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price guarantee. Mojo in the morning show. As a kid, one of the greatest moments I think I ever had was when my brother's sisters or my dad or mom would drop me off at the Orland Square Mall where I grew up in Chicago, just outside Chicago. And I would go hang out with my friends and we would run around the mall we would go to the food court we'd do the whole day like a mall there and the and this was back when they had pay phones and we could never call our parents to pick us up because we didn't have cell phones so we would call collect and it would be you have a collect call from dad pick me up and that would mean that would know how he was supposed to pick up but i think i i don't remember how old i was that's what i was gonna ask how old is lucy so

loose is 10 and a half the half very important always and i just don't know what to do here i i know what i my gut is telling me to do but she was asking me last night if i could drop her off at the mall tomorrow with some friends to walk around and she said i i could come to the mall too i could stay at the mall but the girls wanted to walk around by themselves and i said no way because i i'm just a crazy person about that kind of stuff i mean you guys know this was the first summer i let her go to the dang park and by herself and i know i i feel like i'm being overprotective but i also feel like it's the mall there are some interesting tricky people at the mall and i also know that they're not going to stay in a group there's like five or six of them that are gonna that want to go and i know what will happen is like lucy and one of her other girlfriends will break off and want to go to altered state or sephora and then like they're not all gonna stick together but she said that all of the other girls moms let them do this oh does she hate that and that i am so not cool because i said no and i just said i just don't

feel comfortable like you're only in fifth grade um so i don't know you would be wait you would still be at the mall i would still be at the mall and you would be going to do your normal thing but so if anything happened you're able to anything happened it's too late at that point they're

already in a car being taken somewhere else i know that i think crazy i say if anything ever

happened to her i would never ever forgive myself i don't think you think crazy because that stuff does happen it's not like you've made up a scenario that doesn't happen to families across the world all of the time it just to me then becomes a question and i don't have the answer i'm not going to pretend like i have the answer i'm not a parent one of the benefits of this is that i don't have to worry about stuff like this but how often does it happen is something we have to factor in and then at what age do you let them go because if you never let them go out and be independent. 100%.

Like, you know, like, so there has to be a time, but when is it? 10 to me. And my babysitter's daughter was just at this same mall that the girls want to go to tomorrow and was followed for two hours before security finally stepped in and did something about it. And this was very recent.

And how old's the babysitter's?

26. Wow.

Hold on. Jen wants to say something about this. What do you say, Jen?

Good morning, you guys. I just want to say it's cool that she's letting Shannon go to the mall with them and just kind of be there just in case. But it also depends on which mall they're going to, like if it's Somerset Mall or Great Lakes Crossing.

Does it really depend, though? Because I've heard that some of the malls in the area that some people consider the nicer malls have had some issues when it comes to trafficking. I've seen stories before in the news. And I know you're saying.

I guess that's a fair point. Yeah.

Like, but does it also depend, like, she is in fifth grade. So I remember as a middle schooler, I was doing this.

Yeah.

Is it, but are you still, though, two years, even a year or two years older, are you still old enough now? Or is nowadays just not the same like it was?

Look, for me, with Luz, it's a flat out no. I don't care who mama said what. now if i were to allow my child to go i would be there and i wouldn't be in the food court across on the other side i'll be following their little asses i would keep a safe distance that's

what i said yeah i keep a super yeah don't see me but i will see exactly i think that's the only

way to do it i don't remember my first mall experience but i think i was around 13 or 14 when i used to get dropped off at the movies with my friends i used to go to fair lane because it was the movies right there next to the mall yeah and i think that was like let's go pick up girls But it's a different world right now, man. What's up, Alex? Hi.

Hi. I just wanted to make a comment. My daughter is giving me the same problem. She's in middle school. And I always tell her, I don't care what your friends' parents say. I'm not their mom. I'm your mom.

Oh, yeah.

And I'm going to do what I think is best for you. And I would never let her do that either. And she's older than Lucy.

So all of, well, not all of my friends, but a couple of my friends are telling me and everybody listening who is in this situation that we need to read the book the anxious generation which actually i just started and i i haven't gotten to this part yet but um and the whole the whole premise of that book is we need to loosen the leash a little bit really um i just

at 10 years old the guns are the mall i don't know because at 10 years old i was on my bike

all day with no cell phone and no nothing driving around or riding around the city and getting ice room and meeting up at the centennial quarry to go swimming like i know is that book saying that

we've ruined our kids because i've heard a lot of bosses saying that a lot of the kids that were helicoptered so much can't even do things functionally by themselves now as adults

because they didn't i hate when people like i hate the helicopter word i get it but overprotective but yeah but to me this is smothered lord above i just feel like i'm being a like a sure mom like yeah i still think she's young middle school yeah i probably think about it but

fifth grade i don't know i don't know the great portion then you say good morning everybody Morning. Morning.

Good morning. So I have a 13-year-old daughter, and I refuse to allow her to go to the mall by herself. It's not that I don't trust her. I don't trust the creeps out here. And it's the holiday times, too. It's so much that could go wrong. I just don't trust other people. Now, with you being in the mall with her, I would keep a close trail if that's the route you decide to go. But I wouldn't do it. And it's not about not trusting my baby. It's the people.

Yeah. Do you think, though, that are the people any different than the people were when we were younger? Or is it that we watch too much Dateline, NBC, or something?

No, they're getting more bold. They're snatching people out of Walmart these days. Yeah, but they were doing that in the 70s and the 60s. They were snatching people in parking lots and malls.

I think a lot of stuff is that we're more aware of what's taking place. When we were younger and we didn't have cell phones, we didn't have 24-hour television. some people didn't even have television to know what's going on now that you're more aware when

you have information you don't ignore it but sometimes we're hyper aware and then we fear something that is not common and we perceive it to be more common than it actually is i don't think this situation falls in that and i know we're talking about kids i know we're talking about safety and i think that makes it very difficult but it's it's very hard to be like yes there are children that are kidnapped but now no children can ever experience any sort of freedom because some children get kidnapped and i i see that point and that's why i'm saying i don't know

what to do in this situation because i feel

like a crazy person all the time i get it and i get yours i get what you're saying and it's the same like the question i wanted to ask you before we went to that call was what happens and again i'm not pretending like i know what the right choice is here but like what happens when your kids stop getting invited to hang out with your friend group and now you're affecting theirs and i'm not saying well just because they might not get invited to the next thing you should let your kids jump off a bridge like that's not it either but where's the balance look though i wish we

a cuss because i don't give a a flop what's going on outside the house as long as my child's safe give a damn about these little parties he ain't getting invited to it'd be all right how many people you still talk to from middle school it ain't important well the other thing too is that

the kids are that mean to not invite you just because your mom's protective but if you're not

allowed to do anything with the friend group they'll just stop asking now because they hate you but the answer is going to be no so why would i invite you but at least your kid's safe then

i would rather have my kids not have any friends but i don't i don't think that's healthy either to not have a social life. I'm just talking about the mall, though. We ain't talking about life.

Hey, hold on. Hold on. Is this really your name, or are you setting me up for, like, a D's Nuts type joke? No. Is your name Dunya?

It's Dunya.

Dunya. All right, Dunya. What's going on? How you doing?

Good. How are you?

Good.

Shannon, first off, I'm the opposite of the book. Parents need to parent. Absolutely not. Fifth grade is too young. I work at the mall. I see what goes on on a daily. I'm 44 years old, and I get hit on by the creepiest looking men that you've ever seen in your life. Do not send your daughter to the mall with her friends. I promise you she'll live to tell about it. Parent, and don't be afraid to parent. She's too young.

So when you say you work at the mall, what do you see there that would be something that would not be something good for Lucy?

Kids getting themselves into trouble by stealing, just doing dumb stuff throughout the mall. Yes, I'm sure it's innocent. the girls just want to go and shop but you know what unfortunately there are people out there that do not have the best intentions for your children or mine and mind you i have teenagers that are in college high school and an eight-year-old so i've seen it all throughout the years okay not be afraid to tell your daughter no she will live to tell about it all right is way too young because

remember i'm already not cool because she doesn't have yeah you know what you need to do you know

what added to the list well that's the other thing too she doesn't have a phone i think i She doesn't have a watch. Yeah, but that still worries me. You know what I mean?

I promise you, if she hates you right now, you're a good mom. You're doing your job. She will love you later. But she doesn't hate me. It's just this. I'm not cool. If she's stuck with you, she'll be fine. There's nothing good out there that she needs to be doing in fifth grade at the mall. You need to, at the very least, at least be there with her. At the very least.

Thank you for the call. Appreciate you.

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