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Behind the Scenes Minis: Shoes, Shoes, Shoes!
Stuff You Missed in History Class

Behind the Scenes Minis: Shoes, Shoes, Shoes!

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July 17, 2026 | 00:30:15 | History, Society & Culture

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Holly and Tracy discuss how frustrating Charles Goodyear could be. Then Holly talks a lot about shoes and how much she loves them. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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00:00:00 - 00:01:34 | Speaker 3:

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Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of iHeartRadio. Hello and happy Friday. I'm Holly Frey. And I'm Tracy V. Wilson. Oh, Lordy, we talked about Charles Goodyear this week. We did. Dude. Yeah. So, if he had made all the decisions he made and it were just him, if it was just him... Yeah, fine. Maybe going to debtor's prison, maybe being in a, like, rented room eating beans with no money and in debt. I would not have found him very frustrating. Great. You are a man who loves your work. Yeah. The fact that he had a wife and a bajillion children. And parents that he was trying to also take care of. And we can make a whole argument about how, like, it was not okay that society made it so that he was the one responsible and that the other people in his life did not have the same power to earn money or whatever that was a society he was living in it was his job he was not doing the job uh yeah to pursue to pursue his dreams of of of rubber Well, and it's weird, right? There's something psychological that's very puzzling to me. Like I found the more research I did about him, the more like angry and frustrated I became. And by the one point, my husband had walked into my office and I was just like, I'm so tired. Just because it's really frustrating to like, it's like if you have a friend that keeps making bad choices.

00:05:00 - 00:05:25 | Speaker 2:

and it's painful to watch them make bad choices over and over i was like you you willfully kept making bad choices when like someone would be like here's your escape hatch and you'd be like no dude i'm gonna keep struggling yeah and again it was all trial and error so it wasn't like he was like well my formulas have gotten me i really think i've worked it out i just need to make it

00:05:25 - 00:06:04 | Speaker 1:

he was just like i'm gonna try something else yeah yeah um i also understand the friends that helped him out with money feeling deeply frustrated by him yes um but i i also advocate if if someone in your life needs help and you help them you have helped let's put this out of your mind right right right like you can focus on the fact that that person owes you money forever or you consider that this was a gift that you gave that person to help them yeah um yeah and

00:06:04 - 00:07:09 | Speaker 2:

I think I think some of his friends were like that they were like I yeah I gave you a gift but the we mentioned that he got that like seven bucks from a friend that came with a letter that was pretty chastisey right but it sounded like I did not read that letter I only have it literally from Goodyear's writings and another biographer. And even they make it sound like the guy was like, I'm only doing this because I care about your wife and your kids. You gotta like get your act together, dude. Yeah. And it wasn't like that one, you know, in that case is a loan. That one is literally like a... Here's $7. I'm trying to help you. But also you also have to help you. Which I would love to read that letter. Because if, you know, I wrote that letter today, it would be very strongly ordained. But I think in a lot of the cases when people were like when he was having his debts called in, most of those are people he had made business deals with. Yeah. That they were like, I want to invest in you. You're right. Rubber is the future. Great. Oh, crap. You don't know what you're doing.

00:07:09 - 00:07:25 | Speaker 1:

Right. And that's a very different situation and probably or possibly one that involved written out terms of how this financial arrangement was going to work and when payment was due and all of that. Yeah. Probably.

00:07:25 - 00:09:33 | Speaker 2:

I uh yeah he was such a Billy Dreamer and I in many ways I love people like that I love people that have these ideas that they just become like obsessed with like I love that concept but again not when you're actively hurting people because you are ignoring the needs of those you're supposed to care for yeah like I feel like the coda of his life kind of has a similar moment right he had a five day old child when he left yeah to go to connecticut now that's not to say that he shouldn't have gone to his dying daughter right right but also he's leaving his wife behind who is postpartum uh-huh to do that and she ended up having to travel not long after right while she was still physically probably recovering from having a kid right i i don't know where the baby was in this if the baby stayed behind in dc or if she took the baby with her but like i don't know if they had a discussion where he's like i hate to do this but i gotta go but given the things he did throughout his life i suspect he just said that i gotta go part and then went yeah i didn't mean to do a smear campaign against charles Goodyear, but it's a little bit tricky not to sometimes. You know, there's this tendency in a lot of writing about inventors to assume that if they invented something important, they were great men. And often that leads to like some whitewashing of their real truth, including, I mean, it goes right to like oh and then his father's hardware store um had to close no it was his hardware store right he went out on his own and screwed up on his own by his own self um like I just there's a lot of stuff that often softens yeah kind of the the poor decision making that he was pro to

00:09:33 - 00:10:01 | Speaker 1:

it also reminds me in some ways of the way that a lot of people talk about writers and artists and other people who are working in some kind of creative field um and really romanticizing that and making the act of creativity seem like an otherworldly situation yeah when a lot of this is really like that's someone's You

00:10:00 - 00:10:02 | Speaker 2:

job and their profession. Of course he's

00:10:02 - 00:10:03 | Speaker 3:

temperamental. He's a creator.

00:10:04 - 00:10:37 | Speaker 2:

Right. He's a jerk. There's many, many layers that I find incredibly frustrating in that kind of discussion that I think is connected to the fact that he tried all of these different things and came up with a really important invention that kind of makes it seem like a romantic ideal rather than a disaster financially for his family that went on for years.

00:10:38 - 00:13:27 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, and often when he had options that could have saved them and kept himself afloat, he turned them down. That's the thing that I always get. I do want to end this on a more fun note, though. Okay. Because there was, no, the sneakers are probably still coming because, you know, I love me some shoes. um there is a fun part in my opinion of his obsessive inventiveness which is okay you know it all started for him his his pursuit of perfecting rubber because he had bought a life preserver and it needed some tweaking to really work as well as it could I found myself in that moment wondering why is this man buying a life preserver like he didn't did he have a boat he's literally like already struggling financially i never saw anything about a boat but he really wanted a life preserver and then there's a portion of his book where he talks about how important life preservers are like i don't know if he had a formative experience that made him afraid of the water or afraid of drowning but he had this vision of really like creating just literal boatloads of safety equipment for ships wow he thought not only should they all have like the latest and greatest life preservers at all times he thought that even like furniture should have like recessed pockets where inflatable things would pop out of and you could inflate them and people could like use a table as a life preserver essentially okay if you know they had these rubber balloons that would come out and that they can inflate that like every piece of furniture should also have this dual function of being potentially like a not just a like oh i can float on this piece of wood but like a custom made form of life preserver um functionality which is actually pretty fascinating to me yeah um but nobody really got as excited about as was the case many times with him but I can't imagine if you're around somebody who keeps going I have a great idea and they keep kind of messing up or like they don't they have the idea they've developed it and then they don't like get it to the finish line because they're busy with another idea we don't like to diagnose but I do recognize game recognizes game there may have been some ADHD in that mix um but like how people would be like cool charles yeah everything's a life preserver yep yep yep like i could see why he didn't get a lot of buy-in from the people around him but from a creativity standpoint i think those are kind of fascinating ideas yeah

00:13:27 - 00:14:26 | Speaker 2:

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00:17:25 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 2:

i'm gonna talk about one of my favorite things this week it was shoes um listen i love the shoes we all we all know it's not a secret um i did want to mention for people that are interested in the more modern stuff that uh i said we were not getting into like we kind of took any of the modern companies up to basically the point where they kind of became really established and then we we left off but um there is a great series of books called all gone that started in 2006 by michael depoy and it basically um you know catalogs like limited edition sneakers and stuff and you can watch like the way different designs get uh you know these short burst runs or like collaborations, et cetera. And I just love it. To me, that's a really interesting way to look at like the way fashion is evolving in relation to shoes. Love it, love it, love it. I just want to mention that. There are a lot out there as well of other books about modern shoe culture and sneaker heads. Here is why I don't consider myself a sneaker head. I love sneakers. I don't have Holy Grail shoes generally. I'm more like, oh my God, this came out and I'm in love with it. I'll buy it. But I don't collect in any kind of ordered manner. And I wear mine, which I know a lot of people don't. There was a thing. Gosh, I'm really like the memory banks just kind of spat this one out just now. I remember seeing, you know, one of those viral videos of a guy proposing to his beloved courtside at a basketball game. and when he got down and when he there were a lot of people in the comments going oh my gosh he's gonna crease those those Jordans and I was like yeah because their sneakers you're supposed to wear but I know for a lot of people that is the end of their value yeah and I'm not like that which is why I don't think of myself as being part of that culture it's like the never removed from box dolls I have some of those but my thing is not about their value it's that usually the way they are put in the box for merchandising purposes looks prettier than anything that's going to happen once I get it out. Oh, sure. Because a lot of times box design is also its own art. So I do have a lot of toys that are still in their boxes, but it's usually.

00:20:00 - 00:22:54 | Speaker 1:

for that reason um or i'm like scared a cat will bite it if it has very appealing looking fur or something um but yeah i'm that's why i can't i can't ever be in it i just want fun shoes and i like yeah i'd love having shoes custom printed when i can there are a lot of services that do that now it's a problem just saying i love shoes i'm going to reference several things that you're not going to remember, but please come with me on this journey. Okay, I'll try. One, and it's going to keep happening because as you said, there's a guarantee that we'll have Samuel Plimsoll talk coming up soon. But the whole time I was working on this, I could not get the song A Million Miles Away out of my head. Do you remember this song? I would probably recognize it if I heard it, but I'm not calling it to mind. It's from the early 1980s. It's from a band called the plimsolls okay p-l-i-m-s-o-u-l uh although they pulled that name from the shoe and they were very popular in the early 1980s la scene but they were in the movie valley girl that came out in 1983 starring nicholas cage they actually performed like in a club in that movie and i that song is emblazoned on my memory forever so every time samuel plimsoll's name comes up it That's what you're thinking? Funny. Just starts it again. And it's a good song, so I'm happy for it. That's no problem. That's no problem. The other, and if anybody else knows about this one, I feel like I keep referencing things I saw in magazines growing up that I'm like, where did this go? There was a time, and I first saw it in a magazine, where Vans was doing this program where if you sent them a yard of fabric and money, they would make you a custom pair of shoes with it whoa and i was obsessed with this concept and i saved up money and i saved up money and i saved up money and when i had enough money the program had ended and i was like the saddest sad of sad town that is very sad which is probably why i am so obsessed with uh designing shoe prints today um and getting them printed because i love that biz i love a custom shoe oh i love a custom shoe i will customize it myself if i have to um just shoes shoes shoes anyway the Vans mail in the dream I want to know if anybody did that how it came out if they still have those shoes I hope they do like I just think that's a fraught concept and I first saw it in a magazine like you know one of those like fashion and lifestyle magazines for like teens and young women sure I don't remember which one but I sure do remember seeing it and going yeah um because i wanted all part of it um i can't type the word tennis

00:22:54 - 00:24:58 | Speaker 1:

without typing tennish it i tried to catch them all i did not in this episode as you no doubt noticed uh-huh i just could not do it i only noticed because it's it tripped you up and i It did trip me up. I was like, oh, there's a typo again. What tripped up hot? Oh, it says ten-ish. Ten-ish. One of the other things that came up a lot in research, particularly when I was trying to identify as much information as I could about sand shoes, and I was looking at old newspapers, story after story. At first, I thought they were all talking about the same story. No, it kept happening. Theft of sand shoes. Oh, no. Apparently this was a real problem in the 1880s and 90s where people would go to the beach and they wouldn't like, they weren't like aqua shoes where you might wear them right into the water. It seemed like people would leave their shoes on the beach and then go into the water and little hoodlums would come and steal those shoes. And there was just notice after notice of like, so-and-so's sand shoes were stolen from this beach at this time. Investigators are on it. And I'm just like, oh my Lord. can you imagine being the detective who gets another theft of all the sand shoe complaints they're just like tie him to your wrist or something guys this is i have other stuff the dazzler brothers that whole story is a lot there are a lot of books written about it yeah yeah there are a lot of news pieces written about it because it really changed their town where they grew up because they they kind of divided the town there was one article i was reading and i don't remember which one it was but it is in our sources that was about how like for a lot of people it was like are you an adidas person are you a pumas person where do your parents work which factory do they work at what are you like that's all you would be wearing there was no crossover. It was very wild.

00:25:00 - 00:26:21 | Speaker 6:

The whole wild thing with the war is really fascinating because apparently, and don't anybody quote me on this because I did a very fast read because I wasn't getting deep into all of this. Apparently, Rudy, who had been called up in 1943, deserted in 1945. Oh. And he was captured and was imprisoned for this. and he always blamed his brother saying that his brother had turned him in oh but again a lot of this is kind of like pieced together and we don't know the accuracy of it either apparently also their two wives really did not get along and they had continued to live in the family house with their parents and their new wives and families so it was just like a bunch of people getting angrier and angrier at each other for a while and this once they split in 1848 it was a complete severing of their relationship to the point that when those two men died many years later they were buried on opposite sides of the cemetery so they wouldn't even be close to each other and the families would not see each other if they happened to visit at the same time that's a feud That's a... Yeah, that's a feud.

00:26:25 - 00:27:21 | Speaker 5:

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00:30:53 - 00:33:52 | Speaker 3:

I mentioned at the top of the episode that, you know, their ethics issues to consider when buying things and it's something I think about a lot because I am a listen I'm a consumer in my soul I love stuff it's not even I uh it's not even like a thing where I I need the stuff I just want one I I want to support the creation of beautiful things and two like I just they're magical little things I love them um but it is harder you know when you realize how dicey these some some practices are you have to start looking really really closely at them and it it becomes a little bit weird um so i just encourage everyone to do as as much digging as you can on how companies run like i said there are still opaque parts of the supply chain though it's hard as a consumer to get the whole picture but more and more watchdog groups are always trying more and more companies do seem to be trying but there's always that level of suspicion of like, are you really disclosing everything? But anyway, trying to be an ethical consumer is its own job in many ways. I do also want to reference something else that I loved and is gone but lives on in a weird way. It's going back to that custom shoe thing. There was a company briefly named Customatics and Customatics was magical because they, it was started, I forget what companies they worked for. It was started by a couple, two or three guys that had worked for some of the big sneaker manufacturers and had kind of all felt like they hit the ceiling and they wanted to do something new for themselves. And they basically put together this site where you could kind of design your own shoes. And like they would have a model, but they had a very wide range of like finishes you could pick. They had a wide range of shoes. Like I have some very cute silver boots that I got from them still. I got a lot of sneakers from them. They did like skate shoes. They did all the stuff. And then you could do additional things like have various embroidered motifs on it. Like I just it was a terrific, terrific sight. And they also were very much in the hey, the shoe industry needs to change. They were very forthcoming about here is the factory that we're using. Here's what we did to set it up. Here's how we're trying to compete with other factories in the area and make sure that like our employees are getting better treatment again i want to say it's not like i'm boots on the ground i'm going by what they said so there's always possibility but what's interesting is that they eventually had to shutter however converse which is now owned by nike bought their customization software so if you go to like the converse site now and you build yourself a pair of chucks you're essentially using the software and the whole back end that they built. And this was years ago. This was in the late 90s, I think,

00:33:52 - 00:35:00 | Speaker 3:

that they were making this, maybe early 2000s. But the function is still very similar to how it was on those old customatics anyway. Sneaker people rise up. I live, I live for it. I live for it. I'm sorry to bore you with shoe talk. Shoe talk. i just love it i love i love seeing i love seeing design i also have that problem i think we've talked about this on the show before i don't like having the same stuff as other people yeah i just don't it's fine if you do but i never have since i was very small which is why i started making my own clothes which is why there's a workshop i want to go to where you make your own sneakers yeah i just need to like rally a couple people to go with me so we can all have like a sneaker getaway um but then they're gonna be like wow you're weird about this so we'll see what the success level is there are also kits you can do and i might i might invest in one or two of those because the problem is that i'm going to want to make two bazillion pair and I have...

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As you mentioned, a lot of shoes. How many? I don't know. We don't do that kind of reckoning in our house. Once it passes a certain threshold, I'm like the Rougarou. I can't count past a certain number and I refuse to do it. I won't do it. The number is more than 13, but I don't know the number. Yeah. Now I'm thinking about what shoes I'm going to pack for an upcoming trip. Anyway, do you have any other thoughts on shoes? No. You're like, no, I tapped out at the end of the episode. I do not have the same love for shoes. And I also have wide toes and a narrow heel. Yeah. And I have a hard time finding shoes that fit me well, because at this stage of my life, I am unwilling to cram my toes into shoes that do not have enough room for them. Yeah, me either. So I tend to find a shoe that I like that fits me well, that holds up to the long distances that I like to walk around, and then I will buy, that is just the shoe that I will buy. Forever, until they change the last. Yes, until they change the last, and then I will walk in them until either the internal support breaks down or until the soles are worn out, and then I will put them in the shoe recycling thing and get a new one. usually if mine start to get to the point where they're breaking down with a few exceptions they kind of get semi-retired uh-huh where they're on the shelf and i love them and they might come out for like a brunch once in a while yeah they don't stay in regular use after that point in time um but you never know you never know and i do i have a lot of um the pandemic caused this little problem with both shoes and clothes, which is leading up to when the pandemic started. I was traveling a lot for work. We were doing some more live shows. I was bolstering up my wardrobe of like nice shoes, heels and like cute suits and stuff that I would wear for things like that. And now I still have them all, but I don't have many occasions to wear them. right but I don't I don't know where I would ever want to put them yeah I mean I know I know where they're going when I'm gone which is that I have a person who will receive them all oh who wears my same size and who I love very dearly and who knows that this is this is her legacy so she was gonna get all the shoes yeah um but yeah I do have a lot that I just love and some of them are at this point I kind of go in and visit and say I love you I'm sorry I won't warn you in a minute yeah you'll have your day again at some point I promise

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in summation shoes love love love sorry if anyone finds that superficial but to me they are marvels of design and architecture and engineering yeah I often see you when I see you in person and you will have great shoes on and I admire the great shoes that you have on I just do not put that kind of effort into my own shoes there's nothing better than a good shoe the other thing about a shoe is that as an investment as part of your wardrobe for the most part you can retain their use longer than like a pair of clothes right sure you gain 15 pounds your pants might not fit but your shoes are probably still gonna fit right um and so like they just don't suffer the same sort of danger of investment as other wardrobe pieces might um so great cute then they're hello kitty shoes then you gotta have your star wars shoes there's a company called pozu i was in love with for a while that was making star wars shoes um i'll tell this story and then i swear we're out um they had made this very cute boot that when the force awakens was being made their wardrobe group whether i don't know if it was a costume designer or someone else found this boot and used it and it's the boots that ray wears in that movie and subsequent films and so then they entered into a deal with lucasfilm to produce those as like ray boots and then they started making these amazing like high tops and like low tops and their whole thing the reason i really fell in love with them other than they were star shoes which I love is that they were really based like entirely in sustainable shoemaking and it was the first brand that I knew that was really doing that like yeah they would literally have tons of information on their site about how they made their bouncy soles like their insoles from coconut fiber and how like the way that they ran the Thank you.

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rubber plantations and how they made sure that, you know, no one was exploited and everything was sustainable. And I loved them for that reason. And then they had some financial problems. They got bought out by some of the employees. And I think they may have shut down because they never quite got the same lineup going. But they were amazing. And if you find any pozos on the secondary market, highly recommend because they're great. And you know, they were made with care. Okay, now I'm done. For the moment, until we talk about Samuel Plimsoll, but we won't talk about shoes that day, I promise. If this is your weekend coming up, listen, I hope you are the cutest shoes to brunch. If you do that, I hope wherever you go, you wear whatever shoes make you feel the happiest. If they're not cute, but they're so comfortable, they just make you feel those are the right shoes whatever it takes to make you have the best weekend possible if you are working i hope your shoes are so comfortable they feel like walking on clouds that hug your feet with just the right amount of bounced support uh if you are not working i still hope your feet are comfortable and that you are kind to them and you take care of your feet because they're holding you up and we need you uh we are going to be back here on monday with a brand new episode. We will also be back here tomorrow with a classic. Stuff You Missed in

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