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The worst part of co-parenting, Kevin, having a little bit of an issue? Is everything okay?

Yeah, I feel like everything's okay. It's always like a tennis match, though. But I would say, for the most part, we're fine. But outside of not being able to see your child, which is a position, unfortunately, I've had to be in, I would say top two or 1A, 1B, would be not being able to speak to your child when you want to and there have been instances and this just happened yesterday and I don't want it to seem as though I'm saying that my son's mom is like doing it on purpose even though sometimes it feel like that and I do my best to not think that at the moment it could just be you know she's tired she forgot whatever the case may be but when I call and I know you're not at work whatever the case may be and I'm only reason I'm calling is to speak to my son and you say something like you know he in the shower or something like that like say I call you don't answer then I text you like let me speak to Joe then you say he in the shower I have him call you back and you don't have him call me or I call back you know an hour later or something and you don't answer then it's like well damn like what's what's really going on and in those moments it's like bro so today I'm going to get him a phone because

I was just going to say, as much as I wanted to hold off on getting the phone, for that reason, it's amazing.

Before that, with the kids, with Lucy, would you just have to call their dad?

Yeah, but it's so much easier to just shoot loose a text. Or even, like, Smith has an iPad, and he only gets so much screen time on the iPad. But at least I can shoot him a text and see, you know, if he responds.

The iPad thing is so hit or miss with Joe, though. it is like he might respond yeah he might be on it he might not be and then when i get him he sometimes be like oh yeah i saw that and then be like all right well why you ain't say nothing

in yeah in fairness yeah has josiah's mom ever tried to get josiah i ain't never i ain't never

been on that so you've never been busy i will say like in my younger years when i felt like i was in a tit for tat space but no i'm not on that at all like i want you to talk to her Get your conversation on real quick.

I would think that the worst thing about co-parenting would be that when there is an issue where your child has either a disciplinary issue or there's some kind of an issue at school or whatever the deal is, trying to get everybody together. It would feel like you're going back to mediation days and stuff like that to be on the same page. Does that ever come into an issue with it?

And I do want to say this, though. It could, it could, this all could be in my head. You know what I mean? But it just sucks when you want to reach out and talk to your child and you can't. Yeah. From a mediation perspective, I don't feel like that. Like we still trying to figure out where Joe about to go to school and we down to like the final two. Yeah. And I feel like I need to have a conversation with her this week, but it's kind of been like text messaging kind of going back and forth and we haven't really been able to talk. So hopefully this weekend we can figure out a time to talk. Yeah. I don't know. It's hot outside. Canada fires. She feel overwhelmed, and when Jazz get overwhelmed, it's like she shut down. It's tough.

What is it that you were calling Josiah for that you needed?

Just want to talk, bro. Like, it ain't even so I.

enjoy me i'll talk to you you ain't the same all i had time for yesterday was sitting on the phone

sometimes you just want to hear your child's voice yeah yeah sometimes you just want to say how are you and just knowing that you can ask that question is enough to like settle you down

i think she's going to be cool with you getting a phone for him um yeah was that that was a

conversation yeah did you talk to her about that i mean we've like we've like touched on it you know periodically throughout maybe the last two three years of his life but it's at a point now

where i feel like you know he's 13 he's going to it'll benefit it is going to be so much easier

and better yeah for you um by the way from a person that does not co-parent although chelsea wouldn't think that we co-parent sometimes the way that i do things um i try to call my my son luke especially and sometimes i don't get a call an answer so understand that that's going to

happen with josiah with this phone but i mean you're gonna call him up he's now he's gonna look at you go luke 21 though joe at 13 he better answer every time and that's gonna be a rule whenever you see my name pop up i need you to respond within 10 minutes i'm gonna give you time in case you're doing whatever but or you don't have a phone because that's the purpose of i'm not giving it to you so you could download apps and talk to your friends and play games and do

all of that this is a communication device there was there was a time when luke was probably around I'm 13 years old, and he wouldn't pick up my phone calls. He'd be hanging with his friends. But what's up, Mary? How you doing?

Hi, Mary.

Hi, Mary. Mary's not taking my call. There you are. What's going on?

Well, my daughter and I had an agreement that she got a phone when she was five because she was a product of a divorce, unfortunately.

and uh it worked very well so that so you you uh and her dad divorced and you got her a phone that early of an age because if you couldn't get him to give her the phone right i wasn't going to

but he for the first almost two years was playing major games so um i just i just said you know it's okay if uh i told him i said i'm gonna get her a phone and he said no you're not so i did and uh she just watched for a text and then she would uh give me a call back and he'd say who are you talking to and he said mom and i had to explain to him look you wouldn't like if i did it to you i would never keep you from your child yeah and that's not healthy for her yeah she needs to know that we work together and this was 23 years ago and uh are you still paying for her phone

yes can i can i tell you something that bothers me mary and uh i have friends of mine that are divorced and they will try to call their child when their child's over at their uh you know ex's house and when the ex's will say this is my time you're you're messing with my time this my time thing it's your kid's time you're you know what i mean like if you guys were still together it wouldn't be a situation where you your kid would go you know i'm sorry i'm supposed to be over here with dad not over here with you i hate when i hear stuff like that and i would like to think that if i were in a situation with with my wife where that happened that we would not be patty like that that we would let it be the priority would be the kids uh because that's sometimes you'll hear those stories like this is our our week that we have for sure look and i've

i've adopted that philosophy too again early on and it's a lot it's misplaced perspective you are only seeing through the lens of your own hurt not the healthiness of your child and you think you just don't think about the kid in those moments yeah brian what's going on hi

hey kev i just want to tell you keep keep your head up buddy it'll get better um i had the same situation uh my ex you know wouldn't let me talk to my son when uh when i wanted to we lived on opposite ends of the state um you know we wound up uh uh chatting with my son through clash of clans you know we would we would play the game together and chat together and uh um you know four or five years later he told his mom that he wanted to come live with me so you know by her keeping him from talking to me it made him want to come live with me so I wound up uh you know getting getting custody of him or he came to live with us um because he just he didn't like the situation so I just tell you keep your head up buddy I'll keep you in prayers it'll get better You just got to trust it.

get better yeah appreciate it bro and i don't i don't want it to seem like i can never talk to josiah when he with his mom it ain't that at all i could just be here being dramatic because i couldn't talk to him yesterday but yeah what if josiah said i don't want to talk to him uh sometimes he'd be on that really well not like some if if those situations arise is because he's on roadblocks or doing something with his friends and i'm pulling him away from

and he's like, all right, yes, Dad, okay.

He's like very short.

What's going on, Ryan?

Hey, I just want to second that for Kevin. I got a lot of support for you, man. I appreciate all you do.

Oh, God, thank you, bro.

Anyways, I'm a younger guy here. How old are you? From a younger perspective, I'm 18.

Wow, okay.

30 so i uh i'm a big uh first time long time is it ryan ryan ryan on the phone um i'm an avid uh mode of the morning listener like at work and so i from my younger perspective i wouldn't give my kid a phone until i think it is like utterly necessary just as of like i don't know a precautionary thing i just don't know if i necessarily trust any like younger kid with a phone like that being able to have access to

to too much stuff yeah what is your worry

i don't i just there's every like the whole internet i just don't want the kid like growing up too fast i don't know if any of you guys saw toy story five Oh, for sure. Absolutely. That kind of touched on it.

Absolutely. You know what is interesting is that-

Great movie, by the way. I loved that. I like Ryan.

What if he got, Josiah, a walkie-talkie? Remember good old-fashioned walkie-talkies? Look, I bought him a watch. He don't keep up with the watch like that.

They forget to wear it.

Watches are- That's too young.

But it's the watch where you can talk and text. There are a ton of controls you can put on the phone.

You guys, have you guys ever seen, I think they call it like a dumb phone or something. So it's like no apps. It's strictly like a phone. I think like a GPS and like music.

Everything you need.

But you can't watch porn. I would look that up.

You can text on it though, correct? You can text on it?

Yeah, you can text on it.

So I will say, so Lucy's had a phone since April, since her birthday. It has been amazing in terms of getting a hold of her when she's at the other house, okay? The one complaint I have is not content she's looking at on the phone or anything like that. She doesn't really have social media. It's the texting. These kids text. You're going to see this, Kev. Oh, my God. It's, like, wild to me how many text messages they can send in 60 seconds. Haley wants to come and come in with us.

Haley, what's up?

Hi, guys. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. so i have a 10 year old daughter and i co-parent with an out-of-state father and so the thing is my daughter has a screen time issue i'm sure you guys with kids can probably relate yeah and she just wants to stare at her phone all the time and it's become an issue like she has a phone she doesn't have phone service on it just wi-fi connected you know her dad really wants to get her a phone and i'm just so worried of what it's gonna she's already got this attitude problem the way it is in the internet it's influence i just don't know i just don't know what to do in this situation he wants because he says he can't get a hold of her anytime call anytime i will put her

on the phone basically he's saying in not so many words he doesn't want to call you he doesn't want

to have to talk to you yes yes that's what it feels like i don't care are you pleasant though with him when he calls are you like nice absolutely like yes whenever he comes he comes to visit her in michigan i let him stay with us him and his girlfriend oh here's the problem here's the

problem hayley the girlfriend doesn't like the idea that he has to call you there you go maybe i don't know maybe i don't know i listen i totally understand that if you do get josiah a phone you're now going to have to deal with the fact that he's going to want more screen time and he already has a lot of computer screen time right with his with his stuff um there are there are those times you're just gonna have to you guys are gonna have to parent and honestly i i say it though that you

let him do a lot on his stuff i mean joe good like he doesn't get in trouble he on the dean's list like he like i don't really see that being an issue i just want to talk to him you want to

talk to him you get do you when you want to talk to him is it are you lonely at the time or what I think whenever you're

it's not me being lonely there's there's an attachment to your child like there's a lonely

in that sense like i want my little buddy you know what i mean even just to hear your voice for a

second think how many times a day you just text joe or jacob or luke like something that popped into your head and you're like oh hang on you do you probably do it two dozen times a day and you

don't even realize it my kids won't stop calling me i would yeah joe joe joe said to me and this is actually funny next time joe's on you got to ask him this question joe said to me he goes sometimes you act like you don't want to talk to me and i go i don't oh my gosh like he was he'll call me up like he called he'll call me like three or four times a day and i'm like i kind of like the relationship i have with jacob once a week we have a conversation yeah a little check-in but joe literally would call all the time and i get i get the idea that if i wasn't with and i know that i'm not with them all the time but if i didn't have them under my roof when they're little little when they're at this age i don't know you guys both do an amazing job um you know with their you know uh their uh co-parents or whatever i hate calling co-parents because uh you know your husband and ex-husband and your uh um jasmine your jasmine i love when he searches for a word that difficult i i literally it would it would bust me to not be able to be with my kids at all times i chelsea and i talked about this on the we don't podcast one of the the times that we were definitely i getting a divorce i honestly thought for sure we're getting divorced we're preparing for this whatever it was me going to therapy and saying to dennis my therapist i don't know what i would do if at night i just couldn't walk into their room because they wouldn't be there and then the part that busted me was to know that somebody else was walking into their room and nothing against you know uh wes because wes is an amazing guy but it would crush me to have another man you know taking care of my kid you sound like jay-z is that what he what

is jay-z playing football which is saying it's something in future and sierra yeah so that would

So, you know, you guys all do great jobs with your kids. I'm sick of my kids right now, so I don't know where I'm going with this. I got a bug bite on my head that I'm taking. Let me see.

You got a big bite.

It's still there. It's not as red because you haven't put ice on it in a while. But it's the same size. Do you feel it?

Do you feel a protrusion? It's the same size. There's some kind of a bite or something.

It's like a golf, truly. It's maybe a little bigger than a golf ball.

It's like an A cup.

I think you're supposed to draw a circle around it, and then if it expands outside of the circle, you know it's getting bigger. Go draw a circle.

You got the pen ready to go. I'll look at the picture.

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