Muse

As a Massey Services technician, we have earned the trust of our customers. So much so, we're often called upon for a second opinion.

Could I interest you in the steak or lobster?

Hmm, what would my Massey technician do?

That's a lot to chew on, but I do know that Massey's Pest Prevention is the right choice for preventing pests from getting inside your home. Plus, our service is guaranteed or your money back. Massey Services, offering expert advice and much more. Expect more and get it.

now it's red eye radio gary mcnamara and eric hurley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day whether you're up late or you're just starting your day welcome to the show from the relief factor studios this is red eye radio all across america we are red

radio he is eric harley and i'm gary mcnamara hi what we did on our summer vacation well

i think it's really should be what others did on our summer vacation well it's uh

it it used to be as as recently as maybe probably 20 years ago maybe 15 years ago that i would try to get away from the news yeah yeah when i went on vacation it's impossible now I just I continue to do show prep all the time and I was this was yesterday I was like my gosh I've bookmarked a lot of things when I got up to 70 things that I had bookmarked there was still probably I don't know a hundred more things that I had bookmarked I just said don't think about it just go in and start on the current events of yesterday and move back through the week

if we want to comment on something else that's that's what I did I I kept bookmarking and I thought well i'm gonna have to do so much scrolling because it was every day uh you know it really doesn't stop while you're on vacation i mean you know i spent some downtime with with mom and dad but even then you know mom's got fox news on all the time i mean at two o'clock in the morning seriously mom is out in the other den with with fox news blaring so i get up i spent the night there a couple nights and i wake up and dad goes hey i'm sorry what did mom keep you up with the blaring tv i said no i slept like a baby waking up crying every every hour um but no i uh i i slept fine i didn't hear anything but mom mom will be there you know i mean she's always locked on to fox news whatever she's got you know uh on television you know it whatever you've got on television she's going to change it to fox news so it's it's uh and of course with all the notifications on on our phones i'm not going to just turn them off in fact i added a couple of different sources including politico because of the platner story and i thought you know i i know how to compartmentalize politico you know what i mean it's it's a leftist news group but they also also sometimes have stories that are accurate and then of course you wait for others to report the other sources to report on this whatever story they've got and of course they were the

first to report on the whole platinum thing um well i'll tell you this after uh the the time that we had off the the one thing that was crystal clear is there's no way i can retire there's there's

no it can't happen listen to me listen to me it cannot happen i'm telling you for the love of this nation this cannot happen i cannot be sitting around all day reading these stories and then going well i guess i'll go watch some youtube yeah i mean i'm not sure why about barney the dinosaur into it but yeah it's just it's like there's gotta have an outlet gotta

have an outlet i mean i woke up at at 20 to 10 and slept really good and it's like it's like i'm so i'm so glad i i'm going back to work not that i don't you know not that you know it i didn't have a productive vacation listen to me a productive vacation yeah vacation supposed to be not productive not in my case it's like okay yeah you have to recognize who you are right you have to have an understanding of self and then this self is not ready to have all of this information accumulate in the brain and know where to go. You can't do it yet. You can't do that.

But we are ready to go. You were up, and I was, this is Saturday night. I woke up at, because when, especially when we're on vacation, but I do it every weekend, I try to go to sleep early on a Saturday night and wake up early on Sunday morning, you know, like 4 or 5 a.m. That way I can, you know, a full 12 hours can go by, and I'll be tired. I go back to sleep and get back into the sleep pattern for during the week. So I woke up at, you know, like 1 a.m., went and got a glass of water, came back and went, I'll be able to go back to sleep. This is going to be, I've got to, you know, because I had set the alarm for 5. I said, but I'll be ready to go. And all of a sudden, well, let me just check the phone. And there was TMZ with the update that Lindsey Graham had died. And then that was it. I never got, wasn't able to get back to sleep until probably 5.30 and then slept just for an hour, and that was actually good because it put me right back into the sleep pattern. But we'll start out with that. And a couple of things that I want to play, because there's two things that hit me with Lindsey Graham. One is personal, and again, when I say personal, I didn't know the guy. I never met the guy. I didn't know him. So you look, and Lindsey Graham is one of those senators that would go anywhere to talk to anybody at any time you know he's if there's an issue out there

he's going to be out there talking about it but on capitol hill i mean in the senate uh he was the go-to guy if if the president had an issue with democrats he could send lindsey graham to talk to a democrat and and quite often not always but quite often lindsey graham could uh talk to a democrat and and change some boats it again it's you know that's relative if you think about the numbers but he was good he was a good i would say negotiator uh or diplomat in those regards and also foreign diplomat you know i mean he's been beside the president on a number of things the Middle East uh most recently just got back from Ukraine and just yesterday he got back just yesterday president and then he was on the phone with the president shortly possibly minutes before

he passed away so there uh uh two things it just that caught my my uh attention and you know to encapsulate somebody's life in two audio cuts isn't really fair to them. But these are just two things, two impressions that I immediately got that I had remembered. One was the sense of humor that he had. And this was after the death of Senator Joe Lieberman at a memorial service that was held and this is how lindsey graham uh began uh uh his um his memories of of uh of uh

joe lieberman here we go all right i learned today that his middle name was isidore his passing saved him a lot of grief

that was good and the other one i i think that he probably will be most remembered uh for and it's it's not to me politically what i think his most important contribution was to the united states but it's what i think people will remember and that is the kavanaugh hearings yeah uh and and this was this was uh lindsey graham at uh at that moment if you wanted an

fbi investigation you could have come to us what you want to do is destroy this guy's life hold this seat open and hope you win in 2020 you've said that not me you've got nothing to apologize for when you see sotomayor and kagan tell them that lindsey said oh because i voted for them i would never do to them what you've done to this guy this is the most unethical

sham since i've been in politics you know when when the change was made and grassley uh was no longer the uh chair of the senate uh judiciary committee and and then lindsey graham was assigned to that role i i was very i was pleasantly surprised i was glad because it was during that era of what i call the reawakening of lindsey grant um that's all relative but in you know there are times when there is a greater profile a certain person on capitol hill capitol hill uh will be more active than others and be more proactive

You

And I had been asking for during the first Trump term, who in the GOP or who, you know, out there that's not in the GOP yet, who is going to do the fighting that Trump has been doing? And again, this was back in his first term. Who is willing to go to bat and really fight for what they believe in, fight for what they believe is right? because it seemed like there was so much of this, I don't know, this just malaise, this just, you know, laziness or just lack of enthusiasm coming from the GOP. That with Kavanaugh. And that was when that fire was lit. And remember, the left just went at him, of course, as a result of that. and then you know you get into you go from there to then the the what he has done in in foreign relations with with the president um the there are key figures in negotiations uh now you know up to this point up to his passing he was head of the finance committee uh and and i don't know what the exact discussion was um with uh with ukraine but it is you know believed obviously they were going to talk about you know how much more money they're going to get you know or what the maybe what the sentiment on capitol hill was and how to change that sentiment i don't know but when he was on air force one recently talking about the president or talking with the president standing beside the president they were returning from a trip in the middle east um he he commandeered the mic for a minute or two and he was making you know very very very strong points um and some might say well that's a lapdog approach i didn't i didn't necessarily see it as that i thought to myself you kind of need to let the commander-in-chief speak on what is going to be what the policy is going to be because you know he was he was saying things as if it was going to be you know that was the decision that had been made and of course there hadn't been a decision made but I think if you listen to the language of Lindsey Graham and in his later years after this you know what I call the reawakening of, of Lindsey Graham, then you understand then that basically what he's talking about is his goals. What, what the goals should be. I don't think he was necessarily trying to speak for the president or create policy on the fly that he had no authority to, uh, on air force one, on that trip.

I think it was a matter of expressing what needs to be done. And also helping to navigate that political pool or that, well, they are political, the press pool on Air Force One. You know, when there's a gaggle on board Air Force One and the president has been very good about talking to the media. In fact, sometimes to a fault, we've said. But he has no problem stepping back there and answering questions and taking questions. And on that trip, I think Lindsey Graham was very proactive in expressing what the policy should be. So if you look at all the above and what the cumulative, I guess, total was in his political career, he gets a very good grade as a public servant from me. I'm not a member of a state or a citizen of a state. So I couldn't vote for him. But as we all know, when you serve in that role, it affects people outside your state, of course.

You know what I just, it drives me crazy is because we get it all the time. And I saw it with Lindsey Graham. I didn't agree with him all the time. Who does? Who does? Yeah. You know, I get that. Right. I really love your show. Not that I agree with you 100% of the time. Yeah. No? Yeah, right. what yeah yeah you don't agree with me 100 of the time well then rot in that place where the devil is yeah you know i mean it's like it's like i i i didn't expect that you i've never had that expectation but you you saw that a a lot uh and by the way we weren't you weren't talking you weren't referring to maine no i was i was not referring to him but boy we'll get we'll get to them and it's just so much so much on my mind

It's just busting out here. But with Lindsey Graham, more to say on him because I think that the strongest he has been, in fact, my sense is that you haven't heard the president be as critical of Ukraine. and if there's somebody remember when he got off the plane that's who you know that might have been the last person uh you know that the president talked to before he died yeah as you know as the president was even implying yesterday gets off the plane calls the you know wants to talk to the president about his trip I think that remember the early criticism of Ukraine I think it was the one thing that lindsey graham did and i've often talked about john bolton and and and john bolton you know the trouble that he's in now and i my sense is that you're right that he only took that job to write the book yep because the things that he did to write the book you know the tds took control over him but i always said john bolton's opinion on the enemies that we have I always think is something that's absolutely necessary, you know, in the the you know, in the United States government, Bolton and also Lindsey Graham expressed what I wholeheartedly believe is the truth about our enemies and especially radical Islam.

Yes. And he did a good job on Sunday morning news shows. Yes. As recently, a couple of times, in fact, where he would just he would just throw it back. This is exactly what's needed with the liberal activists in these newsrooms and on these, you know, at these desks that are on these shows.

And Lindsey Graham was highly capable in doing. And it's it's very important, you know, because I'll have the audio cut later on. but the president was basically asked a question over the weekend. You were saying a month ago about the Iranians that they are rational people, and today you called them scum. What changed? Trump, I got to know them. And Marco Rubio's behind him and smiling, you know, when the president said that. And you hear that from the president, and you say, how naive are you?

Yeah.

Right. How can you not look at the last 47 years? How can you not look at the history and say a month ago you thought you could trust him? The same thing with J.D. Vance. Right. That's one thing where you had Lindsey Graham stand completely and totally strong. Again, I didn't agree with Lindsey Graham on 100%. Yeah, I had to say that. But that's where he was strong. We'll get to more of it coming up. We are Red Eye Radio.

Hi there. This is Hope Zavara with Mother Trucker Yoga. And here's your health tip of the day. Healthy driver, healthy diesel, powered by Howes. Truck drivers are at high risk for carpal tunnel and grip issues from long hours at the wheel. Let's fix that right at the wheel. Using your steering wheel, stretch one finger at a time, starting from your thumb to your pinky. Hold each of those for 10 seconds. Then place all four fingers on the wheel and gently press and stretch your palm and wrist. Hold for another 10 seconds. Do this two to three times a day to keep your hands mobile, strong, and ready for action. Small, simple changes that can lead to big results so you can feel good again. Visit MotherTruckerYoga.com and HowIsProducts.com for more tips and support.

Coming up, more with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley. It's Red Eye Radio.

This episode is brought to you by Subaru. You know that place your mind always wanders to? The lake, the mountains, the homes of the people you love most. The completely redesigned 2026 Subaru Outback is built to help you get there. With legendary capability, standard symmetrical all-wheel drive, and the confidence to go further. The 2026 Subaru Outback. Love never looked so good. Visit Subaru.com slash Outback to learn more.

When you think about Crocs, you think the classic clog. But did you know there's also a canvas clog? A vegan suede clog. A coastal-inspired style. A style with studs, straps, and lots of sass. Honestly, I could keep going with the surprises. You've got to see them for yourself because there is literally a style for every kind of girl. So do your thing and head to crocs.com or a store near you now.

We are

Here on iRadio, he's Eric Carley, and I'm Gary McNamara. So when it comes to when I look at, you know, a Lindsey Graham, I think the most important thing that that he did politically was constantly was one of those people out there over a period of, you know, we're talking 30 years. Yeah. Talking, talking about the enemies that we face and why there are enemies. Right. And, you know, you look at you and you look at, for example, and I brought up, you know, Trump the other day saying, you know, And when he was asked, well, what's the difference? A month ago, you were like, these are rational people. They want to have it. You know, your vice president was out there saying, well, you know, this there's a you know, there's a new group of people out there that want peace. And and we know it's a load of crap. Right. If you know about Islamic radicalism, you know, it is. And you had really Rubio and you had the strong voices of Rubio and Lindsey Graham saying these people are enemies. They're not like us. Stop doing this. Right. And that's extremely important to have right now in our federal government.

Catch Red Eye Radio live every night on the Red Eye Radio app, available in the App Store. And I'm Gary McNamara, along with Eric Harley.

Download our Red Eye Radio app today, and you can listen when you choose. Coming up in just a minute more on the death and life of Lindsey Graham and everything that happened, and there was a ton of stuff while we were on vacation in just a minute.

When it comes to supplements, two things matter the most, that it works and that you can trust it, of course. Rather than just tell you about Relief Factor, we're going to let some of the customers do it. We hear from people every single day whose lives have changed, and we'd like you to hear a few of their stories. Chris has spent years doing physical work, leaving his feet sore at the end of the day. After starting Relief Factor, he felt so good he did something he had never done before. He actually ran a half marathon. Now he tells us, all of his friends and everybody he knows about Relief Factor, and I like to do that too. Chris, I may not be doing a half marathon anytime soon, but I'll tell you right now, because I used to do that. And because of my aches and pains, I slowed down, but Relief Factor got me back on track doing the things I love. I am walking, and I am exercising more thanks to Relief Factor. Let's get you started. let's get you back to the life you love three weeks just 1776 your three-week quick start 1776 all you got to do is go to relieffactor.com or 800-4-relief 800 the number four relief relieffactor.com or 800-4-relief you're going to connect with the friendly team and they're going to do everything they can to get you back on track and we hope to share your story soon

from relief factor you know one thing i uh wondered was when we went on vacation i mean social media was just full of soccer and and and the world cup's still on we're heading to the semi-finals and there's hardly anything on social media about it yeah what what happened

when we were oh the united states lost okay yeah yeah the whole big controversy and the

You know, the player's out, blah, blah, blah, blah, red tag, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I, it was, you know, it was one of those things that was going over my head. I go, I don't care. You know what I mean? I mean, it's totally over my head. I don't pay attention. I have no idea what any of it means. And I don't care. And I just, it's not my thing. For the fans who love it.

It's great, yeah.

That's awesome. I love watching fans, you know, really get enjoyment out of things. You know, I wouldn't cry over it if your team loses. You know something about that, Gary. Get it. Get it. Look, I cry over Jerry Jones, and that's apparently never going to end. But, you know, the whole thing is that with soccer, you know, we're not a soccer nation. There are plenty of soccer fans here, yes, but we're not a soccer nation.

We're a football nation.

And, you know, I mean, we get excited. People get excited. I don't get as excited as I used to, but, you know, you start getting into midsummer, then like next month.

month and you start you know oh man all these scrimmage games and oh man here comes the season and then of course you know you and i then share our disappointment for our team by usually mid october and knowing that they're out of it so it's you know i just thought to myself you know if there is a perfect sport for for fans you know if you want to talk like long term like enjoyment if you really just love the game right if you love the game even if your team isn't great if you love the game and watching the game it probably have to be baseball because there are so many games right i mean you're i love going to a baseball game and watching a game there i i don't much watch on tv but i love going to a game i love the sound you know of that bat just cracking that ball you know i i love i love that and but i'm not a huge baseball fan but i thought to myself if you're gonna get your money's worth i guess or a value out of a sport, probably going to be baseball.

I'd say football.

Well, now, football is – we are a football nation.

But I say that because there's fewer football games and the experience of it, the experience of going in to an NFL stadium. Okay, savoring it, savoring it. Especially if you have tailgating. It becomes part of the culture of that. Because, again, talking about – analyzing sports to me is fascinating. You know, and its effect on society, but the, because this is really more where I want to go on this is more on social media, starting out with, you know, the whole soccer and we're a soccer nation now and everything else. It's what is being driven on social media today, which obviously you and I, because we've been doing this for such a long time, we can pick out the BS immediately. Soccer is not going to be the national sport of the United States. It's going to remain football. But it is what you see on social media today, and I'm going to expand this to politics and everything that we have seen over the last week or so that we've been off, is social media. and I think you said this to me about a month ago, I don't know if it was on the air or off the air, that I use social media for the news sources, and I also use it for entertainment at times when I know somebody says something ridiculous when they're gaslighting. I love reading the comments. It's more entertainment. But I tend to think you may be on to a great point that social media is not reflective at all as to what goes on in normal conversations between people each and every day.

It's the, you know, it's the, to me it's become the effect of, you know, how you talk about, people talk about, and I've never actually done this. I've had it done to me, done to me. But, you know, people driving by and giving somebody the finger, you know, or something like that, screaming um i had a guy i was driving in florida on my way home from uh seeing visiting my daughter and son-in-law at the time uh at pensacola nas and and we were driving home and this guy got around us and we're in like a 45 mile an hour zone we were in a in a town and he was so angry i didn't noticed he was angry until he got in front of us then he had a sandwich in his hand and he was shaking that sandwich out the window and I was like what in the world's going on with this guy but I see this as I see social media as that kind of thing I mean you're not going to you know somebody makes you angry if you're standing in line at the grocery store or something you know you're likely not going to behave that way you're going to behave that way when you have the protection of anonymity if you don't use your real name on social media or the fact that you probably will never see this person face to face and you don't treat you wouldn't treat people you know you may say hey man i disagree with you that's wrong or something like that but it is it isn't the way that people interact it's not the normal way to interact the the there are some debates few and far between healthy debates you know i think david limbaugh put some

things up you know and people then just go crazy on his you know comments and it's like you know the guy wasn't trying to make that point and and he goes back and he'll respond to comments right

well to me it's the the the left is clearly back on x oh yeah i mean and and to to take this i mean when when uh after the you know with mitch mcconnell last week with lindsey graham uh and lindsey graham uh passing away uh everybody wishes to there there seems to be this obsession this almost addiction obsession about wanting to speculate as far out as possible and then insult anybody or demonize anybody who doesn't agree with your speculation that is based on zero evidence In fact, the defense of it is the fact that, well, tell me that it's not true. You can't prove or have no evidence to base what you're saying is true, yet your defense is nobody can defend the fact that it's not true, so your narrative becomes an absolute. That's the thing that just blew my mind since last week, where everybody had it. I know that Laura Loomer was out there. she's one of the ones that first came out and said mcconnell's dead mcconnell's dead and then you just see the response uh uh uh out there what's he conspiracy theorist guy who had to

file bankruptcy oh uh yeah um down in uh in in texas yeah i just can't think of his name

uh you know it's almost as if since he's gone bankrupt and that that all of his followers

Alex Jones.

Alex Jones. They've all gone out on their own and said, okay, let's promote every conspiracy theory possible out there.

Well, and they're doing it for clicks.

Yeah, and it's just, but it doesn't get, but it's almost as if it's inside the beltway, arguing inside the beltway, and I get the feeling that nobody is paying attention. And I look at what I look at, and again, it's anecdotal evidence, but what I look at is all the people that I know that range from the right to the left. And none of them are posting anymore. They're hardly posting at all. It's almost as if, okay, this is just going too far. I don't want to be a part of this discussion. And so, yeah, I mean, it started with the, you know, over the top on both sides about soccer and everything else. But I just wanted to use that as a jumping off point to everything that you saw about Lindsey Graham, because understand if there was one thing that you could get from social media and the left's reaction on social media to Lindsey Graham dying, the demonization of Republicans is not going to stop when Trump is out of office.

No, no, no, not at all. You know, and I'll fold the whole Plattner thing into that. You know, I think the Plattner thing is aligned with the Eric Swalwell thing based on the similarities of accusations and things like this, right? But also that it was known by everybody. On Capitol Hill, Swalwell was known as the Snapchat king, the king of Snapchat or something like that. They knew. They knew. With Plattner, they knew of the current allegations and maybe not the Politico story that dropped, but they knew. And we said it. I remember the day I said it. I don't remember exactly what day it was, but I remember one day saying this isn't going to be you and I have been doing this for too long. If this was going this hard in the primary season against Plattner in terms of accusations, then expect greater accusations to come out between now and the election in November. And that was not that was never not going to be the case. it was always going to be that i knew something something else would come out you can't trust this because there seems to be a a pattern of of alleged behavior and so when you think about the way that all of this you know was and then all of a sudden you know both of them are out you know, Plattner's gone, Swalwell's out, you know, their focus has to be on selling socialism and communism. And of course, the continued demonization of the right and how the right just want to be dictators.

yet they're the ones selling communism i mean it's it's bizarre but that's what they want to focus on anything that distracts from that focus is out we are red eye radio get in touch with

red eye radio toll free at 866 90 red eye

We are Red Eye Radio. He's Eric Carley, and I'm Gary McNamara. I mean, part of it was, you know, why everybody jumps on immediately when somebody dies, and they have their speculation of what it is. And if you disagree with them, then you are demonized like you can't believe. Oh, yeah. And you can tell it's on. Oh, must have been they got the shot. Instagram must have got the shot or whatever, and everybody speculates on it. We now know the coroner's saying aortic, what do you call it? Dissection. Dissection, right. The separation because of cardiovascular disease. And so, I mean, I look at that and I wonder, as somebody who has type 2 diabetes and you're always paying attention to your circulatory system, those are the kind of things I wonder, and I have no answer, did he know he had it? right right you know for example um tim russert knew he had heart disease right right you know when when he died when he died way back when um he knew it he knew that there was a possibility of this happening don't know whether he knew it or or not some things can be detected detected

in fact some of these very cases with aortic dissection can be detected uh through leaks or or, you know, a scan. I have something different with my heart that was detected, and they're watching it, and everything's fine right now. But, you know, he's so busy. He was so busy, Lindsey Graham. It's a good question, you know, whether or not he was aware of it. Top of the hour news is brought to you by House Products. Visit houseproducts.com.

This is Red Eye Radio on Westwood One.

Take your flexibility beyond the mat with PayPal. Pay nothing at checkout, then enjoy a flexible monthly payment plan that works for you with no sign-up or late fees. Find yours then, and an easy way to pay with PayPal. Download the PayPal app to get started. subject to approval pay monthly consumer loans made by web bank available through paypal link nmls 910457 learn more at paypal.com pay monthly hey babes it's paris hilton so i was checking my

points balance in the hilton honors app the other day and yeah i've got about a billion which feels excessive even for me just kidding you can never have too many hilton honors points and i want to do something iconic this summer so i'm giving away all my paris points just find somewhere you've always wanted to stay, then go to my socials or Hilton's and tell me about it. Just make sure you're a Hilton Honors member, and I might be sending you Paris points, because when you want points that make your summer even hotter, it matters where you stay. Now, it's Red Eye Radio.

Gary McNamara and Eric Hurley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day whether you're up late or you're just starting your day welcome to the show from the relief factor studios this is red eye radio

all across america we are red eye radio he is eric harley and i'm gary mcnamara welcome and good morning thanks so much for uh for being here hi uh by the way also thanks to

dan mandes oh yeah dan mandes always does a great job filling in and we are very grateful to have the Marconi Award-winning Dan Mandis. You folks there at WTN in Nashville, you get them every day, so you're fortunate. And we're very fortunate to have him as a part of our red-eye team. We're not sure what management has on him, you know, to force him into doing our show, but we're grateful. There's got to be something. There's got to be something. There's got to be something going on. I'm not saying it's illegal. I'm just saying. gotta be something in the some skeletons in that closet no thanks dan we really appreciate dan is the hardest working guy he's up during our show uh but uh you know throwing on show prep on x and social media all the time

He's up right now, I'm sure. And he's always throwing up stuff. And, of course, if you are in Nashville, you know. They have such a great team there in Nashville at WTN. We're just so grateful to be a part of that station and all of our great stations. I did spend some time in gratitude over the vacation, just thinking about all the things that we get to do and all the great stations that carry us.

You know, I just, I cannot believe you said that. And the reason I can't believe you said that is that's where I was going to go, and we did not discuss this.

No, we didn't. No.

And I was going to say that one of the things, I think I mentioned it last hour, one of the things that I normally get to do on vacation is catch up with reading.

Yeah.

And I just had there. I got a good friend in the hospital. You know, I visited dad. I just had a ton of stuff to do around contractors. The house is 20 years old. So it's like I didn't have a moment to, you know, to to do recreational reading, which I like. I'm like I've got I'm in the middle of like three different books. I can't read one book at a time, but it takes me, but I catch up on vacation. I just, there is just such an enormity of news out there. And a lot of it's because of, of, of social media and the internet, everything else over the last 20 years that it's completely changed. And I just, it was such a busy news week. I never got to do my recreational reading, but one thing I did do though is, and it's about nine months, 10 months old. I had YouTube, you know, I'm just shuffling. It goes between different podcasts, music, whatever. I don't get the commercials. I pay not to get the commercials on YouTube, and it's worth it. You can just let the thing roll. Well, all of a sudden, what comes up is the interview that Mike Rowe did with Gene Simmons from Kiss. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd never seen it. I only saw the first half of it, but it was so incredibly good. But Gene Simmons was talking about Again, he was, you know, came to the United States Born in Israel And he talked about gratitude And I really, really, really think that everything that we see Because we've covered a lot here But it all sort of mixes in together When you look at the insanity You know, the hatred The happy that, you know, Lindsey Graham is dead You know, from my perspective, Lindsey Graham, you could look at as a moderate Republican over the last 30 years on things like, you know, he would throw out the comprehensive immigration reform, you know, all of that. But he was viewed as a moderate Republican. It doesn't matter. The hatred that exists right now. And you and I often talk about what makes it because Gene Simmons was he was hitting exactly what we were talking about before we went on vacation, you know, talking about the United States of America. And he was talking about something that we've always said. I'm not jealous of anybody. I've never been jealous of anybody ever. I've never said I wish I was somebody else. no i am so full of gratitude just to have opportunity i celebrate other people's success i'm like man that is such an awesome story and gene simmons was talking about it he was like you know look at look at elon musk look at what he's done look at you know uh jeff bezos and what he has done and he goes through these people he goes you know and and he said okay he's been probably

paying attention milton friedman he said all these people look at these people did it wasn't government agencies that did this now these are people that we should be celebrating every single day but we don't no we don't we we don't we we demonize the people that actually create the wealth that keeps the system going and then complain that the system must be flawed because they create these incredible products and industry that employs you know millions of people and somehow they're the problem but then he got back to talking about the positive attitude that he still has which is what we have yeah we have a very positive attitude about the united states about the constitution because we have so much gratitude for the freedom and opportunity we've been given. Our expectations are not to be taken care of. Our expectations is not for somebody else to pay the freight for what I want now. When you have grants,

gratitude you appreciate it when you believe that you're a victim and constantly oppressed because you've been brainwashed to think that of course you're going to be an angry son of a bee

yeah no that's it you know my wife is probably my greatest source of that inspiration to stay grateful in terms of anybody outside of myself now my parents always taught me that uh you know Your parents, my parents, my parents were both born during the Great Depression. Your parents lived through the Great Depression as kids. And if you look at, you know, that, I think there's a lot that's passed down from that. But it doesn't always have to be that. You see people that come here from other countries. You see, you know, the Gene Simmons or you and I both met Uber drivers who are from other countries and that are working around the clock because they can. They're like, no, this is great work, and I love staying busy, and I love the opportunity. I look around me, and I see other opportunity. This is an innovative entrepreneurial mind, and the mindset, that is the mindset. You know, I don't think you necessarily have to have an entrepreneurial or innovative creative mind in order to be grateful. But those who are grateful often create opportunities if you think about it. Because if you're grateful, say, for your job or whatever it is, if you like what you're doing, you're grateful for opportunity, then you're likely to be more present when that opportunity arises. You're likely to be more vocal about presenting, you know, a chance at that opportunity. and and and to me i think that's everything i i i think it's um it's just if you don't if you're not in that mindset and we can all get down every once in a while you know i mean we go through things you know we go through life you went through a few years ago uh the loss of your mother i recently went through the loss of my brother uh then a man i've known since i was nine years old uh recently uh called me and told me about his wife uh passing and and you know and

i have a good friend right now who's in real trouble yeah good friend right now going through

that and both and you know we both have parents in the hospital by the way is what i meant yeah and and we both uh have parents who are who are going through illnesses and and aging your your dad's 100 years old which is remarkable um and so there are always concerns in life but you know for me if you don't understand that opportunity and and i think that's it it's and you don't have to be in terms of wealth you don't have to want to be elon musk it is creating your own level of opportunity along the way and being present and to me the best part of that is being present because I love being in an in an active situation in an active atmosphere where people are doing things where you know things are going on and and happening because I think there's something to learn in any of those scenarios and if you know if you shut yourself out. This is the one, quite frankly, that I didn't like about vacation is there were a couple of days when I needed to catch up on some things around the house. Um, and a couple of things when I, I just barely went outside, you know, I mean, the heat is a bit oppressive and so it doesn't allow for opportunity. Um, but I was getting a ton of things done. I was highly productive up until sunday afternoon when i when i had to go to bed for the show and it was you know that's great but there's also that purpose when people ask about you know warren buffett or elon musk or jeff bezos they could all retire or could have retired years ago and they keep going because the innovative mind, the creative mind, the passion for what they're doing and how it benefits others, but also they're doing it for that. They're not necessarily doing it for the money. I'm sure they love the money, but they're doing it for the sake of fulfilling a personal mission statement. Richard Branson talked about when he was young. his mother when people freaked out about this his mother dropped him off and said okay find your way

home and he was a kid I forget how old he said he was eight nine years old and he found his way and the point was and he you know later learned that she was nearby she was not very far but she wanted him to learn a path she wanted him to learn to navigate his way to find his way it was a very different time it was in great britain you know but he that innovative mind you know became i'm guessing from that kind of instruction from his mother or maybe she just recognized he had an innovative mind to begin with you know when i think about elon musk hey i'm gonna make a rocket that comes back and lands down on earth it just comes back and basically parallel parks itself on on you know on the on the landing pad and i'm thinking to myself that sounds like something a six-year-old would say in fantasy if you if you 30 years ago if you had said that out loud it's like who said that a six-year-old because that's never going to happen but if you think about what they have done and how many companies he's running and all of the things he's into uh there are two answers either he's been cloned multiple times or he is somebody who is always working on something and that's his passion the the longer i live the the more uh i have

observed that everything that you see about where we are as a society is completely delusional and the difference is people that have gratitude that appreciate freedom and want that freedom they want the opportunity which they know will include failure yeah which they want and the other side that we see because i believe that when you have gratitude and you analyze things what am i you know what am i grateful for what do we have and you and i've talked about you know before the fourth of before the fourth before independence day you know how the democrat socialists of america want to get rid of the constitution you know they want to completely rewrite it and and all that and we're like no way no because we understand what it means and we have tremendous amount of gratitude that we have the separation of powers that we have you know the the the bill of rights that it was designed this way but the other side when you look at it and it's the same thing i think with socialism socialism is is based on class warfare that's how you sell it but to me racism has never uh well i won't say it never in my life it has never been the major problem right the major problem is jealousy envy and selfishness and selfishness is not large corporations making a legitimate profit greed and selfishness is when you believe you have a right to what others have earned right and when you have that you have to be delusional in your mindset you've got to be angry if you're a victim if you're going to pretend that you're a victim of the man or society the only way you can sell that is what is with unhinged anger and rage and fury and that's exactly what you're seeing from the left because that's what envy jealousy and selfishness brings it brings out the worst character traits in a human being where gratitude i believe does the opposite yeah when you live in a free society you can actually look and say what is reality what is the truth when you are just immersed in jealousy envy and selfishness you justify it by saying you're a victim and therefore you're always angry and at the same time completely delusional about what reality is you know when

my brother passed away he had a very modest set of assets he had paid for his uh house he was not married didn't never had children uh he paid for his truck he had money coming in and money in a 401k money in savings and he told me several times he said i i have all the money i need i'm i'm good you know he's buying things upgrading his house you know here and there it was an older house and i just remember him saying you know i i i it's hard to believe that i'm at this point of retirement and that i've done it and he felt

felt grateful. He felt grateful for that success at that level. Again, not Elon Musk money, but plenty of money that was going to be coming in for the rest of his life for however long he left. And he died unexpectedly a couple of years after that, after retiring. But now I look back on that and that's a success story in terms of what he did with his career and his assets living below his means and he was happy you know and it's i think that's how you have to live your life

we are red eye radio this morning's usda farm report is brought to you by house products tested trusted guaranteed since 1920 apple growers in six states most in the northeast

now have additional relief available after crops suffer damage from a late April freeze. As Agriculture Department Undersecretary for Farm Production and Conservation Richard Fordyce explains through the Risk Management Agency.

The indemnities usually are not paid out until after harvest and in some cases after the marketing of those apples. What RMA has elected to do will assess what the yield looks like and we will pay the indemnity up front. and then certainly encourage the producer to go ahead and harvest what is available. Then we'll reassess if the indemnity pay exceeded what the loss was, then we'll probably need a little of that money back. If it didn't, the producer keeps that indemnity payment.

Crop insurance agents in eligible states have more details about this emergency relief. I'm Rod Bain reporting for the U.S. Department of Agriculture in Washington, D.C.

This report brought to you by Cenex Fuels and Lubes.

We'll be right back with more Red Eye Radio with Eric Carley and Gary McNamara.

We're Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Carley and I'm Gary McNamara. good morning uh so yeah that's one of the things over vacation you know because you're not doing the show every day and you get to observe and do a lot of different things and I just went wow you know so many things on the left almost everything on the left right now is completely and totally delusional and everything is based I mean it just verifies what I've what I have learned and observed over the decades upon decades upon decades upon centuries upon centuries that i've been alive is that uh uh selfishness jealousy uh and envy is what drives the liberalism and the socialism of that party it makes it easy right to justify being a victim when you're not a victim right gratitude to me is such a big key in having a happy life yep it really it is

Transcription by CastingWords

Spend of major ad networks. Advertise on LinkedIn. Spend $250 on your first campaign and get a $250 credit. Go to linkedin.com slash campaign. Terms and conditions apply.

PNC Bank brings you the call of the wild money moves. Shh, listen.

Hey, guys.

That's the sound of a multi-level marketing pitch.

This is life-changing, you guys.

Sounds like she wants you to buy lots of essential oils.

They are so essential.

And then have all your friends buy essential oils.

Are you more of a geranium or a lavender fan?

Don't look her in the eyes. Guard against wild money moves with PNC Bank. Brilliantly boring since 1865.

Daytime is overrated. Nights are where it's at. With Gary and Eric on Red Eye Radio.

And we are Rudd Eye Radio. I'm Gary McNamara, along with Eric Harley. Download our Rudd Eye Radio app today, and you can listen when you choose. Breaking news just from a few minutes ago, actor Sam Neill has died.

Yeah, that came across in the last hour or so, Sam Neill.

He passed away after what his family called sudden and brief illness, unexpectedly died. Now, he had been diagnosed with cancer several years ago, and he announced in April that he was cancer-free. In the statement, they said that Sam remained cancer-free, but the loss was sudden and unexpected. but blessed by the fact that Sam remained cancer-free. So they said they would like to express their deepest gratitude to the staff at St. Vincent Private Hospital for their incredible care. This is in Australia. He's from New Zealand. I think he lived mostly in Australia. More details will be shared, the family rights. But for now, on behalf of the family, we ask that you respect their privacy as they navigate this immeasurable loss.

78 years of age. People know him from Jurassic Park. I never – he did such a good job in whatever omen he was in.

Yeah, it was the third one.

Right, where he was – and he was the devil, right?

Yeah, it was The Final Conflict, which was 1981, and the adult version of Damian Thorne, he pulled off in a way that was, to me, scarier in many ways than the child version of that character.

That's the memory I have. Anything else he did, the look on his face was so evil that I never forgot. I was like, I don't like his character at all. That's the whole point. You're not supposed to like his character. He was a politician in that movie as well. Yes, exactly. I forgot about that. You're right.

It kind of relates.

So when he was in Jurassic Park, it was like, yeah, whatever. it was it was that look that he gave that he would give the camera as the adult damien in that the omen what the third omen i guess yeah yeah yeah that is what stayed with me and it's like

i don't i don't like him at all and i'll tell you too um that 60s mod hairstyle that he had that they had the character basically wearing in that in that movie it was kind of like a you know politician when he put his suit on but it had this i don't know it just had this throwback feel but it was you know this was just years after the exorcist and of course the omen the omen actually uh which opened on june 6th 1976 so sixth month sixth day of 76 the 666 thing as they did as a kind of a gimmick uh went on to make a lot of money and they in fact used some of that money It was said to help fund, uh, the, the production, uh, closing of the, the, the, the finishing of the production of star Wars and some other movies. I was a huge movie. It was a massive, massive movie. He was not in that, but, but was in the third one. When you think of Jurassic park too, the Jurassic park thing kind of changed. Uh, if you look at CGI, uh, it changed a lot of things, but Sam Neill, was a character he wasn't in the second one he came back for the third one and you know um he just had that you know that look you know he's there reluctantly you know he's kind of like thinking you know oh this isn't going to go well you know as the expert and uh no but he he also

expressed terror in his eyes very he had a he had a way of making his face to me at least oh yeah in in character development as an actor he like i said for me he'll always be damien the adult damien omen the antichrist yeah and i scared the hell out of me as a character but then you know the fear you could see in jurassic park he just had that way with his face what i like though uh is i read that on his social media he would post uh images of of his farm animals and yeah and he gave he gave them names yeah like he named his farm animals uh after

his friends and other celebrities for example this must again from jurassic park his chicken

he called laura dern the chicken i love it laura dern of course another star of jurassic park right so a great sense great sense of humor and he you know he said years ago he was asked well why do you still live down under you know why haven't you moved to hollywood he's like no i can do everything from here if they call me about a role and i feel like it's worthy and i need to audition then i'll make the flight or or not i this is my life is here russell crowe's kind of done that uh who also has animals he's actually got a beef ranch um but you think about you know basically make being able to make a choice and i wouldn't say i would say sam neill in terms of his talent was an a-list actor you know he had a very consistent if you go to his idmdp page he's he's done so many things that i think he was great um but you know i mean he's not like the superstar superstar you know kind of kind of actor uh massive box office aside from jurassic park of course um you know and so but he still made his decision to be you know look i don't want to live in hollywood by the way i was reading more and more articles recently about actors not wanting to live in california and hollywood at all anymore they've they've they've bought you know ranches somewhere else they're living in other other states they want to get out of the craziness a friend of mine who works in hollywood uh tells me that it's just it seems from his perspective to be collapsing, you know, based on the fact that it's, you know, it's California, but it's also the fact that there are so many other places to do production. You know, why not live in areas and any area you want, and you can also travel to places to do those movies, shows, or whatever

you do. I remember this goes back over a decade, but there were just rumors. Remember that a A company, not to be mentioned, was, you know, might buy, you know, our show among others.

Right.

And when we heard that, it was like, well, if that happens, we'd have to move to New York City. That's not happening. Yeah. You and I said, no, actually. We would be done at that point because one of the great things about doing this show, one of the things that makes us happy and probably, again, other people maybe would love to work in Washington. or new york yeah and they're you know they're great cities yeah but i that's not me it's just not it's not where i want to live i'm so happy that we get to do our show from texas i was

offered twice jobs in new york city and both times i said no i i and they would have been i mean catapulting my earnings you know and i just thought to myself no it's it's not where my family is. It's not where my heart is. And I don't think I could bring the same experience and presentation. You know, the life experience I think is important. In fact, it's critical to what we do. You know, whatever you're bringing to the table, your compassion for your passionate, not compassion, your passion for whatever you believe has to be expressed. But I think a lot of that is from your life experience, and it would drive me crazy. I mean, bless all the people who do it. You know, Larry O'Connor, our buddy, and all those folks at WMAL, you know. My sister lived in the Beltway for three years, and that was about all she could handle. Her husband is a government contractor, and so they moved out, and now they live in a ranch in Texas, and he works from home.

Well, I mean, especially when we're talking about, you know, if we were based in Manhattan, you almost have to live there. there's no way no way i was going to live in manhattan yeah just absolutely and and again people love it yeah you know and this is like arguing soccer or football right you either like it or you don't and it's just you know the personal taste of uh of what you like one other celebrity note that we have to make though a comment from mick jagger about bruce springsteen oh yeah yeah yeah he's like well you know why don't you talk politics think about this mick jagger 470 years old yes and now he's being asked about his politics yeah no right like exactly he's like nobody wants to hear my nobody wants to hear me on stage ranting about about about nobody comes to the show to hear me talk about politics yeah it's

rock and roll i know it's only rock and roll but i like it so i you know it's it's funny because i just read uh an article about about him and it was about the fact that he's so he's in such good shape and he says i don't do drugs and i exercise every every day and he's 83 this month 83 and he still dances around on stage like he did back in the 60s and 70s you know and that's the thing again you know a lot of rockers will you know they can't they can't do and do what they do well Mick Jagger really never sang out of his range so vocals wise I'm sure it's not easy but he can still hit those notes because nobody knows what the hell he's saying and that Ron wood said that one time he goes i don't have any idea what he's saying i don't even know i can't tell i don't know who cares and it's you know but it's if you think about what the stones have done it's it's next to the impossible in their field and they've stayed relevant and they can fill stadiums except for the disco album well yeah i you know to me i didn't mind it because i thought to myself well i'll just chalk this up as to kind of making fun of disco um but but my wife and i are very first one of our very first dates not a very first but our one of our very first dates the steel wheels tour in was that 89 90 uh at here in texas and and i told her i said you know we weren't married yet and i said you know we should probably go we got free tickets and there are great tickets and we should probably go because this will probably be their last tour and the writer that wrote the recent story that i read said you know it was back when it was back uh when uh right after charlie watts died he he said i've got a chance to see the stones and this is you know the first tour since charlie has died and this would be a probably a time when they would bow out maybe when charlie's after charlie's gone say goodbye boom boom boom and here they are they've made two albums since then and uh i think they have a new one coming out and he's 80 mick jaggers 83 and um i think uh uh you know if you if you look at keith richards he must be donating

blood to science well one of the one of the when you when you talk about the the final tour i remember the married with children where al bundy was working with his father uh on their car in the garage and he was a senior in high school yeah and his father's like you know what are you gonna do what are you gonna do i meant that well dad we got this really big concert i really met this great chick named peg and we're going to the rolling stones farewell tour concert tonight so that must have been the 80s right no no no that would have been like 70 71 72 oh it's a throwback in the show yeah it was a throwback on the show of when he was in it's like i've met this really the i really dig this chick peg and we're gonna go to the rolling stones farewell tour concert well think about it i mean so it had to be like 70 or 71 because in the show he would have been a couple years older than i was right timeline but yeah i just loved how he just said no we're not going to talk politics nobody cares what i think right they come to hear the music that you know going all the way back around to sam neill sympathy for the devil yeah there you go exactly we are red eye radio coming up more with gary mcdemara

and eric harley it's red eye radio

We are on our radio. He is Eric Carley and I'm Gary McNamara. And Mitch McConnell making a statement yesterday. I mean, that went, that went, the conspiracy theories on that went through the wall.

They did because we were told from some reports that when it initially happened that there was a report from his address that it was cardiac arrest. And his doctors are saying it's related to polio. He had a fall and he's saying he should be back soon. I don't know why the disclosure or the statement wasn't put out sooner. Four weeks is a long time.

So I question that. Well, it all started with Laura Loomer saying that he had died. Right. That blew up on social media. You know, the only thing I would question from his camp is, all right, you know, why didn't you put that out sooner? We all understand he had childhood polio. So, you know, why was that such a secret so long? This is Red Eye Radio on Westwood One.

Athletic Brewing Company crafts award-winning non-alcoholic beers for those who want to be part of every round. With over 185 flavor awards, they're exceptional NA beers that fit your lifestyle and any social occasion. Summer's full of good times, and athletic fits right in. Go to athleticbrewing.com to have brews delivered to your door, or find them at a bar, restaurant, or store near you. Near Beer. Athletic Brewing Company. Fit for all times.

This is the story of The One. The one who keeps multiple buildings running smoothly, day after day. Plumbing that blows, HVAC that hums, cleaning supplies that keep surfaces sparkling. That's why she counts on Granger. With easy reordering online and 24-7 support, Grainger helps her keep the product she needs on hand. So shelves stay stocked and buildings stay ready. Call 1-800-GRAINGER, click grainger.com, or just stop by. Grainger, for the ones who get it done.