and i said what do you do in exit interviews and the majority of them said i would never say what happened like i'm just moving on there's no point this that or the other thing and i i kind of felt But, like, isn't there a moral responsibility to the coworkers that are staying behind that if there's an issue, it's addressed? And I couldn't believe how torn people were on this because I think I'd let it all out.

But, see, I would be nervous that it would affect, like, a reference that was needed. Okay, genuinely?

Are references even a thing anymore? I don't know.

That's what I was going to say. Yes, because I did a reference for intern Billy yesterday.

Supposedly, companies are very skittish about even sharing anything on a reference. They won't even talk about what you did on the job.

But I'm saying, not even that, I'm saying if you rip the company a new one in your exit interview, and then you need somebody from said company to give you a reference for you to get a new job, they're going to have a bad taste in their mouth, right? But were they going to write you a good reference to begin with? Exactly. Well, it depends on whether you left or if you were fired.

You know what, the thing about exit interview is, why didn't you ask these questions to your employees? while they were employed? Why did they have to leave before the situation was there?

Because nobody wants accountability.

Okay, so without going too deep into the weeds, I want to see if we get calls from listeners that will tell us what they said on their exit interviews and did they burn the place down? Did you light an inferno and call some people out and stuff like that in the exit interviews? Because the only time that I answer surveys, like we were talking about, everything's got to surveys, is if I have extremely horrible service or an extremely horrible situation like a bad purchase that I made or whatever and it was a dud or extremely exceptional.

Same. Or if they give me 15% off for doing a survey. Yeah.

That is true, by the way.

Sadly, most reviews are negative, right? You know what I hate? People love to tell you what happened that was wrong.

I hate when you do a thing and it says, this will take you only a couple minutes. And then you answer a question honestly, and it comes back to you wanting you to answer five more questions about the question you just answered honestly.

You violated my trust.

I thought you said there's only going to be a few minutes. What's up, Bob? Maria, how are you doing?

Good. How are you guys doing?

Doing good. We're talking about Megan's friend just left a job and has the exit interview. Do people answer these things honestly?

You know, I would have to agree with Megan. Granted, I've never seen them truly being answered honestly, but I think in terms of, you know, keeping morale and retention, I think it's important to know what the issues were.

Yeah, but have you ever had, what was, you're in human resources, right? Isn't that what's that as a buyer?

Yep, I'm an HR manager.

So do you ever have, go through those exit interviews and had somebody just blast a person that you work with?

Not an exit interview per se, but, you know, going through the end of employment, you know, I have had people get really rowdy and kind of throw punches.

Oh, my God. Wow. Jeez.

Yeah. That's working at a plant for you.

Oh, my God. I bet. What's going on, Justin?

Yeah, I worked at a factory for 10 years. uh and you know when i i quit because i i worked there for 10 years and they wouldn't give me a raise and you know when i did my exit interview before i left i told them you know you need to take care of your employees not have parties for you know the upper management when your your slave labor is out here working hard for you guys and you do absolutely nothing for us you know

and what did they what did they say did they ever respond back to you

uh yeah they they said oh you know we'll take that into consideration and yeah you know we

that's what they always say though you know they probably said that they read it right from their

party that they were having and do you know from people who still work there did it did it make any

change uh no actually i uh i i went across the street and started working for another company and the the people that still work there and the place is just continuing to go downhill and i i wouldn't doubt if they're out of out of business within the next five years does the new company throw parties just for the higher end people yeah wow no no the new place i work for they they uh they cooked us lunch like uh at least once a month they they cook lunch for us out back they uh they they do everything i just had my one year anniversary there and not only did I get a doctor,

raised, but I got a letter from the CEO of the company just telling me thank you. Nice. And just that little bit right there makes me want to work there longer.

Hold up. Where do you work again? I'm just kidding.

Not so fast. Sarah's voice is, guys. What's going on, Sarah?

Hi, guys. Good morning. Hi. I agree with Megan. I'm telling everything. I'm not leaving no TV on They're going to know everything. They're going to know who I don't like, who I do like, how I feel about the company. I'm not saving nothing, nothing at all.

So when you leave your company, you're going to do an exit interview, and you're going to go off on them.

You're going to burn the place down.

Burn it down to the ground, because I do feel like you have a personal responsibility to the employees that are still there, and they should know.

I think that's why a lot of people use Glassdoor because, you know, you can can't you write anonymously on Glassdoor about a particular company?

What is Glassdoor? I always hear everybody talk about it, but I never have used it.

I mean, it's a website where your jobs and your bosses and stuff.

Yeah. But the inside scoop with employee reviews from people actually.

So do people even if you're interviewing for a job, you can go on there and go to it. Do I really want to work at this company? Let me see what past and present employees are saying or have been saying about it.

It's not all negative. There are lots of people that talk highly about their jobs and say, like, this is the best place I've worked and this, that, and the other thing. But, okay, so back to the whole, like, employment and references thing. If you're a boss hiring, do you really care what your new employee's ex-boss thought? Like, all different types of relationships are different. That doesn't mean it would be a bad employer. They wouldn't be a good fit at the new place.

I think it's illegal to give a bad reference.

Yeah, that's what I was saying. I think there's some implications to that.

Yeah, I think there's legality.

If you had a problem with one person doesn't mean you hate the company, but the company probably needs to learn about that person.

Like I've had people ask for references and say, hey, will you be a reference for me? And I think that a lot of times what I'll get is, you know, hey, don't tell me how they are as a as, you know, a worker. We want to know, you know, are they upbeat? Are they fun? Like whatever. Like the person that asked me for past people that work here at the station, they just want to know that the person that's filling out the job application actually had some people that they worked with that liked them, I think.

Or that they weren't lying on their resume. Even double-checking, did they really work there eight years and stuff like that.

What's up, Mila?

Hi, how are you guys? Good morning. Good morning.

You're an HR person in your business, and what do you have to say about the exit interviews and also references?

I would say that for the exit interviews, I can't speak for all companies, but I know that the places that I've worked, which is a lot, they definitely take into account what the exit interviews say. If there's like a consistent trend, let's say someone is talking about management being poor or organization being poor, they take that into account and they start investigating to see why are we losing people to this issue.

I bet that happens even more nowadays with how hard it is to find people these days.

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Like, I can say 100% the focus for employee experience is huge now. I mean, if you're not going to do that, you're not going to be able to retain employees. You have to be employee focused.

Interesting. Okay. What about references?

References. So, yeah, for me personally, I think everyone looks at references differently. But I would definitely agree that the personality and the person aspect of it is so much more important than than how they were at the job, because you can virtually train anyone who's willing to do anything. But, you know, we can't build someone's character. Right. That's that's a very good point.

Katie. Hi. Hi. Good morning, guys. How are you doing? Good. You got a crazy story to tell us.

It's a crazy story. So do you guys recall the boutique that the owner was a man, and he emailed the candidate saying she wasn't that cute?

Oh, I remember that. That was a big story here.

It was. I actually worked for that boutique as well for just a couple weeks because they ended up firing me. Honestly, it was because I said the name of a material wrong. That's it. And they fired me.

Do you guys remember that story? I don't. It was a family-owned boutique, right? A husband and wife owned it. And the man talked about how the person that was applying for the job wasn't that cute, so they weren't going to hire her because she wasn't a good representative looks-wise for them, right?

Yeah, apparently. I mean, I disagree, but that was on him. Right. But in turn, so I was let go. They didn't give me the chance to do an exit interview, which I also thought was pretty absurd. But I told a couple friends. about what happened so they took to google and left reviews based on their opinion and then the owners threatened to sue and they said they had reached out to legal teams and were gonna prepare to sue us unless we deleted these reviews did you delete them we had to because we were scared

question for you what was the fabric that you could not pronounce i know i want to know too

No, so it was rayon But I said radon And radon is

Poisonous gas And they only fired you for that Or was there more to the firing? They fired you because you didn't know God, if that was the case of mispronouncing things That would have been gone a long time ago

All of us But yeah, they threatened to sue And it just wasn't worth it

But like after they fire you for mispronouncing a word Do you say, dude You accidentally sent a job candidate A video calling her not cute Like what

Talk about simple mistakes That actually happened after my employment Of course That's how terrible they are

Well at least you know you were cute enough to get a job there Did you hear what I said?

Oh I did not I'm sorry

At least you know you were cute enough to get a job there

Damn right Damn right

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