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#3341 Inauguration Domination
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#3341 Inauguration Domination

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January 20, 2021 | 01:15:11 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke and Andrew harness all the power of the podcasting medium to bring you live, breaking coverage of today's presidential inauguration after the fact. Plus, we learn why a bunch of pigeons died during Nixon's big day and how John Adams and Thomas Jefferson saved their bromance.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:07 | Speaker 4:

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00:00:11 - 00:00:37 | Speaker 2:

Everybody, I know you can believe in yourself. If you believe in yourself, you will know how to ride a bike. If you don't, you just keep practicing. You will get the hang of it, I know it. If you keep practicing, you will get the hang of it, and then you can get better and better at it if you do it.

00:00:37 - 00:00:38 | Speaker 4:

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00:00:39 - 00:00:43 | Speaker 2:

Thumbs up, everybody, for Wack and Roll.

00:00:44 - 00:00:57 | Speaker 5:

TBTL. In this brochure, it says this tour is crunk. What does that mean? You're here to make friends. Making Friends is the name of this show.

00:00:57 - 00:01:04 | Speaker 1:

Are you out of your mind? You're putting your entire future in the hands of the man who put radio on the internet.

00:01:04 - 00:01:20 | Speaker 5:

Eh, tomato, tomato. It's tomato, tomato. You say tomato, tomato. I say tomato, tomato. The motorcycle is back. The music is back. The abs are back. The dog tags are back. Beach scenes are back. It's all. It's all here. Put my headphones on and here we go.

00:01:21 - 00:01:41 | Speaker 3:

I'm so excited. Well, here we go, everyone. Welcome to a very special Wednesday edition of TBTL. This is special. This is special. The show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

00:01:41 - 00:01:45 | Speaker 2:

I'm like seriously excited. I'm kind of shy, but mostly excited.

00:01:46 - 00:02:00 | Speaker 3:

Coming to you from the Nest Broadcast Center high in the sky above Portland, Oregon on Inauguration Day. And we have, well, we have a show in store for you.

00:02:00 - 00:02:01 | Speaker 5:

Let the fun begin.

00:02:01 - 00:02:15 | Speaker 3:

I don't know how this is going to go. We are probably the only podcast that is going to be going live to tape with wall-to-wall inauguration coverage.

00:02:15 - 00:02:17 | Speaker 5:

It's time for Operation Crazy Plan.

00:02:17 - 00:03:35 | Speaker 3:

bringing the podcast listeners of america the moment by moment updates from the inauguration that they will then apparently listen to one to seven weeks from now it's going to be fun though i promise uh we have a bunch of fascinating facts about presidential inauguration you know what i've found over the years is that the facts are your friends richard nixon's hatred of pigeons the vice president who was so drunk at his inauguration couldn't remember the names of the senators that he was swearing in and a bunch of other little dazzling deets from inaugurations past uh and of course we'll do some emails and vmails and we'll do all of that with the help of this guy the longest running cobro of the show known for his drawings of tall ships he slept completely swaddled in bunting last night and already has his inauguration day dinner picked out uh which is i might have tacos when i go home i'm not quite sure yet you know the huge he is andrew walsh and he's joining us right now from the roosevelt neighborhood of seattle washington good morning my friend good morning luke it's morning in america wait no

00:03:35 - 00:03:44 | Speaker 4:

Oh, that was a different time. Is this legal, what we're doing, by the way? Of all the things we talked about before the show, I meant to ask you, are we allowed to take live audio of this event?

00:03:45 - 00:05:06 | Speaker 3:

My first plan was to grab it off of C-SPAN because I figured how many lawyers could they really have at this point? They've got Brian Lamb doing book talk, and I just figured that's the most public domain. I mean, aren't we sort of helping pay for C-SPAN? With our cable fees? Or something And then of course It was like 37,000 hoops That I had to jump through In order to get C-SPAN playing By way of my cable package So I just went over to our friends at MSNBC Where they are currently Playing Jennifer Lopez's Performance of This Land is Your Land I have to say, when I heard that Jennifer Lopez was performing, it didn't even occur to me she was doing a patriotic song. You just assumed it was going to be like a Super Bowl halftime show. I thought, like, Jenny from the block. I am not kidding you, Andrew. I am so relieved. And of course, obviously, they're going to have Jennifer Lopez. Do like a song about America. But when I saw it on the list, I just thought, I guess we're going to hear my love don't cost a thing.

00:05:07 - 00:05:27 | Speaker 2:

I thought she was going to be doing it with Garth Brooks. I thought it was going to be like, you know, halfway through the halftime performance. He was going to come exploding out of some sort of, you know, some sort of like friends in low places. He'd be playing his hot country with his acoustic guitar on top of some sort of a structure on stage that had fireworks. But no, I think we're going to keep it a little bit more respectful.

00:05:27 - 00:06:20 | Speaker 3:

I mean, of course, like I'm embarrassed that that that my brain didn't just do that sort of calculation all on its own, that like, of course, every performance is going to be related to this country. And I will just say I was thinking about this this morning, Andrew, and, you know, I'll offer all of the caveats that you and I often do the asterisks about the ways in which America has been a really less than ideal place for for for many of the people who live here. that being said this is a pretty cool country at least it has a lot of potential when it's not being run by sociopaths and like i got up this morning and i was just listening to like the i don't know if it's the marine band or whoever it was like playing patriotic music in the background as people are coming in and i just was like got really emotional like i was like as i wrote on twitter this was like christmas morning for people who like america being a democracy

00:06:20 - 00:07:16 | Speaker 2:

I mean I shot out of bed at like 6 a.m. I was ready may everybody who's ever had to take a new job have somebody before them that lowered the bar so much I mean this is such a blessing to anybody to have your predecessor in a role just be so terrible that I mean and I listen I don't have any beef against Joe Biden I'm I'm excited about this administration too I'm not trying to tamp that down but it is amazing that we're like we didn't do this for obama who i think like as a as a um as an elected official and as an administration i was probably way more excited about like just you know looking forward we're almost marking the you know we're really marking the end not again not and it's an exciting administration you know in having vice president harris there is she vice president yet by the way what's going on no we're as uh you know as things

00:07:16 - 00:07:31 | Speaker 3:

are timing out here on the west coast i believe we're about 12 minutes away we got baby from from kamala harris and joe biden being in their official positions i'm with you andrew you know what i decided this morning is this is officially the peaceful transition of power from barack

00:07:31 - 00:07:38 | Speaker 2:

obama to joe biden right that's how i see it right because barack and michelle are there

00:07:38 - 00:07:55 | Speaker 3:

and Donnie and Melania aren't. And so I just choose to, you know, I'm usually not a fan of Erasure, the band I'm good with. The activity of doing it to people I'm not. I'm good with erasing them from, let's just call this the Obama to Biden transition, okay?

00:07:55 - 00:08:05 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's fine with me. Let's just rewrite that history. Let's all wake up from a really, really bad nightmare. We did have a Klobuchar sighting there, it looked like a moment ago.

00:08:05 - 00:08:24 | Speaker 3:

Well, she's sort of emceeing this. She's kind of the Ryan Seacrest of this whole thing, which is a pretty big honor. It looks now, again, I want to apologize in advance both to you, Andrew, and the listeners. I am hyped. Wait, Biden's actually taking the oath.

00:08:25 - 00:08:53 | Speaker 1:

I, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., do solemnly swear. That I will faithfully execute. That I will faithfully execute. The office of President of the United States. Office of President of the United States. And will, to the best of my ability, will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend, preserve, protect, and defend, the Constitution of the United States. The Constitution of the United States. So help you God. So help me God. Congratulations, Mr. President.

00:08:55 - 00:09:06 | Speaker 3:

I've written tweets longer than that. Can I ask you a technical question?

00:09:10 - 00:09:16 | Speaker 2:

Is this the moment, Luke, or do we still wait for 10 minutes when the clock officially strikes noon East Coast?

00:09:16 - 00:10:07 | Speaker 3:

This is, I mean, this is where I'm a bit confused, maybe in our getting levels checked before we started recording. Did they swear Kamala Harris in? I would have thought it would go in that order. They must have. That's the order it goes in. Well, I apologize. I was, to your point, low-key more excited about Kamala Harris being sweated. Right. But, no, I guess we must have been still trying to set up our levels at that point. Yeah, so I think the idea is he becomes president, and Kamala Harris becomes vice president, I was told by the Internet at exactly noon East Coast, but maybe it's like They just want to make sure it's all in place. Or also somebody was just like, yo, can we shave 10 minutes off of Trump's thing?

00:10:09 - 00:10:10 | Speaker 2:

He's not going to notice.

00:10:11 - 00:10:15 | Speaker 3:

He's in Mar-a-Lago right now watching Fox News and pouting.

00:10:15 - 00:10:20 | Speaker 2:

He's already in Florida fighting with the Homeowners Association about whether or not that can be a full-time residency.

00:10:20 - 00:10:23 | Speaker 3:

Well, of course, because that was expressly banned in 1993.

00:10:23 - 00:10:32 | Speaker 2:

So the hits just keep coming. Can you imagine just going from the White House to just arguing with the people in your HOA? Like, oh, God, what a transition that must be.

00:10:32 - 00:11:22 | Speaker 3:

I was starting by apologizing for the fact that I'm probably super amped right now. Part of it is because I'm just very excited about the direction this country will be going in from the perspective of national leadership. And part of it is because, Andrew, I thought that long ago, the part of my brain that knew how to or had been associated with covering major political stories live on the radio, like, you know, back in my NPR days, I assumed that that part of my brain had withered and atrophied. But no, it reared up this morning like so hardcore. I've got printouts after printouts. I made a schedule where I adjusted the time for the West Coast. It's like I've got three different feeds going in case MSNBC goes out I've got closed captioning going on the CBS feed I mean

00:11:22 - 00:11:27 | Speaker 2:

Do you have a bunch of analog clocks on the wall that are telling you like the time in Tokyo for some reason?

00:11:27 - 00:11:58 | Speaker 3:

Yes for absolutely no reason but I just want to be on my game Like I don't know where this is coming from And also the irony is that this is not going to be This is not being broadcast live No one's even hearing us this will be, for the people who listen to it, a rerun of a thing they already know about. Yeah. But I just, I don't know. I just woke up on fire this morning. Joe Biden is about to, I guess, make his inaugural address. Should we dip into this for a minute?

00:11:59 - 00:12:03 | Speaker 2:

Let's do that. That was my all things considered voice. Hey, that was good. Thank you.

00:12:05 - 00:12:10 | Speaker 1:

Chief Justice Roberts, Vice President Harris.

00:12:13 - 00:12:15 | Speaker 3:

I'm going to take that to mean that they swore in Kamala Harris.

00:12:15 - 00:12:17 | Speaker 2:

Everything's going smoothly, yes.

00:12:18 - 00:13:59 | Speaker 1:

Vice President Pence, my distinguished guest, my fellow Americans, this is America's day. This is democracy's day. A day of history and hope, of renewal and resolve. Through a crucible for the ages, America has been tested anew. and America has risen to the challenge. Today, we celebrate the triumph not of a candidate, but of a cause, the cause of democracy. The people, the will of the people has been heard and the will of the people has been heeded. We've learned again that democracy is precious. Democracy is fragile. And at this hour, my friends, democracy has prevailed. So now, on this hallowed ground where just a few days ago, violence sought to shake the capital's very foundation. We come together as one nation, under God, indivisible, to carry out the peaceful transfer of power as we have for more than two centuries as we look ahead in our uniquely american way restless bold optimistic and set our sights on the nation we know we can be and we must be i thank my predecessors of both parties for their presence here today i thank them from the bottom

00:13:59 - 00:14:41 | Speaker 3:

my heart and i know i'm kind of bummed because it would appear that hillary clinton who i'm a big fan of hillary clinton has moved into that phase where wearing purple is a personality trait i did not get the visual on that i mean i'm this is not a statement about you know her as a woman uh per se or her you know body or her fashion other than to say there is an age at which some women tend to lean very hard into the all purple and it would appear that hillary rodham clinton has arrived at that point in her life in her journey but the american story depends not on

00:14:41 - 00:16:07 | Speaker 1:

any one of us not on some of us but on all of us on we the people who seek a more perfect union this is a great nation we are good people and over the centuries through storm and strife In peace and in war, we've come so far, but we still have far to go. We'll press forward with speed and urgency, for we have much to do in this winter of peril and significant possibilities. Much to repair, much to restore, much to heal, much to build, and much to gain. Few people in our nation's history have been more challenged or found a time more challenging or difficult than the time we're in now. Once in a century virus that silently stalks the country has taken as many lives in one year as America lost in all of World War II. Millions of jobs have been lost. Hundreds of thousands of businesses closed. A cry for racial justice some 400 years in the making moves us. The dream of justice for all will be deferred no longer.

00:16:10 - 00:16:15 | Speaker 3:

As I just wrote on Twitter, Andrew, because I'm multitasking, I think there's still more people here than the Trump inaugural.

00:16:16 - 00:16:24 | Speaker 4:

Possibly. What's going on on Twitter, by the way? I see that Dan Savage is already calling on Vice President Harris to invoke the 25th Amendment.

00:16:25 - 00:16:31 | Speaker 2:

Seems a little early for that, Dan-o, but interesting note.

00:16:34 - 00:16:46 | Speaker 3:

That's a pretty good spoof. We say that with peace and love to the current president, Andrew. I think so. Oh, now, I'm still watching.

00:16:46 - 00:16:55 | Speaker 4:

I'm watching the clock. I mean, he took the oath, so you don't have to wait for the clock to strike. I mean, the oath is what marks it. Either way, we've got three minutes.

00:16:56 - 00:17:08 | Speaker 3:

I am slightly confused, but also, you know what? This schedule that I printed out, Andrew, the best one I could find was from some website that also featured, like, three of those, like, ZergNet ads woven into the schedule.

00:17:08 - 00:17:10 | Speaker 2:

Are you on Inauguration for Dummies?

00:17:10 - 00:17:12 | Speaker 3:

You won't believe what happened to this Olsen twin.

00:17:12 - 00:17:13 | Unknown:

What?

00:17:13 - 00:17:25 | Speaker 3:

which gilligan's island cast member got real fat and then it's like maybe i shouldn't trust the uh the timing of this particular website but yeah no i think this guy is the president

00:17:25 - 00:18:32 | Speaker 4:

right now all right well that that's good are you i'm gonna say something feels good feels real good i don't know if this is really a place we want to take the conversation but just to share something that has been kind of rattling around in my brain today um that isn't necessarily that lighthearted i guess but you know i kept asking like well is it noon yet or when does it when does the power shift officially take place i think it makes sense it was probably right as he took the oath that makes the most sense but um it's like what if what is the worst case scenario that we're kind of thinking like what could trump do at the last minute you know you always think of the nuclear codes are invoked right and when he was elected nuclear codes because that's the That's where our imagination goes as the worst case scenario. Right. And I was thinking of all of the terrible stuff, predictable and not so predictable, that has happened in the past four years. I am surprised that we are not engaged in a foreign war started by this administration. Like, I also didn't expect a civil war to start, literally a civil war to start. But, you know, like the fact that we are not like engaged with Iran right now is kind of remarkable.

00:18:33 - 00:19:58 | Speaker 3:

We'll take that as a silver lining. Our buddy Chris Hayes on his television show last night did, I thought, a really nice, his open, I believe they call it the A Block. Although I texted him about it and I called it the A Block trying to show off with my inside knowledge. But then I spent the rest of the night thinking, is that even what it's called? Anyway, I thought that the open of his show was really well done. It was sort of a compressed history of the last four years. and what what i found particularly nice about it was the way that they pointed out not only all of the terrible things that the trump administration tried to do but all the amazing ways that americans showed up when you're talking the airports exactly and and you know like the and to a large degree the courts you know um stacked as they may be with republicans at this point not just supreme court But at various levels, it was sort of this. It was actually very it made me feel really hopeful for this country because it was like, yeah, somehow a complete sociopath with absolutely zero moral compass got into the most powerful job in this country. And more or less, the people of this country, at least the people who care about, you know, equality and about this country living up to whatever its ideals were, were able to thwart him in a lot of those cases. And that's pretty incredible.

00:20:00 - 00:20:15 | Speaker 2:

I felt emotional last night watching just these pics of people out protesting, people in the Black Lives Matter movement, people, like you said, at the airports. It was nice to remember that this country did repel a lot of the BS that that guy tried to do.

00:20:16 - 00:20:41 | Speaker 1:

Yes, and surprisingly so. And, you know, I think I saw the show last night, too, and I don't know if it was – I feel like it was Alex Wagner. I guess everybody was just talking about this. I just focus on Alex Wagner because I have a bit of a TV crush on her. Which, by the way, do you know my – and I guess I assume Chris will hear this unless he's skipping this episode because he already – He needs to find out what happened with the inauguration. I think a lot of people might skip this one. Hey, check it off your bingo card. Yeah.

00:20:41 - 00:20:47 | Speaker 2:

If we do 33 Chris Hayes mentions, do you then get to mark 33 spots on your bingo card?

00:20:47 - 00:22:03 | Speaker 1:

I almost texted him last night because I have a question that I've been wanting to ask Chris. I don't think I've brought it up on the show before. I'm too embarrassed to bring it up, but here I am doing it anyway. So I like Alex Wagner. She used to have whatever her show, her midday show on NBC was or maybe mid morning show. It coincided with a time that you and I were in the Cairo studio doing our show a lot. And so I just always remember like her head hanging over us as we're doing the show. It marks a very her time on MSNBC marks a very specific kind of time in my career for whatever that's worth. I'm going to say about five years ago, a young, fresh-faced Chris Hayes called our voicemail line, our TBTL voicemail line, and he was drunk dialing us. He was straight up drunk dialing us. He admitted it. He said, I'm here with my friend, Alex, and I'm trying to convince her to listen to the show. I'm pretty sure he said her. I'm not 100% on that. And I kind of heard a voice in the background. And I've always wondered, were we drunk dialed with Alex Wagner in the room? Is that who that Alex is? I don't know that Chris would even remember that moment. But every time I see her, I'm always like, were you in that bar? Were you the other voice on the answering machine?

00:22:05 - 00:22:16 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. We're like, were we? I don't know how many Kevin Bacons that is away from us being friends with Alex Wagner. that a phone may have been thrust in her general direction one time on a lost Saturday night.

00:22:16 - 00:22:55 | Speaker 1:

But we'll take it. Save that voicemail. But I evoked her name, though. Oh, you know, I think it was her and everybody just saying, though, like, let's not forget how close all of these calls were and how close we were to re-electing. We were, we the country were, to re-electing Trump. And, I mean, it's just so chilling to think about and does without being corny and saying all the things that I know you're supposed to say today. It's just a reminder, and we need to keep that in our head when we think about where we are as a country and the decisions and the elections that are going to be coming up again before we know it.

00:22:55 - 00:25:38 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, even though this is an inherently political topic, the inauguration, and we're leaning into it as it were today, I was also hoping for myself it wouldn't just sort of devolve into me just like unloading all of my emotional baggage related to you know the last four years or whatever but that being said let me do that for a minute which is to totally agree with you Andrew like it is insane to me that if not for a pandemic that guy would probably still be president like and I this was also said on Chris's show last night and I have been thinking this for a while this probably sounds hyperbolic but i just don't know if our democracy would have survived another four years like our democracy as we know it because you know every hour that guy was in office uh structurally more things they were trying to push to change more things to you know basically sort of preserve minority rule i mean uh he lost by seven million votes and if he would have gotten 40 000 votes in a few other in a few of the places he didn't he would still be president and this is after this just i mean the i don't even you want to use the word handling of a pandemic because to say handle it would would indicate that you did anything at all to try to save lives and and in fact the administration actively worked to put more people in danger through its policies so yeah it's it's really it's it's really unnerving to think how close this came to being the re-election or i should say the re-inaugural re-inauguration of trump and i don't i mean you know 2016 in our world famously like within the world of tbtl that was a tough it was a tough day for us the morning after the election and um i know that uh a lot of listeners were feeling the way we were feeling uh i don't know what we would be talking about right now andrew i mean i guess at this point it would would be a fait accompli we would have worked through some of the stages of grief because we would have known that he had been reelected so this wouldn't be coming as a surprise so maybe what i'm really thinking about would be the morning after this most recent general election right but like we were pretty broken in 2016 and were we were this country or enough people in this country to have affirmed that kind of behavior from that kind of person man i don't know like I don't I'm just really glad that we didn't have to go through that we didn't have to figure out what that was going to be like because it would have been really really really depressing yeah

00:25:38 - 00:26:01 | Speaker 1:

I have a response to that I feel like it may end up being a little bit rambly how about this would you be interested in in taking a break or do we need to um see the the end of uh Biden's speech here before we do that because I didn't want to go on a huge ramble and then have you trying to take a break in the middle of it I think we get the gist of it I think we've moved Blah, blah, democracy, blah, blah. Yeah, right. Show title. Right.

00:26:04 - 00:26:26 | Speaker 2:

Oh, it feels good to laugh. See, we can make jokes about Joe Biden and say blah, blah, democracy, because it doesn't feel like at any moment stormtroopers might be rounding people up. Yeah. So, yeah, let's do that. Let's take a quick break, and then we will come back, and I want to hear where your ramble takes us, Andrew. Maybe.

00:26:26 - 00:26:37 | Speaker 1:

We also don't have to lean into that ramble. It might be more interesting to hear some of these inauguration facts that you've rounded up. In fact, this break might have really saved the show.

00:26:37 - 00:26:55 | Speaker 2:

We will be hearing these inauguration facts one way or the other, my friend. All right. Back with more TBTL in just a minute. Okay. We 100% don't have the rights to this one. Allowed to use this. This is not even the same network. What are we doing?

00:26:56 - 00:27:00 | Speaker 1:

Why do we hate our jobs this much that we're just dying to get in trouble?

00:27:01 - 00:27:05 | Speaker 2:

Getting ready for a strongly worded letter from Nina Totenberg.

00:27:06 - 00:27:17 | Speaker 1:

Oh, my gosh. Is she also NPR's lawyer? That never even occurred to me, but of course she is. She must handle all of the legal responsibilities. And then she records.

00:27:18 - 00:27:35 | Speaker 2:

She both conducts all the depositions, and then she records her voiceover version of all of them. Luke Burbank. We didn't know we weren't allowed to use the NPR election music. Andrew Walsh, we're so sorry. NPR lawyers, it doesn't matter. You're still in violation of our trademark. Luke Burbank, cry softly.

00:27:38 - 00:27:41 | Speaker 1:

Lily Kim, I'll let you guys see yourself out.

00:27:42 - 00:27:50 | Speaker 2:

Your key cards no longer work. And also, hand over the nuclear codes, by which I mean your CODI login.

00:27:51 - 00:27:54 | Speaker 1:

I will never give up my CODI login.

00:27:54 - 00:27:58 | Speaker 2:

Hand over the nuclear codeys? Am I allowed to say this?

00:27:58 - 00:28:00 | Speaker 1:

Am I allowed to talk about...

00:28:00 - 00:28:04 | Speaker 2:

I mean, we've already played a variety of audio that we don't have the right to do.

00:28:04 - 00:28:16 | Speaker 1:

No, what I was going to say, though, is, I mean, I'm about to go into some password talk here where, in all seriousness, I don't want to give away too much information about my password. But, you know, like kind of my...

00:28:16 - 00:28:19 | Speaker 2:

I thought you meant the game show from the 80s.

00:28:19 - 00:28:27 | Speaker 1:

Oh, no. But I do love passwords. So you say, let's do an imitation. But you need a ticking clock in the background, right? And then you would say.

00:28:28 - 00:28:35 | Speaker 2:

I can't do that for you because I have. Oh, I can't actually. I just have to turn down. Okay, here. I just have to turn down our president.

00:28:35 - 00:28:44 | Speaker 1:

Here, we're going to do a thing of password. I have a, I have, do they give you categories? I have a thing in my head, okay? And I need you to guess what it is. Okay, ready?

00:28:44 - 00:28:44 | Speaker 2:

Okay.

00:28:45 - 00:29:15 | Speaker 1:

Do you have a clock? Because I have clocks by Coldplay. Is that okay? Sorry. Let me get here. I might have that's weird that I don't have a ticking clock oh is that all distorted I don't like this what's going on with this version I don't know why alright we're playing password what about just going online must have one right wait no this is what we're using oh we're using that okay

00:29:15 - 00:29:27 | Speaker 2:

we want to leave no piece of audio that we don't have the right to unplayed and if we have if we can have a extremely crushed version from probably 19 or probably

00:29:27 - 00:29:43 | Speaker 1:

2003 that's where we're going can i add it okay here we go password okay this is a thing that's the worst cloud that's why i'm so distracted this is for a

00:29:43 - 00:29:48 | Speaker 2:

A version of Password being played, you know, at a retirement home.

00:29:48 - 00:29:52 | Speaker 1:

Okay, why do I not have this in my sound effects?

00:29:52 - 00:30:00 | Speaker 2:

And why will you refuse to accept the outcome of this election, which is we have decided the people have spoken. This is going to happen over class.

00:30:00 - 00:30:01 | Speaker 3:

Ox by Coldplay.

00:30:02 - 00:30:06 | Speaker 1:

Nope, this isn't working either. Okay, we'll go with... Okay, an object. Brass.

00:30:07 - 00:30:15 | Speaker 3:

Brass. An object. Brass. A monkey. That funky monkey. Instrument. Funky little monkey. Funky... I'm sorry. What? I don't know how to play this.

00:30:15 - 00:30:28 | Speaker 2:

You just... That's how every... That's how every round of password ends. It just turns into B52. Everybody doing their Fred Schneider invitation. Yep. Why did I buy this funky little purchase?

00:30:29 - 00:30:32 | Speaker 3:

Okay, object, it's brass. Object, it's brass. It's a bell. Instrument.

00:30:33 - 00:30:37 | Speaker 1:

I think you take one guess, and then I can give you another clue. I think that's how I've done.

00:30:37 - 00:30:39 | Speaker 3:

Okay, it's a brass instrument. It's a trumpet.

00:30:40 - 00:30:40 | Speaker 1:

Slider.

00:30:41 - 00:30:43 | Speaker 3:

A trombone. There we go.

00:30:45 - 00:30:50 | Speaker 2:

That was worse than Inauguration coverage. Holy shit.

00:30:51 - 00:30:58 | Speaker 3:

All right, what was the ramble you wanted to go on before we went to the break and before we played that round of Password?

00:30:58 - 00:33:46 | Speaker 1:

We were having fun. I don't know if I want to go back to Serious Town, but I think that a huge thing for me, and I can't remember if I've said this on the show, you and I, you know, had a long off air talk after one of our shows one day where we really, I don't know, just shared our feelings about everything that had happened at the Capitol with the insurrection when we were both on break from recording new shows. And, you know, we've hinted at that a little bit at that topic in the days past, but we never really did the really emotional conversation on the show that we would have about that had we been recording new shows at the time. And so I don't remember what I've expressed here and what I haven't. But a huge thing for me, as somebody who was not directly affected by a lot of the terrible policies and a lot of the terrible things that happened under the administration, you know, because of my place and places of privilege, the thing that probably emotionally hurt me the most was what a lot of people felt, which was this feeling of being gaslit. of the sense that a lot of people thought that it was normal what was going on people that we know people that we love and people who still thought it was just politics right the fact that there's this normalizing of what happened and and this feeling that a bunch of people um who surround us just don't see it in the way that we see it there was something about the just the insurrection and the bald-facedness of what happened that it sort of drew a line for me and at least it said look this is it this is what we've been talking about we're not crazy like this is extreme this has been extremism from the get-go there are not good people on both sides don't write that off as just being a president not wanting to take a side like that was a call to the proud boys like this has been real from the beginning and finally as disgusting and disgraceful and scary and murderous as that insurrection was on the Capitol, in a certain way, it just exposed their ass and it just said, look, this is it. You can't hide behind respectability anymore. Even McConnell gets that. And so that was something. And I was thinking all of this comes back to once again, Chris's show yesterday, which, sorry, is my only point of reference for a lot of things. But he was also talking about how Joe Biden had the memorial to the 400,000 people who've died of covid. Right. I mean, just. And I'm not somebody in my life who goes in for anything that is kind of ceremonial, even even inaugurations, frankly, I'm not somebody who really like leans into that kind of stuff and maybe wouldn't fully understand the importance of it.

00:33:46 - 00:34:44 | Speaker 1:

But on Chris's show yesterday, he was talking to a woman who lost five members of her family to the virus and is now, you know, an activist and trying to work for change in that realm. And she used the term gaslighting a couple of times and saying that, like, having the president-elect at the time hold a very solemn vigil in a very important place to leave silence, something I'm not doing very well right now, to remember those who passed, it is important because part of this has been this gaslighting, having a president saying it's not so bad and it's not real and calling it the China virus. Like all of this stuff really does have effects. And that's one thing that I think I've learned in the past, maybe even last week or so, is sometimes these ceremonies that might not seem that important actually are when you're talking about like just maintaining a union. You know, I think I understand that a little bit more.

00:34:44 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think I agree to that. It's a really bitter. I don't know if there's any sweet in it. It's a perplexing feeling to know that as troubling as that insurrection was and as awful as it was for the Capitol.

00:35:00 - 00:37:12 | Speaker 1:

uh who died and then the other you know capital police person who who took their own life um that was probably i it was very effective in in showing just how as you said just how aberrant and how extreme this ideology is and had it not happened i don't think i don't think trump is slinking off the way he's slinking off and i think there the the there's a you know a sort of door is still cracked open for him to come back into politics in a meaningful way, not just in a, like, you know, rage tweeting from Mar-a-Lago about the HOA, the fact that they won't let him, you know, put up a fence where he wants to or something. I would love, by the way, if everything for Trump just becomes just super angry tweets about a guy named, like, Maury Johnson, who's his neighbor in Mar-a-Lago, who's just being a total hard ass and will not let me put my Christmas lights up Until December 1st But he flies his Jags flag Even though it's against the rule Exactly that is an obvious violation Of Mar-a-Lago Code so it's like But I'm with you It's so It's really kind of a bummer To know that that's what it took But I guess on some level I am relieved That I think even in this Moment I think history is already And I'm not just talking about like us the sort of progressives of the world. But I think I think people are generally understanding many more people than there are who are still backing Trump. I mean, I know that that some of the some of the research and polling is is is not encouraging about how many people in the Republican Party still support him. But I just think, broadly speaking, people in this country and the world are realizing that this guy was bad news. And I think he is I don't think he is going to be welcome back in public life in any meaningful way um and so now you know what this explains a lot i think we have a young poet stepping up this would be i believe uh amanda gorman let's take a listen to her if this is all right with you mr president dr biden madam

00:37:12 - 00:39:59 | Speaker 2:

vice president mr emhoff americans and the world one day comes we ask ourselves where can we find light in this never-ending shade the loss we carry a sea we must wade we've braved the belly of the beast we've learned that quiet isn't always peace in the norms and notions of what just is isn't always just this and yet the dawn is ours before we knew it somehow we do it somehow we've weathered and witnessed a nation that isn't broken but simply unfinished we the successors of a country and a time where a skinny black girl descended from slaves and raised by a single mother can dream of becoming president only to find herself reciting for one. And yes, we are far from polished, far from pastime, but that doesn't mean we are striving to form a union that is perfect. We are striving to forge our union with purpose, to compose a country committed to all cultures, colors, characters, and conditions of man. And so we lift our gazes not to what stands between us, but what stands before us. We close the divide because we know to put our future first, we must first put our differences aside. We lay down our arms so we can reach out our arms to one another. We seek harm to none and harmony for all. Let the globe, if nothing else, say this is true. that even as we grieved we grew that even as we hurt we hoped that even as we tired we tried that we'll forever be tied together victorious not because we will never again know defeat but because we will never again sow division scripture tells us to envision that everyone shall sit under their own vine and fig tree and no one shall make them afraid if we're to live up to our own time then victory won't lie in the blade but in all the bridges we've made that is the promised glade the hill we climb if only we dare it because being american is more than a pride we inherit. It's the past we step into.

00:40:00 - 00:42:38 | Speaker 1:

and how we repair it we've seen a forest that would shatter our nation rather than share it would destroy our country if it meant delaying democracy and this effort very nearly succeeded but while democracy can be periodically delayed it can never be permanently defeated in this truth in this faith we trust for while we have our eyes on the future history has its eyes on us this is the era of just redemption we feared it at its inception we did not feel prepared to be the heirs of such a terrifying hour but within it we found the power to author a new chapter to offer hope and laughter to ourselves so while once we asked how could we possibly prevail over catastrophe now we assert how could catastrophe possibly prevail over us we will not march back to what was but move to what shall be a country that is bruised but whole benevolent but bold fierce and free we will not be turned around or interrupted by intimidation because we know our inaction and inertia will be the inheritance of the next generation our blenders become their burdens but one thing is certain if we merge mercy with might into might with right then love Love becomes our legacy and change, our children's birthright. So let us leave behind a country better than one we were left with every breath from my bronze-pounded chest. We will raise this wounded world into a wondrous one. We will rise from the gold-limbed hills of the West. We will rise from the windswept northeast where our forefathers first realized revolution. We will rise from the lake-rimmed cities of the Midwestern states. We will rise from the sun-baked south. We will rebuild, reconcile, and recover. In every known nook of our nation, in every corner called our country, our people diverse and beautiful will emerge battered and beautiful. When day comes, we step out of the shade of flame and unafraid. The new dawn balloons as we free it. for there was always light if only we're brave enough to see it if only we're brave enough to be it.

00:42:42 - 00:42:57 | Speaker 2:

Amanda Gorman, who I noticed while she was delivering that speech, which by the way, that was incredible and also like, I can't believe that any human being, let alone a 22-year-old person, can stand on that stage and deliver.

00:42:57 - 00:42:59 | Speaker 3:

And not just shake like a leaf

00:42:59 - 00:44:22 | Speaker 2:

And not just, I mean, to just actually nail it, like from just a performative standpoint, putting aside that it's a really lovely, important thought. It reminds me, though, Andrew, of one of the fun facts about the inaugural that I wanted to tell you about, which was that the first inaugural poem was actually delivered by Robert Frost at the behest of John F. Kennedy. Yeah. Yeah. Did you know the story on this? That he this was the 1961 inauguration and Kennedy wanted Robert Frost to recite his poem, The Gift Outright. But Frost wanted to kind of jazz things up by writing a new poem. So he wrote a poem called Dedication for the event. But Robert Frost was 87 years old when he did this and his eyesight was not super great. And so the sun was so bright on this particular morning that he couldn't actually read the poem that he had written for the event. And so at age 87, he just recited the gift outright from memory. And though he was reportedly embarrassed by the gaffe, the Washington Post later wrote that Frost, quote, stole the hearts of the inaugural crowd. Wow. Wow.

00:44:22 - 00:44:59 | Speaker 3:

You know, for some reason, I remember as you were starting to say that he couldn't read it, I thought I was like, wait, he didn't just like freestyle that. Right. Like that would have been amazing if he had just like decided to be like, all right, I can't read this. Somebody give me a beat and I'll just make something up here on the spot. That would be that would be amazing. By the way, I'm sorry I talked over you when I was like you started to say something. It's like that's one thing in history that I know that I'd forgotten about that. But I did know that he was the first and it was JFK, which reminds me of something nonpresidential. I would love to bring up with you right now if you'll allow it, because something happened between you and I off air yesterday that I just.

00:45:00 - 00:46:26 | Speaker 2:

blew my just blew my gd mind luke um this was the telephone call that you and i had uh late yesterday afternoon i wouldn't mind hearing your perspective on this as well for some for something i was doing for the other podcast after these messages i was racking my brain for a couple of days trying to think of a specific northwest focused commercial that was in heavy rotation during football games about, I'm going to say three years ago. And it fit into a theme that Vives and I were doing on the show last night. And I knew exactly, I was typing in every search word. I could remember two commercials from the same series. And I thought it was for a credit union, maybe a bank. I got so far as looking up a list of every credit union that's accredited in Washington state. So I could Google them to see if any of them would turn up the commercial I was looking for, I finally thought, you know what, I'm going to give Luke a quick call on this. And just because you watch a lot of the same football I do, I know that you pay attention to commercials. I call you up. I start describing the commercial to you in much less time than I just described it right here. I started to say a few words. You interrupted me and said, oh, Columbia Bank, that's the Blue Couch commercials. How did you know that so quickly? Were you following do you just have a beautiful mind i know you do or were was there something else about that series of commercials was it did you try out for it or something i could not believe it

00:46:26 - 00:46:59 | Speaker 1:

every time i come over to your house to do the show i place one microphone somewhere in a hidden location so at this point i'm able to listen to every single conversation that you and genevieve have in fact i'm able to think i'm able to listen to your thoughts oh wow as you think them and so So I had – while I heard you muttering under your breath the different search terms, I then did my own series of Googles and found the answer. But it's a clever trick. It really is. Yeah. What am I thinking right now? When it works, it really works.

00:47:00 - 00:47:14 | Speaker 2:

No, I was – I don't know if that's an interesting story to the listeners. My apologies for breaking the flow. But I was just astounded. You, like, you literally – I was just ramping up to describe it. And you, like, cut me off, not in a rude way, and you said Blue Couch, Columbia, the bank.

00:47:14 - 00:47:41 | Speaker 1:

Not to turn this into a mutual appreciation society, but also that has to do with you described it in a way that told – like it wasn't like you just called up and you said, hey, I'm thinking of a commercial, and I said, oh, the blue couch thing. You described it as being for a financial institution, being local, I think somebody who was like a dancer or in the circus. You gave me all of the relevant information that made my brain remember that that was a series of acts. Okay, so you didn't have a connection to it.

00:47:41 - 00:47:57 | Speaker 2:

Because I thought maybe it would be like, oh, a buddy, because then, you know, we didn't linger on the phone. So I was, you know, you have a lot of colleagues. You work with people who are in that industry, especially if it's locally produced and if it's a local institution. So I wasn't sure if it was like, oh, yeah, my buddy produced that or something along those lines.

00:47:58 - 00:48:06 | Speaker 1:

No, I just they were just in heavy rotation. You know what it was? They were in heavy rotation during baseball season back when during seasons when the Mariners were somewhat competitive.

00:48:07 - 00:48:09 | Speaker 2:

Oh, that's right. It was probably during baseball season, not football.

00:48:09 - 00:50:31 | Speaker 1:

So that really, you know, will worm your way into its brain. Hey, another inaugural fun fact. Richard Nixon. And this, I mean, this just feels very on brand for Richard Nixon based on what we know about him. And also just his Trumpian ways. Although I did hear a congresswoman today on MSNBC this morning who I didn't actually catch who it might have been. but she i believe said she was an intern uh in washington dc when richard nixon left office right like famously when he goes and gets on the helicopter and that she watched that helicopter circle the capitol and then leave and uh and she said that she watched trump's helicopter circle the capitol and leave today and she felt much more relieved seeing trump leave than she did seeing nixon leave yeah which is an interesting perspective from somebody who was there for both events but anyway nixon was very worried this is in 1973 that pigeons would be somehow either annoying the people lined up for his inaugural parade or would be pooping or would somehow be a distraction so he basically made whatever governmental agency is in charge of this stuff treat all of the tree branches along the parade route with something called roost no more, which was supposed to make the Simpsons joke. It's a forget me roost. It was supposed to make the birds. This is how roost no more was supposed to work. It was supposed to make the birds feet itch so bad that they would not want to land on these branches. This cost $13,000. This is another reason why it feels Trumpian to me. It's like, let's blow $13,000, which is obviously a lot more back in 1970, whatever that was. But it was supposed to keep these pigeons away. The problem was the pigeons not only sat on the branches, they actually ate the roost no more, which killed them. So instead of having maybe too many pigeons along the parade route, instead, there were thousands of dead and dying pigeons everywhere along the parade route who had eaten the roost no more.

00:50:31 - 00:51:40 | Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, I guess they will roost no more. I mean, there's a chance that they just read. There's a chance that worked exactly how it was supposed to, and they just didn't read the instructions. That is some grim material there. Now, I will ask, so these weren't, you know, I read the show sheet incorrectly, or maybe even when I was listening to you do the intro at the beginning of the show. For some reason, I kept picturing doves. I thought this story was going to be something like they decided to bring in a bunch of doves, then didn't want the doves. And so he, like in the movie Willard, took the doves out to a lake in a crate. I don't have to get into the darkness of that scenario. Or Joe Bluth walking into a sliding door. What's your return policy on doves? Right. But so in normal years, these pigeons, like there wasn't some special influx of pigeons. This is just the normal pigeon population, because at first I was thinking, well, I could see if you have an inordinate amount of birds, they will create an inordinate amount of bird poop. And so that could be a problem. But if this is something that, you know, every other administration had dealt with and it wasn't an issue, then I don't know what their problem was.

00:51:40 - 00:52:19 | Speaker 1:

It was just probably the megalomania and obsessive ruminations of one Richard Milhouse Nixon, right? Because I've been to an inauguration parade. I don't know if I was covering it or just hanging out. I was probably doing something job-related. It was the second election of George W. Bush. And I can tell you this, being along the parade route, there was zero pigeon-related issues. I don't think it's a big deal. I just think that, you know, Nixon's brain was probably broken, and he started fixating on this idea that the pigeons were going to ruin it for him.

00:52:19 - 00:52:26 | Speaker 2:

What do you think is a better presidential middle name, Milhouse or Robinette?

00:52:27 - 00:52:37 | Speaker 1:

Well, Milhouse is now, I mean, the thing is, the Simpsons have now hijacked Milhouse away from Richard Nixon in my mind and over to Milhouse Van Houten.

00:52:37 - 00:52:39 | Speaker 2:

Which makes me like it more, I think.

00:52:39 - 00:53:15 | Speaker 1:

That has a halo effect on me. Yeah. Robinette's. Robinette's pretty great, though. Yeah. I mean, God, I hope we don't have too many listeners named Millhouse, because I don't want to hurt their feelings. But there's something about Millhouse that sounds like mildew to me. Like, Robinette sounds like a fresh spring day. Like, you're hearing a little Pierre Gint playing in the background. Millhouse is a little more, I don't know. I'm going Robinette. And not just because of Richard Nixon's ultimate ignominity as a president who had to leave office.

00:53:15 - 00:53:59 | Speaker 2:

I'll take Milhouse just to keep things even. By the way, I'm now looking at a website. Thank you, Reader's Digest, for presenting me with this article that lists the middle name of every U.S. president. It's actually got too much information. I wish it was a shorter list, but not a shorter list, but I wish they didn't have so much bonus content here. But it turns out, first two presidents, George Washington and John Adams, neither had a middle name. Neither did Thomas Jefferson. Wait, James Madison, did we not have middle names back then? James Monroe. James Monroe. The king took all the middle names. James Monroe. That's why we had to rebel. First president with a middle name, his middle name was Spence. Ooh, that's pretty cool.

00:53:59 - 00:54:40 | Speaker 1:

It seems like a nickname for Spencer, though, doesn't it? Did Andrew Johnson have a middle name? Let me look that up. Why do you ask? Because Andrew Johnson drank too much whiskey before his vice presidential inauguration, according to this list. When Andrew Johnson was inaugurated as vice president in 1865, he was completely trashed. He was actually very ill from typhoid and drank whiskey to try to numb the aches and pains, except he overdid it and ended up slurring his way through his oaths. Then he tried to swear in the new senators, but got too confused and had to let a Senate clerk complete his duties instead.

00:54:41 - 00:54:59 | Speaker 2:

I am, this is getting into history that we shouldn't be getting into, but would this have, did he serve a second term? Because he took over after Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, right? So I'm trying to figure out, was this an inauguration that was an emergency inauguration kind of situation because they had to, you know, get him in power?

00:55:00 - 00:55:04 | Speaker 3:

or is this like the next time around because why would he be swearing in senators if it was right

00:55:04 - 00:56:04 | Speaker 2:

after the assassination uh we have now gone well beyond my sort of uh knowledge of presidential and vice presidential history um was he also the one who was impeached twice is he the only one or sorry was was he also impeached i believe no one's been impeached twice except for yeah old trumpy so i guess put that on the list by the way uh this was a this is a great sort of little bit of historical context michigan center senator zachariah chandler which is the most michigan senator from uh 1865 name you could ever have zachariah chandler wrote to his wife i was never so mortified in my life had i been able to find a hole i would have dropped through it out of sight that was how he described his feelings around uh andrew johnson drunkenly addressing the senate for his part abraham lincoln defended his vice president assuring the public okay so abraham lincoln was still alive in that he was releasing statements about andrew johnson

00:56:04 - 00:56:14 | Speaker 3:

oh this is his oh he's that's why he's swearing in senators i'm such an idiot of course he's vice president here so he's the one swearing in senators it all makes sense i take i'll cut all

00:56:14 - 00:56:41 | Speaker 2:

that out uh ding play your bingo card i have known this is a vice president uh excuse me president lincoln says i have known andrew johnson for many years he made a slip up he made a slip up the other day but you need not be scared andy ain't a drunkard which seems very like low kind of lowbrow for for abraham lincoln they also were able to this was in the early days of audio recording but they were able to finally get a statement from andrew johnson and this is what

00:56:41 - 00:56:47 | Speaker 1:

he said they're trying to say i was drunk i drank eight beers yesterday that was all i drank yeah

00:56:47 - 00:56:56 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's actually better sound quality than I would have thought for that time. I know. It's better than that version of Coldplay Clocks that I played. Which was also from the same ceremony, I think. Yeah. Right?

00:56:56 - 00:57:15 | Speaker 2:

Was it not? Yeah. Who are the only two presidents, Andrew? There's no way you'll get this because I would have never gotten it. It's a very curious little historical footnote. Two presidents have been inaugurated four times. Two presidents have been inaugurated four times. Can you guess who they are?

00:57:15 - 00:57:46 | Speaker 3:

I always say Benjamin Harrison, but in this case, I don't think that can be right. So I'll have to acknowledge my rule and then break it. I mean, it must have been – what was FDR one of them? Ooh, look at you. And then – Somebody needs to do the Jeopardy! online quiz. I'm actually really terrible at this. I just know that he served for a – what was his deal? Did the rule about only serving two terms come after he was elected? See, I'm messing this up. What was his story again?

00:57:46 - 00:58:25 | Speaker 2:

No, I knew that FDR is the only person who's been able to serve more than two terms as president. But one of the kind of interesting things, which, of course, I don't have that sheet right at the ready, was apparently his sort of final inauguration, if you will, FDRs, they basically just – it was like somebody's third wedding. They just were like, eh. I don't know if they even really had much of a ceremony. There was no parade. He was just like, yeah, we got this. We'll just keep this rolling. Right, right. You know, which is kind of funny. So, yeah. So, FDR was inaugurated four times. The other one is Barack Obama.

00:58:25 - 00:58:42 | Speaker 3:

Oh, that's right. He had to wait four times, though. I remember he did have to retake it. Remember, those conspiracy theories started from day friggin one. Remember the conspiracy theories of saying he didn't he what they skip a graph or a sentence or something. So he had to retake the oath again in private.

00:58:42 - 00:59:02 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I didn't know there was conspiracy theories that—I mean, I guess, of course, there were. What happened was Chief Justice John Roberts misstated a few words while administering the oath of office to Barack Obama during his first inauguration in 2009, so he was sworn in the next day out of an abundance of caution.

00:59:02 - 00:59:04 | Speaker 3:

I remember that. Okay, so that's two.

00:59:04 - 00:59:23 | Speaker 2:

Then he did it again in 2013 because what happened was January 20th, the day he is set to become president, was on a Sunday. So he took the oath in private on Sunday, the 20th, the day he was president, and then the next day they had the whole ceremony on the 21st, and he did it publicly.

00:59:24 - 00:59:29 | Speaker 3:

I wish I remembered that. I feel like I could have gotten both of those if I just used my new one more. Now you know it.

00:59:29 - 00:59:35 | Speaker 2:

It was only the second time in history that a president was sworn in four times. The other was FDR, who served four terms.

00:59:35 - 00:59:42 | Speaker 3:

So I guess FDR didn't serve four terms. Oh, that's what confused me. I thought FDR served three terms. Wow. I did, too, actually. Yeah, that's weird.

00:59:43 - 01:02:40 | Speaker 2:

Like, even three feels like a stretch. I mean, I know that he was a very popular president. It just seems kind of like dicey. But four terms is like you're just, you know, you're basically like one term away from a Kim Jong-un situation. That's why they said we got to stop this. No more. know more of this yeah um i've got 33 other fun facts about oh by the way john adams was the first president to skip his successor's inauguration i didn't know i honestly if you would have asked me i would have said probably trump is the first one to ever do this bs but you know there's a tweet for everything and uh this has happened before john adams uh skipped uh thomas jefferson's inauguration even though he and jefferson this is actually kind of a um i consider myself a a bit of a michael beschloss yeah with this little trip down to a trip through historical presidential history that i'm going to take you on so i guess john adams and thomas jefferson were actually close friends but as their political careers diverged they became rivals When Jefferson was inaugurated in 1801, back in March, by the way, because the inaugurations used to happen in March. Another fun fact. Adams was nowhere to be found, even though he was the outgoing president. Eight hours before the big event, he'd left Washington and started making his way back to his family farm in Braintree, Massachusetts. This made Adams the first president who chose to skip his successor's swearing-in ceremony. here's kind of crazy history repeated itself 28 years later when John Quincy Adams boycotted Andrew Jackson's inauguration John Quincy Adams being the son of John Adams so that was really running in the face may we never get to Quincy flashes of Q speaking of flashes of Q may we never see one of the Trump boys get to reenact this down the line I'm knocking on wood furiously here is the but here's the part that here's the part that will probably win me a peabody award when i just read this passage from mental floss it's kind of sweet actually adams and jefferson eventually made up when in 1811 adams casually told some house guests i always loved jefferson and i still love him mutual friends forward this comment along to monticello where jefferson was thrilled he said i only needed this knowledge to revive towards adams all of the affections of the most cordial moments of our lives he proclaimed over the next 15 years the two ex-presidents exchanged more than 150 friendly letters they both died within hours of each other on the same day july 4th 1826 so they had a falling out and then dude just overhears that the other guy is saying nice things about him behind his back and they're back at it as friends

01:02:40 - 01:02:52 | Speaker 1:

And then they both take poison and die within hours of each other, like Romeo and Juliet. That's how we're going to go, right? Is that? Yeah. I've already got the. I mean, we're going to follow that exact arc. I've already got the poison picked out. Yeah.

01:02:52 - 01:03:09 | Speaker 2:

I just mean as far as the falling out. Oh, right, right, right. And then, like, don't mention Andrew Walsh around me. And then you'll be like, Luke Burbank is dead to me because he miked up my whole house and put in one teddy cam, which I wish I wouldn't have put that in the bedroom. God, if I could do one thing over again, it would be, don't put that one in the bedroom. But anyway.

01:03:09 - 01:03:20 | Speaker 1:

But that's where I keep all my teddy bears, and that's what you mean by a teddy cam, right? A camera that focuses on all of my teddy bears. Yeah, but what you do with the teddy bears is troubling.

01:03:20 - 01:03:33 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. That is troubling. But then we become friends years later because through back channels, somebody like Rodin tells me that you've been saying kind of nice things about me, and then we're dear friends.

01:03:33 - 01:03:57 | Speaker 1:

See, I think that you are the one who is saying nice things about me behind my back, and then that softens me. I think that's more the dynamic let's thank some donors of the day

01:03:57 - 01:04:41 | Speaker 2:

these are the wonderful listeners who are generously supporting the show and making today's episode possible a particularly I was going to say august episode, but I'm not willing to declare this episode august, but I'm willing to declare this day to be august. And we wouldn't be here doing it without folks like Paul Richardson of Bardsey, West Yorkshire. Wow. Paul checking in from all the way across the pond to help support American democracy, because this will be probably the podcast of record for today's events, right? And, I mean, this is an international effort.

01:04:42 - 01:06:22 | Speaker 1:

I feel like it's weird that a lot of people don't even know what's going on yet because they haven't heard the show yet, so they don't know if the inauguration went as planned. They have nowhere else to get this information. But I am glad that Paul was able to help out, though. Paul did know because they're five hours ahead. So Paul knew before anybody. Over here now Right, yeah I mean, five hours ahead of New York, that is Way ahead of us here on the West Coast Rhoda Ashley is right here in Portland, Oregon Rhoda, what's good? I'll see you out on the Springwater Trail later today Sounds like a threat I'll be the guy struggling Struggling to breathe through my gator Boy, tell you what Portland, the runners, tip of the cap Most of them, anyway, are very, very, very committed To wearing their masks And their little like neck gaiters While jogging which then of course Creates a I would say a very positive Peer pressure environment yes that's good But the problem is I'm not really Great at jogging anyway especially With the face covering anywhere else he wrote out there later Danielle and Chris Greenewalt Of Philadelphia PA It's a good city Yeah the birthplace Of our democracy is that a thing that happened it seems like it liberty bell yeah you got that going you got um you know pat and genos you got that happening it's a very it's a very uh important place to the history of this country that we're celebrating today and then of course gray chapman is in san jose california which is kind of the philadelphia of the west that's what they always

01:06:22 - 01:06:28 | Speaker 2:

say famously it's almost cliche i'm almost embarrassed that you just like fell for that cliche right there, Luke. But I understand you're trying to keep

01:06:28 - 01:08:19 | Speaker 1:

the needles moving. I mean, probably the only place that rivals San Jose for just its place in sort of the American revolutionary history is Phoenix, Arizona, which is where Abigail Kirkland is. Yep. And then Kayla Harris, wait. On the day when Kamala Harris is sworn in as vice president of this country, we have a Kayla Harris from Stockton, California, which is not exactly the bay area but you know it's not super far from the bay area kayla harris checking in and donating to the show kayla thank you as well thanks to all of our donors of the day uh we would not be able to do this uh without you so thanks for thanks for making the show possible and again we've been through a lot as a as a as a show and as a group of friends over the last four years um you know from from basically the day after the 2016 election till this moment it's been it's been a thing man and it's been this kind of heavy emotional weight and that emotional weight has hit a lot of people much harder than you and i andrew as i think we try to be careful to remember uh with all the privilege that we have but even so it has been heavy duty and today that weight feels however momentarily lifted and i just feel really honored that we've been able to get to do shows for all of those all of those days in between that dark day and this day that feels a little bit brighter so thanks to all of the donors and the people who are just part of the tbtl universe um because we wouldn't be here without all of you uh before we skedaddle anything else you want to say I assume you've prepared some closing remarks that will rival that poem that we heard from Amanda Gorman yeah in fact and I assume will be delivered with the same eloquence yes

01:08:19 - 01:08:33 | Speaker 2:

I actually had written down very very similar thoughts so I feel like it would be just be a little repetitive I'm not super psyched that you asked me this now at the end of the show knowing that Amanda would go first and kind of steal my thunder

01:08:33 - 01:08:47 | Speaker 1:

that did kind of I sandbagged you there you know what actually though I, somebody has just stepped up to the podium and I just, I would like to kind of go out on this note because I think this is actually, let me see if I can get to this here before they're done talking. Terry poo.

01:08:47 - 01:08:54 | Speaker 2:

Terry poo. Terry poo. Terry poo. Terry poo. Terry poo. Terry poo. Terry poo. Terry poo. Terry poo.

01:08:54 - 01:09:17 | Speaker 1:

Terry poo. I think that's a good, a kind of nice little bow to put on this whole thing. We're transitioning out of the patriotic talk and back into the more TBTL-centric content, which is me playing audio drops of you and I saying the name of your grandpa's Terry Poo. And in conclusion, Terry Poo.

01:09:17 - 01:09:24 | Speaker 2:

Terry Poo. That's actually Garth Brooks' last words, too. So again, I'm kind of—wait, did he just talk? No, he just sang. Do we know what Garth Brooks sang, by the way?

01:09:24 - 01:09:40 | Speaker 1:

I think he sang God Bless America. And I'm going to, because I am feeling happy and hopeful today, Andrew, I'm going to decline to get into my thoughts about that being the ending note of the whole thing.

01:09:41 - 01:09:43 | Speaker 2:

That was the final act?

01:09:43 - 01:09:59 | Speaker 1:

I mean, more or less. I think there was a prayer afterwards. But I will say this, because people really, what they turned to this podcast today for was my speculation on the scheduling of things. I think what must have happened was because they were running a bit behind, I think they might have moved some.

01:10:00 - 01:11:30 | Speaker 2:

things around so as to make sure that the swearing in I mean that's the biggie right that's the thing that has to happen again I don't think anybody in charge of this wanted to put Donnie on the clock any longer than he was allowed to be and so the sense I get also maybe my my internet information may have been wrong but the sense I had was that they might have moved a few things to after the United that were supposed to happen in the lead-up to the swearing in I think they might have moved them to after the swearing in so that they could make sure to do that part on time but anyway yeah that was what seemed to sort of wrap it up and um you know i don't i don't know a lot about garth brooks's politics i would guess they don't really align with mine i'm going to choose to see it as a moment of unity uh that that he was out there performing and that maybe that will send a message to a certain segment of the u.s population that we have got to try to get on the same page as a country um you know like uh the only the only way for us to get to where we're trying to go as a people and and just to to to to you know achieve the goals of being human beings on this planet is to do it together so i'm hoping that that's that that's the takeaway from uh you know from from the the final bits of uh of this whole inaugural um celebration i guess and i'll tell you what andrew i am it's a it's a pretty day here in portland i'm going to strap on my jogging shoes and i'm going to just get out there and i'm going to hug

01:11:30 - 01:11:36 | Speaker 1:

every person i see you know luke don't hold back give him a little kiss too because yeah that's

01:11:36 - 01:11:51 | Speaker 2:

the kind of day it is all of our problems are solved the virus is on pause for one day that's also by the way we buried the lead the virus cannot transmit on this day so i'd say Hug them if you got them. Okay.

01:11:52 - 01:11:58 | Speaker 1:

All right. We're going to get sued over something today. I'm just trying to figure out which part it is.

01:11:58 - 01:12:08 | Speaker 2:

Well, that's the thing. You know what, Andrew? You flood the zone. You give the lawyers so many different things that are actionable that they can't. Their brain just short-circuit.

01:12:08 - 01:12:18 | Speaker 1:

This is something that I feel like Rudy Giuliani actually encouraged something to do at one point. That sounds like an actual legal strategy that he has championed.

01:12:19 - 01:12:25 | Speaker 2:

yeah so um uh well thanks everybody for which what song should we go out with well i had an

01:12:25 - 01:12:46 | Speaker 1:

idea it's a little bit i'll be honest with you i i have not actually heard this song i'm looking for something that fits the moment i see that nina simone does what i assume to be a cover of here comes the sun i was gonna roll the dice on that if we didn't stop to ask but if you if you have anything else that is a little bit closer to your heart i'm nope um more than happy to switch

01:12:46 - 01:13:21 | Speaker 2:

things up no man let's do that let's go out with some Nina Simone uh hey thanks everyone again thanks for being part of TBTL we're gonna be right back here tomorrow uh with another episode of this here imaginary radio program so please do join us for that until then uh have a great Wednesday stay safe take care of yourselves take care of each other by the way you still can get the virus today so please do mask up if you see me on the trail coming for a hug dip out on that swerve on that. But again, thanks for being part of TPTL. We'll see you tomorrow. Until then, God bless America, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

01:13:21 - 01:14:59 | Speaker 3:

Here comes the sun, little darling. Here comes the sun. I say it's alright. It's alright. Little darling, It's been a long cold and lonely winter, little darling It feels like years since you've been here Here comes the sun, little darling Here comes the sun, I say it's all right It's all mine Little darling The smiles are returning to the faces now Little darling It seems like years since you've been here Little darling It's been a long cold, lonely winter Little darling, it feels like yes Since you've been here Here comes the sun Here comes the sun Aren't you glad to see it? I see it

01:15:00 - 01:15:07 | Speaker 1:

Power out.

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