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hey today we're gonna find out why they want us to hate donald trump

and it might be because i ran so far away today we got shadowgate a 2020 film directed by millie weaver and actually distributed by info wars at the time millie weaver was connected to alex jones and the whole infoware sector we thought it's always good to go through these 2020 documentaries every now and then because there was a lot going on and now that we have time and a scope better to like look back at it it's it's interesting the things that come across

i gotta say too i don't know how many quote-unquote conspiracy documentaries i was watching in the 2020s i think i got most of my good fill in up through like the mid-2000s and then like one here and there but definitely not any millie weaver documentaries uh use that word a little bit strained but this was a new one for me man i didn't even know it existed um and i didn't even know about like all the drama between her and info wars and now i guess they're not in the same situation as a who is right like we've all moved on quite a bit since then and for me uh 2020 was

an interesting year because again like you i've watched like a lot of alex jones and and jordan maxwell and different documentaries and all this stuff prior to 2020 right but what i call 2020 is my un-retirement year because for a long time when donald trump got elected i was like all right it's donald trump versus hillary i don't care like right like that it's so obvious and people didn't notice it i was like i don't care anymore and then in 2020 i came out of retirement to help you guys decipher some of this stuff it didn't work as well because uh people are so falling for but hey i'm still trying right and in this film i actually got like really deep in all the documentaries of 2020 that's how like the all for floyd and stuff like that because people were just popping up on my feed so i was getting interested to watch this and at the time i thought this was a really really good one where they talk about the intelligence contractors and this quote-unquote shadowgate and pretty much edward snowden nsa whistleblowing but like to an extreme right times 10 on a different scale it's about the same range but new players plotting the course so this documentary follows whistleblower tory mares and patrick burgie so to you have to

just to uh get it out there right away you pretty much have to take their word for a lot of it right they try to trust me bro the two whistleblowers not that whistleblowers are liars or anything but again it it has some elements to where you have to pay it pretty much the predominant is is tory and patrick throughout the film telling you like you said trust me bro and one of their their claims is that they argue that post 9-11 surveillance has expanded to digital infrastructure hello like that kind of a little bit obvious like if you didn't know that they're using social media platforms to take your information and use it for nefarious reasons i don't know if

everybody knew that but cat's out of the bag i when this documentary started and they brought these two you know whistleblowers out i was like okay not like this it's already a little bit more than i anticipated i didn't realize we were going to get some interviews and some insider reports and then after you know the documentary kept going and going i was like oh this is the entire documentary it's just these two people and their word and they don't have anything beyond these two people except like uh little screen quotes or you know internet like where you could type

it up yourself you know what i mean like look you can go to this website and it also has that

and well i want to be clear too that i i don't think that anything that these two people said is incorrect at all i don't think they would do be lying about it it's just kind of your general sentiment was just like yeah and like welcome to what's been going on for my entire

lifetime so basically one of the major claims is shadowgate itself the the title is this thing that this entity a secret government program have you will mockingbird quote-unquote like right it's shadowgate shadowgate is the new mockingbird kind of what they're claiming not necessarily

mockingbird but this new version of it and shadowgate the term i think that comes from millie weaver like no one no one else is calling this shadowgate that was just the name of the

documentary and the thing yeah she she uh coined the term is not an actual official government program named shadowgate yeah that is good to get clear but you don't know that going in right like if you're going in you might you went without knowing a lot about this i mean maybe whenever

i hear someone has like a like a something gate it's like oh man like we need to find a new moniker we need to find a new way to brand conspiracies and scandals then just putting

the gate at the end and their claim of shadowgate is that it is an embedded contractor network or network inside dhs dod nsa and the cia that runs psychological operations domestically avoids oversight by using private corporations so they claim that all this information they're like well we're not doing anything with it but these private corporations are making copies so all the information that they're saving they're like we're not using it against you because uh you're american citizens but they're selling the information to corporations that are allegedly run by either former heads of state or in the military generals or ex-CIA people they talk about Brennan a lot right Brennan is always the I mean easy guy to be like hey he's an evil guy and you're like I'm on board bro you don't have to convince me the head of the CIA are you kidding

me you think they're doing shadow operation and then there's a spot in this documentary where at least they give you all the ingredients and it's kind of simple you can you can simplify what seems like this complex political technological now what happens is that all data what you're searching what you're saying just like any anything that you're doing that's being digitized by cameras or microphones which is pretty much everything that we're doing like right now what we're doing is being digitized right so all of that data by default get is getting stored by the nsa for at least 72 hours just so that it's around in case they need to double check it or save it for evidence or whatever. And then they're supposed to get rid of it and never look at it again. And I'm totally sure they're doing that at exactly 72 hours. Um, the other part of this though, is that during that 72 hour period, they're also allowed to send all this data they're collecting to like private companies and contractors so that those companies can kind of like assist in that process so now we're trusting the nsa to totally delete everything after 72 hours and we're trusting everyone downstream from them that they're sending all of our data to that they're also deleting all of our information within 72 hours so the whole premise is that hey they're not actually doing that they're not actually deleting it after 72 hours and that's

that's kind of shadow gate gambling you're telling me that they're gambling like of course like that that's one thing that i i felt back like obviously when i watched this in 2020 i was intrigued because like i knew a lot of the information but it was what this is is the surge of 2020 people that were just kind of like oh wow the government is kind of corrupt like a lot of us already knew all this stuff or they were not just corrupt but they're like wow they do dirty like it's way dirtier than you thought and this is a lot of people quote unquote where they call waking up or whatever you want to call it but it's like people didn't really understand that i'm like yeah dude after 9-11 i i thought everybody knew this so to me the interesting fact of watching this in 2020 for me was like dang a lot of people do not know a lot of this

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from price lock mobile data speeds reduced after 20 gigs the the thing that blows my mind i 100 agree and i think that is good someone sees something like this and they're like what do you mean i can't trust the government what do you mean that they say one thing and doing it like okay that like and once they catch up that's great it's just so weird that all of that in this documentary gets framed as and they're doing it to to do a coup on donald trump and all of this is just to take him down you know what i mean it's it's such a weird way because they even start getting into they want to abolish the police and all i'm hearing in my mind is the state is trying to get rid of the state like we need to help the state not get rid of the state you know what i mean at a certain point it stops making sense to me which is this like pro trump alex jones era where he's like on the campaign trail for for doing like a president you know and just a little

side note i never thought i would see that in my lifetime that alex jones is like not telling you but actually on the campaign trail and has the president's here that always threw me off i'm like come on jones man and what though we're against the state now he's like ah it's all good

man yeah you know what i'm starting to realize too uh alex jones and info worlds and all that stuff like they were just one of the only outlets where you could get this like these really fringe theories but that were legitimately backed up by crazy things going on like yeah of course he made wild hyperbolic claims but nobody else was reporting on these very real ap articles and reuters article that's all he did is he just read through all the ap and reuters articles and anything that sounded kind of crazy he just repeated it and no one else was doing what he was doing and after you do that for a decade or two it's almost like people think that you're an expert in all these topics it's like nah you just know how to pick out crazy headlines and connect some dots and scream a little bit so like over time i think my impression of what alex jones was doing at the time and especially since then it's just like all right he just happened to find like a nice gap in the market and have the right voice for it but he's not necessarily the guy you want to like get your news and your subjective analysis from and i'll just leave it at that to be subtle

i would agree and then he's just really great at going off the cuff like you said he can you can give him probably like 20 30 headlines and he's like i got this right on the fly that's what i give him credit for he's good at just on the fly going yep i'm gonna start connecting this and this but he's not an expert it's not like someone that has dived deep into a lot of these subjects he knows about it from just existing through it and i do like that's why i think what's good about what we do is like i did enjoy going back to the the old police state alex though i i like that alex

the best dude alex like rushing up on actual cops during an active you know a training operation and just being like so how's it feel working for the new world order you know like that is that's the classic man on the street style alex jones that i think that uh he he needed to have not really abandoned because as soon as he got big enough and info wars became bigger than alex jones even became that's when I don't know. all of this kind of started and and then you get millie weaver as the new man on the street representing this kind of you know octopus of info wars except she kind of veers away from man

on the street and maybe because 2020 maybe was a little bit more difficult but this whole thing focuses on patrick and tory throughout the thing and they're telling their stories that you know tory was ex-naval intelligence and patrick ex-military intelligence we're gonna break all that down for sure they they talk about some of the programs they were like the psyop units and the missile units and uh special operation commands and post 9-11 cyber expansion which a lot of us already knew like i mean after 9-11 this stuff was all unrolled and then even with snowden right snowden talking about nsa spying on us they kind of briefly go over it it's like snowden for right wingers that's what i would probably say about shadowgate right it's a snowden era but focused primarily on they're only going after us right like this side of the state they're not actually going hey this is some of the information is really important uh we kind of probably didn't know it but we know psychological operations are being uh set upon us for all the time like they start talking about the section 702 and primus providing the data pipeline where fisa section 702 in 2008 which is connected to the edward snowden 2013 uh surveillance program of primus and the mass data collection infrastructure makes psychological targeting possible so it's not necessarily proving anything they're just like pushing it back out there that it still exists which was probably good at this time because there was a lot of people in 2020 that were willing to listen to this information that's the only to me the the the under the

underlining moment that is good at it or the the i think part of the problem here though is that um you'll get these really like clearly for example here's how it gets framed in the documentary where millie's like so what you're saying is there's military grade psychological warfare weapons being directed you know like the way that she frames that here's what's here's what's actually happening though it's really it's really kind of simple so you've got tori um and tori was a navy linguist so a linguist in the navy is essentially someone that translates so she could have just been the lady that knows how to speak spanish in the the office um and they make it sound really it's it's called like a cryptologic technician interoperative you know what i mean like they make it sound fancy but really it's like she's the one who knows how to speak arabic she's the one who knows how to speak spanish and what she's describing is this um this side you know psyop program that's going on what it means is they're collecting information um and then she becomes an expert in whatever language and culture and like she calls it localization and localization is just meaning like what does this phrase or this behavior mean in this town or in this city at this time because it might be different if you're talking about different state or a different country if someone acts a certain way or says a certain thing so she's kind of like a glorified translator and that they can kind of tell what people are saying and how they're acting and use it against them like okay yeah that's a casino operator working the security camera is technically what she's doing at this level and then they've got the guy um patrick bergey and he's in cyber security for the army you know when you have to um your internet goes out and you got to call spectrum and the spectrum guy comes over and he like runs some tests and he's got like some stuff in the truck he knows how to use it i mean not not to like under you know glorify what patrick bergey did that's kind of him he's like the spectrum guy except he probably has more expensive tools and he's worked on top secret compounds but essentially he's making wi-fi signals work again and he's connecting stuff right so these are like the two whistleblowers you've got a translator and you've got a spectrum guy and they're kind of and i'm saying it this way to be like under hyperbolic just because of how it's like this guy is a is a psyop you know tech like cyber security technician like all right let's find out what they act what's the actual career code so there's a lot of bit of like dressing up in here to make it sound like you're getting this explosive insider cia top secret you know uh knowledge when it really it's like here's two people that work for the military among millions of others that work for the military and their opinions on trump

it kind of reminds me of half-baked when he's like i'm a custodian or a janitor if you want to be a dick about it right like you can dress up any title you want and it happens all the time i mean even in regular workspaces where you're like he's a shipping specialist like right you're like Yeah, I just ship stuff. Like, it's nothing crazy. Our people love these fancy titles. So I agree. It kind of like is a little misleading to somebody that may not know it's they're like, Oh, I'm getting an expert on this. And you're like, well, he just kind of worked there. Right. And he's telling his opinion. And from Patrick's perspective, you could kind of get it. Like, is he scorned? Right. Like, is he like work for a company that maybe they did not have the best, you know, falling out or like, Hey, I'm leaving this company. Like I work at companies where I'm like, I hate this company. I'm leaving. and if you ask me in an interview about them i'll be like yeah they're a piece of crap man like i might make up things right oh they're embezzling bro like i know for sure like even if i don't know so some of it again i'm not trying to undermine what they say either but some of it does kind of

give you uh scorned worker vibes and and honestly like again i don't disagree with a single thing that either one of them said i just i'm just of the pretty strong opinion that we're not getting any new information from either of these two whistleblowers uh they just worked at a company 20 years ago and like oh yeah it sucked back then and yeah i'm sure that those guys are assholes that's kind of a little bit of what you get and there's there's not any smoking gun evidence a lot of it i think is just to do that uh appeal to authority sort of logical fallacy where it's like oh we got insiders therefore anything this documentary says must be more accurate had they not been in it uh when really that's not really the case and they they kind of break down more

like it's a uh one of those documentaries where it's just like this guy's connected to the general james is connected general james jones is connected to patrick and patrick's connect to brennan and like it kind of like brings it all together they talk about some of the companies like dynology corporation clear force cgi group and how they're by defense contract like defense contractors are former generals that's like kind of unfortunately a very common thing like most people these high-ranking generals that are like at the defense department usually go to raytheon usually go to lockheed martin and other defense contractors and now the new defense system is psychological warfare via social media and data is a new weapon so so the film highlights all these companies it's nothing that we don't know it's just a new form of technology that is being used against us instead of just like hey we're burning books we're actually just copying your profiles and buying on everything you're doing which has been forever but now we have gave them access to this and they could have to me went a little bit more detailed but the primary focus is probably one of the last claims and it's not just a claim but their main theme is basically this is a coup d'etat against donald trump that was orchestrated by the obama administration that is pretty much the the meat and potatoes of all this i feel a little bit um about like this is if

someone were to approach you and they just keep they spit in facts every single thing they say you're like hell yeah no i agree 100 yeah we should lower that yeah we should like end all these horrible programs and then they're like and that's why you should join my cult and sell all your goods and get and you're just like hold on a minute like i was up i was with you all the way up until the very end where you're like and now this is what we should do about it so it has that like sort of a premise to it um i i think that there's plenty of silver lining in it because we get a lot of real important information it just gets weirdly funneled into like and therefore you're like what like why does this mean and therefore they're trying to throw a coup on donald trump or um there's some other claims too she claims that the obama phone was part of this program and that it was essentially all these people had opted in to take government phones that all that data was then being farmed by private industry and then the private industry was figuring out how to emotionally target the people that were using these phones and send them specific political messaging or like whatever just get them to vote a certain way i don't know man i don't know if if once you gave the obama phones out i don't know if you had to like feed the obama phone users a psyop operation just to get them to vote for obama over donald trump or or whatever whatever the the uh the antithesis would have been for obama right so like again it's it's a lot of yes i agree they're doing these programs yes it's being funneled to private industry and it shouldn't be uh but now like for what ends oh it's just to defeat trump and if trump were in charge none of this would have been going on like private industry and the nsa like he'd get in there and he'd end all that he'd be draining the swamp that's kind of like

the dot dot dot that doesn't get spoken yeah because they even like have like a recorded because Tori also has a podcast just to be super and everything and she's talking to robert uh uh to stone right uh roger stone i was almost gonna say his name wrong roger stone's on there claiming like yeah you're right man of course he's a he's political mastermind trying to get donald trump re-elected at this time right they're having a campaign and that's where they lose me because i'm like i'm with you too i'm like oh okay yeah you're right and then instead of saying like hey they're doing this to us it like changes and shifts the narrative of like yeah it's only because of trump man and trump will save you and i'm like all right you lost me man now you're telling me to go back to the state but just your red team part of the state you're like the blue team is terrible but the red team's pretty good man they're they're here to help you they're not into corporations they're not into war and i would love to revisit this after now everything that's going on you know and be like hey so uh what do you think about that right like yeah it's true what's going on but it's not in that narrative that you painted it in and i will say this the funny thing to me is when they show the obama phone like segment because there's a lady that got my obama phone got my obama right they're they're using that media tactic that they always do right when they go into a line of people that are going to vote for trump they don't they go find the biggest loudest idiot and i thought it was funny that they did the same thing and it's like well you're kind of using the same tactics that you're

supposedly against yeah they're using military grade psychological warfare weapons directly on

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Hidden treasures and overboard moments. I think some of the hidden treasures for me are for people that are not familiar with these topics. that's the only really hidden treasure for me i'm like if your mom your grandma or like your uncle or people that were forever military industrial complex bush people like maybe that this will like be like okay i can i can digest some of it there is some information that's good for people that are unfamiliar but i don't think there's any like for me personally except like for like comedy relief like that lady screaming about the obama phone was like a hidden gem for me but that was just like my own personal that's hilarious right like oh bible phone like she's just going crazy about it but other than that there's nothing for me that's tangible that i'm like oh this is a hidden treasure that i can't believe i watched this i think the hidden treasure for me is just

that there was a decently simplified explanation of the entire edward snowden and section 702 nsa it gets it sounds and it can get so complicated and part of that too i think is because uh the mainstream media but like it part of that's because they can so easily milk that topic for months by just keep talking about it over and over it's so simple the government records everything you do and say for 72 hours it's on paper this is that section 702 like the nsa is allowed to do this for security reasons but as part of that process they farm that crap out man they send it off to you know lowest paying bidder uh or you know lowest contractor that's willing to do it for the least amount of money they farm that stuff out and guess what some of that data gets leaked it makes it back into the private industry and then the conspiracy the whole shadow gate of this is that and the government that's hiring those private contractors they know that those private contractors aren't going to delete the data of course bro it's like it's their company it's their homeboys company so they're intentionally using this gap between the government and private industry so that the government can continue to do government things and then be like oh well you know we're just using data given to us from the private industry so like and then if the private industry gets held accountable they can tactically just claim bankruptcy or Or the government can step back in and say, you know, this is a national security concern. Thank you. You can't really look into this further. So it's this loophole that continues to exist. I think that's the silver lining is that even if you're not, even if you're like getting all hyped up about Obama phones and stuff, you might still get a decent understanding of all of this. And you don't have to read all of the long ass Edward Snowden articles and books like that's, that's the premise.

and for me overboard is they don't explain the detail like they kind of connect dots where it's like did you know that a former general a former cia a former nsa guy is in the private industry still collecting your data and they give it to the government you're like what yeah man like this is not anything new so again i'm looking through my eyes of where i'm like okay we know this there's no new information it's good for someone that doesn't know but then the way that you kind of portray it as it's only against donald trump really rubs me the wrong way and another overboard moment that really doesn't have to do with the film but me knowing at the time so as the film was getting released they're like millie weaver is getting arrested and they're like oh my god she's getting arrested for shadowgate and all this and it was this hype around it like she even played into it and it's like on herself one like i can't i don't even know why they're here what are they doing here so if fed into which hey marketing ploy i get it not i'm not hating on it right you got to do what you got to do but people were actually thinking she was arrested for shadowgate and she was not it had to do with the dispute with i think her either her mother-in-law or her mom like and she took a phone and then she like just family problems and that's what it turned out to be but for 24 to 48 hours people like they're trying to get they're silencing her that that to me was the overboard moment because they connected it to the film so anybody that it gave hype to the film where people are like these whistleblowers are all gonna go get killed and and arrested and really only millie weaver got arrested and then it turns out it had nothing to do with shadowgate whatsoever well that's what shadowgate wants you to think is that

it had nothing to do with that it was it was honestly like a whole career assassination ploy and i think the overboard is two or threefold for me but like one of those is that it's it's presented in like i have a few notes that kept coming up when i was watching this like is this a school book report because she'll list something it's like like brennan and like psychological warfare operations and so on and so forth and it's just like that's the filler that you add in for you know like okay i'm gonna move on to this next section now the biggest one for me the biggest overboard and criticism is it kind of feels like she just took existing research didn't really add get more depth didn't really add a lot of clarity she did a decent job of again organizing it in a way that you understand what could be a complicated program but it also it feels a little bit like your friends like yo check out this track i just made and it's just like a it's an existing song you've heard a million times before but then they just add like yo yo yo like they just add some like overdubbing to it and they're trying to present it like hey look i recorded this you're like bro i've heard this song this is a song on the radio right now you just kind of put a few effects on it this isn't even a remix you know you just kind of like added some things to it i get a really strong vibe from this quote-unquote documentary again it's like hey have you been watching fox for the last three months well here's all of the highlight clips with millie weaver inserting herself in between it and two whistleblowers and you don't really get anything

beyond that and one highlight that really kind of got irked me through the film like it's well put together as far as editing but the music man constant of this like eerie dude like oh my gosh we're under like i that annoys me like i i like a good soundtrack but you use the same music throughout it and it's all this eerie creepy so you can get locked in like oh my gosh i'm getting i get the effect that it's trying to give it just annoyed me and bothered me throughout the film

so so where how did you feel about it the first time you saw it versus now like is it dramatically different or just like a little bit different um it's it's not dramatic but it is

different because i kind of like watching and i was like dang this is good to get out there and i was already like you know how i think of trump or all politicians for that matter the state i didn't like that part of it but i hate it more now you know what i mean so so this is

the first time i i'd seen it i didn't get to see what came out i do got to say maybe one extra little um uh silver lining hidden treasure this if you found out that your aunt or your mom or like your cousin whatever if you found out that like they're going hard and watching info wars and they're getting into the QAnon. everyone's trying to come after donald trump and they're watching all this content this is probably one of the better more factual info wars 2020 documentary rabbit holes you can go down that still holds true you know what i mean that like i hate i don't know a better word than like nothing burger i hate that word because it's got this like where but like it's kind of that like this documentary it's it doesn't claim something like interdimensional beings are like eating babies or anything like that it's just like hey the nsa is stealing your data giving it the private industry and then allowing them to keep it and using it as a loophole 100 correct i don't think that's ever going to be false which uh might be kind of unique in the info wars library right for it to like hold strong that much even though it was politically charged it's that time sink or swim sync that's it yeah i mean i feel like i gave it again if if you're gonna have to watch an infowars documentary uh post 9 11 like post alex jones stepping back and uh delegating it to all the new waves this is probably not one that's gonna rot your brain as much it's not gonna radicalize you as much um but i don't know i don't think it's really where you can go and read an article about how this section um 702 for NSA worked and maybe some like Edward Snowden recaps

and it's information that's already given out that's kind of recycled they don't even explore further or try to connect this information to like the MKUltra programs or Mockingbird like connected to Obama phone that's what they do so for me it's a sync as well like it just doesn't have it the feel of nothing new no new information the same recycled stuff and you're not even trying of connected because for me if you use all this information and you're like they're doing this and i think it's connected to an old program or this is it's none of that it's just the same old same old we're like yeah they're stealing our information it's nothing new and you know who will not steal your information paranoid american if you go to paranoidamerican.com you may have some data he's trying not to get it to the nsa but there's not much he could do it but maybe if you buy a couple shirts he can talk to them and you know grease those wheels a bit so go to paranoidamerican.com go to killthemockingbirds.com this is another episode until our next voyage under the docks sink or swim

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