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My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. As Jay would say, he's got flow. Happy to be back in the comfortable confines of the Nest Broadcast Center, high in the sky, above Portland, Oregon. Noise! Where we're looking at a hazy, but as of right now, dry day. I told you, yesterday in Boise, it was declared the beginning of spring. I don't know what the story is here in Portland. I've only been here for, I've been in Portland for two hours, and in that two hours, I have generated two hours of radio content. And now I'm entering hour three, because I'm a content creation machine, everyone. Did I say it was good content? No. Did I say it was content? Very much yes. Speaking of which, here we are at episode 3370 in a collector's series.

Let the fun begin.

I want to tell you what's going on with a certain digital company that will take photos of your deceased loved ones and animate them in a way that the person appears in the photo to still be very much alive. I can't decide if this is a really great thing for people to connect with loved ones who are no longer with us or if it's on the creepier side of things. Also, if you, maybe you were one of those people who went hard on the GameStop stock and you lost your shirt, how about buying some shoes? That is to say, how about investing in the lucrative world of Yeezys?

That cash could really get me out of a couple of jams.

There was a story a week or so ago in Bloomberg Businessweek about a young man here in Portland or in the Portland area who has just had this incredibly lucrative business selling hard to find basketball shoes and sneakers and apparel. And in the article, he declined to disclose to the reporter where he might be getting some of his information on what to buy and when and how much to buy of it. And then he called the reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek and something very interesting happened with the caller ID. So we'll talk about that as well, plus emails and vmails. Oh, and this guy. He's actually launching his own streetwear line. Long pants, shoes on, button-down shirt, whatever. He is Andrew Welsh, and he is joining us right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. Happy Pot-a-versary. Please explain. You don't remember our anniversary? Are we really going to have this trope of an argument on the show?

I think what I'll tell you is goldfish I forgot And I'm going to say to you Oh yes I am an elephant What is this the anniversary of? Like your first show as official co-bro?

On March 2nd, 2015 Episode number 1807 Ah we were merely in the 1800s then Episode titled Dad, Hair, and Lucky Teeth Luke and Andrew celebrate their new relationship

with the Infinite Guest Network in traditional TBTL fashion by over-explaining their anxieties and getting distracted by Rudy the Dog's Barking.

It's an audiophile's nightmare.

March 2nd was the day that we broadcast our first show with American Public Media, a.k.a. back then Infinite Guest. All of this was brought to my attention by one Kiki Lolo, who apparently, we didn't start working with her until years later, but she celebrates a very similar APM-iversary. She also started with the company this week, which is why she remembered. Well, shout out to our guy for bringing us aboard all those years ago.

I feel less bad now because what I forgot was a time when you and I did a thing together, but we were already partnered up. I thought maybe this was the, like, anniversary of, like, the first time you came on TBTL or the first time, you know, we did a show together with you as the official co-bro of the show. Those would have been worse if I forgot those. Also, you could tell me those were in 1986, and I would say that mostly checks out. I have no idea when those dates are either, but I'm just glad I'm only being called in on this one, Andrew.

Well, I was just joking. I wouldn't be offended that you didn't remember that. In fact, I didn't remember it until Kiki Lolo gave me the heads up yesterday. And also, if you recall, this time last year, or if you can just do the math, it was our five-year anniversary. And I was reminded of that by one David Kansas, CEO of American Public Media. What? Didn't we both get handwritten notes from Dave Kansas? What? You got one, too. In the mail, we got a little handwritten note that said, congratulations on five years with APM. You don't remember that. Wait. Luke, you don't remember the one-year anniversary of getting a note from Dave Kansas celebrating five years at APM?

I don't know if you've heard, but I've had a few things going on in my life, which may have blotted out my email. And by the way, Dave Kansas had a few things going on in his life professionally as well. So, wow. Um, you know, Andrew, look, I'm sorry. I don't remember all of these dates and facts and figures. It's because my life is just a constant blur of content creation. As I said at the top of the show, and I'm not, I know it sounds like I'm complaining and I'm not trying to complain because I say this almost every day on the show. I feel so lucky that this is our job. I feel so lucky, Andrew, that this, as I've mentioned before, is the five-year anniversary of us, the six-year anniversary of us, what was it?

The six-year anniversary of us joining APM. Today is the one-year anniversary of Dave Kansas congratulating us for celebrating five years of APM. Exactly.

March 5th, Monday, March 5th of 2015. No, I am extremely lucky that this is a job that I can actually do and make a living doing it. And that goes for all of the things that I have been lucky enough for people to say, hey, would you like to come do this into a microphone for money? Like, that's a very, very privileged position to be in. That being said, I have just been in a tornado of content creation the last 24 hours that leaves me completely frazzled. I can't make any promises about this episode. I mean, usually, obviously, I am highly focused. I am extremely detail-oriented. I'm quick with a response. I'm the picture of broadcast professionality. You're tweeting while you say that. Yesterday, I would have said professionalism. Today, yesterday, or maybe Friday when I was really on my game, I would have said professionalism. Today, when I'm off my game, I say professionality. But I've also had 11 cups of coffee because I got up at about 4.30 this morning in Boise, got on a plane, flew here, came directly to my house and then immediately started interviewing Andrew Bird and Jimbo, his collaborator on this new album. and then we rolled right into live wire and then we rolled right into this and it's and like yesterday i was doing a bunch of different things in boise so i i have to apologize my head is a

little scattered right now okay well um that's all right uh i should have a second well let's see i was going to go for like 30 minutes on the anniversary thing but uh let's see that can we're gonna burn that up quicker than i thought what else can i offer you um what's going on in my life that you would like to know about i don't do we know when you're for do we know when your

first episode was on the show i mean i know your first appearance you came on to talk about your telemarketing job right either that is It's funny. I don't even know this. I came on twice as a guest before I was on the show. And one time was to talk about telemarketing. Another time was to talk about my runaway note. And I don't know which of those came first. I don't like being hollered at. Because I was working at Cairo Radio, I believe producing you at the time, producing your and Dave's show. and coincidentally my mom was going through some old papers and she found the note that I wrote when I ran away from home in fourth grade it was a whirlwind 90 minutes no how long was I probably out there I don't know three hours four hours or something all I know is it got it got I bet you

it was there oh so you you think you were really out there for three or four hours that's a long

time actually for in a kid brain I came home from school probably let's say I got home from school like sometime in the four o'clock hour right and i knew that whatever i was in trouble about i had several things i was in trouble about that were kind of stacking up and i remember i can't i just i had been thinking about running away for a while we lived in the country too so that made it a little bit difficult i couldn't like take a train to the museum and hide out um in the bathroom until uh everybody cleared out and then have the museum to myself um what a night i'm actually thinking of uh from the mixed-up files of mrs basil e frankweiler um which is uh that's

the plot of that show i was thinking from the robin williams vehicle a night at the museum

right which is probably one and two kids ran away or not but anyway um so i remember like thinking okay i i gotta get out of here man i just gotta throw some stuff in a bindle and get out of here so i remember taking a few apples i think a couple of granola bars and emptying out uh the change jar in the kitchen which you know this is the 80s a lot of change in there went a long way a lot of quarters is good stuff threw that into a bag threw all that into my backpack I believe and then hit the road walk down Crocker Road and then I think I only went two roads away but they're long roads they're country roads and then found a place where I could sneak into the woods and then sat by a river and thought about my decision for a while as it got darker and colder you're right it probably was it was certainly was not four hours but it was definitely dark by the time the fact that

you were able to observe a change in the light conditions yes and those are the kind of things those are the parts of the memory that make me think okay this is probably accurate because i remember my famous time of running away from home which really was probably 10 minutes i went down to the end of our our street where we lived near northgate mall and i leaned against a uh a fire hydrant oh right and i remember vividly it was dark because cars were driving by and some of them were slowing like why is there a six-year-old with his arms crossed angrily leaned against this fire hydrant in the dark now this was seattle so it could have been dark at 5 30 but i just remember very much what the light conditions were and that makes me think you're probably not wrong as to this being something that was at least a couple of hours yeah i definitely went out in the afternoon

and then it was dark when and then what happened was i decided at a certain point it's time to come home it's time to just go face whatever I was running away from I think I had some like homework that had to be signed because I hadn't done it or some bad grades with but I had also recently for the first time in my life tried to defend myself physically because people had been bullying me and you know beating me up my entire life but then this kid Patrick who lived down the street he tried it and he was a nerd and I was like the nerds can't beat up on the nerds I was appalled by this and also patrick was supposed to be a friend so i messed up his face like that's the problem when you don't messed up his face like you got off a couple of good shots yeah like you when i don't know how to fight because i never fight and so like i probably would i'd be better at fighting if maybe i'd gotten just a few you know what i mean like when you don't punch anybody your whole life and suddenly you're curling up your fist you're like i guess i'm gonna punch you in the face now and i just started messing up his face and gave him like a bloody lip and a black eye it's not funny why am I laughing and the thing is of course he lived just down the street on Crocker Road from us so then one day and I know I've told this many times a knock came on our front door right after dinner it's like the front door nobody comes to the front door this is somebody like who doesn't know us well or whatever yes and it was Patrick and his dad and his dad practically picking up Patrick by the scruff of his jacket and being like look what your son did to my boy and then I got in a lot of trouble so that was what i was referring to in the note when i said something like i don't like being hollered at or there was something in my note which i don't have in front of me right now you'd think it would be my um you know my desktop picture on my computer but it's not uh but i think

it was like can someone make andrew a needlepoint no don't of this note which has been read on the show before somebody could find it and transcribe it it actually gives me a bit of a bad feeling so So please make no art out of that. But. But there's a time of year. And the funny thing is, like, as I remember, the temperature was was was cool. And I I don't know if it was like fall or if it was just like the end of winter coming into spring. I feel like it's that because I think I remember little bits of snow, like kind of around the river. But every now and then when the weather gets a certain way or it hits my nose in a certain the air hits my nose in a certain brisk way before face masks, it'll like transport me there. And it gives me kind of a bad feeling. But anyway, yeah, that's why I ran away. I kind of I tried to lay it. I tried to lay on like the hypocrisy part as much as possible, try to make it my parents fault. Like you tell me to stick up for myself and I stick for myself. Now I'm grounded. What's with this? But I don't think my parents ever told me to bloody a kid's face in their defense.

I have so much to say about this one. That was probably the last time that you were in a physical altercation.

well this is interesting because i had one other really lame punch that i remember punching my friend steve udich in the back of the head or kind of in the side of the head as he turned away from me he was trying to start a fight with me in high school and i was too like wimp like i was just i didn't know i was all flustered i didn't know what to do and again steve was my friend and he was about the same like kind of social class as i was and so i remember he turned away outside of a math class and to go into the class and then i just that's when i decided fine i'll punch you now and i punch him in the back of the head and it didn't land really well the problem with this story is luke he's a listener he's now a listener and we're in touch and i was talking to him on the phone about a year ago or maybe the beginning of the pandemic and he says not me nope not me i have no recollection of that and i probably got concussed from your point it's the only explanation it's one of those conversations where it's like I know I am so clear in my head that it was him oh I believe you remember he is so clear that it wasn't him though wow so and he's not maybe it was a Mandela effect time glitch

maybe you really punched Steve Udich in the back of the head and he has forgotten it because he's moved into a different time stream

maybe I punched Shazam in the back of the head and a Berenstain bear was there watching that's exactly I don't so yeah It's just one of those things that makes me not trust my memory at all.

Well, the reason that I asked when your last punch was because, of course, I have the theory that you don't consider yourself to be a great fighter. But I think that when you if you were ever to punch someone again, you would literally punch them into space. You have had now 30 years between events and all you've been doing is just building up your chi. like unintentionally through like walking through the grocery store and seeing things that frustrate you and this that and the other it's just been building somebody like me i rage out pretty often there's not actually that much gas in the tank anymore you have a pressure release valve that's what you need i've been releasing i've released pressure throughout many failed relationships andrew and that combined with low t means i i pose little threat anymore to the public but i feel like one day someone's gonna cross you and and you'll be on the side of justice You wouldn't get into a physical altercation over parking. I'm talking about like in the movie of your life, you know, or the Little House on the Prairie episode, Paul Ingalls, he only fought when it was absolutely justified. He never punched down. He only punched up. And I know you would follow the same principle. But when you decide one day to punch up, it is curtains for whoever is on the receiving end of that, Andrew, because it would be like a real it's going to be punching up.

It's going to be an uppercut. It's just going to be like a 30 year punch. I can see a cartoon of me, like the power bar on the video game of my life is well into the red, and then suddenly you let go of the B button, and then you just hear the character scream, I said polite car, and then like an uppercut, and then.

I'm like Doc the trainer in Mike Tyson's Punch-Out, and you've just hit select so that my arm is going more quickly on your Mac in this one's shoulder, which helps Mac have more power when he comes out of the corner, but you only get to use it once per opponent, I believe. It's that. In martial arts, there are the five-finger punch, or there's the one that's in Kill Bill, which is probably made up, which is like the exploding death palm punch or something. Yours is going to be called The 30-Year Punch.

The 30-Year Punch.

It's just 30 years of stuffing it down. It's a very long-term project to master The 30-Year Punch.

Yeah.

It takes 30 years. It's the mortgage of punches. But so that's one thing. And then the other thing I was going to say is I asked when your first episode was as the official real co-bro because what would be kind of fun sometime would be to go back. If we're ever just out of ideas, if we're ever just truly at a loss, we should go back and listen.

to the very first time you were officially the co-host of this show and just what our interaction was like and how similar or dissimilar it is to how we are now. My guess is it's exactly similar. My guess is that I said something about your 30-year punch on day one of you being the official co-bro of the show.

Well, how many Venn diagram references are there? My guess is it is significantly different. Now, I don't think I've ever gone back and listened to that episode, But for various reasons, I have, you know, stumbled back every now and then and heard some earlier episodes. And I think in the first year or two, I remember saying to you, maybe even on the show, like, my job here is so that there's somebody to laugh at your jokes. Like, I saw myself very much like as just very much in the sidecar or maybe even in the backseat. Like, I'm here to bring some energy, you know, so you're not just a man in a room talking to himself. But I really tried to like not butt in Whereas now as you well know I butt in all the time So I think that I really took like Kind of a more of a backseat approach

Are you saying you haven't listened back to that Well I don't think you or I For as much as we do gaze at our respective navels I don't think we're big We don't revisit old episodes of the show that much So maybe you just haven't listened to it Because it never occurred to you Or is it that you feel like if you were to listen to it you would kind of not feel great about how it went well I don't know

you know the the oldest episode I've listened to with me on it that I can remember and this was actually sometime during the pandemic I went back and I listened to this episode I remember going for a walk is I was reminded and I'm just driving me crazy that I can't think of it although I think you'll be able to piece this together we had more guests on the show back then and I was reminded of a guest we had on the show who had just written a comic book, and she is a Seattle

writer. Ellen Forney. Forney,

yes. What was her book? It was about mental illness in some way, or it was a struggle she had. Yeah, I think it was called

Marbles, maybe? God, yes!

You still got it.

You beautiful bastard. Yes. That's exactly what it was. The only thing I can ever do to impress you is remember the occasional detail.

But I mean, yes. Anyway, I remember reading that book in anticipation of having her on the show I remember being very into it I think I even tried to go see her book talk after like I remember being just very impressed by it and very impressed by her and somebody tweeted about this book maybe last May or something again kind of springtime pandemic I was I don't know if you recall I was taking about 10 walks a day about 10 miles each and I was like I'll just listen back to that episode like just relive the glory days a little bit you me Ellen Forney just kicking it Yeah, talking about depression in graphic novels. And I embarrassed myself within the – I mean, this is me now. This is something that we recorded in 2012, I'm going to guess, maybe 2013. And I'm listening back in 2020, and I immediately hated myself so much. I don't know what I said at the beginning of that, but I was like trying to be funny or over-explain something. It was like torture. I stopped it immediately. I could not listen. So I don't think you would think that the more time that passes, the easier it would be for me to like kind of go easy on myself or be like, oh, yeah, that wasn't bad at all. But I didn't like me in that episode. I'll tell you that much.

You know what I've noticed about in particular TVTL as far as my experience of doing it and then my experience of listening back to episodes on the odd occasion? And it would probably to be if I'm being completely honest, it probably happened if I were mildly tuned up. And I just had a thought and I was like, oh, I wonder what I wonder. Oh, that was fun. Or I wonder if that was as funny as I remember or whatever. When I go back and listen to something that I think went well, it never went as well as I thought it went. And when I listen back to something that I am sure was a major disaster, literally a major disaster, it's never as much of a major disaster as I thought it was. It's just the highs aren't as high and the lows aren't as low.

I can tell you what we were doing at the beginning of that episode, by the way, is Ellen was there. You know, we're sitting in your studio and, you know, live. And so she's not live on the air, but you know what I mean? Like she's there. We didn't punch her interview in later. And so she's sitting there while you're doing the intro and she's listening to all the drops and everything. And then she's like, what is that? Maybe you played the big purple balls drop. You played something by Cisco, the radio gardener. Right. And then the first five minutes is you just kind of emptying the file on all of your Cisco sound and her talking. And then me, I think, just wedging my –

Oh, you're going to love to listen Tweedle out of this. And then me trying to wedge my way.

Allium, about 30-inch tall stems, maybe a little less. I like the platy between plants. And up come these just beautiful purple balls. Big, beautiful balls. Wow. Oh, and then it goes to you doing your impression of Cisco. Sorry, that just auto-fired because it was the next thing.

That gets in your head. I'm on Ellen Forney's website now. She does not mention anything about me being a nerd, so that's good.

You know what's interesting about that? uh just i i'm not sure if that was literally the drop that i played but i think i would probably if we had a uh a guest that was in studio with us particularly that guest was a woman i probably wouldn't play cisco saying you know uh big beautiful purple balls which is just kind of like a silly kind of double entendre cisco is just such a national treasure that anything he says if it's if it's a little bit unintentionally you know naughty it just kind of becomes funny to me but like right now I guess I'm just observing this as like a way that you and I I think think very differently about how we talk on the show and even the drops that we play now then back even however many years ago that was like I would just never play that drop intentionally if we had a guest particularly if that guest was a woman yeah and my guess is by

the way i'm looking at this episode right now is may 26 2013 episode number 1350 that we thought 1850s were a long time ago but yeah so um you know this is this was probably almost exactly seven years that i was going back to listen to this and my guess is you my guess is you played a different cisco drop in the intro and then ellen was interested in it so then you started playing all of them and then it came up and i remember you know she thought it was all delightful

and funny yeah even just having somebody who is unfamiliar with the show sitting in the room with us while we're doing the beginning of the show is a very vulnerable place yeah when's the last

time that you've been in that because we used to do that all the time when's the last time you've sat in a room with a physical human being and done your banter spiel in front of them your intro like it's been years yeah particularly uh I mean we've done it with Camaro Kev yeah and

but that doesn't really count because Camaro Kev knows the show I think my buddy Misha Collins came on the show but he was also familiar with the program um and maybe we just started talking and then later I put the top of the show and I can't remember how that went down but yeah it's been a long time and even when you describe that well we didn't do that with Jeff Garland right from Curb Your Enthusiasm and the Goldbergs, right? Because, I mean, I don't think we needed to do anything to further alienate him. I don't know. He was confused as to why he was at my house to do the interview.

Well, no, you know what? You're right. I could only book him on a Saturday. I think that was a weekend recording, and so we booked him on a Saturday, and I didn't exactly tell the publicist that it was a podcast, and I didn't tell the publicist that it was at somebody's house, and I didn't tell them that there were 100 steps you had to walk up. Yeah, we almost lost that one. But, yeah, I do have a vague memory of being like, okay, we'll make Saturday work. So we just pre-recorded it, I think.

Yeah, that was, I would say, other than Rachel Dratch, I mean, the interview was actually pretty good, I thought. I mean, in fact, he said something that has literally stuck with me my whole life, right, which is if you wear the mask long enough, the mask fits. I believe that was from Jeff Garland. So once he was in the room and kind of talking and on, I thought he was great. when he was first entering the house he looked definitely confused i would say probably i could be forgetting someone but i would say probably the the worst an interview has gone in my time doing this show would be rachel drach um from saturday night live and 30 rock and a bunch of other things she was in town for the um seattle film festival because she was in a film that was playing there and uh i did not understand this at the time but she had been cast as the um the jane krakowski role on 30 rock uh and and and they did the pilot with her playing the jenna the jenna moroni character and so then she's and i believe she maybe had quit rachel had quit saturday night live to do that show i was unaware of this backstory what i knew was that i loved Rachel Dratch on 30 Rock because she continued to show up in these various cameos well this was a time where I don't think she was super comfortable talking about that because it became very awkward very fast she was really pretty shooken up by my questions and then it was like every question I asked her was somehow intentionally about something that she was more uncomfortable

talking about because I think you know I think I remembered that incorrectly in my head because I don't know if I heard, I think I must have listened to the interview at some point.

I thought you were just asking her about her cameos on 30 Rock, and she was a little bit reluctant to talk about it, and you later found out it was because she was supposed to be the Jenna role, but I have that wrong. You were asking her about the fact that she was supposed to play Jenna? Nope.

No. I was saying, my memory is, it's so fun, all of these great cameos and walk-ons you do with 30 Rock. I was asking that question or observing that without knowing the full story that she had actually been cast as the Jenna role and that this was kind of in a way a sort of a way that they were still involving her in the program but not in the original role.

So that is how I remembered it. Well, then that's a little bit – I mean that's a little bit on her, right? Or it's all on her. I mean, like, how are you supposed to know that you're not supposed to ask about her current project, which is doing a bunch of, you know, roles on NBC sitcom?

And I can't remember the other things, but I just remember this moment where I just realized I have really like that's I mean, even my Sigur Rós interview, that wasn't great. I didn't stop it at any point and go like, do you want to be here or like, you know, should we keep doing this or I'm so sorry, have I offended you? I feel like there might have even been a moment in that Rachel Dratch interview where I was like, clearly we've gotten off on the wrong foot here, and I really apologize. But I just remember trying furiously to dig my way out of the awkward hole I had dug and it just getting deeper and then seeing Rachel Dratch look across at the director of the film she was there to promote and maybe it was one of her co-stars or something, of her just being totally and completely unhappy with the interview and crying at one point I think maybe when it was over. I'm pretty sure that there were tears now here's the thing that's interesting I happened to catch Rachel Dratch on a on a podcast that Helen Hong does called Go Fact Yourself it's a great little show where it's a quiz element there's an interview and Rachel Dratch was on that show and I was listening and I thought to myself we'll see how this goes because Rachel Dratch is a notoriously sensitive person About these topics they immediately go Hey so you were supposed to be the Jenna Maroney Character on 30 Rock and she was Just like yeah I know and then I wasn't and then I Did all these other things and then she was just like Just rolling with it so I am hoping that that means That she has you know That that is not as a painful A topic for her to talk about but I would also like To say could you have healed a little faster Well I'm looking at this So it's not to help create The most awkward interview moment of my life if i can center myself in the story for a minute so you had her on i'm looking

at the episode now it's hour one may 22nd 2009 so first of all the show is you know probably less than a year old at that point or just over i can't i can't remember you started in the fall of 2008 i think um so the show is relatively new 30 rock is in its third season now so that does change what i said a little bit too so for drach her cameo season is probably over it's probably been a couple of years since she's even been on the show does that scan with you like how long i don't know if she only had one season i think it was i mean i think she was on the show throughout oh no i mean oh no no sir we watched that show like crazy in this house so it was one year so you think they were trying to fill out her contract basically i don't let me look up uh i can figure out right now what year but i'll tell you she was not on that show until the end i mean maybe maybe she made an appearance in the last season which i don't think i watched every but no that she's not a that was just a bit they did i think at the beginning hmm interesting because i remember her

being a cat wrangler like uh you know somebody who was i worked at nbc but was like sort of wrangling cats at one point i remember her being a kind of a weird blue character but that could have all just been in the same season, I guess. I remember her being Happy Valentine's, the woman of the night that Jack Donaghy is sort of cavorting with. Here's what I'm getting from the internet.

This is a little broad, but it gets us closer. Originally, from 2006 to 2012, originally cast as Jenna DiCarlo, by the way, different last name, later recast appearances in 15 episodes, seasons one five and six so my guess is she's probably in most of season one those 15 and then maybe is appears in one episode each of five and six maybe i also may have caught her at the

especially most painful moment because if you're saying that season three of 30 rock it's like it's you know she's she was cast in this in this really cool role it didn't end up happening then there was this cameos now the cameos aren't happening uh they will more will come later but I think I may have just – our paths may have crossed at a particularly unfortunate time for both. I was – dead and didn't even know it we would be fired months from months later we would be canceled yeah so uh so who knows but anyway um i was it was funny to hear her talk very casually and with great humor about the exact same topics that we have been talking about that had been very very very sensitive uh some years previous yeah and i think that you know she's probably

just in a better place now with her career hey can i there's something i've been thinking about for the past two weeks and we should take a break but yes i don't know this is a bad idea or a good idea or just more work for me even if it is a good idea but I don't know if you saw I tweeted out under the tbtl banner the other day like a couple of weeks ago oh I know I was stalling on the newsletter I didn't know what to write about I'm like what were we doing on this day like five years ago or something and so I just went to our website and dialed it up and I tweeted out like hey this is what Luke and I were doing five years ago on the show uh here here's a link I don't know if it's good or not like and i would it be that's something that you guys did that jen did i believe she prepped it maybe you did it um like this day in tbtl history do you remember what the guidelines were around that because like now no so i think the the spoof was at first that you were doing that and your show was only a year old maybe yeah and you were probably if i know cairo radio you probably were thinking what can we do to just fill out a segment where i don't have to talk like at the end of an hour or something i don't know if that's true or not but um should we figure out some sort of structure in like like maybe once a week or something do like this day in tbtl history or is that just stealing jen's thing well uh you know i'm we've stolen many of

jen's things and continued on with them so that doesn't seem like a big issue to me really the question is can we get a listener to volunteer for this production work oh that's interesting Maybe whoever is sending us an email every day Telling us what show number we're on Maybe they can find a friend who will I don't literally mean it should be the same person But maybe somebody else wants to send us some This days, that'd be kind of fun to play Although I will say this, when I listen to I'm a big Howard Stern show listener And on Sirius Satellite they've got Two channels, Howard 100, Howard 101 When it's a Howard from like 20 years ago and his voice is higher I'm not as Interested Now maybe our show has evolved Less our show has evolved more slowly So that the boring stuff we were saying 10 years ago is pretty similar to the boring Stuff we're saying now so there wouldn't be You know like Howard 20 years Ago Howard Stern is like trying to You know have sex with people Through the his microphone and the speaker At someone's house like it's like a Very kind of specific Sound of what he was trying to do And now he's pretty thoughtful and Puts together a very different show so maybe that's what contributes to it but i'm just wondering would people want to even hear tbtl from

10 years ago well here's what i was thinking and i'm still not convinced that it's a good idea i was thinking short i mean i was assuming i would pick it because of course i'm so sensitive that i would have to pick it because it'd have to be safe tape for me um it also might be a project that just finally kills me like i just implode with embarrassment going back and that sounds bad yeah that doesn't that's an argument against that's a con um but uh but i was thinking like you know two or three minutes tops you know what i mean not not taking over huge chunks of the show but just like oh this was kind of funny you know on this date we were um we got into an argument about uh i don't know uh condiments or what have you and we just like play a bit of it but i don't know if there's enough payoff in that so let's just keep that let's just keep let's table that

put a pin in it circle back okay i was looking for the serial show the other day because i was telling somebody about how you had put together that amazing intro oh i just linked to it in the newsletter i think as somebody and i was looking for it i reached out to a certain uh associate producer of the program who over prefers to not be named and they sent me uh the info but i before that i was i was sort of combing the tbtl archives and i was struck by two things one God we've done a lot of shows Yeah Just What the hell And then also Some of them seem pretty funny Like As I was scrolling through The descriptions And seeing the pictures And the show titles I was like You know For one brief Shining moment I get it I get why people Actually listen to this

Right Yeah Yeah It's good for us to remember That every now and then That we're not total losers

But not too much Not too much You know Cocky Alright Let's take a quick break And when we come back We will thank some of the people that have latched on to this idea of TBTL, so much so that they're supporting the program.

Sorry, last thing. I just went in the archives just for a second. I wanted to see if I could find five years ago today. I couldn't, but anyway, the last episode we did of 2016 was titled You're Listening to Fresh Ears. I'm Doug Davies, and I don't know how we ended up there. Okay, it's official. We're bringing back this day in TBTL.

history okay okay sorry go ahead sorry all right we're gonna do a quick break

i'm gonna mute the microphone while this ambulance goes by and then we'll be back with more tbtl stay with us all right let's thank some donors of the day as i mentioned before the break These are people who I mean They don't need any convincing that TBTL has value Because they're supporting TBTL They're making it happen They're people like Troy Tortorich Of Lake Stevens, Washington Home of Camaro Kevin And who else? Both JD and Thunder Our friends Also Chris Pratt Is there a post office in that area? Are we allowed to say that? Also, Dykstra is from there. I don't think the post office is actually in Lake Stevens. Oh, okay. As in the place you go to listen to Post Malone. Right. I think his place is out in some other part of the northern region of the exurbs of Seattle. So I don't know exactly. I'm actually not trying to be intentionally vague. I just literally don't know. what the technical jurisdiction he is in. And I do use the word jurisdiction intentionally. But yeah, no, I mean, Dykstra's from there. All those guys all met at Lake Stevens High, which is also Lake Stevens where Troy lives. Thank you, Troy, for supporting the program. Lucy Wu is in Renton, Washington. Lucy, thank you for supporting the show. Home of the S-Curves, one-time home of the Fry's, RIP. Lucy, if you're not busy this week Could you go down to the VMAC That's where the Seahawks practice And could you put a word in with Russell Wilson's camp That we would like him to please And I'm not saying this like the way that Jenny Durkin said I'm not telling other cities to quote-unquote Keep their eyes off of Russell Wilson I'm asking Lucy as a resident of Renton To go over there and just make the case For Russell Wilson staying in Seattle

If you could whisper in somebody's ear over this whole flap over whether or not Russell Wilson will stick around in Seattle. Do you really think the path to success is whispering in Russell Wilson's ear, or do you think it's whispering in management's ear to do right by Russell? That's a great question.

I mean, I just, we're not here to talk. I'm the one who brought this up, so it's like I can't believe now I'm saying let's not get too sporty, but I think we can agree that Lucy is the linchpin to this whole thing.

Yeah, Lucy definitely has to have the conversation. Definitely Lucy has to have the conversation. I'm just wondering if going to Russell directly, I think Russell knows what's up. I think management needs to know what's up.

I think that, yeah, I mean, to be honest with you, I haven't really read the details of the story because it makes me feel physically unsafe to think about Russell Wilson not being the salesman, which is kind of funny because there's a million times where I'm screaming at my TV, throw the ball, Russ. I mean, every year since the last time the Seahawks won the Super Bowl, a team that didn't have Russell Wilson has won the Super Bowl. So it's not like the only possible happiness for me as a fan comes by way of that guy playing for our team. But, I mean, it is – that is probably – Russell Wilson and the Seahawks and me being a viewer is the most successful relationship I've been a part of in the last 15 years. So I've got a lot invested in him and that team. So I haven't like I don't want to I don't want to read the rumors and the various, you know, the teams, a list of teams that are on his approved trade list, because if I start to read those things, then they're real. And I can't I can't live in a world where those things are real, Andrew.

Well, it sounds like you're dealing with this in a very healthy way. So that's good.

Lucy, I'm just saying the stakes are very, very high for me. Thank you. Also, I don't know what Sarah Longino DeKalb can do. From Moxie, Washington. Like that. Did we look Moxie up last year? On this day in TBTL history, did we look up? I feel like we looked up Moxie, Washington, because it's such a cool name for a town. I'm looking at where this is. It's near Birchfield. It's in Yakima.

Okay.

Yeah. It's in Yakima County, Washington. Yep. Beautiful part of the world. I would live in a town called Moxie. I just feel like you're going to be able to get things done if you live in a place called Moxie.

Reminding you what the tri-cities are, Kennewick is one of them, right? Richland and Hanford, maybe? Oh, okay. Hanford seems wrong to me. Yeah, because Hanford is...

the name of the nuclear facility.

Yeah, I think it's where Hanford is, but I don't think it's called Hanford. But anyway, so Moxie's kind of near Kennewick. It's kind of in that

area. Thank you so much, Sarah, for checking in from Moxie, Washington. And then Catherine McFadden is right here in Portland, Oregon. I didn't know Catherine.

Met her at a picnic. Oh, yeah. She's got a sister who lives in Boston. That's the Catherine. Yes. Got it. Twin sister, right? My twin sister lives in Boston. Yes, two longtime listeners of the show.

Twin sister's name is Matherin, right?

Matherin McFadden. Catherine and Matherin McFadden? That's right, exactly.

God, I love those McFadden twins. Thanks, Catherine. Appreciate you. Thanks to all of our donors of the day throughout this year for making the show possible. We would not be here without you. Thank you, baby.

Thank you, baby.

Oh, thank you, baby.

Here I go. Once again, with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man. It's not from a female.

Do we even mention it, Andrew? Or do we just let people think they've lost their damn minds? What do you mean? Anyway, I enjoyed those top stories, Luke.

Boy, you really brought it with the headlines today. Thank you.

What do we call that? I know there's a bunch of terminology for over the river and past the river and approaching the river. But what is it when we not only do we not do the top stories, we literally don't acknowledge they exist. We just are yapping it up, and then it's just time for emails and V-mails. And the top stories, it's as if they never even were part of the plan for the show. I feel like the Stew Bot actually has a name for that.

It's like the Power River or something. I don't remember exactly what it is, but I'll text him later.

We have a couple of great top stories for tomorrow's show that we didn't get to today, but we are going to definitely, definitely get to them tomorrow. So tune in for that. Meanwhile, what's going on in the email of email department? A few.

Actually, since we are coming right out of thanking the donors, I would like to talk a little bit about some of these cities we've been talking about. Longview, Long Beach, Oceanside. Speaking of the Stewbot, he wanted us to know that Oceanside, California, his dear wife Mandy went to 7th through 9th grade there. Her dad was stationed at Camp Pendleton, and the school is often used as an external shot in TV and movies like Veronica Mars and American Vandal.

So those are some dazzling deets from our boy Stew. I was planning on using those next year when Oceanside comes up again, but okay.

No, that's good. I mean, I know that we have a policy of never repeating ourselves on the show, but in this one instance, I think it's okay. But that brought me to an email we got from Matt, who says, on Friday's show, Luke mentioned the longest beach in the U.S. being in Longview. I grew up in Longview. I don't remember that particular dazzling detail. I think Luke was thinking of the aptly name Long Beach, Washington, and I had seen that somewhere else, too.

somebody's like no yeah on twitter people have been people have been letting me know and not in the nicest terms um that yeah i was wrong about that but it was probably was the nicest terms though it probably wasn't yeah no you wouldn't have liked it no i don't think a little harsh just i need any kind of like correction to be started with i needed to the preface to be tv tell is the best show that's ever existed and luke all of the content that you create even in a 24-hour tornado of content is good and entertaining and the best that's all i and then by the way while you were entertaining us with your amazing um delightful personality there was one small detail that turned out to not be correct based on the current set of facts we know about and and that was this we will try to get the factual record changed so as to reflect what you said i like that's how the tony kornheiser listeners talk to him that's right and you know

like even if you wanted to start it by saying like it makes sense that you would make this mistake because you were probably confused by your own handsomeness it's hard exactly so handsome and so right all of the time we understand you're juggling plates but anyway thank you so it wasn't that so long beach has a long beach that should be good to remember but while we're in this whole mode of dazzling details for next year's, the next time these places come up, Matt says I do have some dazzling deets about Longview for future reference, so write these down too, Luke, and remember them Number one, Longview is the largest planned city in the U.S. east of the Mississippi So it must have been

like a company town is that what a planned city is i don't actually know uh i guess my my hunch would be a planned city i mean i know about planned communities you know but like a planned city i guess would be there's no city there and then it's all sort of mapped out before it's built as opposed to a cluster of cabins that are then replaced by a bit you know newer structures and then we just keep building more homes and then we should we should put a gas station and grocery store in and things growing sort of more organically that way yeah a planned city is something that

there's a plan for yes it's a planned community planned city planned town i'm getting this all from wikipedia they seem to be interchangeable and it's exactly what you just said as opposed to just growing up you know ad hoc and organically it is quote any community that was carefully planned from its inception and is typically constructed on previously undeveloped land

So I wonder what the sort of forces were that caused Longview, Washington to be a planned city. I just must have been some demographic things going on where it was like or there was some kind of, you know, industry there or company that I don't know about. Well, that that was like necessitated planning out a city.

Not that it's a contest, but in the dazzling details that Matt brings us, I think this next one is even more interesting. Longview has a bridge made for squirrels, and it's called the Nutty Narrows Bridge, Luke. Oh, you like that. Do you know about the Nutty Narrows Bridge? I don't. But I also thought that Longview had the longest beach in the world. Right. The Nutty Narrows was named by a local councilwoman after the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. Before the bridge was built, squirrels had to avoid speeding traffic by running across the street. This is so up your alley to eat a nutty feast at an office building. And back again on March 9th, 1963, Amos Peters, that sounds like a historical name, Amos Peters.

That guy 100% had mutton chops.

Oh, certainly. Probably a bit of a booming voice, I'm going to guess. After seeing many squirrels being flattened, decided to protect the squirrels and give them a way to cross the busy thoroughfare without getting killed. The original Skybridge was built over Olympia Way near the Civic Center in downtown Longview. It looks like it was then taken down and rebuilt, et cetera, et cetera. So that's pretty cool. That's a good dazzling deed for next year. Also, I think there is a Green Day song, says Matt, called Longview about how much Longview sucks. Oh, wow.

I wonder if Green Day was touring through there in their early days and had a bad experience. Where are they from? They're a Pacific Northwest band, right? Green Day? They're from, I think, the Bay Area. I think they're from, like, allegedly they're from Oakland or something like that. Oh, okay, okay. The facts that I know about Longview are all related to Columbia Heights Christian School. Actually, it's probably not called that. Whatever the Christian School in Longview is, and that was where the junior high convention would be when I was in middle school. And we would go down there, and we would take part in all kinds of competitions. and i stayed at the uh you know it was the kind of thing where like you would stay at someone's house like a student from longview would host you like from the christian school and i remember i stayed with a student and he had an older sister who was probably in like maybe 10th grade i don't remember i thought she was the most beautiful creature i had ever laid eyes on in my life i was pretty sure i was going to marry her um i don't remember her name i don't remember the name Of the person who I stayed with I just remember falling deeply In love with, anytime I got to be Around a girl Who wasn't literally a member of my family I felt deeply in love, Andrew And this was one of those times So that happened in Longview I know that about, and that's pretty much it

That's my main fact

A lot of stuff for next year, I'm happy about that Can I quickly Give you one more city related Little piece of Information that can come up Next time we read a thank you to somebody who's in Manhattan, Kansas. Brett said, hey, do you know what the nickname of Manhattan, Kansas is? It is the little apple. Oh, nice. That's really good. Brett says, I promise you, this is the town's marketing slogan. That's great. I love that Manhattan, Kansas has embraced that it's the little apple.

Why didn't Brett copy me on that? That Brett from the U District

He did? Yeah Cheers Brett your U District And I'm looking at your email address right here Andrew at tbtl.net Yeah well then My apologies Brett For not looking more carefully at my email I think that's a really I like it that they're I mean to me that That they're embracing it That they're They're not trying to compete with New York City That they're not being like We're the other Manhattan Right Washington State style Right right right Yeah that I always hate did that. When I started at KUOW and people would say, oh, the other Washington. I'd always try to take that out of scripts and then it always ended up back in the script. The other Washington. It just seemed like such a it seemed provincial somehow. Anyway. Hey, some listeners, Luke, very excited about the butter talk we did last week. Got a couple of emails that the subject line was just butter with an exclamation point. It did not seem to be a group effort. Jennifer says, I grew up with a grandma who would not let you eat any bread, even sticky buns without butter, because you might choke on dry bread. Wow. This is Wisconsin, in case you were wondering. Yeah, that's a few scans. That might be why I had a taste for a pat of butter on my chicken breast as a kid, and let's not forget festive holiday butter molds or making butter in a jar for the school Thanksgiving. So I did not know about that at all. I feel like butter

Butter sculptures are really having a moment outside of the Midwest right now around Christmas time. I don't know how long this has been going on, Andrew, but this year I noticed many times when I was in the grocery store and people were buying these little kind of butter statues for the holidays. And I had never noticed that being a thing in the Northwest.

I certainly I mean, I even grew up closer to the upper Midwest, you know, in Ohio. I don't remember butter sculptures being part of my youth or culture at all. just my grandpa eating straight butter

I will say that that idea of I don't know why I didn't put more butter on more things as a kid because a lot of the stuff I ate was pretty under seasoned and over boiled and not the greatest but even like just hearing oh put some butter on a chicken breast yeah that would really zazzle it up like everything is better and I don't work for the dairy industry in fact I have some questions not questions that I want to interrogate enough that I'm going to stop eating cheese and sour cream. But I'm not saying I'm super pro dairy industry, but I do think a little butter on everything makes it a little better. I've been cooking a lot more with butter

lately. Like when I was, you know, I don't know. I didn't grow up cooking, as you know. So just as an adult, slowly and surely, I spend a little bit more time in the kitchen. And what I'm going to say is super obvious to most everybody listening. But, you know, when I used to cook some sort of chicken often chicken breasts or thighs i was always like marinating it somehow and then and then cooking it on the stovetop you know um and lately what i've just been doing is like oh all i have to do is just like melt some butter brush it onto these chicken thighs or chicken drumsticks whatever and then put that in the oven like that's all you have to do it's just so good it just rounds

up so perfectly i learned that from my friend kevin arnovitz uh who once cooked a chicken breast just it was like he just was going through the fridge getting rid of things that were you know soon to go bad yeah and just whipped up this this chicken breast that was just butter and some kind of salt and pepper on it or whatever and i was like this is the best chicken i've ever consumed in my life this is like an old just an old jewish chicken recipe man it's like not anything special i have texted him not once andrew but twice asking him to remind me the recipe for this chicken breast over the years and my meat eating days because I remember it so fondly and will want to make it and he will each time tell me it's pretty much butter and salt and pepper

yeah yeah and I have a little bit of a like I made some chicken rub a while back I made a whole bunch of it so I keep it in a seasoning jar and so I'll sprinkle that on there a little bit too just to give it a little bit of zazz you know what I did because I did something exactly like what your friend did I think on Saturday night I was like, I just need to clear out the fridge a little bit. And so we had a couple of drumsticks in there and a breast. And then I've been baking a lot of carrots lately. I feel like we've had a lot of leftover carrots. And that's not something I was doing a lot pre-pandemic. But it's just so easy to do. And I do love a baked carrot or a roasted carrot. But so I nailed the drumsticks with my usual chicken seasoning. But Genevieve had just purchased some everything bagel seasoning. Dude, that is changing the game. Yes. So she was in love with these everything bagels from Trader Joe's. She lived and died by them, and nobody else's everything bagels compared, as far as, like, the pre-bought, you know, grocery store was. And then they changed their deal recently. They changed their recipe a little bit. So she asked me to get an extra little jar to zazz them up, and then I was kind of eyeing it while I was preparing the chicken. So I put that on a chicken breast with some butter and put it in the oven. Very good, my friend. And also, a little bit of that hit the carrots, and it really zazzed up the carrots.

I need to get some of that because there's nothing I love more than consuming too much sodium. Yeah. And I try not to eat, like, I try not to let, like, have bagels be, A, because I say them weird. And B, because they're just so dense from a carbohydrate standpoint. I'm sorry, is it carbohydrate? Carbohydrant? Like, I try to not have a bagel be like a really regular part of how I eat breakfast or lunch or whatever. Because, again, it's just like you're eating a loaf of bread. Now, if somebody wants to eat a loaf of bread, go nuts. I'll probably eat an entire large pizza by myself tonight, Andrew. I am not one to judge. But I really like bagels, but I feel like if I just if that was my standard thing to eat, like, let's say, you know, 11 in the morning when I'm getting hungry or whatever, I would be really packing in the carbs. And so I try not to. But the idea that I could put that everything salt on other things, even something like carrots and have a hit of that flavor that I'm looking for, but on something very helpful like a carrot. Yeah, that's that's the perfect crime.

Now, I don't know if I would sprinkle it on a raw carrot. I mean, you can give it a shot, but certainly on the roasted carrot, it cooked in there nicely. Hey, speaking of butter, Jamie says, even as a kid, I knew it was decadent, but we put butter on hot brownies. So it melted and it made butter toast for breakfast with pound cake. Totally recommend. Asterix. These suggestions come with no health warranties expressed or implied.

Yeah, that's now. Why is it, Andrew, that a brownie, which is itself just a pile of butter and chocolate and is very delicious? And I, you know, definitely will eat a brownie if presented with one. Why is it that putting butter on a brownie sounds crazy to me when really the brownie is just butter anyway? Like there's nothing. There's not a lot. It's like someone saying, you know, I like to put on my pizza a little more cheese. And I'm like, hold on. Right. Right. Let's not get carried away. Like somehow I'm scandalized by the idea of putting butter on a brownie, even though the brownie itself is just butter. like go nuts have fun well let's go with that cheese example though because you're putting more

like the implication with the pizza is you're adding more cheese before you bake it in this case you're adding the the ingredient afterwards so it'd be like taking a piece of pizza that's already hot fresh out of the oven or out of the box and then laying a slice of cheese on top of it maybe maybe that's a better comparison i'm assuming the butter melts though right because the brownies are oh that's true she says specifically yeah so it melted and uh and made buttered toast for breakfast with pound cake I think I uh did you do a lot of cinnamon uh like cinnamon toast when you were a kid let me yes we did I loved it wow yes and it's sometimes cinnamon raisin toast and those raisins would get hot in there like that and it would kind of I think some of the kinds we got would kind of split apart along the spiral of the cinnamon a little bit I am thinking of cinnamon like bread not a roll but certain my parents got a certain kind so that I sort of remember sitting at the kitchen table, and you could sort of peel the bread. It was like a slice of bread, but you could see where the lines of cinnamon were sometimes.

Right. The way we did it was it was just a regular piece of wheat bread, but you toast it. You put a crap load of butter on it. Then you just douse it in sugar and cinnamon, and that's cinnamon toast. Oh, you made it yourself. I see. And that was like – because we never had any good treats. So it was all about like what are the treats that you can just kind of make on the fly. And, man, I used to eat so much cinnamon toast as a kid, and it's been years. I wonder why I don't treat myself to that. That was a big part of my childhood.

I've never – yeah, I've definitely never had it like that before. Also interesting that you were doing it on wheat bread. I guess wheat does have a little bit of a sweet taste to it more than white bread.

My mom just never bought white bread. All we had was wheat bread. Even now if I buy white bread in the store, I feel guilty. Like I've been really getting into making grilled cheese sandwiches and I like – because I learned how to make them from sort of our friend and colleague, Francis Lamb, from The Splendid Table. So I have a couple tricks that he taught me. One is I put onions in there, which is delicious. You've got to dice them up really fine, but that's a very yummy addition. And then also I use mayo as the – instead of butter because mayo has like a lower smoke point. Oh yeah I remember you talking about that But for whatever reason The last couple of weeks I've been really getting into Grilled cheese sandwiches again I'll like watch Chris Hayes' show And I will grill two grilled cheese sandwiches And heat up some tomato soup And sit there like I'm a 12 year old who's Homesick from school Clearly I'm doing some Self soothing but anyway I didn't want to do it with wheat bread for some reason I kind of wanted it to be something different And so I bought some like white bread at Whole Foods and I was like, I don't know the last time I bought white bread. It just feels so like I don't know why that's something that in my mind is ranked as like a very unhealthy thing to do. But it is for some reason. Yeah. Growing up, we had white bread, but we never had like the mass. produced white bread my family was like weirdly snobby about certain food items and so we always got bakery bread like you know the kind of stuff and it didn't have as long of a shelf life so if the bread started to go stale or you know god forbid if the heels the heel of the bread would start to go a little moldy if it was in there for a while we'd take them out and give them to the ducks we had ducks on our property and so i remember like breaking up the hard bread and

and giving it to ducks i think a lot of the cooking that my mom did and even still does Is based on how excited she is To find a use For food that has passed It's gone past its prime So we used to eat so much banana bread As a kid why because once Bananas turn black you can just put them in the freezer And then you can still use them for banana bread We used to My mom Loves making stuffing to this day She She is the one who is allowed to make the stuffing When we have these family Thanksgiving get togethers And I literally think she looks forward to the stuffing all year round because she can use stale bread in there.

Stuffing is good, though, man. Oh, you're you're not a huge stuffing person, are you? Is that wasted calories to you? The best.

Oh, no, no. I mean, Thanksgiving is is is a free for all for me. But no, the you know, the best stuffing I ever had was this like sausage stuffing. My sister Liz learned how to make when she was in grad school in Connecticut. and it's just I mean it's so delicious but it has like 11 different kinds of meat in it and it's just basically a delicious sausage I didn't miss that sausage fest um but that's kind of off my list but like that's like the best stuffing I've ever regular stuffing is okay but it's just kind

of wet bread to me I do I do enjoy it I mean I've had good and I've had bad um but uh yeah

had you ordered stuffing this Thanksgiving was that part of your meal didn't arrive of course

So I have not had stuffing in a couple of Thanksgivings here.

I'm sorry for bringing up a painful memory.

Oh, no, that's fine. Here's what I would like to do, though. I'm thinking, okay, what do we go out with? We've been talking a lot of Butter Talk. Okay, we can play Butterfly. Or we could play... By Crazy Town? Barterfly. The member, our listener, remixed Butterfly with Do the Bart Man. And so we have Barterfly, which I like to pull out a couple of times a year if possible. Finally, a song we have the rights to play. Yeah, well, sort of, yes. Ish. I mean, ask De La Sola if we have the right to sample this.

All right. Well, listen, thank you so much. It's another top story we never got to. Thank you, everyone, for listening, even though many days we don't get to the top story. We appreciate you. We'll be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio for you, so please do join us for that. Until then, have a great Tuesday. Stay safe. Take care of each other. Mask up. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

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