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Smell Joe in the morning. We got the Dirty coming up here in just a little bit. We got the War of the Roses. We got Second Date Update. Cav is being used as an alibi. Yes. And it's something that you're actually recommending?

Yes, I'm okay with it. I'm going through some things personally in my life. I've been going through things for a while and finally told my closest friends. I'm a person that keeps a lot of things to my chest. I don't like to tell, quote, unquote, my business. I also think that's how I was raised, like keep what's going on in the house. Are you doing okay? That's all I want to ask. I have my days, but yes. I think overall, I'm good, and I'll continue to be better, but I have my days. But I told my best friends everything that's going on in my life, and you know they are what best friends should be kev we here for you bro you should have been told us with you with you and so we've been outside a little bit but all of my friends are married so like the great husbands that they are they communicate to their partners hey not they're not saying this is what i'm doing but hey babe do you mind if we go out and after a few times it kind of gets to the point where you know the wife is like all right brad like once or twice like we got kids what's going on you can't go out every night so i tell them to use me and my situation as an alibi what do you mean like babe you know kev going through a lot of things right now i can't just leave him out there like this i need to be there for my brother so not even an alibi like like as a pity exactly you use me use me i'm your alibi let's go have some fun say

whatever you got to say you know what's funny though i've had many friends go through uh you know personal issues anytime i had a guy friend go through a breakup or anything relationship wise i could never tell chelsea that they were doing it because then chelsea thought i'm going out with them who's outside to get his leftovers or something you know yeah so i'm surprised that your friends the married guys and the taking guys i'm surprised that their girls aren't like Stay away from Kevin, because Kevin's got some bad-

They love me.

Really?

Yes. They want to make sure I'm good.

Really?

So use me as the alibi.

So are you calling them with enough notice for them to break the news?

Yeah, we had Woodbridge this Thursday doing karaoke again.

Wait a second.

You've done karaoke a couple of times and have not told us? I'm so lit off karaoke right now. I got my two songs already lined up and ready to go.

Why am I not part of this guy group? I thought I was a guy friend of yours. Huh?

You can come next week.

Where's Gerard at? Gerard, are you listening? Gerard, if you're listening, I want to know why I haven't been invited. Gerard told me when we were golfing that I was one of the guys. Look, Gerard hasn't been out either.

I didn't invite him either.

What?

I know, bro.

Why not Gerard?

I don't know. These are just my guys from the high school. Really? We in a group chat.

Are they the guys that you can get crazy with?

They was all at the party, too.

Sometimes you get crazy friends And sometimes you have The not crazy friends

Yeah you got your groups I'm the craziest one I feel like out of our friend group I'm the most like wildest spontaneous type

Have any of their significant others Reached out to you to corroborate a story Since you are the alibi

Nah It's pretty safe over here You know what I mean Not even that

I mean like before you even going out Is this true that he's out to support you

or what's the real story? That'd be crazy, no.

Are the girls that are of these guys, are the girls of these guys always like, are they like sisters to you too? Yeah, I've known them

for, like these guys, these are guys. guys that I've known since 2004. You know what I mean? I know their wives for over 10 years. If I went to Chelsea and I

said, Kev's going through something, and she knows. If I said to her, Kev needs me to go meet him at the bar. First off, she would never deny it. She would never say, no, you can't go. But she would definitely be like, oh, really? It would be one of those things. You trying to go to Ocean Prone at the bar on Thursdays? Thursday nights. Thursday nights, the pickup spot. Not my Chelsea, but some other Chelsea here. I love your name. What's up, Chelsea?

Hi, guys. What's going on? So I've done the same thing. I've had stuff going on. There's a specific good friend of mine in particular. I won't mention names because they listen and they know my voice. But all the time I used to tell her, her boyfriend was kind of a jerk, and I had a lot going on at the time. And I just told her, like, let him know I'm tripping. I'm freaking out. I'm having a bad day or, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I let my friends do it all the time. I don't care. They're not doing anything wrong. They just need to get away from their jerk boyfriends.

So they would call you specifically to put the call in for her?

Yeah, and I don't answer the phone. And all their boyfriends, because I'm married myself, but all of, you know, all my friends' boyfriends, like they have my phone number and stuff. like that i just don't answer the phone we're out we're doing something i'm i didn't i didn't have my phone oops i left my phone at home my husband had my phone sorry um by the way it's always good

to have a friend that's going through a through an emotional time then yeah exactly then you can

blame it all on them you know what i mean exactly that hey i don't care what their boyfriends think as long as my husband's happy with me i don't care about them exactly there you go that's the

hence the reason why we're not in that relationship anymore, right?

Probably.

Yeah. Hold on. I'm calling Chelsea to see if she'll let me go out with Kevin. You think she'll let me go out with him?

Yes. I think so.

You think so?

You know what? What are you doing Friday? Hello.

Chelsea.

Yeah.

You know how Kev's kind of going through something right now?

Mm-hmm.

Can I ask her? Go ahead.

Chelsea. you know you know what's going on right now and it's been tough as you know and um we got to go to toledo on saturday and mojo's been so gracious and um allowing us to ride with him and i'm very appreciative of that but um friday um we wanted to go to the strip club and i need mojo to come

leave me for support um okay hell yeah oh come on it's that she's full of that okay is not she just wants me out of the house you just want me out of the house

you can take them tonight tomorrow but you know what happens i come home from the strip club i

get hornier than ever and all i do is like sit there and like hump your leg or something

uh no no you can sleep on the couch i'll lock it away uh by the way chels at any time and i've had

a lot of friends that have gone through stuff at any times were there any friends that were my single friends that you would not like me to go out with because kev's buddies are using him

as their alibi to go out and have guys nights i think there was just one who i didn't appreciate him sending you photos of the girls he was in bed with like literally when he was in bed with them I just thought that that was inappropriate but other than that listen, you know, you need to be with your friends I get it

Don't be sending that stuff to the group chat Alright, I love you, I will talk to you later I'm not going to the strip club by the way I can't go to strip clubs, you want to know I can't go to

strip clubs? Kev, I'll go with you Yeah, that's what I want

I can't go to strip clubs because the worst feeling in the world is when a stripper comes up to you and goes, I've been listening to you since I was in high school.

Grade school.

Yeah, grade school. It's like, yeah, thanks a lot. All right, I love you.

Bye.

Bye. What's going on, Whitney? How are you?

Hey, how are you guys?

We're all right. What's happening?

My best friend lives two hours away. So if I ever need a weekend with no kids, I told my husband, she's a single mom. I got to go.

Yeah. And are you usually truthful about it, or are you lying when you're doing that?

Well, I mean, she has a single mom, so she always needs help. I love it. It's like, I'm not lying about that part. Right, right.

But is it single mom, and I'm not with the kids at all? That's the thing.

No, she has her kids usually.

Oh, okay. All right. If she has her kids, then it's not that bad. If all of a sudden she's a single mom, and you guys are nowhere around kids, then I would be like. okay, there's something crazy.

Nah, we wouldn't do that.

All right, well, now you can use Kevin as your alibi.

Oh, for sure. Yes, first time, long time.

All right.

First time you don't deserve to be here.

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I'm Emily Oster. I'm an economist and data expert.

And I'm Perry Wilson. I'm a medical doctor.

And this is our new podcast, Wellness Actually.

You're getting a staggering amount of health and wellness information, and some of it is awesome.

And some of it is, well, actually, bulls**t. Fortunately, we're both people who know how to read studies and can tell you what's worth trying out and what you can safely ignore.

Listen to Wellness Actually on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.