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You will be in room 237, and you have free Wi-Fi there. Also, from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. every morning, there's a free continental breakfast.

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The pit of the donut. Mmm. Thank you, turkey. Buckle up. Let's see where we shall go next. Ah, the Danish. Clearly from Brussels. Hello, Greece. Where the yogurt flows like water.

Yes. Like go-gurt, but to stay. And who are you, my little friend? Not a spoon, not a fork, but something in between. A fa-poon. What will you think of next, Germany? T-B-T-L

Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is?

It's Friday. Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend. Brother, who are you? What are you doing? I'm with the news, dude. What comes before anything? What have we always said is the most important thing?

Breakfast.

Family.

Family, right? I thought you meant of the things you eat. They say, you snooze, you lose. But we snoozed. And look what we lost.

all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a friday edition of tbtl

the show that just might be too beautiful to live this is a serious message to everybody watching my update right now my name is luke burbank i am your host if you want to talk i've

got two ears and they're tuned to the listening station coming to you from the nest broadcast center high in the sky above a portland oregon where it is a kind of a gray day it was a little rainy earlier this morning when i was out shaking a leg had a lot of time this morning before the show actually did something that we were discussing on yesterday's program which is went to bed early and then got up very early today early bird gets the worm but who wants to live on worms and it was incredible i mean mostly it happened because somehow i was trying to set the alarm on my phone and i really messed up and said i was trying to set it for like 7 30 which is not that early but accidentally set it for 5 30 and then it went off at 5 30 and then i was mad but then i realized i had to pee and then by the time i had peed i was kind of awake so then i just took on the day like a champion an accidental champion um i think uh though i think that bodes well for episode 3353 in a collector series let the fun begin i've had hours hours to contemplate what we're going to talk about on the show today and what i've decided is we're gonna talk about a story that we didn't get to yesterday the new uh the incoming ceo of Amazon. A guy named Andy Jassy loves spicy chicken. These are the best Cajun chicken niblets I've ever had. And I assume we'll be refocusing all of Amazon's incredible resources towards basically chicken wing eating contests. I assume that's going to be what Amazon will now be about as a company. So we'll talk about that. Also, speaking of CEOs, the uh my pillow guy released a documentary putting that in quotes which you can't see because this is you know a podcast but he's laying out in this documentary item by item the conspiracy around how the election was stolen extortion bribery junkyard cats this is nasty heavy stuff we'll play a little sample from that we don't usually play stuff that's political or We try not to, but this is not political. This is art. This is outsider art. It's outside the bounds of anything that makes any sense. And we'll play it for you coming up. And also, because it's a Friday, we've got some Friday inspiration for you.

I am extraordinary!

To get you ready to slay all day, Saturday and Sunday. We will motivate you here on this Friday. speaking of guys who are always motivated this is the longest running

Cobra of the show. He is known for his drawings of tall ships, their grace, and their majesty. He's been doing this for it's got easily two years, maybe two plus years he's been on the program and I value our friendship so much. Their friendship survived many years and multiple hairdos. He is Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington.

Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Early Bird. I got a text message. I don't know if the listeners know they can text us now. Same number, 206-414- 8285. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We talked about this before. Google Voice, man. Google Voice. You can text that number. I'll get it on my phone. I might text you back right away. Might not. Anyway, listener Maggie texted me yesterday, said, listening to today's show, that would have been yesterday's show. I have it all written down somewhere. It says, my dad used to get up at 4 a.m. in order to have some alone time every day. Sounds like you were taking after Maggie's dad a little bit.

Yeah, except accidentally. Like, I did not – this is not something that hasn't been explored on this show and many other places, but not every software update improves the user's experience, Andrew. And I was really into the sleep, the sort of alarm, the daily alarm setting on the iPhone where you could set it basically to, you know, go off. You could set the days of the week you wanted to go off. And also what I found very helpful about it is it has an indicator that shows you sort of like you tell it, OK, I'm going to go to bed at this time. And then in order to get the amount of sleep you want, like I told it, I want to try to get eight hours of sleep a night. And then if you're if yeah, exactly. If you're proposing getting up in an hour or if you need to get up in an hour that will not allow you the eight hours, it gives you like it gives you an alert like, hey, you're not sticking with the agreement. And it also, about, I don't know, 45 minutes, an hour before your bedtime, whatever you've said it is, it gives you a gentle reminder. This is, hey, it's time to shut the phone off. It's time to start kind of winding down. And it also, what I really like about it is that the alarm that they have, I think it's called like Daybreak or something. It's the least stress-inducing alarm I've ever heard. I know I've played it on the show before. But anyway, I have been generally very happy with this. Well, they upgraded it. That's also in air quotes. and now it's like very hard to use you in order to set the time you have to click on this very small rectangle on the left side is the hour on the right side is the minutes and then to the right of that is the am and pm there's a lot of chances to mess something up in this it also does a thing where if you if i tell it i want to wake up at this time tomorrow but i haven't changed the entire setting like if i go into the alarm function and i say you know what i've got a lot to do i should move the alarm up or it's going to be a casual day for me i can sleep in a bit if i change the alarm there's one more screen i have to go through for it to actually change it on the recurring alarm so there are many days where i'll have two different alarms going this is complicated right this is not getting easier this is getting more complex no you know

how they say set it and then forget it uh-huh well what if you just don't set it well i'm just saying when do they forget it but i'm just saying that like what instead of setting it and then forgetting it my people have already forgotten yeah um no that's like that old you know how many

babies can you fit in the tire thing no no it's a good point um so in all of this improvement of this app or this part of the you know ios that i was actually kind of an evangelist for like more than one person and not just the listeners of the show people in real life have been bored with me explaining my love for this particular element of the phone and now i can't seem to do it straight like i said a lot of times i'll have two different alarms going off at different times because i thought i was just telling it okay from now on we're getting up at 6 30 but it only did it for one day uh etc etc well and somehow i managed to set one of these kooky alarms for 5 30 this morning which was not the plan in fact we dialed up a little bit on the later side we had planned on it was a friday we're gonna treat ourselves and so of all the days for me to wake up at 5 30 you know and that's the difference between being 44 and being even 34 for me or 24 once the alarm goes off it's 5 30 and then if i make a trip to the bathroom even if i try to keep my eyes closed andrew which is the oldest trick in the book even if i try to sort of like not let very much light in and go into the bathroom and try to

trick my brain into thinking we're still asleep really i've never done that you've never pulled that move no i'm also in a situation here uh

uh which would be probably one of the bigger complaints of the apartment which i love is our bedroom is on a different floor than the bathroom so i'm like putting on hiking boots i'm getting those hiking poles i'm walking all the way down the stairs like there's no way i can trick my body into thinking i'm asleep for that whole thing i mean that i guess to being on a

different floor than the bathroom is is probably not ideal just because stairs in the middle of the night. It's not a great combo. But I've said this many times on the program. The idea of the bathroom not being attached to the bedroom, I think, is a wonder. Now, I will say this because I live alone and there happens to be a bathroom that's attached to my my little bedroom. I don't mind it because it's just me. So it is kind of convenient to get up in the middle of the night and go use the facilities. But in in relationship life and married life and that version of my life i do not want to be connected to the room where we're trying to sleep when i am needing to use the bathroom in the middle of the night because that's not usually because you're just thinking hey i'm bored let me go do something that's usually because there's some kind of a sub-optimal situation so uh but but in your house maybe it's a little extreme because of the steps

i mean it's not i i it's not something that i've complained about before i just that idea of like kind of trying to keep your eyes closed i never even never even occurred to me to do something

I would do it all the time at the Bellingham house because also, you know, that there was no bathroom attached to our bedroom, but it was on the same floor and it was down the hall. So it was like you go out the bedroom, you take a right to the next door on your right. And so sometimes I would just try to, like, really not open my eyes very much. And then you get into like this. It's like two in the morning or something. Right. Then you get into a real dangerous game in the bathroom because are you going to wipe? With the lights out.

Mm hmm. I don't. Yeah. Yeah. I was I was picturing even though everything that you just said about the attached bathroom, I thought the middle of the night thing was still more of a number one than a number two situation. So I thought you're generally number one. But if it is number two, because if you let's this morning is a bad example because it was 530 was within the range of get up time.

So I wasn't obsessed with trying to keep myself in a sort of catatonic state. But if it was three in the morning and I was like, I got to get a good night's sleep because I've got a lot to do the next day. And I wake up to use the bathroom and let's just say it's, you know, a number two situation. If I turn on the bathroom light, it's, I mean, have you ever heard of a dim bathroom light? That's just not the, it's always super bright. And it's like, forget it. You're fully awake at that point. And so sometimes in the interest of trying to not become fully awake, I have had to go to the bathroom, but I haven't had the light on, and then I have to just really, really – this was before I had a bidet.

I was going to say – I was going to call you out on this. As I say, I thought, I mean, visualization is a regular occurrence either.

I'm just saying there have been times in my life where I have decided that I'm going to roll the dice and I'm going to just hope that everything's handled because I don't want to turn on the light and inspect the situation more carefully because then I will just be awake for far too long.

No, forget that. I mean, if that's the level of engagement at that time of night, lights are on, phone is on. I'm checking the eastern markets, the Nikkei. I'm engaged at this point. I'm figuring out what's going on in the world. I'm not trying to trick my body that I'm sleep pooping, which is what we're talking about here.

I am checking the eastern markets, by the way. Do you know that I threw a little money onto the Robinhood app, which is, I know, controversial. A former sponsor, maybe a future sponsor. I don't know enough about finance to know if they're part of the problem or if they were a victim of circumstances. I'm not trying to make a statement. It's just I had it on my phone because legitimately when we talk about using a product on the show, we used it at some point.

And also don't say anything bad about them because we've already rejected so many pitches from the sales department this week because of one thing or another that I have a hang-up about or have trashed on the show before. We can't talk about details, but, like, please, like, just don't say anything bad about Robin Hood because I can't tell Sally. No, you used up all of your vetoes this week.

But I will say to the listeners, like, that's a real thing. Not to not to pat ourselves on the back too hard, but, like, we are very careful about the things that we are going to promote on this show during the commercial breaks. because we really don't want to just become like, you know, one of those shows where you think we're just going to read any old spot. We really have, if we say that we've used something, we really are using it. And if it's something that seems like it may not be the best deal for the listeners or if it's something that we can't really do the research on, we... no thanks we say no thanks a lot i would imagine probably more than well this last week was just

like a real record for us and i feel like i was responsible for a lot of those well no you have

your i'll can i say it or no that's probably if i say because then if they hear it on a different show they'll they'll know that that show has zero scruples anyway point is i threw some money on robin hood and andrew was because i wanted to like last week short game stop i think we did

talk about this I can't remember if we talked about it on the air or not though maybe it was on the show the other

day but you can't do it through Robin you need to have a full on complicated broke not complicated but you need like somebody sitting behind a desk who has some kind of other classification who can it's a it's a more complicated thing than just a button on an app right right so it didn't but yeah I'm just trying to say so how you doing so you're

but now you sprinkle a little sugar

What I did was I reached out to our friend Toon, who is a verified stock knower, and I asked her what to do. And she gave me some advice, and I followed her advice. And I am, as of today, up on this account, $50, and then my crypto account. Remember the crypto? I'm not giving the actual things because I don't know legally if I'm allowed to do that. You know what I mean? Like I don't want to get into stock tips.

As I said in the newsletter last week, all I can tell you is past performance does not guarantee future results. That's as far as we're allowed to go.

I turned on this crypto app, and I was like, hey, I still had some money in there. And I think at that time it was like almost $200. And then it went down. Well, I asked our friend Tune, and she said she gave me a name of a different crypto that she's in. And I moved the candy over to that. And as of today, it's $260. Oh, nice. It almost, it more than doubled.

I have an idea for a segment, actually. We're kind of doing it casually now, but what if we kind of formalize this a little bit, and we do a segment every day. We check in. At the top of the show, the segment is called, Are We Rich Yet, Daddy? And I, in a baby voice, I ask you, we have some like kind of like some music, like some old-timey Shirley Temple music, and then in a kind of a baby voice, I ask you, Are We Rich Yet, Daddy?

Uh-huh. I don't like it. Oh, you don't? You don't like it? I'm always on the lookout for content. For some reason, when you said the daddy voice, it reminded me of, this is so hyper-specific, and I wouldn't imagine this is something that you would have a memory of, Andrew, but the David S. Pumpkins sketch on SNL, I imagine you would remember that. It's kind of a cultural phenomenon.

I also remember that I did not know about this cultural phenomenon until you played it on the show for me,

Well, that's why I don't think this very, very subtle part of it will register with you. But there is a moment where – so there's David S. Pumpkins is this just oddball character played by Tom Hanks that's on one of the levels of kind of like a Disney theme park ride, the Tower of Terror or something like that. And then he has these two sort of skeleton creatures dancing behind him, and none of it makes any sense. The reason this has been on my mind is because I've been listening to that Dead Eyes podcast, which is hosted by a guy named Connor Ratliff. It's a really good listen. And he ends up interviewing one of the people that was one of the skeletons, Bobby Moynihan. And it ends up turning into sort of an impromptu oral history of the sketch and how basically like they did this. They wrote the sketch and they just kept making it more crazy. And Tom Hanks was like, didn't like the sketch, kept making a joke. hey don't you know who would be a great david s pumpkins um liam hemsworth who i guess was the star the following week that's how you know you're getting nagged by the guest host is when they're suggesting that maybe the next week's guest host would be better for the role that kind of bums me

out though i was really hoping that tom hanks was gonna get it early on because i'm sure he gets it

now as with every tom hanks story this one has a happy ending because what ends up so they they go through rehearsal and it's kind of flat and and again they're all kind of i mean tom hanks is being game because he could have he could have scotched it you know i mean i might get my sense is that the the host has the right to say no thanks to any sketch when they're in their development phase so the host is never going to be obligated to do a sketch they don't want to do but it got through dress rehearsal and it kind of was sort of not working and then what essentially happened was tom hanks just reinvented the character made like the thing we think of as david f david s pumpkins was completely an invention of tom hanks made 20 seconds before the cameras turned on for

the national tv broadcast really so not the outfit and everything but just the presentation

exactly the voice the weirdness i mean by bobby moynihan's description it was like he just fully committed fully committed to this weirdness and as they're all out there

doing it and the audience is dying it's like he gets this by morning he gets this moment of just like oh my god this is working this is going to be a thing but anyway one of the things that they do that they added like between the rehearsal and the actual airing of the of the performance was i think it's mikey day one of the skeletons going i poppy for okay no discernible reason they're just doing a silly dance and then they like pretend to like spank each other on the butt And then one of the skeletons says, hi, poppy. And that's kind of how I imagine you saying, are we rich yet, daddy?

Oh, I see. Yeah, maybe, maybe. I was picturing it again, very kind of. Well, it's your character. You're allowed to develop it the way you want. I don't want to do the voice right now because I'd like to workshop it a little bit without being in front of a microphone. Could you do it more fearfully? I definitely could. I definitely could. And I feel like if I start workshopping that right now, that's the type of thing that I'm going to be hearing back in my headphones Monday morning when you introduce me on the show. I'd just like to ease into my Monday a little bit smoother than that, I think.

All right. That's fair. Oh, we got to do our Friday inspiration here. Yes, we do. My friend. Should we break first?

It's already 20 after.

What about the people that need to be inspired before they get the ads? No, that is true.

Okay, okay, okay.

and also I have hold on I have some new Friday inspiration music which I think will also if any of you are fighting you know Clubber Lang or any other just high you know sort of high profile boxing matches this weekend this should get you pumped up

this is the music I was going to use for the are we rich yet daddy segment but that's okay we can use it for this instead

are we rich yet daddy I poppy can that be the name of the segment so the this started like two weeks ago because uh andrew you had that incredible tape of i think the guy's named dan campbell the coach of the detroit lions talking about how they were going to behave as a team but it was very confusing it involved a lot of knee biting and smiling and getting punched but then being the last team standing it was somewhere between um chumba wumba

and the NFL.

Somewhere between tub thumping and the knights who say knee.

Can I just take a moment to celebrate a victory there? Because I started that sentence without Chumba Wumba fully formed in my brain. I'm like, just trust your brain that you'll come up with the band name when you need to. You know what, Andrew? And it was there. It was there. Because Friday motivation worked, dude. Listen to how jazzy

the Rocky theme gets to.

Oh, wow. An electric guitar? I wouldn't have guessed.

Who knew that they let that electric guitar guy go crazy? Okay, so last week then I just dug through a box of Splenda packets that had motivational kind of phrases on the back. And today we may have reached the end of the line on this segment because I'm mostly out of ideas. what i ended up doing was just putting hashtag friday into twitter and then just looking and seeing what came up uh under hashtag friday friday not friday in fact you know maybe if we do extend the bit we could do it next week as friday and probably just be tbtl stuff but so a lot of people like to tweet inspirational stuff on friday my guess is that if you put in hashtag thursday you You might get some inspirational tweets. There seems to be a kind of person who just likes to tweet inspirational things and hashtag it to a day. And so I'm just going to share some of these with you. Okay, Andrew? Okay, good. Somebody called George the Storebridge Junction Station Cat. That was your name for a while, right? Yeah, well, Junkyard Cat. Right. This is nasty, heavy stuff. This is what this person says. People who wonder if the glass is half empty or half full Really do miss the point The glass is refillable Oh, damn

Unicorn mind explosion Indeed Speaking of, I am going to have to, during the break, go get some more coffee

Me too Okay, good Aaron Green, author, says I am not like everyone else I don't pretend to be And I don't want to be Hmm. Individuality is important. A guy named Voss said, if you're inspired on a hashtag Friday, when you are high on hashtag inspiration, you get two weeks of work done in 24 hours. And then he attaches this, which is legitimately an interesting thing to consider, Andrew. Okay. Inspiration is perishable We all have ideas Ideas are immortal They last

forever what doesn't last forever is inspiration inspiration is like fresh fruit or milk it has an expiration date if you want to do something you've got to do it now you can't put it on a shelf and wait until two months to get around to it you can't just say you'll do it later well actually

yeah kind of right i'm thinking about it i'll be honest i'm thinking about it right it's got

you thinking because i know that feeling of like there are moments i think we all have these moments of real productivity that we kind of just it feels like oh this kind of you know this is a um i'm feeling inspired in this situation i'm feeling like um the words are coming to me easily or the whatever the project is i guess that would be the kind of inspiration phase yeah and so if you've got if you're in that inspiration phase you got to really harness it i mean there have been times

i mean i know these are silly things but i can think of a very specific time this i want to say last summer um where i was i hadn't made a mixtape in a really long time maybe this was a couple of summers ago and then i just suddenly was like you know what i have these songs rattling around in my head i'm gonna put together a little playlist and i was just like i was really into the idea and i maybe started it put three songs in there and then the next day i'm like what am i doing Why do I want to make a mixtape? I don't need a mixtape. Like, it just whatever I was feeling in that moment on, let's say, a Friday night was totally dissipated on a Saturday.

So there you go. If you're feeling inspired, if you're feeling motivation, try to harness it because you will get a lot or you're feeling, yeah, inspiration. That can really, you know, treat that with respect that and honor it and harness it. Yeah. I guess is the Friday motivation. And then, of course, the band, the Australian metal band, Scythian Fate. Oh, it's going to be dark. It's a photo of, I assume, maybe the lead singer or guitarist. Have a great Friday, folks. Nearly time to smash down more riffs. Ooh, that's power. Hashtag happy Friday. Hashtag riffage. Hashtag Scythian Fate. Hashtag metal.

Nice. What is the actual verb there again? Smash down some more riffs?

nearly time to smash down more riffs. I actually really like that. And actually I've left out three fire emojis and for some reason those like time code sticks they say, you know, action and clack them. What's that? Those are the emojis that are also featured in this message that I want to

give a more full description. I don't know if I can picture the emoji that you're talking about.

Okay, you know when they say action and you clack that thing? Oh, yes.

Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, for some reason you said those words. I had like aphasia of the ears for a second. I think you said words and I only heard them broken up by consonants and they were not pairing up properly. Like I literally could not tell what you were saying. I was also writing something down because I was writing down my own inspiration here. Riffs are perishable, which is hashtag Fri-Yay, hashtag inspiration, hashtag clapper thing.

I want you to write that tweet and I don't want you to contextualize it. I will pay you $10 if you do that. You just let it live on the internet.

Do you mind if I play a little tape for you, Luke, before we go to the break? I don't mind at all.

Because you mentioned... This is more football tape, right?

I like this. Yes, as we got into that segment, you were explaining that this whole thing started when we heard this tape from Dan Campbell, a brand new coach giving his first press conference as head coach of the Lions, and he said some of this befuddling nonsense.

So this team's going to be built on, we're going to kick you in the teeth, and when you punch us back, we're going to smile at you, and when you knock us down, we're going to get up. And on the way up, we're going to bite a kneecap off, and we're going to stand up, and then it's going to take two more shots to knock us down. And on the way up, we're going to take your other kneecap, and we're going to get up, and then it's going to take three shots to get us down. And when we do, we're going to take another hunk out of you. But before long, where are they going to be the last one standing? All right? That's going to be the mentality.

I love your foley there. It's perfect. By the way, I didn't intend to play the whole thing. I was going to play just the beginning of it. You can't.

Honestly, once that thing starts playing, it's like it's criminal to stop it.

You know, listening to a lot of the Levitard show, I feel like lately I've been hearing some things that are kind of cautionary tales for things that we shouldn't do. But also one of the things I have learned is you always want to hear the tape. It doesn't matter how many times you've heard it. Like, if it brings you joy, just keep playing it.

It really is like a song, you know, that you that you love or something. And in fact, it's it's it's funny because probably 50 percent.

of the longevity of our show or at least why people tend to tune in on the regular basis has to do with silly audio drops and when we do live shows and play things and you see people mouthing along in the audience you realize that these that the tape is that's mostly the the value uh add that we are able to offer to the listeners is you will get to hear a lot of gary bucey you also get to hear because this is going to be football related we have some football oh nice for this tape okay yeah so what i'm gonna play now a

listener sent this to me the day after we played that other tape and i you know i found it difficult to kind of bring it into the show but now that i'm thinking about it i really want to share it with you so the listener who sent this to me and i can't find out if it was an email or a tweet or an instagram or a slack i i'm sorry buddy i don't i don't remember who you are but um sent me this as sort of the almost polar opposite of that so the philadelphia eagles also have a new head coach and he gave a press conference that sort of represents the opposite of just like punch in the gut you know raw football this is supposed to be maybe like a nod your kneecap yeah and suvi it this is a little bit more like cook for two days in the analytics sort of style only, dude's not super great at it. In fact, what is his name? His name is Nick Sirianni. Are you familiar with Nick Sirianni? I'm not familiar

with him. I believe he was an assistant coach from somewhere else, probably a highly touted coordinator. That's usually the progression. Gotcha. That makes sense. I don't know much about this person. I've seen his name in print somewhere, but I couldn't tell you anything about him. So if Dan Campbell

is just kind of like it's about going out there and gutting it out and just you know and just being men which was i believe implied not to be overly gendered um nick sirianni believes in systems luke and uh you know he's really good and look coming from me i realize this is a real glass house situation but he's not great at articulating them next thing that's very important

to me is that we build a smart football team that we have a smart football team here and i know we have the the people in place to do that the first part of that the first part of being smart is knowing what to do we're gonna we're gonna know we're gonna have systems in place that are easier to learn all right complicated to the defense or offense that they're going against or the special teams group they're going against but easy for us to learn because when we can put that because we when we can learn our system and we can get good at our system then our talent can take over less thinking equals talent take over but we need to have systems in place and we will have systems

in place to do so now that was at a press conference um and what really gets me no mention

of how many kneecaps ratio though sirianni the the you can this league i mean this league has evolved it's mostly about kneecap biting and if you don't get hip to that nick sirianni you're

gonna get left behind the thing that really kills me and again i don't want to be super cruel here And by the way, this this Adam Lefkoe, which is probably somebody, you know, I only know him from the Levitard show because like an NBA analyst. He's the one who just like took a clip of this, this exact 40 seconds and tweeted it out. And it got a lot of attention. Of course, it was a press conference. Lefkoe says the whole press conference was like this, that he almost chose this clip like somewhat randomly, like it's not even the worst of it. What really gets me in this tape is when you hear him lose his confidence on the S here. Take a listen.

And I know we have the people in place to do that. The first part of that, the first part of being smart is knowing what to do. We're going to have systems. The systems.

That's where I feel like you're not coming back from that.

You can hear it. You could smell the fear, Clarice. I can smell your fear right in that moment. You know that team. This is not where we need to go on a Friday. But if his inability to edit himself in those moments in any way translates to the playbook, they are going to have a far too complicated set of plays for that team. Yes. Because what he's doing there that's not – and again, fully acknowledging that, Andrew, that you and I have had many moments even during this episode of the show where we have not stated things as clearly as we wish we would have. um uh the problem there is that he's he's sort of trying to cover everything he's like we're going to be a team that doesn't have to think because we've already thought so hard about everything and these are going to be simple plays so talent takes over but not simple for the other teams because it's going to be complicated they're not going to know what's happening they're going to be trying to bite knees but we're going to keep our knees high except for the times when your knees are supposed to be low because you want to keep a low center of gravity it's like you have to edit the impulse to cover every eventuality yes yes is there i can't

I don't know what conferences they're in.

Is there a chance that the Eagles could be going up against the Lions? No, I don't think so, right?

I think they're the NFC East, right? And the Lions are probably the NFC North?

But they're both NFC. So we couldn't possibly be looking at an Eagles-Lions Super Bowl next year.

They could play for the NFC Championship, though.

They could, exactly.

And that would be a real clash of cultures.

Let me take this to a place that is very relevant to my life, but completely unrelated and unnecessary, as we should be going to a break here. But also, this idea of systems applies to radio in a little bit, too. And I think of, and I'm not going to use any specific names here, but, you know, if the person I'm kind of sub-podcasting here would hear this, he would know that I disagree with him about this. But, you know, if you think about Cairo Radio, where you have a bunch of people who are just, like, jawing into microphones all day, there are people over there who say you look for, like, you know, a talent, somebody who isn't necessarily going to always paint inside the lines but is just somebody who people gravitate towards and just has this panache right and then there are other people there who think like no no it's a system like all of the shows on you know let's say cairo talk radio are basically the same you just need to train the people and just kind of push them all through the canal like trust the system we sweep the quarter hour and then we do this break and it's news and anybody can do it you just have to slot the right people in there and i feel like that this is like the oh yeah it's just about the system it doesn't matter who's out there because if we have this system down then um everything will come after that what you did there and i uh i disagree with that i think it's about the um personnel are you excited for the super bowl uh in any way shape or form um you know not really it was you know uh sorry you just asked me a simple question i'm not super i'm you know i'm taking i'm not volunteering on sunday i took the day off so that I can watch it. And, of course, Genevieve and I already did one After These Messages podcast about the commercials that have already been released, and we're doing something new this year called The Bullies, where we've created a bunch of categories, and we're going to be awarding bully awards to commercials that win in the various categories. And so that's been a fun project, kind of doing a different approach to our usual Super Bowl coverage, which can kind of be a slog in years past. So I've been kind of enjoying that, but from a sports standpoint, I heard a commercial on the radio the other day. And of course, they can't use the word Super Bowl because it's for a product that's not directly Super Bowl related and they can't cash in on that. But they're using all these different ways to talk around it. And the the spot says something like this is the this is the week that all football fans are waiting for all year. And I don't think that's true because I think most football fans, their teams are already out of it. It's like two teams have been waiting for this all year.

Right. And as the season has progressed, this is what always happens. Fewer and fewer fans have a kind of personal stake in the Super Bowl. And then you watch it because in normal times, it's a fun thing to get together with folks and have some calorically dense food and yell at the TV a little bit or whatever. But it's not. Yeah. Everyone's looking for everybody from Tampa or New England. I'm sorry. Well, that was Freudian. You know what? The reason I was thinking was I heard a piece on Morning Edition today that was just basically like interviewing. It was sort of a bunch of Vox from New England about how those fans feel about Tom Brady succeeding, you know, now as a Tampa Bay Buck. And it was actually a pretty good idea for a story And it was done by a kind of a friend of mine I think a real good reporter, Tovia Smith But there was just like There was two little moments in the piece Where I was like Oh, it didn't ring football true to me

Because yeah, I was going to say Usually I think of Obviously Pesca has contributed a lot to NPR Over the years on that And Tom, I almost said Tom Bossy Who's the other Tom Goldman, is that it? Yeah, doing sports stuff I didn't know that Tovia Smith is ever on that beat

I don't think she is, she just lives in Boston And they probably wanted a piece Again, it wasn't a bad idea for a piece And she got good tape There was one thing too, at the end of the piece though The last person who's interviewed says Essentially, just let's let him have it You know, I didn't like all of the I didn't like all of the people Who hated on Tom Brady when he was a patriot So now I don't want to be a hater So let him win That's the final, it's like a nice little ending to the piece And then the line is So there's nothing like so hell hath no fury like a fan scorned and i'm like no the last piece of tape was a person who had no fury yeah yeah like don't go from the a piece of tape of someone being kind of like zen about it into a statement of hell hath no fury like a fan scorned that does not the last piece of tape does not illustrate the point you just put in the copy i'm like how did this go through this is why my brain was trying to shut my mouth down because it's like not this is not useful

information but i just was like i'll send this podcast to tobia so that she can hear your your

notes the problem with you making that joke is somebody out there will do that okay nobody freaking do that please ever nobody tell on us please who would do that i got a few theories all right let's take a quick break and then we come back uh we will um we'll do our top stories and some music for your weekend because it's a fry yay so stay with us it's tbtl Oh, is this off of Matrimony and Madness?

Yeah, it is. Scythian fate. Am I saying that right? Nope.

Not even a chance.

Scythian?

Scythian, because it's like a scythe. Scythe. Yeah. It's like that big hook you use when you're cutting wheat in the field in the 1600s.

I don't like that word, though. As somebody who's suffered, like, from a lisp or with a lisp, I suffer from or with a lisp. Of both. Scythe is just a terrible word.

Yeah, well, I don't think that that word is usually conjugated that way, meaning of, you know, of something that's based with the scythe or in the world of the scythe. Like, I think they want to say, like, you know, the Grim Reaper is going to come through with their scythe and really, you know, that's your fate. That scythe is coming for you. But it feels like it's conjugating the word into a way where it's no longer recognizable. But I don't like scythe.

I think that's a terrible word. I have to put all of my energy into saying it. I know. I call it Big Scary Blade. Yes, thank you.

And Big Scary Blade Fate is not a bad name for an Australian metal band.

That's right. But this is our classic donor music. We've been using this, of course, for years to thank the donors of the day.

It's such a Mandela effect because for like a month or two, we used Thank You, Baby. Oh, by the Shirelles? Yeah, I mean, we used this, though, for so long. But people still act like People are like Oh when are you going to play Aren't you not playing Thank you baby right now I'm like we haven't for years But they just Misremember it

And like right now People are listening to this And they think it's the Shirelles Weird The human mind is so weird

This doesn't Like completely turn me off The way that Some metal does Like I guess this is Boy Other than maybe video games Like current video games Or finance There's probably nothing I know less about than the sort of different, like, genres of metal. But this is, I can kind of vibe with this. Like, I probably wouldn't put this on, but also it doesn't, it's not ear-splitting to me the way that, like, the Norwegian death metal is that they play at Sizzle Pie here in Portland. That's more like black metal, right? I guess black metal, just something that's just, like, this is kind of, it's pretty musical, you know? And I think people who listen to a lot of metal will tell you that it's very kind of musically rigorous, like, to actually play the drums that fast and play the guitar and sing and do the vocal work. Like, it's very hard music to do a lot of the time. Like, it's challenging more than, like, a pavement song or something, which I kind of respect.

Yeah, kind of. I mean, for the people who like the music, I remember being a kid and making these arguments. Like, people would be like, like, I'm trying to think of who was the guitar player who was known for just Ingve Malmsteen? Malmsteen? Is that what it is? Yeah. Scythian Malmsteen? I hate all of these words. But, like, I remember, like, not being into that kind of music as a much younger kid. Like, you know, seventh grade, eighth grade and getting into arguments. And people would be like, but it would be so hard to do that. John Lennon couldn't do that. I'd be like, who cares? like what if I can type super fast it doesn't mean I want to listen to the clacking of a typewriter having said that you know I did go through my I actually had a moment recently I'll try to keep this short I am so I did have nowhere to be today by the way so

we could we could we could really deliver a Scythian fate to the listeners here by going three hours oh no the next

song is echoes of the Pharisee and that was my music for your weekend I can pick something else but But so I went through, like, a little Metallica phase, like a lot of kids do, you know, or high schoolers. And so in the past year or so, I think I even went back and listened to some Master of Puppets. I was just, like, in the mood for it. There's some nostalgia mixed in there. And, yeah, the sound did, you know, it brought me joy. And I'd forgotten that I would like something that is, you know, so outside of what I usually listen to. But then cut to about two months ago. I'm leaving the grocery store. I park in an underground garage below the grocery store, and there is a Slayer, like a graffiti. Somebody took a yellow spray can and wrote Slayer in kind of the classic Slayer font, and I just thought, oh, that's a cool photo. You know, just kind of like, boy, what an icon. What an iconic, like, just font. Oh, God. I got to stop this.

Yeah, that one, that's going.

more towards sizzle pie yeah let's get which for people that don't know what i'm talking about very quickly there is in fact i can literally see it from right here andrew i got eyes on it and it's like a pizza joint and they make good pizza and they have a little bar you can sit at and i used to in the before times want to go there after live wire it's like perfect and yet the music was so aggressively angry that i would just have to get the pizza to go and just sit in my hotel room because i could not stand i mean i i wanted to like email the not to get people in trouble but just to get whoever's like owns the company to know that you're actively driving people away

with this music i mean like i'm kind of used to it at um now that things are big marios like big

marios yeah like what's with the pizza places and the death metal i don't know but i mean i think

i think that the truth is like there are a lot of places to get pizza so you know this probably attracts a certain crowd they probably are not losing a lot of people over it um because you know what i mean like it people who don't like that atmosphere can get pizza somewhere else

probably i guess i mean um i don't like it and so of course that's very central to my experience but maybe you're right anyway i'm sorry i jumped in you were saying that you revisited some

metallica and then no that is so well i did revisit some metallica a while back the other day i'm in the um in this parking garage and i see the slayer thing and i don't know anything about slayer i only know their kind of iconography i take a photo of it and i post it to instagram uh because it was kind of a neat coloring and it's just kind of a neat photo and then i get in my car and i just have about i don't know five blocks to drive i was coming back from somewhere and i uh and i i'm like well let me just hear slayer what would what does slayer sound like So I put on whatever the most recommended album is, and I put on the first song. I can't remember what it is. It might have been the song Angel of Death. I'm looking at it here from the album Rain in Blood. So this is what we're dealing with here. So it's a subtle album. Yeah. So it begins, and I like the sound of it. It takes me to, I'm like, oh, yeah, again, I wouldn't listen to this. I wouldn't put this on a party playlist. But me and my little blue Volkswagen hatchback right now listening to this Slayer and just like listening to this double bass drum and you know it was working for me and i'm listening to and i can't really i'm not much of a lyrics guy and i'm listening to it and then i hear something about like white power or the no the what the white race or something i swear it was like the white race and i'm like what oh and so guilty of being white no that wasn't the song anyway so i so i i i continue to listen i back it up and i listen to it again i start saying out loud because i'm driving here i start saying out loud okay google is slayer racist or like i start asking my i start like i start saying hey gorgle hey gorgle is is whites is our slayer white supremacists i'm like trying to figure it out while i'm driving because i'm just so shocked i pull over uh outside my apartment with a car full of groceries but before i get out i'd like i start googling because i didn't know that that was there was a connection there and it turns out like i stumbled on this article that was i don't know about a year or two old that just talked about all the problematic tieovers between white supremacy and a lot of these um metal bands which maybe is just not shocking to people but i was always like if people are just kind of like wearing slayer t-shirts there's not a link to white supremacy there well it turns out the s in slayer that icon is actually inspired by like nazi iconography yes like i was like so obvious but that was also so shocked i mean it was literally if i was wearing pearls i would have clutched them I can't remember a time when maybe something was there in front of me the whole time. And so I immediately deleted my photo. I'm like, I'm not putting even somebody else's graffiti. Like, I'm not celebrating that shit.

Well, this is where I'm going to take what was actually an interesting story by you and one that I don't think anyone can have a negative opinion of and turn it into something that not only will the listeners not like, but you won't like, Andrew. I think you don't like when I start talking about music this way. But it feels to me like a band that has put out such albums as Show No Mercy, Hell Awaits, Rain in Blood, South of Heaven, Seasons in the Abyss, Divine Intervention, Undisputed Attitude, God Hates Us All, and Christ Illusion, and World Painted in Blood, and Repentless. I don't know if everything's emotionally okay like and I know that people would like to say no it's just words and they're just they're unrelated to reality but it's like there is something about just writing about the dismembering of people and how you're going to just destroy everyone that feels nihilistic to me and I just I guess I'm kind of like maybe there is some there there with at least the band Slayer

you mean that they are not well themselves that there is some mental I mean well I don't know if I'd call it

mental illness what i'm just saying is if somebody is writing songs that are just about how they're going to kill everyone you could say it's art and it's a meta statement but i just find it unpleasant and i find it not shocking that the same person who's just writing all these lyrics about harming other people is someone who may hold some harmful beliefs it's one of those things like how much smoke does there need to be coming out of this fire yeah like well and that's

where and see for me like some of the imagery i i'm not disagreeing with you um but i could see like some of the imagery people being like these are characters that we play and i i think that Slayer kind of like tried to walk that line, too. But I believe it was the guy from Pantera here. I'm going to be slandering. But I'm pretty sure like this article really focused on Pantera and how like just out in the open, like at live concerts, we'll say things and like raise his hand in the air and not unlike Nazi salutes and say things about the the joys of being white, like not even like masking it, just like being on stage and like basically turning Pantera parts of Pantera shows into moments of white supremacy in front of a mostly white crowd. like just like scary scary shit and um like for it to be i could see like some of this like heaven and hell end of days like kind of people just slipping this on and being somewhat fascinated by it um and you know especially as a young kid maybe like being attracted to this stuff because it seems so it seems so naughty and and what have you but when it's like this real world like Like, just straight up, like, race, I don't know, I don't know what the right word is, but just straight up white power and calling for white power and celebrating white power. Like, that is definitely a leap from just scary imagery. Do the Shirelles cover any Slayer songs? Let me take a look here. That we can use. They did the Pantera song, Thank You, Baby. Do you want to do that one? Oh, yes. Listen to this.

I would love, okay, let's see how this is. I like it, this is a fun play on that song Ooh, there's that double bass

This is when Danzig starts singing, right? Oh man, I did go through a Danzig phase, man I had big misfits, Samhain guy

Let's thank some donors of the day We don't know what their musical taste is But we know that they are incredibly generous And that they love TBTL Or they forgot that they've been donating to the show for years One of the two things is true Honestly, it's not that important to us which one Just that you help keep the show going Robbie Cowan of New York, New York How about Jeannie McMacken of Port Townsend, Washington My pal Jeannie McMacken Who I believe either has Or at one point Andrew was looking into Renting out an office in the post office building Where I was once doing this show from I think Jeannie might have been the one who hipped us to Annie Pruse living in Port Towns

Oh, just the other day

Jeannie's our eyes on the ground there in PT, the small maritime village of Thanks Jeannie Beth Middlehoven is in Renton, Washington monitoring things there for us, just please tell us anything that happens with the VMAC The Seahawks look like they're acquiring new players who are meaningful, will you just hit us up Beth? If you could just kind of post up at the VMAC that would be helpful Mike Wren is in Look at this Andrew Coincidence or not And I've already forgotten Albany

I think we say Albany, New York And of course we had Albany, Oregon yesterday

On the subject of coincidences Today on my little jog I was listening to This American Life And it was actually I guess a rebroadcast Andrew of a show from 2013 But it was being hosted by Sarah Koenig And it was About coincidences It was very Very entertaining I'm tempted to tell you About the coincidences later in the show But that would ruin it So I would just say it's a fun show to listen to And I was very engaged with it Because of course of late I have been weirding out On the coincidences

I loved the opening story Without giving anything away about the kids With the little parachute toy

Oh, this isn't ruining anything How shocked were you to learn that those are called Poopa Troopers

That was such a fun part of the interview

I thought I was mishearing it And then what's also funny is that I think there's something called Koopa Troopers That are in Mario, right? The Mario world Poopa Troopers is such a weird name For those little plastic parachute men But anyway, yeah I would recommend that coincidences episode Also, it's a coincidence that we've had back-to-back albanese um but uh i guess it just is what it is the oh by the way this is also not giving anything away but one of the things they talk about in that episode is that and this is from i guess like a social science perspective we tend to overestimate how coincidental things are that happen to us which kind of makes sense i mean we're

Most of us are centering ourselves in every story. So if a coincidence happens to a person, they think it's really crazy. But if it happens to someone else, they're like, yeah, but I could see how that would happen.

Yeah. Yep.

And they have this young woman who's 16 and her grandmother. And her grandmother is like a major – is always talking about coincidences. And then the young woman has a coincidence and the grandmother is very dismissive of it. And they get them both on the phone. That's great. And it's really good. It was very good radio. Also, we want to thank Lori Brannan of North Lakewood, Washington. I didn't know there was a North Lakewood, Washington. I'm familiar with Lakewood. Did not know about North Lakewood. Thank you, Lori, for the donation. And then Eric Hamilton is in Walla Walla, Washington. That should be a Jeopardy answer or a Jeopardy question. I've been watching a lot of Jeopardy lately.

Is it still KenGen? Like, who's hosting this week?

Well, you know what? I'm not even watching the KenGen episodes yet. I'm saving those. I am still working through Alex Trebek World.

Oh, okay

Because I wasn't watching it When I was living in Bellingham I wasn't watching Jeopardy every single night I sort of fell behind So I still have some number of months This is weird And I hope not prophetic But sort of like the way That people are completists with TBTL And they want to go back I want to watch all of the Alex Trebek episodes And then watch the final one And then have a good cry And then so I've watched the first Ken Jen Maybe the first two Ken Jen episodes Just because I wanted to see how he was doing I thought he was doing very well Now I've hit pause on that Yeah And I'm going back and working my way forward chronologically So anyway Where was I going with that? I guess it doesn't matter

You were going to say Walla Walla Washington Would be a good question

Like a Jeopardy question would be like This city This city has the same first two letters In both parts of his name as the state Oh yeah that's good because um the final jeopardy question the other day as i was watching it was let's see if you can get i was nowhere near getting this andrew and i'm gonna say the question or the answer wrong whatever it is i'm gonna say the part of it that that is setting you up wrong and so it's gonna make it even harder but this is a state whose capital the last four letters of the state's name are the same four letters that start the name of the state capitol oh goodness no right really bad at uh capitals real as a that's a real melon scratcher old sexy sexy flanders

um don't no pressure to get it because uh fornia sacramento fornia sacramento famously yep did i get it get it and you don't give yourself enough credit let's see here so wait

The last four letters of the name of the state comprise the first four letters of the capital of the state.

Oh, my gosh. I really. Okay. Let me do this. I'm sorry. Let me just call up a list of state names. Okay. I'm not going to look up.

While you're doing that, I just want to say thank you to our donors of the day. In particular, Eric Hamilton for checking in from Walla Walla, Washington Because that got us on this topic Which will now completely obliterate The top stories, probably But anyway, thank you to our donors of the day Thanks for making the show possible Yeah, what are you going to do? Pull up a list of states?

I'm looking at all the United States You know there's 50 of these things now? Hmm And I'm just looking at the last four letters of all of them And seeing

I can't remember who put this on Twitter the other day But it was You know how there's a – I think there's a very legitimate case for making Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico U.S. states for the reasons that are pretty, I think, kind of manifest. But somebody wrote, oh, man, the Republicans just said the quiet part loud, and there's like a picture of McConnell in the well of the Senate. And he's like, we cannot make Washington, D.C. a state. And then I'm thinking, oh, man, they've got him. He's probably just saying because we know that Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico, those will be places that will reliably go democratic. And so da-da-da-da. And then he goes, Sufjan is already – the next picture is him saying Sufjan is already so behind in his project. We cannot put another state on his plate.

It was so genius.

It was 100 percent not what I was expecting.

Oh, no, it's not Hawaii. I don't know my capitals well enough. So even cheating by looking at these –

It's a super obscure – how about I will narrow it down to a region. It's in the northeast. In the northeast. So Hawaii.

Yeah.

You got it again. Dang. It's in the – it's not even – it's like the northeast of the northeast. We're not talking New York. We're talking way up there.

Well, New Hampshire is obviously conquered. Vermont. Oh, Vermont! Montpelier, right, of course. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, again, I was... I wish I could have gotten there. Damn it.

Dude, I was so nowhere within a million miles of the right answer either. But that's kind of a fun little fact, right? It is, yeah.

Montpelier. Yes, okay, good. Yeah, got there.

Hello and welcome to Top Story. The first Top Story about the new head of Amazon loving hot wings. I just had one question for you, Andrew. There's a nice little story in the Puget Sound. Actually, sorry, it was in Eater, but it referenced the Puget Sound Business Journal a lot. The piece in Eater was by Gabe Guarante. In true tech bro fashion, soon to be Amazon CEO Andy Jassy loves a wing eating contest. And they go on to talk about how Andy Jassy has very into this, at least the thing that used to happen, probably when Amazon was a slightly smaller operation in Seattle, where they would go to the Wing Dome in Greenwood, which Camaro Kev and I have been to countless times. It's one of his favorite spots. It's in what used to be an auto mechanic shop because I'm old enough to remember when it was an auto mechanic shop. And when it became a wing dome, I thought that will never succeed. Who even wants to eat hot wings? And it's, of course, very popular, which shows you that I have the worst instincts for business. But anyway, they used to go up there and have these wing eating contests, and they go on to write about it in here. The part that kind of piqued my interest and what I wanted to ask you was they mentioned that Andy Jassy is very proud of the fact that he's apparently won this contest a time or two, and his record was 25 hot wings. And I thought that seemed pretty low. I feel like I could eat 25 hot wings. Do you think you could?

Yes. That seems like a low number. It doesn't seem like that much. So here are the things that attracted me to this article, too, is Wingstop is, like, kind of iconic around here. It's Wingdome. Or Wingdome, rather. Go on Wingdome NW to find the real Wingdome. And I used to pass it all the time, and I knew that it was, like, a special place for people. And, like, I'm one of those people who, when we order a pizza here, often I'll get wings as a side. And that's fine, and that's good, and I love wings. But, like, I grew up thinking that wings were special. Like, I grew up in the 80s before wings were everywhere. I think they were, you know, kind of fad-y and fatty, depending, but fad-y. Not the worst, though, by the way, on the fatty tip. Just why? And my dad and I would, like, kind of make special treks to a special wing bar. He didn't even drink, and I was, like, 14. But we would, like, make special trips to this. You drank heavily, though. Yes. And that's what I'm saying. I was 14. I need to take the edge off. And, you know, like, it was a thing, you know, like, and that's one thing that I have not really celebrated a lot lately is like having a wing night like specifically a wing night now i've gotten takeout from the wing dome especially during the pandemic we were getting delivery from them a lot um genevieve's brother is very into the wing dome so he gave us our inaugural wing dome meal but again it was takeout i believe during a football game or something and um i have been so interested for so long in just going to the wing dome and making a deal of it and and i think me and camaro and our frank katie were like kind of planning on doing that before the pandemic hit and i want to go to there so much i love people celebrating like yes this is a special wing night having said that i'm not into eating contests that seems like it would ruin it to me like i would not want to go with a bunch of co-workers to a place for a wing eating contest but i feel like people are kind of using this to drag this jassy guy a little bit like what a tech bro and i'm like really is that Is that really a problem that he likes to You know do activities around Wings like I wouldn't want to go in For the contest part of it But like I don't think it's really that much of a ding Against him A ding against him

And the other thing they cite in the article is that he has like Built out his basement to be like a full on Sports bar and he says because he wants it to be Like if you're there watching the game like you're really at a sports bar I was like you know if I had the dough I might go for that the other thing is If you want to really talk about what tech bro culture is now It's eating soylent green or soylent, I should say. I don't think that they do the green part of it. But it's like the ultimate tech bro thing is Jack Dorsey intermittent fasting for weeks on end. That's where the tech bros are at now. Like, you know, it's sort of quaint, the idea of people getting together and eating a bunch of wings. My thing with hot wings has always been, although funnily enough, I will be on national TV on Sunday eating a Cajun chicken wing, the greatest Cajun niblet I've ever had. These are the best Cajun chicken niblets I've ever had. Because I have that story airing about football food with the guy that used to play in the NFL, Eddie Jackson. But my thing with wings, even when I was a meat eater, was... The investment of time and energy – I mean, first of all, I didn't like the – I didn't love the getting messy part, which I think you and I share that kind of – like I don't like having a bunch of sauce on my face.

Literally one napkin per wing is what I need. And I know that sounds excessive, but that's what it takes if it's got any kind of like sauce on it, if it's not more of a dry, rubby kind of thing.

But it's also just a lot of like it's a lot of work because what you're eating is a part of the of the bird that was for a long time, I think, considered kind of like throwaway or not particularly not worth it. And then, you know, famously that bar in Buffalo, Pete's Anchor Bar thought, what do we throw these in some like Frank's Red Hot type stuff? And people liked them. And I have no problem with people enjoying that. But for me, it's always been like the – and then the other thing is they have to be really crispy for me. Like I do not like them being even a little bit slimy, which happens too frequently. So, I mean, honestly, like for me, if I were a meat eater and we were at Wing Dome, I would just get a bunch of basically boneless wings, which is just chicken strips, which I know is very like – makes me – like a sixth grader or something in my palate. But that's because what I really want is I like that spicy sauce. I like some ranch and I friggin love the celery. Like I really geek out on the celery. So that's really what I want to for me personally get into. The wings themselves are fine. But for me, it's never been something I've really understood the obsession over.

Yeah, for me, I mean, I think that the working for it is maybe part of it. And like I say, like it is connected to these, you know, memories of my youth and kind of celebrating it and being very excited about this sort of new kind of food. And so I don't mind like the working at it is I do hate. I mean, this is hard to like kind of hold both of these ideas in your head at the same time. I don't like the mess. I am constantly wiping my face like I will pause in the middle to go wash my hands and then come back and eat more chicken, which makes no sense at all. but I do not like the sense of where the grease starts sticking to your face too much and the napkin doesn't even...

It doesn't help that you look over and it's literally like a bone yard. It's like, well, hey, did Sauron come through here? Actually, it's a bad example. Who's the dragon in Lodr? Did the Scythian... Yes, exactly. Was there a Scythian reckoning? I still said it wrong. Well, I don't know how you say that word, Andrew. I don't even know if it's a real word. So don't beat yourself up But I said Scythian Well the C is like if you say Scythe Right My assumption is if you're going to say Something that is related to a Scythe It would be Scythian Yeah I'm not going to say that anymore But you know what I mean When you look over and you just see a pile of bones And you're covered in grease and hot stuff You feel pretty carnivorous That's about as carnivorous as one's going to feel in normal life

I did love moving to this neighborhood because there are a couple of places to get wings here. The Westie, which is my Browns bar, does have wings. But to me, it's not like the wings experience of like going to like kind of a divey bar. Like they have them. They're fine. Frankly, the Westie, who, you know, I appreciate that place for what it is. But it's one of those places that just thinks it's a little bit better than it is food wise. Like they change up their menu and they really like they really put a lot of pride in their food, which I think is always a little bit overthought, if that makes sense, because they're whatever. But there's another bar around here that's going to be torn down pretty soon, I think, called the Atlantic Crossing. And that's more of a kind of standard kind of dive bar. It's also like a soccer bar. But when things reopen a little bit more around here, I will look forward to going there, like probably on a day like today, like a Friday when I get my work done, maybe in the late afternoon. And I can go have like a late lunch, early dinner, just like a huge plate of hot wings and waffle fries and a couple of Coors Lights in a bottle. Damn, that's a special day.

everything i'm not saying anything original here but so many things that were just not you know just a blip on our sort of mental radar of how our life looked and felt so many of those things are now just like i'm gonna cry the first time i do them yeah you know yeah like sitting at the baseball field with you watching a game that is going to be literally an emotional experience for me because it's just you know i mean a it's fun anyway but speaking of sporting events i will tell you andrew i did this tv story that i have going this weekend um there had been some adjustments in the script we were going back and forth and the producer had written a line in that was like something about you know this is the ideal kind of food for the big game and i was like i emailed back immediately i was like i think we have the rights to say super bowl right like we're cbs the game is on cbs can we go with super bowl i was like i can't i'm gonna get roasted by my Friends if I call it the big game I can Never unless legally I have to I have To call it the Super Bowl and it Turns out we are allowed to call it

Because you're a journalistic Enterprise I think that that rule has Gotten a little bit twisted

Like, I was describing a promo that I heard for, like, some company that is not an official Super Bowl-related company, and they're, like, you know, it's probably one of those glorified sports. Come down to our casino, there's going to be a drawing for the big game. You can't use Super Bowl to advertise your other services. But if you're, like, on our show right now talking about it or even after these messages talking about Super Bowl commercials or – pardon me. Did you hear that death rattle? Did you hear that Scythian rattle? Wow.

Scythian rattle. Well, that's the band I can get behind.

OK, I'll write that down as a show title. Also, I finally said it right. But yeah, I mean, if CBS told you, oh, we're not allowed to acknowledge the fact that there's this thing called the Super Bowl because that's a rights infringement, that would that would make me so angry.

That's a really good point. I hadn't even thought of that. I have for so long not considered myself to be a journalist because mostly what I do is, whatever this is, infotainment or something, that you're right. I mean, I think we probably have fair use, even if we don't work for CBS, to call a thing what it's actually called. um uh speaking of calling things what they are man mike lindell the my pillow guy is really um he's really just putting it all out there he's got a documentary out that apparently sums up the uh what he sees of as sees as being the voter fraud that that was perpetrated against the american people as i were i a journalist and were i on npr i would say the baseless claims of voter fraud um but uh this uh group but since you're not an npr you'll say the well-founded claims of voter fraud i'll say a lot of people are saying and very strongly that this election was stolen i think i saw our friend the stew bot tweeting this out and uh the the it originally comes from something called right wing watch and it says allow us to save you the trouble of watching mike lindell's voter fraud documentary as it can all basically be summed up in this one clip and i thought i was going to see uh him just like saying stuff that was crazy and unhinged it's not even that it's just it's just it's just a it's a word salad and it um well i'll just play

it for you here take a listen to this um this is the biggest thing against humanity in our country is this attack through these machines. They got this opened up, this revealed the machines to where we're at right now. So what you're going to watch during this show is 100% proof that the big thing was the theft by these other countries that came in to attack our country through these machines that are made to steal elections. Every election going forward in history, if these things would have happened,

these two and we wouldn't we would have never known let me mention that he's sitting at a desk kind of like a very sort of official looking almost like a desk if you were in a like if you were a general and you were like leading you know a sort of military operation but it's in this kind of all black room with these big screens behind him that are showing alleged evidence i want to also mention that this is part of the quote-unquote documentary he recorded this then watched it and

then thought yeah that's the take yeah this is good every single vote you would have ever made wouldn't have mattered somebody else would have made that vote and we've all seen in this past month you think it was a communist coming in and taking this over with oh my gosh andrew

this they cut to none of this is edited i don't believe any of this is edited by right wing watch it's i think it's edited by mike lindell's people this was them trying to make him as coherent as

possible i was going to ask because i heard a big edit in there and i thought that maybe the the journalists who or whatever the the people who put this out were trying to make it seem even more

incoherent i have not seen any um indication of that i believe that this is the mike lindell people trying to stitch together what he said and make it sound sort of more uh like like it's words that add up to any kind of meaningful message but they cut to the video you know the the mike lindell people when he says communism they cut to like a basically some like stock photo of a hammer and sickle being held up into the air kind of in the sort of like russian flag

sort of way sickle also known as i was going to say is it a sickle or a scythe what is happening

today what well here this is an attack not only on other those other countries with communism but they had domestic traitors right here in our country whatever's going on right now we're seeing it they're suppressing cancel culture they're trying to cut to a like animation they're suppressing cancel culture andrew

And in order to illustrate this, whoever edited this, and again, I keep trying to differentiate between right wing watch and the Lindell people. The Lindell people took like an animation of like a wooden kind of stamp that like a king would have in Game of Thrones. Like that you stamp it into wax. Yeah, kind of thing. But that but it just says canceled. And it's just stamping that on a blank white screen.

Cancel us all out. I just seen churches, the Christian churches, they're being attacked right now. people on social media anyone that speaks up they're going i believe our friend stew said

something like and i seen is just vintage and he says i think carver county which i'm gonna assume is a place in minnesota where you might find somebody saying i just i seen i seen what

happened the christian churches they're being attacked right now people on social media anyone that speaks up they're going you can't say that you're gone it's like they're right now they're

doing whack-a-mole because they know by the way cut to a clip of someone playing whack-a-mole really which is very unsettling because you don't know what it is it's from the side and it's just these weird blobs it takes your brain like two seconds to figure out that this is somebody this is the crotch level shot of somebody playing whack-a-mole um and uh anyway they knew they

were so close so close that we would never know in history what happened but guess what now we do

know so there you go andrew now we do know that was one minute and 23 seconds from the mike lindell

documentary you didn't you cut that off early because i was watching the same tape and then

he goes on to say the people in place to do that the first part of that the first part of being smart is knowing what to do we're gonna we're gonna know we're gonna have systems in yeah oh that's how it is losing it did you see uh not i don't want to take this to an even more polarizing place although honestly if this is polarizing for someone this is a listener this is not the podcast for you you don't get the show but did you see uh david hogg one of the parkland survivors is apparently starting a pillow company uh that i saw that yeah that's that i think intended obviously to rival my pillow and as i wrote on twitter make him out of barbed wire for all i care i'm buying 20 like honestly like if if i'm my choice between a company that's uh that's run by a parkland survivor and uh that guy uh i'm going uh i'm going barbed wire all right it is a friday so we should do a little music for your weekend before we uh skedaddle uh what do you uh

what do you want to play for the listeners this week andrew what is that drop that you play sometime of is it julie snyder saying i am so excited about this show it's sarah kanig second sarah kanig reference but good call somehow i always so excited for this song julie snyder i don't know why um but i'm so excited about this show i am so excited it is beautiful about a plot that goes in fascinating directions this song it is weird it is beautiful it has notes that go in interesting directions um last night i was supposed to be writing the newsletter but i just found myself kind of derping around the internet and sitting here and stalling and going down weird rabbit holes. And the whole time I was listening to my new Sirius radio subscription, which I got a new trial membership just for owning a V-dub. I got three more months of this sweetness. And so I dialed it up. I downloaded the app onto my computer and I'm listening to, what is it, Little Stevie's Underground Garage station?

Sure. Stevie Van Zandt station. Yes. That's a good one, man.

Exactly. And the woman, I can't remember. Silvio. The name of the DJ, I also knew her from K-Rock, actually, from my time in L.A. But anyway, so she's spinning a lot of tunes, and this one song comes on, and it's by a group called the Butterflies, and it's like what we call a girl group, right, from the 1960s, and I loved it. And then I went on this little journey. I'm like, well, who are the Butterflies? By the way, the butterflies spelled wrong, spelled incorrectly, flies spelled F-L-Y-S, not I-E-S. So it's kind of easy to Google them, except there's not tons about them. They only released four songs on Redbird Records, and it sounds like some of these people were, I don't know, refugees is too strong of a word, but had worked with Phil Spector in the past, but then were striking out on their own after, you'll be surprised to hear this, some ugliness. And they released basically two singles, and each one had a B-side. So I think there's four songs attributed to their name. The B-side's not so great. I love both of the singles. This one is called Goodnight Baby. And, again, it's classic girl group from the 60s. I don't know why I love this one.

so much in particular, I'm going to play it for you, and then I'm going to tell you one little bit of sad news that I learned after really rabbit-holing on this. Take a listen to this, Goodnight Baby by The Butterflies.

One kiss can lead to another And baby, you know they always do So I gotta go now Better go home now Cause I don't want my folks mad at you Good night, baby, baby, baby, good night Kiss me again and hold me tight Good night, baby, baby, baby Sleep time I'll be standing there at my window Watching you till you're out of sight Then I'll lay my head on my pillow And dream about the things we did tonight But I gotta go now There it is, Goodnight Baby by the Butterflies.

That's good, man. I am so in love with this. I listened to this like ten times last night and listened to some of their other stuff, too. The thing is, you can tell this isn't the best recording in the world. It's from a 45 record that I downloaded from YouTube. and I actually downloaded all four of their songs just to have them because these things are not circulated much. I actually am on the Discog's website. I actually have this 45 now in my cart. I'm considering buying this on 45. And I don't know why I'm super possessing this song that is heard for the first time I thought last night. But one thing that as I was poking around, I'm like, well, this must be on a compilation disc somewhere. Like this must exist. i found the song on one cd and it's a girl group compilation cd and as soon as i saw the cover i'm like i have that cd i bought that in la at amoeba records i don't usually buy compilations but i saw it it was relatively cheap i threw it in my car and i listened to it every now and then but i didn't really you know it's a compilation so i didn't really none of the songs actually really stuck to me or stuck out in my memory i go over to my cd case last night i'm looking all over for it i of course have a compilation section near the bottom and it's not in my compilation section and it's driving me crazy where is the cd and then i remember i got rid of it i got rid of some cds when i was moving from wallingford to roosevelt and i don't know why i must have just been like well this is a compilation i don't value compilations that much i didn't listen to it much this one is an easy one i can just like donate it to goodwill or whatever i'm pretty sure that's what happened and the bummer of the news is when you look at that cd online it's selling on amazon for 133 dollars oh no are you you're an idiot for like because what i saved so much room i have so much blank space on my cd shelf like i'm such an idiot i am you know that

You know that this is a story that's going to launch a thousand hordes. Right. Because it's exactly the weird fear in the back of our brain when we're throwing or donating anything, parting with something. It's like, yeah, but what if I really want to listen to this later? And 99.99999% of the time, that time never comes. And this is the one. I mean, putting aside the monetary value, which is crazy. Never. For a compilation.

It's just a CD compilation of girl groups. There must be something somewhat rare about it. Like I said, I can't find this group, the Butterflies. You can only find them on 45 mostly. So, you know, it's just had some tracks on.

You're never throwing another CD out for the rest of your life.

I mean, my NPR Holidays Story CD from 2001 that I was about to throw away. I guess I'm keeping that.

All that Putumayo that you have sitting around from the radio station with the notches in the spine of the CD. Oh man well that's a great song I'm sorry to hear I guess maybe the way to look at it is You released That CD into the world like a butterfly And hopefully somebody else picked it up And they're listening to it somewhere And they're enjoying it And it's expanding the legacy of these bands Many of whom were done dirty by producers and the the music system the uh you know the music industry yeah i um you

know i would even feel a little bit better about it if i if i had like you know sold it in a group to like amoeba records or something and thought well another collector will find this but you know you know how cd bins are at goodwill you know i'm sure it was just picked over i'm sure it's just like got cracked under somebody's tire you know what in a parking lot somewhere right

No, it's hanging from a tree somewhere, distracting a bird.

What is that? Oh, is that what happens when your car got? Oh, no, no, no.

No, no, in cherry trees and fruit trees, when you don't want birds to come in and pick the fruit, people will hang CDs because they're mirrors and they glint the sunlight. They reflect the sunlight back and it's kind of sparkly and it kind of turns. At least the thought is it sort of turns birds off. Oh, no, I had never seen that before. Would that be a reasonable second act For this $130 CD

To be making birds' lives More miserable I don't think Genevieve would be

To be making fruit tree owners' lives more happy

Oh, that's true too I don't know, I'm on the fence, clearly I'm sorry, dude

That's a painful story

It doesn't really I mean, I'm not as upset about it

All the chicken wings Oh, the guy who sides with birds Also can't wait to eat chicken wings

Interesting But not cherries um i uh yeah you know i i'm not as like listen c'est la vie right on this one it was the i wasn't gonna sell it i wasn't gonna find out that it was worth 133 dollars and then sell this thing and also that might have just been a glitch you know like in the supply demand of this particular thing on a particular day um it's just like in that moment of like discovering something and just like really falling for this band suddenly and feeling like i know i heard it on serious radio But feeling like wait this group only released Four songs and I love Two of them like just the whole story And then wait this has been sitting on my shelf All along no It went to Ballard Anyway well

Somehow you and I Andrew Even though we're now separated by State boundaries And a Variety of other things including Your love of death metal and the band Slayer and my well founded suspicions even though we're separated by all those things we were in complete brain alignment on songs because i picked a song at random this week by a band called habibi that is kind of a combo of they're a band from brooklyn uh they are a much more recent vintage than the butterflies uh in fact they're still a going operation but they're some of the members are from detroit and uh they met up and they sort of bonded over a love this is what wikipedia tells me of uh kind of garage rock sort of detroit garage sound with girl group harmonies there you go so it's very yeah this is and i was gonna pull it because of but you know maybe we'll just make it a theme no i love that

i mean one's one's a modern band inspired by this stuff i love that synergy

all right well so are you able to play this yeah i gotta hear mere plays this is a song angelized by the band habibi

We'll see you next time. Oh, angel I, oh, angel I Yeah, his honey-colored eyes Do me like the morning sun When he looks my way Feels like summer's just begun Yeah, he has a tender tone Seems he's always been alone But his eyes have more to say Every time they look my way Oh, angel eyes Oh, angel eyes

Oh, angel eyes Oh, angel eyes

All right, so that's a little... When it's one of these songs by a band that sort of goes with a garage rock or slightly punk aesthetic, you can only play like a minute of it or else you just end up playing the whole song. Yeah, right. Because all these songs are always like two minutes, one minute 58.

Of course, this one actually is almost five minutes long. Oh, really? But the other one I had was like, yeah, I'd probably let it play a little bit too long because it just gets into a...

You know a pattern but anyway I love this so much man This is I put it in like god damn Veins I'm gonna listen to this record later Yeah the record's really good this was actually The third most streamed song On the album so You could say it's sort of A b-side for them but it was the one that really spoke To me but yeah the whole album I was listening to it this morning is really good so that's Habibi and now we Have our listener suggestion which is Coming to us from listener Colin uh he says uh this is a couple of years old but it has some chill neo-80s vibes and some slightly prince-ish vocals towards the end um he mentions it's a bit of a slow starter so you may want to cue it up to about 20 seconds or i could just talk over the first 20 seconds andrew but it's from a band called video age which i was doing a little sleuthing they're from new orleans They've been around it looks like since around 2016 or that's when we started putting out Albums it's a guy named Ross and a guy Named Ray and this particular Track is called hold on I was wrong and I'm kind of into it I'm into this I don't know exactly how I would describe this Jean but it's Something that I really Like it's kind of Well just listen to it for yourself it's kind of soulful It's kind of nice on a Friday And it's how we're going to wrap up the broadcast week so thanks for listening everyone we'll be right back here on Monday with more of this imaginary radio for you until then stay safe take care of yourselves have a great weekend mask up and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

Oh, I never want to leave it unsaid again No, there's diamonds underneath it How can I pretend? Tonight I'm feeling more What I've been waiting for Hold on I was wrong Yeah It's all I want Hold on Power out.