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it told me am i gonna watch an intro i'm not watching an intro dude i'm going like as soon as it clicks i want to go right to it you're not doing the intro okay no but let's finish that conversation we're live what conversation no on straight bible i want no more intro i love your intro and your graphics and the work you put into it i just don't like to sit through an intro dude that's hurtful i know that's why i wanted to be my i didn't just want to text you last night but last night i was like i gotta tell top you i don't want i don't want any more intros like you

gotta go right into the show well technically this is a nephilim death squad show right now

No, I know, but I'm just saying with Straight Bible. So, oh, but even on NDS, you just went straight in, huh? Did we? Well, it's a really important show.

Well, this is an NDS show labeled as Straight Bible. And the only reason I did that is because I really liked the way I made the background. That background does crush. Okay. All right.

I love when you love your work. Like the lights you just did, you're so happy about that. They do look good. Pat myself on the back.

All right. So let's talk about what's been going on because there's been crazy, crazy supernatural stuff.

you want to talk about david first uh no okay the most supernatural thing about the rage oh wait

he's calling is i miss him like i didn't miss him the first couple days but now i miss all right we'll talk to him this is going to be a more serious and focused episode after the first

five minutes okay let's go david what's up man we're live oh shit is that true hey hey stop cursing let's go did you tell everybody that i got fired or is it is that still something we haven't released to the public well now they know okay i don't know i was calling you to talk about

severance um uh there will be no severance uh we're just going to be moving on moving forward

so stop okay just tell him he says hi i want to get it out of the way i guess i want to get it out of the way you guys can you just i'm on my way to get the i'm gonna leave to get the truck

and we'll see what happens they said it's done i don't know what that means but we're gonna find

let's go we're just so we're talking about crazy spiritual warfare and things that have been happening spiritual healing and i was like i guess we should talk about david because i know david's gonna come with uh a spiritual story well remember before we before i left and i was telling you about

a dream and then we got interrupted because we were going to be on uh on somebody's show and they showed up into the studio so i i stopped telling you about the dream yeah oh yeah well Well, Matt doesn't remember, so he can stop making that up. But after the second half of it that I didn't get to tell you was weird and felt exactly like witchcraft. In fact, that's what I woke up saying. And then I got my dick kicked in with my truck. But if that's all they could do, then...

Is the Jeep driving?

Apparently. It's all done. And I'm going to go pick it up real soon. So I think so. I think we're good to go.

I'm going to say something slightly, not slightly, but incredibly feminine. It's going to be offensive. It's very embarrassing, but I feel like it does need to be said.

Nat's being nasty today. You know, we started the show, and he goes, I love the work you've done for the show and all the effort you put in with the graphics, but I don't want to play an intro anymore. I hate intros. You see how he is?

Oh, yeah. Well, if you're about to confess to me how much of an integral part of the team I am and how much my talent is missed, I know that, and you don't have to say that. Go ahead. You can say that.

okay so uh let's balance this out monday tuesday wednesday i was like this is so nice yeah it's so clean in here it's so organized there's nothing laying around today i had an overwhelming sense of like i really miss this guy i'd say burps when is he coming back have

decreased by 97 burps yeah farts 65 cleanliness has increased by 97 yes for sure and but the

The listenership has decreased by a corresponding 90%. Substantially. It's accurate. So hurry up and go. Everybody misses you. Everybody's asking about you. But that was a very bizarre feeling. And I was like, what is this? I don't know if I like this. What is this feeling? I kind of miss him.

We have someone in the chat. Michael. I'm very upset. I've been laying around.

I don't do my body. He's not going to hear this.

Michael Manifesto says, never buy a G.

At least not a newer one. 90 to 2006 were the last good ones. He's not going to hear that, dude. He can't hear it. You know what it is? God has put a block on his ears. He doesn't care. He doesn't care.

He wants to ball out. The Jeep looks cool. He's going to look cool at the beach. He doesn't care.

I'm going to send you a picture, right? Because even though it was a piece of shit and it wasn't doing well, I took a picture of it this morning in the sunlight, and I said, fuck, man.

He loves it.

It's a good-looking heap of shit.

He loves it. Okay, I'm giving you back the top. I got to go get it from the thing. All right, never repeat what I just said.

I didn't know what to pay attention.

I've learned to tune you out when you speak, even if it's nice.

All right, David, you're messing up our show. No, you're not. You make it better.

All right, so that's spiritual warfare topic number one down.

Topic number two is that, you know, right after I celebrated my 24-year anniversary with Jessica, uh maybe if you remember we had a 19 year wedding anniversary in uh june well i i know this is a little yeah i guess i'm going all chick stuff today actually which i'm fine with that like i always celebrate the day we met we met on july 3rd she was uh i was partying with her uncle i came in off the boat i was trashed i was on ghb and drinking the red dogs and uh she was in the kitchen making uh pasta salad with her mom and uh i was just with her mom and her sister and so um so i you know i wasn't saved at the time i just saw her from behind i was like damn girl and then we were just in love ever since dude like from that day so like i celebrate july 3rd got her like a really nice piece of jewelry we'll say because i love her she means a lot to me and then right in the middle of all that like a day or two before that she's she started to have like

a dizzy like a dizzy thing you had weird stuff going on here too right yeah just just i mean

yeah more than normal more than right but we both have stepped away from it a little bit like that's the thing is we're kind of trying to step away from it a little bit and uh so she started to do the dizzy thing i don't you know sore throat uh runny nose like whatever even fever it's like whatever they want to know what you mean by piece of jewelry i got her something nice they just it's suspicious i agree okay she she's like um she's like one of these old-fashioned chicks she's like a chick that could be placed anywhere in the timeline she's like a timeless chick so

she likes uh a lot of time travel you guys do a lot of time travel uh we're not really going to

get into that right now but she could exist anywhere in the timeline and uh she likes the old-fashioned like the gold coins like the small gold coins you put those on the necklace and those are rad dude oh cool yeah like those are very rad yeah yeah because i love her yeah all right coinboy looks out for him for me he's a he's a good man so anyway so she's doing the the like very uh you know standing up driving anything is making her dizzy i don't know what's going on with it but i don't like dizzy you know what i'm saying that just seems like a like a bizarre thing yeah we go to somebody who specializes in vertigo we go out on the boat over the weekend and she's fine on the boat we're like rocking on the boat snorkeling getting we're getting scallops all weekend we're snorkeling we're getting scallops she feels great she thinks she's over it get home no dude dizzy dizzy we go to somebody who specializes in vertigo they put her on this thing and it goes it's like a thing that tap tap tap uses like sound and like a vibration to kind of i don't know not a doctor but it's like the atlas the c1 the something's out of line and so when it like pinches the thing then the blood flow is not right something to that extent yeah we do that she's very she's like okay cool we're working on it but doesn't feel good the next day or the next day then i see my boy thomas dude from the gym dude's a savage too he's a healer i know this dude's a healer because like uh he saw me before i didn't really know him so bro my shoulder's messed up i always see you like doing interesting stuff he goes do you mind if i like touch it so he like touches it does some stuff gives me like two stretches boom my shoulders healed dude come to find out every like old guy in the gym has issues like right here with with the with the where the shoulder rotator cuff yeah so he's done that before other times i'll be like bro you're limp and bad bro he's like here you magnify it go yeah yeah go ahead he'll like adjust my leg and he's just a healer like some people are healers and i'm not i'm not talking about like they have like necessarily this supernatural gift of healing i'm not not saying that though but it's like something in them they are healing people like you could go you could go to doctor school and not be a healer you're just a doctor and you prescribe stuff and yeah you get the patient and you get the patient out you get the money but there's people that are healers so so i see him i said bro my wife's got this thing he's like dude bring her in he's like we'll just get you guys in after hours or whatever so we go in was it only yesterday yeah dude so she's been dealing with this for like a week

nancy thinks that you're taking uh amy thinks you're taking part in witchcraft

Nah

Why would you say that? I don't know. She's being real mean. Oh, no, no. She doesn't. No, Amy's kind of chill now. I'm not saying she likes me, but I'm saying she's got a little more neutral and she's saying like witchcraft maybe got at Jessica is what she's saying, which I get it. I get it where people could come to that conclusion. Maybe. Yeah. No, we're actually not. I don't think. I mean, I always love Amy. I think she means it. She's laughing now. No, she's. I feel like we're kind of a little bit more. See? Okay. I told you, dude. I think we're like buddies now. That's what I'm saying. This story is a lot more meaningful about like the love of Christ because everybody knows the history of me and Amy. And now they're like, you know what? Amy doesn't hate me. And maybe she was right about some of the stuff she said. I'm very terrible at cutting people off. I'm well aware of that. She's just very aware too. And says mean stuff about it, which is fine. I appreciate that. All right. That's your story. So I say, bro, can I get Jess in there? He says, yeah, bring her in. We'll do it. We'll do the thing after hours. We go in.

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doctor because this dude's not a doctor he's like a helper i don't know what the word is i don't know what it is he's a high level healer but he's not the doctor we go in bro it's an indian dude you know i like indian people like right from the jump because zach poonan's from bangalore he's my favorite preacher and so right away i like this guy i'm not sure where he's at with the hindu maybe i don't know what's it smell like in the office no no he's very aware of that he says at lunchtime he doesn't eat indian food he only eats at night because he doesn't want to stink up the office or the gym in the afternoon like he says this is a good dude i'm like okay interesting good good he gets a hold of jess's neck he starts like doing some stuff she's like ah ah you know like it hurt he's like doing this he's like pushing he says yeah yeah this is completely out doesn't take an x-ray doesn't take an x-ray doesn't use a machine doesn't do anything starts like moving stuff like this pushing here going like this got her arm up hold arm doing things and he goes okay look to the right she gets like teary-eyed dude she's like it's not i don't i'm not dizzy he's like okay look to the left she goes i'm not i'm not dizzy and then he like pulls out this thing and i don't know it's like her nail file thing is what it looks like but it's all metal and he starts just like scraping the bone she used to get these uh really bad headaches like at the bottom of the like the top of the neck bottom of the um skull bad headaches he said oh yeah that's he like identified all the things everything that she said he goes yeah that's blah blah blah she said this yeah that's blah blah he starts going like this and he just like she's like ah ah and then like done he's like okay get up and walk around dude she's like teary now she's like super teary she's walking around she's like i can't believe this like i thought i was just kind of i didn't live like this yeah i didn't know how long this was gonna go like because we're we're not like sick we don't get sick and we don't also don't go to doctors because then he's like why didn't you come here sooner i was like bro we don't do the whole doctor thing and like to be honest it's a physical therapist i'm like physical therapy is not even like on my radar that's not even a thing to me like i don't i don't know but now bro i will like i took them gallons of um i took them dirty chives i took them tons of pastries i took them just sent them with jam and with uh energy bites and got them gift cards and they didn't even charge us like that was the thing when we came in after hours like not gonna charge us i was like dude there's no like what's the name of the um of the the place why would you do that why wouldn't you ask me before we go i don't know i figured i figured you'd know because you went there no i'm like uh not necessarily great at that i don't know he's just right here dude but yeah if anybody has like a this is a dude so you say like yeah why didn't god just heal her like you guys know god like you and jess know god you guys are tight with god i don't know i think sometimes uh god does a thing to get you in cahoots with with the guy i wouldn't have met this guy any other way come to find out he's got the line we start talking about zach poon and he's from bangalore gonna find out this dude's like born in india and was raised raised pentecostal he's got a lion and the lamb

painting on the wall that's beautiful i said bro what's that he said yeah it's kind of a sad story it's a patient of mine that's got alzheimer's she comes in and sees it and she goes oh what a beautiful painting and i tell her every time you painted that isn't that wild dude i would love to have this guy on the show dude well yeah i don't know if he's down or whatever i don't i don't really know him but i'm gonna try to like uh keep in touch with him i mean yeah he can come but just tell him you know indian food after lake center for rehab physical therapy i'm telling you dude like i would travel to like a like a person

as a healer it's like so worth it dude it's it's there's no comparison to like somebody with a great education but doesn't care dude people who are healers is is like that's so valuable so like i feel i was like sweetie for us to know this guy now this is this is so good lake center for rehab yeah lake no lake center for rehab physical therapy the villages florida spanish plains you're probably at the maybe there's another one this one spanish plains yeah i want to see it

because uh that's just bizarre like center for rehab this one here i know we were kind of walking

out yeah let's look i think it's all five star reviews jess went in and did the fight yeah huh dude the guy is a healer bro like like jess was like this is this is crazy that uh he didn't do he didn't he didn't use one machine he didn't do an x-ray he knew everything about my spine he knew everything about my neck just from like touching yeah and that's like what yeah that's you would think that's what people are learning if they go into like medical school

they learn how to be a healer no i think there's a there's like a comparison in music as well a lot of people that go into it they learn the theory and it's very uh like nuts and bolts one plus one but the people who never learn it learn it by like hearing and internalizing the sound and then they they create things rather than replicate things so it's the same aspect there yeah dude we had

uh that's exactly what bennis the menace said yesterday about cemetery school that they just like they're just like teaching you these things but it's like these are the topics you're not really learning how to how to read the bible and learn the bible there you're being told what to think about the bible right right yeah it's all all this just all the world rather than how to think all the world is like that yeah everything in the world that's why the bible is like very clear do not love the world you're not part of the world because this place here that

that you found is like this place is every other place in the villages when you pull this up like i you go into here yeah it's right it's right it's literally right outside of the coffee shop this looks like the entrance to the hospital and what you're going to get there i mean you can it's just western medical stuff but inside here you found some sort of gem that's bizarre that's but

but that's what i'm saying is like my guy thomas from the gym and he's tatted up he's like neck tats all sleeve tats like he's badass in the gyms dude just a cool ass dude i would have never guessed he was like a gentle like healing guy i would never guess that but i've just been vibing with him at the gym and talking to him and then i realized he was a healer but now i know it's from sitting under this doctor that's why he's a healer you got to get that guy on the show maybe they both carried it maybe he carried it but it was never unlocked till he sat under this doctor and then they have a rad because he was in there for the whole thing they had a rad uh relationship dude the two of them they were saying stuff back and forth c1 a2 this they were just saying all this stuff back and forth and he's like nodding his head going yeah it just was a neat thing dude and that never happens to me typically to go in like a american medical building and something

like that happens yeah and you you went in like after hours too right yeah that's crazy yeah that's because we saw just she came in here and like she walked through the door and she was like no she's been like that for a week like this and she was scared to turn her head because she's been

like it's been bad dude yeah not only that especially for a chick and then you're kind of stuck at the house you know people don't like that dude that stuff can get weird quick man when you're just at the house too much yeah and she's doing i mean dude she's making us like super good dinners and doing everything she can in the house but she's like

it's only a week in a figure eight so yeah you know imagine the people that gets locked in their

house and they you know they get in this downward spiral and they don't get out dude imagine what that does to them she told me that happens in new york anyway in the winter because you don't see

the sun yeah yeah it does yeah which i thought it's like a seasonal depression and everybody

just finds it normal like no this sucks dude i thought she was making it up i just thought it was like oh yeah another problem you know everybody's got a problem and then we went there and i was there for like 10 days and didn't see the sun for 10 days upstate new york right yeah yeah it's even worse up there i was like they're like what do you want to do today we normally go on adventures if we're on vacation i was like i just want to lay in bed i don't even leave weird man i only ever live in sunny places though i'm not gonna live in some place where it's like i love cloudy days because i never get cloudy days but 10 in a row no way dude yeah yeah when

when it gets cold over here it's kind of like a relief a little bit you're like oh that's nice when it's cold in new york you don't want that because it's going to be cold for six months but this is not what we came here to talk about today you want to get right into it yeah i think we should um i i brought it up to you i was like yo man your guy own benjamin has been trashing I mean...

king david in a very like a hilarious fashion and you're like yeah i don't know what he's getting i'm like well owen does a thing where he chooses a topic he digs deep on it he finds the funny and then he continues to like when he's in it he's like scratching all the walls to see how much he can like bring out and then based on people's how much they lose it if if you lose then he's gonna keep going if you lose it if the closest people to him lose it i feel like he thinks that he's on to something and i think he might be right he is dude some of these stories i've seen him bring

up i'm like yeah that's a crazy story that story now for me it's different because i'm like these crazy stories like uh i think he said something to the extent of like david didn't discipline his son so he ends up with a son who like rapes his sister and then david gets run out of town and david's son bones all of david's concubines on the roof in front of everybody and it's something to the extent of like if this happened in america like we'd get these people out of society and i'm like that's that's a great view of that that story's in the bible to me i look at that and say this proves the bible is true like if you're just making a book about religion and this is one of the key characters in your so-called religion you're not putting that story in the book dude yeah there's that's a horrific story there's a zero percent chance you're putting that story in the books you say well then why is that story in the book of your religion called christianity because it's not a book about a religion called christianity it's the story of reality yeah the reason that story is in the bible is because it happened so there are things that i think he gets

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Something like that. I'm like, alright. You got that right. This is brutal. But there's an understanding to the rest of the story and the rest of the book. sure what led to this some other things i'm like i don't think you got that completely right

um but how is he even close dude this guy has a profound mind like i was i'm only in like the beginning of chapter three how to slay a wizard yeah and so i was chilling at the house just kind of waiting for you to get back to me and uh i was reading it to jess and bella i was just i was like i want you guys to hear this real quick and i looked over at them as i was reading it and they but they're both like this what did you read just chapter just the beginning of chapter three where he's exposing like how the spells work and like bella bella was like that yeah dude she liked it

i was like sweetie i hope you don't get offended you better be careful no she's got to be careful because that is the that's why they can't have him talk right right i don't i don't want to like say whatever like what persuasion anybody's from but if if he's talking and you're and you're perceptive to it that means that whatever indoctrination you've been under before didn't work well it was just it was light shit and it's gonna fall off if you if you keep talking to this

guy you keep listening to him yeah he's just saying like um how to manipulate people it's all the same whether it's like politicians salesmen drill sergeants hypnotists it's all the same and then uh he gets into this uh he says like look at the language around conflict Like when one side takes people, they're called hostages. When the other side takes people, they're called prisoners. A hostage is an innocent. A prisoner is a criminal. Same situation, two completely different emotional responses produced entirely by word choice. Nobody even notices it happening because the process is so fast that you don't stop to ask, wait, did these people actually commit a crime? Or did someone just call them prisoners because it's more convenient? This one got her heart. Take the word adopt. You adopt a child. Sounds beautiful. but how much did you pay? $30,000? So you bought a child. Yeah. No, I adopted a child. Okay. But the money changed hands and a child changed homes. The word adopt does the work of making a financial transaction feel like an act of pure love. I'm not saying adoption is bad. I'm saying that the word is doing something beyond describing what happened. And you should notice when words do that that was when i looked up at him and they were like this this is what i was talking about

yesterday with the word manipulation when we were talking with stacks farmstead which was a fun episode go check that out uh what a great dude from pa man yeah yeah solid dude he bought a new microphone too after i was telling him like you need a new mic you help a lot of people i noticed

you tell them hey do this on speaker get this mic hey have you looked into that light oh

what about and they ask you for advice like in the beginning of the show too of like yeah what if they want if you want an echo and you're like hey do a b c and d and you're always like oh yeah that's no big deal i'm like yeah for most people that's a big deal like it's just second nature to you but most people are like i don't i don't get it yeah listen if i could help

out i'll help out but uh we were talking about the idea of manipulation with words i love when

i glaze you and you act like you don't like it that i just glaze you but you love it that i glazed you i love that go ahead sorry i'm just saying like you need help if somebody asks i'll

help you if you don't ask i'm not gonna help you we were talking about that as well with the idea of manipulation and words it was like well yes number one did they ask if they did ask then i can help how can i help you now with his uncle his uncle's a boomer and they were talking about a heavier subject like the nephilim and he's like he's not going to hear me he sent me an ai meme about how it's wrong and i was like well then you have to engage if you want to you have to deem if it's like you know worth your time or worth his time levels of manipulation that you're going to use to bring your point across but it's the same idea right adoption versus selling a kid one is done you you've adopted you've done a good thing but realistically you've brought a kid you know

yeah let's just use plain English which I which I love this because I just feel like that's where I always was with everything even as a salesman I was very blunt with people when I got there I would say look i'm here to get a purchase order like that's what my company pays me to do that

strips away the magic of it's intense it gets intense like a guy like dave rubin you probably know him he's a conservative jewish gay wait the guy that produced the beastie boys no no what no no different dave rubin no that that's a different oh that's rick rubin that's rick rick rubin you

sure i think so yeah that produced the beastie boy a bunch of other stuff too i think he hooked up with Jay-Z later, too.

Dave Rubin was touring with Jordan Peterson, and he has a big show, the Dave Rubin show, whatever, but he's kind of a phony. He's gay. He's a conservative. Gay like boys with boys, or gay like you're making fun of him? Married to a man. Married to a man. Homosexual is what I mean. And he's a conservative. We have to conserve old-school conservative values, right? Like Christianity, but also he's Jewish. But recently what he's done is here you go no no because it's interesting because he's jewish but judeo-christianity you see how that like these two things it was like oh but i'm gonna slip these titles so he'll use the word me and my husband adopted two boys and of course it's always boys and owen benjamin or anybody else will go you didn't adopt two boys you brought babies but yeah they yeah yeah and why

is it always male babies but like he said it's not bad to adopt but let's just call it what it is it's fine you bought a baby i know but people hate me for the same thing i'm like there's nothing wrong with going to the sunday show but let's stop with the shenanigans and call it what it is

it's a show i was listening to pastor rick and shout out that episode came out yesterday uh he did there was a freudian slip in the beginning there i don't know if you caught it oh how didn't you catch that what was it when he said uh yeah on sundays we do the show and then he goes i saw the service i know you saw that and i was just like damn it man i went like but because it's and it's not even like an admission he's not doing anything wrong but it is a show you know like we're practicing to do a show there's a whole entire production so it is a bit of a show right like but we call it a show we call it we call it sunday service what it is is a show so again the two words uh the same thing but one is softening the blow

if we could at least call it a show i think people would be more responsive though but then

what do you do in the situation here? And this is something that I'd ask Owen as well. You have, I don't know, let's say you have drag queens coming up to do a burlesque show. That's a show. And then you have Pastor Rick going up to bring forth the word of God. But before that, there's going to be music and there'll be a video and there'll be microphones and lights. They're both shows, but we have to create a distinction between a guy dressed as a woman showing off fake boobs versus like somebody's best effort to bring forth the word of god so i understand the uh the use of word i don't i don't like it that's why i said my even my own words are manipulation right like like we're gonna deal in manipulation from talking to your uncle about the nephilim i have to then manipulate because well first off you've already been manipulated like we got to start there you've been manipulated for years and years and years and now i'm here to try

to break the spell how do i do it yeah saying that bluntly to somebody is a great way to start that's that's heavy i don't even know if people can hear that but then you just say so do you want to do that or no because i'm good either way i'm good either way i don't care to break your paradigm i'm not telling you anything if you want it great if not i'll dust my shoes off and go

to another town but even so what i'm engaging in still is manipulation because i am still like my the words that I'm crafting to break that spell it's they're like

manipulating them in a way to do that sure any every anytime i tweet every word is well most of

the time the words are placed carefully i wish i was good at that i'm terrible i'm just like should send things and then i hit the send button i'm like you just voice the text and say i'm like that was a way more important text i shouldn't have just hit the send button so quick i should

have like clarified what i was saying i don't i don't do it every time but you're great at that when it's important and you have to craft a thing right you have to craft it now now we're talking about wordcraft, which is like spellcasting. This whole book is about that. Yeah. And that's

your big takeaway when you read this book is you're like, why can't, I would say 999,000 out of 100,000. But now I'm like, I don't know that there's one pastor in America that could articulate it the way this book articulates it, which is specifically of like how evil the world is and to not be seduced and deceived by the world. When the Bible goes to great lengths to say, don't be deceived by the world. The world is evil. If any man loves the world, the love of the father is not in him. It goes to great lengths to say like you adulterers and adulteresses know you not that the love of the world makes you an enemy of God. Okay. But that's not what we're taught in church. We're taught to cozy up with the world. This book exposes the world on a level that's like not exposed within the church system. So, so you, so it does make you say, okay, what's happening here? What's happening here? Which I'm already like that. I'm already like that with the do to own benjamin because as you know our destinies are um intermind intermingled if you will if oren benjamin doesn't get invited to brohemia and grove last year yeah you don't get kicked out of leesburg amen you don't get kicked out of leesburg you don't come into the standard

coffee shop i don't come to the standard coffee shop you never begged me to open up a podcast

studio here i don't beg you to open up a podcast studio and then i don't become the third member of nephilim death squad and then you get kicked out if i don't become the third member of nephilim death squad i don't ever get kicked out of nephilim death squad if i don't ever get kicked out of nephilim death squad i don't have the straight bible podcast so the whole thing goes back to owen benjamin in a weird way in a weird way you're like oh you're stretching like okay but i'm not gonna deny that like in a very bizarre way like that like the story of owen benjamin now has somehow caused this thing in my life and i just think it's god saying hey the banquet room

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has played and it's so gay to like go back and i'm like and glaze him but i'm just i don't want to i don't want to act like i'm glazing i'm just telling the truth of what happened a lot of people go oh there goes top he's doing his impression of owen benjamin is like i don't know the guy played a pivotal role in my thinking i remember uh 2017 what do you mean they say you're acting

like him well because i because i do things like him because his way is a very natural way it's a very it's almost like it's in us but we're afraid to like act like that it's because i think

what he's what he does is the way you're supposed to act yeah and you and you find out that like okay if i apply that principle over and over again and act like this it's going to be rough but the outcome eventually will be good and luckily enough i was able to watch him and watch him do all the mistakes and do all the things and then see him still end up like good he's i mean him moving to uh to idaho uh was a reason why like i'm in new york and i'm thinking i'm like i gotta get my own land you know i gotta get out of this hellhole like it's a spell that was broken that's one of the spells they're like i'm happy as a pig and shit look at me with my you know expensive house and i got a little patch of concrete and i'm in new york and people really like this area and was like yeah look at me and then you you realize like oh no this is not wealth this is actually a curse and that so he breaks that spell for me and it's like just finding him accidentally maybe on rogan or something and then i'm like let me listen to this guy did he go on joe rogan he was on rogan a lot like back in the yeah they're not buddies now though um something happened he was on rogan and uh he said he was actually on with this guy kurt metzger which is very funny and that episode like kind of went sideways because they were joking uh rogan was joking and owen was trying to make like a profound point he's like hey hey you guys are headed toward destruction like that kind of thing and i think that was a mistake

on owen's part to go serious because he's always playing the part of the joker because you're a comedian yeah yeah

The part of the joker is to expose it, but not so serious when you expose it.

Yeah, but the thing is, too, like it's a relatable part of the journey, which I've been on as well. When we're talking about manipulation and how are you going to talk to people when something just happened to you, you figure out Christianity, right? You figure out God. You're like, wait a second. God's like the thing. I got to tell everybody. And when they don't when they're like, yeah, all right. You're like, no, no, no, no. Sit down. You need to hear this. and it's like it becomes preachy and you get serious and it's not fun and it's not funny although it was still funny because his own benjamin but like i feel like he got a little he got more serious than he should have in that moment on that show not in general and that made it so that like whatever he was saying wasn't like the audience received the immediate audience didn't couldn't perceive it he was i could perceive because i was already like going that way but those guys know and then i don't know i guess at that point rogan was like blacklisted him he's like this guy can't come back on don't we don't want him anywhere near anything and uh he had

already been canceled from a bunch of other stuff yeah yeah okay so let's just get into the fact that he is king david like what like what other way would it be yeah what do you mean like let's what other better way if he is king david to get everybody off his track than to trash king david i mean i don't know i don't know the whole and i don't i don't know him like super good i saw him on tucker and i'm reading like you know three chapters into his book but i've read those chapters like slowly and taken it take a lot of thought about it produced a lot of extra thinking about a lot of other stuff dude like i've seen him in some snippets here and there i know some

stories you've told me i think that's why like i i called you immediately i was like yo have you seen what he said about david and it's like some people like oh well he's comparing the god of

well the chat was saying mean stuff too the chat that loves him was well they were getting mad

about it and i was like all right you gotta understand number one you have to let somebody like this like if it's been this long that you've been following him and you've been laughing with him and you've been learning with him you have to let somebody explore and i think i saw a post

where he said i have a lot of new people following me now so i just want to make this clear up this another thing and he just like he went hard dude to offend he's like if you're gonna get offended by this don't be here which is kind of what he was saying it's another thing that i learned jesus does that jesus does that he said you're gonna have to eat my flesh and drink my blood everybody left i'm not i'm not saying on benjamin jesus stop everybody no but it's it's when you

see somebody do a thing and sorry and you see that it makes sense you're like yeah i'm gonna so like check this out i'll make a tweet i'm like a while ago i made a tweet and it was like funny but it was like racist toward black people it was hilarious like a plane crashed and uh and then like black people started looting the plane there's like like white guy dying it it's funny i made it funny too i don't even remember what i said super viral super viral and because of that i get a bunch of white people following me and they're all like after black guy right you know and then i go the next thing i do after after i've amassed like 10 000 followers that i don't know clown the white guy oh it's white yeah it's white people time now i'm talking about how you guys have sex with your dogs your sisters are having sex with the family dog they lose it so that 10 000 gets right riddled down to seven i'm like good you guys could stay you know what

i mean so immediately immediately is what i do so that's kind of maybe like a safety net to make sure you don't let your crowd steer you you're like we're gonna get this up yeah but i'm saying old benjamin's like we're gonna get this clear up front that's right i got a lot of people here if you don't like this leave now you're not exactly so maybe he's in that process and that's why the stuff is like extra offensive right now that's right maybe i don't even find it that

offense i find i actually find something kind of funny even though i just i'm like some of them like i just disagree but i think it's funny i just i think there are differences and i maybe i'm fundamentally broken because yes most of the stuff i find we can agree on that i don't really find much offensive but i find a lot of things very funny so yeah yeah i don't know it's just

a weird line to walk so let's just look at it and prove that he is in fact king david like let's cut the bs yeah yeah he's actually king david that's what i'm saying he doesn't want everybody to figure out that he is king david so he's like i gotta get him off the trail let me trash king david so nobody ever assumes that figures out that i'm him i don't know i think i don't even

i don't think he understands that i think he i think he sees 100 doing that he doesn't want

anybody to figure out so he's trashing king david and doing a great job of it i mean in a sense then

you're trashing yourself but i think he sees a figure that is intensely uh interesting and he's

focused on it and i don't know that and he's like doing things he's tying in like things of like uh so-called uh the modern jews yeah yeah i guess the biting the wieners thing like that's not a bible thing funny but i guess that's a modern jews thing i don't i don't know okay okay so that's why i didn't understand that i was like what's he talking about let's let's talk about do you do you

want how do you want to do this you want to read from let's get into that when we get into that

let's just go right through the story let's just start in one sam 16 uh chapter 16 verses

Thank you.

All right, here we go.

And it came to pass when they were come that he looked on Eliab and said, surely the Lord's anointed is before him. Now, the backdrop is this is Samuel has been sent to the house of Jesse to anoint one of Jesse's sons as king of Israel. Okay, that's the backdrop. Samuel shows up. He looks at Eliab. He says, oh, surely this is the one. He's like a warrior. Yeah, he just looks good, man. Verse 7. But the Lord said unto Samuel, look not on his countenance or on the height of his stature because I have refused him for the Lord sees not as man sees for man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart. Okay. Then Jesse called Abinadab and made him pass before Samuel. And he said, neither had the Lord chosen this. Then Jesse said, made Shammah to pass by. And he said, neither had the Lord chosen him. Again, Jesse made seven of his sons to pass for before Samuel. And Samuel said unto Jesse, the Lord has not chosen any of these. And Samuel said unto Jesse, is this all your kids? Are all your kids here? And he said, well, there remains yet the youngest, and behold, he keeps the sheep. And Samuel said unto Jesse, send and fetch him, for we will not sit down till he comes here. And he sent and brought him in. Where are we going to do 13? And he sent and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and with all of a beautiful countenance and goodly to look to. And the Lord said, arise, anoint him for this is he. Then Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the midst of his brethren. And the spirit of the Lord came upon David from that day forward. So Samuel rose up and went to Ramah. Okay. So what are we saying? We're saying David doesn't even get invited, right? To his brother's anointing ceremony. They think one of his brothers is going to get anointed. They don't even invite him. why is that because he's a loner he's a loner he's a shepherd he's out there all alone he's almost like a and the bears in the chat will know what i'm talking about others may not he's almost like a pirate ninja with no crew can we stop with the ninja stuff okay time travel is pushing it but the ninja stuff this is on benjamin's own words he he wanted to be a pirate he wanted to be a ninja he used to make nunchucks he used to make nunchucks dude and like come home and play with the nunchucks you haven't read the book i read it he wanted to be a pirate and he wanted to be a ninja and he was a loner but he knew he needed a crew well guess what david was the same thing so how do you know david wanted a crew because later he does get a crew just keep that in your back pocket keep in your back we're just going to go through this we're just doing a bible study maybe you'll enjoy it maybe not but you're going to see there's a lot of interesting details uh in comparisons between these two guys lives okay let's look at uh we'll just keep going in chapter 16. We'll go 14 through 23. But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him. And Saul's servant said unto him, behold, now an evil spirit from God troubles thee. Let our Lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out

a man who is a cunning player on a harp. And it shall come to pass when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand and you shall be well. And Saul said unto his servants provide me now a man that can play well and bring him to me the banquet room at the

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sol's going to be representative of the system right like like the world system hollywood the entertainment industry whatever you want to call it at this point yeah yeah sol is the system the whole way through sol represents the system but not not initially though initially wasn't he just he's just a shepherd right right no this is where our story picks up though our story picks up he's already king he represents the king and the authority of that entirety of the system and the system says, yeah, hey, bring us the guy that plays the harp. And as you know, well, hold on, let's just, let's just read the resume. Saul said to his servants, provide me now a man that can play well and bring him to me. Then answered one of the servants and said, behold, I have seen a son of Jesse, the Bethlehemite that is cunning and playing and a mighty valiant man and a man of war and prudent in matters and a comely person and the Lord is with him. Wherefore Saul sent messengers on to Jesse and said, send me David that I saw, which is with the sheep. Remember, he's a loner. He's a loner.

loner. And Jesse took an ass laden with bread and a bottle of wine and a kid and sent them by David and to Saul. And David came to Saul and stood before him and he loved him greatly and he became his armor bearer. So it wasn't the main guy, right? But he was more of a guy in the background. The system said, Hey, come, come on in, come on in, Owen Benjamin. Yeah. You could be the writer. You're not really the main guy, but you're kind of in the background. You're an armor bearer, but you're welcome in our system. Come on. And Saul said to Jesse saying, let David, I pray thee, stand before me, for he has found favor in my sight. And it came to pass when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul that David took a harp and played with his hand. So Saul was refreshed and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him. So what are we saying? Well, one, he's like a true Renaissance man, right? He's a soldier, he's a warrior, but he also plays the harp, which some would argue is the most feminine instrument outside of the piano.

well it's the same i don't hold on i'll pull up a picture of a harp but it a harp is a piano um laid out oh they're actually fairly cheap and i assume the one that david was playing is a much smaller harp but like here you go you check this out so so he writes poetry he plays a harp this is what a harp looks like and if you lay it very feminine i think it's kind of

dope i do too i would love to see somebody play one yeah if you lay this down and you sit at the

front of it and attach it to ivory keys or attach hammers basically a piano it's no it's exactly a

piano okay so he so he's tending the sheep probably making cheese the sheep he's a loner the system will take him in the system will take him in as long as it's satisfying the system right uh along as long as he's playing the harp for the system they'll keep him around until they no longer need him. Let's just keep reading. So now we're in chapter 17, verses 38 and 40. Let's see here. This is when he goes up against Goliath, right? He takes on the giant. Which, what more masterful thing for Owen Benjamin to do to get people off the trail that he's King David than to say, like, he's the giant. this way nobody's on nobody's on to him right well he is a giant what are you gonna see him yeah but king david might have been a lot bigger than we think dude and maybe the giant was a lot bigger than we think yeah and saul armed david with his armor and he put a helmet of brass upon his head also he armed him with a coat of mail that's interesting right because uh if he was

his armor bearer right right like that's almost like an anointing like a switching of of there but what what he does next is also really interesting yeah he says i can't use what's

traditionally used keep reading and saul armed david with his armor and he put a helmet of brass on his head also he armed him with a coat of mail and david girded his sword upon his armor and he assayed to go he like he went a step or two and was like nah i'm not doing this he has said to go for he had not proved it and david said unto saul i cannot go with these for i have not prove them and david put them off him and he took his staff in his hand and chose him five five smooth stones out of the brook and put them in a shepherd's bag which he had even in a script and his sling was in his hand and he drew near to the philistine all right we all know the story he runs at the philistine he kills him i'm simply saying that this is just like owen benjamin going into hollywood and doing things completely different than what was traditionally done at that time he he's kind of saying no i got my own style so i'll say no no no this is what the industry does and he's doing things like punked yeah yeah that was way outside the norm at that time dude yeah yeah like he comes into the system the system says here use what we use he says no

i kind of got my own thing kind of got my own thing it's funny too one of the one of his oldest

jokes uh the starbucks one no no that's a great one dude where he puts penis on the cup they say

what's your name when he uh he does the lgbt joke the l's do this the b's do that the g's do this but the t's you know like they're doing and he makes that joke and like like it goes well but it doesn't get attention and then almost word for word years later on netflix somebody bites it you know bites it who dave chappelle but he gave him props for it he didn't no no no you don't have to do that owen benjamin is dead he's dead to that that world okay now but you're jumping the

story dude i'm just saying you don't have the story we just we have to watch these parallels

though their stories are running parallel this is why i this is why i was like yeah we have to do this because it's interesting i hope owen doesn't find it offensive it's just it's not gonna find it offensive it is it's a bit offensive it's like if somebody took your whole life and they just put it up on like under a microscope and they're like let's study this thing and see what no no no he's

gonna like he's gonna like he's gonna be like wow this dude's like took a look at my life and uh if he doesn't like it I'm sure he's gonna be like

well there is some interesting similarities with King David because sometimes you read a Bible passage and you really don't like a guy and come to find out it's like yeah because he's like me I have some of these qualities that happens to me anyway that was a me anyway okay watch this so now we're in we're moving into the next stage of the journey so we're in 1757 through 184 you got that picture yeah i do okay hold on where we have 50 set and as david returned from the slaughter of the philistines that's after he killed the giant and then uh he kills the giant and then the philistines run it's a it's a great uh he doesn't just win for himself owen benjamin spreads a victory for everybody right and as david returned from the slaughter of the philistines abner took him and

brought him before Saul well it's funny right so like I guess yeah at this point he does win for

everybody but there is for the system now as of right now he's still in the system the system

still loves him but within the system now there's there is division there because people now are

looking at at David right not yet not yet he's a nobody right now he's a nobody not after he kills him well we're getting to that brought him and brought him before saul with the head of the philistine in his hand so here comes this young guy david he shows up to the system he's got the head of the philistine in his hand dude he's just he's just holding his head the system is like okay damn what do we do with this guy this guy's on another level but he's very valuable to us like this guy like most people don't just roll up with a giant head in their in their hand and go hey what's up king what's up what do you want to do here they're like we don't know what to do with this guy but we like him on our team right now and Saul said to him whose son are you young man and David answered I am the son of thy servant Jesse the Bethlehemite and it came to pass when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David and Jonathan loved him as his own soul now all of a sudden there's this bond between Jonathan and David right that's that's crazy it's crazy how bonded they are and it almost doesn't make sense and some people are offended by it that they could be so tight especially this guy jonathan is from the system so watch this and saul took him that day and would let him go no more home to his father's house then jonathan and david made a covenant because he loved him as his own soul and jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him and gave it to david and his garments even to his sword and to his bow and to his girdle now what could this be representative of in owen benjamin's life i don't know and this is this is where we have another similarity it's

funny too because like some of these passages is like is david doing gay stuff with jonathan where he says like he loved him as like a woman no no sometimes people make a bond that's on

another level right so what does this mean so what would this bond be in owen benjamin's life imagine who is the guy he makes it he makes a covenant with david that will affect him for the rest of his life right just like the man in your life who convinced you to be a father think about this think about this for a minute Vince Vaughn do we have the picture Vince Vaughn is a man from within the system that's made this unbreakable bond between himself and Owen Benjamin he's convinced Owen Benjamin to be a father which is the greatest thing in Owen Benjamin's life now he calls so that's another thing we have in common we're both tight with Vince Vaughn you don't know

Vince Vaughn look I'm in the picture with him we're in Capri he looks very uncomfortable that

We're in the Amalfi Coast right there, dude. I hung out with him in the Amalfi Coast. Now, think about this. They make this bond that's so tight. That's me and Justin Vince Vaughn. You've got to stop.

You're not with Vince Vaughn.

This is the strongest bond that could have been made. Jonathan, who's from the system, doesn't turn on him. He, in fact, makes a covenant with David that will affect him for the rest of his life, just like the man in your life who convinced you to be a father. Jonathan is Vince Vaughn. okay i'm telling you dude i'm telling the parallels are are out of control here this is deep conspiracy okay now this now the system loves him that you're not going to ask me about when i met vince vaughn okay what what happened

because i can see we went to italy together you did not go to italy together with vince i can see very clearly here that vince vaughn doesn't know you and you've taken a picture of yourself as he's walking by you go babe i think that's been spawned let's take a selfie

and then no no no i didn't think it was i walked up to him somebody we were on the trip with was

like matt vince vaughn's over there he's another dude that's huge this guy's tall right yeah we

were in the amalfi coast and yeah he's in like basketball clothes and like long socks pulled all the way up and he looked kind of dorky but i always loved this dude man funny and uh so i watch.

up to him I said bro and I'm and I mean this dude I which is so great which is this other weird thing that Owen Benjamin was like this buddy with this guy is I was like bro best actor ever shook shook his hand goes thanks pal I said Wedding Crashers best movie ever which like that was a long time ago that I did I love that no Wedding Crashers is like the classic movie dude it's just the funnest especially Vince Vaughn's acting in that movie the one-liners and how quick and witty they are it's just like i was like i like this guy but is but is that right was he writing for him at that time like a lot of those one-liners and like the craziest stuff maybe probably maybe on benjamin's involved it's probably like oh five around that time i don't know but i like that kind of like witty funny because i used to not on purpose but on drugs like walk into situations where me and jess were supposed to be acting like grown-ups around that time and i would try to do like an icebreaker and i would just end up saying the craziest stuff i get like nervous to be around normal people and we were always trying to act like we were like normal grown-ups and just so I'd walk in and try to just break the ice and just say the crazy like I would ramble on some crazy thing I was like it's kind of like what Vince Vaughn does in some of these movies and I kind of liked him like that so anyway we were tight so I told him that and then we walked away I didn't know enough at the time to just say hey can I get a picture with you like I didn't decide to say that the worst thing was awesome I was like sweetie he's right behind us let's do a selfie and get him in the picture and you can see him he's like looking at us like he knows what we're

did he say anything to you after you did it no no he just was like he's like fucking guy yeah but

yeah he was but initially there was like a genuine smile away i was like bro best actor ever like he knew i wasn't just gassing him up like he knew i meant it yeah and he was like thanks pal and like we did the fist bump i'm pretty sure it was a fist bump all right so the system let's get back to this so just just stay with that vince vaughn is okay i didn't expect this so let's all right

Let's, let's, let's roll with it.

Vince Vaughn is Owen's Jonathan. Okay. What David is to Jonathan, Owen Benjamin is to Vince Vaughn.

Man, you're saying Vince Vaughn has to die? That's not cool.

No, no, no, no. There's a lot of parallels here, dude. All right. A lot of parallels. All right. So the system loves him because they have a common enemy in the giant and the Philistines and they welcome them in with open arms. So who's that enemy? It's the American people. It's the crowd. It's the people to come to the shows, come to the movies, come to the comedy plays. you know all the things watch the tv show all the stuff right as long as on benjamin was in cahoots with the system for that yeah they welcomed him in he was welcome with open arms once the system no longer needs him it discards him so why does saul who represents the system turn on david because slowly but surely that system represented by king saul begins to lose its mind let's look at uh 18 5 and david went out where so ever did it ever so like i let's also

clarify from the very beginning it has already lost its mind since the meeting but this progresses

yes i mean saul always was what he was we talk about this a lot satan was a liar from the beginning he was a murderer from the beginning it takes time to manifest uh-huh saul always was what he was but a certain time period came along where he starts to lose it yeah there's a certain time period comes along where the system starts to lose it and no longer can tolerate having david around dissent no longer can tolerate having owen benjamin be around david went out wheresoever

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representative of ob and saul sent him over the men of war and he was accepted in the sight of all the people and also in the sight of saul's servants so even though he's young in the game everybody's looking at him and they like him even even in that system they're like something about this guy and it came to pass as they came when david was returned from the slaughter of the philistine that the women came out of all the cities of israel singing and dancing to meet king saul with taverns with joy and with instruments of music and the women answered one another as they played and said

Saul has slain his thousands, but David is 10 thousands, right? They like them. Yeah. Yeah. They like them. And Saul like punk is big hits. Vince Vaughn, big hits. The system likes them. The people, the crowd likes them. Saul was very Roth and the saying displeased him. Now the system starts to get a little jealous. He said, they have ascribed unto David 10,000 to me. They have ascribed a thousands and what can he have more about the kingdom? And Saul, I David from that day forward. Now, I don't know enough about Owen's story to say when this happened, but this definitely happened. I don't know how this came about, but this came about where the system started to eye him and was ready to get rid of him. I'll keep reading. And it came to pass on the morrow that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul. A lot of people don't like that passage. God won't send an evil spirit. Okay, it says it right there. came to pass on the morrow that the evil spirit from god came upon saul and he prophesied in the midst of the house and david played with his hand as at other times and there was a javelin in saul's hand so david's still there playing the harp for saul so that he's soothed he's soothing the system if you will for a time and saul cast the javelin for he said i'll smite david even to the wall with it and david avoided out of his presence twice yeah so he threw two huh this happened two different times, man. They're just chilling in the house, but David's witty. Owen Benjamin, you ain't going to get him like that, dude. Boom, he's quick. They go for him. He's out of there. You can't get him. You can't get him. He's got a destiny, if you will. And Saul was afraid of David because the Lord was with him. I'm not even going to unpack that. I'm just going to say that, like, Owen Benjamin is not in the place where he's at today unless God has guided this whole thing. I'll just say that. And was departed from Saul. Therefore, Saul removed him from him and made him his captain over a thousand and he went out and came in before the people and david behaved himself wisely in all his ways and the lord was with him wherefore when saul saw that he behaved himself wisely he was afraid of him keep saying this right but all israel and judah love david the crowd loves david the system is starting to turn on him because he went out and came in before them and saul said to david behold my older daughter may rab her will i give you to wife only be valiant for me and fight the lord's battles for saul said let not my hand be upon him but let the hand of the philistines be upon him so now he's trick he's butt kissing david but he's really hoping he dies yes and david said to saul who am i and what is my life for my father's family in israel that i should be son-in-law to the king but it came to pass at the time when mereb saul's daughter should have been given to david that she was given unto adriel the moholathite to wife and mikhail saul's daughter loved david and they told saul and the thing pleased him so now the system says let's get some trickery in here let's offer him one of our females i don't know i'm just guessing there's

got to be something like that that happened with owen during that time period he's in hollywood he's doing his thing the system says let's offer him one of our females we'll get him we'll trick him and saul said i will give him her that she may be a snare to him that was his real motive not to bless him, but to be a snare to him, and that the hand of the Philistines may be against him. Wherefore Saul said to David, you shall this day be my son-in-law in the one of the two. And Saul commanded his servants, saying, commune with David secretly, and say, behold, the king has delight in you, and all his servants love you. Now therefore be the king's son-in-law. Now we're getting into this foreskin story. Sorry if that was a little slow, but we're getting into the foreskin story and saul's servants spake those words in the ears of david and david said seem it to you a light thing that i'd be a king's son-in-law seeing that i'm just a poor man and lightly esteemed i don't have the money for the dowry i would have to pay you to to have your daughter and and the servants of saul told him saying on this manner spake david and saul said But thus shall you say to David, the king desires not any dowry, but a hundred foreskins of the Philistines to be avenged of the king's enemies. But Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. Right? It's all a setup. The system's trying to get him killed by the Philistines. Let one of their females be a snare to him. They're like, how do we get this guy? And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king's son-in-law. and the days were not expired. Wherefore, David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines 200 men. He said, you want 100? I'm actually pretty good at your guy's game. I'll bring you 200. This isn't my thing, but I'm good at your game. Here's, you want 100? Here's 200. And David brought their foreskins, and they gave them them in full tale to the king that he might be the king's son-in-law, and Saul gave him Macal, his daughter.

wife do you think that that was a mistake well i mean i guess david had to do this to play this play this whole thing out but uh no they were at war this was this was a war what i mean is that like is it a mistake to uh did david do this because he still wanted to be in the system did he understand this i guess he maybe he understood that he had to take the system you always come with something like that's a good question yeah because he's anointed to be king but i don't know right right so here's here's maybe is he wondering what's the path like if he becomes

if the king is my father-in-law then maybe potentially that's my path i know i've been anointed king by samuel maybe this is the way it goes that's the path but on the other hand

like Owen Benjamin path is like, no, no, no. He's actually the king of Berteria. You see? You're jumping the gun. This is a separate

kingdom. You're jumping the gun. Okay, sorry. He doesn't just start off like that. You're being nasty. Let's get back to that, though. Keep reading. Didn't you say that Owen Benjamin has reaped some foreskins as well? You said something

to that extent. No, I mean, I don't think it pertains, but like, I was like, if you're talking about like scalps, you were asking me who Andrew Wilson is. You want to know who Andrew Wilson is? He's a man that dominates a dumb woman in debates, like OnlyFans people in debates, but can't open a pickle jar. He's a guy that— So you're saying when Owen Benjamin clowns that guy, he scalps him? He took his scalp. Okay, so he's taken foreskins too?

Many scalps. Okay, many foreskins.

I don't know if he's taken the foreskins, but he's taken the top of their heads. Well, I guess it's the same thing. I don't know.

And Saul saw and knew that the Lord was with David. So the system knows, okay, this guy's got something we don't, and that Michal, Saul's daughter, loved him, and Saul was yet the more afraid of David, and Saul became David's enemy continually. So this enemy vibe starts to increase now. Then the princes of the Philistines went forth, and it came to pass after they went forth that David behaved himself more wisely. Remember, that just keeps coming up. Then all the servants of Saul, so that his name was much set by. and Saul spoke to Jonathan his son and to all his servants that they should kill David so now it's not just the Philistines, it's not just his daughter one of their females for a snare now he's even trying to get Vince Vaughn so who knows if there was a time where the system came to Vince Vaughn and said hey man you gotta get on out of here, right? but watch what Vince Vaughn does

well that's what I, oh to him I don't know but like we know that that's happened really? well that's exactly what this is saying again I don't know from Vince Vaughn, no but like from other people oh okay where they've been told yeah they've been told well that's what this system's doing that i'll be by joe rogan i'll be honest i again i want to say these names but like yeah it seems like that's what happened with rogan and then he was persona non grata to

everybody okay everybody okay this is what i'm saying this is a he is king david owen benjamin is king david he's just trying to get us off the trail by like mocking king david right now it's okay we love him it's cool like his secret's safe with us and our you know listeners it's not a big crowd it's not a lot of people but we know we know but jonathan saul's son delighted much in david and jonathan told david saying saul my father seeks to kill thee now therefore i pray thee take heed to thyself until the morning and abide in a secret place and hide thyself so he's got homies on the inside they want him dead but he's got homies on the inside right let's let's jump to 19 18 through 24 don't worry it gets better from here so david fled and escaped and came to samuel to ramah and told him all that saul had done to him mm-hmm and he and samuel went and dwelt in naoth and it was told saul saying behold david is at naoth in ramah okay so not only is the system trying to kill him from the inside but now he's left the system okay and saul sent messengers to take david so it's so he's not even in the system but they send messengers to pull his airbnb they send messengers to pull his paypal he's he's already left. He's already left the system. Saul sent messengers to take David. And when they saw the company of the prophets prophesying and Samuel standing as appointed over them, the spirit of God was upon the messengers of Saul and they also prophesied. And when it was told Saul, he sent other messengers and they prophesied likewise. And Saul sent messengers again the third time and they prophesied also. You want to know something funny? How like, how that starts off um need better internet cox internet has the fast reliable you're looking for perfect for seamless streaming gaming and working from home and now get cox 300 meg internet with a two-year plan price lock guarantee plus equipment included so get your household up to speed switch to cox internet today taxes and fees excluded from price

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terms apply i guess like his like sort of like awakening into the what the system is i mean i mean i think you always see it but you you don't accurately diagnose it but his his actual awakening was probably on uh the episode you know joey diaz is yeah hey cocksucker he was in spider-man he used

to have funny jokes a long time ago he's hilarious he was doing coke and had really funny coke jokes

back in the day i still think he's funny i think he's like i don't know anymore but i knew him a long time ago yeah joey diaz he was on his podcast and i think joey gave him uh like an edible but he gave him something called the star of death and uh it was like a really high and it was i think it was weed but when it's like that high milligram it behaves like a psychedelic yeah if you eat a

big like my boy worm ate a banana nut loaf in like 97 because we because we had proposition 215 in cali in 97 so you could get a medical marijuana card way back then yeah so worm you're supposed to eat a you know a slice of the banana nut bread he ate the whole loaf and he was tripping like acid

are mushrooms that's what it was like so yeah uh but i it's weird because i gave it to owen benjamin or gave it to joe rogan no he gave to owen benjamin joey diaz then yeah yeah so owen takes it and that's what people say they're like oh he took he took the pill and he lost his mind and that's why he like if i'm telling you if you watch rogan show i need to know more own story when you watch rogan show sometimes he'll talk about owen and and when he talks about him it's like a funeral he's like yeah man he took one edible with joey diaz and poor guy lost his mind he ended up moving to idaho and becoming a dad what like that's their take on it that's their take their take

is like like man it was bad because he became a dad and well there is a part there is there

is a part of that story like right after that like he bugs out and he like leaves the interview because he's like he said he's looking at joey yeah i wouldn't stick around if i was super high either no listen to this dude joey diaz talking to him and he's like what's wrong with you like doing his joey ds thing and he goes he says his face like melted off and he was like the face of a demon and he like got up and left and he's now he's like you know imagine you're on an edible and i think it's it's more like you're being dosed as well because you don't if you're not expecting to go on a trip like that that's fucked up like if you get you get hit with the drug that is way

stronger than what you intend yeah um even if you know what you're walking into sometimes it's just too much dude yeah yeah and if you don't that could so like for a while there he's i've been in that situation before on acid where i'm in like a basketball game at the high school and i'm just like i got i got to get out of here i can't look at another teacher or the principal or try to like act like i'm not super high i got to get out of here yeah i can see that imagine if you're and then there's like cameras on you and microphones yeah you got to get out of dodge dude i can just

imagine though like because i've taken edibles before and you take an edible and if it's the right dosage you feel nice my buddy simmy from india said that's how they eat it in india like

some dudes are just having a bag on their hip and they mix it with sugar and they'll just kind

of eat weed yeah and you see yeah it's just chill it could be but if it's like super high dosage

mushrooms it changes your your life worm went to every restaurant in that shopping center next to high school and threw up at each one there was a pizza spot he ate so much he threw up there was a taco bell he ate so much and threw up there was a hot dog spot he ate so much and threw up and i think it was a carls jr he ate so much and threw up that's insane yeah so yeah but he was tripping

but there's there's a point in this story where you know owen owen's got to go away and he's going through the desert for a while because your life has just been changed radically sure and it was changed with the drug in a sense and now like all the pieces are on the floor you got to pick them up and figure out what's what it's a crazy story yeah and it's just funny to see the dynamic of people go man poor guy and then you actually look at what he's doing and you're like nah he's

actually doing better like way better okay we're getting to that yeah okay and when it was told saw he sent other messengers then when he also to ramah that's the saw now the head of the system and came to a great well that is in set you and he asked and said where

are samuel and david and one said behold they be at naoth and ramah and he went there to naoth and ramah and the spirit of god was upon him also and he went on and prophesied until he came to naoth

and ramah you know what's crazy too i forgot put this in your pocket this dude's so interesting he there's also this like stint in his life maybe two three years ago i don't even remember you remember when kanye west was like kind of like going crazy with the whole jew thing and he's doing his thing you don't watch this stuff you know kanye west is yeah yeah yeah okay good we

could start they do i saw a thing pop up that he walked out of tim cast or something like he was

on tim cast and it was a new thing i mean i was on tim cast right after that like less than a week after he was on which is interesting you went on with that guy not with not with no with the tim

guy yeah i was on with i should have walked out yo dude if you want to imagine you on a show like that dude like what did you try to act like a normal politics guy that's a good yeah it was

it's actually a really interesting episode because i didn't say anything and i almost fell asleep but at that point uh tim is dealing with the daily wire uh steven crowder you know who that is there's a deal made with the daily wire and steven crowder and they were at odds and i think it has something to do with israel and money and tim was extremely stressed out man it always does no no i'm i'm being very serious when i say a man under levels of stress that you can't understand that's what i'm dealing with when i was looking at tim that day and that was unusual for his show

who wants that like who like who wants who wants like so much money or fame or things from the system that you're just in exhaustion it was evident to me that he was like beholden to

something and the deal between ben shapiro's show and steven crowder's show it was it was tanking and he had something to do with it and he was just losing it and i couldn't care less because i don't care about what jews do in their affairs with money anyway point is do you understand how big

kanye west is yes okay probably one of the biggest no i remember kanye when he came out when he was like when he got signed to rockefeller like yeah i know kanye but i don't know the later stuff i

guess he hooked up with one of the cardashians yeah this is after that too this is after the divorce this is when he's coming back but he's never lost his uh popularity he's always like He was really intriguing artist, like talented artist. Kanye's one of my favorite artists. Really? I could see that, yeah. And one of my favorite people for the same... It's just funny that Kanye pops up and he actually gets Owen Benjamin's number. And he basically has Owen advising him on joke writing and different topics and shit like that. But it's like a counsel to the king. It's a very strange thing. Again, shades of David in a way. And I'm not saying that Kanye is Saul. But, like, recruiting this person to get input from Owen Bet, like, truthful input, because he knows he's going to get truthful input. Well, watch what happens to Saul when he... Also, same case for Shane Cashman. Shane Cashman had that same weird relationship with Kanye West, which, again, this makes no sense. Really? Yeah. Just, like, he invited him to his L.A. studio, and they're, like, he's, like, showing him the songs that he's making. He's asking him for advice about this and that. What do you think about this? I'm like, just straight. And then, thanks, man. and that's like you know maybe call him here and there but like weird overlaps of these type of people and when you meet them in real life you're like that dude's special i don't know why i don't know what's going on with that guy but it makes sense why kanye would pick them out of this big internet thing and go you talking to you now yeah you know but anyway that's a no i'm three chapters

in i'm like there's something here there's something here with this dude this is like uh this is like a dude on another level it's like you're very clearly like you're reading what he's writing you're saying i don't fully know what i'm going to make of this but this is we're definitely dealing with a man on another level right right right not even just like oh a cool podcaster or oh a cool guy in the news or whatever but like this is a dude whose brain's operating on a on a higher level so there's something to see here that's all i'm saying but watch what happens saul sends messengers to take him down right he said they take his paypal they take his uh airbnb they take everything they can then the system actually comes for himself saul comes himself uh so saul went there to naoth and ramah and the spirit of god was upon him also and he went on and prophesied until he came to naoth and ramah so when the spirit of god comes on you it's not always for like for your good watch what happens now and he stripped off his clothes also and prophesied before samuel in like manner and lay down naked all that day and all that night wherefore they say is saul also among the prophets what does what happens if you start to engage with own benjamin he strips you naked he strips you naked dude yeah the system came at him people come at him just read the book just read the book dude he strips things naked and bare

people know that so this guy uh clint one of the reasons that he

blocked me he blocked me he even blocked my phone number why because owen was hip to him owen was always hip to him but when it came uh time for the bohemian grove i i i felt like it was you know it was fair to like i wasn't like going and trying to trash the guy but i felt like it's fair to tell uh the main performers everyone you see on this uh and people that were involved i'm like hey listen these guys are not involved with this anymore and then of course they go well what the fuck happened and then i tell i'm not gonna lie so i tell the story and i tell him well this is what happened from my perspective and owen went he started to like scratch again at clint and clint like freaked out blocked me blocked everybody and just moved away yes because

you don't want to get stripped naked and you know that that's what he's gonna hide with this dude you look at this dude you're like if you have anything to hide with this guy don't go in his presence like don't let him don't be on his radar it's something i think about too like

as i like because it's been a couple years now that i've been friends with them and like i you know make contact with them and i'm like eventually and i told him to i told him um when we were talking about the tucker thing i was like he's like i don't know if i should do it and i was like you should do it like don't lose your soul doing this but like this is an opportunity to talk i think you should do that and the conversation got to a place where i was like hey listen i expect you to strip strip me naked if you see me doing some dumb shit and i'm like

i'm not going to be mad about it sure that's a good friend right yeah if they say hey this is what's up and the same for him you know you know the raven was mad at me for looking at the chat not paying attention he exposed it he said it that's a good friend i guess yeah i miss him okay this next part dude i didn't even this wasn't even part of it dude because i i had no clue about the, kind of went a little crazy with the edible? No clue.

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at lifelock.com terms apply well there's a period of time where yeah you got to go crazy okay okay

let's read it yeah because you have to figure it out okay let's read it now you mean you didn't talk about this at all before the show i didn't talk about a lot of this i didn't know well yeah actually any of it but i didn't know any of that story that he ate the edible i don't know anything about that you ready for this part now okay just remember owen benjamin is king david and david arose and fled that day for fear of Saul and went to Ashish, the king of Gath. And the servants of Ashish said unto him, isn't this David, the king of the land? Did they not sing one to another of him in dances saying Saul had slain his thousands? What are we at? 1 Samuel 21. 21, 21. Yeah. 10 through 14. Gotcha. Go ahead. 10 through 15. Sorry. Isn't this David? Did they not sing one to another of him in dances saying Saul has slain his thousands and David is 10 thousands? and David laid up these words in his heart and was so afraid of Ashish, the king of Gath. And he changed his behavior before them and feigned himself mad in their hands and scrabbled on the doors of the gate and let his spittle fall down upon his beard.

In a sense, that's how he did get out of, that's how he got out of Hollywood.

You're not surprising me. I just didn't know that yet. I'm saying Owen Benjamin is King David. So I'm not surprised by that at all. I just didn't know that yet. So there's probably a lot more in this story that ties perfectly with them i just don't know his story that good yet i know i know a little bit of it he pretends he so he goes through this period of acting like a madman he's like dribbling an invisible basketball bro he's like over in the corner playing checkers with himself and he's like scrabbling on the door like this and he's letting the drool come down his beard then said ashish unto his servants lo you see the man's a madman wherefore then have you brought him to me have i need of madmen that you have brought this fellow to play the madman in my presence shall this fellow come into my house so he's got this ability to respond in very crazy situations and he's not afraid to do things that are like way outside the box way outside the box so owen benjamin remember this he had to move around a little bit once he got kicked out of the system there was something else i was reading where like he lived maybe it was on tucker where he like he lived maybe where his wife was from or maybe he lived where he was from originally new york yeah he had to move around a little bit king david's doing the same thing dude he didn't find his place right away he had he got kicked out of the system he had to leave israel the system wants him dead the system's already taken his airbnb the system's already taken his paypal like he's got a he's got a maneuver he's got a maneuver he doesn't find his spot immediately right that that's what this is and he goes through a time period where he acts like a madman it's all here owen benjamin had to move around a little bit once he got kicked out of the system he had to find his place or get him where you fit in as too short would say okay let's keep going okay we're almost done almost done we're going into one samuel 22 there's a lot more i mean well i don't know i don't know enough elman benjamin's story to say all the stuff how it all can but this stuff the little bit that i know about him i'm like he's king david it's the same story okay 22 verse 1 i really would like i'd like his uh

his input back on this episode because he's gonna say we're idiots well no i mean if i've gotten if i've gotten something wrong or if we're missing something or if we're like maybe maybe that didn't really happen like that is a little more like this you know am i exaggerating something i don't know but i want to know because it is kind of like it is a little weird what even youth you're

so this isn't just keep reading wait so you're looking at this you're saying like wow these are these are very intriguing parallels i'm trying to figure out and he's trashing king david wow

there's all these very similar parallels all right with like with most bible characters you can read them and especially in their flaws you can find a lot of yourself in most bible characters even in in jesus they're not his flaws but obviously like some of the things he does go oh yeah i did that i don't know why so far are you seeing any flaws in david yeah where flaws in david so far in as far as we've read in the story up to this story no no like okay they come they come a little bit later okay keep that in your back pocket okay i'm just saying i don't know if i'm being fair am i attributing something that is like can i put the story of david over most people's lives and they never this closely? No. That's what I'm saying. It's a lot. It's a lot. No, dude. Chat, what do you think? I'm just being fair. No, there's nobody that parallels King David like this. Okay, but we're being fair. Chat, are we reaching? Yeah, where's the chat? They're over here. I don't know. Is this interesting? Are we reaching? Do you think that this is like, I don't know. Because I could also understand how this could be not just offensive, but it could be annoying to somebody what do you mean i don't if it's coming from the wrong person if somebody came to me when i don't want to hear some shit like this when it's a complete match okay well atma said i i trust atma uh all right well i let's keep going let's keep going it's

just interesting yeah yeah atma knows what's up right like on a lot of stuff yeah atma's emma has good uh good insight to a lot of that shouldn't by own their critique i'm not he's not my buddy like that dude i'm not gonna he'd probably just be like you're an idiot you probably have a cool farm but you're an idiot probably probably this is good this is fascinating i don't think i'll be annoyed uh a mild mild reach okay okay that's fair yeah i mean you call you call uh vince vaughn

his jonathan i got it i got you that's what that's a little i don't know i don't know anything

about vince vaughn so i can't okay is it okay if some of this is a little bit comedy too or no this has to just be super serious. It's a little bit of both. I feel like this is a little bit of Owen Benjamin style comedy where he's doing a comedy. When he's talking about the raccoon and the minx, is that what he says? The minx is the cat? He's saying it like so serious but trying not to laugh. He's saying it like it's so serious. My duck, Gary, was found in the pool with an erection. He's saying it like it's so serious. But of course there's an element of we're joking here.

We're joking, but then part of it I'm like, fuck man. Okay, but yeah. It just, this is Owen Benjamin style comedy, isn't it? I wouldn't even say it's comedy. I'd just say like, yeah, it's just, well, I don't know. Right. Let's keep going.

This is where it gets good, dude. We haven't even really got there. David therefore departed then. Okay. He's trying to find his way. He's trying to find his place. He's trying to figure out where does he fit in? He goes to the first place. Then he has to act like a madman for a little bit. Okay. That's not the spot. Let me go to the next spot. Let me find my path there. David therefore departed there and escaped to the cave, Adulam. And when his brethren and all his father's house heard it, they went down there to him. And everyone that was in distress and everyone that was in debt and everyone that was discontented gathered themselves unto Owen Benjamin, and he became a captain over them. So he's run out of. the system he goes out into the country lives in seclusion in idaho and then a band of misfits rejects rebels and outcasts from the system gather to him are you serious are you serious that and then ultimately he guides this band of outcasts and

rebels that's this is a part of the story where that's a direct overlap not not many other

people do that there's nobody there's nobody that lines up with this story like on benjamin dude there's nobody right these people gather to him and ultimately they take on the system we're not we're not going to keep reading any more of the story but i'm saying that's what happens in the story is ultimately this band this real this band of real at like what's the main thing i say about like why i love what we do way better than like a regular church bible study because these are the realist people dude the people that are like in this uh community are the realist people yeah but they're offensive oh but they're mocking the bible i'm okay with that dude i'm okay with just let's all pump the brakes for a minute let's pump the brakes dude we weren't all here we're all still growing we're all still finding our way he mocks the godhead it's that's an incredibly complicated topic he's a comedian pump let's just chill out for a minute let's chill out for a minute let him do his thing this story lines up incredibly perfect he's guiding this people he ends up with like the mighty man you ever read the stories of the mighty he ends up with straight badasses from society that the system never knew was badasses dude they didn't know they didn't know they flock to david he becomes a captain or a guide or a leader over them and those people ultimately go take over the system that's all i'm saying this story is now where we are in bow and benjamin's story? I don't know. I don't know. All of the stories that he's pulling up now to kind of mock David, there's stuff that happens later after David sins with Bathsheba. That's where he brings this curse on. And that's where things get really bad for him. That's where things get really bad for him. Owen Benjamin's not that far in the story yet, right? I think this is where he's at. That's why he said we're not even going to read anymore. I think this is where Owen Benjamin's at in the story yeah and so the question is like if like let's say David's story King David's story is this long right where's the camera King David's story is this long right Owen Benjamin's only this far in the story though he's only this far in the story you see what I'm saying this is where he's at right now it all parallels David it all parallels David let's just see where this thing goes from here with Owen Benjamin what do you think about man because it's it's interesting

because people are people are just we're storytellers but we live we live through uh archetypes i think this is like a jordan peterson point but i'm sure owen has touched on it as well

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And we repeat them, maybe subconsciously, unknowingly, these archetypes. So it's not the first time that he's probably heard the story of David. It's a popular story. People know that.

Most of them don't know the whole story.

They know bits and pieces. Yeah, maybe not close enough to like really put it together and look back and reflect. And who knows, like, how would you even reflect on this? You're living your life. So it's like, why would you look? It's a weird thing. Sure. Do you think it's possible? Do you think that you play out the whole story? Because this is the story of men?

No, I think God gives you and makes you aware that you're doing it.

and you be aware now is that what the story is for to see where you're at and then go oh no no

we'll go the other direction here yeah 100 that's what it says isn't that what one corinthians 10 says all these stories were given to us as examples so that we would learn by them so you look at a man's life you say okay i see these similarities in my life somehow we do latch on and maybe that's what it means that your name has to be written in the book of life Like you have to find yourself in this story, dude, for whatever reason. I looked at Abraham when I was 19, when I was like reading a Bible, was still doing a lot of drugs and stuff. And he left, he left where he was from. And I became very jealous of that. Like he left where he was from. God said, get away from your kinfolk, get away from your family, your friends, get away from everything. Yeah. And I remember thinking like, damn, I would love to do that. I would love to not be who I am right now. I would love to like not go to a party and be expected to say like it's six foot long toke or do like a two minute keg stand or just be drunk all the time and act like an idiot i would make what what if like i could be whoever i want to be and not be like who this system has told me i am and i saw abraham leave like that and i was jealous and i was like i love that and then one time i was taking a piss in lake tahoe on the side of the road on ecstasy and like drinking the whole way up there to tahoe and i was just taking a piss and the stars were like so close it like everything was so close and just right in my face. And I was just like, I just heard this voice say, you got to leave here. You got to leave. Not an audible voice. I'm just saying overwhelming in my spirit. This voice was like, you got to leave here. Right. And so I connected to that story of Abraham and I had a model, if you will. And I was like, yeah, I got to go and I'll be good. I'll be okay. Cause God took Abraham somewhere. He had no clue what was out there, but Abraham had a sense of adventure and he knew he had God, he was down to go. I connected to that story. I was like, yeah, I got to go. I got to get out of here. And that would have been in the winter. And then I left Cali in like June. So I think we do have to look at these stories, look at the parallels, see how they tie into our life and look at it and be able to say, okay, what happened next in this guy's life? Let me make sure I don't make those mistakes. Yeah. Yeah. And, and as for like the

downfalls of these biblical characters like it's it's funny to be like yeah they're all common downfalls of like what we would attribute to jews and that's true but the more i look at like the jewish people i'm like what to everybody these are the stories of everybody it's not the story of i mean i think because the okay again in in the world that we're in the crimes of the jews are like quite pronounced especially when people don't see it but now they're all seeing it okay

but like jews today they have the thing like this and like you go to shake the chick's hand when you're at like a trade show in new york and the woman won't shake her hand and stuff like that's not like biblical like i don't like i don't know what that is dude but this guy this is something different here like this is whatever this is if this is something wild dude the jews in the bible this is something wild and so i don't know to tie it into like whatever that modern thing is i yeah

I don't know it's not it's not just them it's not just orthodox it's it's where he's tying it into the crimes of what they do now and like the way that they lie and they say it is a very specific

way it's a specific lens to look at this through then I would just think that would be a hindrance man I would be looking at this through a lens of like where am I in this story which I think on Benjamin says that because doesn't he say you got to kill the Jew in your heart yeah yeah it's

it is a bit of a hindrance um it's true but like yeah like you also got to be aware like damn like i'm doing these i'm doing this same crime to a different to to a lower level maybe but like yeah you see yourself in that you see yourself in the downfalls of what david's doing yeah usually that's

what happens you see a guy in the story and you go oh man what just like when you see the guy texting and driving yeah like oh what a piece of like oh i do the same thing that happens when you read the bible dude you look at a guy you go oh what a piece you go dude and hopefully you get to a part you say god will you just show me where i don't like this i don't know where i'm doing this in my life but surely the reason i don't like this is because i'm doing this yeah will you show this

to me god like where am i doing this i think one of the coolest part is like uh all these people

are fundamentally flawed yeah like big issues uh but if they told everybody's story this it's like when i told my cousin i said when you know when i got back in cahoots with my cousin i didn't see him for like 20 years and we started talking about family stuff i was like you know our family's messed up dude yeah and he's like nah man all families are messed up and i remember i was like yeah you're right man you're right like all families are messed up and if you were to tell the real story of anybody it's gonna be ugly like this dude everybody's life if you were to tell

every bit of the story is ugly well we we've been talking about how like narrow the road is and it's like super narrow that could kind of make you it makes me a little paranoid you're like damn it's like hope i don't die tomorrow because who knows but then don't say that dude yeah but it's it's sort of the reality because it's like there is only one option there's there's a very thin road that we have to walk and that's that's the way we have to go you better make sure you're on that road then i know but i'm saying when you look at these stories look at uh look peter kind of not a scoundrel but like he's a wild man not you're a wild man you denied christ while you're walking with him three times you're walking on water with him

you're walking and then you and then you go on to make more mistakes and it's like well i don't know like then at the end it says when jerusalem new jerusalem comes down like he's got like an

entire portion of the city named people but what is god looking for goody two-shoes or real ass people over and over like what is the thrust of jesus message don't be a hypocrite don't be an actor don't wear a mask whatever you are be that because i can deal with that including even peter which is intriguing if his name means rock and we know that rocks are formed through process that's very intriguing that he nicknames him process if you will he nicknames him rock a thing that must go through a process you look at his life it's it's a process that's for all of us dude that's for all of us people start picking at people and it would be just like if jesus is working in a carpenter shop and he hasn't finished the table yet you come in and start mocking that table and he's saying i'm not finished yet i haven't even finished it yet what do you mean you're mocking the table it's not even done you see what i'm saying so we're all in this process but what he's always looking for is real ones so all i'm saying it's like i see the dude on benjamin i'm like that's a real ass dude that's a real ass dude let's just see where this story goes like that like that just seems like a dude god could get down with we'll see it's gonna be

interesting to see where the story goes especially now because i feel like that story is like ready to move to this next arc i got to pay more attention to whatever he's doing it's always

cool anything i ever see is it's just weird because like for me before i was like obviously

if you're like i was like more of a consumer so i'm listening a lot to his show and like other people's stuff i listen to nothing now so i'm kind of disconnected from the happenings but i

don't think that matters so much i get the instagram stuff i don't really know i don't

even see that i'm just too busy i'm just i'm too busy with all the other stuff i see some stuff on twitter but it's not like i'm just way too busy i think it'll be more interesting looking back in a year from now or a couple months from now to see like all right what happened here what was the story it's a story that we should be paying attention to so are you saying he

literally got in a time machine and he is king david no no you're saying that you're saying that

he's literally king david king david david's not tall i mean david's yeah he's not tall at all you

don't know that well we just know the giant was bigger okay but just because it doesn't say he's tall doesn't mean he's not he's not tall david was probably like five nine is it possible that he is time traveling and he realizes that people are hip to him. So he's scrambling now to make sure people think he's not King David time traveling. I'm not, I'm not going to say that it's a hundred percent not possible. Okay. That's all I needed. That's I didn't need to hear anything.

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