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all across america we are red eye radio he is eric hurley and i'm gary mcnamara good morning welcome hi you know i just gotta start with this uh you know on yesterday's show uh one of the things that we we talked about was on on social media the response to uh lindsey graham's death yeah and and how you know you you and i've said obviously the left is back especially in the comment sections of anything the the the left has returned uh uh to x i mean they're nuts they're insane but they have returned but i mean the number of it's we live and and i don't believe as i've said yesterday every single person that i know whether they're on the right or left doesn't do this the people that i actually know they don't do it they might do it anonymously on social media they don't do it in conversations with me or from what i know anybody else and they don't i don't see them commenting in this particular way but it's the the the the speculation it's coming up with a speculation based on zero evidence and anybody who criticizes you on the speculation no matter how absurd the speculation becomes is all of a sudden your mortal enemy for life yeah and it's just you you shake your head going what's going on and and then yesterday uh i i had posted uh both on facebook and and on an x a picture that my sister took on saturday night My sister was in Alcott, New York, which is right on Lake Ontario, southeast of Toronto, and about 42 miles right across Lake Ontario. The sun was setting. She took her camera out, snapped the picture, and it's a beautiful skyline of Toronto. Yeah. All right? So I put it on X and Facebook, and, you know, if I post it on my stuff, it's fine. well there was some uh a group from uh the toronto area because they had the they're based on the zip code or excuse me the zip code the area code of of uh of ontario picked it up and posted it they posted it on instagram my sister's picture and i was like whoa and they said this and i just put on anything i said well i said yeah i said my sister you know my my sister posted that the other day and i said you must have got it off my ex or facebook account and they came back you know and they said we're sorry do we need permission i go no no no she could care less you know and then she found out about it she was thrilled well the comments that i was getting the comments that not that i was getting but the the people who posted it it was like this proves the earth is flat

what are you what are you talking about and then this huge debate starts of whether the picture shows the earth is flat and the best one was you can't see the bottom of the buildings you only see the top that's the evidence that there's curvature i mean so so that started then there was a guy you know that responded to my comment when my sister took it he goes yeah our city is much better than what you people have down there it's like it's a if you go to my if you go to uh my my uh my my x page uh gary at red eye one you can see it it's a beautiful picture i mean the sun i just saw it when i logged on just a few minutes ago here isn't it a great picture yeah no it's a beautiful yeah she just she just snapped it and you can see the cn tower and everything else yeah but i just i burst out now i don't respond to that i don't get into arguments anymore on social media i just don't yeah well especially things like that you know you and i don't get into the reason that that we won't i think i can speak for you

that we don't we've talked about it before the reason that's why i think i can speak for you on this is that we both have the same take on this i'm not i'm sorry with all due respect to our friends ben shapiro and others who will you know go back and forth with people sometimes david limbaugh does it and you know these are all brilliant people and they do it it's kind of what they do though what we do is radio and i'm not going to have because so it's not fair I don't spend my life on social media. In fact, I spend very little of my life on social media except for the fact that I use it for show prep. In other words, I'm not posting. I'm there looking for things. I'm looking for maybe, you know, another take on a story or something to see what the chatter is about, right, when something breaks or when a story comes out. I don't want to sit there all day like Chris Cuomo and have to eat dirt on, what did he say? The Constitution doesn't protect hate speech. Remember that whole thing?

And it just went on for like 15 hours. Well, and I learned that when Facebook first came out, and I've told the story on my take on social media, and it was a well-known actor from the 60s and 70s, Robbie Rist. He used to play guitar with another friend of mine, Paul Pope. They had a great band. He's a great guitarist. He really is. He's a great pop guitarist because I've seen him live many, many times. Right. And so I knew him and he knew me, I mean, because he played with my buddy for years. This was in the 80s and early 90s, the mid-90s, I think. It might have been even longer. I'm not really sure. And so I got to know him. And when Facebook first came out, we got into, I'll never forget, it was the first discussion I had. And this was on Facebook. X really wasn't a thing at that point. Twitter wasn't even a thing at that point. This is so early on. I can't believe I saw it the other day. it's like 17 years ago a memory on facebook i'm like you got to be kidding me it's been that long yeah crazy it blew me away it's crazy well i i remember waking up on a friday you know waking up on a friday from the show maybe it was 10 11 o'clock whatever and i responded to him midnight 12 and a half hours later we were still going at it and it was just like you see today other people jumping on board changing the topic bringing up something going down a different rabbit hole that had nothing to do with it and i went this is useless well no it really yeah well

because you know the thing is is basically it's everybody in the world potentially well i guess anybody with access to social media or that particular social media forum wanting to have the last word that's the whole thing yeah it's you know they're they're they're looking to have the last word because they they think having the last word means you've won the argument right and you get that's a great point you get this illusion of having the last word because i've gone to bed i i actually know how to turn it off in fact i prefer to turn it off whenever possible and you know i i have my alerts set you know because of the show i i get i don't know how many notifications you know every hour every minute um and i've got it set now to where things come to me i don't rely as much on social media but social media is one of the ways to see all right, what's the chatter about? What are people, you know, saying about it? What's the take on it? That's even getting annoying because of the tribalism and everything else. And as you mentioned, I think on yesterday's show, the liberals are definitely back on X. But you look at that, you know, that scenario and wanting to have the last word or thinking you have the last word means you have won the argument is really the mindset of too many people on social media they think if you don't respond wow I guess I showed him and or her and that's next thing you know you know it's it's just become this useless vastness of nothing

it's it's just i i really don't shane gillis talked about his like his uncles and that that have no following on on on twitter at all and then like zero and then they'll just you know aided joe's pizza today it was delicious and it's just tweeted into the void you know nobody sees it it just goes off into the void that's kind of where i see social media there are some very good points made on social media by critical thinkers that we follow and and that's the important stuff it's the comments it's it's it's the it's the yeah comments is the right word because it's not really a debate if you can't have you know the back and forth and have a debate and quite frankly i think the best debate is to have in person but the liberals won't have that at all and that's the other thing too they treat it as you know um the drive-by you know of uh you know flipping that certain finger in the air toward you and thinking well i'm never going to meet this person i'm never going to see that person that's embarrassing when you pull up to the same grocery store and then next thing you know they again you know they think they're the king of the road or whatever they think they've won the argument you know on social media and and the fact is it doesn't work that way debate doesn't work that way and you learn that very quickly when you're in talk radio if you stay in talk radio for any amount of time and you and i hold on a second what's the date tomorrow is 21 years not today it's it's uh not today tuesday but tomorrow Wednesday the 15th, 21 years as a team. As a team, yeah. As a team. We haven't combined each, if you combine both of our experiences, we have like 370 years combined experience. What am I, 45, 46, something like that? Yeah, and for me, I always start the clock new. So for me, it's been 11 minutes. But the whole thing. I'm closing in. I start over every day.

I know I'm getting close to 50,000 hours, and I know, I think, I figured it out about a year ago.

And that's just the on-air stuff, not the show prep.

Oh, no, yeah, just on-air. That's actually, yeah, just being on-air. I think it's closing in on 50,000, and I believe I'm over 10,000 radio shows now. Yeah. And I can't, you know, you sit there and you think about that. you're like wow somebody told me you know you're gonna end up doing 10 000 radio shows and being on for 50 000 hours and people say how can you you know uh five hour shows i've i've done i did two shows for a long time yeah first like was it five years i did two different shows so those both added you know both ads added on to that yeah plus in other areas i did you know at times remember in music radio when i was on music radio i worked six days i was on the air six days a week

well for used to be on saturday too i used i was working two jobs for this company actually i was doing uh two morning shows on the weekend i was doing saturday and sunday morning show and then i was working during the week doing two shows i was doing this show and then i was doing voices and comedy with the legendary hal jay at wbap for 10 years and and so i you know it's i don't know where my hours are or where my number of shows are but yeah they're somewhere in that area i i think of that if you yeah if you go back to the beginning of my career and say that's what you're going to end up doing oh my gosh you know then i run into these truck drivers who have four million accident

free miles and i'm thinking oh my gosh yeah that's that's a that's a lot of driving but just very quickly on if you're because people are checking out the the the uh the picture my sister took of the sunset in the Toronto skyline.

Yeah, I'm going to go back and share that, too.

That just caused all, like I said, all this hoopla and the flat earthers coming out. This proves that the earth is flat. It's like, what? And I'm thinking to myself, think about this. These are people that are waiting every single day just to post something so they can say the earth is flat. Yeah. Think about that. Yeah. And then, like I said, the one guy, I'm seeing who's a Canadian, you know, the one guy taking a shot. Well, our skyline is so much better than anything that you have in the United States. Well, yeah, I mean, that's what, I'm going to lose some sleep tonight because you believe that your skyline is superior.

In Toronto, right? In Toronto. I'll just say to the people of Toronto, yeah, but your buildings are in the water, clearly. It looks like they're sinking.

Well, you're right, it proves, see, this isn't, it doesn't prove flat earth. What it proves is Toronto buildings are floating on Lake Ontario. They're floating.

of the picture i meant i would yeah but none of the stuff is on x this was all i i am hardly ever the only reason i'm even on instagram is because my great nephews on it yeah and you know and so i can when he was putting on basketball stuff i think i posted three or four times on instagram it just it doesn't it doesn't accomplish really doesn't accomplish much i just i don't like the

way that it's formatted at all i just don't like well it's it's weird to me too it's kind of it's i don't know it's kind of off-putting it's you know it doesn't i i think the news feed on x is kind of more my style i i can search for things i can look at things and right and there's so much more uh that's available there's so much random stuff that comes on on yeah you you can you can

you can organize the other two in the way that you that you want it that benefits what you want to get out of it which is me on both uh x and and uh and and facebook especially x is different news sources different audio cuts that are being uh you know promoted for me it's a great show prep one of the many show prep vehicles that we use every single day yeah it's uh you know i have a

i have a daughter who's who's on tiktok and doing very well i don't do tiktok either for the same reason it's just seems it seems so adhd you know what i mean yes it's like it's like scroll blah blah blah blah scroll blah blah blah blah scroll and and that just seems kind of uh i don't know uh it's it's not my speed it never was my speed but you know that's the thing i think and and it's by the way it's a beautiful picture i reposted that on on my x page as well at eric harley and it's you know but that's that's a great snapshot pun intended of of kind of where social media is and how they react you know it just kind of everything's got to be a you know extreme reaction i've got to have an opinion on this instead of hey great shot nice picture right

That's the vast majority of the response. I mean, that's almost 100% of the response I got on X on Facebook. And I didn't know that somebody else posting it, you know, on Instagram would just set off this firestorm of flat earthers. Right, exactly. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. We need to go back to Jade Helm 15.

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We are Red Eye Radio. I'm Gary McNamara along with Eric Harley. Coming up following the bottom of the hour, we will get to the situation uh in iran just one more thing about the this picture my sister took so i i told her about it i said hey you know i i messaged her and then she messaged me back and then i called her and i was telling her about everything i said some of the response from the flat earth people on it and and then then the the one guys i don't i don't i haven't checked it in hours so i don't know i could care less but it was just this was minutes after it was posted And the guy that, you know, wanting to insult the United States because of it, she's, Gary, why is this? I said, well, apparently you haven't been in talk radio for 36 years. Yeah. Otherwise, you would completely understand. Well, no.

Sometimes I have to explain things to my mom, you know, when we're talking about things. Well, people react, you know, a certain way. Well, why do they do that? Yeah. I don't know, Mom. I don't know. Gives them something to do, I guess.

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we are red eye radio he is air crawling i'm gary mcnamara download our red eye radio app today and you can listen when and where uh you uh choose i was listening to to this uh audio uh a couple of minutes ago and i went oh okay uh basically covers all the points i wanted to make about the situation in iran right now and it came from brit hume yesterday on fox news here we go you know i

wonder if that uh that fee that the president wants will ever be paid by anybody but the real question i think tonight is whether the military action we're undertaking now can have the effect of shutting down iran's ability to interfere in the strait of hormuz you know we have we've hurt their military, their regular military. We've taken out a lot of their installations. We've done all those things. So the president's statements about that, I think, are indubitably true. But it doesn't take much to interfere with shipping in the Strait of Hormuz. And the question now is whether our military can make the straits safe at an acceptable cost to us. It's risky. It may entail casualties. It might even entail ground forces. But that's

where we are in my judgment. You know, we had, uh, did we play the audio cut? Uh, I don't know if we played it yesterday or describe the audio cut yesterday of the, of the, the, the, the president who was, uh, you know, asked the question that, you know, just a month ago, uh, that, you know, you were, uh, well, I, in fact, I haven't, I found it. I just, as I was scrolling down, I found it. Yeah. Let me play, actually play the audio cut in his, in their own words. Here we go.

Last month, you said Iranian leaders were very rational people, nice people to deal with, strong people, smart people. Today, you said they were scum, sick people and being led by sick people. What changed? And do you think I got to know?

He said, I got to know them. And Marco Rubio burst into a big smile when he he said that. We know that, you know, from the very, very beginning and Marco Rubio really on the was the point person for telling us just how bad Iran was. The president did in the beginning. Yeah. But the fact is, when you had both the president and J.D. Vance, they lost credibility. They lost a tremendous amount of credibility, pretending whether you want to call it negotiation or not. You know, the president said on his own, we don't have to accuse the president of saying we got played like fools. The president said it. Yep. Yep. The president said they're playing us like fools, which means they're playing me like a fool. As he continued then to go down the path of the memorandum of agreement and everything else. Yeah. You know, yesterday we just we mentioned it briefly, but with the death of Lindsey Graham and a few other things, you know, that had happened, we really didn't hit it yesterday. And I had said before we went on vacation, you and I both agreed on this when the president was speaking. I'm paying attention now. Is he still going to speak before the nation on Thursday?

Yeah. You know, what's interesting is, is it's at 9 p.m. Eastern. He said, watch it on Truth Social. And I thought, well, is it only going to be on Truth Social? I mean, the word was out that he's going to speak before the nation Thursday evening.

And if it's on, if it's on Iran, this is one that the networks, you know, should carry. but it's gotten to the point with the president and it may not be the point now maybe

He is finally determined to do what we believe needs to be done here. But it got to the point where when the president spoke on Iran or J.D. Vance, whatever it was. And then we know that Marco Rubio stayed quiet for a significant period of time. It became blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Don't care what you say anymore. What are you doing? Right. That's just the reality of when you take something that is not believable. and the president was trying to sell something you can call it negotiation whatever you want to say you can say it's fifth dimensional chess it's the art of it's it's the art of the costanza deal as i call it you know the art of the deal whatever it made him look and he said it they're playing us like fools the president said it and then he continued with the memorandum of understanding yeah of negotiating it it was just like my god this is just you know uh it's getting to be just you know ridiculous here you know there's negotiation and then there's when you make the statement that our negotiation our negotiating with the iranians makes us look like fools that's not a strong point to go from the strong point and and the the strong point is the military action and i don't know i agree with uh brit hume i don't know you know you i saw that i saw one report that one of the heads of the uh iranian revolutionary guard was taken out that israel actually you know yeah took them out i saw that report i don't know you know we we talk about hitting bridges hitting infrastructure hitting military things i the the The question is, none of that has changed. The Iranian regime is the only thing that will change them, as we have stated before, as you take out. And Trump said it in the speech yesterday. Well, they were more reasonable to deal with than the first level and the second level that they wiped out. Right. Of the, you know, of the government of Iran. Well, it didn't work out because you're back to war again. you couldn't get a deal who's being reasonable yeah so it's still as he's saying okay we're going to go in and there's hell to pay now well well still they were more reasonable than the first don't say those things well you can't you can't say those things look here's the thing

here's the the conundrum it's i don't even if conundrum describes it fully but in in war there has to be a lot of propaganda set out for your enemy to steer your enemy in one direction. But I don't subscribe to that 100% and go, ah, that's what he's doing. Ah, that's what he's doing. Now, again, I've said this before. If at the end of this, you know, he's been playing this so that he can set them up to take the regime out and get the uranium, and it was all a strategy, I don't believe that, by the way, any longer. I don't believe that's a possibility any longer. But if that were the case, and it proves to be the case, I'll say well played. Again, I don't subscribe to that. Because of the nature of this particular president, Trump goes back and forth and back and forth and back and forth because he's trying to do two things at once he's trying to appease uh the u.s citizens he's trying to calm the markets that's part of appeasing you know people here domestically and he's also trying to get things done with iran the problem with war is you have to make the choice we have said this we said it you know and you just heard the audio that mimicked what we have said it's likely going to require boots on the ground if you're going to finish this thing the way it should be finished the regime gone and the uranium in our hands and those two have to happen in that order then it's going to require boots on the ground in a big way this isn't something we can do you know when we went into Iraq to to liberate Kuwait back in the early 90s well they weren't even prepared for war the soldiers that Saddam Hussein put out there weren't even prepared you know they were sitting in their underwear eating chapstick because they didn't have anything to to fight with or survive on and it's nothing like that with the IRGC It's nothing like that. And we have no idea how deep those roots go when it comes to loyalty to the regime, because here's the thing. I don't know how many I don't know. I'm sure plenty of people, very smart people that we follow, critical thinkers have assessed it this way.

but what the regime believes the hardliners is deeply and these are deeply held beliefs and the way that you govern a people based on their interpretation of their religion and what it is when it's that deep you don't know how far the loyalty goes that's the problem you don't know who you're dealing with even if you ran into a group of let's say uh top members of the irgc and they say yeah no we would love to overthrow the regime and we'll help you do it blah blah blah you can't trust anybody in that situation and it would be an ongoing uh issue it would be an ongoing problem that you would run into day after day after day that's the problem and having boots on the ground for how long you're not going to have an exit plan your exit plan is when the regime is gone and you can say it's gone when you can confidently say those roots have been pulled out of the ground and there is no more loyalty to the regime there's no lasting loyalty at all and there is change and then you can say you've got the uranium in your hands those i don't know how long a mission like that would actually take to get to that point we

had said this in the very beginning that the the gamble that the president's taking and again we didn't know what the strategy was going to be you know we didn't know what the military strategy at that point when he started taking out levels of government we said okay you know because as as he had said the goal is and and well when they first came out and said we our goal is not regime change You don't take out the first two levels of government, as he claims they've taken out, not to have regime change. The whole goal was to have the people of Iran feel safe to come out, get weapons to them somehow. I still wonder about the whole Kurd situation. That's never been fully explained by the administration. Did they steal the weapons? What in the world happened there precisely? The administration. Where are those weapons? That's a great that's a great question. And and and so you you look at this and we said, look, the the challenges here, it seems like the original war plan was dependent on the people revolting. And we said at the point, maybe that will happen. I don't know. I don't know what the CIA knows. We don't know what Mossad knows over, you know, over there, what the intelligence is. But it's always risky when you're depending on the end of the war on things that are out of your control, how a mass of people will respond in another country. That's always a gamble that you're taking. The one thing that I do like over the last – well, there's a couple of things. Number one, it seems like we're not doing this to get them back to the bargaining tail to make a deal. Yeah, no, I think the talks are over. Yeah. And so that's the entire. So the point may not be putting brutes on the ground. It may be OK. Just keep going after them day in and day out. Keep the squeeze on. Keep the blockade on. But that was the problem in the beginning. As we have said, don't make it so cash is available to them at all.

Carg Island. You've got to secure Carg Island. Take control of Carg Island. I don't know. Now, I'm saying this with zero knowledge of what that would take, what that would require, and what the risk of that would be.

I don't sense boots on the ground at all. I do not sense that coming.

No, but you could form a blockade and secure that island, and that chokes out the regime. Are they afraid that, well, by choking out the regime, we choke out the people of Iran? If we make the economy worse, we make it tough on the people of Iran. And that's not something we don't want some massive refugee crisis, you know, to a neighboring country, Azerbaijan or, you know, wherever. we don't want uh we don't want the regime taking this out on the people of iran as they have done repeatedly and killing people in the streets uh you know i don't know what the risk

is why they don't take Cargillin. The president actually mentioned it. This goes back three or four weeks. He said, we're going to probably take Cargillin today. And then it didn't happen. They were back at the table. Well, domestically, the problem the president has is, and Democrats start, don't be surprised if you start hearing this, well, we're back in. What's the end game here? If it's not a deal, what's the end game? Is there an end game? What's the exit strategy? Yeah. By the way, and the reason I bring that up is Democrats know that will affect independence. Independence will say, because it's always, all right, we're in, how do we get out? That's where the American people is in any conflict that we're in, a significant portion. What's the exit strategy? Expect Democrats to be saying that because it's like, all right, the president says the deal's off now. We're just going in to get them. What's the exit strategy? What does winning look like in this case? what is the goal of the United States now? What are you trying to accomplish exactly? And I'm thinking, is that why Thursday he's going to speak to the nation? It's the first thing I thought. It's the first thing I thought when they announced it. We are Red Eye Radio.

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He's Eric Carley and I'm Gary McNamara. So I'm really interested to see what the president's going to say on Thursday night. You know, one of the things we have said when you do this, you need to speak to the American people more. He did the eight-minute speech and then really there weren't a lot of primetime, you know, speeches on this. You're going to be attacked by Democrats now saying, what's the end game? I think that's really the, you know, what's the exit strategy? Remember that in Afghanistan and the public went for it. And Democrats believe that they can use that again. So don't be surprised if you hear that. What's the exit strategy? What's the plan? What's winning look like? What's the goal now of the administration? Well, and they had momentum going into Afghanistan, if you think about it, after 9-11. But then after a couple of years, you've got to answer some questions.

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america we are run i radio he is eric harley and i'm gary mcnamara jeez what this story from uh the wall street journal from when we were on vacation last week yeah ready for this okay this is actually a story in the wall street journal why white collar men are obsessed with the perfect lawn lush turf can be just as much of an office status symbol as a killer golf swing actually did an article on this for a lot of workers office workers okay mostly middle-aged male office workers a manicured lawn is as much of a status symbol as a luxury car in the driveway Excelling at work and yard work fits the modern professional's fixation of optimizing everything.

okay all right the office biohacker who won't shut up about his uh his golf score may also blab about nitrogen levels in his soil i don't go that far i take really good care of my

lawn i i don't know what the nitrogen levels are yeah but you you well i you know i just it's

something that you do you take care of your lawn i mean it's just something if you don't take care of your lawn the you can't just let it grow the city's gonna come after you but yeah and i was realizing this because i tried to make this male centric you know where my obsession with edging came from your mom my mother yeah you know this is before i had you had the gas powered edgers or

the electric you had the push thing you had to push it which was like a weird wheel which wasn't By the way, it wasn't ever good. It was horribly good. It didn't cut very well. It didn't, it wasn't, you know, it should be razor sharp. You know what I mean?

And a rubber wheel next to it, and you had to push back and forth. And my mother would come out. Well, the lawn cut, I mean, come on, an idiot can cut a lawn. Yeah. But edging was where my mother really became obsessive about it. She would go along and make sure that the corners were perfect. And if there was a piece of grass hanging over the sidewalk, oh, there was hell to pay, let me tell you.

Hell to pay. I stopped because, you know, I have St. Augustine, and it has what some people call runners, but stolons is what they're actually called. and and that's how the the grass spreads and so these little stolons can get really thick and it's like one will pop over the edge after i've just gone across it i'm like what do you think you're doing i'm having a fight with this little piece of grass i'm pulling it you know what i'm getting rid of you right now you're a problem mister i'm getting rid of you no it's for me mine came from uh oddly enough my dad who always kept a nice lawn but it was more of his military background you know where he wanted things to look sharp and i wear a black t-shirt and jeans every day so i can't look sharp like he did in his military uniform so i figure i'll make it up with my lawn and i the edging for me that's kind of where it comes from it's a it's you know it's a nice edge and i edge it every time i i see neighbors who don't our city actually put a an ordinance in we don't have a an hoa but texas monthly years ago did a story on our city the the town i live in and said it has more ordinances on the books than any hoa rules in the state at that time i don't know if that's the case now and and they're very they put out another one i remember because people were just letting their grass grow over the sidewalk they'd mow and then it would just grow over the sidewalk i'm like it your your lawn looks like a hippie don't do this you you can't grow your bangs out my uh my one of my neighbors put all new turf

i think he's i i believe he's got the the uh what is it is the the live oak which which is the one that i had that dropped the dropsy acid on your lawn and destroys your yeah both live oaks and

red oaks both do that the smaller leaves are the live oaks i the very pretty trees but yeah and

And thank goodness they both got disease, and I had to cut them down. Yeah. But my neighbor put in all-new turf. Yeah. And I don't know the grass he put in. It's not southern Bermuda that goes dormant because he had put it in. I don't think it is because when you put it in, it was absolutely green in February when he put it in. Yeah. It's all dead.

Yeah. All of it. The acidity is hard to keep on top of if he's got oaks.

Brand new, all dead. I mean, it was perfectly green, and, like, two weeks later, it was gone. I mean, the entire lawn. I'm like, oh, he's hearing from the Homeowners Association. But this is the sentence that got to me. Now, this was actually in the Wall Street Journal. And I'm like, who comes up with this stuff? If weekend warriors can't slay zombies on a dystopian battlefield, at least they can massacre dandelions in their backyard. like a killer golf swing or rock hard glutes a perfect lawn is a way for people who

make a living with their minds to prove that they are good at something physical too who are these people that want look you can go anywhere where are they getting this yeah i i just like a study

if it's a study then show me the data i want to see what they found if this actually is you know a mindset uh that is you know runs throughout and and and this is actually where are they getting

the proof to back this up the because the the the the writer says so uh it's like here it is it goes uh and unlike athletic pursuits it can seem elitist like skiing or windsurfing in exotic locales mowing the lawn can make accomplished professionals seem more relatable it's a way to bond with co-workers much like chatting about other shared hobbies or the latest world cup games being able to banter about blade height and the best time to aerate also gains you access to an office subculture alas i remain an outsider i have the ugliest lawn in my neighborhood this is the writer i mean the people there are people that are passionate about a million different things in a free society yeah i mean when i if i was the editor when i and i saw this a couple days ago and i go and i bookmarked it and said okay i gotta bring this up because it's just it's it's the media as you said you know is this a psychological problem they've just formed this right people as if it's a scientific fact right now when you you look at i mean you can sit there and you work all day you go okay law looks pretty good and then you're going to do something else yeah there's nothing wrong with it because if you don't have if you don't have the lawn and a you know good green healthy lawn it can be hell to repair well yeah you're i mean it just and it

makes the property look bad i for me you know you want it to look nice uh for your family but you also want to be a good neighbor i don't want to be the neighbor with it you know this author of the story the writer admits has the worst lawn i sent some jealousy here because here's the thing if if you're not if you're not putting in the work you can you can hire people to do it and it's it's relatively cheap to get someone to uh at least mow and trim right and then you can hire another lawn service to come out and do the fertilizer or whatever my dad actually hired a guy that does all the above and you know and my dad will tell him what he prefers my dad buys the fertilizer has it shipped to the house and then says this is what i do and if you'll do that for me and he pays him to do it it's just labor you You know, so he's not hiring like a, like, like I think it's True Green, which is one of the companies that you could hire to, you know, make your lawn look better if something's going on with it. But it really sounds like the writer of this article is, is upset that other people have a good lawn or is proud of having a crappy looking lawn. Callum Borchers is the, the guy's name.

Yeah.

Yeah. Okay.

He doesn't look like someone who cuts his own lawn. Like there's a look.

Yeah. That guy doesn't have a lawnmower.

Like there's a look to somebody who cuts their lawn. Okay, see, I've created my own stereotypes. Well, no, that's it. I bet that guy doesn't have a lawnmower.

But he doesn't even know what Home Depot is.

But it's the same to me. It's the same as making sure my floors are clean or the kitchen's clean. Right. Or people are obsessed with clean houses.

And with upgrading their kitchens and doing things to make things look nice. This is a status symbol. Have we gotten to that point where it's like,

I can't believe people are taking care of their stuff. And then every, because we get it twice a week, there's this obsession of taking garbage out of the house. Yeah, right. Why is it?

i don't know it's a it's a matter of a i don't know not smelling what you had for dinner last

night i think i think we need because i i see this in a lot of obituaries yeah they were an active gardener well what kind of obsession is that yeah who wants that in their obituary they they they tended to their garden every day well the obsession of these people how dare they What is this? What are they doing?

trying to prove they think they're better than everybody else by gardening my gosh now the

question i would have is it more elitist to be a gardener than to have a perfect lawn oh i think so

i think so and i say that because my wife is a gardener a vegetable gardener and she's doing uh this year this year we had uh issues with the tomatoes i think we had too much rain early on and and it didn't work out but uh but man we've got god you're privileged we've got i know right and we've got a bunch of uh of cantaloupes and melons coming in uh which is great they're actually holding up very well um but she did all the well i can't say she did all the work i do the infrastructure and then she does the actual gardening and planting of the seedlings in the winter our entire office our home office is filled with seedlings and grow light so what you're

telling me you have stereotypical gender roles for your garden yeah yeah i thought that was a given

yeah and then she comes in and makes me a sandwich and and so because i'm hungry i've been watching youtube all day but my god you know it's like hurry up with that what's taking you so long well i i do remember

about when i first moved into my house and the lawn you know you want to make sure it's a new house so you you know yeah and i remember the i i edged it and i remember looking at it going mom would really be proud because the corners came together and it was perfectly edged i mean

it was yeah it's got to be a got to be a 90 degree right a perfect kind of border and i took

a picture of it yeah to show my mom my mom was alive at that time yeah so i showed my mom yeah go mom look at this i did this yeah she's like yeah i go don't you remember you're the one you're the you're the one when i did this i actually posted it on facebook at the time yeah saying look at that look at the perfect 90 degree angle now and i put in there this comes from my mother who demanded perfection in edging no blade of grass that's right could cover any part of the

sidewalk ever that's right no if if i if something happens and i miss one i'll go back as i'm what because i do a walk around after i'm done and people will say well you're just trying to take pride in your work and you know you're just what guys do you know we'll wash our truck and then look at it for 20 minutes going look what I did um but it's and that's after a drive-through car wash but no I go back if I'm walking you know I'll just you know go back and make sure that everything's cleaned up for me I want it to look nice i wanted the house to look nice but it's part of being neighborly i don't want i i it's part of helping your neighborhood your street look better it's it's what you do well where

they say that it's as much of a status symbol as a luxury car in your driveway my car that sits in my driveway is my 23 year old vehicle so apparently they're wrong on that one in the

wall street i'm thinking about buying my dad's 2003 ford f-250 diesel and so i'm going to put

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Yeah, yeah. it's it's so wild that he's been around in the political scene for so long you don't think about his former life you don't think about you know his service in the military

and which he stayed in though because he came in in 94 as a representative right right so he was part of the 94 remember the yep yep 94 class yeah and i think he stayed in just till a few years ago and the reserves yeah he was into like 2015 or 2016 something like that i saw when he finally when he finally got out of the uh the reserves so um you know it's watching the left's reaction to him because i've said before you know megan mccain was talking about you know that they were the three amigos joe lieberman her father yeah lindsey graham they were viewed as the moderates yeah remember yep it doesn't matter and that's why we said yesterday if there's any evidence that the fixation of demonization is just on trump the death of lindsey graham proved

it's not going to end anytime soon no it's not it it doesn't matter who it is on the right whoever is making the news, even somebody who has passed, it's going to be, they're going to be the target. They're going to be the one. The liberal activists have shown no sign of letting up. In fact, it's getting worse. And, you know, here's the thing. It's, you know, when Barney Frank passed, i didn't have anything personal against the guy i just disagreed with all of his policies and everything he supported politically but i didn't take joy in his death i didn't you know that that to me is it's a very foreign idea uh it when you talk about somebody who is a political opposite you know i look at the death of rob reiner right he's a guy who did incredible work and by many people's standards and and and and and what they said about him conservatives who had him on as a guest said he was the greatest guy he was the nicest guy Bat soup crazy on the issues. Bat soup crazy on the issues. Totally disagreed on the issues. But I didn't have a problem with him personally. I don't celebrate death. No.

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i was uh watching a uh just in general on tv yesterday a bunch of different doctors you know talking about lindsey graham and how he uh died and you know again the talk about blood pressure yeah how it's something you just you've got to and i'm in that category yeah yeah me too when i was diagnosed right about now 10 years ago when the official diagnosis came in that i type 2 diabetes actually metabolic syndrome which is again type 2 diabetes uh high blood pressure and uh uh high cholesterol and i never had the high i had high normal cholesterol but i never had high cholesterol but uh you know now i'm on you know i'm on the lowest level of medication for that uh and now you know my it's you know super low um at the time you know you had to take the electrocardiogram and all that to make sure everything is right but when you're a type 2 diabetic you know twice a year you've got to go to the doctor yeah just to you know check up on everything and my blood sugar is lower than it was my average three-month blood sugar is lower than it was when when I when I first was diagnosed and even when I was diagnosed uh my daily blood sugar because they said it kicked off like in the months preceding uh I had I had what happened was I I had shingles and uh and I was up visiting my parents had shingles and my my brother-in-law said you got shingles and I went into you know the local you know the local emergency place there you know they've got them all over the place now and they went and took my blood pressure which was fine less than six months before when i'd gone to the doctor for my yearly was fine and when i went in there 225 over 125 oof yeah wow and they immediately sent me to you know the emergency room yeah in uh in in buffalo ecmc which is the, you know, they said, you need to go right now. I'm like, what? I couldn't believe it. I just was, you know. And then after really taking over a three-week period, three, you know, blood tests, they said, you've got type 2 diabetes. But my A1C, I think, was six, and it's, you know, that's for the, you know, the three-month period, which means in that time is when my genetics kicked off. It went from not having it to, boom, having it.

Yeah.

And, you know, so I'm on the blood pressure medication and I work out and, you know, watch my weight. I do everything that I possibly can do, you know, for the blood pressure because I know so many people. And when I look at history of people who have died, you know, famous people over the last 40, 50 years, The number that died from heart problems relating to high blood pressure, which can be controlled.

Yeah.

You can control it and live, you know, the average, you know, normal life. And, you know, now my blood pressure, like anybody else, it's, you know, it can get to, I've had it, you know, a complete rest, you know, 100 over 55. but normally it's probably it's around 120 over 68 you know which is fine it's fine blood pressure but I'm just amazed at the number of people some that I know that died and friends and relatives of theirs have said they just wouldn't take their blood pressure medicine they had high blood pressure they just wouldn't take care of it and I don't know about Lindsey Graham I don't know You know, whether I'm amazed the number of people that don't go to doctors that are in their 60s. Yeah. Well, I'm just I'm amazed.

And in the case of a Lindsey Graham, so here's a guy who just got off a plane from Ukraine. He's always on a plane, you know, traveling somewhere. It seems like lately, especially with between Iran and Ukraine. everything that's going on and then he's having a conversation with the president on the phone you know shortly before he passed and I would have to believe that if there is a blood pressure issue you know that would be something that would I know for me you know I could see that raising your blood pressure to a great extent in fact one time I was in the hospital for my lung and i was on the phone doing work related things answering emails and the nurse comes in and she looks at the you know at the monitor and she goes put that down she goes you're you're not here to work you know and yeah and she said and my sister was there visiting she goes you need to tell him that that's you can't do this because when he's and and they noticed it a couple of times. It was a pattern. I had actually, they'd, they'd come in one morning and same thing had happened later that day, again, work related things. And because there was a big event that I missed because my lung collapsed. Normally I would just, you know, walk it off and go do the event, but this time I couldn't do it. So they, you know, they, they could see it visibly because the monitor is right there and they could see it. And so you don't think about that. I remember being in a doctor's office. My blood pressure problem didn't start until I had a, what's called a branch vein occlusion. I have a blind spot in my right eye. I'm deaf in my left ear and partially blind in my right eye. So that's why I'm so kind to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Cause I'm always bumping into walls and going huh and then so i can't hear what you can say anything you want about me i'm not going to hear most of it but i don't care but you know if you flip me off with the right finger i won't even see it but you know they but i you know they the treatment for that uh for the the branch vein occlusion in my in my right eye is a needle being stuck in your eye every four weeks with oh uh actually a cancer drug called avastin and when that started i developed white coat i never had white coat with dentists with doctors with i never had that

problem ever and then it started to become an issue and i was in the waiting room and i remember feeling kind of sleepy it was weird i was like oh i feel like i could kind of go to sleep but actually my blood pressure was on the rise and when they went in and took my blood pressure before getting a needle stuck into my eye they uh they said no your blood pressure is high and i said, I guess I have white coat now. And then it started to calm down after a few minutes. And that would be the pattern, right? White coat only. And then it was like, okay, we need, you know, we need actually a treatment. And, uh, and, and so I started on the medications years ago and, and it can be, it's, it's, you know, there are a lot of people doing a job like what a Lindsey Graham did um serve I can't imagine serving in the Senate or

in the House it would just drive me bat soup crazy well he was driven obviously he was he was he was driven by it oh yeah very passionate you know and it's no doubt when you talk about because i have i've always had white coat syndrome yeah and you know it's interesting because uh when i go in you know before i have my six month a week before i go in and you know they do all the blood work i have white coat syndrome going into the lab yeah to get my blood taken right so my you know uh they now my not only when i go into the doctor they don't take my blood pressure they just take the blood out but my blood sugar is always higher because that drop of adrenaline is what happens when you have white coat syndrome that just a little drop of adrenaline gets in your blood system it increases your blood pressure and your blood sugar so for me with white coat syndrome you know i keep a history you know everything's got an app now my blood pressure blood sugar everything else i go in and all right doctor here it is right here so he can follow it because he'll sit there and go, oh, every time I walk in, he goes, your blood sugar's high when you get your, oh, that's right, I forgot. You got white coat syndrome, and he goes, and it raises your blood pressure and, you know, that, but, yeah, blood pressure is.

such a deadly thing and i don't know i'm not making a judgment on him i'm just saying i think it was dr oz was saying you know one of the things that that that people don't really focus on enough and he wasn't making an accusation that was lindsey graham but he said watch your blood pressure well and i'm amazed the number of people that don't i have somebody who uh that i know a good friend of mine who's uh uh got high blood pressure and just says well i take the pills but i eat whatever i want you can't do that one of the biggest things i know when i travel so much is you just can't find low carb food if you're eating out it's almost impossible now you can find it online you know that's why i hardly ever go out to eat at a restaurant almost everything i do is made at home because it i want it to be as low carb as possible and working out but i mean it's and and say my focus is i want a quality of life i want to be able to do this i don't want to stop doing this but i know because of the time that we're on and and just what it takes to do this i want to make sure that i'm as healthy as possible because i love doing it so really that's my incentive uh and maybe some people don't have that incentive and so they don't watch it as much or just figure they can get away with you know cheating a little bit or well the pills are all i need and that's going to take care of that's what i was about to say that many i think far too

many of us say well yeah I've got the medication uh you know that that will help keep it in check and if I need to I'll increase the dosage if the doctor agrees or whatever but the fact of the matter is is that especially the thing with blood pressure is that it goes up and down throughout the day there are things that can make it spike you know and and so one of the keys to that really use exercise the simplest thing you can do is walk if you're able to do it and you know and if if not find something that you can do just to stay active and and keep that blood pressure and it also you know any anxiety or whatever you got going on in life it kind of helps to

you know tame that a little bit too well that's the good thing with getting older you just you You've worried about things your entire life that you look back on and go, why did I worry about that? You don't worry about it anymore. It's like whatever. I remember when I first got type 2 when I was first diagnosed. And my doctor had said after about a couple of years, he said, we want the good news or the bad news? I said, well, give me the bad news first. And he said, type 2 diabetes is going to kill you. I go, what the hell is the good news? He said, you'll be 120 when it does if you keep doing what you're doing. yeah i'm like oh okay good right and and uh because you know and he said and when i first got it they said you know this will kill you if you don't take care of it right and i said well i'm not worried about the death because there's nothing i can do about that down the road i'm worried about the quality of life in between and i've known people that have had toes cut off and everything else what my doctors told me is if you try and continue this you'll never have your toes cut off i still i'm not i've never been i think my last a1c was 5.7 i think something like that so i'm under a six over a seven is when you're doing damage to your organs yeah and so i'm still and that's my whole goal just keep staying beneath that i'm still yeah my medication hasn't changed still on the lowest level but it's something that you pay attention to if you want that quality of life and it was heartbreaking to see that that he said you know they said you need to go to a doctor And he just said, you know, I just, you know, I think the quote was, I can't die. I can't die yet because I've got stuff to do when he was feeling sick earlier in the night. Yeah. That story came out yesterday. Yeah. And it was like, oh, I just so sad when I do that. It is. Yeah. We are Red Eye Radio.

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we're running radio he's our calling i'm gary mcnamara yeah and by the way no problem uh with uh his sister taking over for the next uh till november right yeah yeah she's not yeah she's not going to be running but if there's anybody close to if anybody there you know the they the you know south carolina elected him if there's anybody who knows what his wishes would be it would be her oh no doubt and you know the funniest thing is what i heard she doesn't have the experience it's necessary blah blah blah shut up yeah this whole thing that being a congressman or senator takes such incredible experience yeah yeah no she's

very close to him

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