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all across america we are red eye radio he is eric carley and i'm gary mcnamara you know you plan a show and 30 seconds before the show starts it all gets blown to heck yeah you know and that's that's because alan yeah right before i go on the air hands me a bunch of stuff and alan handed me uh this story yeah i didn't even see it he does this on purpose by the way yes his nature liberal journal the atlantic claims the heir of the democrat manly

man is back the back back here this is as if it it existed at one point now this is from the piece

now now i have to go and find the entire piece i mean like i said i just just saw this 30 seconds ago yeah just read it very quickly was laughing so hard reading it to you yeah i said okay yeah well we'll get don't worry we'll get to everything but here it is all right brian poindexter had just finished wolfing down a reuben sandwich in a deli outside cleveland wolfing huh yes all right when he delivered the message that coming from a democrat house candidate in the year 2026 sounded almost provocative. There's nothing wrong with being masculine, Poindexter told me. It's okay, he said, to be a manly man. Yeah, I mean, if you are one, yeah. Well, you have to define it. Now, here's the point. If they can't define what a woman is, they can't define what a man is, how do you define the manly in the man if you can't define what a man is?

Well, not all, because in terms of persons who are manly, they're not all men.

Yes, exactly. Right? That's a great point. Are all manly men actually men?

Now, here's where they get themselves in trouble. That's transphobic. No, I'm taking from their own playbook.

Of course.

Because if a biological female is manly, is it wrong to call her manually manly? You know, it's a very handsome woman over there. You know, it's how do you approach that? I want to see them at their own convention when they're talking, right? When they're sitting around talking, well, we need manly men. well hold on a second masculinity is toxic exactly that's what i was told right in fact i think there's a lawsuit against it about against masculinity because it's it's you know because of the toxicity it's creating problems and there by the way there was a big rig at super rigs this year and the name of the big rig was masculine toxicity or toxic masculinity actually yeah and and so it's it it's actually the the reverse sounds cool too but here's the the problem their own rule book this is what we've been saying forever their rule book changes by the second you can't be manly he's a stay-at-home dad you know the kind that doesn't shave ever

you know and he wears his pajama bottoms all day you know what i mean and he's taking care of the

kids and by kids i mean two chihuahuas they don't they don't have children they have they have dog

children but my point is uh whoever goes through life thinking of those things i don't know i don't think i don't think i've ever walked through life going you know i'm not looking at my life

and I've got to get rid of the cat.

Yeah, well, and the boxed wine, yeah.

And the boxed, and I need to get rid of the cat and the boxed wine.

And the multiple colors around your pool. Kind of looks like a rainbow. I'm just, I'm not, not that there's anything wrong with that.

But, I mean, I've never spent one second analyzing my life.

Oh, I have.

then just join the democratic party why don't you i've never spent i don't think one second analyzing myself i mean i've analyzed myself you know when i especially when i was you know younger and much more foolish did i do the right thing but i don't think i've ever went through life one day going you know the last year i haven't been manly enough uh i'm trying to think now you now you might have because you know you were into that whole you know very masculine heavy metal thing for a while i don't know that you

know a lot of that turned less than masculine you know they tried to call it metal sorry the guys in poison were prettier than the the spice girls so it was i was like wait a minute what i mean they were pretty in pink no they they they dolled it up they heavy makeup uh no you know for for me it was am i gonna be strong enough to lift the mail out of the mailbox and bring it bring it that's the question that's my level of fitness goal you know if if and I remember one one time years ago I joined a gym and it was right after I moved to the big city I but I joined a gym and they said well okay we're going to take you around you know some guy named Thor he's going to take me out around he's going to show me where everything is he's going to show me how to use everything well the first thing they do is they start you on legs right he's going he's going to give you one free you know coaching and they start you on legs and of course that's the worst place to start anyone because then you know people like me can't walk for two years um and you know i he said well what's your what's your what's your fitness goal um basically not to die i just want to you know i don't want to i'd like to not be 700 pounds and i'd like to not die i'm not looking to be you know whatever i all these mirrors you got around here they they mean nothing to me i'm not looking in the mirror i don't for me i wear black t-shirts and jeans all the time only because i get dressed in the dark i like colorful clothes yeah i like that now here's

Here's more from the article, all right?

Yeah.

Poindexter's, let me start again in case anybody missed it. Brian Poindexter had just finished wolfing down a Reuben sandwich in a deli. They need to make the article masculine. A Reuben, too. It's got to be a Reuben. In a deli outside Cleveland when he delivered the message coming from a Democrat House candidate in the year 2026, sounding almost provocative. There's nothing wrong with being masculine, Poindexter told me. Change your last name. It's okay, he said, to be a manly name. You need to change that last name.

At least my last name's Harley. At least it sounds like a motorcycle. Poindexter?

Poindexter. And you're trying to be manly? Poindexter's own manliness credentials are fully in order. So apparently this writer and the Atlantic has his definition of a manly man, a stereotypical manly man. Here we go. The 46-year-old started working in a machine shop as a teenager. Oh. Hey, I did. Spent years hauling furniture across the country before finding stability as a union iron worker. Hey, I was a steel worker. All right. He drives a Ram Bighorn pickup truck and built with his buddy-turned-campaign-manager a shed in his backyard. All right, he's on point. Now Poindexter is running for Congress, trying to flip a Republican-held seat in Ohio with the pitch aimed at a constituency that has abandoned the Democratic Party over the past two decades, men. Critiques such as poindexters have gelled into a consensus over the past two years Repeated ad nauseum by starchy senators and governors With an eye towards running for president in 2028 Closing the gender gap now seems to be the official electoral strategy of Democrats A couple of months ago I got a call

from a party operative who pitched a story on the Democrats' effort to win back the manosphere. The operative ran through a list of half-dozen candidates in key House districts who are engaged in culture, who are engaged, I'm not kidding you, who are engaged culturally in male spaces. A bit of gobbledygook that I took to mean manly men or perhaps guys' guys, But that also reflects a sort of distance that points to the depths of the party's problem. After all, an iron worker probably wouldn't describe himself as engaging culturally in male spaces. No, that's the whole thing.

Because it makes me wonder, you know, are you, you know, all right, here's the thing. You say you're an oyster farmer, but you're an oyster farmer for your mother. I mean, you're not really an oyster farmer. You're just going out to get some oysters for your mom.

Well, I mean, after the Wall Street Journal article the other day, you know, the whole thing that, you know, that white collar workers, men.

Yeah.

You know, like, you know, it's a masculine thing to make sure the lawn is cut.

Yeah. Right. You know, the lawn is a new status. Right. And a symbol and level that you've got to achieve.

And I mentioned my adult obsession with edging that came from my mother.

Right. Yeah.

So does that make me to go back to a word that I used a couple of weeks ago? Does that make me a manly man or a femme?

I just think it makes you a mama's boy, you know, and that there's nothing wrong with that. Fem. Yeah, it's fem. Yeah. It's a fem. Right.

You know, it's so funny. Let me ask you.

Let me ask you. Are you properly chewing your food? Because if you're not.

30 times with each bite. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. you're definitely what's so funny about this is these things never run through my mind they never run through our minds we just go we live life the way we live life well here's the thing it it it

never like i mentioned my last name right harley right you know and you know it's harley yeah and so you know people oh man cool last name oh yeah it's fine but i always get the oh do you own a harley do you ride harley it's it's every every time and they mean well these are well-meaning people you know what's your last name harley oh do you own now let me know let me ask you this

yeah you know since we've now started to you know really today is the start of no no yesterday was

the start of our 22nd year well yesterday was the anniversary so we were beginning our 22nd year

right right so this is the second day into our 22nd year yeah is it true one time with a management in the far past yes that there was a another co-host yes that they tried to yes give him the stage name of Davidson, so it would be the Harley and Davidson show.

Harley Davidson, yes. That was actually presented in an executive meeting.

Well, then see, they were worried about this show being too femmy.

The person had been on the show four months already, like six or eight months already, And all of a sudden, we lied to you. His name's not this. It's Davidson.

Really? It's Harley Davidson? They were trying to build up the testosterone manly man image of the show.

Well, you know, I mean, you know, because name stories are weird. So when people ask me about the motorcycle, I'm like, you know, I don't want to have to live up to that because I'm not a, you know, if i was related to the you know william s harley and i might be you know i didn't heck if i know my nephew works for the company that's all that's all i can tell you uh but i i actually on going back to the idea of thinking about going out of your way to project this masculinity you're you're If you're working too hard at it, it tells me that's really your focus, is your imagery, not the actual work you're doing.

I just love it, though. What a great point. And I've got to admit, the writer in The Atlantic makes a great point, and they're a liberal publication. But to sit there and say, well, you call yourself an iron worker, steel worker kind of guy, and then you talk about engaging culturally in male spaces probably you're just destroyed that point well because stereotypically if you're engaging if you're truly engaging

in male spaces well first of all i have to wonder is everyone wearing a shirt no you can make the

but but but also no you can make the case if you're saying i engage culturally in male spaces

that you're gay that's what i mean i mean you can make that i mean is everyone wrapped in a towel and wearing no shirt you know are you what's this what's going what's what kind and i don't know that i need to know the answer uh that's the whole thing is that you're it they go out of their way to project this do they workshop this is there a meeting no we know there are things they talk

about they all they get together they're trying to figure out how to do so they have meetings yes on how to be more manly men yes right right here's an idea when you for example when when uh uh you I was, well, I couldn't say it this way. Well, I have to say it this way if I want to be a manly man. Right. I was a machinist and I was a steel worker.

Uh-huh.

You have to use that kind of, that's a more manly kind of voice.

Right. I played guitar, drums, and bass in a metal band.

No, no, no, no. You've got to say it with more harshness.

No, that's how you talk when you're in a metal band. Oh, okay. You don't do the, yeah.

Well, you're right. You're right on that because the, I can't think of his name at the moment, his name because the uh the the lead guitarist for metallica doesn't talk that way yeah no no

james hetfield the singer doesn't talk that way and in fact none of the guys really kind of talk

that you you just you know it's are you saying you can throw stereotypes out the window that's stereotyping people to win an election based on gender and or sex if you're worried about that

you've got a big problem yeah you do if if because you know that's it when when someone appeals to a voter base in this case you'll know it yeah you won't have to to build all of that to bring it out there the vetting process itself is a process but you'll know it soon enough and you know like and we don't know any allegations of poindexter in terms of platner type allegations there's nothing no reason to believe that any of that's going on but still if you're working that hard. You know, because tell me in your male spaces what a man is. What are you talking to your buddies about? We are Red Eye Radio, brought to you by Hotshot Secret. Hi, I'm Jen Loomis,

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No, this is their playbook that we're going from. It's too much work. No, that's the thing. When the playbook, when the rulebook changes every day, what do you do? How do you do that? Because now, again, masculinity was toxic not too long ago. Now we need more masculinity in their party. That's what they're saying.

Not only masculinity. We need manly masculinity. Wow. That's double. Well, no, that's true. That's the way they phrased it. That's double secret toxic masculinity probation. You win.

Women who are masculine. Sorry. We don't need you in the party. I guess.

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we are red eye radio and he is eric harley and i'm gary mcnamara welcome and good morning uh one thing uh that we wanted to get to because uh we were on vacation last week and i was thinking about this on the way to work i go oh man we got to address this and this is where the democrats uh were last week uh as you know there's been a couple of more incidents of uh of ice agents uh uh shooting at um uh you know illegal immigrants or people that uh they believe are endangering their lives right as we know shooting at them and i did see last week and i can't remember which democrat it was uh that was saying because that happens we should get rid of ice and the first thought that i came to my mind is well when an illegal immigrant kills someone well then shouldn't we get rid of illegal immigration right if you're trying to make that if you're trying to make that point right but the the whole premise is bogus to begin with any law enforcement agent whether it's ice a police officer we know what happens when you pull out your gun and shoot at somebody whether you kill them or not it's all investigated yeah you go through the investigative process to make sure that it was a clean shooting and it should right and if it is not a clean shooting that's where uh prosecutors should get involved based on the evidence of each particular case. But to compare a law enforcement officer involved in a shooting and make the moral equivalency of that to an illegal immigrant murdering an innocent American citizen is absolutely reprehensible.

Well, and it's, again, any opportunity they can see to demonize. And, again, we don't know all the particulars in the cases we're talking about. We know the claims from both sides. The driver of the van was, you know, using the van and going toward the agent. and then the media came back and said no the people in the van said that wasn't true there's a reason there's an investigation if any officer or agent uses deadly force as you mentioned there has to be an investigation a thorough investigation And if something wrong was done, whether deliberately or by mistake, then the proper actions have to go into effect. That's the way it is. Saying that we need to abolish all of it because something happened doesn't make any sense at all. Otherwise, we should just outlaw driving.

yeah that's another point outlaw driving if these things happen outlaw driving tens of thousands of people die

Every year behind the wheel. Yeah. 30,000 to 40,000. But to make the moral equivalency, if you're going to make that moral equivalency, well, then you've got to say, well, because illegal immigrant criminals exist in our society, we should get rid of sanctuary cities. If you're going to be consistent in your argument that you need to defund the police, you need to, because this is where the Democrats are going, and, you know, defund the military, you know, you see what the Democrats are doing right now with the Pentagon, with intelligence, you know, with everything else, trying to defund it, you know, that's their point. If something is done wrong, or we believe something is done wrong, get rid of the police. This is where the Democratic Socialists of America are going. They're up front with it. They want to defund the police. They want to get rid of the police. They want to get rid of the military. They want to get rid of Border Patrol. They want to get rid of ICE. The Senate. They want to get rid of the Senate. And by the way, more people are coming out saying, you're not going to get rid of this. You have to change the entire Constitution. You have to get rid of the Constitution in order to do it. Which is really the goal. That's their point. That's the actual goal.

And they keep talking about this because what they're doing is they're there because when something doesn't work, especially when it doesn't work in their favor, but if there's some kind of mistake or anomaly or whatever in the process, then do away with it all and this has been for a long time the goal of the left do away with the constitution and they're the ones who are having the no kings rallies they're the ones calling trump a dictator because how would you how would you manage with no defense none no military you would have no border patrol you would have no police so how would it be managed well i mean it would be you know like out of that movie where you could commit crimes you know and and you know for the one day i keep forgetting the name of the movie but you you could just go out and just boom the purge the purge yeah yeah there was there was they made a i don't know if they made a series or made another purge movie or something permanent purge or something they called it and it would be that it would be a permanent purge but wait you can't have that because how many people would if you have no law enforcement you have no laws so right because if you can't enforce laws there are no laws right there are no laws so nothing is enforceable people die and then what has to happen inevitably well the state has to step in and they have to have the state police and i don't mean the each state having their police the federal police oh wait a minute didn't we just get rid of them didn't we just get rid of ice agents no no no no no this would be acting based on whose authority because congress would control the house would control everything they would control what the white house does which then why would you have a white house this is it's this is never going to happen but this is where the lack of logic these are not even children these aren't children because children are capable of learning these people are morons they're not capable of learning at all they're complete morons and they're still

winning elections you know i was i was thinking i had a lot of thoughts on my way to work tonight so you know republicans should have a no nazi rally yeah but the fact is everybody would be laughing and smiling right you know and they'd be laughing but remember the tea party remember

when people were happy at the tea party rallies the first tea party rallies remember that in 2009 and people were you know and the the the march the tea party march in dc and and it was what was it and hints of violence i think is the way they put it on nbc news there were hints of they didn't

even leave trash behind you know you know what i remember remember uh it was it was palm beach remember the election bureau when the republicans were all there in 2000 yeah and it was like the violent and they had the cameras there and everybody's

everybody's laughing yeah they're all laughing they're in i mean it was like there was no hint of of anything to be to be uh fearful of but you know when you see the no you can actually make the case for no nazis you can actually make the case republicans aren't going to bother with it right but you know but it's they look at it and they just go you know as we look at it we go the no kings was so stupid i mean it's stupid it was absolutely idiotic because anybody with a brain could sit there and say what do you mean no kings what what do you what what are you talking about you know i was thinking the other thing too because we were talking about that article in the atlantic about the whole manly the manly man that they're looking for now in the democratic Party and the one candidate, Poindexter, in Ohio, in Cleveland, about how they're defining him as a manly man because he built a shed, was a machinist, and an iron worker, so he's a manly man, and a manly man engages culturally in male spaces, and even the Atlantic said, probably not how you should define a manly man, but I started thinking, are they now redefining it because the whole point of well this guy you know the oyster farmer for his mother uh and a nazi that's really was the oyster farmer the the the military and the nazi that was giving him democrat street cred as a manly man and i'm thinking this they're they're now looking go okay we've got to redefine this we can't have a nazi we cannot have a nazi definition for what we view

was a manly man right i mean i wonder if they had that thought no i mean i i think there i think there's something to that yeah i i think it's i i think they go again they go through their own rule book and they're changing everything on the fly because why because certain things aren't working they're not appealing to certain demographics now again as i mentioned they're still winning elections yeah but you have to look at the erosion of their base based on what we've talked about for years identity politics which means you belong to a new subgroup tomorrow which means everyone in your group yesterday is now an oppressor because you're in a different subgroup they're your oppressor now and we're seeing that you know we used to call that the liberal circular firing squad but now it's gotten so much worse is that now after reading the

atlantic article and seeing the manly man mr poindexter is that a new gender manly man is the manly man a new gender does that expand the number of genders which i don't know i saw one the other day there was like 77 out well but here's a manly man now a new gender is he gonna if they bring can a manly man as we asked the question earlier can a manly man gender be a transgender

man right yeah that i mean we have to include that like you said we mentioned it earlier but

you have to include that and how do you include it can a cis woman be a manly man right these are all the important questions because of what Democrats have brought up over the last couple of decades these are just questions that we would like answers to well because of a biological

female lives as a man is a transgender male biological female transgender male at what level do they qualify for manly I'm asking them yeah yeah that's and I know what you're saying

guys you're being ridiculous that's our point yeah we know the whole damn thing is ridiculous

it's stupid it's moronic and none of them are talking about what they will do for you to improve your lives what they're talking about and the promises they're making and the very foundation of the democratic socialists of america is to ruin your life not to improve it what are they doing what's on that list that improves people's lives every day american citizens free stuff not gonna happen not gonna happen no police that only that only no no billionaires well i mean

Your life will be better if there's no billionaires. No police. What, are you trying to appeal to felons? They can't vote. Well, they're trying to change that. They're trying to change that. This would be, again, look, who are they trying to actually help? Well, no, that's a great thing. Hey, Republicans, ask that question. Who are you trying to help? They say defund the police. Who are they trying to help? Defund the police, defund the military, defund Border Patrol. Who do you actually care about? Why would I vote for you? Right. Who are you appealing to? What's the point? What are you going to replace it with? Because masculine men like cops and military. It's a fact. The manly.

Oh, man.

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we are running with you he is our carly and i'm gary mcnamara welcome and uh and good morning so uh i think we're done with the manly man stuff i don't know for the for at least for the day i don't know at least for the day it might come back up tomorrow if if there's other commentary on it i just it would just be too tough for me to be a liberal there's too many things you have to consider all i have to consider now is what my opinion is you know i don't worry about anything else that's like what's my opinion that's it just focus on what i believe and then let all the other stuff just kind of fly by and am i selling my ideas yeah with with the proper identity politics behind it what do you believe what do you want to do top of the hour news is brought to you by house products visit houseproducts.com

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red eye radio he is eric harley and i'm gary mcnamara hello hi so that wasn't two manly men there comments where we said that we should say hello and welcome to the show we're manly men and listen we don't care if you like the show or not we're busy doing things building stuff i got a hammer i got a you know if i had a hammer you'd have when would you hammer i i would hammer in the morning really i would hammer in the evening i'd hammer all all over this land oh okay that's sort of inclusive yeah but but you need to you you definitely need to stop when it's hammer time that's what i was told well you know yesterday wasn't it amazing how all of a sudden the you know for a couple of really for the last month you

You saw it because Trump had brought it up before. And it was like, all you heard was daylight savings, daylight savings. And man, it came to a big halting stop yesterday, didn't it? Shocked. It was like, boom. It was like, what? And as I said, I don't care. It doesn't affect my life. But we have talked about the fact that, did you see places in North Dakota? it'll be well after uh nine o'clock like 9 20 9 30 before the sun yeah sunrise did i save that

no i i i mentioned that yesterday i didn't mention it was exactly where it was but in some areas that'll be after 9 a.m before the sun rises by the way i'm all right with that that's the thing i'm i'm not a farmer i don't have kids in school i care about children most of them but no i look safety i don't look look when it comes to kids safety third okay but no it it's it's that everybody has a solid point on both sides this is where the both sides thing actually comes in because you're not this is why you're never going to change it you know whoever wants whatever for whatever reason whichever one they want yeah but i but you you don't understand but it's no i get it

i forgot who wrote it yesterday said look let's compromise we'll change it 30 minutes yeah yeah

I, that's what I would love to, you know, again, go an hour and seven minutes in just, just our state.

Well, it just, I mean, Tom Cotton has said already, you know, we had talked about it yesterday that, that Cotton and Thune said, well, this isn't ever going to get through the Senate. No, it's not going to happen. So it's, so it's, it's basically what I, the message I got yesterday, unless something changes, this thing's done in arrival.

Yeah, because here's the thing. You have the momentum in terms of the rank and file, right, the public, of let's stop changing the clocks. There's momentum then, and then you ask the question, okay, which one do we go with? And that's where it begins. And that's also where it ends because it will never be solved. it's a valid point for farmers it's a valid point for people in north dakota all 17 of them what's the population of north dakota very small um but it's you know it's let me see right now

population is 100 when you add the out-of-state oil workers 20 million 20 million

it's booming no but there's another thing you know uh it's it's a it's a a productive state it's you know you you think about the you know the farmers they're trying to be productive they're getting up at 3 a.m so they can get out there as soon as the sun lets them i mean they're out there probably doing all many chores in the dark already you know uh how do you get that done um sometimes you have to calve in the in the in the dark you know if you're a rancher sorry if that if that uh calf is ready to come out it's time but kids going to school that's a genuine concern i live as i mentioned just a few houses down from the elementary where where three of my four kids went um that's how long i've lived there and that's actually how long it took them to finish elementary school um but my my grandson one of my grandchildren is actually attending that school and so i'm it's very active right it's it's right there i'm in i live inside a school zone and there are children still that walk there's this most adorable couple of kids one is an older kid looks like he's probably in middle school that goes to pick up his brother and they live in nearby apartments it looks i think that's where they're headed but he's walking with him every day after school uh and i see it a few times probably a few times a week during school year if i'm running errands um but you see all these kids walking and and there and there's a six lane road they have to cross you know um there's tons of cars people dropping their children off with their cars pulling into the parking lot it gets very dangerous.

dangerous it's dangerous in daylight so people who are making the case of you know kids having to go to school in the dark you know i mean these are all valid points which is why you're not politically you'll never get it done and if if you could by i don't know some weird set of circumstances all of a sudden it happens the moment it happens lobbyists will be back there on capitol hill and it will change back pretty quickly it i i can't tell you when what i thought

was interesting is because this is the the we went through all the discussion yesterday about the practicality of it either way and i don't care it doesn't affect my life i understand both sides points but what got to me is how over the last month month and a half how you only heard one side it's like people don't pay attention until it passes and then it goes to the senate and then it was just a dead stop yeah you didn't hear really i didn't hear any opposition over the

last month and a half i know it looked like it which made it look the stories made it look like

it was gonna happen this good this thing was gonna happen here it is it's gonna go through yeah and i mean and it just took a dead stop yesterday that's what i thought is fascinating And it's all of a sudden people started paying attention going, well, wait a minute, I don't want that. Well, yes, we need to change it. And as we brought up yesterday, the polling, the majority of people don't want to be changing every year. But which way it goes, you know, depending on who you survey, can be 55-45.

Right. Exactly.

And so it's just not.

And in the Senate, the margin is so slim. If you think about it, what you're looking at is what each state will do, right? That's what you're looking at. So the Senate, obviously, representing states, they're looking at it going, we've got, you know, industry, we've got teachers associations or whatever, you know, is behind it. lobbyists that are behind it and they're going to and that though you know they're going to be hearing from those lobbies from those states in the house they're hearing from it in their districts but you can get a little bit looser in the house than you can with something like this specifically as it addresses what the states would be able to do with their time zones and how it would affect industry which and and affect schools because if you start thinking about this all right we'll just change the school hours to later in the morning well in north dakota you mean start at 9 30 i mean kids would love that i'm sure they'd love it but what what about the

parents that still have to be to work at eight the biggest thing i saw yesterday was most people did not know they thought that it would be a federal law that every state must abide by daylight savings and that's not the law that's what i saw people want oh i thought that was the law right and the law basically says no if you wish to if you wish to go to daylight saving all year you can do that right if you wish to continue to switch that's fine right the states can or or If you wish to go to standard. Then you got the patchwork. Imagine the patchwork. And people said, well, we didn't know this was the law. We thought it was, okay, we're going to do daylight saving. And the funny thing is the number of people on social media yesterday that were telling other people this law, the law cannot change the amount of time that the sun actually shines on the earth. I've been saying this for years. I mean, it was hilarious yesterday.

I've said this over and over again every time we've talked about it. You cannot regulate how much sun we're going to get.

It's hilarious.

There's no way to do that. It's about, all right, when the sun is going to rise or set. Look, I get it in the winter. You know, the further north you go, you know, the sun is setting at 4.30, 5 o'clock. You know, it's just, it's crazy. But when you look at, again, everything, every interest that's involved, that's why politically there's no way to get this done. And what would it be? What would it look like, you know, if you have in each time zone, you know, different states, you know, half of the states are staying with it. Others aren't. Oh, my gosh. Well, OK. What's the current Omaha time? I mean, you know, you know what I mean? It's and.

And why can't cities have the right to say, no, we're going to change it, and we're going to change it two hours. Well, wait a minute. You know, if a man can be a woman because a man says so, why can't I legally set my own time? Well, Alan Jackson did. It's 5 o'clock somewhere. Dusty Slay, the comedian, has a great bit on that because he talks about it, it's half past noon, and then he said later, it's 5 o'clock somewhere. He goes, no, it might be 5.30 somewhere. He does a great breakdown. Dusty Slade. You've got to check him out. But why can't I as an individual set my own time? I want it to be the time that I want it to be. And, hey, I saw that the one woman talking about the Democratic Socialists of America and one of the representatives said, under socialism, you don't have to show up for work every day. Right. And I'm thinking to myself, what socialism are you dealing with? No, exactly. What do you think? I mean, you don't just show up for work. So if you don't show up for work, why can't I have my own time? Why can't I just say, hey, I'm Gary McNamara, and we come in at one minute after 12, and one minute later we leave because, to me, time moves that quickly, and we can go home. I identify that as a 24-hour workday, and I get overtime. Yes. Yes. Why? Like your minute, how dare you project onto me what a minute means, Mr. Scientist, Mr. Neil deGrasse Tyson. Well, I'm a minute manly man. Exactly. Well, that can mean a couple of different things. That was the point. Minutes are a long time. But here's the thing. oh god everything goes yeah in order to get that joke you had to listen to the first hour yeah you do and you also probably have to yeah so anyway um the you're never this they do this it seems like we go through this once a year ah we're gonna do it this time oh i know we're gonna do it this time we hear this we're hearing this as much as we hear secession is california going to secede whatever happened to the texas secession movement that sort of ended nobody wanted my deal my deal was we secede from the union we annexed mexico we gather all of our energy together we become the energy superpower and we rename ourselves texaco well nobody seems to want to go along with that during the biden years we did annex mexico it happened for four years no huh they annexed us oh that's right actually it was central america but you i mean seriously if

if you if you look at at the ridiculous nature uh it's nothing is ridiculous about the points people are making no they all have valid points but the ridiculous nature of how congress works thinking you know and making people because in the house as you mentioned for days it sounded like this thing was going to happen this time and i'm and i'm shaking my head nope it ain't gonna happen it ain't gonna happen i said it the other night on the air it's not gonna happen it ain't gonna happen and it's not gonna happen because you get into that our senators who represent now here's the thing if we get rid of the senate then maybe we can get it done well i was talking about that yesterday you know because because you You look at how the House is viewed as the people's legislative body, and they're very much reactionary, as you saw. It was like, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. It's just boom-ba. Yes, victory is our cry. Daylight savings time. Senate stops. Yeah. Thune is like, how about now? I mean, it was just, it was over before it all began. It really was because you and I have been doing this a long time, we know. And this whole debate has come up. It seems like every year for years now. And, again, valid points on each side, which means you're not going to get to a conclusion. It's just not going to happen.

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when we were on vacation last week and it's funny that so much happened last week that i know we're ready to thursday and still oh that's right well when when it came out last week almost when i was on vacation i'm thinking look at this everybody's talking about the democratic socialist of america now and what they actually plan on doing i said we talked about that two weeks ago and then i went oh wait a minute that was from their convention they actually put out their policy statement yeah this is and this is yeah and and that's why there was so much talk i go oh okay they but and and this is something that we want to talk about the last thing that we want to do is censor what the democrat socialist of america want to do right and this is i gotta tell you eric you know when you're i was in my early 30s when i started doing this yeah yeah and you know at that at that time you're like well what what do you have to say you know And so you would have more tolerance for the crazies. Yeah. When you've done it for decade after decade after decade after decade after decade, it gets to a point where you're like, these people don't have the intelligence of somebody in kindergarten. They have no idea. They have no concept how the world works at all. Right. I knew more in elementary school than they do now. thank you mom and dad yeah you know that's a big that's a big part of it they have no idea how the economy works they have no idea how the real world works

well you know i i made i made the joke yesterday that you know after world war ii or during world war ii women came into the workforce right uh and so that kind of expanded the economy i think it's time we bring children into the workforce and i made the joke with kind of a serious point that you know the indoctrination in school at you know starting now at four or five years old in preschool uh is is what worries me the most what if we just put them to work and they learned about the real world right on you know i mean they'd have to get a you know an apartment of their own of course um but this is you know this is what we don't teach again good parents do good mentors do but these this entire lineup this entire policy put out by the dsa it's not written by children because children would be asking why why are we doing this

it's written by morons here we go this is uh the democratic socialist of america michaela brangen uh talking about this utopia that you will live in under socialism are you ready i'm ready all right here we go let's go and you don't have to have a job just to pay the bills

because you don't have a lot of bills right bills are no longer a thing because there's not for-profit businesses that are constantly trying to exploit you and trying to, you know, put you into debt. And then you might just have like a normal day, right? Like you could actually have the freedom to move around. And so part of what we're trying to do is dispel the idea that socialism is just about like bureaucracy, meetings, order, or anything like that. It actually is about freedom. It's about people being able to be themselves. It's about people being able to actually flourish under a system where they're not constantly being exploited and where they're not constantly worried about these basic things it takes to live if you don't have to worry about the basic things it takes to live then you can thrive right and then

you can actually lead your life instead of just survive wow where do i start socialism is about freedom but you can't have a business you can't have choices you can't have choices you live in this system there is no which which is the if there are no if nobody makes a profit why is money worth anything it's not it isn't it isn't what gives money value they have no idea how economics works none zero why was the soviet ruble worth nothing no productivity no productivity

and and and you can't change that dynamic right you can't say oh no we can be greatly productive and have all of our choices and you know i made the point about the walk into the big box store and just imagine you would just have you would just go up to the front and they would just go okay go on home it's all paid for yeah i mean by the way i it you know and and that's the other thing too because it's it's part of they they don't want property rights property rights would

be gone yeah you just said it right there there would be no for-profit businesses right which means you can't have any rentals well well the whole point is why are there products if there's no incentive to to build the products what they're saying is i'm gonna and what you and the other thing is too that you can tear it apart there is no bureaucracy you know this isn't about bureaucracy So government owns everything. Everything is non-for-profit, yet there's zero bureaucracy. All it is is bureaucracy. The whole damn thing is bureaucracy.

Because the entire production of everything would be one massive bureaucracy. Distribution, the supply chain, the management of it all. Everything. Every part of it. and and imagine walking into i don't care what tucker carlson tried to sell you of course that wasn't during the soviet union he was in russia but it wasn't it was post-soviet yeah but they

it's it's still major problems you know it's yes because if you want to see the the what has kept china going it's because china realized they couldn't be pure communist socialists right they can't be that right and that's why that's why you can have for-profit businesses now in china that's why people can own property that's why you can own a business now would i want to own a business in china under a government that still believes in communism but understands they're trying to ride that fine line you see the couple of stories out this week about you know china you know doesn't know what to do because you know the the central planning doesn't work when you try to mix central planning in with capitalism you're always going to have problems but hey we you see what we're doing here in the united states yeah you know where i mean uh even it's only i think 30 billion dollars right now but it's much easier to sell socialism when the guy who calls himself a conservative president trump believes that the government should have equity in corporations yeah it's much easier to sell socialism and communism when both sides agree that it should happen but to what extent is far different on one side it's 30 billion on the other side it's

everything well that's it and and and here's the you know the massive driver you know it's it's incentivized we're in the gig work area or or uh era and that's when people can say all right i can go make a little a few extra bucks on my own time or if there's someone in the home that's not working for whatever reason but they can do those gig works and it's what's weird is i've studied the kind of algorithm that they have and how the ones who are actually making the most take advantage of everything that's available.

to them they're not doing just one they're working for three or four delivery app companies and they're you know making you know it's they're not going to get rich doing it but they're making extra money or maybe extra money for the household and that is right there when you when you look at it in california said oh no you've got to make them employees you do that you destroy the business model because you need contractors who are willing to do it are there flaws in the way that some of these delivery drivers are paid or what they're paid and and the business model in general and how to attract more of those drivers in order to get your you know the entire thing going and keep the whole thing going yes are there business models that you have to adjust constantly constantly capitalism but we're not amazon didn't but that isn't even the discussion no no the discussion is you could not be an uber driver that's that's my point you couldn't be an uber driver which is what i'm getting to you choose to do that because hey i can do this on my own time it's my own thing if it doesn't work out i can go do something else uh if i want to do more i can do more you can't make a profit and you can't make profit we have people coming here from other countries you and i have both uh recently met people here from other countries that were uber drivers and the guy i met was here from cuba has been here for three years and is loving it and he's doing and he says and i do others he had he had two phones going at once you know because he's working every angle that he can based on where he is to maximize the money that he can make that he can earn you would have none of that you would have none of that you couldn't have your own business you can't have your own profit as an individual right no there's no way you couldn't have a lawn company right you know which you know again these guys aren't getting uh you know landscaping or or or lawn companies the small guys they're not getting rich you know but you couldn't have that well you when you when you look at it when they say every business is a non-profit business you'd have to have non-profit that the government would control everything right non-profit well you're capping the ability to make a profit which means you're capping the ability of the worker to make more money right which means and the tax rate It would be basically you do that with one way to do it was a massive tax rate. And what they're saying is we take all of it.

We will cap your salary, but you will have the minimal sustenance and you'll be happy with that because the tradeoff is the minimal sustenance that we will give you, but your salary will be capped, but the minimal sustenance will be what will take care of you. That's not the United States of America. And also that's that's not how free people think the choice of jobs, what you want to do or what your skills are would matter, would be would be would be meaningless completely. Would be limited by the state, what the state wishes to produce. Government would say, no, you're going to do this job. We are Red Eye Radio.

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We are Red Eye Radio. He's Eric Carlin. I'm Gary McNamara. I'm convinced that the Democrat Socialists of America are bringing back acid to the drug buffet. Yeah. I'm sorry, but I just... And I don't think it's microdosing. No, this is macrodosing. Yeah, no, I think they're going big on this. big big macro dosing because it's delusional well it's delusional and it's also filled with so much ignorance we're going to have a monopoly a government monopoly a central planning government monopoly of non-profit businesses to run an economy well it goes back to milton friedman define greed who's greedy it's always the other guy who's greedy political greed is that not greed Yeah. You know, Phil Donahue back in the day, you know, couldn't really debate him at all. Yeah, because his point was, what's worse greed? Right. You're making a huge assumption that political greed is somehow more moral than economic greed. Right.

if you're going to use the word greed. Because that would be political greed at its top, is the government having full control over the people at all times. But economic greed, where everything is voluntary, is not political greed, which is forced. Right. Yeah.

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