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america we are run i radio he is eric harley and i'm gary mcnamara again the show interfering with my reading what are you reading well i was actually reading a trade magazine oh really wonder if this applies to me yeah there's a it uh and you would mention it uh and i was actually reading the article you mentioned uh barrett media yeah uh and a great trade magazine for a radio and i just happened to see this column talk radio burnout when it's time to walk away oh for for the individual yeah the talk for the talk not for the listener it's never time to walk away for the listener to be clear how do you reconnect with that first moment of love if that love has changed is a time to walk away on your own terms and divorce the industry you know you still love radio yeah you still have that spark i i don't know of a time in my career

that i've been more enthusiastic i know and gotten greater satisfaction from what I do you and I talked about this off the air we often talk about it off the air that we really do love doing this I'm very grateful for the fact that people choose to seek us out they don't have to there's so many things you can listen to I know whatever podcast you know anything and everything and they also choose us and that to me is so humbling I know um of course I know why it's because we're excellent but it's but it's to me that's that's since I was 18 when I could say something and somebody would respond to it like a caller would call in you don't respond it was music radio you know and they'd call and you know or i'd go we'd go to do a live remote somewhere uh this is when i was doing a uh you know a local show and people would show up you'd promote it you'd say hey we're gonna be here come see us and people would come out um In fact, Sam from San Antonio went to Bristol where we had Shell Rotel Super Rigs this year and wanted to shake my hand. He lives in San Antonio and he came up and just wanted to say hi, listens every morning. And I love that because, you know, San Antonio, Del Rio, my old stomping grounds. I'm not sure how much stomping I did, but it was, it was so great to see that. And you and I have seen that before where, you know, we've been at events and people come up and, and that's, you know, just amazing. But I can't imagine, I, in fact, vacation, and it's, it's, I'm, I'm very serious about this. Vacation is difficult. i don't mind having more time with my lovely bright i i really don't she might have a different opinion about that but i love spending time with her and i you know that's great she did not have the week off in fact she worked through uh independence day she worked through that weekend and everything she's working a lot of overtime here lately but having this having this here every night and coming back to this the the recent death of my brother you know it it wasn't that this was that work was a distraction

or getting back to normal it was that i felt like i was coming back into my other family my work family here you guys here in the in the studio that i work with but the listener family and it was and still is therapeutic in that we can sit and talk about and i you know not every talk show host does this but i think you and i have really been clear about we'll talk we we're not going to be on the tribal thing you know we're going to issue our concerns even if we vote for the person we're going to express our convictions and there is something therapeutic about being able to do it i i don't get that same therapy you know that same satisfaction from social media i never have because you know it just kind of falls into the void there's too many distractions

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You know, I was thinking about this, actually, when I was reading an article about, you know, about Lindsey Graham, how much he loved the job, how he was addicted to the job, how he wanted to. And, you know, you saw, you know, of course, a political criticism is there. Yeah, but he didn't support Trump. Then he did support Trump. Yeah, but that's the politics of it. He knew he could have influenced by standing by Trump on a variety of different issues. Even at times you said, eh, Lindsey, do you really believe this? Yeah. Are you kissing a little butt there? But you can understand that the whole goal was to get what he wanted and what he wanted, what he really focused on. And as we said yesterday, was the fact that Lindsey Graham was one of those people. Forget about anything domestic policy that you disagreed with. on the level of protecting america from our enemies and recognizing our enemies whether it's putin ji uh islamic jihad you know sharia supremacy he was absolutely adamant and however he could do that to promote that which i believe is absolutely necessary because there's not a lot of people you know it's there's you've got the whole democratic party well there's really no difference between uh sharia supremacy and uh the mega churches in texas you know trying to make the moral equivalents i just used that i just came up with that in my head right there it could be catholicism it could be whatever that there's really of course there's a difference yes it's like saying there's no difference between sharia supremacy and our democracy here right that that we have and i know we're a constitutional republic under the umbrella the general umbrella of a democracy just for the nitpickers out there um and and but it was his his passion and love and his joy to go anywhere and i went wow that's how i that's how i feel about this job i thought about that yesterday so when i saw that article i went wow that's really interesting i have way more passion and fun now than i've ever had in my radio career because for so much of the career you're trying to figure what to do you and how to present it and how to present it yeah and when you're in that time of trying to find yourself management who is probably more clueless than you are except our management well they're they're very talking way way way way way back when yeah but they were younger yeah the management they were early in your career early in my career the management they they were all in their 20s and 30s they didn't know yeah and so you're dealing with a bunch of people who don't know and so you just go do what you do every day but that that pressure is there every day trying to please yourself please the audience and please the

management and it is a tough thing to get through that stress that's all gone now right it's gone There is, it's gone.

If you love doing it, then you're going to be thoughtful about that presentation along the way.

Well, everybody has grown. Management is older. The talent, you know, everybody has got to a certain point and went, okay, now that I've been in this business as long as I have, I realize that we still know nothing. Go do what you do and have fun and be yourself.

Yeah. Well, you know, and I kind of feel like, again, you know, I made the joke earlier about I restart the clock on my career every night as the show comes on. But I kind of have that attitude about, and you and I have talked about this before, we feel like we need to show up and earn it all over again for the audience because, you know, we may get compliments. And it's, oh, man, the show you did today or yesterday or whatever, today's podcast was, man, it was awesome, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That can't go to my head. It never does. I'm not able to let that feed any ego because I realize, yeah, but I could screw it up royally tonight.

Well, we're in the immediacy news entertainment sector, which is you know your current your current today it's not like we put out uh elton john's goodbye yellow brick road and can sit back a half a century everybody thinks that's a great listen to this album what what a great album that is looking back but then again you know i the other thing that drives that i look at when you look at musicians or when you look at sports people who keep and i know a couple that keep reflecting their whole life is still reflecting back to 30 years ago 40 years ago 50 years ago their whole mindset is what they had done I'm so glad I'm not there they may be comfortable in it I couldn't be comfortable and I'm not it's not a criticism it's that I couldn't do that yeah I just can't look I can't look back I just I can't and a lot of in those professions you know because your career normally for most musicians probably is two or three great albums and then everything is playing the hits and nobody we know it's well known in the music industry we don't care about your new song yeah now the great bands are the

ones where people do care about their new music well i remember the the hairband warrant talked about walking into their record label one time and their their album a huge wall-sized poster of their album cover was on you know the the wall as you walk into the reception area and then they walked in the next time it wasn't just a few months later and it was allison chains and it was like oh things have changed a little bit and and i understand that this is a business

where you know you'll because it's current event it's current for today and once we're gone you know in a few years everybody forgets and moves on to the next thing that's just the reality of the business but it's also the beauty of the business is that you get to do it you get to live in it you get to live in it every single day and everything that you do is is is fresh

and that's that's where the appreciation comes from i think yeah it's you know because it's it's like yeah i get to talk about because if if i'm you know at some point i'll have to retire I'm thinking probably 95. God willing, I live that long. I'm thinking 95, I'll probably hang it up. But if, you know, if I look at this situation as long as I'm of this mindset, and it keeps growing every day, I'm a little more excited, encouraged, and I guess in love with, married to, you know, the job, as they put it, you know, in the article. you know it's if it maybe it's time to break up with your your career if you don't enjoy it which isn't by the way bad advice if you don't enjoy it but it's so it's a foreign thought to me and and i think it comes from having the creative ability that we have here on this show that you don't always have you're you know we don't have the boss isn't down the hallway right now you know and they do let us do our thing and we also understand there's a responsibility in staying on top of things um you know and then you know breaking news and everything that's that comes along with what you're doing so but all of that to me is enjoyable when we get into serious breaking news while i don't like the nature of the story you know quite possibly there's an adrenaline rush well there there is i i i take great pride in wanting to get it right for the audience like we've said we don't care about being first we just want to get

what we know and report what we know where we tell the audience where we're getting it from and then being able to report that breaking news i take great pride in doing it and taking a

thoughtful approach to it you know the the the best thing is when you look at you know the uh being in the media in any particular way you know whether you know musician or uh actor for example you everybody's looking back at the things you've done in the past i just love being in something where you know the career is now what 45 years 46 years whatever it is now and you're still doing new stuff every day yeah to me that i'm so appreciative of that because it doesn't exist i couldn't imagine being in music and people going could you play that hit

gary that you had in 1977 yeah the first song i ever played on the air at this small country station where I started was Amarillo by Morning, George Strait. And, you know, I think that song is, it seems ancient. It's a great song. It's actually his version of it. There was another version of it before that. But I think about that. I think about all the young Reba McIntyre, the judds when they were first starting out and all this and it's just amazing to think about you know and and i if i weren't if i were an art if i were doing music presentation as a dj you know on the air it i wouldn't feel like i was serving an audience no the music serves the

audience yeah um i couldn't do music but yeah it's i just don't have that in me it would be it would be so boring and we we both did it i don't remember the first song i played on commercial radio but i do know the first song i ever played in front of a microphone for college radio yeah death may be your santa claus moth the hoople all right not all the young dudes death may be your

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We are Red Eye Radio, and he's Eric Carley, and I'm Gary McNamara. You know, the funniest thing, the last two days that I've seen, and a lot of the, you know, stuff that's been happening, happening made it so we didn't cover this one yet but the cnbc survey that that has been mocked tremendously yeah because it ranked all red states as the worst places to live in the country of course of course and tennessee was first and texas was second what they did was they took all liberal issues right they looked at all liberal issues what liberals want right and the red states were ranked low on all these liberal issues therefore they're the worst states to live in and it's like wow all these people are moving to these states though in the top 10 from blue states apparently these people don't know what's important to them well what's interesting is that i believe it's

actually part of an effort of you know warning any of the people that have not left the blue states yet of oh you don't want to live in these states there there is that and in here in texas a couple of uh newspapers uh the san antonio express i think

was one of them and uh the austin statesman the houston chronicle maybe the dallas morning news a few of them have done stories like well some people are moving out of texas well of course they are i know as if you know as if nobody's moving out of texas and everybody's moving

to texas i know somebody who's a listener to our show yeah uh great person yeah their family's in california they move back yeah so they're closer to their right you know family and friends are all there and so that happens all the time right and and so you have people moving from every state

all the time it's where though the net result is right and why and why a lot of that migration is happening right the reason why it's happening

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And he is Eric Carley, and I'm Gary McNamara. The one thing, as we were talking about the CNBC study, the worst places to live, all red states. And Governor Newsom said, see, I told you, it's all the red states. They're bad, and I like this one. This is Representative Lance Gooden of Texas. if you hate not paying income taxes law and order parental rights smaller government school choice the second amendment and criminal illegal immigrants being arrested here's another garbage list from the mainstream media and i love this one though one texas resident conservative activist robbie starbuck a texas resident said actually i noticed something the list is bs that it has nothing to do with quality of life for sane people because one of the reasons that tennessee was number one as the worst place to live was because of the bathroom law yeah because because tennessee has has the law that says men must use male restrooms and females that's a horrible place to live oh my god what a horrible place to live humanity what a horrible place to live oh my gosh wow man and that was the the the number one reason the number two reason was country music

well some of today's country music

yeah there is that debate yeah is it country music well you know when they put start putting

the snaps in it the snap beats and and country music i had a couple of i won't say who they were they're a duo and they're they've done pretty well but as songwriters they've done really well and we were having this long conversation about it going i don't know how that started where it just this in the little snap beats you know in the background it's like that's not i don't know no no no i i you know i don't need steel guitar and fiddle in every song i i would prefer it but i understand you're not going to do that in every song especially today you know i mean that's you know i i love older country music it's what i grew up on so

but yeah i was i was kidding yeah i know it actually i don't think it actually did make the the uh the the list what about the uh death penalty did that oh it has to oh yeah it's got to be part of it yes yeah well there is no quality of life if you're dead right they're against the death penalty but pro-abortion well that's another thing if you have no access to abortion if you have reproductive rights you're a better place to to to to live except you'll be

dead right you jaywalk it's not true we don't have the death penalty for jaywalking now if you're littering while you're jaywalking it's definitely the death penalty well as we know

I mean, the stereotype of Texas is true because what we do every day, we jump into our pickup trucks with our.

our gun rack, and our empty beer cans in the back, and we all head out in order to cheer the latest execution in Huntsville.

Dude, are you stalking me? That's exactly what I do.

A lot of beer cans in the back. Meanwhile, in other topics, the daylight saving time bill clears a House Rules Committee vote. There we go again. Six to four. All right. And would let states lock in year-round daylight saving time. I guess it would still be states' choice or what? It would allow states to enact daylight saving time year-round. Can't you do that now?

There is no. I forget what the qualification for is.

Hawaii and Arizona, most of Arizona, doesn't subscribe to it.

Right.

so and honestly this is a debate where i don't care uh it doesn't matter to it really it doesn't affect me uh really um well so i the the only thing i keep thinking of is if it doesn't get light in some states until 8 39 o'clock in the morning you're going to have people complaining about kids going to school that would be the complaint i would see yeah look uh i live in a

school zone i'm four houses down basically from the elementary school where uh three of my four children attended one of my grandchildren is attending that school right now and there's a six-lane road you have to cross and it's you know it's 20 miles an hour it's school zone so they're driving slowly but it's a lot of cars in that zone and as a parent that'd be a concern you know I mean it there's no doubt now that I'm not a parent of small children I don't care but no no it's there's going to be concerns one way or the other which is why I don't think they'll ever get it done I just don't think they'll ever get it done you know I read one article

Do they have the votes? Because this story makes it sound like they have the votes.

The committee vote was six to four. No, there was a wider committee that was like something like 48 to one. I got to go back and find the article. I don't even know if I bookmarked it because I'm not confident it's going to happen.

There it is. the legislation momentum comes from a house energy and commerce committee overwhelmingly passed the measure 48 to one in may yeah okay yeah so

then where does it go in the senate and and you know what cases are going to be made you're going to have you know lobbyists up there oh we can't do this we can't do that we got to have this we're gonna have that and you know all all making i'm sure solid points for their interest but

i don't think it's going to change well for me how will i know when to change my nine volt battery in my smoke detectors when it starts beeping which of course when does it happen does it ever happen no we're at noon no or always when i'm sleep well i like the i like the new ones that have the basically the batteries enclosed it's like 10 years it's like okay i like that yeah yeah you don't have to but i think those are the comp the one i have is a combination i've got two i've got you know one uh carbon monoxide detector yeah in my bedroom right and then one uh then i have one a double one smoke detector and carbon

monoxide detector in my kitchen yeah i have uh i have them all in all the bedrooms hallway oh

then i have smoke detectors like four more around the house yeah and then in the kitchen and they're

all combo now uh carbon monoxide and and uh and smoke detectors um they you know they i just don't think they're going to get it done if they get it done it's going to be weird you know it's going to be odd i when they moved it though when they moved it back to earlier in the year and then later in the fall you know that was like what are you doing you know i mean i know what you're attempting to do but you get so much sunlight and and again it's about as you mentioned yeah but when we operate in the sunlight versus the dark and everything else you know is a big I don't know. know what stats show on uh car accidents like in the morning we talk about kids going to school but are there more car accidents in the morning you know if the sun's not up yet um i mean really traffic in our area starts at 5 a.m the heavy traffic i mean it starts zooming at 5 a.m uh but you know so i i don't know you know that i don't have an opinion on it i would rather not change the clocks based on the health aspect of it because it's measurable i mean we're less productive after the clock change as a nation we're just less productive some people you know it doesn't affect as bad as others but i don't

you know at at my age it's like well well you know the the incredible thing is the the the difference depending on where you live for example when i was in buffalo buffalo a couple of weeks ago in the hotel and i was facing the east right and the windows of my hotel room were open yeah or they not the windows but the the blinds were up the shades were up and i had said it early you know to be over at my dad's house next thing i know the sun's in my eyes it's coming up right there and it's shining right on my face i wake up in a panic it's 5 40 in the morning yeah right like right now right there the the the sun will rise in in dallas today at 6 30 right it rises in buffalo new york at 5 50 a.m right we're closer to the equator exactly yeah and so you you know when you when you look at that i mean it's like uh here i'm still comfortable with it you know it's like the sun coming up at 6 30 well that's that's that's good enough for me but i i can't imagine because there will be places where the sun it's still going to be dark between 8 30 and 9 o'clock cloudy days you know it's going to be really dark and

well they talked about alaska is going to some parts of northern alaska it's like you might not see any daylight was that uh movie 28 days after or whatever it's like you might not see any daylight for talking about the vampire months yeah the zombie vampire thing whatever it was yeah and so So it's, you know, there was a few articles over the weekend. One said there was conversation about removing the eastern time zone. And I said, what? What? What?

Remember they moved the clocks when you changed them? They changed when we're going to do it in order to save electricity and it never worked?

Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier when, you know, now we change them earlier in the spring and later in the fall, you know, and it's not doing what it's, you know, what that was intended to do. And I just don't, again, I don't see it. I don't see it happening. They talk about it. This year seems to have more momentum. But the moment you do it, you know, once it's implemented, if it happens, then it's just going to be, you know, people on Capitol Hill, change it back, change it back, change it back, change it back, you know, for a variety of reasons.

It gives states the ability. It's not going to be a nationwide law. It gives states the ability to do it. My question is, why can people do it already? I don't understand the enforcement authority of this.

Yeah, I forget why those few states have that exemption. I read it over the weekend, and I can't remember why that exemption is in place. In Arizona, the Navajo Nation does not do what the rest of the state does. And so for part of the year, they're on different time by an hour or so. In Texas, I think the only mountain time zone is El Paso, right? Is that right? I think that's right.

Arizona, along with Hawaii, is exempt from daylight saving time because the state legislature officially opted out in 1968.

Okay. Yeah.

So they already had the ability to do it.

Right. that's my point does this well or is that can they no longer opt out is that exemption gone and was that grandfathered in

Okay, that's a good point. You know, I don't know. So, and again, the Navajo Nation does not do what the rest of the state does in Arizona. So, for part of the year, they're on a different time zone.

And in Arizona, you want it to stay dark as long as possible.

Well, you want less sunlight for sure. For sure. I think they'd take less sunlight. Well, you know, a lot of people live there for the warmth, but this time of year, they'd probably take a little less sunlight.

Yeah, every time I think it's hot here and we'll get somebody from Arizona, hold my beer, guys.

Yeah, that and Las Vegas.

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we're on our radio he's eric carley and i'm gary mcnamara interesting uh you know the the main senate race versus now the south carolina senate race yeah it'd be interesting i mean that that comparison is going to be made right how they're going to have an open primary and uh how they're going to elect it in maine there's going to be a big comparison between the two states on that yeah i mean the republicans are going to you're not going to have democrats promoting it but you're going to have republicans promoting look you know we're about democracy they're not right

yep uh it will be interesting to see uh the lieutenant governor's been talked about about jumping in uh nancy mace you know the betty nods on cnn yeah four percent for her for nancy mace yeah the betty nods that's where the money yeah yeah it's uh not a not a strong bet

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