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Update on MSU Campus Shooting
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Update on MSU Campus Shooting

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February 15, 2023 | 00:11:21 | Leisure

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All right. Let me real quick, though, get to an update. We'll get a news update in here on the latest from the Michigan State University shooting.

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The latest on what we know. we now know the names of the three students that lost their lives in Monday Night's Tragedy on campus. They are 20-year-old Brian Fraser from Grosse Pointe, 20-year-old Alexandria Werner from Clausen, and 19-year-old Ariel Diamond Anderson from Harper Woods. You want to talk about a little

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angel? Her name is Ariel. She helps everybody, anybody at any time. From the Grosse Pointe area

00:02:47 - 00:03:09 | Speaker 1:

to East Lansing communities are mourning and beginning the healing process with vigils and tributes and services. I know there is a vigil tonight on the campus of MSU. Interim President Teresa Woodruff expressing her gratitude to the community, to first responders, doctors, and sending condolences for the lives lost yesterday. Grief is a profoundly personal thing

00:03:09 - 00:03:27 | Speaker 3:

and we know the healing process will not be swift. We must take time to think, mourn and be together. I encourage everyone to honor their feelings and find comfort and solace in the close bonds that knit together our Spartan family. Classes are canceled for at least the rest

00:03:27 - 00:03:52 | Speaker 1:

of this week. As for the shooter, again, there's no connection to MSU or any of the victims. Investigators say he had psychiatric issues. They did find a three-page document in his pocket expressing his reasons for the attack and a number of additional locations in Michigan, New Jersey and Colorado which he thought were deserving of an attack detectives still trying to figure out a motive why MSU and we'll have another update for you coming up in the dirty

00:03:52 - 00:04:27 | Speaker 7:

I don't even know if we need why to know why the guy was nuts but the the thing that we definitely need to know why is the fact that uh he shouldn't have had a gun and uh that story uh you know we You hear all too often the fact that this guy, this Anthony McRae guy, was weaponized even though he, if the laws were followed, would not be. Here's a report from Channel 7. Ross Jones did a good report yesterday on this.

00:04:27 - 00:04:35 | Speaker 6:

Neighbors of Anthony McRae, the shooter who gunned down eight MSU students last night, told us they often heard gunfire coming from his Lansing home.

00:04:35 - 00:04:38 | Speaker 7:

Yeah, throughout the summer there was some random gunshots once in a while, yeah.

00:04:39 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 6:

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard those. I didn't know exactly where they were coming from. How often would you hear them? At least a couple times a month. By law, the shooter should never have had a gun. Not after a 2019 weapons conviction stemming from this abandoned office in Lansing. Police reported fining the gunman sitting on the steps here around 2 a.m. He was carrying a .380 semi-auto.

00:05:00 - 00:05:19 | Speaker 1:

pistol it was loaded officers found and there was another magazine in his pocket with no permit to carry the gunman was charged with a felony that would later be pled down to a misdemeanor his sentence was 18 months probation but MSU may not have been the gunman's only target police in New Jersey thing is the

00:05:19 - 00:06:07 | Speaker 2:

the story that's out this morning about him is that he should have not had a gun But there was the former district attorney in Ingham County, Carol Simon, lowered his charges to a misdemeanor, even though it should not have been a misdemeanor, and now is being called soft on crime. And there are people that are really upset about this. And I guess that they were upset about this. And this just shows you we don't pay attention sometimes to some of the things that some of these lawmakers are doing. But she kind of, with some other people that are politicians that honestly should have fingers pointed at them today, she kind of did this right before she left office because she's no longer the district attorney.

00:06:07 - 00:06:19 | Speaker 3:

But this is the sheriff of Ingham County, Scott Wigglesworth. It's rural and urban. It's that document. The people on that document are literally a cross-section of elected leaders in the county and who lives in this county.

00:06:19 - 00:06:29 | Speaker 4:

Elam County Sheriff Scott Wigglesworth is pushing for Seaman to reconsider the change, making his case to local elected officials and collecting signatures.

00:06:30 - 00:06:52 | Speaker 3:

My idea was to meet individually with the 23 elected leaders in the county, 16 township supervisors, five elected mayor and two village presidents to get their take on this policy. I in no way intended that to mean that they were speaking on behalf of their boards or every resident that lives in the township city or village. It was just a way for me to gauge how the community felt about this.

00:06:52 - 00:07:07 | Speaker 4:

Michigan created the felony firearm charge in 1976 because of a rise in gun violence. It's essentially a penalty for carrying a gun while committing another crime. Whether you use the gun or not, it carries a two-year sentence.

00:07:07 - 00:07:22 | Speaker 3:

She put in her press release and continues to say that this is a race equity issue, not a gun violence issue. Well, we also know in this county that black and brown people are overrepresented on the victim side of gun violence.

00:07:23 - 00:08:12 | Speaker 2:

When you hear stuff like this, and obviously we do need gun laws that are controlling gun laws, but we can't even do those gun laws. How is anything going to be done? I saw yesterday some of the state legislatures, both Republican and Democrat, saying they're going to come up with some kind of another school gun law that will kind of be similar to what they did after Oxford. but if you have people that don't enforce the laws you know what is wrong with taking away a person's uh if they're a criminal taking away their their gun that they have and not allowing them to have a gun and in this case who knows if the guy would have gotten a gun it would have to get it illegally but he got a gun legally because of this one after the oxford high school shooting

00:08:12 - 00:08:34 | Speaker 5:

they did bring in lansing they did bring simple background checks and red flag laws to the floor and the republicans who control the house and senate blocked the votes on that measures now democrats have full control for the first time in decades so they they either have to put up or shut up and and make this happen or this is not as hypocritical and this is the thing because

00:08:34 - 00:09:43 | Speaker 2:

you bring that up then all of a sudden it's finger pointing at at republicans finger pointing then democrats this is a human thing where these who i don't care what party you represent or if You are not affiliated with a party. When you see children that are getting murdered on campus, we need two things. We need to fix the laws that we have that aren't being enforced right now and then put some new laws in there. And we've got to start putting money back towards mental health. We took away all that money towards mental health, and it's ridiculous. And we experience that in our own lives when we're all trying to get therapy for things that we're dealing with in our mental health or our families, children's mental health. It's stupid that we don't do that. And everybody, you know, looks at these things, and I'm telling you, I already just looked at the national news. The national news didn't even have this as their top story still. This is like they moved on to something else now for a top story. This just goes by the way. And then they're the first ones to point out the fact that there have been 67 shootings since January, but it's because, all right, what's the next story? Let's move on to the next one. What do we got here?

00:09:43 - 00:09:59 | Speaker 5:

And on a national level, Congress came through together last year to push through the first major gun control legislation in decades. But mental health funding was one of the things that was pulled out of there that the two parties couldn't agree on. So I would say anyone that that is now, you know, tweeting or commenting on.

00:10:00 - 00:10:08 | Speaker 3:

You have to look at how they voted on that and hold them accountable if they're now talking about mental health but did not support the vote on mental health funding last year.

00:10:08 - 00:10:46 | Speaker 6:

And, honestly, hold the people accountable that voted not only against it this last time, but hold them accountable if they vote against it this time. That's the biggest thing. Because I see all too often where people will sit there and will be like, all right, we know that this is a deal. We're going to all say that we're going to try to fight for, you know, to be able to hold them accountable. And then what do we do? We never hold them accountable. November comes along and what ends up happening? Either you don't vote or you go to vote and you don't know who to vote for. So you just vote for a party that you you either think is the party that's right or wrong. And then we end up in the same predicament that we're in right now.

00:10:46 - 00:11:18 | Speaker 3:

So that's the sad thing. I brought up a post I did last May after the Uvalde shooting. And you realize, you know, not much has changed. Every time this comes around, there's a change. People forget. That's why when we had the governor and her opposing candidate on the air, I held them both to the standard of asking that question because shootings were not in the headlines at that time. And I feel like that's something we got to hold them to every time we get a chance with a microphone to say, OK, well, now the focus isn't on that. The thoughts and prayers were four months ago. But what are you going to do this time if we vote you in?

00:11:19 - 00:11:33 | Speaker 6:

The other thing also that bothers me, too, is the people that will say about thoughts and prayers. Listen, prayers. We need more prayer in our lives right now. As far as I'm concerned, we need to pray harder. These families are going to need prayers right now.

00:11:33 - 00:11:40 | Speaker 3:

That's what we can do, but the elected officials can do more than thoughts and prayers, and that's why we have to hold them accountable.

00:11:40 - 00:11:46 | Speaker 9:

I saw one elected official yesterday, actually, his tweet said, F, thoughts and prayers. Yeah. That was his comment.

00:11:46 - 00:12:03 | Speaker 6:

Which I will say this to you, I'm going to make sure that that elected official does something to stand up for these gun laws, because if he doesn't and just writes that as opposed to get a lot of likes or dislikes, you know, from comments, then that's exactly what happens with politics. But I'm going to move on after your last comment. Go ahead.

00:12:03 - 00:12:16 | Speaker 2:

I don't think we're addressing the real issue here, which is that these votes are paid for by special interest groups, no matter what side of the aisle it is. So until that stops, it doesn't matter what we think or want to change because their votes are getting bought on both sides.

00:12:16 - 00:12:23 | Speaker 6:

Amen. And you know what? Every politician, I believe, is in the pocket of somebody.

00:12:24 - 00:12:28 | Speaker 2:

There are a handful. Oh, I think most are. I would say there are less than 10 out of the hundreds.

00:12:29 - 00:12:36 | Speaker 6:

I don't buy it. I think that that's what these lobbyist jobs are. That's why the lobbyists are driving nice cars.

00:12:36 - 00:12:58 | Speaker 3:

But these red flag laws last year that they tried to pass could have – we don't know. It would have stopped, but it could have stopped. It wouldn't have stopped this guy. Well, he has mental health problems on the books. He has prior convictions on the books. That's the kind of thing these red flag laws can stop. It doesn't affect any normal legal gun owner. It only affects people that could be put on a list that are put on a danger to society by the law or by their family.

00:12:58 - 00:13:19 | Speaker 6:

But there was a law on the books in a in a prosecutor who did not want to prosecute the way that they should have prosecuted because they wanted probably to gain votes of people that she thought she was going to gain votes for decides not to charge him. That's the thing. That's a bunch of bullcrap. But all right, let me move on here right now because I'm about to swear again and I don't want Tony.

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