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TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

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from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

February 23, 2021 | 01:11:12 | Leisure, Comedy

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A story about scary robot dogs leads Andrew to admit to one of his weirder internet proclivities. He and Luke also discuss Jim Nabors at great length for some reason.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:12 | Speaker 7:

Your Honor, this guy has been making bootleg Simpsons merchandise. Bart Scampson. He is quite a scam. Scampson. Bart Scampson.

00:00:12 - 00:00:28 | Speaker 6:

Ska? Like the music? Ska? Ska. Ska. I can start with scamp misspelled. You don't know ska? In all your education you've got to go to law school and everything and judge school or whatever it is you go to and you don't know the word ska? Welcome to America, friend.

00:00:29 - 00:00:35 | Speaker 7:

I do not have a problem in general with bootleg Simpsons merchandise but this is the worst pun ever. It's a thinker, you've got to think about it.

00:00:37 - 00:01:02 | Speaker 2:

TBTL For the next little while it's going to be you and me together alone. I want you to lock the door and turn the phone off and really concentrate on what we're going to do. Who do you see when you look in the mirror? Daffy Duck. I have a picture of him taped to my mirror. Okay, what do you see next to Daffy Duck? Ryan Gosling. Hey, Lloyd! Do some delivery for the truck to the airport!

00:01:02 - 00:01:09 | Speaker 5:

I'm sorry, but when I hear an undeserved compliment, it makes my ears want to throw up. Oh, your ears are always throwing up about something.

00:01:09 - 00:01:14 | Speaker 1:

We'll walk that fine line between cutting-edge irreverence and trouble with the Federal Communications Commission.

00:01:15 - 00:01:35 | Speaker 4:

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Tuesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. You paint your bald spot? One bald spot. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host, coming to you from the Nest Broadcast Center, high in the sky. Above Portland, Oregon.

00:01:35 - 00:01:37 | Speaker 2:

There's a Hidden Rally Ranch party in my mouth.

00:01:38 - 00:03:07 | Speaker 4:

We're enjoying some dry weather at the moment. Actually, kind of a nice morning. And yet, there is a 90% chance of me winging one Andy Rooney-style on this episode of the show. I consider myself to be an absolutely dead center, normal, average American. I've got some issues with the behavior of some of the people living in this apartment building that I live in. And I don't care who knows it. So that'll probably come up conversationally on the show. Also, maybe the fact that I got a whole situation going on with my coffee maker. Put that coffee down. I keep throwing out a key component of my coffee maker. I've now done it twice. And it's affected the whole operation, which maybe I'll explain that too coming up. Oh, by the way, it's episode 3365 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Welcome to the tens of listeners and the occasional Tony Kornheiser refugee. All are welcome here at TBTL Land. Everyone except Scary Robots, an art collective ponied up the $75,000 to buy one of those Boston Dynamic, Boston Robotics, terrifying robot dogs.

00:03:07 - 00:03:11 | Speaker 3:

As a senior citizen, you're probably aware of the threat robots pose.

00:03:12 - 00:04:26 | Speaker 4:

We've all seen the videos of those things running around. This art collective bought one, and they've strapped a paintball gun to it. And on a certain day, you're going to be able to jump on the Internet. And if you're lucky, maraud that thing around an art gallery and shoot paintballs at things. So we'll get into that. Oh, speaking of art, De La Soul, the hip-hop outfit. They have now gone on a kid's cartoon to try to put pressure on their former label, Tommy Boy Records, to release their music. So you got my money? I didn't know this until today. Like, Three Feet High and Rising and most of the kind of seminal day-loss stuff is not available on streaming services because they cannot agree on the terms. so we'll talk about that too and we'll do some emails and v-mails we'll do all of it with this guy the longest running robot on the show Andrew Walsh Andrew Walsh he's joining us from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington he is Andrew Walsh, good morning my friend

00:04:26 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 5:

wow that is a blast from the past, that little intro tape, that was when we were going to hear the rest of it, yeah let's hear it That was based on some kind of bot online that would explain how to pronounce cities and towns, right? And then somebody discovered that that voice is, you can replicate it using, I believe, one of the default text-to-voices on Apple Pro.

00:05:00 - 00:05:50 | Speaker 2:

Maybe. And so somebody made that for us. Was it? Yes, that is should not be named. I don't know who created that piece of audio. But yeah, the the actual thing on YouTube was really kind of a weird world because what had clearly happened was someone had written some kind of program, I think. Right. because that that that strange robo voice it existed for like every city in america pretty much and every town like it wasn't just like new york city la and chicago it was so many videos like hundreds if not thousands of videos that it just either was the an evidence of a very unquiet mind or someone had just written a program that could just go and do that um because you know what i'm talking about when we when we stumbled into that youtube world it was quite something. Here, I think I

00:05:50 - 00:06:02 | Speaker 3:

found, I'm going to have to, I apologize to do this, but I think, I mean, and this is probably not how you wanted to start the show today. In fact, I know it isn't because I have a show sheet that you worked on and sent to me. Andrew Walsh, Andrew

00:06:02 - 00:06:06 | Speaker 2:

Walsh, a real show derailer.

00:06:07 - 00:06:25 | Speaker 3:

When you said stop the show. Did my voice crack in the middle of my attempt at singing? Here's how I think we ended up on this. Here's one. You were living in Port Townsend I believe, at the time that we discovered this. And we were probably thanking a donor of the day and didn't know how to say the name of a town, and so we Googled it on the fly.

00:06:25 - 00:06:26 | Speaker 2:

That does not sound like us.

00:06:26 - 00:06:34 | Speaker 3:

No, it doesn't sound like us. But there was one time in 2015, maybe 2014, and then we kept on stumbling on all of these videos. And here's one for Port Townsend.

00:06:35 - 00:06:44 | Speaker 1:

Port Townsend, Washington. Port Townsend, Washington. It's so bad.

00:06:44 - 00:06:54 | Speaker 3:

Turns out that's a terrible, that's like I somehow picked the worst one.

00:06:55 - 00:08:01 | Speaker 2:

No, it's the best one. In fact, once again, Andrew, you and I, a couple of middle-aged dad types, we were ahead of the curve on what the trends are. Because a big thing on TikTok these days is, in fact, you know what? It's a trend that's already sort of come and gone. but it, but it happened in the last couple of months would be people using a kind of text to voice program to narrate various things on their tick tocks. And part of the fun is that the text to voice program gets a lot of the pronunciation wrong. You know, like, uh, I mentioned yesterday that, that's, I think that the young people, when they want to see what's going on with another young person, they might say, um, W, uh, W Y D. What are you doing? What you doing? And so, but the text to voice thing will say wid like it doesn't know what to do with that word yeah so these like this kind of very informal text that these people are putting up on their screen it's all getting kind of jumbled and messed up by this automation and we were doing that years ago

00:08:01 - 00:08:43 | Speaker 3:

I've been mispronouncing words for really even before the computers were doing it for me have you ever been driving you have a yeah of course Your V-Dub and probably your car before that, you were able to either plug your phone into it and it had built-in computer stuff. Did you ever get text messages from people where the car is translating it for you or just like reading the text out loud maybe and then it gets to an emoji and it describes it? But like sometimes it just takes a really long time to describe the emoji, like from the very specific like skin tone that was chosen to then what the face is doing. and then with the tears coming out of it or the tears not coming out of it or what have you?

00:08:44 - 00:09:37 | Speaker 2:

I've not gotten that far. I've been in – I haven't used that function very often, but I've been in cars with people where that's just their kind of go-to while they're driving, and then you can assign a different kind of voice and accent, a different kind of accent if you want or whatever. I don't know why I would never avail myself. Part of it is I guess I'm – I don't know what sketchy texting I'm doing, But there's something about having my text read aloud to all who are in the car that feels a little personal. So I've never really used that service. But actually, that could be some good audio content for us. I mean, just as like drop material. Yeah. Because, you know, we talk about that crying emoji thing a lot because it's my most used emoji. And it's also been decided that it's the most out of style, out of fashion emoji that you can use. Like whatever that program you're talking about The way it would describe that emoji Would be kind of a fun thing to just play on the show

00:09:37 - 00:10:00 | Speaker 3:

Is there a way I mean I'm sure First of all I'm sure there's some way That I can get the text to speech thing work here in my studio But I also think it would just be funny If on tomorrow's show Could I just take a microphone We used to do this all the time I recorded so many TBTLs from my car With a shotgun microphone And you on the other end of a phone line I wonder if there's a way tomorrow for

00:10:00 - 00:10:08 | Speaker 2:

for me to join you for part of the show in my car, and you can just keep sending me text messages with emojis, and we can hear how the car does the translation.

00:10:09 - 00:13:04 | Speaker 1:

I am totally down for that as a way of creating some interesting audio content. Can I create some not interesting audio content right here? I think I just did. And get all Andy Rooney on it? I don't have an update on what's going on with me and the management of this apartment building, re-colon my dishwasher, but uh something else has come to my attention and i'm actually a little bit nervous that when i bring this up i'm going to my level of frustration is going to make me a little sound a little bit more harsh than i mean to and it's going to alienate some of our listeners and these would be the listeners who live in apartment buildings and also have dogs and that's got to be probably a fairly large venn diagram overlap of the tbtl listeners i don't know the story on the Kornheiser refugees but I you know I want to call them littles but that's somebody else's terminology I call them so it's highs wide shutters how did we God that's so much better than clear highs full heart I thought I said did we not I thought we said it in this maybe you did maybe that's a that's a good spoof anyway so I don't want to hurt anyone I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings with this but i have come to the conclusion living in a very large apartment building that is very dog friendly i have come to the conclusion that there are many people who have dogs and live in apartments who should choose either have a dog or live in an apartment and by that i mean like a high-rise apartment i don't mean you live in a duplex or something or a you know a one-story apartment i think there are people in this building who have dogs but they don't like taking the elevator 20 floors down five times a day to give their dogs sufficient exercise and bathroom times and what it means is when they do it like when they actually do dane to bring oh if they brought a great if they deigned to bring their great dane down they really have something basically the the immediate 20 feet or perimeter around this apartment building is all dog poop and dog pee every surface is covered in it because people don't take their dogs out enough so when they do finally bring their dog down the poor animal is bursting and just pees or poops on the first thing that it can go on that's outside of the apartment building and when i see that uh i'm a kind of grossed out a little bit and b i feel sad for this animal that basically could only make it two feet before it needed to go to the bathroom the new move that people in my building are doing this has happened over the course of the last it might just be one person who has a terrible habit maybe they're new to the building is there are the first floor and the third floor of this building are kind of where the main

00:13:04 - 00:13:54 | Speaker 1:

elevator banks are because of how the parking garage is laid out so most people get on the elevator at the first floor or they get on the elevator at the third floor and in the third floor waiting area there is just one of those little small garbage cans that maybe is meant for you to throw I don't know the remnants of a Tootsie Roll popsicle you were eating or an empty cup of coffee that's probably supposed to go in some kind of recycling but whatever you know it's not Supposed to go in there your dog Poop bag which Freaks for the last Like three or four days every time I go to take the elevator Someone has thrown their dog waste In that little small stainless steel garbage Can that is so not for that Kind of thing and it has completely Funked up the entire Elevator waiting area and I know

00:13:54 - 00:14:05 | Speaker 2:

That I was gonna I kind of missed that for a second So it is definitely inside it's not outside That's rough I'm sorry, the little garbage can is not on the outside of the building It's actually in the lobby

00:14:05 - 00:15:20 | Speaker 1:

No, it's in a totally enclosed area Like it's a room And the thing is, it happened I was really grossed out by it I don't know, however many days ago, five days ago And then it went away Clearly somebody from the custodial crew here Had to take the garbage out Because people were probably complaining So it was gone for a while And now it's back Meaning someone or someones have now made this their standard thing they take their dog out i guess it's good that at least they're picking up the poop because a lot of people around here don't but they are picking it up and then they think here's where i'll throw this a like waste basket by the way that's open it's not even like it doesn't even close it doesn't have like a lid and an open effectively like waste basket that's for like the most it should be the most inert garbage that goes in there because we all have to live with it until they empty it the last thing you should put in there is a clearly porous bag of dog poop because it stinks so bad i don't really have opinions on where people throw away their dog's poop as you know i am right famously just famously a go with the flow kind of live and let live kind of guy um i do think that they should put i mean your your management company loves signs right signs

00:15:20 - 00:15:28 | Speaker 2:

and flyers i almost made my own sign i was and i am not a pink ink sign maker although i am the

00:15:28 - 00:15:33 | Speaker 1:

son of a sign maker so there's an irony there the sign maker has no sign the sign maker's son has no

00:15:33 - 00:15:59 | Speaker 2:

sign goes on goes unbesigned what i was sitting here last night contemplating the idea of writing a note andrew a handwritten note i don't know why i wouldn't just print it yeah i have a printer and i can and i can type yeah a little bit i was considering writing a sign that says Please do not throw your dog poop in this garbage can That is so not where it goes

00:15:59 - 00:17:09 | Speaker 1:

What I would like here in this situation And by the way, as I was bringing my yard waste bins in yesterday Everything went well, by the way I feel like now every time I'm bringing my garbage bins in or out It used to just be, oh, I hope nobody threw anything in here And now I more think about me being somewhat villainous on the show and, like, just being so stubborn in my argument that people should never throw any garbage away in my empty bins. And I'm just wondering if, like, I'm starting to soften on that and start to feel like I was just playing the heel. I don't really know. I just have a lot of emotions to sort out. But I will say, putting that aside for a second and talking about your situation, I would hope that the management would identify this. I understand that this is not the New York Times of management companies, as we like to say. But assuming they did provide a premium white glove service, I would like them to put a sign on the indoor garbage can that says, please do not dispose of pet waste in this can. I think that's reasonable. You know, just like straightforward. Say it. Maybe put a little cute picture of a puppy there or whatever. Or a splooch turtle. Whatever you choose.

00:17:09 - 00:17:21 | Speaker 2:

On the outside, if you want peels of laughter each time people try to take the elevator, I would say put up a picture of Splooch, the diuretic turtle from Australia.

00:17:22 - 00:18:00 | Speaker 1:

Splooch, the diuretic turtle. I would watch that cartoon. But I would also hope that the management company would say this is a need, though. Like, we have people who do live here with pets, and we should have a little garbage bag outside or a garbage can. And, you know, they have specific little cans that you can tell are for throwing away dog poop. I'm sure you've seen them a million times at dog parks. I don't go to dog parks. They don't let me there anymore. But who's that guy without the dog who just keeps hanging around trying to pet my poodle? Do you know that, like, I dread going to that giant can at the dog park?

00:18:00 - 00:18:10 | Speaker 2:

I believe it. Like, it's one of my—it's an actual sort of trigger for me. I will say that the fact that in the last year we've been wearing masks has actually helped.

00:18:11 - 00:18:11 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was going to say that.

00:18:11 - 00:19:18 | Speaker 2:

But like when I was living in Bellingham and I would take Rudy to the dog park, if she would go to the bathroom, I would obviously go and I would pick it up. And then the dread would start to build in me. And this might also – I may be especially sensitive to dog poop. Like maybe from being a kid and stepping in it. Like I've said this on the show a bunch, but I feel like we were all stepping in dog poop a lot as kids. And I think that that's mostly been changed. I think that that was just one of those initiatives where it was like somehow the message got through. Like we just put social pressure on people to generally speaking clean up after their dog. But I'm very sensitive to stinky dog smell. And when I'm walking over to that bin that I know has sometimes 200 baggies and, you know, people do their best. People tie their bag up. Some of them must come open. Some of them must be a bag that's not particularly like locking the smell in Opening that bin is my idea of hell If I went to hell, it would just be a continuous loop of me opening that bin and throwing poop in And having to smell the commingling of all of that

00:19:18 - 00:19:21 | Speaker 1:

With death metal playing in the background the whole time

00:19:21 - 00:19:22 | Speaker 2:

I've told you my hell joke

00:19:22 - 00:19:27 | Speaker 1:

And motorcycles revving really loudly Trying to think of the things you hate

00:19:27 - 00:19:41 | Speaker 2:

Yep, I've told you my hell joke great. By the way, diuretic is not what I meant to say about splooge, because diuretic is, I looked this up, it's something you take to increase the production of your urine, and I don't think splooge's problem was that he was peeing too much.

00:19:41 - 00:19:58 | Speaker 1:

No, of course we should know that from all the sports stories, right? Like all the people taking performance and enhancing drugs, and they say, well, it's just a diuretic. Wasn't that, was that that was our boy, one of the mariners got sucked into that whole diuretic argument.

00:19:58 - 00:20:00 | Speaker 2:

Do you know...

00:20:00 - 00:20:05 | Speaker 1:

Why I was saying that is because of one Jack Rebney, a.k.a. Winnebago man, when he says,

00:20:05 - 00:20:12 | Speaker 3:

I get some goddamn diuretic when I sit here. My mouth just never stops. So he is misusing it.

00:20:12 - 00:20:20 | Speaker 1:

And then I thought, well, Rebney seems like he knows what he's talking about. No, he seems like a well-read, well-balanced fella. Absolutely. Acoutrement?

00:20:21 - 00:20:26 | Speaker 2:

What is that? But I do like that word. Gotta do it again, right now. Sorry, I apologize.

00:20:26 - 00:21:54 | Speaker 1:

What is the word for somebody who is suffering from diarrhea? I don't I don't know. But anyway, sorry, I misused that word. And then I was on my way somewhere else conversationally after that. But maybe maybe it's not that important because I know I no longer remember. Oh, my hell joke. So a guy goes to hell and a demon says, OK, we're going to figure out where you're going to spend the rest of your life. And I was like, all right. Do you know this joke, Andrew? I don't think so. So the demon takes him to the first room And it is just a Endless, an infinite Room where people Are standing on their heads On a brick Floor, right? Like it's brick And they're doing a headstand On bricks And he's like, ugh, no thanks So the demon takes him to the next room Says, well would you like to spend eternity here? And it's the same kind of room, it's endless But it's people doing a headstand on like a Hardwood floor, like a gymnasium floor and he's like this is better but still i don't want to do that so then the demon takes him to the third room and it's people just drinking coffee and they're standing around they're like ankle deep in human feces and the guy is like oh this is a tough call because that's gross but you know it's probably better than the alternative so he says i'll take it so the demon says all right so he walks over guy gets a cup of coffee standing around in the feces and then about two minutes later a different demon comes in and says coffee breaks over back on your heads

00:21:54 - 00:22:18 | Speaker 2:

so for me that but dog poop yes would be hell um if you ever go over the falls try not to pick the bucket that has been used as the trash can at the dog park um i don't know why i'm taking this to niagara uh because that seems like hell too to be trapped in that no i i imagine i i mean I see.

00:22:18 - 00:22:33 | Speaker 1:

As my, like, containment device. Yeah, don't use that. What if they were like, you will survive going over the falls, but we've done the research and this for whatever reason. It's something about the bags of dog poop. It's very cushioning. This is what you have to ride in.

00:22:33 - 00:23:07 | Speaker 2:

Right. Or you can go in this other one, but there's a 75% chance of death. I'll take the death, I think. Absolutely. Like, I don't want to live the rest of my life having had that other experience. But yeah, no, that does sound rough. But I would wish that your management would put a garbage bin outside. You don't have a dog there with you right now, so you wouldn't even have to worry about opening it. But it would just be nice if they sort of said, listen, we realize that we're a pet friendly place. Here's a place to throw your dog waste outside. We'll take care of it. We'll empty it once a day. Please don't put it on the inside. It's very easily solved if you have a management company that cares.

00:23:07 - 00:23:26 | Speaker 1:

And normally I would see a little sign A laminated sign as being an annoyance As being FPI management You know just Continually getting up in my biz But this is important Because it happened to me Andrew I didn't like the smell so this very much Deserves a sign I would say

00:23:26 - 00:23:31 | Speaker 3:

I don't want any more At any time during the day From anyone that includes me

00:23:31 - 00:23:36 | Speaker 2:

Alright let's take a quick break I say that to myself almost daily

00:23:36 - 00:24:27 | Speaker 1:

i seriously do i know uh for uh you know for our highs wide shut listeners who may not know the majesty that is the documentary winnebago man uh definitely do check it out or if you don't have time for the full documentary just um watch the like kind of original winnebago man clips on youtube it was a guy named jack rebney who was hired to record the industrial film for a particular Kind of Winnebago that if you were to purchase it You would Get this videotape and it would tell you About all of the features and Accoutrement What is that And the guy is getting so mad during The filming because there's all kinds of problems Flies it's hot he messes up his lines And his just pure white hot rage Is just something To see it's beautiful

00:24:27 - 00:25:00 | Speaker 2:

Did you ever watch the documentary of finding Winnebago man or whatever it was called What do you think about that Sorry you're trying to go to break I just remember feeling like it felt kind of exploitative to me Felt like the filmmaker was not getting what he wanted out of Remini And just kept pushing and pushing into his personal life Which is you know I know that's sometimes what you have to do as a filmmaker But there's always a not always but there's sometimes a moment where things turn a little bit And it's like listen this is a guy who's struggling with some things Like stop trying to break in Like just maybe take what you got and make the film about it or don't

00:25:00 - 00:26:46 | Speaker 1:

But it just felt, I don't know, exploitative I watched it a long, long time ago And I think my takeaway And I'm, because I made a middling documentary once A long time ago I think I'm generally I'm loathe to criticize people's art And their work Because I know they put a lot of work into it But the sense I got was The actual Winnebago Man clips The like, whatever it is Seven minutes that's on YouTube Is, that gives you kind of the gist of the whole thing Yeah Like that's kind of enough They weren't it didn't expand the story enough for me for the the hour and a half that I spent with it. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it wasn't sometimes those. Oh, and speaking of I don't know if you can even call this documentary. But when we come back from the break, Andrew, can I please quickly make the case for this documentary style show on HBO? That is absolutely blowing my mind called How To with John Wilson, which came out a while ago. I'm very late to the game on this, but it's it's really something anyway. We'll talk about that and do our top stories In a moment Here on TBTL Let's thank some donors of the day These are the people that are making This episode possible People like Kathleen Munns Of Bloomington, Minnesota I'm pretty sure that at one time Amy Dickinson, my friend from Wait Wait and also the Ask Amy person I think her brother was the mayor of Bloomington, Minnesota Hmm How's that for a dazzling D?

00:26:46 - 00:27:02 | Speaker 2:

Sounds like a Do you feel dazzled? It sounds like a teenage fan club song or something The Mayor of Bloomington Actually, you know what? No, I think I'm thinking of a smoking pope song called The Mayor of Simpleton Anyway Oh, well, Mare of Simpleton is... Or no, that's not... Yeah, that's XTC, isn't it?

00:27:02 - 00:27:03 | Speaker 1:

Yes.

00:27:03 - 00:27:11 | Speaker 2:

Oh, man. You love yourself. That's one of the most surprising things I learned about you late in our relationship is that you're like, you're just an XTC guy deep down.

00:27:12 - 00:27:32 | Speaker 1:

Which, yeah, it's not usually the kind of thing I would go for because it's kind of got this, like, I don't know, just... I can't describe the quality about XTC's music, but like the ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead. Who will pray for Peter Pumpkinhead It just doesn't seem like the kind of thing I'd be vibing with But I love that stuff It's a bit frivolous for your taste

00:27:32 - 00:27:37 | Speaker 2:

Not that you don't enjoy Not that everything you listen to is heavy But it's a bit frivolous

00:27:37 - 00:27:58 | Speaker 1:

And I may be the mayor of Simpleton But I know one thing And that's I love Dave Nelson of Linwood, Washington Who's also one of our donors of the day How about Jill Rosenberg Over there in Madison, Wisconsin Yesterday we had Racine, Wisconsin Checking in, today it's Madison what is is it the badger state is that wisconsin that sounds right

00:27:58 - 00:28:12 | Speaker 2:

a lot of uh a lot of support in the badger state ironically we're badgering them for donations and they're receptive to it because they're from the badger state recognize yeah uh chloe

00:28:12 - 00:28:39 | Speaker 1:

pink knee is in aberdeen washington i love aberdeen yeah me too it's a it's a you know So famously, of course, the birthplace of Kurt Cobain, or at least where Kurt Cobain grew up. But Aberdeen really overperforms. I think this literally came up last time we talked about Aberdeen or one of these towns that's kind of down in Grays Harbor County. It really overperforms on cool old buildings and dive bars.

00:28:40 - 00:28:47 | Speaker 2:

Oh, I haven't actually spent time in it. I've been through it, and it's a beautiful part of the state. But have you actually spent some time?

00:28:47 - 00:29:28 | Speaker 1:

um i mean i haven't like you know rented a hotel room there per se but like just in you know growing up in washington state and doing road trips and driving i've been through it a bunch of times and i mean you know part of aberdeen's story also is that it was a big mill town and uh you know that that's not something that's been a thriving industry in the same way so there's been some hard times for aberdeen but through all of that it's also just kind of a cool quirky town that i i'm a fan of and i'm also a fan of chloe's so thanks chloe daniel lennon is right here in portland oregon another quirky town known as the home of tbtl stump town uh-huh good old stump town

00:29:28 - 00:30:19 | Speaker 2:

baby me and kobe smolders yes it's weird that i can remember the name of that show i don't know why i can't so much i just think it's so funny because genevieve said it was actually a pretty Good show as far as those shows are concerned But they manage to call the city Stumptown In like every episode Like I walk into a room literally I think I've said this on the show before Because I've seen very little of that show but I feel like every time I walk in the room somebody is saying Stumptown Like some alternate universe Face it kid Exactly It's Stumptown. I swear to God, the last one I saw was somebody walked onto stage. She was like a punk rocker or something, and she was back in Portland. I'll bet you there was some Sleater-Kinney DNA in this character now that I think about it. And she takes the stage, and she's like, I'm back, Stumptown, or something along the lines of that.

00:30:19 - 00:31:15 | Speaker 1:

I'm just like, did the crowd all just look at each other confused after you said that? I'll save everyone the emails. I didn't know this, but now because I'm Googling it, I guess it's based on an American comic book called Stumptown. The comic book is a modern-day detective fiction series based in Portland, Oregon, a.k.a. Stumptown, Andrew, featuring Dex Perios, a bisexual female private investigator with a gambling problem. I'm like three of those things So I can see how If you're making a If you're making a graphic novel Or a comic book It kind of works You know, Stumptown, it's like pulpy I don't know, it's literally pulpy Stumps are trees But it's the kind of thing that When you put it on network television It sort of strikes me as Maybe a little bit corny Whereas I could see it working as a comic book It's weird, I will do that

00:31:15 - 00:31:55 | Speaker 2:

because I don't read a lot of comic books, but I love the idea of comic books. And when I do finally get into one, I find their storytelling brilliant. Like I just think it's a brilliant medium that for some reason I don't take part in enough as if there's some barrier. Like all I have to do is buy one and read it. But I do think it's just the creativity involved in using that platform to tell a story is insane. And sometimes I'll be watching like a Marvel movie or something and I'll think, Eh, that's just not Or even The Walking Dead at first I'd be like, ugh, that's so corny And then you'd be like, yeah, but it was a comic book And then suddenly I look at the movie or TV show With very different eyes

00:31:55 - 00:32:33 | Speaker 1:

Right, because we And I'm also not a comic book aficionado at all But we look We just read those things differently You can just get away with different stuff And it doesn't seem cheesy It seems like this is how the genre works Oh, I didn't actually hear it myself Because again, I'm still working my way through Alex Trebek, Jeopardy before I get really fully immersed myself in Ken Jen Jeopardy. But I saw that Ken Jen tweeted the word genre came up. Oh, really? While he was guest hosting. Really? And he had to say it. And I forget how Ken said it because he goes something to the effect of like, I knew this was going to happen at some point, but I had to confront, you know, the word genre on the show.

00:32:33 - 00:32:38 | Speaker 2:

That's funny. I want to see what that moment was like, if there's a knowing quick second.

00:32:38 - 00:33:28 | Speaker 1:

I know. I think he included a clip. And of course, I didn't. I didn't have 30 seconds to click on that. But I do have 30 seconds to thank Aaron Moiso of Nampa, Idaho. Aaron, thank you so much for supporting TBTL. Thank you to all of our donors of the day. We would not be here in Stumptown doing this show without you. Hello and welcome to Top Story. Couldn't figure out why that audio wasn't getting louder, Andrew, and it's because I was turning up my microphone. not my fader that controls the computer sound but that's all right I am so excited about my new equipment here maybe tomorrow I will regale the listeners with stories of my new Gator Frameworks professional microphone arm

00:33:28 - 00:33:44 | Speaker 2:

can't wait wow that's a teaser we have a filmmaker who's going to be coming on the show later and a friend of the show will be coming on later in the week and you're just but you're not talking about that you're ford promoing explaining to us the new arm that holds your microphone in your

00:33:44 - 00:34:23 | Speaker 1:

studio yeah we're gonna have davy rothbard on the show on friday's episode uh davy is a friend of the program you may know him from found magazine uh he's also a filmmaker and he has this new documentary that looks amazing i've only watched the trailer but i'm gonna watch it uh probably tonight called 17 blocks about a family in washington dc and i the sense i get is that They sort of camcorder They video recorded like 20 years of their life And it's a journey with this family The Sanders family Or maybe it's Sanford family Anyway we're going to do that on Friday But before that we will talk Mike Arms on tomorrow's show

00:34:23 - 00:34:27 | Speaker 2:

Also see if Davey has anything to say about that too Oh he's got thoughts

00:34:27 - 00:36:32 | Speaker 1:

He asked how Camaro Kev was In one of his messages You guys went romping one time I forgot about I've forgotten a lot of those nights Andrew I literally forgot that me and Camaro Kev and Davey Rothbart had been had been out, you know, making a little trouble in Seattle, Washington. Just because I mentioned it before the break, I feel obligated to to close the loop on this. There is a show on HBO right now called How To with John Wilson that is really unlike anything I've ever. a scene um it's i guess you could say it's a documentary show or it's a how-to show where he kind of you know the ostensible point is he's gonna learn how to um make small talk or cover his furniture or um uh you know just various things little uh he does an entire episode on scaffolding in new york city andrew like what's going on with all the scaffolding everywhere but that's that doesn't even really describe it because really what it is is it's like a it's like a video blog or you know like when like a really good photography somebody's really good photography instagram or blog actually kind of like yours andrew where somebody takes a lot of pictures of what would be seemingly random stuff but there's beauty in that stuff or there's irony or there's just something visually interesting this is that but of video in new york city just of just random things up somebody dropped a entire lemon meringue pie at the corner of you know second avenue and a in new york he films that or somebody's hiding behind a bush for some reason or he's just walking around new york filming things and then he kind of goes back and he constructs this like plot arc for himself based on these visual jokes and cues i really want to see this which i just that's a terrible description that just again does not do it justice it just is um i've never it's rare because i have i consume so much media it's rare that i say this is

00:36:32 - 00:37:24 | Speaker 2:

different than anything i've ever seen before and it really is let me just and you did a great job describing i haven't seen it but i've been following along on wikipedia and how they describe it just as far as words they do call it a comedy docu-series so okay on that um also nathan fielder involved that makes sense um but it says that they're framed as tutorials filmed mainly in New York City uh covering uh topics like small talk to scaffolding while each episode initially focuses on its topic the course of its investigation Wilson meets people and strikes up conversations that lead in unpredictable directions for example I don't know have you seen them all Luke do you mind if I um I think I've seen um I there might be like is there six of them I think I've seen like four okay yeah i'm excited to watch this um based on everything that you just said it says for example an episode titled how to improve your memory ends up featuring a conference oh yeah on

00:37:24 - 00:38:08 | Speaker 1:

the mandela effect in ketchum idaho which is near nampa which is where listener aaron moisto is checking it all comes together yeah um that yeah that one is god i'm so i don't i don't think i'm giving anything away uh or i'm ruining it for anyone but what's fascinating about that mandela effect one is you know we're all familiar right with this idea at this point that we you remember something a certain way even though it was never the case berenstein bears that's a classic um or as they point out in this episode this idea that like the sun on a box of raisin brands on a box of raisin brand a lot of people seem to remember that sun used to have sunglasses on oh really i was gonna say but it doesn't i thought you're gonna tell me it wasn't holding

00:38:08 - 00:38:13 | Speaker 2:

two scoops of raisins because i was like it better be um right but or like sunglasses oh

00:38:13 - 00:39:09 | Speaker 1:

that's interesting or like febreze used to be spelled with two e's but now it's just f e r f e b r e z e there's not two e's in febreze and a lot of people think it used to have two e's where this takes a turn though is the people these mandela effect enthusiasts and people who are very interested in it they go to this conference because what they believe andrew is that the mandela effect is basically the universe glitching the multiverse glitching so there was a version of our life where the sun on the box of raisin bran had sunglasses on and we just glitched over into a different version of the multiverse and that's why we were and this applies to anything you remember being a certain way and now it's not that way that's because in a previous version of of life or in a previous time stream or whatever you that's what it was and you've glitched over

00:39:09 - 00:39:17 | Speaker 2:

to something else is is there any part of you that flirts with that idea well i i mean the

00:39:17 - 00:40:42 | Speaker 1:

the multiverse really just bends my brain as a concept because that makes sense right like if we agree that that uh you know the universe is is infinite right which i can't even wrap my mind around that concept like there's not an end you don't get to the end of the universe there's a brick wall like it goes on forever so if if the universe is have you asked kairi irving about that if if the universe is infinite that means there's infinite possibilities and it means that there has to be when as soon as you get into infinite you know something being infinite it means every possibility has to have happened or so i believe in the multiverse in that again you I don't know. I mean, I think mathematically that that's just how it works. Right. If you have infinite possibilities, it means that this whole world we're in has combined in an infinite number of ways. There's a version where you host this podcast. There's a version where you and I are longtime partners, like romantically. There's a version where I finally got you to make an honest man out of me and marry me like there's every version of every possibility. You sounded a little bit like Gene from Bob's Burgers there. I loved it. but um anyway so i believe and i'm doing a the only thing i'm worse at than describing uh how to with john wilson is describing the multiverse right but i mean is that your understanding of

00:40:42 - 00:41:05 | Speaker 2:

it the concept of the multiverse yeah i mean i i you know i specifically asked that as a question as opposed to weighed in on it myself and you know i know there's a version of this show where you weighed in on it yeah exactly i don't know that i go i mean it's not a scientific principle Right. It's a it's a theory. So I don't know to what degree I believe that that is actually the reality.

00:41:05 - 00:41:50 | Speaker 1:

But I believe you described the concept. I mean, as far as I as far as I am able to understand it, that is how I've kind of thought of it, that, you know, there's just because there because there's every single possibility, that means every single thing has happened. So in that way, I believe in it. But I don't think that the I was watching that show with Addie. She was the one that hipped me to it. The John Wilson show. And what we were saying was, no, it's just that I'm probably brands change. Oh, one of the other big ones was and this is part of the show is that we were growing up. It was objects in mirror, maybe closer than they appear would be on like your car mirror, right? Yeah, that sounds right

00:41:50 - 00:41:52 | Speaker 2:

Objects in mirror may be closer than they appear

00:41:52 - 00:42:35 | Speaker 1:

And now they've lost May Now it says objects in mirror Are closer than they appear And these multiverse These Mandela effect people, I should say Are very keyed in on that And this one particular guy is going around With the filmmaker pointing out Side mirrors on cars And what I said to Eddie was I think what happened was The design of side mirrors changed Think about my parents ford fairmont station wagon big old square thing with big old square um mirrors you know side mirrors there was probably more room and then at some point they started making them more kind of oval shaped or more designy and they didn't have as much surface area and they said we got to lose

00:42:35 - 00:42:59 | Speaker 2:

a superfluous word here we're going to go with maybe right exactly i guess r actually saves space anyway and not to mention yeah if there's any like legit just like safety legal language also the raisin brand thing i'm on the reddit mandela effect subreddit here and um it's it looks like this was just yeah at a certain time they did have sunglasses and the branding change right

00:42:59 - 00:43:30 | Speaker 1:

and and i'm sure again this is what addie and i were talking about like at some point somebody in a marketing meeting said you know what we want to make this sun more approachable for people they decided there was some branding advantage to the sun not having the sunglasses on they're like this sun looks too cool uh for people to engage with we want the sun to be more relatable lose the sunglasses and we'll sell more raisin bran i mean that's just how these things are are driven as opposed to a glitch in the time you know the time time span or whatever yeah the only one that

00:43:30 - 00:43:57 | Speaker 2:

doesn't fit in there and i'm trying to remember how we came up with it but this idea that there was a movie called shazam starring the comedian sinbad like that's something that a bunch of people think they remember but i think there's an there's a reason for that too right there was a film called kazam with shack with shack and so yeah i think people like crossed wires but then you know at some point somebody online says does anybody else remember the movie shazam with sin bad other people are like yeah i think i remember that but nothing like that exists

00:43:57 - 00:44:11 | Speaker 1:

right although there now is adding complication to things there is a tv show called shazam with sin bad no oh is it named zachary something oh is it part of the levi is it a superhero thing

00:44:11 - 00:44:13 | Speaker 2:

Wasn't there a superhero named Shazam?

00:44:13 - 00:44:49 | Speaker 1:

It is. The guy is a superhero. I guess it's part of the Marvel-verse because there's somebody in it called Captain Marvel Jr. But the sense I have of this show. Oh, I found something I understand less than the multiverse. The TV show Shazam. It's a real cheeky approach. Yes, yes. Right. Like he's a superhero, but there's something going on with him where he's, you know, he's – well, he doesn't wear sunglasses, so he's a more relatable, more approachable superhero. Right. And he's, you know, he's like, he's out, I don't know, again, I'm just guessing, but based on the short videos I've seen of it, he's a more normal guy who's a superhero kind of thing.

00:44:49 - 00:44:56 | Speaker 2:

Right. I had a Shazam sticker in my minivan. I don't know why. Somebody gave it to me and I stuck it to the console. I think it was a puffy sticker.

00:44:57 - 00:45:00 | Speaker 1:

I think that Gomer Pyle used to say Shazam.

00:45:00 - 00:45:01 | Speaker 2:

Shazam! Yeah.

00:45:01 - 00:45:02 | Speaker 3:

How's my Gilmer Pyle?

00:45:03 - 00:45:25 | Speaker 2:

Not bad, honestly. That could have gone either way. If you had said not good there, I would have also accepted that as an answer. We would have also accepted horrible as an answer. Jim Neighbors. I wonder, though, if, like, did Jim Neighbors invent the word Shazam? Because that would have been before it had had any superhero connotation, you'd think. I mean, that was a long time ago.

00:45:25 - 00:45:35 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, I feel like it was just an expression probably that predates Gomer Pyle. That would be my guess. But again, I'm an expert.

00:45:35 - 00:45:56 | Speaker 2:

When I was in probably 10th grade and I was in Rowdy, reaching out with drama to youth. We don't talk about the tea. Don't talk about the tea, guys. Don't spill the tea. Reaching out with drama to youth. Rowdy. Oh, and also the W

00:45:56 - 00:45:58 | Speaker 3:

Oh, no, we did have the W

00:45:58 - 00:48:01 | Speaker 2:

R-O-W-D-Y Yeah When I was in Piper's I'm in Piper's Pit, baby When I was in Rowdy There was One of the skits that we did Which would really bring the house down Was a And by the house, I mean The area of a mall we were standing in In British Columbia Near a Auntie Anne's or something Although up there they call it Auntie Anne's A The joke would have been better if my voice didn't crack Am I going through puberty again? Is it finally happening? Am I finally experiencing the change? Yeah But the character, it was like a Drill sergeant, my friend Seth Brolight Was the drill sergeant And I was this sort of hapless recruit And I don't know how How Jesus was brought into this But somehow he was, there was some Spiritual component to this but all i did was just a hundred percent do a gomer pile impression and i don't know if like enough time had gone by that that that young people didn't really know what gomer pile was or if the drama teacher just didn't care that this was the character direction i had taken this in but i just dis a hundred percent just did gomer pile and i remember it being very challenging for me Because it was this kind of thing where I had to just totally sell out Like what I mean is I had to really make myself look foolish I had to really go for it It was very slapstick There was no like it was not an arched eyebrow funny thing Or even attempting to be funny in that way It was not droll It was me basically saying golly You had to own it No half measures Like the only way that to the degree that it worked Which I would argue it didn't work But to the degree that it worked at all, it was only because it was an example of somebody completely going for it with the character, which is my least favorite way to portray a character, even in my own life.

00:48:01 - 00:48:03 | Speaker 1:

Shazam! I found that.

00:48:04 - 00:48:54 | Speaker 2:

So, like, being – is that a recording of me? That's from you. That's from you. As a – Shazam! I wish I could remember what the plot of that was. But I also remember it just being Embarrassing because I had to wear You know like a green I don't know like army hat Actually probably not unlike the one that you wear Sometimes with a longer bill but I had the bill Flipped up the way that Gomer Pyle's Bill would be flipped up And I remember that was not a great time For my skin So and there was like pictures I think in the Yearbook or somewhere of me just In like full Derp face Skin just looking Real pimply With my hat flipped up Trying to spread the love of Jesus Christ To whoever Whatever youth wanted to be reached out With drama

00:48:54 - 00:49:01 | Speaker 3:

Give me 10 seconds of your time on this I mean it goes on for more than that But I assume after 10 we'll want to stop it But here's a super cut

00:49:01 - 00:49:16 | Speaker 1:

Gosh Wow, they had some trouble really getting it in the clear, didn't they?

00:49:16 - 00:49:17 | Speaker 3:

It's pretty chopped up.

00:49:19 - 00:49:24 | Speaker 2:

Jim Neighbors was alive for longer than I would have expected. He only passed away in 2017.

00:49:25 - 00:49:37 | Speaker 3:

You know, I would have guessed in the 2000s, but I guess we're 21 years into the 2000s, So that doesn't really make me smart on the matter But I do remember I feel like I remember him dying But yeah, I guess that's

00:49:37 - 00:49:40 | Speaker 2:

Because he was living out his days in Hawaii Oh, nice

00:49:40 - 00:49:41 | Speaker 3:

Good for him

00:49:41 - 00:50:00 | Speaker 2:

I mean, that's the way you do it, right? Exactly I believe Jim Neighbors was also a gay man And I wonder if there was more sort of I mean, I don't know I didn't know that I don't know what the scoop was in Hawaii But I have this kind of sense That maybe, you know in the

00:50:00 - 00:50:22 | Speaker 1:

19 whenever he moved over there there was maybe a little more acceptance or maybe it was a way for him to just pursue his authentic life uh in a way where he'd get less bs although he was also famous for going to the indianapolis 500 every year and singing a song called back home again in indiana which would kind of be the kickoff for the indy 500 for like years and years yeah because he was

00:50:22 - 00:50:42 | Speaker 2:

i mean i mean he that was really his i mean is it fair to call the second act because i mean he was singing while he was doing the of course the andy griffith show and then eventually gomer pile same character but then like i think there are a lot of people who just enjoyed him strictly as a musician right like i swear we had oh yeah i don't have it here but we had jim neighbors records i

00:50:42 - 00:51:24 | Speaker 1:

feel like and there was i mean god bless jim neighbors but god there was just zero irony about that music yeah right it was just the most like you know gospel just down home i mean he was born in alabama by the way he married his partner of 38 years stan uh cad wallader at the fairmont olympic hotel in seattle washington no kidding yeah uh they met in the 1970s when a cad wallader was a fireman in honolulu they began dating in 1975 um uh and then in 1978 he brought his then partner cad wallader to the indy 500 for his singing performance nice nice i wonder how that

00:51:24 - 00:51:27 | Speaker 2:

It was respectfully received, I assume.

00:51:27 - 00:51:29 | Speaker 1:

I mean, now we're...

00:51:29 - 00:51:32 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, and of course he probably wasn't out there singing with them.

00:51:32 - 00:51:45 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I would imagine that it was probably a certain amount of sort of low-keying of the nature of their relationship based just on the time in our nation's history. But anyway, that, my friends, is how you talk about Jim Neighbors.

00:51:46 - 00:51:51 | Speaker 2:

Do we have a sounder? Do we have anything to reset this? We do now. That.

00:51:51 - 00:54:26 | Speaker 1:

I assume that somebody will pull that audio. And that will be a thing that we can now play anytime we need just to kind of to shake up the Etch-A-Sketch on the show. It'll just be me saying, that, my friends, is how you talk about gym neighbors. I'll just do this quickly because I don't feel like talking about it tomorrow. But there is an art collective. I guess they're a prankster art slash marketing collective, which marketing gets kind of a bad rap in my mind. but um i think of art and marketing as being i guess you need marketing for your art to become more popular but there's something about that that feels a little bit uh anathema to art but anyway this thing is called mischief they spent 75 000 to buy spot the robo dog from boston dynamics and then they mounted a 90 a tipman 98 paintball gun on its back people will be able to remotely control this was written about by the way on the verge by uh bijan stephen um people will be able to uh on february wait is that today what day is today oh tomorrow okay the 24th tomorrow people will be able to go on the website and they will be able to uh at 1 p.m eastern time they will be able to jump on and if they get lucky they'll be able to control this robot and make it shoot the paintball gun around the gallery what's interesting to me is boston dynamics is super upset about this oh really yeah because like they have disavowed this because they what they're saying this is where this is going to get into a possibly interesting but kind of more like dark and serious topic than we usually get into on the show i mean the pushback and what this mischief mischief uh outfit is trying to point out is that there is it would seem a time in our not too distant future when these kinds of robots are going to be used by law enforcement but boston dynamics is trying to play this game where they act like oh us we're not building a futuristic robot dog that will uh tase people like that's not us and so they're very anti any kind of weaponizing of these robots like they they don't they don't like the fact that there's a paint gun that's going to be strapped on the robot they're they're they're but the reason that that seems a little disingenuous is it the assumptions they will be selling these these robots to police army and other sort of law enforcement agencies down the road so for them to kind of act like don't put a paintball gun on our lovable little robot dog is kind of like um also jim neighbors used to be their spokesman don't put a little paintball on our lovable robot dog wow that was pretty good you that was terrible no we would have also accepted terrible that's how you get

00:54:26 - 00:54:33 | Speaker 2:

into the rowdy roddy actors or whatever you reach out with drama to youth i love it but um the other

00:54:33 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 1:

thing that's kind of interesting about this is it's unclear if boston dynamics has a kill switch that they can use to turn this robot off during the art performance i don't like that you know what i mean like these these folks paid their 75 000 but in this article they're saying they don't actually know if boston dynamics will let this thing go through or if they're going to jump on the internet tomorrow or you know use whatever whatever uh sort of

00:55:00 - 00:55:07 | Speaker 2:

of electrical impulses they still have control of to basically like brick this thing yeah that's a

00:55:07 - 00:58:05 | Speaker 1:

whole nother conversation that i don't even feel like getting into i hate this idea that we're like just renting our technology all the time but the companies i created have control over whether i mean i think apple and the iphones were some of the early examples of that like and even like we with ebooks that was a thing in the early days just kind of like this idea that like getting used to the fact that you could buy quote unquote buy an ebook but amazon could still like change it on you you know like it could just like take something out of it like take something out of the text like that's all i've still as an old i'm still not 100 comfortable with that and when it comes to like hey i bought a robot dog it wasn't cheap it should be mine now keep your damn hands off it by the way i did want to mention though do you know that i used to control uh strange robots from across the internet, because I did, there, and I want to talk very carefully here, because what I'm going to say is going to make me sound like a creeper, and I, in all earnestness, promise you that there was nothing, as far as I know, illegal or creepy going on on the subreddit, but there was a subreddit that I used to go to sometimes, and I can't remember what it was called, But essentially, it had all kinds of like public security cams and whatnot that you could look at. But these were controllable. So this was kind of an early Internet thing, too. I remember like when the Internet was new, it was like, hey, look, you can go to you can check out the penguin exhibit at the Boston Zoo right now because they have this thing set up and it's official. Right. But then you get into some more gray area where people weren't locking down their security cameras. so they might not know it like some you know somebody who has a restaurant on a boardwalk somewhere i feel like that's a very that was a very typical one like you would like look out at the sea but these were controllable webcams so you could like you click a link and they say hey this is the um i don't know this is the jersey shore or or often this is a this is an intersection in russia right and then you would click the link and then you would see what you could see but there would be little up down left right arrows and you could then move around and somehow that was really cool to me like this idea that here I am across the world and it is nighttime at this lonely street crossing in Russia but here I am pushing these buttons and across the world a little camera is making this noise as it pans right like there was something really cool about that And in this web forum, there was also, I believe, just one user who had this set up, but it was some robotics person who, as a kind of social experiment, built a bunch of robots with cameras on them and just left them around their house. Now, they blocked off certain areas of their house, but it was like their house. You could sometimes hear the TV coming from the other room as you would, wait, hold on, that might be a lie.

00:58:05 - 00:58:22 | Speaker 1:

I don't think there was audio, but maybe you would get the sense of somebody working at a computer in the other room because you could just catch somebody's slippers or something like that. But you could drive around these robots that they purposely put online in sections of their house so that people could control them on the Internet. I got a real thrill out of that.

00:58:23 - 00:58:26 | Speaker 2:

That sounds awesome. And you could just do it through like a web interface.

00:58:26 - 00:58:34 | Speaker 1:

Yeah. And this person, again, this was a specific kind of social robotic experiment. And I remember thinking, you need to clean your house. But anyway

00:58:34 - 00:59:55 | Speaker 2:

That's the biggest thing I've learned from TikTok People are living in squalor Just put your laundry away I don't mean people that are financially On the margins And they're living in humble circumstances I'm talking about people's general level of cleanliness It's shocking to me Yeah, me too Do you know that This would be useful on your Cleaning podcast You should do a show about this i recently started just keeping cleaning supplies in my bathroom yeah now i know that when you clean your bathroom it's a whole thing you take everything out of there like it's a it's a half a day process but for me it's more like well for one thing i have this terribly designed sink in that the sink is black so if you so much as wash your hands spit out your toothpaste anything you do in that sink immediately becomes uh something that looks like messy and gross yeah never ever ever please hear me now friends never buy a black sink because you just see everything and so i'm constantly cleaning it and i even bought black toothpaste so that when i spit in there it makes less of a of an impression yeah i did that sounds upsetting though when you look in the mirror and

00:59:55 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 1:

you're it is really upsetting andrew it is exactly what

01:00:00 - 01:00:44 | Speaker 2:

you would expect. It looks like a horror movie when I am brushing my teeth and my teeth are completely black. What's crazy is then I rinse and it's gone. It's like a charcoal-based black toothpaste made by a company called Hello. And anyway, so because I'm constantly cleaning this bathroom, what I did was I just put a roll of paper towels and some Mrs. Meyers in the cupboard in the bathroom and like under the sink. And what I've realized is I am so much more likely to keep the bathroom clean when I and I have, you know, some gloves in there. There's a toilet bowl cleaner and stuff, too. I am so much more likely to keep things clean when the stuff is right there.

01:00:44 - 01:01:31 | Speaker 3:

I could see that. And I'm also trying to be a little bit better about I think, yeah, there are times when I need to do a full, you know, top to bottom clean on my bathroom. and I in the past I wouldn't really go for half measures like I said before I would just like wait for it to need a cleaning and then do the whole thing I think I've got a I don't think that's really a good policy and so I've gotten a little bit better like even I got a I got a new Swiffer a Swiffer wet jet not to be you know not to class signal here but yeah we're a wet jet family and our other one was it was a pediddle do you have a wet jet where you press the trigger And it squirts juice out of the front of it But then one of the jets stopped working So for like years it was just like Kind of weakly squirting out of one of them

01:01:31 - 01:01:41 | Speaker 2:

Did you try to get in there And see what was what with that jet Or did you just start living your life Where you would spray out of one cockeyed jet And then use that to just do the thing

01:01:41 - 01:02:47 | Speaker 3:

It was basically that, the second one I took it to Dr. Eric Kaki, no help there So I eventually just threw it away And we got a new one It's so funny too how like I used that old one and let it limp along for i mean just years and years and years i don't even know how many how many apartments and like every time i used it i didn't use it much but every time i use i'd be like oh this thing is so broken like they're like 30 bucks maybe 60 bucks or something it's just like wow i really i really took forever to replace this thing that now when it's you know shoots properly it's so satisfying anyway right uh i never use that much because i'm a real like i use a bucket and a mop You know, I grew up on my hands and knees scrubbing floors. Even a bucket and a mop seemed lazy when I was growing up. So the idea of a Swiffer on a bathroom floor, it seems like kind of weak tea. But, you know, this weekend I was like, I don't have time to do the whole thing, but it's just it needs a little needs a little cleanup in here. So I just quickly vacuumed it out with my stick vacuum. Love that guy. And then gave it a quick wet jet. And it's like, this is all it needed. I didn't need to, like, block off three hours later to tear down the entire bathroom and then put it back together.

01:02:48 - 01:03:14 | Speaker 2:

Well, I would just add to that the thing I already said, which is if you are trying to stay a little more on top, I don't mean you, but the listeners, if you're trying to stay a little more on top of the cleaning of an area, my personal experience is that having the materials right there so that when the thought occurs to me, I just take two minutes and spray everything down and wipe it down, clean it up, all of that. I've been doing a better job of keeping everything kind of, you know, spick and span.

01:03:14 - 01:03:21 | Speaker 3:

Nice. Now I'm picturing you doing it, though, with like a mouthful of black toothpaste, just kind of like some sort of a rabid beast.

01:03:21 - 01:03:44 | Speaker 2:

Sometimes I forget that the toothpaste is black. I mean, which is weird because I'm putting it on the toothbrush, so I'm seeing it, but I'm just zoning out. It's the morning. I'll just kind of forget what I'm doing, and then I'll just be brushing my teeth kind of mindlessly, and then I will look up in the mirror, and it will catch me by surprise. It is truly shocking. I imagine that sound. I usually say Shazam

01:03:44 - 01:03:54 | Speaker 1:

Here I go once again with the email Every week I hope that it's from a female No man It's not from a female

01:03:54 - 01:03:58 | Speaker 2:

Any emails Or v-mails my friend

01:03:58 - 01:04:22 | Speaker 3:

I got a couple I got three here that I'd like to get through Two are related to the Larry King Estate conversation It's come up a couple of times now Once when you told the story of his estate I think when Larry King passed away and he left only two million dollars it seemed low to you our friend P. Fletch had a intricate what was her math on that equation yeah it had to do with divorces right

01:04:22 - 01:04:34 | Speaker 2:

he'd been divorced like six times or he'd been married six times so it was like two million to the power of six right or something like what would it have been and I think they came out like a hundred and twenty something million which seemed more like what you'd expect Larry King to be worth

01:04:34 - 01:05:00 | Speaker 3:

alright maybe it was the number of marriages anyway because six was the marriages anyway alley and shoreline says first love you guys in the show this is not a sharpshoot so far so good i'm a probate attorney in washington and the two million number sounded really low to me too so i looked it up in the article i read listed just his personal property at two million personal property at least in washington is just your stuff basically anything

01:05:00 - 01:05:40 | Speaker 2:

that's not real estate or financial accounts so it could be cars furniture artwork bow ties bald spot paintbrushes etc what your house and houses and any of your accounts or investments are not included in that total one place i read valued his total estate at 144 million which means p fletch was pretty close wow karen also says that she'd been reading about this as larry king left most of his estate in a trust close to 150 million so much more than the 2 million trusts are not public record and can be used to give heirs allocations and to make tax-free charitable donations his family is most likely set up on that document which is not made public and the media

01:05:40 - 01:06:01 | Speaker 1:

only has certain access so that makes so much i love that we have like probate attorneys in the listening audience who know what website like you're just going controlling a robot somewhere yeah that listener's going and doing the due diligence on old larry king's estate i love that We have people who know how to do that kind of stuff. I know.

01:06:01 - 01:06:22 | Speaker 2:

I know. Now, I have one more here that is not related to it. This is, I think, community building here. It might veer on the edge of intrusiveness. Okay. But I am logging on and controlling a webcam in your house right now, Luke. And I thought you were wearing a shirt this whole time.

01:06:22 - 01:06:29 | Speaker 1:

I am wearing a shirt, but I am wearing running shorts so that I will force myself to go for a jog after this. Oh, la, la.

01:06:29 - 01:06:47 | Speaker 2:

Um, Keith, uh, in Libertyville says on episode number, it's actually Bibertyville, an episode number three, three, five, five, you think listener Amelia in Libertyville for being a donor. Luke, I meant to look this up. Do we remember where Libertyville is? What?

01:06:47 - 01:07:03 | Speaker 1:

I want to say that one was in Illinois. Okay. And I was trying to remember which Libertyville I had been to on my cross country trip because I may have been in Libertyville, Liberty, Biberty, Bill, Biberty, Indiana. I may have been in Bibertyville, Indiana, where they had a pizza hut that I loved.

01:07:03 - 01:07:50 | Speaker 2:

It does look that when you type in Libertyville, Illinois is the thing that pops up. I'm not even seeing Indiana in the first page of results, although I think we did see that it exists. But chances are here, this is what Keith is talking about, Libertyville, Illinois. You mentioned that a listener, Amelia, lives there. I, too, live in Libertyville. Is there a safe way to connect us without it being weird? I'm happily married with kids. Suburban dad thing is my jam. Not trying to do anything sleazy. I'm just curious to know more tens in my area. So I figured I would just air that out publicly so that there's sunshine on here. Yes. Keith, Amelia, you guys are both out there. If you want to get in touch, Amelia, you can email me, andrew at tbtl.net. And I don't know. Maybe you're still listening. Maybe you've been pushed out by the highest wide shutters. So we'll see.

01:07:52 - 01:08:15 | Speaker 1:

I've been doing some research on that show, by the way, Andrew. And the reason they're called The Littles is because Tony Kornheiser is called The Big. I saw that, too. He's also known as Mr. Tony. Oh. That's the way they describe him. Can we get that kind of respect from the listeners? I thought you were going to say, can we get him on the show? Mr. Luke and Mr. Andrew?

01:08:17 - 01:08:25 | Speaker 2:

I mean, I think so. I think the listeners have shown me way more respect than I deserve, frankly. That's actually true.

01:08:25 - 01:08:34 | Speaker 1:

In the words of Mo Sislak, I don't deserve this kind of shabby treatment. We do deserve this kind of shabby treatment.

01:08:35 - 01:09:23 | Speaker 2:

All right. Let's leave it there for emails today. Now, how about this? How about this? Do we want to play any Jim Neighbors songs to go out? Well, sure. I mean, can you give me a list? Do you have a list in front of you? All right. These are the most popular on Spotify. The Impossible Dream. That's been played only 282,000 times. That's his most popular. Wow. The Impossible Dream. The Impossible Dream. 20 Fans. The Lord's Prayer. Love Me With All... I wonder what that's about. I have no idea. Love Me With All Your Heart. It looks like then it's also in Spanish. You'll Never Walk Alone. Yeah, let's want to do that one. Yes. En Español, por favor Well, it looks like it's like the song will probably contain Lyrics of both English and Spanish

01:09:23 - 01:09:44 | Speaker 1:

Okay, we'll go out with a little Gym Neighbors And thank everyone for listening, thanks for being here We'll be right back here tomorrow with more Imaginary radio for you Yeah We'll see you tomorrow, until then, enjoy the gym Neighbors, stay safe, mask up And please remember, no mountain too tall And good luck to all Is this Italian?

01:09:44 - 01:09:52 | Speaker 2:

This is good Do I have the language wrong though? I'm embarrassed Hold on, let me listen

01:10:00 - 01:10:07 | Speaker 1:

How do you say Shazam in Italian? All right, bye, everybody.

01:10:30 - 01:10:42 | Speaker 2:

Love me with all of your heart That's all I want, love Love me with all of your heart

01:10:42 - 01:10:54 | Speaker 1:

Or not at all Don't give me your love For a moment, for an hour Love me always

01:10:54 - 01:11:07 | Speaker 2:

As you love me from the start Power out.

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