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#3381 Impossible Gabagool
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#3381 Impossible Gabagool

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

March 17, 2021 | 01:18:57 | Leisure, Comedy

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It's St. Patrick's day, which marks the anniversary of the day Andrew tried to fight a Minneapolis Uber driver and Luke almost lost his cool at a beloved Polish bar. They also commemorate the 1-year-and-1-day anniversary of the Family Ties movie. And Joe Biden "slaps back" at those criticizing his dog, who nipped a White House employee.
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Alright everybody, welcome to game night. Tonight we're going to be playing Risky Settlers, Knights and Allies of the Lords of Dominion of Earth, Pandemic Edition. Start with picking a color and taking three cards. Oh, don't look at them yet. Now we roll the dice. Link, you roll a two, that means you get to roll the mega die. You roll a fourteen, that means you get three jumbo resource cards. Ah, don't look at them yet! Now we all grab items from the game chest that correspond to our item cards. I've got a crystal card. Okay, everybody provide two forms of identification, one for you in real life and one for your character in the game. I've just got my license. Well, I guess we'll be playing with a rodent entrapment expansion pack then. Oh, you lose. Time to cut off your left pinky finger.

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TBTL!

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Some people call it catfishing. Some call it to catch a predator-ing. in jesus's day it was called pulling a judas you know for me to say i wasn't a genius i would just be lying to you and to myself you're not even a real journalism that's right you seem like a real

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real down-to-earth dude implicitly you could absolutely implicitly trust me i'm gonna bring 110 to the table on a daily basis so one thing i would do is like this okay that's great god

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that was impressive. Thank you. Did you plan that out? Yeah, yeah, it's all scripted.

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All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Wednesday edition of TBTL. Oh, yeah. The show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host. Let me tell you something, dude. Thank you. But I've recorded in Denmark. Coming to you From the Nest Broadcast Center High in the sky above Portland, Oregon Happy St. Patrick's Day, everyone

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Who else is in the level car? Say yeah! Yeah!

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I am only realizing in this moment Not only am I not wearing green Which was a big deal in my household growing up As the son of Susan Marion Kelly uh really the main holiday that was enforced in our family we didn't really do christmas when i was a little kid we definitely didn't do halloween uh but man st patrick's day like you were not getting out of the house without green on when i was a kid and my my uh beloved mother would uh she would plot right now if she saw me i am wearing like day glow orange running shorts from Nike.com. Like, if I were, like, lost in the wilderness, if I went for a jog and got turned around, they could, using a satellite, they could see me because of these shorts. They're the brightest color of orange ever. And then, in maybe the most clash move I could ever pull, I'm wearing a red T-shirt that says Legalize LA, which I've had for probably longer than TBTL has existed. And I will tell you, it does not fit great anymore. That is the getup, my traditional St. Patrick's Day look of the red shirt and the very orange running shorts anyway. Now you have that picture in your mind. Sorry, you can't un-imagine that. Hopefully, you'll forget about it by the time this episode is over. This episode being episode 3,381 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. Joe Biden is clapping back at the haters who say that his dog Major is too dangerous to live at the White House.

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I'll say, I'll say, what's up, dog?

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That's not really what's happening. But I just wanted to say clap back and haters. I know those are just words that I'm sure some kind of search engine optimization, you know, of kind of what the young, cool podcasts are saying. Maybe people search for those terms. And I want them to find TBTL. So we're going to say that Joe Biden is clapping back at the haters. Oh, man. You know what? Liberty Orchards Company. This is the company in Kashmir, Washington, that makes applets and cotlets, that kind of gelatinous candy snack with bits of walnut and applets in it or whatever that is.

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Holy shit snacks.

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They've announced that they are going to be going out of business after 101 years. And it's weird because that was not the candy that I was hoping to get as a kid when I would get it from my grandmother. But I feel very sad that this company is going out of business because they're kind of a Washington state institution. So we'll get into that. And also, it's a Wednesday, meaning we'll do this day in TBTL history. The past is history.

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The future is a mystery.

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we will revisit

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happening on this day some number of years ago on the program uh plus emails and v-mails and this guy the longest running co-bro of the show known for his drawings of tall ships he woke up this morning and he got some gabagool um he'd like to just kind of put things in context like how how doing this show co-broing this program is really the highlight of his day i love the process

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of doing it i love the smell of it he is andrew walsh he's joining me right now from the roosevelt neighborhood of seattle washington good morning my friend good morning what was i got out of the shower you said something about cobros i believe a second ago or i inserted it in my head um and what is that song from jackie brown i can't think of the name of the group that does it but didn't i blow your mind this time didn't i and i i was later covered by new kids on the block oh i always forget that you always tell me that and i always forget that i love the original which i'm not trying to say that I go back a ways with that song. The Delphonics. Delphonics, right. And that movie introduced me to it, but I love that song. But I woke up this morning singing, didn't I bro your mind this time? Didn't I? Which could be kind of our...

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And we've already got a show title.

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Man, that's a record. We might have a show pick, too, because there was something that I wanted to run by you really quickly at the top of the show here without hopefully steering us too far astray. But I'm glad you remembered that today is St. Patrick's Day because we kind of blew it on an anniversary yesterday yesterday was and of course most listeners know this um it was the anniversary uh from 1986 march 16th 1986 the hilarious two-hour movie family ties vacation debuted wow which is a movie that i had no idea existed until i got this tweet from retro news now last night and then I went to bed I found this two-hour movie on YouTube and I went to bed watching it it is the family ties vacation according to TV guide the Keetons are coming and London is coming undone it's a jolly good movie 7 p.m 6 10 20 25 NBC it was a I don't know like they were well into their show probably did like 100 episodes and decided it's time to take this show on the road and it's one of those weird uncanny valley shows where there's no laugh track and they're not in their studio they're like you know shot on location and it is just so not funny

00:07:29 - 00:08:01 | Speaker 2:

yet i'm really drawn to it i wonder if that was around the same time that the national lampoon vacation films were huge this was 1985 i can tell you that for sure so national lampoon's vacation is 1983 and then you know there was a bunch of them and so I wonder if somebody at the network was like you know it's hot right now families going on vacation and getting up to all kinds of shenanigans and so they're going to do their version of it

00:08:01 - 00:08:57 | Speaker 1:

I also feel like and I could be wrong I've never worked on a TV sitcom a lot of people don't know that but I haven't but this also has the feel to me of we've hit a level of success and we are creatively hitting a wall but we have a really big budget you know like this from producers on down and on up it's a weird way of putting that but I just sort of feel like in the radio world I sort of feel like we'd be cranking out a you know a morning talk show about the issues of the day for like three four five years then somebody would be like we got to take this on the road and i don't think that's usually done for the audience so much as the people making the show they just need something different maybe they just wanted to go to europe maybe they just wanted to go to europe they're like we made so much money we have like a real we have a real budget now let's spend some of this money we deserve it you know what

00:08:57 - 00:09:07 | Speaker 2:

would i what i think what was the name of the family in family ties um the keaton's somebody was like you know i think that the the keaton's it'd be interesting to see how the keaton's

00:09:07 - 00:09:17 | Speaker 1:

reacted to heady yeah right right well you know actually that's literally where jump the shark came from right uh happy days decided that they needed to take their show on the road and they

00:09:17 - 00:09:50 | Speaker 2:

went to hawaii now was that because right i do because fonzie jumps over a shark in his leather jacket on skis i wonder if that i wonder if that was what was going on for the uh for the happy days uh you know crew as well was like yeah we can whoever it is whoever the network was or production company they'll let us go to hawaii um but the reason of course jump the shark the idea is that they were just out of ideas as well right and so that was when that show officially became bad was when fonzie jumped the shark it's i mean that yeah that's where the expression comes from

00:09:50 - 00:10:32 | Speaker 1:

and definitely like i don't know what led the production team to decide that hawaii was the way to go but that's definitely my understanding i'm gonna play for you this is just like a minute in. We've seen the family. Audio quality here is really bad, by the way. This is a tough video on YouTube. Family Ties Vacation Part 1, if you're looking for it. We're about a minute in. We just saw, like, all of their passports, the Keaton family's passports, kind of a close-up. The bit there is they're all straightforward kind of headshots, but then at the end, Mallory's is kind of like a Vogue beauty shot, right? And now they're boarding a plane, which, I mean, you think airplane shots.

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Did Boner get on the plane? No.

00:10:33 - 00:10:47 | Speaker 1:

Did Boner stow away? No. Nope, neither did. R.I.P., by the way. Also, though, I liked, oh, why am I blanking on his name? Mallory's on-again, off-again beau, who was the artist who made things out of trash.

00:10:48 - 00:10:53 | Speaker 2:

I actually, to be honest with you, don't know that much about Family Ties verse.

00:10:53 - 00:11:28 | Speaker 1:

Oh, oh, he was great. Nick, Nick was his name. He was another leather jacket-wearing guy. But I'll tell you this about airplanes in the 80s, especially on TV. Roomie, my friend. Flying palaces. I mean, I don't understand how this thing got off the ground. This is like a full studio. This, like, makes the airplane that we took over to Australia seem like a two-engine little plane. But they're just boarding the plane right now, and this is pretty funny because Mallory realizes that they can't take this vacation after all.

00:11:29 - 00:11:46 | Speaker 3:

Here we go. All right, you want to take the window? Go ahead. Oh, my God, wait, we can't go to London. The plane can't take off. Why, what's the matter? I forgot to pack my blue dress. Well, we can't go. We can't go. Mom, you tell the pilot I'll break it to the other class.

00:11:46 - 00:11:55 | Speaker 2:

What do you think of that for... Oh, man, that's good. Alex P. Keaton is, you know, He's wise beyond his years and wisecracking.

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I was surprised. You know, I'm looking at him here last night. I dialed this up on my phone. I'm like, instead of reading tonight, I will just watch this until I fall asleep.

00:12:04 - 00:12:05 | Speaker 2:

On your phone. That's an interesting move.

00:12:05 - 00:12:38 | Speaker 1:

Which it actually was better. I dialed it up on my computer just now to play it for you, and I didn't realize how terrible the quality was when you look at it on a computer. But, you know, this is 85. This is exactly the year that Back to the Future came out. And I kind of didn't realize that those things, that Family Ties and Back to the Future happened, that they overlapped so much. Family Ties ran until 1989, and the first Back to the Future came out in 1985. And that really took him from being a TV star to a huge movie star, right? Like one of the biggest household names.

00:12:38 - 00:13:18 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, they must have had to throw so much money at Michael J. Fox from, you know, the moment the Back to the Future came out until he departed from Family Ties. And I don't even I mean, are our sitcoms a thing? Anyone like is anybody from Bob Hart's Abishola also in the number one movie in the world? What is Bob Hart's Abishola? It is a television show sitcom, I believe, from the Chuck Lorre universe about a seemingly odd couple. I believe it's maybe the guy from Mike and Molly and then an actress who I'm unfamiliar with outside of her playing Abishola on the show.

00:13:18 - 00:13:26 | Speaker 1:

Oh, I see. Bob, I was like, I thought, yes, now that I look at it in print and in poster, I have seen this around.

00:13:26 - 00:13:28 | Speaker 2:

You have seen it advertised during football games.

00:13:28 - 00:13:37 | Speaker 1:

I thought it was something named Bob Hart, like Bob Hart presents Abishola or Bob Hart's Abishola. But no, the heart is in place of the word love.

00:13:37 - 00:14:05 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, because he loves her and they are they're dating. And, you know, of course, things start off a little awkward, but then eventually they realize they heart each other. But like, you know, I mean, the idea that Michael J. Fox was just on a sitcom and then was also like, you know, who's like the biggest movies? Would you consider Corbin Bernson to be an A-list celebrity, Andrew? I'm really good at this. I'm good at this. Who's like the biggest movie star in the world right now?

00:14:06 - 00:14:09 | Speaker 1:

I'm trying to remember who Corbin Bernson is, honestly.

00:14:10 - 00:14:45 | Speaker 2:

He was on L.A. Law, and he was in the movie Major League. Oh, I recognize. That was just like a – I don't know why I decided it would be funnier if I didn't use Dennis Quaid's name. But for some reason, I thought, let me make this joke more weird by throwing a Corbin Bernson reference in. But anyway, like just the idea that that Michael J. Fox was doing both of those things like was like a massive movie star and was still showing up on a, you know, a set somewhere in Burbank, California to say, Mallory, yeah, terrible Michael J. Fox. But, you know, you get the idea. I was with you.

00:14:45 - 00:14:59 | Speaker 1:

I was along with you for that. yeah i can't i'm i'm really bad at this kind of thing because i mean i don't even obviously know what's going on in pop culture right now which is why they gave me a podcast um but uh yeah that is an interesting question i'm trying to think of other examples like would john

00:15:00 - 00:15:25 | Speaker 2:

John Ritter was never really a huge movie star, although he was in some movies later on in life. I don't know why. Slangblade. Three's company right away. That's an interesting question, though, that I'm not doing well on the fly with. But, yeah, like a huge movie star who sticks with their project. Roseanne? No. Maybe. I mean, was there a time that Roseanne might have sort of fit that bill? She was in She-Devil. But She-Devil was no Back to the Future Walsh. Come on.

00:15:25 - 00:15:29 | Speaker 3:

That's the thing. Yeah, Andrew, come on. You've embarrassed yourself again in front of the listeners.

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So I've embarrassed the network.

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What was the song that you said you woke up with in your head? Didn't I bro your mind this time? Well, you know the song that I woke up with my head because it's always running through my head, Andrew?

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Woke up this morning, got some gabagoo. Then I woke up the next day and got some gabagoo. Keep waking up, keep getting different types of gabagoo.

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By the way, somebody has mixed this so it runs a continuous hour on YouTube.

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Who's the original sound on this? Do you know?

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Let me go back because I'm now on the page that's the hour-long mix. It's somebody called, I think, Video Game Dunkey Oh, right, okay, good Video Game Dunkey is the name of the person, I believe, who made up this soprano song that's just about Gabagool

00:16:40 - 00:17:14 | Speaker 2:

I love that That reminds me, because I don't know what the mindset was of the person who made that when they first made it You just played that for me today before the show for the first time I heard it It's big on TikTok, I understand But like that that laziness of a parody reminds me of like it seems like just a little lovingly mocking in the way that Genevieve and I would sing important show, important show over the credits of the West Wing because it's such an important show. And it seems to be like and this seems to be in that vein. So I'll take credit for it.

00:17:14 - 00:17:57 | Speaker 3:

Also, the Sopranos, I feel like this a whole new generation of people is kind of like experiencing the Sopranos and they're very meme-ified on TikTok. Yeah. Also gabagool is a whole thing right now. Like it's sometimes it's code for, you know, drugs like there will be there's a whole tick tock meme of people going like, where's the gabagool? Like when I walk into a party, this will be on text on the screen. When I walk into a party and I'm looking around and the person will say, oh, where's the gabagool? and they'll be kind of like wiping under their nose as a little sly reference maybe to an illegal drug. Or gabagool is kind of, can be anything that you want it to be just as a silly thing.

00:17:57 - 00:17:58 | Speaker 2:

What is it really though?

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Is it a lunch meat? I don't think I even know. I think it's, I mean, it's like an Italian dish, right?

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I don't know. How do you spell it? Gabagool. That's how you spell it. Okay, let's see. Scooby-Doo. Let's see here. Oh, you'll be surprised to hear it is Italian It's a traditional Italian and Corsican pork cold cut Saloom So it looks like it is related to salami But it's the kind that's like The only reason I kind of guessed on that Is because I do a thing called Tony Soprano-ing it And no, it's not being a boss of a bunch of gangstas It is standing in front of the refrigerator or peeling slices of cold cuts out of a bag and putting them directly in my mouth while the door is still open. That is what I call Tony soprano-ing things. And so that seems like something he might do with gabagool.

00:18:54 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 3:

Or prosciutto, which was another thing that I... Or mozzarella. Those were all things that I said differently before I started watching The Sopranos back in the day. I will tell you what, I know we've been on a real hot streak with food talk on this show. And by food talk, I just mean talking about food In a way that makes people probably kind of hungry Or at least it makes us hungry I don't They're like the Sopranos which was not Allegedly a show about food I mean maybe other than the like Artie Bucco Kind of plot line That show made me so hungry When I watched it because like Tony's always eating and it's always like Sausage and peppers and it's like they're always At the you know whatever The hangout is that little deli place And you know what I mean Where they have the little chairs outside is that the one you're thinking of Or they're in the strip club, but they're, like, in the offices of the strip club, but somebody's bringing in, you know, sandwiches. Like, they're just always eating and – or they're eating Johnny Cakes, you know, famously. So I was always hungry when I would watch The Sopranos. And, you know, as soon as they come up with Impossible Gabagoo, I'll be right –

00:20:00 - 00:20:02 | Speaker 2:

there, or Beyond Gabagool

00:20:02 - 00:20:14 | Speaker 1:

Beyond Gabagool I like that, I'll write that down Beyond Gabagool By the way, we're only three minutes into our one hour of this song, what's funnier?

00:20:15 - 00:20:20 | Speaker 2:

Impossible Gabagool or Beyond? I think impossible is, I think more people will get the joke, right?

00:20:21 - 00:20:50 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, because Beyond Gabagool sounds like we're just making something that's a higher level of Gabagool Right, I just trying to get you to say that as much as possible you're embarrassing the networks are you um are you relieved that there's no social pressure on you to go out and and tear it up this saint patrick's day because i know that you're a huge saint patrick's head every year just erin go bra we can't keep you out of the bars with the green beer and all of that i do love it do you remember

00:20:50 - 00:22:48 | Speaker 2:

actually today is the anniversary of me getting really aggressive towards that uber driver in uh, Minneapolis. Do you remember that? No, I don't, I have no memory of this. This is, as a matter of fact, I'm sort of pausing there because I'm wondering if this is the five year anniversary. I was going back for, uh, this day in TBTL history. I was going back and listening to various, um, shows on, on this day in various years. And one of them, and this is not the one we'll be playing, um, was a show when you and me and the stew bot were doing the show from St. Paul. and I think later on that night we decided we were going to go I think it might have even been the night we went to the Polish bar I think we went to the Polish bar on St. Patrick's Day because we wanted to go out and we first had like a drink Sky and Andy yes but beforehand you me and the stew bot just stopped into what we thought was just kind of a regular bar but it was early enough that we were sort of beating the St. Patrick's Day crowd but it started to fill up around us So we just had, like, one drink. Down on First Avenue. I think so. And then we left. And remember, I called the Uber, and the guy wouldn't show up. And he was, like, a couple blocks away. And I can't remember exactly what it was. But then he ends up canceling my ride. But I remembered the license plate. And then I saw – he was rude to me in some way. I believe he hung up on me and then canceled my ride for no reason. And then I saw his car. And I was – and I wasn't – I can't blame this on the alcohol. Like, I think I had, like, one drink or something. I'm just trying to say I was drunk. I had eight beers. And I walked right up to his window, and I was yelling at him through his window. It wasn't even the canceling the ride. It was just like the really rude, brust, hanging up, canceling the ride when he didn't do his job. And I was just like, I was furious. You felt disrespected. I felt very disrespected. Yeah.

00:22:48 - 00:22:58 | Speaker 1:

Well, remember the time that I almost fought a guy because he stole your cab in Pike Place Market? Right, exactly. You and I are not allowed to do any kind of ride share. No. And a cab type situation.

00:22:58 - 00:23:27 | Speaker 2:

Am I doing that thing where I combine all of my memories of like Minneapolis, St. Paul into one big composite? Because I feel like the day that I got really aggro at that Uber driver is also the day where we. Oh, yeah, because that was at Nice Polonaise where Stubat's friend came in and started eating french fries off of my plate. And you got like really defensive about him coming in. And so, yeah, I could tell that you were either going to headbutt him or you had to go leave. So you left the restaurant for a while.

00:23:28 - 00:23:48 | Speaker 1:

I did. I went over to the bar side of the restaurant where the world's most dangerous polka band famously played. And I understand. We've got listeners in the Twin Cities obvs, and so maybe they know more about this than I do. But I'm under the impression that Knye's has reopened, but it's not in that original place.

00:23:48 - 00:24:13 | Speaker 2:

It might be in the same space, but they tore that down, I think, and rebuilt it, you know, just like we were talking about yesterday. I think it's now five over one. I believe it's probably I believe it's a mixed used space now with some apartments on top. And then in the bottom, I think a different I think like a young guy was reopening something that he was calling nice polonaise kind of in honor of it. But I don't think it has any real DNA tissue to the people.

00:24:13 - 00:24:40 | Speaker 1:

I wonder why, like, that stuff matters to me so much because I bet you if you're sitting, you know, when it's legal and safe, if you're sitting in the new version of Nye's, I bet you anything, you're having a nice drink, you're talking to a friend, it's probably a very pleasant experience. Why does it matter to me so much that it's not like the carpet isn't, you know, dingy and there isn't wood paneling on the walls? I have so much tied up in atmosphere with those kinds of things.

00:24:40 - 00:24:59 | Speaker 2:

community though I mean I think there's a lot I mean you're who you talking to here and I'm trying to like I don't I don't want to go into one of my just stupid like one of your patented St. Patrick's Day ran like things can't ever change and I know that I and listen we do need housing in in certainly in the city I live in now I don't know what the situation is in Minneapolis I don't want

00:25:00 - 00:26:01 | Speaker 1:

to be somebody saying oh they're building more housing and that's bad because i liked the bar that was there that's not a good look i've done that before on this show but it is a complicated thing because with these really older kind of institutions it's not just you know what we love about it is not just going in and enjoying the the physical atmosphere but the community that's built in there it harkens to a different time of you know older you know people who kind of grew up in that atmosphere or became kind of adults into older adults and you you're walking in kind of into their club a little bit and they all know each other and um there's just there's something about the community aspect that is gone too and again i'm sure the place that there is a nice fine place and they probably serve some sort of like 17 dollar kielbasa that is well um but anyway you know i shouldn't hate on those things but they'll never have my heart the way you go into some place that you know is a family-run business that was started in 1941 or whatever right i am going to officially be on the record as saying they paved

00:26:01 - 00:26:14 | Speaker 2:

paradise and put up a parking lot. They put up a Nise. They put up a Polonaise. Also, that name is so interesting. The Nise Polonaise, right? Isn't that the name of the... Yeah, exactly. Is that a Polish word? Yeah, I think

00:26:14 - 00:26:30 | Speaker 1:

we've done this on the show before. I think the stew bought it. We should just... Maybe I should just pull this for this day in. Because, yeah, you and I thought it was a tiki drink place, right? We were, like, confused about it, but Polonaise was some... Some Polish work.

00:26:30 - 00:26:38 | Speaker 2:

Well, maybe next year, you and I, we can get the band back together. We can go out and we can raise some real heck on St. Patrick's Day like we like to do.

00:26:38 - 00:26:40 | Speaker 1:

Oh, it's a dance of Polish origin.

00:26:40 - 00:26:41 | Speaker 2:

Oh, nice.

00:26:41 - 00:26:47 | Speaker 1:

Sorry, I petered out there. I was trying to talk, which I'm not even great at that anyway. And then I was typing and everything fell apart.

00:26:47 - 00:26:59 | Speaker 2:

Let's do this. Let's take a break. Let's compose ourselves. And then we come back. We're going to listen to a different time we weren't good at talking. To this day in TBTL history. Coming up in a moment. here on TVTL.

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Hey, let's thank some dazzling donors who are dazzling us with the dough that they're donating each month. It's a big part of the bottom line of this program, and we appreciate it. Mystifies our supervisors, but somehow keeps happening. Keeps letting us come on the show, or on the air, I should say, five days a week, all year long so thanks to elizabeth tuchel you know i'll mention one thing too andrew with these dazzling donors we've we've got the pronunciation of folks names we also have the gender pronoun they prefer boy this is i'm farting through silk here my friend jenny cox would say i'm actually you know what that's more of a brianne thing those are friends of carrie's but brianne's mom used to say oh yeah you're really farting through silk

00:27:59 - 00:28:37 | Speaker 1:

I'm trying to make that happen for all the donors so that we can get pronouncers. It's something I've struggled with because, you know, I think it's better when we get people's names correct, but also it's become almost a bit on the show where we spend, you know, 10 minutes thanking somebody because we're trying to figure out how to say their name or we say it every possible way. But, yeah, I'm trying to see if we can get this for everybody because it is, like you say, it's much smoother. Although, I wonder, that expression, farting through silk, that sort of sounds like it's, you're kind of doing something almost like pearls before swine a little bit. Like you're doing something classless, but you're trying to, or lipstick on a pig. What does that actually mean?

00:28:37 - 00:29:01 | Speaker 2:

I take it to be, when you're farting through silk, I take it to be that you're so fancy that you're wearing silk undies or something. Oh, okay. Like even your farts are fancy because they're going through silk. That makes more sense. Being able to know that Elizabeth's last name is pronounced Tuchel and that Elizabeth uses the pronouns she, her, I love that because I would have totally guessed wrong on how to say Elizabeth's last name.

00:29:01 - 00:29:03 | Speaker 1:

I wonder how many times we have said it wrong, in fact.

00:29:04 - 00:30:16 | Speaker 2:

Probably hundreds. This is also really incentivizing people. If you're in the financial position next TV Telfon to move up to the dazzling donor level, better chance we'll get your name and pronoun right. So there's that. Anyway, Elizabeth Tuchel from Seattle, Washington, is dazzling us with her donation, and she says, during the year of uncertainty and upheaval, it's been a true comfort to know one thing stays the same, my beloved podcart. Listening to Luke and Andrew's non-sexual jibber-jabber. Usually. Oh, man. Makes me want to go watch The Last Man on Earth. Non-sexual jibber-jabber is the high point of an otherwise lackluster day. hold up working remotely impatiently waiting my turn for a vaccine hang in with my imaginary friendos makes pandemic times a lot less lonely thank you so much for doing this awesome show well elizabeth thank you for uh for donating and for making this a thing that can happen um we We say it all the time, but we say it because it's very, very true. We would not be able to do this without the listeners and without folks like Elizabeth. So, Elizabeth, we appreciate you. We will try to keep the jibber-jabber non-sexual, which is to Andrew's liking. I can tell you that much. We'll try. And Maestro?

00:30:17 - 00:30:21 | Speaker 1:

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready.

00:30:21 - 00:30:55 | Speaker 2:

I would have also accepted the Gabagool song there. We also want to thank John Kepler of Palo Alto. California John says I have several stories about why I am thankful for this show but one easily stands out above the rest when I was an undergrad student at the UW hmm go you mighty huskies bow down I don't like that bow down by the way you know what when I was in the airport in like Oklahoma I saw somebody in a mask that was a boundless W

00:30:55 - 00:31:04 | Speaker 1:

mask yeah right they're all over in this neighborhood, yeah. It's off to the side, and it's a little bit off-putting because it's not symmetrical, right? Well, it's boundless, Andrew. It has to be touching the edge.

00:31:04 - 00:31:21 | Speaker 2:

You know who knows that? John Kepler, fellow University of Washington grad. Mm-hmm. John said he was an undergrad student at the UW and accompanied a young woman I was interested in to an Arrested Development Trivia Night at Neptune Coffee. Oh, my goodness. I was there. That was a bit ago, John.

00:31:21 - 00:31:43 | Speaker 1:

I was there, not as your co-bro, but Veeves and I just went as, like Veeves was listening to the show constantly then I was a little over it I was kind of sticking with I didn't want to see what they were doing over on Bryant Park but no I Genevieve was really just like get it really getting into TBTL and we went to that we went to this trivia night it's a very fond memory of mine as well

00:31:43 - 00:31:59 | Speaker 2:

that was a fun night so much craziness that night I think I ended up eventually at the Mandarin gate possibly squaring off with someone but i could be confusing my altercations we had a different altercation

00:31:59 - 00:32:23 | Speaker 1:

remember we you our crew and your crew and a few listeners but then some people who weren't listeners all went to a dinner afterwards but then some people that we didn't even know were ordering things and then just kind of left and then i don't remember you don't remember that yeah it was really awkward because then the the server wanted us to pay for these people were Like, oh, no, those people. Oh, my gosh. I had totally spaced that out.

00:32:23 - 00:33:06 | Speaker 2:

I do remember that in. Thankfully, I don't think anyone was hurt. But Neptune Coffee is one of the few places we've done an event that has literally exploded. Yeah. Yeah. Like from a movie, like just into nothingness because of a gas leak. So anyway, Neptune Coffee. Yeah. But anyway, back to John's dazzling donor message involving trivia night at Neptune Coffee. I had been interested in her for a while. And even though we were friends, each time I asked her to go out on a date, she said no, since she viewed me as too serious of a person. I get that a lot, John. So many people that I cast my romantic eye towards are like, you're a little bit too serious and intellectual is the feedback that I've been getting.

00:33:06 - 00:33:08 | Speaker 1:

And too handsome. I hear that a lot, too. I don't know about you.

00:33:09 - 00:33:22 | Speaker 2:

Impossibly handsome, like intimidatingly handsome is, you know, because I do a survey after I go on dates. And if they don't answer the survey, I call them relentlessly until they finally say, please take me off your list, sir.

00:33:22 - 00:33:28 | Speaker 1:

I just have a series of five buttons, and they can press which one associates with how clean I was.

00:33:29 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 2:

Yes. I was able to talk her into going to the trivia night with some friends. It turned out that this would become an opportunity for me not only to showcase my knowledge of arrested development, but also to prove that I could loosen up a bit and not take myself too seriously. In the middle of your trivia night, there was an impromptu chicken dance. I'm guessing that would have been Chi-Cha, Chi-Cha. Has anybody in this family seen a chicken? I ended up volunteering to be a part of, after giving my best impressions of the Bluth family's different chicken dances. By vote of applause, I was awarded a copy of Dr. Funke's The Man Inside Me. Wow, I gave that away? I remember that. Damn. You should be donating the show, John. Can I get that back? JK. That's really funny. That was one of my most prized possessions. I was really breaking out the – I mean, I would have – believe me, it would not have made the 11 subsequent moves with me. Because you're a chicken. You're a chicken. Cuckoo-ca-cha. Cuckoo-ca-cha. What are you doing? My plan, women. Cuckoo-ca-cha. That's what I was just telling you. Cuckoo-ca-cha. Has anyone in this family ever even seen a chicken? There you go. I think somebody when I was in L.A., somebody who I can't remember how that book came into my life, but somebody was working on Arrested Development and basically snagged a prop, which was this.

00:35:00 - 00:35:13 | Speaker 3:

book, The Man Inside Me, I think, that Tobias Fudke writes, and they had they didn't really write a book of course, it was just a fake cover that was put on these books, I think the scene was he's doing a book signing

00:35:13 - 00:35:17 | Speaker 2:

or something. I can't remember if it was a different book inside the book jacket. It was, it was a

00:35:17 - 00:36:20 | Speaker 3:

South Beach Diet book. Which I'm sure John can confirm. I read it, decent, got some tips. That's my memory is that it was a South Beach Diet, was the actual book inside of this cover, but the cover was just interesting because it was you know part of the tv show and they had all this nonsense words written on the inside of the kind of book cover so that if you were handling it and from afar it would look like a real book but of course it wasn't anyway john won the copy of the man inside me uh and john continues our team also won the trivia contest itself and the night was overall a lot of fun i also view that evening as the turning point of when she started reciprocating my interest in her as she realized I didn't really care if a bunch of strangers saw me doing a series of embarrassing chicken dances on top of a coffee shop bar top. We've been together over ten years now and have been married for eight of those years. Thank you for providing me with the opportunity to win over the love of my life. Aw. That's awesome. John, congratulations. I love that so damn much. Another reason to upgrade to the dazzling donor level, you may meet the love of your life.

00:36:21 - 00:36:35 | Speaker 2:

I assume that John and his future fiancé were not the people who skipped out on the bill, though. I mean, he's a dazzling donor. It doesn't seem like the behavior of a dazzling donor. I can't imagine a person who dazzlingly donates

00:36:35 - 00:36:37 | Speaker 3:

would also be a dine-and-dasher.

00:36:37 - 00:36:43 | Speaker 2:

I don't think that could be another thing. Can we thank the dining and dashers?

00:36:44 - 00:37:10 | Speaker 3:

How sad is it that, like, I've had so many confrontations in my life that they just blend together slash I forget them. I mean, they also Also often happened on nights when I was consuming copious amounts of alcohol. Not exactly known as the greatest memory builder out there. Hey, it's a Wednesday, which of course means it's time for... This day in TBTL history. Yeah, baby.

00:37:11 - 00:37:14 | Speaker 2:

That's right. Are you getting Shawnee some residuals for that?

00:37:15 - 00:37:21 | Speaker 3:

Uh-huh. Yep, we are. He's going to get a check for seven cents. Like I do every Wednesday. Occasionally.

00:37:21 - 00:37:24 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. What do you get in your seven-cent checks for?

00:37:24 - 00:37:52 | Speaker 3:

Oh, you know, like usage of a voiceover for like some online company thing or whatever. Like if you do a union gig, like if it's SAG or AFTRA, you will sometimes get some kind of usage thing. But it's often like very, very minuscule. I've never had the experience of getting like a – I've never gotten Tony Hawk'd where my agent sends me a check for $11 million as they decided to reuse the car toys ad. That you were in.

00:37:52 - 00:39:26 | Speaker 2:

So this day in TBTL history, I was mentioning earlier that it was, I think, five years ago that you, me, and the stew bot were romping around the Twin Cities and getting in trouble. But six years ago, on March 17th, 2015, Luke, I'm pretty sure, and this was just kind of an average show for us. You and I are relatively new at 8 p.m. here, right? Because we started, I think, on March 1st at 8 p.m. And this is March 17th. But, you know, I'm back in my Koreatown neighborhood studio. You're in Port Townsend. And I think, Luke, now I could be wrong on this, and maybe I'll clarify after the tape, but I believe I stumbled on the original hot dog story. And, of course, when we use hot dog story on the show, it's just kind of a nickname for any story that is long and has a lot of tedious detail but goes nowhere, right? And I'm pretty sure that our buddy Drew McFrizz came up with that term while talking about it. And I thought for the longest time, I thought that this was the original hot dog story. There's some debate over that now. But I was just like clicking around, listening to various things. And I stumbled. I'm like, this is it. And it's exactly like two minutes long. So take a listen to this. I'm in Koreatown. And this is a story about. I think I know the story. It was about me going to the gym. To Wienerschnitzel, right? No, no. see okay let me play this tape and then i think this sets up the wiener schnitzel story that

00:39:26 - 00:39:34 | Speaker 1:

might have been the real hot dog story anyway i'm starting to feel like a corn dog at a hot dog party and it ain't flattering i'll tell you that let's take a listen

00:39:34 - 00:41:18 | Speaker 2:

i was walking to the gym pretty hungry thinking i don't usually don't work out on a totally empty stomach and i was getting really hungry but i was like i should do this now and then on my way to the gym i passed this woman who you're gonna say you passed out no no no no i this woman who um often uh parks her little cart Of big, thick, bacon-wrapped hot dogs and onions and peppers on the corner of Western and Wilshire. And as I was at the gym, I was getting so hungry at the gym. So I passed her on my way into the gym. And then I was so hungry at the gym that while I was on the treadmill, I'm not even shitting you, I was fantasizing about the French dip that you didn't eat on Sunday. I swear to God, it's the first time in my life I've ever fantasized about food that, number one, wasn't mine to begin with. Like fantasizing about somebody else's takeout. And this is takeout that, like, I was never even in the same state as. But you had mentioned it. And I'm on the treadmill thinking, like, God, I'd kill for that half-eaten French dip right now. So there was no way that I was going to walk all the way home past that woman a second time without buying one of the hot dogs. And I was like, you know what? If there's a God, she will be gone by the time I get out of the gym. Lunch hour traffic would probably be decreasing at this point. Maybe she'll just take her wares elsewhere and I won't be tempted again. Well, it turns out there is no God. And I ate a giant hot dog while walking.

00:41:18 - 00:41:33 | Speaker 1:

interesting that this is finally the proof that so many skeptics of organized religion have looked for yeah there's been there's been debate since almost the dawn of time about if there's a god or not and it was actually proven on this uh saint patrick's day based on you and your hot dog

00:41:33 - 00:41:55 | Speaker 2:

consumption yeah well there you go it was there for the taking all along somebody just had to put it to the test yeah i did it for you don't miss the sausage fest it was so good man There you go, six years ago today. Wow. St. Patrick's Day. All I can say is wow. Also, apparently— I can eat a hot dog pretty quickly, but that's just out of gluttony and enjoyment.

00:41:55 - 00:42:29 | Speaker 1:

Apparently, I have been for years making jokes about or referencing your lack of a belief in God or the question of if there is or is not a God. I feel like I've been doing that a lot lately. I've fallen into this, I think, fun little joke. Whenever anything coincidental happens I like to say to you And you don't believe in a god Oh, that did come up recently I think Yeah, I feel like I say that now At the drop of a hat But back in those days I was also referenced It turns out very little has changed about the show You're still eating hot dogs And I'm still making the same four references

00:42:29 - 00:43:28 | Speaker 2:

Now, for the longest time When I heard that Drew McFrizz Had come up with this term hot dog story In this lovingly mocking way About the way I tend to go on and on About something without a point i always thought this was the tape in subsequent years i think somebody corrected me and said actually no that conversation about the bacon wrapped hot dog led to an entire show where we did or i did a taste testing of various hot dogs that i bought at the fast food chain wiener schnitzel as you mentioned i remember this and that show i believe was way too long without a lot of content in it other than me because i didn't eat the hot dogs on the show i had eaten them the night before and then i gave you a full review of each kind of hot dog and i think that there's a chance that that was the origin of hot dog story something that went on and on and on about hot dogs that didn't have a good payoff it was one of the two so there you go i see the story that you played

00:43:28 - 00:43:44 | Speaker 1:

from saint patrick's day however many years ago that was yeah i think that that actually is a decent story because i think people can identify with that you know you're like going into the gym and you're just hoping that the universe intervenes between you and what you know is your destiny

00:43:44 - 00:44:01 | Speaker 2:

and it didn't there she was the thing that sticks out to me the most about that and then we can move on and stop staring at our navels which my navel is like even bigger than it was six years ago when i was eating these hot dogs tell me about it i'm like i'm i'm i'm basically like a cased meat right

00:44:01 - 00:44:18 | Speaker 1:

now in this legalized LA t-shirt like I can't believe this thing is still even intact and I mean I'm gonna go for a jog after the show which is uh why I have this get up on I described earlier but yeah I just realized that this t-shirt is older than tbtl that it is yeah that's no longer

00:44:18 - 00:44:38 | Speaker 2:

flattering that t-shirt is the one you were wearing in some publicity shots for tbtl I think that's part of the logo for a long time but um I can't believe I ate the hot dog while walking That's a very rare move for me Usually even if I get takeout Then I'm going to take it home and eat it I like to sit, well it's funny I say I like to sit and eat I like to stand over my sink and eat But it's very rare for me

00:44:38 - 00:44:40 | Speaker 1:

To walk and

00:44:40 - 00:44:49 | Speaker 2:

Eat at the same time But I guess I was just really feeling kind of urban And just feeling that LA lifestyle That's the LA Hollywood lifestyle right? Eating a hot dog while you're walking

00:44:49 - 00:45:13 | Speaker 1:

Uh huh, definitely That's huge in Hollywood right now I'm going to be down there next week And I'll just check in on that and see if that's what everybody is still doing. Speaking of food. food andrew uh have you i know i've asked you this before but of course i've forgotten what your answer to have you ever actually eaten an applet or cotlet no and you're are you aware of this just from us talking about on the show this is not something that made its way out to the

00:45:13 - 00:45:40 | Speaker 2:

midwest right it's only something i know from the show i was a little confused when i got this link from our friend phyllis fletcher today because i didn't know what it was about then i saw the applets and cotlets and i was like oh yes we've talked about it you've explained them to me a bunch on the show i always think of them as something from like a um lion witch and wardrobe situation oh turkish delight right i confused the two well um this is the number one uh sort of

00:45:40 - 00:48:01 | Speaker 1:

clicked on story in the wenatchee world uh newspaper and and again uh credit to our colleague and friend phyllis fletcher for sending this over after 101 years in business the liberty orchards company makers of applets and cotlets uh has announced plans to close as of june 1st uh they say that it is uh not specifically because of the pandemic they'd actually been trying to sell the business but were not able to sell it so they are just going to close it um covid 19 did not help things but it was not directly the issue um it was just kind of uh i guess the the business climate had changed i mean my thought is i think all of i mean and i i don't like i said i wasn't a person who really liked eating applets and cotlets as a kid can you describe them for me yeah it's like a um imagine a kind of um like not jello but like a a clear kind of gelatinous square that is that that's sweet and then has like nuts and stuff in it and then is kind of rolled in like powdered sugar okay so when you would get a box of applets and cotlets and they were always from your grandmother you would open them and it would be a bunch of these little squares little rectangles of this kind of sweet candied kind of again there's got to be a more accurate term for what it is but i'm just going to say gelatinous okay i can picture it i think and then with little like little bits of fruit and nut in there and then it had powdered sugar on it okay and even though it was not really a a treat that i was super hyped on as a kid i love that it existed and i am sad that this thing has gone out of business i do think the issue has been all of the grandmothers have passed away in in america or at least in washington state and so with no more grandmothers left well basically what happens is now i could be conceivably a grandpa right my daughter is 27 Don't get any ideas, Addy But I could conceivably be a grandfather And I am, so this generation now Is probably not as into applets and cotlets And so we're not buying them for our grandkids And so I think it's probably put a dent in the business I wonder, I wonder what percentage of

00:48:01 - 00:48:04 | Speaker 2:

Is it apples and applets and cotlets?

00:48:04 - 00:48:15 | Speaker 1:

It's applets, which I didn't even know until today is spelled like the applet part is just a p l e t so it has only one p in it unlike the word apple

00:48:15 - 00:48:34 | Speaker 2:

okay and then so applets and cutlet so i wonder what percentage of the country's applets and cutlets liberty orchards makes you know i think they invented them oh really so this is proprietary so these are going away forever this isn't like a traditional dessert that um this is one company

00:48:34 - 00:49:04 | Speaker 1:

that makes them oh yeah um this is it the rule we will not have any more applets or cotlets wait unless really unless somebody steps in oh wait unless somebody what unless somebody steps in and like oh steps in oh sorry like either buys the company or or acquires the rights to it or something or just starts making them you know at their house and distributing them on the streets i'm saying we're about to lose applets and cotlets forever forever so okay here's the wait hold on i

00:49:04 - 00:49:35 | Speaker 2:

I want to double check this. I want to fact check this on the fly. I know you love fact checking. So according to Wikipedia, it's a locum type confection. I don't know what that means. Associated with the U.S. state of Washington. The candy is similar to Turkish delight. Yep. First developed 1918 by apple farmers. So it's definitely, you know, associated with the state. But it does say that invented by or created by Armin Tertsagian and Mark. Yep. But are these two people associated with this particular company?

00:49:35 - 00:49:44 | Speaker 1:

They are. They founded it. They founded Liberty Orchards in 1920 to Armenian immigrants, Mark Balaban and Armin Tersajian.

00:49:44 - 00:49:59 | Speaker 2:

So that's it. You were right. I didn't want to believe. Did you hear me? Like, just, I didn't want to believe it. I was looking for any information that told me you were wrong. I've never had one. I don't want one, but I want them to exist. Absolutely. It was fun to.

00:50:00 - 00:50:47 | Speaker 3:

I also really love that part of the state, Kashmir, Washington, like if you're driving over to Chelan. It's just really beautiful. There are these sort of rolling kind of golden hills out there. And you'd see the sign for the Applets and Kotlets place. And, yeah, I mean, again, not a food I was consuming a lot, but I was glad that it existed in the world. Also, and, again, I'm trying to be kind of careful because a bunch of people are presumably losing their jobs. And there are probably people who love Applets and Kotlets. So I don't want to, like, sound like I'm in any way being negative. But to me, the fact that that's what Turkish delight, let's just say it's probably pretty close to Turkish delight. If that's what the whole thing was in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, it's like, forget it. I would not let the White Witch do her thing to Mr. Tumnus over a G.D. Applet or Kotlet.

00:50:47 - 00:50:53 | Speaker 4:

Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. You know what I mean? Isn't that what Edmund really sucks in the oldie days, right?

00:50:53 - 00:51:46 | Speaker 3:

Yes, that's kind of the – because I remember being a kid and hearing about Turkish Delight from The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, and I forget the character. I said Edmund, but it might have been the other one. But whichever character kind of double-crosses his family initially or whatever he does because he wants more Turkish Delight from that super scary lady, which if you're making a cartoon for a very sheltered Luke Burbank to watch as a kid, please make the lady in the line the witch in the wardrobe less scary because it really did a number on my brain but anyway like the idea that i i didn't know what turkish delight was back in those days but what i knew was it was something that tasted so good that you would double cross everybody who meant anything to you for it right and then to find out that that's basically apples and cutlets i would just say not worth it and to your point yes candy kind of used to suck

00:51:46 - 00:52:11 | Speaker 4:

When you describe that scene and, like, in a betrayal like that, you're going to think I'm reaching here. But I almost feel like there's some, like, kind of Christian undertones to that story. You mean the Lion, the Witch, and the Witch? Yes, exactly. Yeah, but when did candy get good? I feel like we've had this conversation before. But when did, like, when was the candy revolution? Or is it a Bruce thing, too?

00:52:11 - 00:52:13 | Speaker 3:

Probably Hershey had something to do with it, don't you think?

00:52:13 - 00:52:14 | Speaker 4:

Yeah.

00:52:14 - 00:52:52 | Speaker 3:

Just, like, mass-producing pretty decent chocolate and getting it out there to the world. I mean, I've once done a TV story about fun-sized candy from the Mars Company. You'd think I would actually have more information at the tip of my brain. I kind of want to try to find that scene from The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe circa 1979. In fact, I may have located it here. Can I play this for you? Can I terrify the young listeners? Oh, boy. But I'll tell you what. It doesn't – the length that I found is the entire film. So now I'm trying to scrub through it really looking fine. Is she actually a witch? Is this the witch?

00:52:52 - 00:53:03 | Speaker 4:

I don't remember. I don't know if I saw the movie. I definitely read the books. I remember loving the series. I still have my original – like I think it's a seven-book series. I still have the original books that I grew up with.

00:53:04 - 00:53:29 | Speaker 3:

I may have read the books as well, but I definitely saw this cartoon, and it definitely freaked me out. First of all, any whipping of anything really freaked me out as a kid. I'm not even kidding. So this is this scary witch who's riding in on her, like, sled, and her little henchman is, like, whipping the reindeer or whatever.

00:53:31 - 00:53:31 | Unknown:

Stop!

00:53:35 - 00:53:40 | Speaker 1:

And what, pray tell, are you?

00:53:40 - 00:54:01 | Speaker 3:

that line has lived in my head for you know 35 years and like just it's so scary it was so scary to me as a kid and what pray tell are you she's coming up on one of the the kids the the the you know he's freezing cold doesn't have a jacket on and she's about to you know get uh you know

00:54:01 - 00:54:34 | Speaker 1:

give him some turkish delight i'm i'm my name's edmund is that how you address a queen i beg your Pardon, Your Majesty. I didn't know. Not know the Queen of Narnia? Ha! But you shall know us better hereafter. But I repeat, what are you? Please, Your Majesty. I don't know what you mean. Are you an overgrown dwarf that has cut off its beard? I'm a boy. A boy? Do you mean you are a son of Adam?

00:54:34 - 00:54:44 | Speaker 2:

Answer me once and for all Or I will lose my patience Are you human? Yes, you're not

00:54:44 - 00:54:54 | Speaker 3:

I could literally just watch this Now maybe this is the rest of the show Is me just watching this on YouTube I'm getting sucked in It's such a vivid childhood memory Anyway, she eventually gives him the Turkish delight

00:54:54 - 00:54:56 | Speaker 4:

I think that might be Sheila Hancock

00:54:56 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 3:

Who's Sheila Hancock? Stage and screen 1.

00:55:00 - 00:55:06 | Speaker 2:

That would make sense. I'm trying to figure out when we get to the Turkish delight part. Did I imagine that?

00:55:06 - 00:55:32 | Speaker 1:

It is a lovely place, my house. There are whole rooms full of Turkish delight. And what's more, I have no children of my own. I want a nice boy whom I could bring up as a prince and who would be king of Narnia when I'm gone.

00:55:33 - 00:55:36 | Speaker 2:

I have an entire room of applets and cutlets. No, I'm good.

00:55:37 - 00:55:39 | Speaker 3:

Okay, there it is. Oh, I heard it. I heard it there.

00:55:39 - 00:56:09 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, sure. No, I don't think I realized, I know you made this joke a minute ago, but I'm hoping that my eight, nine-year-old brain, whatever, was able to sort of grasp the obvious, like, parallels with, you know, Aslan and Jesus Christ, etc., the stone table and the cross. I hope that my feeble brain at that time was able to figure out this was a, you know, a sort of, you know, a reference to that. But I don't know. I may have not realized that until adulthood.

00:56:09 - 00:56:49 | Speaker 3:

Well, I don't know that I would have sussed it out myself. I'm just going to try to extend my S's. I don't know if you noticed that. Like the White Witch. My new thing. um i uh but i just knew it at some point i knew it i don't know if i knew it the first time i read it again like i kind of grew up with these books but i also grew up like you in a very christian family so you know and and then eventually you know i went to catholic school although i would have known this before i went to catholic school like yeah somehow i just i i feel like there was probably a moment where somebody was like yeah like with the stone table and the sacrifice i was like oh unicorn brain exploding also back then didn't they didn't mean anything and people thought

00:56:49 - 00:57:32 | Speaker 2:

i was not well what's funny is you would just draw it he would just randomly draw it on things that's why they made you see the school psychologist um that's what's interesting was i don't remember being as a kid particularly sad about jesus dying like i didn't empathize with jesus maybe this is the point of the lion the witch in the wardrobe but man it rocked my world when aslan had to go to that stone table you know what i mean yeah like and maybe that's the idea behind it is as a kid you if you grew up in a real christian household like i did the sort of jesus stuff is everywhere and you don't really like i was like yeah that you know that doesn't seem like a great time to end up on the cross but i didn't it didn't affect me emotionally the way that the idea of aslan willingly going to the stone table did i mean

00:57:32 - 00:59:13 | Speaker 3:

that really rocked my world you know i don't know how much i want to go down this road but i will respond with what I'm thinking right now, which is, I wonder if that is a difference between your, you know, very strict Christian upbringing, but my strict Catholic upbringing. I feel like the stereotype is, and I believe it's probably born out of some truth, that Catholicism talks a lot more about what happens on the cross, right? It's a little bit more of a grisly tale, but also it might humanize Jesus a little bit more like you know like I feel like I was a little kid and every Friday during Lent like I am holding a cross or I'm holding a um an incense chamber thing on a chain while we go step by step through the stations of the cross right and like did you feel bad for Jesus like because I didn't feel that bad for him I feel like yes because and I feel like the details of everything that happens not just the ending up on the cross but all of the humiliation that happens of him dragging the cross through the streets and people throwing stuff at him this is just like me trying to off the top of my head remember kind of the impressions that that i got at the time and and like the the just the insult upon injury the here's some water but it's actually gall you know like i feel like my education in this stuff really did focus on not just the physical pain, but the indignity and the, well, wrongheadedness seems like a weak word to use when talking about Pontius Pilate, but, well, we're here. So, anyway, I do wonder if that has something to do with me. Mistakes were made.

00:59:15 - 00:59:15 | Unknown:

Shit.

00:59:16 - 00:59:20 | Speaker 3:

Anyway, like I said, I probably shouldn't go down that, but I do wonder if that's part of it, my Catholicism.

00:59:21 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I do think that they really, in Catholicism, do really highlight the kind of, you know. Brutality. I'm trying to measure my words here Because we have a lot of listeners who are people of faith And I don't want to sound dismissive But all I can say is Had Jesus actually been a cartoon lion I might still be a practicing Christian Speaking of animals, Andrew Joe Biden is defending One of the first dogs The dog is named Major He recently told Not one of the first dogs to ever exist That's how old Joe Biden is He actually owns one of the first dogs That would

01:00:00 - 01:00:14 | Speaker 1:

ever domesticated um major is uh the dog that got some attention recently because it apparently uh kind of nipped a secret service uh staff member is it i didn't know that for sure it

01:00:14 - 01:00:19 | Speaker 2:

was secret service huh that's who this the staffer was security okay i don't know you know

01:00:19 - 01:01:16 | Speaker 1:

like if it technically was secret service somebody that was there and they're being pretty coy about who it was and in fact there seems to be a bit of disagreement on what even happened joe biden was talking to george stephanopoulos and he said a major the dog is a sweet dog just in need of some training this is brian naylor reporting uh on npr um he uh president biden came to the defense of his rescue dog major after the german shepherd caused what the president described as a minor incident last week at the white house uh he said the the president said that major uh was just startled in his new home when he caused what the white house called A minor injury to someone last week This is what President Biden Said you turn a corner and there's Two people you don't know at all Biden said in an interview and he Moves to protect but he's a sweet dog 85% of the people there love him Raising the question Andrew What's going on with the other 15%

01:01:16 - 01:01:23 | Speaker 2:

I would have given a bigger percentage there I guess I don't know Yeah 15% of people don't like this dog Seems big to me

01:01:23 - 01:02:16 | Speaker 1:

That's actually a lot of people that don't You know, I have to be honest with you, and I love dogs, obviously. I'm not somebody who's particularly scared around dogs, but I know that there are people who are because of having bad experiences. And could you imagine if you work in the White House? I do love that Major and the other dog are both adopted from the Delaware Humane Society. I like that, of course, the Bidens have rescue dogs. I mean, Trump had no dogs and then the Bidens are having rescue dogs. I think that's a cool thing. But if I worked in the White House, the dogs are just literally like in the Oval Office. They just walk around the White House. And if one of them is a little bit jumpy, I and it's a German Shepherd. It's not like a small dog like that would stress me out if I was a person who was not comfortable around dogs. But I wanted to work in the White House.

01:02:16 - 01:03:21 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, German Shepherds, especially, and, you know, no offense to people who have German Shepherds in their lives whom they love. I know that they are sweet dogs, but there is something about the physicality of a German Shepherd that I find to be really intimidating. Somebody, when this story first broke a couple of weeks ago, somebody wrote, well, all German Shepherds are cops anyway. And I was like, yeah, why does that? Where's the truth there, you know? And like I'm somehow even – I think I'm like more intimidated by a German shepherd than even something with like a pit in there or what have you, the dogs that are more associated with violence in our society. And I don't know why. I don't know what it is about their buildup or their makeup is what I was looking for there. But anyway, so I could kind of understand that. Like I grew up terrified of dogs. I think you know that. Like just terrified as a little kid of dogs, even tiny dogs. my like great aunt's dog cornered me in a hallway and it really stuck with me um that's a bad feeling right now of course i love dogs but i think that i would be more cautious around a german shepherd

01:03:21 - 01:04:59 | Speaker 1:

than other dogs yeah they i you know caveat has already been you know put out there that we have listeners that probably have german shepherds and love them but there is something about the fact that they're often used for canine duty and that um you know they're just uh they can be kind of intimidating uh i will tell you that um i when i was at uh doing that tv story uh jim belushi's pot farm uh which are words i probably wouldn't have expected to say when i was 19 years old exploding in that order head but um uh he had he had this dog and it was actually a czechoslovakian shepherd yeah and i don't i mean this was my guess is this is a fifty thousand dollar dog between the like actual like fee for the dog and then the training of the dog and then getting it here from Czechoslovakia which doesn't exist anymore I know the Czech Republic so I guess it was a Czech Shepherd this a dog was the freaking coolest sweetest dog I had ever seen in my life like it I don't think I'd ever really just like palled around with a shepherd from like generally that region of the world or with that kind of lineage because of the fact like you said they're usually kind of a little protective of their territory or being used by cops i mean ironically i do think that jim belushi was in a movie called canine which is maybe where he got into those dogs but like oh was he in that that's great i think it's like him and a dog right but this dog was so cool i was like obsessed with this dog like i was moderately interested in talking to jim belushi i was maximally interested in playing with this dog along the rogue river he was

01:05:00 - 01:05:28 | Speaker 2:

so cute and it made me think man if i ever have 50 000 and i want to blow it on a dog which seems like an unlikely scenario ever happening to me i would get one of these dogs this this particular kind of check us a check shepherd you know it's interesting and this is how everything ties together but the film good i'm glad you have a plan for that the film canine came out the same year that family ties wrapped up their series that you don't believe in a god

01:05:28 - 01:05:38 | Speaker 1:

here i go once again with the email every week i hope that it's from a female no man it's not from

01:05:38 - 01:08:37 | Speaker 2:

a female all right lee uh what are you seeing in the email and vmail department sir um oh this is good this is good announcement hello everybody what is it i'm combining two different drops There's madames and monsieurs. That would be Chris Pratt from Parks and Rec. And then there is just an internet video where someone says, I'm leaving this party. Yes, I'm leaving this party. Anyway, TBTL fun time announcement. Short time listeners will remember last year around this time. Jake in Chicago, a.k.a. The Perfect Daddy. Uh-huh. I just wanted to see if I got a reaction there. I'm just trying to get reactions out of you these days. Jake in Chicago put together a bracket competition called Drops of Stupider, where he asked listeners to submit their favorite audio drops of all time in TBTL. He compiled a list of probably hundreds of them, and then he let everybody vote on them individually, the drops. And then eventually we were down to 64 finalists, which Jake then put together in an NCAA bracket style. competition damn man i don't remember what won this is embarrassing do you remember what won the drops of stupider this isn't this is appallingly bad radio on my part well i don't remember either so at least there's that yeah but i knew this was coming up i should have done my done my i should have studied it out studied it out did that one win maybe it was down to denzel washington say i didn't know like you like to get wet that did not i don't think that made the cuts them out. That's a tuna, bro. I like Turtles. I feel happy of myself. We're contenders. We're the finalists. But it looks like it was down to I don't watch the news because I'm a kid versus Power Out, and I think Power Out ended up winning. Oh, yeah, of course. That would make sense. Listener generated. Played every day, I should say. Yeah, so I think it was Power Out that won. See, that was smooth. Okay, in three, two, one. And everybody remembers that Power Out, of course, won the competition last year. Well, Jake wants to bring back something similar. He's calling this, listen for the distinction. Okay, hold on. Drops of stew pitter, where stew is T-W-O. This is the second in a series. Oh, I see. Stew. Two. The number two. Two pitter. And this time, though, since we've already gone through all the drops, He wants to do a tournament based on favorite moments in TBTL history. This is from Jake. I want to put the word out for nominations slash suggestions for the favorite segment over the years.

01:08:38 - 01:10:00 | Speaker 2:

I'll make a Google form and post it to Facebook and Slack. Those should be up now. And people can make any and all nominations that jump to mind. Once the submissions are over, people can vote on their favorites. Once all the votes are in, I'll take the top 24 vote getters, break them into four divisions, make a bracket, et cetera. So this will be a lot of fun. And I'm interested to see what what pops up, especially since I've been like kind of going back and listening to some old tape lately. This kind of and also I just don't think we talk about ourselves in kind of self-reference enough on this show. So I'm looking forward. Right. It will be interesting research or interesting data because I don't necessarily. I mean, we eventually hear from people, but I don't have a good sense of when we're actually doing an okay job with the show and when we aren't. Yeah, me too. Like what the listeners suggest as a favorite moment will probably not be what I would think of as our best moments. And you just kind of never know what somebody is going to connect with. Yes. I mean, I think there are a few. Maybe I shouldn't spoil the well. I feel like there are some iconic things that are out there, moments, you know, like pizza eating, roof sitting, et cetera. that kind of pop up a lot, and I get some of that feedback from the newsletter. Oh, this is a fun thing, too. Oh, Luke, I'll tell you about this. I don't think you know. Kiki Lolo and I are on a project right now to switch up the 10 of the week quest.

01:10:00 - 01:10:19 | Speaker 1:

We've been asking the same questions for five years now. I have a working list of what maybe listeners have already submitted a lot of suggestions for new questions for the TBTL newsletter to get to know your fellow 10s. So I took those submissions and I've narrowed it down. And we might have something to reveal there pretty soon as well.

01:10:19 - 01:10:25 | Speaker 2:

Cool. Now, we can always use more 10 of the week submissions as well. How should people do that?

01:10:25 - 01:12:34 | Speaker 1:

Uh, just sign, uh, uh, go to tbtl.net. I'm prepared. I'm sick of people saying I'm not prepared. Power out. Go to tbtl.net and, uh, click the button that is about halfway down the page, uh, that says become a 10 of the week. Um, so yeah, so we're doing that. But anyway, thank you so much to Jake. A lot of work goes into this, like him collecting all the suggestions and I don't know if he will do it in this case, but I know last time, you know, finding all the audio and, uh, and everything that goes along with it. So, Jake, thank you so much for putting this out there. And everybody else, you can make your submissions now. Again, if you go to the Stens page or if you're on the TBTL Slack channel, those things are posted there. If you don't play in either one of those spaces but you really want to participate, you can email me and I will forward your email to Jake. Although I'd prefer you to use the sources that he set up. Okay, can I read another email? This is from Steven in Brooklyn. This is about targeted ads. We talked about this very, very briefly in a top story roundup last week about how T-Mobile is somehow collecting more personalized data from T-Mobile customers for more personalized ads directed at them. And I had mentioned that Instagram specifically, I have curated ads purposely clicking on things that I find to be kind of beautiful. Like one thing that I see a lot in my Instagram feed is of advertisements for nice watches because I think watches are a really beautiful thing. I'm not in the market for a watch, but it doesn't break up my Instagram scrolling if I see a beautiful watch, a photo of a nice watch in my feed. So anyway, Stephen says, you're talking about how you click on ads that you find interesting to more or less feed the algorithm and get more relevant ads. I was laughing because I take a similar but completely opposite tack. I started clicking on things that I'd never want because I was afraid relevant ads would have me spending money that I shouldn't be spending I was getting a lot of ads for used synthesizers yes please and build your own hurdy-gurdy kits sure why not what is a hurdy-gurdy again it's like a squeeze box

01:12:34 - 01:12:36 | Speaker 2:

I think so

01:12:36 - 01:13:27 | Speaker 1:

I'm not a very new agey person is that what you call woo-woo my family calls it crystal licking no judging it's just not for me that's great that's my new favorite we're gonna get down to sedona and do some crystal licking you a crystal liquor no judgy it's just not for me but i started clicking on ads for tie-dye blankets and amethyst crystals how are you putting amethyst and synthesizer in this email when you know i have a list but i can't say these words um i'm now bombarded with ads i will never find tempting it is great let me know if you need a deal on a chunky wooden bead necklace that also has rose quartz infuser in it i also search for and click sponsored links of things i don't need from car insurance to catheter delivery services i've clicked it all and that's from steve brooklyn

01:13:27 - 01:14:33 | Speaker 2:

that is a fascinating approach yeah the way that we're all being bombarded with ads yeah um speaking of things that are fascinating can we wrap up andrew uh with we don't do all nine but a couple of fantastically furry facts about the brilliant canine the movie canine the movie canine jim belushi and a dog who is named rando i guess here are a couple of um fascinating facts about that movie over 40 dogs auditioned for the film andrew did you know that this is from uh jerry lee the canine was credited as being played by a dog also called jerry lee although in reality a number of different dogs were used in the filming process over 40 dogs were auditioned for the film most of the american german shepherds were not deemed suitable so the filmmakers hired a dog named rando uh who was a three-year-old german shepherd uh yes you guessed it andrew from germany did you know that uh rando the dog improvised some of his scenes i didn't i did not although

01:14:33 - 01:14:37 | Speaker 1:

So, you know, it's hard for me to see him reading off a script.

01:14:38 - 01:14:39 | Unknown:

I know.

01:14:39 - 01:14:42 | Speaker 2:

I would say they were all improvised.

01:14:42 - 01:14:45 | Speaker 1:

In a manner. To a certain degree. Yes.

01:14:45 - 01:14:59 | Speaker 2:

Do you remember the scene in which Jerry Lee pretends to be dead after being brought into a recovery room after surgery? I believe that was the dog his name, Jerry Lee. Well, believe it or not, that wasn't even in the script, Andrew. Well, Rando is the real name of the dog. Oh, sorry. Like

01:15:00 - 01:15:06 | Speaker 1:

for instance like tom cruise when he's in mission impossible his name is not tom cruise the character

01:15:06 - 01:15:12 | Speaker 2:

has a different name are you let me look that up as soon as i get down to the bottom of applets

01:15:12 - 01:15:41 | Speaker 1:

and cotlets i don't know what the i don't i the problem with that is i don't know what the name of the character he plays in mission impossible is yeah i don't either his name might be tom cruise i'm not 100 sure rando the german shepherd decided to play dead which the cast and crew found hilarious. Luckily, they were also filming this piece of doggy improvisation, so they were able to add it to the finished film. Just a couple of fun, furry facts. I love them. They're making me furrious. Too fast, too furrious?

01:15:44 - 01:15:53 | Speaker 2:

I like that, although I don't know that I can spell that in a way as a show title that would actually differentiate it from furious. Can we

01:15:53 - 01:15:55 | Speaker 1:

go out with this? Did you already have a thought on the song

01:15:55 - 01:15:58 | Speaker 2:

No, I was frantically looking for songs about dogs, and I was going to suggest Dog Days are a movie.

01:15:58 - 01:16:23 | Speaker 1:

Can we go out with a song by Dr. Dog? Oh, yeah, that sounds good. The band from Philly that I love. Can we go out with The Heart It Races? Mm-hmm. Which I like a lot. So there you go. I'm also going to send you – I don't know if we can use it or not, but I'm going to send you a picture, a publicity shot of Jim Belushi and Rando the dog that I just love because the dog has its paw on Jim's shoulder in a very human-like way.

01:16:23 - 01:16:44 | Speaker 2:

so this is interesting Luke I did not know this I only found this song by Dr. Dog unless this is the wrong one Heart at Races is a song by Architecture in Helsinki but they released an album or I'm sorry an EP where they have their version and then five different bands covering it and one of them is Dr. Dog also Yacht is a band that I like

01:16:44 - 01:16:47 | Speaker 1:

that's a fascinating furry fact

01:16:47 - 01:17:02 | Speaker 2:

I'm going to play the this says it's cover version by Dr. Dog Tell me if this is the song you're thinking of to make sure I'm not going down the wrong path here. It starts with this, famously. Yep, this is the song.

01:17:02 - 01:17:04 | Speaker 1:

There you go. It's an architecture and health system song.

01:17:04 - 01:17:04 | Speaker 2:

Wow, who knew?

01:17:05 - 01:17:21 | Speaker 1:

Well, you knew when you read that, and then you told me, and now the listeners know. Yeah, we all know. All right, that's going to do it for today's episode. Thanks for listening, everyone. Happy St. Patrick's Day. Try not to fight anyone like Andrew and I like to do. In fact, stay safe. Stay masked up. Have a great Wednesday. We'll see you tomorrow. Until then, please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

01:17:22 - 01:17:25 | Speaker 2:

Sturted with my fingers Boom-da-da-da-da-da

01:17:25 - 01:17:26 | Unknown:

Boom-da-da-da-da-da

01:17:26 - 01:17:28 | Speaker 2:

Threw it out the window

01:17:28 - 01:17:36 | Unknown:

Lady, you've been dead Suspicious for the winter Wake up Boom-da-da-da-da-da Boom-da-da-da-da-da

01:17:36 - 01:17:48 | Speaker 2:

Lakes like little splinter Lakes like little splinter

01:17:52 - 01:18:00 | Unknown:

And we're slow to

01:18:00 - 01:18:03 | Speaker 1:

Acknowledge the knots In our latest

01:18:03 - 01:18:27 | Unknown:

Are the races And we go back To where we moved out To the places Are the races I'm sorry to remember He threw him out that window He made his life away

01:18:27 - 01:18:53 | Speaker 1:

Power out.

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