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July 21, 2026 | 02:40:30 | Comedy, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality | Explicit

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Welcome back to another episode of NDS Chronicles, where David Lee Corbo (The Raven), TopLobsta, and Matt Hepner read and react to real paranormal testimonies submitted by listeners. This episode explores strange encounters, supernatural experiences, cryptid reports, spiritual warfare, and the Biblical worldview behind the unexplained. From eerie stories that begin like Bigfoot encounters to discussions about the mysterious "hitchhiker effect," UFOs, demons, witchcraft, and spiritual deception, the hosts examine these reports through the lens of Scripture rather than popular paranormal culture. They also discuss how supernatural encounters can sometimes escalate into broader spiritual experiences, drawing connections between cryptid sightings, poltergeist activity, and Biblical discernment. The conversation expands into topics including the modern UFO phenomenon, MKUltra, telepathy, Hollywood's portrayal of aliens, and why the Bible remains the ultimate framework for understanding supernatural events. Rather than accepting paranormal claims at face value, the hosts compare testimony against Biblical teaching and encourage Christians to exercise wisdom and discernment. The episode also includes updates on Brohemian Grove, upcoming live events, the Nephilim Death Squad community, listener submissions, and future guests from the paranormal and Christian research communities. If you enjoy conversations about: Paranormal testimonies UFOs and alien encounters Bigfoot and cryptids Demonic deception Spiritual warfare Biblical prophecy Christian apologetics Conspiracy research through a Biblical lens ...then this episode is for you. Have you experienced something supernatural? Share your testimony in the comments, and let us know how you interpret these encounters through Scripture. We'd love to hear your thoughts and continue the discussion. ► Subscribe for more Biblical analysis, Christian worldview discussions, and conspiracy research through a Biblical lens. Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and everywhere podcasts are available. 00:00 Intro & NDS Chronicles Opening 00:56 Welcome & Listener Paranormal Testimonies 03:20 Patreon & Community Bible Study 05:10 Brohemian Grove Event Update 10:45 Upcoming Guests & Live Event Discussion 18:40 First Paranormal Testimony 35:10 Bigfoot & The Hitchhiker Effect 49:20 Cryptids, Orbs & Supernatural Activity 01:09:30 UFOs, Aliens & Biblical Interpretation 01:28:15 Hollywood, MKUltra & Spiritual Deception 01:49:40 Witchcraft, Demonic Influence & Discernment 02:10:50 Bible Discussion & Christian Perspective 02:28:00 Final Testimonies & Closing Thoughts Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/nephilim-death-squad--6389018/support . ☠️ Nephilim Death Squad — New episodes 5x/week. Join our Patreon for early access, bonus shows & the private Telegram hive. Subscribe on YouTube & Rumble, follow @NephilimDSquad on X/Instagram, grab merch at toplobsta.com. Questions/bookings: [email protected] — Stay dangerous.
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00:01:31 - 00:02:23 | Speaker 5:

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matthew hefner before we get into today's episode a little reminder if you want to support us patreon.com forward slash nephilim death squad sign up there gain early access to episodes before the general public add free listening experiences uh access to communities of dangerous retards on twitter on discord and on telegram i believe um and on x as well i know well that's twitter i said twitter yeah yeah also every wednesday the community is getting together and they're doing a bible study so if you're into that you got to get into these communities and come and hang and be a part of all of the learning and the diving into scripture also discount codes off of merchandise from top lobster.com where not only you're going to gain access to our merchandise that's made by top lobster but you're also going to get tickets to brohemia and grove you've got to pay for those of course oh shit a new sound um august 8th we're really close my god we're very close

00:03:50 - 00:04:03 | Speaker 6:

super close it's gonna be right around the corner close i'm i was feeling a little bit of anxiety that's what was wrong with you today you were very secretive was that what it was well no i mean no yeah you're different today was that what it is anxiety well i mean you know he

00:04:03 - 00:04:08 | Speaker 7:

says he wasn't doing a show with me he's doing a show with you and you're very low energy so he's

00:04:08 - 00:04:26 | Speaker 6:

got to lower his energy i come in here the energy's high everything gets higher um that's because i'm respectful to you that's all like you were just doing this big intro and i didn't cut you off or flip you off in the middle of the video or start yelling things in the background he's referencing because what's nice is where like when you come into somebody else's place of business you show them respect that's all okay frequently asked questions where is

00:04:26 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 7:

brohemian grove this year oh uh click on the one that says should i be respecting matt 8 8 it's on 8 8 wildwood florida so show up come yeah come to florida that's like central florida i tried to invite isaac weiss up and he said uh absolutely very occulted of you and i said we just fucking go wherever that's the date that was available yeah that's what you know that's that's what's available also guys we have a killer lineup oh actually no i can't read hold on i'll tell you what it is in a second ed mabry's

00:05:00 - 00:05:35 | Speaker 2:

going to be there dr heather lynn uh hidden in plain sight paranoid american cheney donut is going to be there uh brian of demon erasers jake and jeremiah of uh schema news network uh laura baker dave of isaac's army bill and ted of the phone booth podcast the list goes on and on and we also have owen benjamin which was formerly a secret now it's out in the open so go and get your tickets if you want to see big bear he's going to be there it's going to be a lot of fun it'll be a live interview with uh owen benjamin it's going to be fun i think uh oh yeah the fog machine will also be making an appearance uh final oh wait no we're not allowed to fuck i looked into the fine print of the thing and it was like absolutely absolutely no fog yeah you

00:05:35 - 00:05:38 | Speaker 1:

asked them about sparklers you're like erica kirk style and they were like they said no you

00:05:38 - 00:05:55 | Speaker 2:

can't do that i really did want to do that um raven where did you get that shirt i love this shirt i've had this shirt for a grip um oh yeah i've seen that yeah there's a thousand episodes of this shirt they say a multitude a multitude of times and so um but thank you for the shirt compliments i'm always open he goes through seasons with shirts if you notice there'll be

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the same shirt like four times what's that beige one the beige one he wears a lot with the car on

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it but then it just goes away blue it's blue and it has the car on it no no there's a beige one

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that goes like every other episode for two weeks and then it's gone for a month there's a a gray

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one with some muay thai stuff on it there's a blue one with a mustang on it um i like that one yeah i like that one too uh and there's a couple of them i have like five good shirts i think so

00:06:20 - 00:06:31 | Speaker 3:

something like that no no no you have way more than five you think so you guys have way you guys have like female amount of outfits your fingers smell like shit today you guys have 30 different

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outfits yeah why do your fingers smell like that i i'm a t-shirt i mean i was a fucking manufacturer's t-shirts i thought it was explicit with this when i said i made t-shirts so yeah i have a lot of t-shirts too many t-shirts yeah i get some no absolutely like xl playing around i'm gonna make some no i don't make xl we don't make sure that's a lot of fat motherfuckers um

00:06:51 - 00:07:23 | Speaker 2:

ouch david so should we talk about anything before we get into it guys go and check out our episode that we did yesterday with uh james of dark water that go i heard a lot about it was a banger that's a dude that uh wasn't on my radar and then he reached out to us to have us on the show and i got a really good feeling about it and when we ended up talking to him i loved him i loved him we posted it yesterday in the patreon everybody else loved him fantastic dude only does what the lord tells him to do seems really really locked in really really locked in he's the guy

00:07:23 - 00:07:42 | Speaker 1:

that if anyone was wondering he brought a battle axe to alex jones how crazy is that yeah that went viral and i saw that and i i recognized but i didn't put again i didn't put it together like the leo zagami thing oh he didn't put that together either yeah yeah because our life is just like a constant mix of like craziness happening at all times we just go wherever

00:07:42 - 00:08:13 | Speaker 2:

we're supposed to go whenever we're supposed to go there so are you surprised that it went so well with this gentleman no i wasn't surprised at all because that's what we do um what i was surprised about is you know me i don't give my phone number out like i don't talk to people uh i actually have been texting him i got off a 45 minute phone call with him he's basically my new best friend so guys go and check out james williams of dark waters he's an og he's been around for a long time it's not my i believe he is one of the og dog man guys um so heavy and decryptids and and

00:08:13 - 00:08:22 | Speaker 1:

you know he apparently has some experience he said he's planned out three different parts of three different shows with us hell yeah let's go things that he's gonna cover so i like i'm like

00:08:22 - 00:08:27 | Speaker 2:

all right yeah let's do this guy i'm about it let me tell you uh we we talked quite a bit about uh

00:08:27 - 00:08:34 | Speaker 3:

you think he just recognized real you think real recognized real and he's just like yo i didn't know these guys before and now they're on my radar like i want to mess with these well the way it's

00:08:34 - 00:09:00 | Speaker 1:

it's funny the way it happened was i sit down and i go hey david are we going on his show or is he comment on ours because the email is not very explicit and you know like when we're making we have to make the stream we have to put all like all the stuff the thumbnails and dave's like i don't know it was like obscure like we're dealing with this book i think we the booker explicitly said we would be honored to host you and then he sent us an information packet for him yeah yeah which

00:09:00 - 00:09:03 | Speaker 2:

typically doesn't happen unless somebody's going to appear on your show it looks like it looks like

00:09:03 - 00:09:35 | Speaker 1:

i'm making a thumbnail for you now or doing descriptions for you so i'm like i'm confused and i have done nothing i have done absolutely nothing yeah like what's going on here so it's kind of like i don't know who he is he doesn't know who we are and it turns out like all right yeah we'll host you so they they they host us and before the chat i really love he was honest too before the chat he said the same thing that we said i think we said it to steven but steven didn't get it what's that what we're like like when we're talking about we said it to doc too we're like with interviews you're like interviews you know yeah i gotta talk to this guy this guy's gonna

00:09:35 - 00:09:45 | Speaker 2:

to tell me about dispensation whatever he's gonna tell us about yeah dude he expressed being kind of sick and tired of interviews i'm not i'm not like sick and tired he said bored of and it's just like

00:09:45 - 00:09:50 | Speaker 1:

yeah it gets boring it gets monotonous what do you mean so like the main play is just do your

00:09:50 - 00:09:54 | Speaker 3:

thing whatever your thing is put that out as opposed to that's what he's been doing yeah but

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then there is times there are times where you need to step out of your own little game that You're playing in.

00:10:00 - 00:10:09 | Speaker 4:

talk to other people yeah but oftentimes like the more and more we do this show especially the more grounded we become in the bible we're like this was a little bit of a waste of time sure you know

00:10:09 - 00:10:17 | Speaker 6:

and i don't want to do when we were going on tinfoil hat we had this discussion about like what are we going to present and i'm like i hate that notion what are we going to present interesting

00:10:17 - 00:10:22 | Speaker 4:

because yeah what well that audience apparently did not like that uh that they hate us over there

00:10:22 - 00:10:26 | Speaker 6:

on tinfoil hat doesn't matter we're still on mount crush more sensitive to the comments

00:10:26 - 00:10:38 | Speaker 4:

no no i don't care i don't care what they think i'm just saying what they think but i don't like listen dude if i cared what what anybody thought they thought i wouldn't be sitting here right now

00:10:38 - 00:10:46 | Speaker 5:

and also they wouldn't be sitting there watching why did you make this comment about like what the people thought when you went on because it's an interesting marker okay so like i sent you a

00:10:46 - 00:12:04 | Speaker 4:

message i said do you see this it's an interesting marker is it true is it not true that's up to you to believe it but look at it and then know whether to discard it or change your behavior in the future is the marker like what happened like okay so the marker is me and david went on tinfoil hat yeah we did a little jokey jokey for the first 20 30 minutes and then we kind of gave our testimony which somebody there was a i saw a fair comment that said these guys only talk about the same thing i was like well this was like the episode where we wanted to bring this yeah rather than something else and uh some people were just like there was another a couple of comments were like these guys are just a bunch of grifters uh making it up isn't it made we made up all this making it up and then then it goes along to they extrapolate sometimes and they'll go yeah man they should start doubting the stuff with jesus and i was like okay got you now i know where you're coming from so i now i know this comment is based in yeah or based in your uh how do you determine that though how do you because if you hate jesus and we're talking about jesus and we're pointing directly at him on a show that not many people go and do that People go on there and they present things and they present information. We said, we don't care. Ball's on the table. We're going to present our testimony in a way. And we're also going to point right at Jesus unabashedly. So the people that don't like that, don't like that. Yeah.

00:12:04 - 00:12:49 | Speaker 6:

And that's fine. That's the main thing that I want to do. So, you know, going back to where the original idea was like, what are we going to present? Which is such a false thing, at least for me. It's not in my spirit to be like, well, I'd better go and find something worth researching and concoct this entire theory and go and present it to somebody like that's bullshit. That's not what I do on this show. I try to be aware of when I'm being led to something. And if something organically happens, something genuinely happens, if I feel like God led me to something and showed me something, I'm going to talk about that. Oh, mind trip and says I listened to the tinfoil hat episode. It's more of an actual introduction of you guys instead of thrown into when you first went on. yeah that's that's kind of how it went most people go on there and they're like you know what it sucks

00:12:49 - 00:13:11 | Speaker 3:

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00:13:11 - 00:13:16 | Speaker 2:

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00:13:17 - 00:13:48 | Speaker 1:

Summer should mean fun, sunshine, and a break from school. But for a lot of kids across our area, it can also mean missing out on the meals they count on during the school year. Hey, it's Cammie for Feeding the Gulf Coast. That's why Feeding the Gulf Coast's summer meals program is so important. They help provide free, nutritious meals to children throughout the summer across the Gulf Coast. And this is where your local organization can really step up. If you are a church, school, community center, or organization that wants to help make sure kids are fed this summer, you can apply to become a summer meals program site at feedingthegolfcoast.org.

00:13:49 - 00:14:00 | Speaker 4:

They're like, where are you from? What do you do? Okay. What are you bringing? And then here's information. Yeah. And the information is about something that happened in 1947. But it's not about me and David and our show and what we're doing.

00:14:01 - 00:14:10 | Speaker 5:

That's the context of Straight Bible. It's like the interview sessions is specifically like, yeah, tell your story. like whatever your content is anybody who watches you knows your content but who are you what's your

00:14:10 - 00:14:26 | Speaker 6:

story well it's not that's not the platform spliffy said people like to present around jesus on tinfoil hat and that is kind of what they do it's like jesus is a footnote and they'll mention things that are like biblically adjacent but i understand that technique when you're talking to

00:14:26 - 00:14:39 | Speaker 4:

because you have to understand the fan base of tinfoil hat as well they're the swarm and i love those guys oh yeah but not all of them are like uh biblically based or like are any of them like

00:14:39 - 00:14:49 | Speaker 5:

is that yeah that's their context is the bible i'm a fan of it yeah so here we are i know but i'm just saying like tim foil hat does like bible content sometimes they'll have i mean sam will

00:14:49 - 00:15:00 | Speaker 4:

have everybody on and some people will touch i think we were probably we probably went the hardest in the paint especially towards the end there we're talking about god putting his hands on things and yeah not just bible stuff but

00:15:00 - 00:15:38 | Speaker 1:

like yeah when we were saying like unabashed i think i said something like uh this is the direction that i was headed in every time i've done this thing and listened to god and went in that direction it's bore good good fruit and i'm not going to stop doing that yeah that's a hard testimony like not hard but like definitive yeah it's a lot of the same thing i haven't said like uh oh you know following god is a great thing maybe people should try it i'm like no i've done it yeah and i'm gonna keep doing it yeah and here's what it's bore out so it's it's a it's a bit of i guess you call it a brave statement especially for the uh the venue the venue's

00:15:38 - 00:15:47 | Speaker 3:

not for that it's not for interviews in general it's not to say that's what sam is trying to keep away either it's just like people just the way it goes it's the way it goes yeah so yeah they want

00:15:47 - 00:15:54 | Speaker 2:

to but that's where the comments got funny where you were like even aware of the con i've just never known you'd even be like aware of the comment i see them but i don't pay attention

00:15:54 - 00:16:07 | Speaker 1:

to him but like i again i i see what they say and then if my behavior needs to be modified if the criticism is valid then i'll take it which is hard to do on the internet somebody said that

00:16:07 - 00:16:15 | Speaker 3:

you talk too much and i was like they definitely think you are me so i just skipped that like okay i talk too much i know i don't talk too much it's me that they're talking about i'm pretty sure they

00:16:15 - 00:16:21 | Speaker 1:

just mince the names they said that we talked too much on the uh the james episode yeah and we're

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like well he interviewed i talk too much every episode though that's something that i just i simply can't change but the contrast i thought you guys crushed talking too much well being being on tinfoil hat and i guess their audience is probably getting sick of us a lot of them are haters whatever doesn't matter um and then being on james show and like every comment is like this

00:16:38 - 00:16:43 | Speaker 2:

was fantastic and we didn't come there to present you guys are all looking in the comments now yeah

00:16:43 - 00:17:07 | Speaker 3:

i'm interested to see like did we do well for this guy that's really did we do well for this guy like did did his audience enjoy it is this something that he's going to um uh benefit from yeah he did you a solid you're like i want to do it i want to make sure that we're doing good by him yeah and overwhelmingly everybody loved it and i'm like we didn't even go on there to talk about anything except for god except for god like that's the main thing and i don't want to talk

00:17:07 - 00:17:16 | Speaker 2:

about all i know you guys i'm guessing that like 30 seconds before you went on his show you had no clue what you were no we had no you guys too well like that's exactly how we spoke with him before

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and we're like what do you want to talk he wanted to create like an outline for what we were gonna you know and i don't even know if we got to we had some fun gravy i thought like the disclosure

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day stuff maybe we'll talk about it on our show a little bit later but that was very matt you'd probably find it a little bit interesting as well like oh disclosure day or the the episode itself well the disclosure day idea the shenanigans that were pulled and the slipperiness of hollywood and

00:17:37 - 00:17:46 | Speaker 3:

the jewish director that is called steven fielberg we very much talked about effectively replacing one tall white dude with another tall white dude but you're like the better tall white dude

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yeah you're you're our tall wait wait so how did the movie come back to the jews like what is

00:17:52 - 00:18:59 | Speaker 1:

spielberg spielberger witz spielberg stein steven spielberg is a jew yeah and i just find it interesting that so the long and short of what i'm what i presented in a way is that the alien phenomenon and uh all of the facts around it the facts were all nailed like they did a great job they even did like recreations of uh different alien encounters that were like you can tell it wasn't grainy footage because they like reshot it and all the lore all the mk ultra stuff the telepathy all that stuff is great yeah where he missed was i mean they quoted the bible and they actually misquoted it grossly misquoted what they quote they quoted genesis 1 26 27 where it says uh god's talking to i guess he's talking to either uh maybe he's jesus and the holy spirit maybe he's talking to himself let us create man in our image yeah yeah and then and give him dominion over uh you know everything the beast of the earth and all stuff like that yeah the earth they said uh the quote that they said was that god created a supreme b he created man supreme the supreme being on earth or he's the supreme creation on earth and it's like no no it's never

00:18:59 - 00:19:22 | Speaker 2:

like that well there is that that's not it's not worded like that but that's not wrong that's not wrong statement it's an incorrect statement wait we just read it where uh in ephesians 2 where it said that um we are his workmanship and it's that greek word poema which means like his masterpiece like like what else on the earth is greater than man on no no so the uh i i say that the

00:19:23 - 00:19:33 | Speaker 1:

the multiplier word there would be on earth now she's justifying outer space life and and the The previous statement before that in the conversation was I'll read.

00:19:34 - 00:19:43 | Speaker 2:

Well, there's a discussion about that because it's like, has man been given dominion over outer space? Like if the dude saying we're going to go take over the moon or we're going to go take over Mars.

00:19:43 - 00:19:58 | Speaker 1:

I'll read this to you, though. And this is the context that you have to view that. I'll read both quotes. So the first one is. The ex nun is speaking to the main protagonist who wants to do alien disclosure. And she goes, do you think it's a good idea?

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She was like a Catholic.

00:20:00 - 00:20:58 | Speaker 3:

nun she was an ex-catholic she's out she's out she's dating this guy they're on the run okay um but she asked him after he shows her some of the stuff she says do you think it's a good idea because uh proving the existence of aliens would disrupt a social order built on belief of a supreme being by showing them actual supreme beings so supreme being being the word lower as she gods uh-huh um then later on a nun speaks to her and she's having this doubt with her faith and she says genesis says that we're his supreme creation and she goes ah genesis says we're his supreme creation on earth so now we're getting to this idea of supreme being supreme creation and there's like this weird line drawn where they're trying to uh they're trying to say that the aliens now are standing alongside god as supreme beings and then also they're pointing out to outer space and they're saying no no we're just on earth it's just an intrigue well that's an

00:20:58 - 00:21:12 | Speaker 1:

intriguing discussion because as you study that out it does look like i mean it's obviously not that language like we're not referred to as supreme beings in any way but like but like we are the pinnacle of the creation sure that like man i just don't think there's anything created

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outside of earth i don't think it's out i don't think it's in outer space in these planets i think

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there's no such thing as mars then is that like a flat earth thing or is mars isn't real or saturn get with the program dude i mean i don't know what the things are is there is there anything alive on it oh i see yeah yeah so that's where i'm at too yeah i don't i don't know if there is either but mars is there i think mars is there wait wait i don't know it could also be a light i

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don't know what i don't know what the stuff is we're looking at it from however many miles away

00:21:39 - 00:21:50 | Speaker 1:

through a telescope like all right right right it's just something it's just an interesting discussion because we're saying we're going outer space and it's like has man been given dominion of outer space he's been given dominion over earth it's an interesting discussion that's

00:21:50 - 00:21:54 | Speaker 2:

all go ahead i don't know i'm just mad you keep making up shit about mars and outer space okay

00:21:54 - 00:21:57 | Speaker 1:

can you show us the guy with the bear dude everybody wants to see that you're giving us

00:21:57 - 00:22:21 | Speaker 2:

little like hints and clues i love this guy i've been putting this up on the screen the whole time you guys have been talking bro i don't know why but we just found this in our inbox i guess leo zagami intended for us to use it uh you know as like did he send that to us yeah yeah this is the greatest fucking picture i've ever seen in my life this is like that this guy is maybe the coolest fucking guy you net said evil clint he does like remember when i made clint that guy

00:22:21 - 00:22:30 | Speaker 1:

with the cowl and the cape yeah this guy just like if you were in italy with this dude he would take you like really good italian restaurants i feel like he would take me to the vatican and

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tell me some secrets on the rooftop yeah this guy is so cool bro i love this dude um you know what's funny is how much the albarino thing keeps coming up in all of our discussions so obviously came up with with zagami and and it came up yesterday with um i thought you guys dropped it uh we did drop it but it keeps just it's picking us up can't quit him can't quit him yeah so daddy

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is in in hot water again what did you think uh what do you think james though when he called him daddy we laughed he mentioned he mentioned albarino and and we go oh yeah daddy and he was kind of like huh i know the bible says you call no man daddy but

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so he's buddies with alberino no he doesn't like him at all i think he called him a wanker uh i think he said he serves a different kingdom he serves a different kingdom there's only two kingdoms yesterday said two kingdoms and uh he's not serving the kingdom of the lord and so yeah he did say that um and i don't know how much i i want to give away but i did uh have some follow

00:23:29 - 00:23:39 | Speaker 3:

up what do you think about that man what do you think about that long exasperated sigh it was it's another discussion that we've had before where i mean like with derrick gilbert

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like body of christ and i was like i must not be part of this body no you're making that that's

00:23:44 - 00:24:01 | Speaker 2:

two totally different things dude yeah simulacra time says he said he's don't think it is who daddy yeah he told us that he's possessed that that's what james said yesterday that's what james said i really fucking like james uh i really do dude that is a cool guy man i feel

00:24:01 - 00:24:06 | Speaker 3:

mad about that i don't want to say he's like was he green the whole episode you recorded with him

00:24:06 - 00:24:20 | Speaker 2:

i was like listen i was like he probably has bad lighting and like uh and he was also like hung over and i don't know and stuff or you know he's demonically oppressed uh he's doing witchcraft how come he's looking down the whole time because he's reading from his book of spells that is on

00:24:20 - 00:24:30 | Speaker 1:

his lap the entire time he's got this what what was he saying though just did alberino has the opportunity to preach christ and is kind of doing just more of the alien thing because i know that's

00:24:30 - 00:24:44 | Speaker 2:

been brought up against him before he's saying that he's he's no longer preaching the gospel he's no longer christ-centric instead he is idolizing he's made idols out of these fallen angels and nephilim uh you know aliens and things like that which is a lot of our gripe

00:24:45 - 00:24:58 | Speaker 3:

that is true though it's a lot of our great but a lot of people have done that in a way that true like where you start to you start to look at uh the bible and then you get extra extra biblical yeah and then from there then you're like in some kabbalistic stuff then you're in the occult plus

00:24:58 - 00:25:00 | Speaker 2:

And then Jesus starts to change.

00:25:00 - 00:25:10 | Speaker 3:

he's like well maybe it's got to do with the vertebrae of like um kind of being like desperate for content is that like a like the danger is like you got to be on the cutting edge of the content

00:25:10 - 00:25:36 | Speaker 4:

well being desperate for content is a trap i mean you're you're correct in that and i think that we have avoided that trap there's a lot of people that will try and they'll do a bunch of crazy research and they'll try to present something present something and then that becomes a trap we don't care about the audience we don't care about presenting something we just come on the the show and have fun and i asked holy spirit to move us and sometimes something really amazing happens uh and it's got really little to do with us i think writing a book is a is a trap that's

00:25:36 - 00:25:59 | Speaker 6:

a bit of a trap what do you mean writing a book about a theory specifically that you need to then hold on to because now if that's published and it becomes number one best time seller or whatever it is that's your word oh yeah you're saying that uh birthright not just birthright how about like paul stops i like paul stops but paul stops is the nephilim are clowns guys oh yeah yeah and then

00:25:59 - 00:26:07 | Speaker 4:

that becomes like you know your thing for for you know after a certain amount of time people hitting you up to come and talk about the same shit over and over again it's probably like damn

00:26:07 - 00:26:16 | Speaker 6:

they keep on hitting up ed they're like still doesn't debate me on the little season and he's like i only did like a little bit about that but he wrote a book on it and now you're that guy

00:26:16 - 00:26:37 | Speaker 3:

you know what i mean because you wrote a book on it but well isn't that like denominations fall into that too man they they rally around like one specific truth and they're all about that and then yeah what if you keep reading the bible and you start coming to different conclusions as you tie other passages together you go you know what i used to think this but now i think this but if you have a book locked into that denomination already and you have to tote that if you have

00:26:37 - 00:26:43 | Speaker 6:

a book where you wrote in black and white what you thought yeah you can't say i think something

00:26:43 - 00:26:47 | Speaker 3:

else what are you saying i can 100 come back and say yeah i thought that oh you can we can i i do

00:26:47 - 00:27:05 | Speaker 6:

i can yeah yeah you can everybody can everybody can but will everybody if you have an ego if you have pride and if you're scared to be i guess taken as like an unserious person yeah because other people will go well look at what you said here and i like they'll they'll do that to me look at what you said here and i'm like i don't think that anymore and then they'll try to pin

00:27:05 - 00:27:34 | Speaker 4:

you to it based in truth man yeah i don't think that anymore so what that's why the only time i've ever had any interest in writing a book which i'm lazy and undisciplined and probably won't do it but is about my own testimony it's only it's my own testimony it's my experience that's not something that is um you know it's not a theory it's what i experienced so i can speak to that confidently and not have my opinion of it change because i i went through these things you know but but if you're gonna start like a theory that i've been working on and i loosely working

00:27:34 - 00:28:01 | Speaker 5:

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summer should mean fun sunshine and a break from school but for a lot of kids across our area it can also mean missing out on the meals they count on during the school year hey it's cammy for feeding the gulf coast that's why feeding the gulf coast summer meals program is so important they help provide free nutritious meals to children throughout the summer across the gulf coast and this is where your local organization can really step up if you are a church school community center or organization that wants to help make sure kids are fed this summer you can apply to become a summer meals program sites at feeding the golf coast org um is this idea that what mk ultra or

00:28:41 - 00:28:51 | Speaker 4:

the gate program is selecting for is generational iniquity and i've been having some fun doing it what is the gate program the gate program is kids and talented yeah program wait from when you're

00:28:51 - 00:28:55 | Speaker 3:

like a little kid and you go to you're in the gate program yes yeah yeah so this is an election

00:28:55 - 00:29:01 | Speaker 6:

uh i i mines was called sigma i wasn't it was called gate when i was a kid yeah it's a thing

00:29:01 - 00:29:53 | Speaker 4:

it's the same thing same shit yeah yeah sigma gate is mk ultra gifted and talented it is widely accepted that it's a selection process for an mk ultra program or adjacent program a lot of now uh okay so um the thing that that i think they're selecting for stuck on like the joe rogan thing again now uh the thing that i think they're selecting for and i and i could be wrong among other things among other things is generational iniquity and the idea that a spirit has legal access to your bloodline because of the iniquities of your ancestors or you know whatever you did in your own lifetime but typically these are children so they've not had uh an opportunity to transgress massively into freemasonry or witchcraft much trauma yet yes yes unless um which will happen if you have a bloodline with generational iniquity in it it is likely okay gate the gate thing when

00:29:53 - 00:29:59 | Speaker 3:

you're in elementary school and they say hey you get to be in this gifted thing that's what we're talking about yes they they're

00:30:00 - 00:30:14 | Speaker 6:

prying during the i got kicked out i went to one thing probably because you kept saying the same thing over and over again who was the chick there was a chick that was like the school president chick and i said something crazy to her and i got kicked out yeah but like my brother was in it my

00:30:14 - 00:30:25 | Speaker 4:

sister was in it you're saying that no grams they're looking for kids that are uh reacting to a certain thing and also i think compliant is a big is a big deal yeah they want you to just

00:30:25 - 00:30:35 | Speaker 5:

kind of like not really question what they're doing well i think if you if you have um there are probably ways to test if you are susceptible to disassociating agreeability is a big one yeah

00:30:35 - 00:30:46 | Speaker 4:

yeah and you're high you're low on disagree on on agreeability you're high you're low on agree and disagreeability well yeah you're you're right you're you're your traits on agreeability are

00:30:46 - 00:30:50 | Speaker 6:

probably zero yeah yeah we're what do you mean somebody you'll disagree just for the sake of

00:30:50 - 00:30:57 | Speaker 4:

disagree you're high in openness low uh low in agreeability um they're like four other ones

00:30:57 - 00:31:00 | Speaker 6:

sometimes i disagree with you not because i disagree with you because i want to hear you

00:31:00 - 00:31:49 | Speaker 5:

explain it so uh my tinfoil tiara actually says yeah you do uh blood type which i think is a key component and the reason i think it's a component is because there are certain genetic lines like if you think about a royal bloodline that are associated with a great deal of iniquity and therefore a spirit a power a principality has access to that bloodline um and i think there are other things like you're talking about agreeability the ability to disassociate there's a bunch of stuff going on there but i think one of the giveaways is the fact that they use a frequency test on you to see if you can hear that you know these hurts or those hurts i think that the mk ultra programs after they realize that spirits exist in frequency that's how you can communicate with them that's how you can tune one of the things to receive it wait they put

00:31:49 - 00:31:55 | Speaker 4:

headphones on you like every week yeah and they play uh like tones like and i go can you hear

00:31:55 - 00:31:59 | Speaker 6:

that shit a little bit don't you guys have a button and you say that like certain people

00:31:59 - 00:32:12 | Speaker 5:

with certain skin tones can't hear that oh yeah no that's a smoke alarm did you know there's a disproportionate amount of uh deaths by house fires in the black community i don't think we should get into this right now yeah we just made it our friend we have a new friend our friend okay

00:32:12 - 00:32:15 | Speaker 6:

but you're saying that you're saying like some people can hear certain tones and some people

00:32:15 - 00:33:32 | Speaker 5:

can't hear certain tones yeah so so um like xerox says bloodline sounds like serpent seed fake and gay well i'm talking about iniquity iniquity upon your bloodline that's incredibly biblical there's nothing that's iniquity upon your bloodline iniquity upon your household um so so the idea would be i think and this is totally theoretical but if these spirits do exist within a certain frequency range which seems to come up constantly in our research then they probably mapped out what exists on what frequency and if they have more of an interest in this entity or less of an interest in that entity they can then test can you hear this if you can hear this there's a high likelihood that if especially if there's a background done on you already well we know by this particular entity uh i don't know about if it's necessarily just swayed but like access to access to like a conduit for that entity that entity can freely interact with this individual more so than somebody who doesn't come from that bloodline who has all that iniquity because their parents were freemasons or their grandparents were occultists or their grandmothers were witches or some shit like that so i think that a great deal of what they're looking for probably isn't what they wouldn't call it iniquity but i think it's what we would identify as iniquity but so they

00:33:32 - 00:33:40 | Speaker 6:

The long story short is that they're, like, scouting in games. Yes, yeah, yeah. Like, the guy goes to watch a high school football game. He's a scout looking for, you know.

00:33:40 - 00:33:40 | Speaker 4:

Yeah.

00:33:41 - 00:33:47 | Speaker 6:

Same thing. They're trying to find people to bring into that program. Okay. Okay, got it. I didn't mean to take it off the rails. I just.

00:33:47 - 00:34:03 | Speaker 5:

Well, we're 30 minutes in. We should read some of these stories because that's the point of this show, isn't it? So, we have a picture of Leo Zagami. Let me take that down real quick. It's a great picture. Thank you, Leo, for that. We should turn that into something. And I'm going to start off. Is that what this is about? What?

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Growing up, summer's always felt like freedom to me. Long days outside, riding bikes with friends, and every child deserves to enjoy summer feeling happy and cared for. Hey, it's Kami for Feeding the Gulf Coast. Feeding the Gulf Coast wants you to know help is available through their Summer Meals Program. Children can receive free, nutritious meals all summer long at community locations throughout the Gulf Coast. Because every kid deserves the chance to simply be a kid this summer without hunger standing up. in the way find a summer meal site near you now at feeding the gulf coast.org that's just the the ambient the ambient music for the spooky it's getting the ambiance yeah um and i guess we'll start with who should we start with here we're gonna go to this more recent one because nancy's not been cleaning house so what's going on i'm not gonna say whose name this is because they might not want me to i'm gonna go ahead and read this i listened to your story on tinfoil hat well what what's the email what can i it's a red eye demon red eye demon red eye demon red eye demon i listened to your story on tinfoil hat and i've had a very similar experience starting around 2010 to 2014 i had recurring dreams where a demonic presence in the end i would be trying To call out for Jesus. That exactly. Once I could get Jesus's name out, I would wake up. Eventually, it peaked when I was in Puerto Rico. I was literally being drug off the edge of the bed. Jesus saved me then, too. I got out of bed and prayed and read my Bible out loud. I was terrified. Eventually, I decided I would no longer be afraid because I am saved and believe jesus has power over any darkness amen crushing good move dude uh once i made that switch in my mind it stopped happening around the same period i also saw shadow people well that's those are called puerto ricans uh during sleep deprivation training in the military oh they do that they they train you for sleep deprivation i know when they're just depending on the the squad squadron that you're in yeah is it spooky room now i know they drown don't they drown you in the marines i don't like that i'm the navy in the navy in the navy yeah they drown you in the navy huh you don't have to do skeptical matt face for that we're just talking

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they do yeah when they're doing like swim training for those guys yeah they keep you underwater man

00:37:00 - 00:37:44 | Speaker 1:

it's terrifying all right let's keep reading other people in training also had all kinds of hallucinations during that week oh yeah because you're all sleep deprived all that said more recently something crazy happened that i would value your opinion on i don't know that it's gonna be of value this past november i was out hunting far back on public land like this guy already and while walking out i could hear steps around me not animal steps but something walking around me i started to feel a sense of fear but again decided that nothing is more powerful than christ and i won't be intermediated and i know what you meant by that what does that mean what did he mean by that intimidated intimidated this guy but he also won't be fucking hey you're not

00:37:44 - 00:37:48 | Speaker 2:

going to intermediate me that is definitely definitely coming from tinfoil hat you ain't

00:37:48 - 00:37:53 | Speaker 1:

going to Puerto Rican that hunts though this is intriguing uh well he said he was in Puerto Rico

00:37:53 - 00:37:58 | Speaker 2:

yeah he could have just been on vacation maybe he was on uh they used to have military sites on

00:37:58 - 00:39:59 | Speaker 1:

there too lots of white people make that mistake of vacationing in Puerto Rico I've done that fair point it's not a okay um I turned with my flashlight to find whatever it was and there was nothing i kept walking and again i hear steps walking and i turned to face whatever it is while saying jesus out loud and nothing so this guy's gotten to the point where he's saying it out loud he's in the woods spinning around looking for something walking around him and he's yelling jesus carter in the mighty name of jesus what was it oh we can't play that yeah we get we get a lot to play that right i don't think so i think if we play it we're gonna get a copyright struck oh well what are you gonna do making a mockery of this guy's experience i get to the park i get to the parking lot and there is a dude in a white van which is odd because it took me a long time to get out of the woods he's asking questions about hunting um almost fishing for where exactly i was hunting i noticed a bright ball of light rise up near where i had been and i asked him if he sees that he says yeah that's weird no flashers or anything and it shoots off to the east and disappears that's pretty crazy actually that's kind of wild don't you guys think that's kind of wild fuck you guys i have a 30 minute drive home and i don't think anything of all that and while unloading my car i noticed orbs floating down the street from my house they're pinkish red and at first i think they are big balloons someone let go until they start moving weird to a v formation and so i pulled out my phone and i got a video which i I can send to you if you want mother fuck bro of course I want I know that but he's new he's new

00:40:00 - 00:40:11 | Speaker 5:

you're new around here huh you're new i want so i guess next time we do this i would like i have eight i'm new in town you ever seen that bit i have no idea what that is no

00:40:11 - 00:40:37 | Speaker 4:

so when he turned to say jesus name there's nothing there there's nothing there he leaves that spot then he walks back to the parking lot finds a guy in a rape van yeah and then he starts talking hey man where you hunting at he's just like cutting up with him yeah something i do he's like i was over there depending on where this happened at it could have been me actually to talk to him puerto rico um but i don't remember uh the orbs then he looks back he sees the thing

00:40:37 - 00:41:02 | Speaker 5:

go up in the air then when he gets home there's orbs now there's orbs now yes okay down the street from him i imagine it's dark out he kind of made it sound like a 30 minute drive home i don't know if it's dark out but yeah he sees these pinkish red orbs he thought they were balloons they get into a v formation he pulls his phone out got a video didn't send us the video and says but what's even more crazy is i go inside and as i was walking through my house i wake up on the

00:41:02 - 00:41:11 | Speaker 3:

floor what breaks it breaks the threshold of his house and he wakes up on his floor that used to

00:41:11 - 00:41:16 | Speaker 4:

happen to me on ghb and xanax dude i don't think this guy was on xanax i don't know maybe he was

00:41:16 - 00:42:33 | Speaker 5:

trying to relax but uh i was confused i had a couple of knots on my head and my neck was stiff from the fall my dog was jumping around me trying to figure out what happened i called my buddy to come and take me to the er er the er he lives over an hour away so i lay on my couch and decide i need nicotine out of my car based uh so i open my door and a huge shooting star goes across the sky so it is nighttime and he lives alone and he lives alone but he's got his dog you're never alone if you got your dog right uh and i look up i notice orbs are now floating treetop level over my house back in a cluster just drifting off i go inside and i lay the fuck back down and while i'm laying there i hear three taps on my window by my couch fuck not cool the couch he's laying on i think i'm just being paranoid but it happens again and my dog starts growling at the door confused by who could be outside and why they tapped on my window i open the door it's a fucking mistake dog and there's nothing there to shorten this up

00:42:33 - 00:42:38 | Speaker 3:

you don't have to do that is opening up the door like a invitation um oh they say that with the

00:42:38 - 00:42:45 | Speaker 4:

black-eyed kids they say whatever you do don't invite them in uh vampires all spiritual baddies

00:42:45 - 00:42:57 | Speaker 5:

right don't invite him in so you gotta invite him in but just opening a door it makes you wonder about the idea of a welcome mat huh like you have this permanent fucking welcome yeah to what no

00:42:57 - 00:43:03 | Speaker 4:

yeah i like the mats that are like go away the welcome one of those welcome question mark

00:43:03 - 00:43:10 | Speaker 5:

welcome question mark no welcome baby no you're not cannot come in i think i'm just being paranoid

00:43:10 - 00:43:14 | Speaker 3:

but it happens again i'm gonna get it i'm gonna get a doormat that says are you with jesus christ

00:43:14 - 00:43:28 | Speaker 4:

yeah question mark i think i'm gonna get a doormat that says go away so we're saying that with all of this story that's gone on so far there's no drugs involved uh i mean he has a lot of orbs and

00:43:28 - 00:43:34 | Speaker 5:

like stuff so woods and then there is this feeling of it well we'll unpack it after this okay it's

00:43:34 - 00:43:39 | Speaker 3:

like he got a passenger in the woods what are they called like a hitchhiker a hitchhiker but

00:43:39 - 00:43:43 | Speaker 5:

it starts off as almost feeling like a bigfoot story what do you mean a hitchhiker what do you

00:43:43 - 00:44:03 | Speaker 3:

mean a hitchhiker effect would be like uh you've been touched by the supernatural in some way and a lot of people mention it with bigfoot or cryptid sightings and they'd be like that was weird then they go to their house and it's like poltergeist they're seeing it everywhere not just that but like other things so orbs is a big one happy birthday america it's time to celebrate

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summer's always felt like freedom to me long days outside riding bikes with friends and every child deserves to enjoy summer feeling happy and cared for hey it's camie for feeding the gulf coast Feeding the Gulf Coast wants you to know help is available through their summer meals program. Children can receive free, nutritious meals all summer long at community locations throughout the Gulf Coast. Because every kid deserves the chance to simply be a kid this summer without hunger standing in the way. Find a summer meal site near you now at Feeding the Gulf Coast. the gulfcoast.org our guy colin who actually has been messaging me oh yeah how's colin doing he's

00:45:05 - 00:45:10 | Speaker 2:

not good not good oh bad what happened uh i'll just check some of the mushrooms and the running

00:45:10 - 00:45:31 | Speaker 1:

miles isn't staving off the demons i asked him if he wanted to come back and talk about it i said hey what's up man and he said no he doesn't want to talk about what's been going on that's fucking not good um but things have been going crazy for him and the last thing he said to me was this is fucking taxing yeah i believe that that's yeah that's a i don't like you know about colin

00:45:31 - 00:45:37 | Speaker 3:

i'd love to talk to him though even if he says i don't want to talk about it i feel like i could

00:45:37 - 00:45:46 | Speaker 2:

get him no but no he says he doesn't want to talk to you well colin oh i like that you made it blue for this intermission that's oh dude you are producing look at that that was nice my best

00:45:46 - 00:45:50 | Speaker 3:

yeah well it's in the s show it's not the red-headed stepchild bro that was good well

00:45:50 - 00:45:58 | Speaker 1:

you're the one that wants the lights colin is episode 15 of this show if you guys want to go back in our audio catalog and check that out i think it was called upgraded for war yes yeah

00:45:58 - 00:46:05 | Speaker 2:

fascinating episode fascinating conversation for war he's a friend of mine for uh i don't even know

00:46:05 - 00:46:28 | Speaker 1:

five years now so before we've done the show i know colin i liked it tower tower gang enjoyer as well right joyer yeah crazy person overall very fun uh not just dabbling in mushrooms doing them heavy oh working security one day it's a tap on his shoulder while he's working security and it says get out of this place and he leaves and it tells him to do mushrooms lay down and like we're

00:46:28 - 00:46:33 | Speaker 2:

gonna have a little meeting this is like a truncated version like boom boom boom it's much

00:46:33 - 00:46:38 | Speaker 1:

slower than this but yeah yeah over time but but he continues to do this continues to meet with the

00:46:38 - 00:46:44 | Speaker 3:

entity that is uh a specific entity that he's got access to with the mushrooms i think it was at

00:46:44 - 00:46:55 | Speaker 1:

first and then it became like he was meeting other things but there is one that kind of goes through this through line its name i forget oh anu anu was his name a blue a blue person well i don't

00:46:55 - 00:47:04 | Speaker 2:

know if that was the same guy but i know he named one of them or it revealed its name to him and it was called anu right which is you know so he's having these experiences he thinks that they're

00:47:04 - 00:47:09 | Speaker 1:

angels because they're actually giving him like good advice like he's gotten in shape his life is

00:47:09 - 00:47:14 | Speaker 3:

uh more organized they're even telling him to go to church okay this is ringing a bell now i think

00:47:14 - 00:48:01 | Speaker 1:

i have heard this story um but then it turns out like the part that we haven't discovered lately has been uh his new girlfriend because he was he was married this all happens as he's going through a divorce right which is always when this stuff happens there's like a trauma that happens usually divorce for men he has a new girlfriend now and his girlfriend is experiencing orbs and poltergeist activity and and it's crazy like one of the things he told me he he would have been sleeping or laying down and there are orbs above his bed possibly floating over him but now his girlfriend sees it and now they've been interacting with her and i think over the last since we've last spoken to him things have just gotten crazier yeah and which is interesting because there was

00:48:01 - 00:48:31 | Speaker 2:

a time where colin was looking at these experiences and these entities as as if they were like benign good and you know telling him to go to church telling him to read the bible i believe is what it was even saying and and we did that we did the episode with him and we had our reservations about like the nature of these things even he was like anu is weird anu is like the angel of death or something like that and then of course like anu naki it's like all this crap god of death in uh

00:48:31 - 00:48:38 | Speaker 1:

in egyptian mythology anu uh yeah anubis yeah that kind of like dog-headed thing so now he's

00:48:38 - 00:48:42 | Speaker 3:

reaching out he's saying hey man i know i said this thing was going good but yeah it's going bad

00:48:42 - 00:48:48 | Speaker 2:

i don't know i i don't know not in so many words it seems but i don't i don't know how to talk

00:48:48 - 00:49:33 | Speaker 1:

about it not on the show and i don't really want to talk about it in private why not um because that's an invitation oh i see what you're saying and i got a lot of shit going on fair so um i don't know i'm but but he's my buddy so i'm like i pray for him uh we'll see what see what happens you know but similar similar stories uh at least the orbs and such it's hard to tell somebody that a thing that has been benefiting you so much might be a malevolent entity and you might have invited it in multiple times you probably got to break ties with it i don't think he's ready to uh hear that so like i'm not going to be the one to be like yeah that this thing that's been the source

00:49:33 - 00:49:39 | Speaker 3:

of happiness for him and the source of good and he's like positive that this is the only good thing in my life

00:49:39 - 00:49:54 | Speaker 2:

it came to him when he was really low you know and then it did create a bunch of positive things in his life but yeah to go and say you know and I wonder what happens if you try to separate with that if you have created all these layers of connectivity

00:49:54 - 00:49:57 | Speaker 1:

yeah this kind of it's like yeah no I'm okay

00:49:57 - 00:49:58 | Speaker 2:

yeah bring some dirty

00:49:58 - 00:50:29 | Speaker 1:

we can talk about it All right.

00:50:00 - 00:50:07 | Speaker 2:

the show and and catalog it uh but yeah otherwise like a private invitation was like well you know

00:50:07 - 00:50:13 | Speaker 3:

i don't know i don't know yeah it's a it's a rough one it's a rough one anyway back to the story

00:50:13 - 00:50:29 | Speaker 1:

all right can i just ask one thing real quick absolutely not i mean it's a little off the rails but it's in regards to everything that's happening right now but um what's everything that's happening so mirrors are potentially portals sure that's i've heard that a lot of times what does that mean like what are you uh i don't know reflection that somehow that's a

00:50:29 - 00:50:34 | Speaker 3:

portals somewhere not inherently but i know that uh mirrors and and uh scrying mirrors and things

00:50:34 - 00:50:47 | Speaker 1:

like that are used uh hyper polished um obsidian glass wait so like in a magic kingdom movie where they say mirror mirror on the wall like that type of thing so like a mirror was used in like

00:50:47 - 00:51:04 | Speaker 2:

divination magic okay well think about a mirror too you look into it and it shows you yourself but everything is reversed so like the the lettering on your chest would be the opposite way in a way it's you are looking into a weird dimension it's like this yeah i've seen some

00:51:04 - 00:51:09 | Speaker 3:

shit in a mirror once and i never did it again but i think it's the foundation for that bloody

00:51:09 - 00:52:04 | Speaker 1:

mary shit you know what's weird go ahead when i was in the rehab remember i told you they had us doing like tarot cards and stuff one of the rehab i had to live in they used to make us do mirror time like look in the mirror and what debrief on yourself yeah i forget the context no okay that but the context was like looking in the mirror and like uh yeah like coming to terms with yourself yeah but that was probably how that feel was it sketchy was it weird no i just was like you need to get your shit together dude like every time i would do the mirror time i'd be like what happened to you man like that's what i would be like i'd look in the mirror and be like what happened to you bro like you were just like having a good old time and life was great and then like look at you now dude well not that time i was like you got to get off the meth dude oh sure and then i would see the eyes and i always knew there was like something that like the real me like wasn't this at that time i remember thinking oh yeah you ever do this and like look at your

00:52:04 - 00:53:28 | Speaker 3:

eyeball and then you're like oh shit i'm not this meat machine because it's like weird as soon as you look at your eyeball and it's it's no longer framed by your eyelids and it's just this exposed orb with flesh around it you're like oh this is literally like just a meat sack and i'm not this thing i'm something else inside of it i had that kind of just a meat sack uh revelation when i was a kid but um yeah i did a thing once where i had a candle and i and it was maybe it was actually a nightlight in the bathroom whatever it was it was a small light amber colored light lights off in the bathroom staring at myself in the mirror and what happens is like an optical illusion you ever see like the circle with the point in the center if you stare at the point the circle starts to disappear so if you do unbreak the eye contact with yourself the same optical illusion takes place your facial features start to disappear until you're basically a blank canvas stay there long enough and they get replaced and it is fucking terrifying looking because you're looking into the mirror and proportionately another face has appeared and it is uh well at least for me was not a cool looking one it was specifically very spooky and i never did that shit again but i think that's like at the root of the bloody mary thing you know you're like look at the mirror and say bloody mary and then some spooky shit happens i think that's it like it's an it's the same function as that optical illusion but what comes after all the facial features melt away is a super

00:53:28 - 00:53:49 | Speaker 2:

unsettling i was watching a little bit i might watch more of the dr strange movie okay and that's like has to do with magic and mirrors the mirror dimension yeah he has a mirror dimension in the second one it's specifically it's interesting but i wasn't paying attention as much i'm gonna re-watch it was like he's doing magic and then he goes to like he's in opposition to somebody who's

00:53:49 - 00:53:59 | Speaker 1:

doing witchcraft yeah the red chick here that watched it said she just got up and walked out in the movie theater she said it's just straight a cult oh yeah it is she was like i didn't even

00:53:59 - 00:54:03 | Speaker 2:

finish it i think that's why i i like uh i turned it off after a while i was like this is just like

00:54:03 - 00:54:16 | Speaker 1:

there's a lot going on some of those things suck you in with the narrative and it's like under the pure all things are pure and they can do that for a minute and then once they got you then they go dark like this last avatar movie is like we couldn't watch that i think if you're watching

00:54:16 - 00:54:20 | Speaker 3:

something and you go like you get a stirring in your spirit and you're not sure what you're looking

00:54:20 - 00:54:33 | Speaker 2:

at that it's time to check out um that's that was i think that's why i checked out because at some points i was like what are they like i understand what they're showing me but then there's a ton of symbolism yeah and i'm like i'm just not i'm not watching this the right way so i'm just

00:54:33 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 3:

gonna watch i watch it and i go like oh you fuck you mother i see what you're okay that's how i watch everything like a psychopath my wife hates it because we can't enjoy anything um all right so let's get back to this story he goes on we're we're in the house um he's passed out he woke up he called his homie come take me to the hospital it's a long way for him to come back steps out he sees these orbs goes back in lays down there's knocking on his on his window

00:55:00 - 00:55:12 | Speaker 5:

right by his sofa that he's laying on this is the second round of knocking i believe um so he says that he thinks he's just losing his shit hanging out at the pool is great

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gulf coast.org and he goes to lay back on the couch while he's laying there he hears three taps okay um i think i'm just being paranoid but it happens again so that's more knocks on the on the window his dog starts growling at the door um okay he goes to shorten this up three to four months period after passing out or nearly passing out every day every day diagnosed with heart failure and something is messed up with the electrical system in my heart my six-year-old tells me one day dad I prayed you would stop passing out last night while giving me a hug and I haven't passed out since and my heart function is no longer in heart failure diagnosis I'm a normal dude no drugs barely alcohol and just a dad to a three-year-old and a six-year-old anyway that's the cliff notes i have the videos that kind of back up my claims or at least so something weird in the sky also was dealing with a breakup we just said divorce uh during that period so there was a lot of emotions during this time uh which i think escalated this and previous experiences thank you wow that got crazy man so i've heard stuff like this in particular in the woods um what seems to almost be in this case a bigfoot encounter turns into something that's much more alien and then of course there's the presence of the weird guy in the van who seems to be trying to figure out where exactly he was they both see this orb rise up out of the woods together um and then it follows him home more or less right that's what it seems like and he gets hit with what is effectively heart failure his dog hears the knocking on the windows and he's got real tangible physical ailments that are left in the wake of this and his six-year-old's prayer is what fixes it for him i mean that's a crazy story yeah this

00:58:35 - 00:58:57 | Speaker 2:

goes this one i think what i'm gonna start doing is like i'm gonna i just emailed this guy back i'm gonna give him a i'll give him like a free month or however long yeah yeah get him in the community right get him in the in the patreon yeah to talk to people um because by the time they watch this who knows how long it'll be sure that's a crazy one what do you think about that

00:58:57 - 00:59:43 | Speaker 3:

matt i feel bad to talk about it what do you mean you feel bad to talk about it i just feel like i know these kind of stories they always include methamphetamine or like no he says he goes no drugs no drugs then i yeah i don't know it's like if somebody told me that like if he was here right now like i don't know like the stuff on you know uh the internet is weird like emails even like if somebody was standing right here talking to me telling me that story i'd be like okay meth but that's what i'm saying if he says it's not that then okay i just don't know anything about that like a story like that all i know is like i know people like that i know stories like that there's always like some kind of crazy drug use involved so if there's no drug use involved and that type of stuff is happening i'm like i i don't know i don't know what to make of that this is something

00:59:43 - 00:59:53 | Speaker 5:

that goes right into the pattern recognition folder like i've heard stories like this out in the woods footsteps around you they feel like they're around you um that was weird for me

00:59:53 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 3:

too because like how do you know it's not an animal i know he said it wasn't an animal because like there's a weird noise, like a deer, you know.

01:00:00 - 01:00:18 | Speaker 1:

a four-footed animal can move at a different pace to where it does sound like yeah where it's stepping with two at a time kind of not two feet it's four you know but you assume it's you're like wow it really sounds like a person but then you see a deer you know so i i don't know i don't know but that's such a small part of the story there's so many other things that came along with

01:00:18 - 01:00:31 | Speaker 3:

it i mean this is i think that's just what he assumes you know so he's just giving us his assumption of possibly what happened so it could be something else there could be other things that he did he's dabbling like you said maybe maybe drugs maybe just and what's the hitchhiker thing

01:00:31 - 01:00:38 | Speaker 1:

that you said uh the guy in the van like attached to him somehow or something in the woods the

01:00:38 - 01:01:02 | Speaker 3:

reason i told you the colin story was that colin has this thing on him and i don't know where he got that but his time and his uh proximity to his girlfriend she's got this on her and she's experiencing this and i even think he goes on to say that his parents are experiencing weird stuff that's the hitchhiker effect where it's like it follows you yeah it's touched you in some form or fashion then follows you to where you're at so we're just calling it a demon it's just a

01:01:02 - 01:01:07 | Speaker 1:

demon it's like demonic entity starts with everybody in your sphere if yeah but when you're

01:01:07 - 01:01:18 | Speaker 3:

talking about when you're talking about uh cryptids the people in the cryptic community like to say hitchhiker effect we would say yeah demonic entanglement uh faceless whatever faceless is

01:01:18 - 01:02:38 | Speaker 2:

like the definition of hitchhiker effect where he encounters something that you might describe as like a rake which is a cryptid skinwalker uh in a tunnel beneath the the ground in california the deserts of california and it follows him to the extent that uh it tears his dog in half that night and then the other guy he was with who also saw it and was touched by it um and left like this mark on the back of his neck his life just goes to shit afterwards like he's drug addicted getting his ass be homeless in and out of prison and um so it left something attached to him you know attached attached to him it's a hitchhiker effect and apparently the explanation for the dog is that this thing couldn't attach itself to our homie faceless because he had some sort of protection and you know faceless believes in jesus christ like you know he's a crazy dude but if you ask him about his ideas like yeah he's you know he believes in the bible he believes in jesus and so it went for something that he cared about which is his dog that was about the best it could do and in a place where only coyotes exist something corkscrewed his dog ripped it in half through one half somewhere else and another half like a dis you know a decent distance away

01:02:38 - 01:03:01 | Speaker 1:

um on his lawn you see like uh demonic effects even in families if you've ever been around a family where like one person in the family says like oh my stomach hurts and then everybody oh my stomach's been off lately oh yeah i haven't been feeling good and you see like this kind of domino effect where it does come in with like one person but then everybody's like on board with it

01:03:01 - 01:03:05 | Speaker 2:

and everybody's sick all the time yeah yeah well it's coming into agreement right yeah that's

01:03:05 - 01:03:09 | Speaker 1:

what you would call that all the time you know yeah coming into agreement with those spirits

01:03:09 - 01:04:34 | Speaker 3:

that's what's happening with my my own house i told you about yeah like uh one of my owns had poltergeist stuff in new york and my other one has poltergeist stuff that originated in puerto rico interestingly enough and now is in florida and they moved together over there uh by orlando they live in the same house yeah yeah because it's like a rather close to you complicated situation where uh my uncle had brought a house in new york he passed my grandmother passed she sort of inherited it so it goes to the family so like let's both live in it yeah the family sold it instead of anybody taking the money uh they kind of like gave it to her to buy another house and she's bought this house in florida so it's kind of like family's house but like nobody wants it so she lives there and uh my aunt that was in new york wanted to get out of new york and it's a big house so they they've lived they moved in together but they're bringing like you're a specific set of demons and you're a specific set of demons yeah that's why that's why i was actually not sure if i can come today because one's in the hospital the other one's in just bad shape in general so uh yeah yeah my mom was gonna go visit that one that was in the hospital it's just it's but it's it's one of these things of like who's hit who's hitchhiker is hitchhiking on who yeah yeah i don't know um yeah it's a bad situation but yeah i mean that's

01:04:34 - 01:05:16 | Speaker 2:

how it seems to be and i guess that's a form of iniquity too right i mean it attaches to more than one person and you know i don't know exactly how it works but we have another one here from uh juan if you want to read this uh top it's right beneath that one a life of supernatural things and dumb decisions hey everybody lady luck here and we're celebrating america's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a

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01:05:55 - 01:06:08 | Speaker 4:

and uh i just want to say as a little caveat because they sent us a follow-up email he goes and i forgot to mention i was in the gate program oh and also and also was in the gate program so there you go that's that that's that whole thing but um yeah how long has the

01:06:08 - 01:06:13 | Speaker 5:

gate thing been a thing i never heard you talk about gate uh or maybe you did i just didn't

01:06:13 - 01:06:32 | Speaker 4:

maybe i always thought it was like we talk about we talk about mk ultra targeting children in the school it's the gate program so maybe we haven't been specific of like the the details and the names but that's what that is interesting yeah your kids are probably in it bella bella seems like somebody that would be a good candidate for that i'm not doing that i don't know if they still

01:06:32 - 01:06:36 | Speaker 5:

do that do they still do gate i don't know if the charter school did i don't remember it it's

01:06:36 - 01:06:41 | Speaker 4:

called something different but it's like yeah if we have like uh oh gosh what's it called

01:06:41 - 01:06:51 | Speaker 5:

it's not called gate but it's called like um i don't know it's something that all the smart kids are in honor society maybe like whatever like no i don't think it's the honor role like i said by

01:06:51 - 01:08:57 | Speaker 4:

the time i was in it in new york city the iteration was uh sigma but it's the same shit it's it's the same program just named different and they're doing the same thing simulacra said uh charter school is only gate like the charter school is the gate program they're taking these boomers kids all right let's read this one all right love the show thank you i like it too i think it's all right uh have been listening since you guys started really appreciate everything you do please don't use my name okay but we only said one we didn't use the full name one one is also not true one ayala jose uh if you choose to read this on the show uh just refer to me as exile okay well too late for that exile my bad one uh i intentionally didn't use any names in this okay well i mean come on man what the fuck bro let's read another one no What a banger. Good job. I've been Christian nearly my entire life. My mom was raised Catholic, and she would leave the Catholic Church after witnessing the corruption of it and its power structure in Puerto Rico. What is going on with these Puerto Ricans? A lot of trash. A lot of trash in the chat. A lot of these Puerto Ricans. Her mother practiced witchcraft. Not a surprise. Red tarot cards. Not a surprise. As many other people on the island do. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. she was abusive to my mom as was her stepfather this naturally drove uh my mom to find the opposite of what they practiced which to her was catholicism close it could seem like that right on its face but i mean if you go in there and you really get a strong message about christ and that becomes your orientation you know yeah it's it's a slippery one but i don't i mean catholicism i think shout out emily i think is is based on this sort of inversion and it's meant to i think it's meant to get people to go from witchcraft to catholicism but realistically witchcraft to fancy witchcraft yeah you're just doing the same shit uh she would be devout for decades of her life going to mass every day until she witnessed the santeros taking part

01:08:57 - 01:09:03 | Speaker 5:

in mass yeah what just happened with his spanish accent santeros you can't say shit uh

01:09:03 - 01:09:14 | Speaker 4:

Santeros is like, it's the priest that practiced santería, witchcraft. Yeah, you're doing the accent. You have to do the accent. It's a Spanish word. What are you going to say? I don't practice santería.

01:09:14 - 01:09:19 | Speaker 5:

Wait, so wait, when you say carne asada, do you do that too? Carne asada. I don't eat Mexican food. Yeah, he never says that.

01:09:20 - 01:09:42 | Speaker 4:

I do that when I go, oh, people who practice Santa Muerte. Yeah, if I go to a Spanish store, like, let me get that arroz con gandulas. No, it's like, give me the rice and beans. Give me the rice and beans. We're in America. uh so she she witnessed them taking a part in mass there was some sort of ritual where they would cut open the head of someone in the ceremony and slide a plate into the wound what the wait

01:09:42 - 01:10:00 | Speaker 5:

wait wait wait i promise i'm paying attention but we're saying that the mom witnessed this at like a catholic mass i'm not saying that juan is saying no exile is saying that at a catholic mass witnessed that she goes to i'll reread it oh shit is that it

01:10:00 - 01:10:19 | Speaker 2:

exile hey nancy hi nancy what are you doing here nancy's here that's not nancy hi nance hello what hi she's so sneaky snuck in through the side door huh we should we do like a go fund me for nancy i know she's having car troubles no no i'm having car troubles troubles no laney's

01:10:19 - 01:10:25 | Speaker 3:

good nancy's car is oh you're you're uh other catalytic converter right somebody's already

01:10:25 - 01:10:30 | Speaker 2:

paid for it's already paid for did somebody come in and hacksaw it out i didn't like how she was

01:10:30 - 01:10:38 | Speaker 1:

like i'm fine hmm all right mancy thank you mysterious chap so wait exile is in the chat

01:10:38 - 01:10:43 | Speaker 2:

he doesn't like well i don't know if that's actually exile or somebody's just using his

01:10:43 - 01:10:48 | Speaker 3:

name it is exiled she said she she witnessed it at catholic church witnessed that sent

01:10:48 - 01:10:56 | Speaker 4:

Santeria. Santeria. What the hell did you just say? I don't know. So, and what exactly? Cut something and put the plate?

01:10:57 - 01:11:03 | Speaker 3:

It's a ritual where they cut open the head of someone in the ceremony and slide a plate into the wound. Hell yeah. Okay, wait.

01:11:04 - 01:11:11 | Speaker 4:

Someone makes it sound like it's a human. Yeah, dog. They're cutting a human open and sliding a plate into the wound. That's what they said, yeah. Into the wound.

01:11:11 - 01:11:13 | Speaker 3:

I guess this is known as trepanation.

01:11:13 - 01:11:18 | Speaker 2:

How big is the plate, exile? Maybe it's the size of a trepanation? Okay, trepa.

01:11:18 - 01:11:28 | Speaker 3:

trepanation uh a way to put something into the skull that allows the evil spirits to leave what oh so it's like this is like a form of an exorcism so this isn't in the church trepanation

01:11:28 - 01:11:41 | Speaker 2:

also known as uh trepanning or something else a surgical procedure which a circular hole was intentionally drilled scraped or cut into the human skull to expose the underlying dura mater

01:11:41 - 01:11:58 | Speaker 4:

is this kind of like uh yeah the day back to the lobotomies no it's like the elon musk but they put the thing in the skull so his thing is nothing new like this is nothing it's a lobotomy a lobotomy so strange bro it's not well i'm sure using the bible they have passages okay so that

01:11:58 - 01:12:23 | Speaker 2:

that's a reasonable thing to do they were doing lobotomies to get gay people to be straight many historians and anthropologists believe that the procedure was performed to release perceived evil spirits or demonic forces causing mental illness or physical ailments okay so i guess this church adopted that and look if you have a church and it's not super grounded in in christ it's not super grounded in the bible all kinds of insane things can slip in right it can do this as

01:12:23 - 01:12:37 | Speaker 3:

well i know this is an actual medical medical procedure to relieve pressure from his so like if you have we're doing that tomorrow yeah and your brain is expanding like let's say your brain is swelling his brain is expanding they actually would need to do that yeah but these guys are doing it for some other shit and putting a

01:12:37 - 01:12:41 | Speaker 4:

plate in there. So the mom sees it at Catholic Church and she's like, no.

01:12:41 - 01:12:49 | Speaker 3:

Let's see. She knew in her heart that this made no sense. Okay. There's your sign. Based. It's like, hold on a second.

01:12:50 - 01:13:00 | Speaker 2:

You're like, what? They do what? They cut his head open? They take the donation plate and then they slide it into his fucking head. Fill it up with coins and slide it in. I love the cheerful giver.

01:13:02 - 01:13:05 | Speaker 4:

She's in the crowd and she's like, no bueno. No bueno.

01:13:05 - 01:13:56 | Speaker 3:

yeah she's out um so she left the catholic church in puerto rico and would bounce around a different protestant churches she would meet my father in the air force they'd get married and when they got pregnant with me would leave the island because my dad said this is no place to raise a child he's right yo base dad they don't even have no i mean puerto rico is a really sad it's a trash floating trash no it's nice it's a nice visit but like their schools are closed they're closing them down because there's nobody raising kids there anymore that's how like bad economically it is get out it's like there's no yeah there's no future there for people it's sad uh my father was an atheist but my mom would insist on taking me to church she was a piano teacher she'd lead choir and worship at different protestant churches and work as a music teacher as well so we attended the assemblies of god church that's the type

01:13:56 - 01:14:05 | Speaker 2:

of church that we go to oh by the way the they hit me up they came to me oh they did yeah so and they they took my number down and they're trying to get me to get involved what happened

01:14:05 - 01:14:16 | Speaker 4:

oh put you in like one of the groups to start doing so that's how they get you to stay at church probably get you get you active in like one of the departments uh-huh and luckily you

01:14:16 - 01:14:21 | Speaker 3:

don't like that i i mean well what what do you want you to do uh he's like we need we need people

01:14:21 - 01:14:29 | Speaker 4:

around here yeah he said choir i said no i'd come for that i'd go back to the 501c3 system

01:14:29 - 01:14:45 | Speaker 2:

if he was in the choir 100 i would go watch that i said look i don't know i could do like you need me to move some boxes around or some shit like i'll do fucking labor i don't know what you what you need and he's like oh well i mean always sort it and then he's like maybe you could narrate for

01:14:45 - 01:14:59 | Speaker 3:

us i'm like narrate that's uh i fucking know he shouldn't have done that shouldn't have done that bro but it is a technique it's a technique to get people to stay you get invested not just invested but it's like you're contributing to a thing. I understand.

01:15:00 - 01:15:08 | Speaker 5:

what it is but it's like it's misguided if you don't i'll tell you what though like is there a calling for this guy to do this or are you just giving just coming up to me and taking my fucking

01:15:08 - 01:16:43 | Speaker 6:

phone number and the the problem was so that that sunday was an important message i do think that you know god has this habit of using that church that do be silly um to say important things to both me and you and i do believe he was talking directly to you i was sitting there going he's talking to top and um but i knew i knew you oh yeah dude 100 but he did it in a real big gay way bro he did it in a real big gay way and i was like i've never heard anybody you turn the story of joseph into such a uh uninteresting thing and i've also like immediately as soon as the band stopped singing it was like church can you say uh-oh he made us say uh-oh no you don't say that He said, Church, can you say, uh-oh? I said, mother... Okay, like, is this the episode of Blue's Clues? Like, he's asking you, like, do you see a clue? And we're going, it's behind you, Pastor Mark! It's behind you! Like, dude, it was so frustrating. And he did it so much. Like, Church, can you say Avengers? He was making us just do the goofiest shit. He made us do it again. The one minute of get the fuck up and touch somebody. I sat down. I was like, no, I'm not fucking doing it, dude. And it was so brutal. And I will say, outside of whatever he's doing... that it was an important message it was you know it was uh timely and and useful and and like you know applicable to our lives and the situation and all that fantastic thank you god but man oh man i was like i was beginning to boil over with rage uh at the way that he cannot that must have been

01:16:43 - 01:16:46 | Speaker 4:

after you sent me the picture of top playing guitar i did i sent him a picture of you playing

01:16:46 - 01:17:27 | Speaker 6:

the band came off and then he was like church can you say oh can you say whoopsie church but fuck you and then he did this other thing um i forgot what it was but but all of it feels like you're talking to children and i get it like dude used to be a youth pastor and that's fine but when are you going to switch over what are you going to switch over and just stop doing that stop talking because what you're doing is you're taking the most badass shit in the world the word of god the story of the bible every the the the framework for the realm that we live in and you're turning it into the cringiest shit i've ever heard to the point where there's two

01:17:27 - 01:17:31 | Speaker 4:

questions like people just don't believe it because of that and it's like thank god i'm doing

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01:18:35 - 01:19:26 | Speaker 5:

number one um damn these motherfuckers called me a youth pastor they uh so i i said that i forgot i was talking to my dad or my wife or my wife nope that's not that's muted that's fine my wife my wife um and they were saying that they're like yeah well he was a youth pastor and i was like yeah but you know what like today's a great example i just did straight bible and then i'm gonna go uh 20 minutes later into nds is a very different animal i'm gonna talk to the people a little differently than I talk to than I talk on Straight Bible, because we're doing a different thing. Because on Straight Bible, you didn't say anything for 20 minutes. Which is very funny. It's very rude. They're like, is Top even here? You're out of it today. Is it conspiracy? No, no, no. But obviously, when I'm talking on Straight Bible, we're doing a different thing. NDS is more entertainment, so I'm doing a different thing. Okay, turn it off, turn it on. Okay. Turn it off, turn it on.

01:19:26 - 01:19:30 | Speaker 6:

What's that got to do with the guy? No excuses. It's an ability. You just turn it off and you turn it on. And everyone has it.

01:19:30 - 01:19:34 | Speaker 5:

Now, the second question is like, okay, because I don't think that he doesn't have that. That's not a question.

01:19:34 - 01:19:43 | Speaker 4:

that's like an observation but it's like he that's also he wants to do that do what he wants like he wants to turn on and off he thinks it's very cool we're dealing with look at your neighbor

01:19:43 - 01:20:00 | Speaker 5:

and say blah blah blah bro look at your neighbor and say fucking cool we're dealing with the thing again and we're dealing with it right here where are they even aware of it has somebody brought this to their attention and said it boldly or is it because they are timothy alvarino nobody has You said you're dressed

01:20:00 - 01:20:03 | Speaker 3:

like indiana jones so you don't want to say it to him because you like your position

01:20:03 - 01:20:07 | Speaker 1:

it doesn't fucking bother me no it doesn't it doesn't bother what why are we talking about it

01:20:07 - 01:20:21 | Speaker 3:

it bothers me it drives me fucking insane it doesn't bother you when he says turn to your neighbor and say blah blah blah bro when he said when he said church can you say uh-oh i just don't do it you're already i can see by your reaction you don't like it no but okay so i don't like it

01:20:21 - 01:20:28 | Speaker 1:

you're not gonna say something to him i don't like it i don't like it to the not to the point where i'm like i need to go and talk to this guy you know what i mean it's got to be like for me

01:20:28 - 01:20:33 | Speaker 3:

how far does it have to go before you're like hey bro this is like wanker stuff what what i what i

01:20:33 - 01:20:44 | Speaker 1:

see it as is it's a technique and then i look around again like i i've i've gone back and forth to this but i look around and i'm like everybody likes this yeah then i'm like who am i to be like

01:20:44 - 01:20:53 | Speaker 3:

i don't like this it is like yeah it's a room full of a hundred plus 80 year olds that really like it but if he's the leader you don't think he's leading into a thing that people shouldn't

01:20:53 - 01:22:14 | Speaker 1:

really like i don't know who am i to say what people again this is not my this is not my thing i'm not doing this thing i am here i'm here i like research so that when you open your church you're gonna do things there oh my god i'm in church i go to church because i'm able to turn to your neighbor and slap their ass he did say turn to your neighbor and say like uh he said something crazy i was like turn to your neighbor and say you said you didn't mind it i'm not gonna do that that's but here's the thing though i'm in i'm in church because i get to worship and i get to worship the way i want this is like like yeah we're you're participating worship you're standing there i get to go there and play this and i find value in that and then i get i get to go and sit in the pew and there was a message no matter how many uh turn to your neighbor was i'm like that was still kind of crazy yeah the message was uh forgiveness yeah as a matter of fact he read uh what was it matthew 6 yeah 13 no it's different when it's not me saying it i was i was actually no no i just well when we're when we're reading it and you're opening it i'm i'm literally just listening again when he was talking about joseph and there's no way there's no fucking way that out of 18 weeks that we've been doing the the sermon on the mount that this week is the week that you're following up two days after this i'm like yeah i heard it or i got it i heard i i get it so when i'm when i'm quiet during the during that point in the show it's just because i'm just like this is crazy like i'll take it any way i can get it if it takes the five

01:22:14 - 01:22:35 | Speaker 3:

for you to get the message the first time we ever did a show i think i was like you're like yeah i don't forgive people and i was like top that's like the most dangerous thing in the universe you have to forgive the timing was crazy i'm not forgiving people the timing was crazy i met you so if you get it from the 501c3 amen it wasn't i'll tell you what though it's it's fucking insane

01:22:35 - 01:22:51 | Speaker 2:

how god speaks like like this um creator of the universe that you can't see and you don't engage with like we're engaging right now speaks and when he speaks it's fucking like like i don't

01:22:51 - 01:23:06 | Speaker 1:

remember when i sent this but this was over the weekend probably oh yeah yeah yeah perfect in the blue you could read that was probably saturday right before read it out loud read it can you read it out loud no okay don't read it out read it out read the blue well no it's not stupid i'm

01:23:06 - 01:23:10 | Speaker 3:

going to address clint one more time on monday i'd like a clip made of it yeah talking about

01:23:10 - 01:23:25 | Speaker 2:

talking about laney and i see this and i just go like ah man and that's what day saturday saturday it's or maybe like before or after the beach i don't even remember and then the next day the sermon is all about forgiveness and what that really looks like it goes into the story of

01:23:25 - 01:23:30 | Speaker 1:

joseph and his brothers and all this shit and he reads from matthew 6 13 as well and i go

01:23:30 - 01:23:39 | Speaker 2:

and then it's really funny because god's like okay yeah but i'm gonna use this gay dude to fucking i'll take it say some shit to you right now i'll take it that's crazy well

01:23:39 - 01:24:28 | Speaker 3:

that's why like you're reading a book. Say you're reading a book by G. Campbell Morgan. Then you come across that passage in scripture. Oh dude, You're like, G. Campbell Morgan was just talking about this. Then somebody brings up that topic at your job. Then like, then you hear something on the radio. Okay. Okay. I get it. These things happen. And that's why it's like, yeah, like the creator of the universe, he finds ways to get our attention about stuff. Yeah. That's why it's a little disheartening when some people say the only way God speaks to you is through the Bible. Like, no. no, no, no, Like, like God, the number one way god speaks to me is through the bible absolutely but there's absolutely other scenarios where i'm reading the bible i come across the passage i go huh wonder what to think about that then i'm reading derrick prince or i'm reading andrew murray or i'm reading watching my knee and they bring up that passage i'm like oh dang then a human brings it up to me in real life in the coffee shop they bring it insane i say okay god you want to talk to me about this

01:24:28 - 01:24:33 | Speaker 2:

what's up yeah i mean that's basically what happened so i'm not going to stop going because

01:24:33 - 01:24:59 | Speaker 1:

that's too powerful isn't that crazy i'm just saying like they're and matt says the same thing thing too he's like 51c3 this and that i was like yeah but like that i don't know what to tell you that that did just happen and then it's it's confirmed like a number of times and then of course what are the odds just what are the odds that we're going to go and read that's like the specific scripture the focus verse it's insane of today's message of today's straight bible it's absolutely not insane it's just like yeah all right it's insane until you understand

01:25:00 - 01:25:36 | Speaker 4:

what's happening if you don't understand what's happening you go like that's fucking super crazy but i'm not gonna say and i'm not gonna turn to my neighbor yeah i'm not singing in the choir i'm not narrating shit he's like oh you just read the thing that we're presenting on the thing you could read it to people fuck them no why no you have plenty of people on this stage who know how to read i i barely know how to read you don't fucking need me to go but it's so crazy because he like cornered me and he's like hey i thought i'd take the initiative in getting your phone number and i was like what he's like yeah pastor uh mark tried to call you and i was like yeah i mean i'll give you the same phone number you already have um but he's giving him the phone number i go

01:25:36 - 01:25:57 | Speaker 5:

i go he's not gonna pick that up i'm not picking that up bro that's crazy as fuck i mean aaron's cool aaron's a cool guy i think just uh they're trying to they're trying to do their best yes they are it's not what i don't think that's not how you reach david that's not how you reach a lot of people. Maybe a young kid be like, I'm going to give this young kid some experience.

01:25:57 - 01:25:59 | Speaker 4:

Yeah, you get a homeboy like that.

01:26:00 - 01:26:12 | Speaker 5:

Somebody else, yeah, but it's just like a different tool for a different guy. Now, if I approach Dave and I was like, we're opening up a podcast division in this church and we'd like you to be a participant in it. He'd be like, now you're speaking his language.

01:26:12 - 01:26:32 | Speaker 4:

Yeah, but even still, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do that because I could never do what I want to do. And I can't do... What do you want to do? But I can't do that. No, I can't do that in church. No more dark wars. Come on, man. It's a funny name. All right, so let's continue reading this. Where are we at here? I don't even remember anymore.

01:26:35 - 01:27:57 | Speaker 5:

My father would thankfully later come to Christ before he died. Sorry, man. Arguing that if all these Eastern religions agree that Jesus is a way, but Christ says he is the way, then Christ is the right answer. I would always watch Christian TV shows as a kid, as I wasn't allowed to watch mainstream cartoons. and when I was five, I would go to my mom after watching one of them and tell her that I wanted to give my heart to Jesus. She was thrilled. I'd get baptized in a Pentecostal church a few weeks later. We attended revivals all the time at a variety of these Pentecostal churches. One summer, my father was removing this heinous carpet from our house in the hopes that there would be hardwood below it. There was. He was happy about that. It took him a few days to remove all the carpet, and there were lines of carpet nails on the edges of the hallways. I would be running around like an insane person, jumping off walls, as I always did. I know, I got a five-year-old. I don't like where this is going. And I'd run my right foot onto one of these rows of carpet nails. My mom would clean me up, take me to the ER. ER! And they would say no stitches because it was just a bunch of punctures. I'd go with her to a revival that night. as she wanted to go and some interesting things happened people were running up and down the aisles of the church they had the joy jumps oh boy i know it gets weird it gets me to do the joy

01:27:57 - 01:28:01 | Speaker 4:

jumps bro you do the joy jumps matt when you get you jump for joy you get a little bit you know

01:28:01 - 01:28:18 | Speaker 5:

you get hit with the spurt stop i don't even like i don't like that when they say come to the front he said come to the front if this message is for you no and i made that mistake day one remember that i don't remember my very first day in that church but i wouldn't tell you not to do something I didn't know what he was saying. What an immature baby. I didn't know, bro.

01:28:18 - 01:29:04 | Speaker 4:

I had no idea. You didn't know the rules. I had never been to church like that. Like, I had been to church when I was a child for, you know, funerals or whatever. I had never been to a church like that. But they did, like, I guess what is known as an altar call. And it was just this idea, like, if you are unsure that you're right with the Lord and you want, you know, you want to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, like, definitively. And I'm, for the first time when you hear that, I'm thinking, like, yeah, absolutely, dude. Like, yeah, that crushes. Does that make sense? like maybe i've not uh gone about it the right way i'm new to all this like yeah yeah i want to definitively make sure and he goes put your hands up and everybody's got their eyes closed so i'm like fuck yeah put my hands in the air waving like i just don't care and i got my hand in the air and he goes okay and so after it's done he goes uh if you put your hands up uh please

01:29:04 - 01:29:29 | Speaker 2:

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01:30:37 - 01:30:48 | Speaker 2:

lowering your home touching his carpet all of those make sense i don't know but you had to get to him to get healed they had to get the man to him to get well this is the idea to get up there

01:30:48 - 01:31:11 | Speaker 1:

and get prayed over yeah all that is is like but but realistically jesus isn't jesus isn't here physical like he's not like a person walking through the street right now but we still have to get to him so what's the action and is the action i thought about this too is the action like when he goes well if if this is for you come to the front and i was like i absolutely won't i went to him after and i told him i was like yeah you know listen i know you called i don't do that

01:31:11 - 01:31:20 | Speaker 2:

is there anything in the life of jesus that would make you think that uh doing a show and somewhere in that jesus would say come to the front and let's yeah but if a dude's reading scripture

01:31:20 - 01:31:30 | Speaker 3:

and speaking directly to your specific situation like I mean it's kind of an uncanny circumstance and you feel like maybe the nerve of you too

01:31:30 - 01:31:32 | Speaker 1:

to run up and like

01:31:32 - 01:31:45 | Speaker 2:

grab him. Well yeah she was unclean too. I mean that was like the nerve of homeboys to lower their homie in the rug. She had a blood issue that was unclean yeah. He was a carpenter though he could fix it. Jesus ain't fixing that

01:31:45 - 01:31:48 | Speaker 3:

he's got things to do afterwards. I never said anything about Jesus fixing that roof. They broke the roof

01:31:48 - 01:31:59 | Speaker 2:

that's not on me. Don't take that up with me he's not like you he's like yeah no problem i'll fix it maybe maybe but i don't know the scripture doesn't say this but the bottom line is they had to get at jesus right i'm saying but there's an

01:31:59 - 01:32:39 | Speaker 1:

action that they took sure what is that action now today prayer reading the word like how do you get to jesus through his word maybe it's walking up maybe it's it's maybe it's walking up maybe it is but i'll tell you what boldly in front of because when you walk up i've done it before and you feel the eyes on you and you're like and the eyes and the lady got her fedora on and i don't give a shit about those people the eyes are the people you know and you feel it on your neck yeah and you go they are like but who cares i think the point the point a little bit of that is like who gives a shit about david behind me yeah like i'm walking towards something and not that like you know the pastor there is jesus but like i don't know it just feels weird

01:32:39 - 01:32:52 | Speaker 2:

right we have no context for that in the bible that's all that's all i'm saying so it's like you know how we do these things and we have not just a one-off thing but a regularity to it it's like in the regularity thing because yeah they did the tongues again and i'm like

01:32:52 - 01:33:35 | Speaker 3:

where do we get that from if it doesn't come from the bible where do we get that from it's also strange because every time they do the tongues pastor mark has to address it every single time he's like look if you're if that gives you some pause that's it's biblical corinthians it talks about you know tongues and interpretations he says it every single time i'm like dog it's the same attendance in here maybe plus one or minus one new person yeah um but he has to explain himself every time and i feel like man the fact that you have to explain yourself says a lot because yeah you you know like this is fucking like i'm looking at the people that are doing it and i'm going every single time the same that you're the same ones and you give me this vibe of you know whatever i'm not gonna fucking say i know this person but i'm like doesn't feel authentic i'm

01:33:35 - 01:33:42 | Speaker 2:

just gonna say all is church growth i mean tongues is one that's gonna make that tough right yeah it's gonna like if a normal person comes in and they're gonna be like what yeah we're not coming

01:33:42 - 01:33:48 | Speaker 3:

back here think about my my juxtaposition it's weird very strange but uh yeah i don't know you

01:33:48 - 01:33:53 | Speaker 1:

got it what do you do if there is tongues you'd be like yeah that happens like sometimes i don't

01:33:53 - 01:34:17 | Speaker 3:

know i don't know yeah every no it happens every time sometimes two times and it's a it's a weird place for me to be because i am sitting there going this is gay and then all of a sudden he starts reading scripture and i go for fuck's sake that is very specific well then like i'm in this place where both of these things are happening at once this is what we asked i asked james yesterday

01:34:17 - 01:34:28 | Speaker 1:

i think james was right when we i brought up the uh example oh yeah kim walker in the church kim walker is like a jesus culture i think that's like hill song right or one of these something

01:34:28 - 01:34:37 | Speaker 2:

like that mega churches wait i think she used to crush actually back in the day she's good maybe like early 2000s she was in the game she i think i remember some songs she did that cover that's

01:34:37 - 01:34:53 | Speaker 1:

how i knew the misty walker song you like misty edwards yeah yeah she she did like a cover on of jesus culture of one of her songs and it was like more simplified but still crushes she's got a great voice yeah but she was telling a story on merkel show where they're doing their service and in the

01:34:53 - 01:34:58 | Speaker 2:

back some like levitating you told me this yeah yeah it's like a warlock and i was like where do

01:34:58 - 01:34:59 | Speaker 1:

you put that as a kin, somebody be

01:35:00 - 01:35:05 | Speaker 5:

out there like leeching on this energy and he's like oh what's that face about David

01:35:05 - 01:35:13 | Speaker 4:

I don't know we got a weird email about Christian podcast tours I don't even know what the fuck that is

01:35:13 - 01:35:17 | Speaker 3:

walk in man very unprofessional

01:35:17 - 01:35:33 | Speaker 5:

and James said he's like yo it's like darkness can't exist where there's light so therefore it's like cause I'm trying to figure out maybe in the front like they're doing a worship session and in the back this guy's like feeding off the energy and and doing some dark stuff and he's like no well what about the chick that follows him

01:35:33 - 01:36:09 | Speaker 3:

around and says these men have the words of god and then you know it goes on for several days and then paul finally like cast the demon out of the chick right acts like maybe 11 or 13 or 14 or 17 get away from me bitch in there yeah she's saying like these men have the truth of god and then he casts the demon out of her i mean that demon was still you know walking around in paul's presence but i guess yeah ultimately there comes a point where you can't be here anymore and that's and that's ultimately what paul was doing was saying like we have no affiliation with you so i i mean i don't know if somebody they levitate in church i'll tell you what man so somebody's

01:36:09 - 01:36:54 | Speaker 4:

joking around tiz says pod pastors trying to draft you that is a joke right but but in this instance reading that your dream come true it made me realize like how incredibly incompatible these two things are what two things this idea of like pod pastors or even like you know it's and it's not even anything negative to homeboy over at the church um aaron but like you're gonna get me in there singing or reading some shit like incompatible homie that's the play it's incompatible i i cannot fucking do it um and it's and it's mostly because the the word of god the scripture part almost always is speaking to something that is incredibly relevant in in our lives but the

01:36:54 - 01:37:59 | Speaker 3:

rest of what's going on fills me with unbridled rage yeah and i guess you know where that whole system really lost uh some face was like during coronavirus it was like oh no you don't have to be here right all the rest of time throughout uh church history or i shouldn't say church history because that's like a 2000 year thing but like modern American church is like no you got to be here well why can't I just read the Bible at home no no no you got to be here because like to your point it's like hey all the shenanigans I'm not with that but I love the scripture like I love the message okay cool then why don't I just watch a sermon at home then like and then I can just like skip through the shenanigans and just watch a sermon no no no you got to be here but then coronavirus comes like yeah you don't really have to be here you know it's like well do we or don't me because we got told this whole time we do so if it's really not relevant right now was it ever relevant oh yeah yeah it's it's relevant just not when the world system tells us you can't be here you know that's where it really lost face and that's where a lot of people are like ah you know i kind of was seeing a lot of this stuff for a long time and this is kind of really exposed the

01:37:59 - 01:38:48 | Speaker 4:

the the whole of it now i to me once again it just goes back to this idea of like how brutally badass this whole thing is to the extent that i am happy to build everything that i'm doing around it because this is uh to use like a really cliche it's epic this is an epic unbelievable um you know component it is the central component to our reality and this is the thing that demons cower to this is the thing that you know uh the earth opens up and drinks the blood of of like all this insane awesome shit and they've made it into fucking blues clues yeah it's tough that hurts dude like it fucking it drives me nuts while i'm sitting there so

01:38:48 - 01:39:01 | Speaker 3:

what's next i guess that's i'm gonna keep going because god keeps talking no no i'm not i'm not even just talking about like you got you guys like can't quit it now i get it like you especially because you got the guitar now you love the attention on the stage he's ripping it up

01:39:01 - 01:39:27 | Speaker 6:

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01:40:04 - 01:40:12 | Speaker 1:

what next for the Church of the Living God in America? Like, what is next, dude? Like, again, like... Maybe a few of us need to get our heads cut. The world has changed.

01:40:12 - 01:40:21 | Speaker 3:

What's next is not telling somebody with a specific set of skills that David has to participate in a choir or participate in reading a script.

01:40:21 - 01:40:23 | Speaker 1:

That's all they got, though. That's the model.

01:40:23 - 01:40:46 | Speaker 3:

No, I know, but that's not all that you have. That's just all that was offered before. there's a lot more that could be done and should be done when pastor rick walked out of here i told him i was like yeah well we didn't there that was fairly easy i don't know why when you're in this meeting and i don't know how many times you're meeting with the pastors and the elders of the church why are you not having conversations because it's a business it's meetings about

01:40:46 - 01:40:49 | Speaker 1:

i get that they get that from the world it's like we're gonna have a meeting about another meeting

01:40:49 - 01:40:53 | Speaker 3:

they're never talking to each other about the word of god and what they're reading it's just

01:40:53 - 01:41:33 | Speaker 1:

a business structure dude that was my frustration like business was like what's this meeting about well because we're having the big meeting on fridays we're meeting about me i'm like i i can't do this like especially i was like you guys pay me to sell like if i'm not out there selling then you need to pay me for my time here and that didn't go over well you know it's like we're having a meeting we tell you what to do it's like that's not our agreement our agreement is you pay me for what i sell right and that way the guy in the warehouse and the marketing department and the samples department and customer service and purchasing they all get paychecks because i'm out there selling stuff you want me to be here like having meetings about meetings and doing more meetings this isn't this isn't going you're also going to kill my morale about this whole thing yeah i think the they've adopted that world system is all i'm saying the next step for

01:41:33 - 01:42:16 | Speaker 3:

the church is to adopt the system similar to this you already have these guys that are knowledgeable in the word of god and they were talking about authenticity well what's the best way to talk to the people in your area and even out of your area you love missions yeah you already have they have $10,000 cameras. Point them at yourself. And you and the former pastor of this church and the other elders of this church sit there, have a conversation. You don't even need an audience. It should be recorded. People can look and learn and listen and know who you are and also learn about things. I think that's the next step. If they would have said, hey, David, we're looking to do something like that. Maybe you don't participate, but maybe you could help. You know

01:42:16 - 01:43:15 | Speaker 2:

what he said what do you say he goes uh yeah yeah so like maybe reading um maybe narrating and i go what's what does that look like and he goes oh you know we put stuff on the teleprompter you you do the voice you'll do like the voice no do the fucking voice dog i have one voice it is shrill it's annoying and it wields slurs dog okay i cannot do the voice it's insane to even offer me that to do the voice is an insane proposition what the fuck are you talking i would go for that i got in this 100 go if you know what i do a voice uh so when i would do like the raven if i do a solo show i'll adopt like a cadence or whatever and it's kind of like similar to a radio thing and it's because it fills the void of of oh raymond then yeah yeah yeah you want me to do raymond then dog the glasses you want me to do raymond then you want me to come in a wig and a suit and with the glasses like honestly that's not even you want me to do the

01:43:15 - 01:43:30 | Speaker 3:

voice like you're saying it that's a waste of everyone's that's a waste of your time saying is yeah i want you to fucking lie what he's saying is is that that's what that's what this system offers yeah the voice but it doesn't this motherfucker does the voice that's what drives

01:43:30 - 01:43:39 | Speaker 2:

me nuts too is like even the cadence that he talks with outside of doing the like the little quips for children he also has this package delivery thing that he's doing so where does

01:43:39 - 01:43:50 | Speaker 3:

it let me ask you a question then where does it stop we continue to complain about it but where does it stop and with who and how and as a matter of fact i don't think it does you listen to the

01:43:50 - 01:44:09 | Speaker 1:

voice of god until he gives you a christian library and a coffee shop it's like everybody's like oh no if i'm gonna do anything i need to go get a committee i need to go get 10 or 20 people i need to get the pastor to bless it i need to get the elders to bless it i think it's a good get a big group of people it's not like god can just use one stop i'm just saying no it's not

01:44:09 - 01:45:14 | Speaker 3:

where does it stop unless unless somebody that's that's close to you that's like already out of it like i've already if i've already seen the wizard i've already seen the trick yeah and you're still doing the trick and you're still feeding that wizard you don't even know well most of these people are doing the most of you these people are doing the wizard trick and don't know let me ask you this then it does it that's common so you're gonna stick around and reform that system okay then why are you there because i get to worship god with the thing that i do great the scripture was talking to him because my kids benefit tremendously from it so i'm like i i don't tithe to there but i i tithe with my with i ain't giving you my money dog well no but i my money my money goes to this if this isn't yeah but you're you're contributing you're helping this mission or a ministry is it whatever straight let's say straight bible is this is where my money goes so We just, we just bought. new new lights out there and all this stuff we just bought a bunch so yeah this is where my money goes as far as what is she saying i'm starting to think matt doesn't like i think this is where my money goes but that place is still doing a thing that i find beneficial for my kids and even

01:45:14 - 01:45:18 | Speaker 1:

for me just last week what's all this talk about where do we go from here what do we do now no

01:45:18 - 01:45:28 | Speaker 3:

the question is if you don't like this and you're seeing these people doing a thing then what do you say to them i think you just say i hate you or do you say hey listen you're not gonna get

01:45:28 - 01:45:35 | Speaker 1:

through to him dude i'm telling you from experience but you can stand there and bang your head against the wall and try to explain to people like hey something's not right here something's not right

01:45:35 - 01:46:19 | Speaker 3:

here's the question they've asked why that's interesting it's never it's never wise to approach somebody and go this is what you're doing wrong matt and out of nowhere but if somebody nobody asked you but they asked he said why why did you stop coming here yeah why don't you like this thing well now you've asked you have i think that it's it's now your responsibility maybe to formulate the answer and tell them exactly why because you're not wrong this is these are my qualms with what you're doing maybe nobody's told you this it's got it's got to be hard i don't like this and here are the reasons why and it's going to be hard for you to hear you might not like me or like me saying it but you got to fucking hear it at some point you made this shit gay and then what well yeah i don't know then then it's here your bowl you asked and then you asked

01:46:19 - 01:46:23 | Speaker 1:

here it is deal with it i don't know no and then what for you no no oh for us gonna change it well

01:46:23 - 01:46:54 | Speaker 2:

so then what for you yeah yeah we build what we're building yeah you said like this idea of would it change what's next or whatever like i honestly don't think i think you're right if somebody asks you you should tell them um i i personally don't think that system is going to change uh but so i think the solution is exactly what we're doing here exactly what we're doing and and that solution is different for everybody right it's not going to be the same you don't and not everybody gets the the microphone and the lights and the cameras and shit like that in the youtube channel or whatever um you know you were uh spreading the gospel to people who were ordering

01:46:54 - 01:47:28 | Speaker 1:

coffee before you were doing it on a show i was writing scriptures in port-a-pots before i could talk i didn't used to be able to talk like this like i used to just be really dumb with words boxes i'm not saying i'm smart with words now but like the greatest i couldn't like articulate anything to people so i just wrote scriptures on port-a-pots yeah yeah but like potties if so so say god says like said that at the beach too this generation's gonna die in the wilderness like how much time am i going to spend on that generation trying to get them to come to some kind of revival get them to change their ways like would you spend your time on that what

01:47:28 - 01:47:36 | Speaker 3:

generation are we talking about we're talking about 80 year old people in the church but then there's also a swath of there's a swath of 20 year old people there yeah my kids are there let's say

01:47:36 - 01:47:51 | Speaker 1:

let's not make it a generational thing i'm just using that as a as a um pattern that like he says ultimately like this thing's dead all right but that building how much time am i going to spend on this dead thing trying to like revive it well to once again to answer that question again but

01:47:51 - 01:47:56 | Speaker 2:

this is sitting there last week and this scripture is talking directly to the issue that we have so

01:47:56 - 01:48:23 | Speaker 3:

the system is dead but there are things that are happening in it west huff said uh recently again i think he said some really gay stuff about judeo-christianity but he was talking about uh orthodox christianity and he said he thinks that god still works in orthodox christianity and the catholic church not because of the church but in spite of the church and i'm like absolutely 100 that's why when they asked me uh i was thinking about going here should i go i said

01:48:23 - 01:48:46 | Speaker 2:

yeah you should go because god spoke directly to your situation in spite of how gay everything was around it yep like that's what i saw that's what i saw that's why i had like this almost like uh gritting of my teeth where it's like i cannot deny what i just heard but also i have just been exposed to something that is insulting and both of these things are true at the same time that

01:48:46 - 01:48:57 | Speaker 3:

thing has also asked you why do you think i'm gay well they haven't asked me directly pastor rick asked you that phone call was if you would have picked it up come and ask me to my face don't ask

01:48:57 - 01:49:05 | Speaker 2:

me for my phone number if he stepped up to me and he asked me to my face what's going on why i don't show up i'd be like yeah man it's fucking it's gay i well i almost there's also clips out there

01:49:05 - 01:49:15 | Speaker 3:

online that they've probably seen so they probably do know they know no they're not watching you guys song they're they're they're watching the show they've seen it don't don't fucking i mean if i

01:49:15 - 01:49:18 | Speaker 2:

had to say something it's like stop talking to fucking adults like they're children a lot of

01:49:18 - 01:49:33 | Speaker 3:

people have come up to me and they said that they they really like the they like the interview with with pastor rick it's a format that they hadn't seen him in in imagine that yeah very realistic very real yeah they said we had a good dynamic bouncing off each other and pastor rick is a

01:49:33 - 01:49:45 | Speaker 1:

dude imagine that there was no script there was no like announcements there was no songs there was no pre-written speech oh imagine that it's very real well i don't even the pre-written speech

01:49:45 - 01:50:00 | Speaker 2:

thing it's like every time you could tell pastor rick prepares a thing and he cares greatly about this thing that he's preparing and his own life experiences go into it so it's like i don't really have a problem even with the prepared thing it is to to take a thing and water it down

01:50:00 - 01:50:15 | Speaker 5:

is super um it's the style of it's the style of but it's like dangerous it's not offensive it's like if people were exposed to the true radical nature of this you know it's it's what i just

01:50:15 - 01:50:32 | Speaker 4:

described of uh uh what's misty edwards man was it there's only one way to that that song whatever that is uh it's like spooky and if you look at the music of how she plays it there are chords in there that maybe slip outside of the key and it makes this song very interesting but when jesus

01:50:32 - 01:50:42 | Speaker 6:

culture because she's not a musician she just went in there worshiping god at ihop like back in the day well and just started to like do it she just started to do somebody is a musician that is that's

01:50:42 - 01:51:18 | Speaker 4:

right she probably wrote the melody and then they created uh an accompaniment to it that makes it beautiful and spooky and it matches her that entire vibe that is like i can't describe it but when jesus culture plays it it's just in the key of e major and it still has that sort of vibe but it's lacking a thing because the accompaniment to it has been simplified for the masses. That's the reality. And Jesus' culture is much bigger than Misty Edwards because of the simplicity that they presented the song in. Is it wrong to bend the Bible to fit the masses? What do you mean? Has he bent the Bible to fit the masses or has he just changed the presentation?

01:51:19 - 01:51:21 | Speaker 6:

They're not bending the Bible.

01:51:21 - 01:51:42 | Speaker 5:

No, no, no. They're not bending scripture. That's not what they're doing. But I'm saying like, is it wrong to... maybe it's not because i mean you to do what do we do here what yeah yeah great point what do we do because we we set out do it for retarded we've set out intentionally to not do that yes but we do do it for retarded uh-huh we do it for people like us okay and they're doing it for people like

01:51:42 - 01:52:42 | Speaker 6:

that so i i don't know that's a good point okay but isn't it like clear at least that like on a very low level i know i've said this before that like they're the only model we had was like fox news cnn abc cbs everybody came to terms with like okay all of that is this very uncomfortable fake not like the way they have these conversations on those news channels and cut to a break it's anything but real it's anything but real so where we had then you come to this podcast thing and you're like oh these are real conversations i know you guys love joe rogan will say that like he has a three-hour conversation like wow that's a real conversation i think not like he's been co-opted by the cia okay but it's not like oh we have five minutes to do this thing and then we're going to cut the commercial which is the fakest way to have a conversation ever known to man the church is still under that model it's not like what the bible or the sermon is bad it's not that any of that's bad it's just they're still doing it the fakest way possible and even the world

01:52:42 - 01:52:46 | Speaker 4:

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quick yeah sport drink guys go use promo code squad i got another can of sport drink coming right now because uh i has all these things that i've been lacking i know i talk about it every episode but the particularly the potassium and the magnesium are huge especially if you're a drinker i'm not a drinker by the way guys i haven't had a drink since i came back from vacation i had to drink every single day on vacation because my family drinks and eats that's their communal thing it was a bit of a nightmare i wish i had sport drink i needed something to bring me back from the dead but back to what you were saying about uh yeah it's just like why why are they still

01:53:17 - 01:53:33 | Speaker 6:

doing this in the fakest model possible and everyone knows it's the fakest model but you just have the realest coolest thing so even with the fakest model possible it still can reach some puerto ricans that play guitar but in general everybody knows like this system is the fakest

01:53:33 - 01:53:44 | Speaker 4:

way possible i'm there in spite of that though don't you there was a there was like a very no there's a very critical decision after the whole clown thing where i was looking at it i You couldn't quit.

01:53:44 - 01:53:46 | Speaker 6:

Even the clowns couldn't make you quit.

01:53:46 - 01:53:56 | Speaker 4:

I said, either I'm never going back here. That's not going to happen. Or I'm going to go back here harder. Those are my two decisions. Either I'm not going to come or I'm going to come. By playing guitar?

01:53:57 - 01:54:06 | Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah. I said, all right, I'll volunteer. I heard you, by the way, showing off the other day. It wasn't this one, but it was the last one. Oh, okay. Oh, no, the one before that. What did I do?

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01:55:10 - 01:55:48 | Speaker 2:

going on and i was like this motherfucker is doing some shit right now that's what that's that's like that is you're like playing with you on the system you're supporting that system you're keeping that system alive no problem nah man i'm i'm worshiping god with the instrument that i i've been uh chosen to play no problem that's it but yeah i had a decision on to go to not go back and I weighed out like what did that look like what's that look like if I don't go back keeping the system alive is better who gives a shit about the system what does that look like for me and again this is very greedy but whatever I don't care if they see this what does it look like for me if I don't go back there even though it's one day a week if I'm not surrounded by this stuff if

01:55:48 - 01:56:02 | Speaker 1:

I don't hear some of these messages it is a great reorientation once a week to recalibrate in a big way and like okay I'm literally getting up and going to this place that's about this and it's the same thing when we come here you know and you're doing it with him on straight bible yeah

01:56:02 - 01:56:14 | Speaker 3:

so you're in a constant reorientation having any effect on him though that's what he's saying no no he's saying that like i say this stuff all the time it never affects him and all of a sudden the guy at the 501c3 says you got to forgive people and top's like i can't believe it i gotta forget

01:56:14 - 01:56:26 | Speaker 2:

by matt's own admission i mean uh last week we were talking about the daily bread and it's not like oh yeah my weekly bread oh yeah my tuesday and thursday bread it's daily bread okay so what

01:56:26 - 01:56:33 | Speaker 3:

am i doing on sunday yeah games jerking off dog what am i doing on sunday you're eating bread i

01:56:33 - 01:57:18 | Speaker 2:

don't know saturday we went to the beach what are we doing on the day that i'm not doing anything what am i doing on wednesday nights well wednesday nights sometimes if if i have the time show i go and i yeah i go and i get to play with these people and it's yeah man it's like we're all right so i get to come in one accord no offense and and and play in practice to god i don't and and the great thing is too is like i don't even have to hear like the no offense the drummer's kind of bad i don't have to hear him we have like a great system where i turn him off and i play the click track and i play my own thing i hear the instruments that i want to hear yeah so whatever you guys hear and i'm sorry yeah dude i'm hearing i'm here i hear myself in the mix and i hear like my chosen instruments and i get to play and i was like this is actually gratifying this is this is good for me yeah and and if if i'm practiced and i know my parts and that's an interesting thing

01:57:18 - 01:57:23 | Speaker 3:

there because it's satisfying this desire for music and worship right on this is how i worship

01:57:23 - 01:57:50 | Speaker 2:

this is how david worshiped as well and i'm sure that he got great benefit from this by sitting down and playing this and playing by myself is great playing with other people is is better that's that's just how i see it and then also my kids benefit from this greatly it helps this place it helps this place that is helping my kids so it's the least that i can do if i'm not giving monetarily i'll give with my time and that's my time that's it but the rest of my money and my time goes to doing this this is this is more important to the valid point so this is what i

01:57:50 - 01:58:04 | Speaker 1:

do but that's what you have to be in it it's almost like the best way to operate within it is to be a radical who's in a system that is soft and who is aware of the soft pliability of the

01:58:04 - 01:58:28 | Speaker 2:

i would not have come back if if i wasn't if i was of the mindset before i would not have come back and done what i've done now because you're just not understanding what this thing is like Like before, you're like, oh, the church is this. You make up in your mind what the church should be and what it was supposed to be. And then you get in and it's nothing like that. I understand what this is.

01:58:28 - 01:58:30 | Speaker 3:

But you're not making it up. You're looking at the Bible.

01:58:30 - 01:58:36 | Speaker 2:

Right. Okay. But you make up in the mind. You reflect on this system what you think it should be. No, no.

01:58:36 - 01:58:49 | Speaker 3:

You read in the Bible what the church is. But it's not. And then you assume that if something today is called the church, that it would be the same way we see the church in the Bible. And it ends up not being. different than saying like oh i'm gonna project what i think the church should be that's but also

01:58:49 - 01:59:06 | Speaker 2:

i mean even even the earliest churches were fallible that's most of the books in the new testament are going to be just making mistakes condemnations of them yeah jesus is writing to them i mean this is what ed's new book is about the jesus code shout out ed uh it's i think it's the seven letters to the churches so it's like yeah these guys messed up paul's writing to the

01:59:06 - 01:59:39 | Speaker 3:

churches so it's yeah they're all fallible in some form but he's not saying this entire scale and the entire pattern, the entire structure of what you're doing is wrong. He's saying you're screwing up here with this situation, this situation, this situation. But the whole thing's not. Yeah, the whole thing is in a show that's being replicated by the masses on all denominations. It's all being replicated all across the nation exactly the same. You might say you have different doctrine or different theology, but you're replicating this model exactly the same across the nation.

01:59:39 - 01:59:49 | Speaker 2:

So again, what we're dealing with is exactly David's problem. You're dealing with like, all right, scripturally, is it there? Check. It's got to be because, yes, that happens.

01:59:49 - 01:59:49 | Speaker 1:

Yeah.

01:59:49 - 01:59:50 | Speaker 2:

Right? We witnessed that.

01:59:50 - 01:59:53 | Speaker 1:

You're reading from scripture. So, you know, you could twist it, but they're not twisting it.

01:59:54 - 01:59:59 | Speaker 2:

But the delivery method is bad. And the delivery method is reinforced. But I guess it's not bad for 90.

02:00:00 - 02:00:05 | Speaker 5:

95% of the attendees also like, okay, but what is the effect on 95? That's what ultimately we're

02:00:05 - 02:00:50 | Speaker 3:

talking about. If that system had any effect on the people and made mature believers, I promise I'd shut my mouth. I promise. I promise, man. But if it's continues to create these babies who have been in the church for so long where Paul's like, dude, I cannot feed you with meat. I have to give you milk. Then what are we doing guys? And we've forsaken the biblical model, apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelists, and teachers for the edifying of the saints to build up the body for the work of the ministry the people are supposed to be doing the work not coming and watching uh and just and just being some kind of like uh what's called where you sit in the stands and just watch a thing like a fan no it's called something else too though but like spectator yeah spectator like that like that's not what the bible tells us it doesn't say put on a show for the paid the paid people put on a show for the spectators it's far from it it's like what the what we were talking

02:00:50 - 02:01:03 | Speaker 5:

about earlier in the episode with the comments where it's like you read the comments yeah i read them and then i say which ones are valid and then if they're valid maybe i take into consideration and change it but if not i discard it but it seems like what's happened over time is that like

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02:02:05 - 02:02:26 | Speaker 5:

They've read the comments, and now they're placating to the people. There's nothing else. What else are they going to do? If the people would have asked Henry Ford to go faster, they would ask for a faster horse, right? And he's like, no, it's a car. here take that they didn't want a car because what is it yeah they don't even know what it is i don't know what the problem is the problem that like there is a that there are solutions but uh okay

02:02:26 - 02:02:40 | Speaker 3:

so you're in that system as it's kind of dying off i'm out of that system as it's dying off and that's okay it's okay we have we have two different views on it and so it's okay it's not i wouldn't say two different views i would just say like two different applications to the same view also i

02:02:40 - 02:02:50 | Speaker 5:

i wouldn't even describe myself as in the system it's just a place i go i don't know yeah i don't it's it's a it's a weird one it's a place that i go and something that i get stuff from i feel like

02:02:50 - 02:02:54 | Speaker 3:

i took raymond off the rails and i feel terrible no no no you didn't even finish one story oh we

02:02:54 - 02:03:18 | Speaker 5:

definitely didn't finish one let's finish one are we gonna be able to finish one story maybe fucking long it's gotta get spooky out here hold on okay someone was uh wailing this oh the people running up and down the aisles this is where we got on this the joy jumpers yeah you want to joy jump stop all right someone was wailing saying they needed prayer so the pastor called up all the children to put our hands on this person and there's nothing about wrong with celebrating and

02:03:18 - 02:04:27 | Speaker 3:

being joyous in the lord don't get me wrong i'm just saying the way it gets done in the show is very i can't do that because that's that's uh not only that when i heard the guy say one time uh he said uh i used to travel with a so-called prophet we were in like south florida doing stuff at like a so-called pentecostal church and he said to the pastor he said hey let me see your those three spanish ladies in the back those three spanish ladies in the back he goes church of god and he looked at him he said yeah how'd you know and he went like this uh and they both started laughing so when i asked him later i said what did that mean he said oh well when you pray for people from the church of god denomination they shake like this like they're being moved by the holy spirit and i was like and i think he saw the terror in my face i was like well i i thought that's because that like that was the holy spirit like they could they weren't they weren't like doing that on purpose they couldn't help he's like oh yeah well yeah uh you know blah blah blah and didn't know what to say and so yeah like that's what i'm talking about like these learned responses those are the things i'm not down with if you love the lord and you're jumping and shouting for joy in the lord because you love him and you have a childlike nature and you're so grateful to him amen i love that but when it's just these learned responses from denominations

02:04:27 - 02:04:53 | Speaker 5:

that's a little different this is what i explained to pastor mark too i was like i'm coming up to you afterward to let you know about whatever you just said because you might not know but I know that you spend time developing this message and sometimes it it's beneficial for you to hear that God told you to do this because somebody was hearing it. Somebody got touched by it. And I said, but I'm not going to come up when you do this call because I don't do this whole thing. You're very

02:04:53 - 02:04:59 | Speaker 3:

kind and sweet to him if we can be honest. I feel like that's fair. You're very mean and nasty in person. You're one of the kind.

02:05:00 - 02:07:54 | Speaker 2:

people that anybody's ever met thank you the person was being asked i was asking for healing and for prophecy the pastor said you will be healed but i feel for some other i feel some other presence here he pointed at me he laid his hands on me he prayed for me said i too would be healed and that i will go on to do great things in life i had no idea what this meant but right after this i'd realized my foot no longer hurt the next morning the punctures from the carpet wound were gone interesting that is interesting we would become heavily involved with that church i go to vbs my mom would volunteer and i become intertwined within the community there was a middle-aged couple that had an older son like he was early 20s he would volunteer with the young kids my age group at the time was seven to ten but one one winter we the kids realized he was no longer volunteering i would turn it would turn out that he had some sort of traumatic event renounced christianity and wanted nothing to do with his parents he would become involved in the church of satan in our town and went down a dark path my mother and i would then later go visit his parents after he committed suicide oh damn damn my mom wanted to offer her aid and comfort but uh in their house i would file i would find a pile of drawings seemingly very demonic in nature in which my mother would snatch them out of my hand and tell me not to look at them she would read the story on the back and realize it was a suicide note i would later learn that he indicated that he couldn't take it anymore that he had witnessed them kill and sacrifice a baby and he felt like he was irredeemable and wanted to end his life fuck i know i was watching that uh disclosure movie yeah my kids were in the pool this is my at my aunt's house they were in the pool on the other side and it got to the point uh where they're doing uh they're doing like a flashback it's very interesting there's a a guy that seems to know it all he's like an insider government guy that turns and he's creating a set through the whole movie and you don't know why he's creating a set he's recreating the protagonist's house the the lady the anchor woman he's recreating her house because when she finally does come there he puts her in it and it recreates he puts he recreates the event in which her and the other protagonists get abducted okay a traumatic event yeah the trauma the scene of the trauma yeah yeah and and i mean they frame this as like they're the good guys but clear there's a clear abduction and she's freaked out by it and the the guy's freaked out like they do not want to relive whatever happened and they're like they're panicking um but my kid walks in and he starts like watching it and i like run over and i grab him and i like put him back in the pool i was like something about that that scene specifically and it's not

02:07:54 - 02:08:10 | Speaker 2:

even like any like gore or like you know content that's yeah yeah yeah it's not that but it's also not like uh like oh it's boobs don't look cover your eyes it was just something in me i was like you can't see this yeah like this is not something that would that reminds me i don't want you to

02:08:10 - 02:08:46 | Speaker 3:

see that the fourth kind with mila jovovich where they're reliving these experiences and the trauma of their experiences under regressive hypnosis is like so intense there was actually a documentary of a guy it was a hat man documentary and they had him under regressive hypnosis and he's he's recalling you know these traumatic events where he's seeing this man with a hat and this is actual footage if i'm not mistaken in this documentary and it's fucking hard to watch no gore nothing else but seeing somebody like reliving their trauma and like going through the drama of it all

02:08:46 - 02:09:05 | Speaker 2:

they showed the alien as well which is like don't look at that alien my kids are not looking you're not gonna look directly at a demon yeah so anyway okay next paragraph my mom divorced my dad after that that sucks as my half brother was killed in a motorcycle the next year a motorcycle accident the next year she would never

02:09:05 - 02:09:08 | Speaker 3:

this is the hitchhiker stuff this guy's getting his

02:09:08 - 02:09:39 | Speaker 2:

life blapped up this is kind of why it's like this lady went over there to offer condolences to this kid and then your life gets fucked and that's blah blah blah yeah that's why i'm like maybe not you know sorry colin um as my half brother was killed in a motorcycle accident uh she would never recover from that heartache and pain become addicted to painkillers and alcohol the mom yeah that sucks she remarried another man from another church a couple years later and it would turn out that his sister was an actual practicing witch with altar spells the whole

02:09:39 - 02:09:47 | Speaker 1:

deal oh whoa whoa whoa so this mom has gone from uh catholic in the beginning to watching the

02:09:47 - 02:09:52 | Speaker 2:

thing getting drilled in the skull yeah to pentecostal revival away from that pentecostal

02:09:52 - 02:10:29 | Speaker 1:

revival to the guy um kills himself she finds the note she's Thank you.

02:10:00 - 02:10:06 | Speaker 4:

divorce now remarried like the mom's got a wild ass story yeah she's going through it

02:10:06 - 02:10:20 | Speaker 6:

she's going through it yeah um her uh the the mom of the new man she married is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic he had an insane porn addiction and was not wait his sister was a

02:10:20 - 02:10:31 | Speaker 4:

witch and his mother was a you stole my line i just want to make sure we're on the same page that's crazy so the white so the sister new sister-in-law's a witch and the mother-in-law

02:10:31 - 02:10:41 | Speaker 5:

is a schizophrenic and the husband has a porn issue that to me is generational iniquity but maybe i'm just calling everything that these days that marriage would only last a few years

02:10:41 - 02:10:53 | Speaker 6:

from this time about until 25 i would continue to attend church regularly volunteer read the bible engage in theological discussion and mostly not have any notable supernatural things happen

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02:11:57 - 02:14:02 | Speaker 6:

skipping way ahead i got married late in life and i was only married roughly for eight months five of which we were separated she and i met on a dating app grinder uh no it's insane uh went on a couple of dates and at the time had a feeling that i should not engage with this person. I shrugged it off and continued to be friends with her. A different woman at that time that I worked with was an ex of mine, and when I moved back into the city to take this job, she basically took over my life again. Wasn't proud of it, very weak of me, but I acquiesced and let her run my life for like two years. So I only occasionally talked to the now ex-wife on and off in a platonic fashion. Eventually, I grew a spine and cut that person out of my life. We met up, I guess, with his wife. I met up with my soon-to-be wife a few times to hang out, nothing sexual. We went our separate ways, and eventually she reached out on the anniversary of my father's death. I was having a hard time, and I welcomed someone in my life. Anyone, I guess. At the time, it felt like some sort of divine providence. Perhaps the Lord letting me know, letting my dad make a connection for me in this life somehow. We would date for a few months. i would feel comfortable in in that this is the person i'm going to marry and propose to her when we would be engaged a little over a year before getting married she moved in with me a bit after we got engaged bringing crystals into the house with her damn it oh looking back i sort of now assume she figured out that the this original date of my dad's death by a combination of cyber stalking and social engineering we've heard a story similar to this yeah yep yep yep or who knows what else divination one of our friends reached out with a similar story we can't say uh she was previously engaged in the story i was told was that she caught her fiance at the time cheating on her marriage was cold off she still hangs out with this person apparently after she and i divorced but she refers to him by a nickname so i never realized that's who she

02:14:02 - 02:14:17 | Speaker 4:

was referring to oh that's so terrible that's so terrible i hate that i don't know sometimes you hear these stories and you're just thankful that hell yeah for the grace of god on your own life dude like you like you're hearing this and you're like dude anybody's life could kind of oh yeah

02:14:17 - 02:15:00 | Speaker 5:

gone this way man i was thinking about that just the other day uh when it came to my wife like my relationship is so solid and i realized like i don't know if i'm built for a destabilizing relationship like i i don't know if if god could have served me up a bad relationship in a bad wife um or if i could have like missed the signs and been with somebody else like i think part of the reason i'm able to operate in any manner of success whatever whatever you would call that in you know in life is because my relationship is so solid because i i think about it every once in a while it's like harrowing to think about you know being plenty of people are people probably hearing me right now and like Let's go.

02:15:00 - 02:15:13 | Speaker 2:

coughing like oh yeah if you had my relationship or some shit like that but like dude i'm just not i don't think i'm built for there's a lot of things that i'm built for there's a lot of things that i can tolerate i don't think i'm built for a bad marriage i'm not either bro like if i came

02:15:13 - 02:15:22 | Speaker 1:

home like i had buddies that always like to fight with their girl like they enjoyed fighting yeah and i'm like oh my wife did my wife did that i just have too much going on like out there like

02:15:22 - 02:15:38 | Speaker 3:

when i come home i gotta chill yeah man yeah yeah that's a big reason why i didn't like i mean you know i liked him as a dude but like didn't like jose of the tower gang podcast because like always talking shit about his wife it's a rough like some people do that it's like a cultural

02:15:38 - 02:15:50 | Speaker 1:

thing right like a like lever yeah yeah i don't know what to do like no no no be like stop be grateful for like what like what if you had no wife or if you would cry i would cry if you hate

02:15:50 - 02:15:54 | Speaker 3:

everything about her then leave her and stop fucking talking but that's a mindset you didn't

02:15:54 - 02:15:59 | Speaker 1:

marry a chick that you don't love yeah i know if you let your mind play tricks on you like that

02:15:59 - 02:16:24 | Speaker 3:

you gotta stop listen i'm not i'm not i'm not dr phil just don't come to me dr phil he's talking about aliens now it brings it brings me down like i don't like that yeah yeah say nice things about your wife bro while we were engaged she accused me of many things of having women over the house claiming she found hair in the bathroom that she couldn't have been either of ours i have dark brown hair that will fade and look reddish brown and she and the hair she found was red

02:16:24 - 02:16:26 | Speaker 2:

or she claimed to find

02:16:26 - 02:18:30 | Speaker 3:

yeah it didn't matter she was convinced I had someone over I let her borrow my car very nice car some are saying the nicest of cars for a bachelorette party road trip she was taking bad idea few days after this trip she confronts me says she found some press on nails in the car probably from her friends convinced I had some woman in the car she had already called the two shops in the area that did work on it to ask if any of their females employees had been in it they said no so she was convinced i was up to no good yeah i wasn't that's yeah it's just horrible hate it i was convinced that i could just show her if i was an honest person things would be fine i had actually never given her any reason to assume otherwise terrible at her wedding reception she was convinced my mentor slash manager and his wife were talking about her. Saying she looked like an ex-girlfriend of mine and comparing her that way. They weren't. They would never do that. I'd known them for over a decade. They're upright people. Didn't matter. She insisted that they did. Sounds like you just married a crazy bitch. Yeah, many such cases. She insisted they did and that I needed to sever ties with them. Two months into my marriage, she started on benzo medication as prescribed by a psychiatrist. Let's go. She had not told me about this. Let's not go. yeah let's not do benzos i immediately noticed a change in her behavior and tried to bring it up amicably it did not go well she would admit in the conversation to being on new medication but insist that nothing had changed she grew more and more paranoid as the time progressed over the month over this month that's it she looked like a different person looking back oh because they were they were married for three months and then separated for eight right something like that separated for five married for eight months separated for five so there's three months in the this whole time period okay that they're together um i describe it as her being possessed her facial structure was changed oh her eyes noticeably different so much so that my mom asked what was wrong with her because in a photo she sent to my mom to my mom of us her eyes were

02:18:30 - 02:19:39 | Speaker 2:

what my mom called vacant yeah dude that the vacant thing we're talking about that yesterday with like billy carson and that's right we're talking about that with james yeah uh albarino yeah yeah he's not there by the way quick little aside story shout out daddy what i mean we mean no offense daddy um you guys ever see that video of that chick she's in the club apparently the backstory is she had been you know in a bad relationship and she you know broke up with the guy she's in the club she's got lipstick on and she's kissing the shirts of men in the club without their knowledge to get them in trouble to get them in trouble yeah that's horrific and i'm like yeah you fucking bitch that's which that's kind of witchcraft i mean dudes are going home that night after you know getting to go out and and whatever have a couple of drinks with the boys i don't know what you're doing at the club as a man uh you know in your relationship explain that there you go right yeah yeah uh but still now you got some shit to explain because some goofy bitch who you know goes into her hate all men stage starts putting lipstick on and kissing shirts like whoa man whoa i was just thinking about that as a terrible terrible video uh she

02:19:39 - 02:19:54 | Speaker 3:

was always a very jealous and paranoid person but i just chalked it up to this is what she experienced so she expects things to go wrong she spied on me through our security cameras during the work during the day i work from home and watch me in the bathroom what yo that's just

02:19:54 - 02:20:00 | Speaker 2:

like what the that's just like what this witch does to my dad she was Okay.

02:20:00 - 02:20:04 | Speaker 5:

convinced i was up to no good on my own in the bathroom for some reason yes when she said

02:20:04 - 02:21:24 | Speaker 4:

bro bro i'm telling you in the bathroom you're doing diarrhea in there this woman does witchcraft on my father and then is constantly no woman single yeah singular she's constantly accusing him of when he when me my father and my son went out for the first time in my life and the last time in my life together i said hey dad i want to go bowling i haven't had you in my life for my whole life and i'd like to try to spend some time together me you and your grandson and it was like pulling teeth to get this to happen we went out had a couple of beers bold came back and she was all of a sudden dressed in like a street walker's outfit accusing him of going out and cheating and then told him she's gonna go outside and stand on the corner and talk to whoever comes up to petition her because of what he had done and what he had done was gone out bowling for two hours there were a couple of spares with his son yeah he wasn't very good with with his son and his grandson and i was never able to ever be alone with him again after that she would she would loom in the background like all and then of course witchcraft panties in the coffee pot all that shit damn

02:21:24 - 02:22:38 | Speaker 5:

um she was convinced I was up to no good in the bathroom and when she said well I have video of you that's always funny I was in the bathroom with the stomach flu I lost it I screamed at her couldn't believe what she was doing told her she had to get help she couldn't keep intentionally sabotaging our marriage she would later admit to spying on me while we sat on the porch through our security cameras trying to see what I was looking at my phone while i was sitting across from her whoa that's high-tech she would find nothing interesting because i wasn't doing anything nefarious during this time my very nice car's battery kept dying wouldn't stay charged there was nothing wrong with the electrical i worked on cars most of my life my dad worked at a car audio shop and i have a degree in electrical engineering didn't matter it would always be dead the next day very weird huh she would like Like unplugged. Yeah, when is she sabotaging his shit? Turn your lights on. Also during this time, there were smells of sulfur in the home. Yo! Couldn't track it down. This bitch Fortin. Even had HVAC plumbing people out. Could never figure out a source. But it was only when she was in the house or briefly after she left the house. Damn, that thing stank.

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gulfcoast.org what eventually all the tension culminated on a thursday evening while uh when we were going to bed she said you're gonna have to do this without me please just take care of the animals what the bro we had four cats and a dog at the time we just we had just got the fourth cat it's a problem a very tiny sphinx and was very sweet but would ultimately pass under her care soon after oh you bitch i mean i don't really care too much hey come on man what the hell is a very tiny sphinx it's very sweet i asked her what she meant she said i'll figure it out oh my god bro the next day she calls me to let me know before lunch that she wouldn't be coming home that this is the end of it to let her mom know and her brother know that she did in fact love them and tell the animals the same oh tell the animals bro imagine living in this kind of stress she kept a taurus pistol on her at all times based with a round chambered okay i mean she could have chambered it though it does not really yeah no i mean if she if she's carrying and she keeps one in the expensive too that's right yeah smart kind of i don't get a glock i asked if there was anything i could do she said no and that i shouldn't send anyone to do a welfare check at work or to call the police or to try to contact her doctors because the second she found out i did it would be bad for the people at work around her i wept i screamed i cried out to god like a Bitch.

02:25:00 - 02:26:17 | Speaker 3:

i asked him for help i called her doctor's offices and i said she was having some sort of an episode and they said she was they would send the police and i said she no she threatened to harm herself and others and she's armed it's a bad idea this guy must be in florida or texas or like one of these and he must be freaking the fuck out man the doctor told me to pack up all the medication in the house and take it with me so i did we had two other ars in the home one of which i would would become a big deal later oh geez man i don't know if we're gonna get to this because we're late in the episode but her psychiatrist called anyway it's a lot she then called me and screamed at me and said i'd never see her again i got in the car and drove over to her work and she was already gone i drove over to her mother's house also not there went by the places she normally hangs out wasn't there i drove around for hours trying to find her and then i get a call from her asking where i am i said i'm out driving looking for you she said she was at the house and she was leaving to finish the job finish the job how many parts to this job is there i called the police told her she was armed and i didn't know what she was going to do they told me to go to the house and try to talk to her i said i was pretty far they said that's fine drive as fast as you need keep us on the phone and we'll get an escort going and other

02:26:17 - 02:26:30 | Speaker 2:

units will stay outside of the coldest if this wasn't like why it's happening that's almost so cool like i can go as fast as i want and you're gonna escort me let's go bro i got this fancy

02:26:30 - 02:27:00 | Speaker 3:

car but i got this witch at home fuck i get to the house she's gone and she's left a gift she's left a gift of a watch on the table for me with the note indicating that i'd need it i call her yeah she actually picks up the phone bitch is doing too much i asked what's going on and she screams at me saying i must give her medication back and must give her an ar and she's also screaming at me asking if there's anything i want to admit i say no i have no idea what you're

02:27:00 - 02:27:04 | Speaker 2:

talking about this is all an elaborate ruse to get him to admit to cheating even though he's not

02:27:04 - 02:27:24 | Speaker 3:

cheated yeah she's gonna go to she's gonna go to jail and then he's gonna cheat on you because you won't be there anymore whoa how many dudes do you know like this though like that live under this sort of show i know oh my god yeah no there's nobody i've known i've known a couple dudes yeah i don't know to this severity but like crazy girlfriend shit doing stuff like

02:27:24 - 02:27:51 | Speaker 2:

i've known pretty damn close to almost exactly like this minus the witchcraft at least it was never overt you need to get some church friends man you should start going to church oh yeah maybe i'll sing in the choir maybe you'll do some narration i might maybe do the voice raymond been here philippians 4.3 end of the world news uh i have no idea what you're talking about she

02:27:51 - 02:28:24 | Speaker 3:

took she took my prescriptions at the time i was recovering from a back injury from bike racing she said i'd need to bring her meds the fucker had a back injury too yeah they're all on meds uh i need to bring her meds and exchange them in a public place along with the ar that's fucking nuts uh the police change the ar in a public place with me this was all on speakerphone the police said i needed to go and do that so that they could take her into custody if need be okay the police would remove the firing pin from the ar before i leave smart but damage it in the

02:28:24 - 02:28:31 | Speaker 2:

process you assholes yeah uh well i guess you got to save this bitch we agree to meet in a nearby

02:28:31 - 02:28:41 | Speaker 3:

public parking garage she tells me i have to park far enough away from her so that i can't try to box her in and that if i try anything she's armed she instructs me to put the gun case in the middle

02:28:41 - 02:29:04 | Speaker 1:

of the lot so what do you do though this is your wife drop her with a straight right i mean it's like at some point in the story i'm like stop effing with this chick dude like get out of this like how far you could never talk to this human ever again well like it's just like oh no but it's my wife so like you kind of have to like i just i don't know man i think uh there's just too many times in the story where i'm like this is just a human i'm never talking to it you gotta

02:29:04 - 02:29:50 | Speaker 3:

go back in time and never marry her uh yeah like time travel the signs were there and i think he still did it anyway this is what we were talking about my cousin with my other cousin that's visiting from new york and i was like it was his wedding day and i had told him i didn't know much about his his girlfriend at the time his fiance at the time but for some reason i told him uh my advice on that day was hey listen uh marriage with somebody doesn't get like all the things that were there before doesn't make him go away no no marriage doesn't do that it magnifies it good luck i had no idea what was going on in his marriage and i mean if you know what's happening with him now it's like a fucking mess um but yeah it doesn't go away it gets

02:29:50 - 02:29:55 | Speaker 2:

magnified so there's do you think god would get madder if you beat her up than if you divorced her

02:29:55 - 02:30:00 | Speaker 3:

i'm not gonna answer that might be biblical it.

02:30:00 - 02:32:01 | Speaker 1:

to hit your wife at this point but all right uh left right uppercut so she picks up the ar drops off my meds and goes back to the car leaves in a hurry police said there's nothing else to do i should go home i go home and about 30 minutes later she comes hauling into the coldest i can't handle this story this is so fucking crazy bro this is going this way and almost puts her car through the garage door god damn she gets out screaming waving the pistol yelling about how the firing pin was taken out of her rifle and that it was damaged asking me what i thought i was going to accomplish did she try to fire it bro what happened to the police weren't they supposed to intercept this shit no they went home wait wait wait i don't understand they were like hey take the firing pin out situation averted balls in your court homeboy what the fuck you said she had a taurus no probably no problem yeah no problem that's crazy though i i i can't believe they didn't i mean she's already made illusions to killing herself i dialed the yeah they should have baker acted her there yeah so they just said remove the firing pin our work here is done i dialed the number the police gave me earlier uh quickly in my phone during all this just click from recent numbers and leave the phone in my pocket they hear us arguing they dispatch units to the house we should have been at the house it's crazy when she hears the sirens she starts yelling more you guys couldn't turn the sirens off i think like it's a problem of like they don't like the person making the call to the people don't really know. Jeez, man. Yeah, they're unorganized. She starts yelling more when she hears the sirens, asking me what I think this is going to do. Asking if I really think I can save her. All while I'm trying to calmly plead with her to stop this, and she's still waving the pistol around at me. Jeez, bro. You got a fucking dick. Yeah, this is too stressful. You control that wrist with the fucking pistol, and you just clean knock her out i don't know i mean what or else what you're gonna get shot yeah that like at that point someone is waving a gun around you have to shoot them but that's

02:32:01 - 02:32:07 | Speaker 2:

your wife yeah but is it like waving around like you know like knows how to hold it or is it just

02:32:07 - 02:33:24 | Speaker 1:

like if she's finished oh man and she's holding it sideways that's your wife is she putting out i mean at this point in the game is she putting out because maybe i have some sympathy if she's putting out and you don't want to you know cold cock her that's not the question here she runs to the backyard and throws the pistol in the woods before the cops get to the house the cops try to question her uh ask her what she's doing she refused to cooperate says we were just having an argument and that i was at i was actually the problem they should be questioning me instead while this is going on two other officers are canvassing the woods behind the house with the dog they find the pistol bring it to the front of the house one of the female officers says why don't you come out with me tell me what your husband has done wrong oh yeah yeah that's a good point come on come fucking gossip about your husband yeah girl boss she agrees they get near her cop car handcuff her and call an ambulance from transport smart yeah she starts screaming claiming that they're assaulting her they aren't eventually they get her into the ambulance and take her to the hospital for a psych hold that's what they should have done in the first place but officers returned the pistol to me as well as the as well as the ar that was in her car okay but did they fix the damage they said that they took him into evidence she would never be allowed to own a firearm again cool yes like like laura loomer oh yeah yeah laura loomer that

02:33:24 - 02:33:33 | Speaker 2:

crazy bitch wait wait wait speak nice about her so all of this story that we just read her punishment is she can't own a firearm well once you're once your baker acted you can't own a

02:33:33 - 02:33:48 | Speaker 1:

firearm so that's that's it though that's like that's your punishment she is uh held in the psych ward for like four days okay that's just one part of this none of this is a punishment me that's like a proactive measure okay you can't own a gun if you've been admitted nobody human

02:33:48 - 02:33:53 | Speaker 2:

like this are they supposed to be like in society we'll find out what they do with her she's in the

02:33:53 - 02:34:30 | Speaker 1:

psych hold for like four days during that time she claimed that they were assaulting her and uh she blamed me for all of it her mother says that it was probably better if she went to live with her for a while i agreed she was mad about this as well i gotta address this dumbass actual says she must be a smoke show to which panda fly says yeah beer flavored nipples i don't know what that means it's very funny that's kind of funny that's very funny good job because they're sipping on that beer beer flavored nipples it's just she's just that's just panda fly thinking of what would drive a dude crazy was she she was probably very attractive exiles in the chat sparrow said most

02:34:30 - 02:34:45 | Speaker 2:

crazy bitches are not attractive and it's like even if they were by the time they're crazy now they're not it doesn't matter if they're hot it's like what if they have beer flavored nipples still bro another thing that's crazy um these nipples taste like modelo one is a little crazy

02:34:45 - 02:34:57 | Speaker 1:

though because he's got a wild ass background and he kind of likes this yeah one likes also i mean listen man the crazy girls have that grippy so one might have been might have had that grippy yeah i don't know if you know what that means don't worry about it i don't want to

02:34:57 - 02:35:00 | Speaker 2:

know what's going on everyone

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02:36:01 - 02:36:15 | Speaker 5:

off like yeah yeah that's crazy kind of thing i don't like it just keep going she was tight i don't like this yeah no that's what they say what do they say uh they grip better than like

02:36:15 - 02:36:21 | Speaker 4:

uh hospital say hospital socks yeah yeah it's crazy going grippy socks grippy box there we go

02:36:21 - 02:36:27 | Speaker 6:

dumbass actual says let's just read the story grippy rocks okay let's just okay okay that means

02:36:27 - 02:37:01 | Speaker 5:

that it's tight she's mad about this as well about a week after that she'd come to get the dog and two of the cats to take with her to her mom's about a week later she'd call me in in the middle of the night indicating that the baby kitten was having a hard time breathing because she was choking it what the oh i told her to take it to the er er based and we met there uh he would spend about a week in the ER. They were unable to save them. I'd spend nearly nine grand trying to keep this sweet cat alive and ultimately they wouldn't be able to. Nine grand.

02:37:01 - 02:37:02 | Speaker 4:

I know. What the fuck?

02:37:03 - 02:37:15 | Speaker 5:

We would go to counseling during this time period for a few months after. No progress would be made. She would continue to accuse me of doing sultry and sneaky things with no evidence and I would have no way to show that I had not in fact done these things.

02:37:15 - 02:37:24 | Speaker 4:

Exile says she's attractive. She had dyed red hair at the time. that is when women go through their crazy phase they dye their hair red yeah there's like a

02:37:24 - 02:37:33 | Speaker 5:

there's a semi-psychological thing where like uh what i forget what it's called like poisonous frogs they are different they're like bright colors yeah you said that before it was very

02:37:33 - 02:37:38 | Speaker 6:

intriguing when they chicks like dye the hair these neon colors or bright colors in general

02:37:38 - 02:38:04 | Speaker 5:

it's a sign that they're toxic yeah they know they're toxic yeah they're warning you they're warning you but i don't and that's a spiritual law like you've been warned physiognomy physiognomy yeah it's a god's nothing but fair um you did see the hair didn't you yeah but i mean most people don't again like do you know you're doing the thing do you like you see it you think it's weird but are you able to accurately correlate it to what the message is did you send me a meme where

02:38:04 - 02:38:08 | Speaker 6:

it said rapunzel rapunzel let your hair down like she dropped it down and it was like bright blue

02:38:08 - 02:38:26 | Speaker 4:

and pink and the guy and the dude's like never mind yeah yeah specifically pandafly said it fake fake red hair that fake red like that bright red unnatural fucking like the Benny Baneha Elohim sign that is like run well shout out Heather Lynn

02:38:26 - 02:39:00 | Speaker 5:

once yeah she's great once she moved out the house the car batteries would never die again the sulfur smell would never return wow continue to go to counseling but ultimately nothing would change during that time of counseling she create a fake Instagram account send herself messages from it and this account would be posing as someone else I supposedly had an affair with oh she's catfishing you with her I had no idea who it could be she would confront me about it would say I must know who this is I obviously didn't I was up to no such thing I've known chicks

02:39:00 - 02:39:13 | Speaker 4:

that have done that kind of shit too not to me but I've known chicks that have done that creating accounts trying to lure their husband or their boyfriend into fucking cheating and shit and then just looking like an asshole when it never came to pass

02:39:13 - 02:39:59 | Speaker 5:

since the entire suicide threat happened my prayer life had changed i had always been a believer but in general my life was comfortable enough that my prayers were simple my childhood was rough in a lot of ways but nothing insurmountable i would pray before bed but i had stopped going to church when she entered my life a couple days after this whole fake instagram account thing happened i had a dream i was in an area that looked like my house but clearly wasn't it was shaped the same but made out of large stones didn't have a roof and was damp and had plant uh had plants growing all over the walls it was turning i was turning the corner to walk down the hallway when an entity grabbed my arm damn it didn't hurt but it was a threatening grab but

02:40:00 - 02:40:40 | Speaker 4:

a leading grab it was cloaked in gray its face was covered and all it said said was it's a trap and i immediately woke up gasping i assumed it was referring to the instagram fiasco i blocked the account of the two places she worked and sure enough i can no longer find this other account i assumed it meant that it must be linked huh oh if you block an account if there's linked accounts to it it'll also automatically block those oh okay that makes sense i confronted her about it and she admitted it circling back this entity of the same voice as one i encountered 15 years earlier hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on atma said we

02:40:40 - 02:40:52 | Speaker 5:

all got to go hug our wives after this story why is that not pretending to be a man now atma the the wife atma is a guy atma's a wife atma's not she called here when she sent the fog machine And I talked to her on the phone.

02:40:53 - 02:42:18 | Speaker 4:

Atma's wife called here. They both use the same Atma account. At my husband. I'm going to meet her in person. At my wife. At Atma Enterprises. We're going to have proof. Atma LLC. Atma Enterprises. Atma Worldwide. Go read his new book about Timothy Albarino, The Albino Rhino. It's very good. Oh, that's right. Yeah, Albino Rhino. Circling back this entity of the same voice I encountered 15 years earlier when I myself had attempted suicide. I was depressed, overweight, and being abused in a relationship that I couldn't get out of. You seem like a bit of a cuck. You got a lot of emotional issues, Exile. I hope you're fucking better. He's been through a lot. Real ass nigga now. Yeah. Hey. We don't say that anymore. Hey. I'm sorry. Sorry, James. I took a bunch of painkillers and slammed a half a bottle of vodka, figuring it would do the job. Shit. He did? Yeah. He was sleeping for roughly 18 hours. At the end of this 18 hours, I felt like I was just floating in a black void. Dreaming, I assume. Fucking exile says I'm fine, thanks. All right, cool. We're the worst. Dreaming, I assume. Suddenly, I felt something grab my arm and simply say, you're not done yet. Turn me around and push me up. I immediately woke up gasping. It felt like I had been thrown out of this other realm

02:42:18 - 02:42:46 | Speaker 3:

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02:42:53 - 02:43:24 | Speaker 1:

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02:43:24 - 02:44:18 | Speaker 4:

She would tell me she hated me and that I'd ruin her life. I would move away, keep my address secret so that she couldn't find me. That's probably why he didn't want us to read his name. Oh, ooh. My bad. Shit. Well, if you see anybody with red hair, just pack up all your shit and move to another house. Amen. again um she continued to cyberstalk me and anyone i spoke to especially if they were female it didn't matter if they were married or not she assumed any female was up to no good if they somehow interacted with me she would track down phone numbers of two of my old friends who were girls you know what maybe she she might not have had like a the grippy maybe this guy's just laying it down there must be a problem with you dog exile's got a fat dick whoa no that's not what i said that he knows how to use well that he knows how to maybe okay i don't know what did you do good for you exile he said yeah okay shout out okay shout out to exile and his fat dick whoa no

02:44:18 - 02:44:26 | Speaker 5:

david please the christian show yeah james would not be pleased sorry james see atma said oh i

02:44:26 - 02:45:00 | Speaker 4:

can't talk to exile anymore that's because she's a chick ah or that's because he's gay oh more likely asking them how long they've been messing around with me these are the girls uh they would both be completely confused both being in long-term relationships and having no idea what she's talking about i've known chicks that have done this to homies of mine like i've known this story is yeah familiar after this we would not speak for roughly six months when my mother suddenly had a stroke nah i'd be driving back and forth every two weeks across the country to take her take care of my mom and continue to work my ex-wife

02:45:00 - 02:45:31 | Speaker 3:

found out and would call and say how sorry she is ask how she could help then would slowly wedge herself back into my life my mom would lose her ability to speak coherently thank god the only remaining effect of the stroke would be aphasia difficulty with reading i have that sometimes i can't read it and speech with speech and confusion of words okay uh but one thing she's uh she would say clearly not long after this is do not speak to her. She is a witch. She is also paranoid schizophrenic.

02:45:31 - 02:45:33 | Speaker 1:

The mom was saying this about the chick?

02:45:34 - 02:45:40 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. I mean, it's kind of the same as a redundancy there, but I don't disagree. It's almost like the mom

02:45:40 - 02:45:48 | Speaker 1:

kind of went astray for a while, got a little wild, but she had one last thing to say, like, hey, man, I know I might have been a little crazy, but listen

02:45:48 - 02:45:56 | Speaker 2:

to this. Uh-oh, Panda Fly has admitted she is the crazy chick story. said everybody's got a crazy chick story and Panda Fly is a fuel. No, Panda's not crazy.

02:45:56 - 02:46:09 | Speaker 3:

Not anymore. She was, though? Exile says, I wouldn't believe her and I chalk it up to my mom having been exposed to so much witchcraft back in Puerto Rico that she'd see it everywhere and everything. And her own experience with her mother-in-law

02:46:09 - 02:46:21 | Speaker 2:

being a literal schizophrenic. That's literally me, though. Like, everything now is witchcraft, iniquity, and demonic. A lot of it is, and some of it isn't. I don't know. I haven't found the ones that aren't, though.

02:46:21 - 02:46:54 | Speaker 3:

she's a witch burner at the stake it would turn out later that she would have lied about the neighbors during this whole firearm incident what they said to her, their interactions, etc I would be stupid and eventually forgive her led her back into my life multiple times to my own peril I always said that if this event is what it took to bring her to Christ, then I'm fine with it she would claim she is deep in the Bible now attending church, praying to God all the time no man can know another's heart so I have always wanted to believe but I just don't know

02:46:54 - 02:46:57 | Speaker 2:

that's rough that's a hard thing

02:46:57 - 02:47:18 | Speaker 3:

it's not your business we've become friends again over the last year and I've always felt that the marriage that marriage is a one and done thing so maybe I should try again and maybe it was my fault the whole time that I didn't do enough bro what? I'm going back to grippy the grippy theory that if I just loved her more

02:47:18 - 02:47:35 | Speaker 2:

yeah it seems like more like you're simping for her now well i mean look if she's she's uh deep in the bible attending church praying to god all the time like that's i mean that's exactly what you want for anybody especially your wife if i just cared more i could have handled the entire

02:47:35 - 02:47:58 | Speaker 3:

thing differently maybe maybe there's a there's an aspect of you not caring but i don't know well let's see what do they say oh no i'm not gonna read that that's uh it's 90 piss okay a couple months back she randomly said hey isn't this the name of your ex-girlfriend? I'm like yeah why? She's like oh she's looking at my stories constantly on Facebook

02:47:58 - 02:48:01 | Speaker 2:

what should I do? Wait wait who is this happening to?

02:48:01 - 02:48:03 | Speaker 3:

This is the ex-wife

02:48:03 - 02:48:06 | Speaker 1:

saying it to the dude. Now they're friends a couple months ago.

02:48:06 - 02:48:17 | Speaker 2:

Stop being friends bro. Wait wait a couple months ago she randomly said who randomly said this? His ex-wife. Oh isn't this the name of one of your ex-girlfriends?

02:48:17 - 02:48:32 | Speaker 3:

doing the same old shit i have no idea why she would be doing that oh you haven't been talking to her no i haven't been talking to her i haven't spoken to her in years she's like okay thank you very bizarre interaction but i'd mostly forget about it and chalk it up to the same paranoid

02:48:32 - 02:48:38 | Speaker 1:

behavior as before and i'd continue to be friends with her jeez okay juan i mean at some point hey

02:48:38 - 02:48:51 | Speaker 2:

hey exile we don't want to get this guy in trouble juan fucking damn it dude this is not you have any guy friends well you have any dude friends i mean if you did they'd be telling you

02:48:51 - 02:49:12 | Speaker 3:

hopefully this is not good what would have been our anniversary this year i told her we could take a road trip man how are you gonna throw her off a canyon throw her off a canyon i would head to where she is like an accident we would drive out to a bike park in the same area in which we used to own land i had brought land and started designing a house for us to build in the mountains

02:49:12 - 02:49:20 | Speaker 1:

does he always say brought I just noticed this recently when he's trying to say bought he says brought can you read it again

02:49:20 - 02:49:24 | Speaker 2:

brought is bringing bought is purchasing whatever

02:49:24 - 02:49:36 | Speaker 1:

he always says brought when he's trying to say bought oh you're saying top is saying I had brought see what I'm saying it's just like woman or them I've only realized that in the last week or two

02:49:36 - 02:49:58 | Speaker 3:

oh shit we'd grab a pizza it would be fun and she always wanted to learn how to ride the sort of terrain that I do on bikes. Very interesting fact about me, Top Lobster, I can swim. You love bikes? I can't ride a bike. Really? I think I can. I never learned how. You see a scar on my finger? You can't ride a bike? No, I never ride bikes.

02:50:00 - 02:50:26 | Speaker 2:

but can you i don't know i won't i i was learning when i was learning to ride a bike the first time like we took the training wheels off yeah across the street from my house you know the house i showed you across the street where they shoot guns ping ping ping projects was across the street yeah some knick-knock tied visible wire from one light post to the next and i didn't see it and it it burned this this thing into my hands and all i could remember was like if it was like a couple inches higher goes across my neck your throat i don't think it'll cut my throat but i'd

02:50:26 - 02:50:45 | Speaker 1:

have like a line across my throat you know i got this scar i got this car driving driving my bike in the ghetto yeah i mean i hit a gate at full speed like nobody asked on mushrooms in the middle of the night one time me and armando were at delvalon came full speed down this hill and hit a gate full speed but i'm not gonna not ride a bike i just didn't i rode a scooter hold on what's

02:50:45 - 02:51:11 | Speaker 2:

up nance oh nothing why did you even ask her because she unmuted her mic and i could hear her grumbling in japanese oh all right whatever nancy so so you really can't ride a bike or swim i know i can swim good i swim better than david that's not true i watched him get carried to shore by a wave but i don't think that that's swimming i swim i swim i swim good i don't ride

02:51:11 - 02:51:16 | Speaker 1:

a bike that's a fair point yeah i didn't see him swim at all no i saw him walk around in waist

02:51:16 - 02:51:22 | Speaker 2:

deep water and then ride a wave back i was watching taught them how to swim uh i don't grandpa i don't

02:51:22 - 02:51:28 | Speaker 1:

The only thing is I got to meet Jess at this appointment. I got to leave in like five minutes. All right, so we're going to wrap it up. Well, no, you don't have to. No, we're nearly done. I got to wrap it up.

02:51:28 - 02:52:17 | Speaker 2:

No, we actually are almost nearly done. Good job. Get to do this. We'd grab a pizza. It would be fun. And as she always wanted to learn how to ride that sort of terrain on a bike, I thought it would be fun. But it would end up being a reminder that I would just be putting myself in the same situation as before. She'd yell at me at the bike park, scream at me, accuse me of not handling the situation well, whatever it was. It was stressful. After all this, she would occur. She would flip her attitude and say how much fun she had. She's crazy. She would press me sexually and ignore clear boundaries I denied before. Okay. This is why he's in it. Over the last two years, I've been continually praying and asking God for specific clarity and guidance. What kind of clarity do you need? Run, bro. This is like the guy praying with the girl just trying to grind on him.

02:52:17 - 02:52:19 | Unknown:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:52:19 - 02:54:59 | Speaker 2:

that meme where it's like she's showing her ass and i would say he didn't get clarity when he typed this out crazy and i would just say uh no i don't uh wait i often feel like i hear the holy spirit say but you already have it and i would say no i don't like this can oh my god like the holy spirit is saying like you already know what to do yeah just don't fuck her yeah yeah leave stop continuing to pray sure enough i have another dream oh there you go he said very much got clarity when i typed it matt with several t's with the proper amount of t's let this be a lesson to all you two tiers out there uh we like five or more i have another dream and the entity says you should check the source and i wake up i'm like yeah uh i guess i will message this person i haven't spoken to in like eight years and see what happened so i do that this morning i say hey sorry to bother you and this is probably weird but my ex-wife said you were watching her stories on facebook is there anything that prompted that she responds a few hours later and said yeah I clicked on her profile to see who it was because this random person messaged me and said they forgave me and they didn't hate me even though you said I was a terrible person and I'm like uh what and she's like yeah I get a random message from someone I've never seen before never contacted and I'm like what's the content of this message as soon as I read the message I heard the voice say I told you already I told you you already had it and it just felt like a hammer crushing me yeah dude commentary was from someone else listening to my dumb ass story yo it is kind of crazy that like god cares enough to even like we are dumb and stubborn go ahead finish what you're saying no that's it we're just dumb and stubborn and it's like we want what we want we want what we want we want that grippy and uh the red hair i get it dude he wants the marriage he wants like the yeah you want a good wife you want to do the right thing you don't want to abandon somebody who says they're coming to christ like sometimes you want a podcast studio in leesburg you can't have it maybe you can have something close in another coffee shop that's kind of all right you're gonna get a chick who's a natural redhead but doesn't have a grippy hey and that's okay it's not always about that that's not the main thing that you know is important here yeah sometimes you settle sometimes you settle but there's other things that are good the reason we didn't get involved we don't get involved in witchcraft among many others, is because the spirits tied to it are possessive. They're the hardest ones to break ties with. They leave marks on you that you don't forget. So if your mom or anyone you know has a discernment and says, hey, you should probably stay away, you better listen.

02:55:00 - 02:55:52 | Speaker 8:

if you get involved even in a tiny bit of the craft you can be in the world in a world of trouble especially if you are naturally sensitive in the spirit i yep he's 100 right and i think that's part of this yeah you got involved with somebody that is doing witchcraft in a way he's spiritually open because of his pentecostal past and is like just being a christian and also naive but you're dragged in it yeah and it's it had a hold on him and it's like that hold if you can't identify it specifically you don't know what it is so at the end of it i'm a grade a hard r retarded for continually letting this person in my life that's all right man hoping that they truly have turned to christ even though they continue to exhibit destructive behaviors turns out the lord grants us clarity in a variety of ways even when we refuse to pay attention yo but how great is god though i was in the gate program that's right how great is god though

02:55:52 - 02:56:31 | Speaker 7:

to be like you already have it and then you get this dream and it's like you should check the source and then you check the source and it's like yeah you already had it it was already there yeah you just needed to press on this a little bit and there's your answer i mean that's huge that's such an unbelievable uh the ways that god will speak to us um are not limited to scripture even you know it's like they'll use a pastor who's uh giving a gay kind of sermon and asking you to do Blue's Clues shit or you know God will use fucking Facebook and say hey go check the source you already got it

02:56:31 - 02:56:50 | Speaker 5:

they bred with daughters of men and they will do it again the end is written in the book in the pages they foreseen that's fine

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