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is it's extremely personal all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a tuesday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live well shit what are y'all doing i had that whole four minutes of intro tape to take a sip of my coffee and i was just sitting here distracting myself with other things and then right when it was my turn to talk right when i was finally getting around to that i think i would be better at this 3 385 episodes in by the way this being tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live me being luke burbank your host everybody wants to be the beast but they don't want to do what the beast do coming to you from the nest broadcast center high in the sky above portland oregon where we have a great show in store for you let the fun begin now that i am sufficiently coffeed up and no i will not be ordering any uh overpriced delivered coffee today apologies to the uh listeners with uh misophonia who probably didn't like hearing me sip that coffee and are very much not fans we learned in an email of the tape of the guy tasting the ice cream that we've been playing that gets real mouth sound real fast but for people who like that kind of thing they really like it so anyway uh here's a plan for today's episode of the show our favorite favorite and by favorite i mean we don't like him at all cranky 90 year old is on the internet spock sabotage the system. Once again, demonstrating that he has a very high opinion of himself and thinks that humans and other life forms coming hundreds, if not thousands of years from now should listen to his stories and sit at his virtual feet. That is, William Shatner is back in the news. We'll talk about that. I'm also playing a dangerous game in that department this morning, which I'll explain more on coming up. Also, yesterday on the show, we wanted to read some of these interesting facts about animals how about like pranking an animal that i think the list is technically to read to your kids but i was absolutely dazzled by these things such as the fact that hibernating turtles actually breathe through their butts and also a shrimp's heart is actually in its head speaking of shrimp by the way interesting story on the internet about a fella named jensen carp who was innocently eating some cinnamon toast crunch cereal and what did he find in there sugar-coated shrimp tails previously

on cereal their response from the internet was kind of interesting uh so we'll get into that time permitting plus emails and females and of course we'll talk to this guy the longest running co-bro of the show made best known for his drawings of the tall ships he has got to start making sure that he has breakfast before showtime maybe i'll eat these words maybe i'll eat this mic because he's very hungry he is andrew walsh and he's joining me right now from the roosevelt

neighborhood of seattle washington good morning my friend hi buddy usually what you say right i was just waiting for that boy you just get used to something and you take it away I could have just sat there waiting all day for you to say, good morning, my friend. But I had to say it myself. That was just because you forgot to unmute your mic? No, you always say, good morning, my friend, or you always say something. And this time you didn't. And now I was just waiting like a boy with his baseball glove sitting on the stairs.

Speaking of which, Andrew, I know this is going to sound patronizing, and I don't mean it to, but I'm very proud of you today. I'm very proud of you, young man. Just imagine me tussling your hair and telling you I'm very proud of you today. Speaking of baseball.

Speaking of infantilizing you, I mean, I wouldn't be infantilizing you because you wouldn't be an infant in this scenario. Would that be tween-fantilizing you? Because I see you as about 11 years old at this point.

Don't say tween-fantilizing on the show, please. Don't Google that either, probably. Yep, let's just have a nice, clean, straightforward show today without any kind of beeping or problematic mentions.

So you and I are going to co-manage this fantasy. That was how I mentioned fantasy football. That's how Vanessa would say it. Fantasy.

Like she's holding a clear orb in her hands and maybe wearing a wizard hat.

Some kind of wizard's cloak. And just as a way of pointing out how ridiculous it is as an enterprise. And it is. But anyway, we're going to be on this fantasy baseball team. and it's pretty complicated and like most things that happen in our friendship and in our professional life together I kind of roped us into it and then you ended up doing a lot of the research and communicating with various friends and baseball knowers and today was the day that we have to tell the other people in the league we inherited a team full of players and today was the day that we had to tell the other teams the players that we were going to hold on to are keepers these are the the guys that are not available for the draft for when you pick which other players you want on your team and you did some deep dives yesterday and put together a very solid list and then reported it out to the league today and uh i'm very impressed and i'm not joking at all because the initial my initial scan of the situation was very off as far as the the the guys on our team that I would have said we should keep because I was using some I was using the wrong way to measure those things. Anyway, I really appreciate the fact that you are kind of geeking out on this and that you're learning things. And I was quite I was impressed and

appreciative this morning. Yeah, no problem. I it's it's interesting. Yesterday was a very interesting day because, you know, you knew that I had some low level anxiety about going into this And it wasn't that the stakes are very high at all. We're doing it for fun. It's our very first time doing this. Like, if we end up last in the league, like, I don't – there's no repercussions. I don't think they're – the boys aren't going to paddle me, are they? These guys might. Oh. Do I get a – if we win, we get a spanking, and if we lose, we get a spanking, right? That's the weird part. That's my understanding of how it works. I'm actually saying that because I believe that Genevieve was – Sometimes Genevieve just likes to retell me jokes from 30 Rock that I've forgotten, and it's our love language.

I do that all the time. I mean, with you and with other people in my life, it's often The Simpsons or something I wrote on Twitter that I feel like didn't get enough engagement.

Right. I'm with Genevieve on this. Thank God Genevieve does not do that. I am the more did-you-see-my-tweet type of fella in our relationship than she is. But anyway, yeah, so it's not like the stakes are very high, but it's just like if we're going into this. What was the 30 Rock joke? Oh, the 30 Rock joke was Jack Donaghy mentioned something early in one episode about, like, Liz does something off or wrong, and he says, Professor So-and-so would have given you a spanking for that. Then later on in the show, she does something right, and he says, Professor So-and-so would have given you a good girl spanking for that or something like that. I love the way that show will just spread a joke across. Right. Like, you know, this like you don't think of it as like a callback show the way Arrested Development is 100 percent based on callbacks to the point where they collapsed under their own weight in the in the seasons four and five where they were. Right. They were setting things up that weren't funny the first time and then calling back to them. And you're like, oh, I guess that's supposed to be retroactively funny.

I don't there's no way for me to prove this, but I feel like that joke, that Jack Donaghy joke feels like it was written by whoever did the primary writing for Dr. spaceman like there's sort of an absurdist there's like i don't have the the categories like really defined in my mind so this is where this is gonna stop being interesting real fast but i feel like what i love about 30 rock is there's a few different styles of humor that are deployed just in the in the in the writing for the characters and like you know whoever writes dr spaceman it's just it's it's kind of like the most absurd part of the end of the spectrum of Tracy, your blood is mostly root beer Just like the stuff that Dr. Spaceman says is so off And the idea of this professor spanking you For both good things and bad things I don't know why, I feel like it came out of the same person's brain I'll never be able to prove it, let's just move on And go back to patting old 11 year old Andy On the back for his good baseball stuff Let's just listen to him Tracy, you are going to die

What? No! When I tell you who I'm dating squeaky Fromm, she is difficult. I love that so much. That's in the same scene, by the way, where he says what you were referencing, the root beer thing. You have no reflexes, your blood tastes like root beer, and some of your bones appear to have vanished.

Squeaky Fromm.

I know. It's such a good squeaky Fromm drop, isn't it?

Squeaky Fromm of all. Difficult. was she incarcerated at the time had she been released is she released I feel like at some point they I think they paroled a couple of them anyway I'm looking this up I don't know I appreciate the job you've done already for our fantasy team the high school Bud C League

what I was going to say is the reason I had a certain level of anxiety was because we were going into this and I literally did not know how the game is played It's like, I can't think of a good analogy. Let's see, games. Okay, Monopoly. Okay, let's just say that you're supposed to go and you're about to play a high stakes, even though I just said the stakes are low, game of Monopoly. But you literally have never seen the board before. Like, we've played fantasy football, but every time I'd sort of reach out to a friend and say, you know, hey, how does this work? They'd be like, oh, man. You know, like my friend Udich, who listens to this show, he'd be like, oh, no, man. Like, fantasy football is checkers. Now you're playing chess. I'd be like, that doesn't help. play to win the game like what how does pitching work and like I literally just didn't know and there are just some key things that as the day went on I just started I started spreading the questions out across three or four different people in my life so I wasn't bombarding all one person but then my incredibly baseball obsessive friend Paul who lives here in town like he's he's literally got every baseball prospectus book like the physical copy of it going back i think 15 years or something he used to hang out and chase around the minor league team when he lived in um when he lived in dc so like that that cat knows what's going on but i worried that he's so in the weeds on some of this stuff that when we give our list of so-called keepers to the rest of the league like is it going to look like we're crazy because he's a crazy madman like am i going with my gut here also i haven't heard heard of a lot of these players because i'm not that much into baseball you know like so waking up yesterday I was like I don't even know where to begin with this but then by the time the day ended and we had our list of five keepers out of whatever our roster is 22 it really felt like I accomplished something today like I woke up with my brain lacking a huge chunk of information and a lot of stuff was filled in now there's still a lot we have a long road to go Luke we're one week away from the draft people are telling me that I need a pee bottle for this and that I have to wear special socks, which I will not be doing. But, you know, in our football stuff, I usually, I'm going to whisper this part, I usually just let the computer do it. And that's verboten in this world, apparently. So we still have a long, we have a pretty big hill to climb, but I do feel like we accomplished something yesterday.

But let's get down to a more important question, Andrew. Are we now, you and I, spending too much time together? Are we over the FDA-recommended amount of hours a day that two people who are not in a romantic relationship interact? Because yesterday was we did the show, then communicated sporadically throughout the day, talked about the baseball stuff a bit, Then had like a two plus hour Zoom hangout With our friend Eric the Viking Stromstad Just purely for social hangouts And then got up this morning And then immediately dialed this up And have started talking again We've got this fantasy team That we're gonna It's gonna involve a lot of conversations Outside of the show Like, I mean, you know Many lesser men and women Have buckled under the experience Of spending this much time with me, Andrew

are you really ready for this? Well, I wanted to talk to you about that. I do feel like I need my space, Luke. I just need to breathe. You know, it was fun yesterday. During this entire pandemic, I have avoided doing Zoom chats with people. I actually kind of dislike them. I don't like video conferencing, as we've talked about on the show before. When it comes to work meetings, It took me a long time to get into the Zoom situation. I was always just calling in on my phone because I just I'm I think it's maybe generational. It seems somewhat curmudgeonly of me, but I like to pace around when I'm talking on the phone, maybe take out the garbage, maybe putter around the kitchen. I like to do things with my hands, especially if I'm going to be on the phone with somebody for like two and a half hours, as we did talk with Eric yesterday. But I think it really does speak to, yes, my love for you to a degree, but also our love for Eric. Eric is one of those co-workers Because of course he works with us at American Public Media And has helped us He's really helped us get into and out of a lot of jams Professionally and technically Including

This seems minor but like About once Every six weeks I call him frantically From the hotel room somewhere Because I can't make my little special recording box work And he always picks up the phone And although he said last night Nine out of ten times he does which makes me think there's that 10th time where he looks at the number and he's like, nope, not today. But but generally speaking, is yet just so helpful to the show.

Yes. And but but the thing is, like, this is one of those things where I think other people have had this situation, too, where there's somebody maybe that you work with and you mostly see them, you know, surrounding work types of situations. Now, when we're in Minnesota, we see Eric, whether or not he's working on a project with us. But it's still like we're in Minnesota for work. Right. Like our relationship has always been tied to that in some way. But like suddenly we're grounded. The country has been grounded, you know, for the past year. And we have had no real excuse just to go get a beer with Eric, the Viking Stromstead. And so we're just like, I think we kind of need to do this. And I was like, yeah, one of us said like either me or Eric said to the other one, like, I wouldn't usually do this.

but i think we need to have a zoom i know you know it's funny because you sort of proposed it last week you're like hey would you would you want to do this just hang out just socialize and i also am avoiding you know any non like mandatory work zooming i avoid it kind of like the plague as a lot of people do now and we are avoiding the plague yes well yeah in this case literally like the plague but yeah for some reason i was like you know what i miss the dude it'll be fun it won't feel like a work thing because we'll just be BS and and so yeah I don't I don't understand why I agreed to it frankly because it's it's I have a pretty strong policy against it maybe it's been enough time I mean at the beginning remember the beginning of the pandemic how we were all zooming it up socially kind of a lot actually I even did a TV story about

virtual happy hours and I think that did that rerun recently by the way because the date on it I was looking for some I was trying to put together a sizzle reel for you Luke I don't know if you know that but I went to CBS I guess just CBS or CBS Sunday morning and I just typed in your name to see the recent stories you'd been working on because somebody wanted to kind of keep track of that stuff at 8 p.m. and in a good way not a bad way just wanted to know about your media appearances anyway I saw that that thing had a date on it of like February of 2021 I wonder if they re-aired it or something that'd be strange it seems like sorry I'm really interrupting you here but this is another thing like time moved at a weird pace and maybe a varying pace for people during the pandemic but there were definitely stages of it and like i just feel like rerunning something from the beginning of a pandemic like things that like that at the beginning of the pandemic had a very early pandemic feel right as opposed to a year later yeah i don't know i wonder

if this has to do with the way the date appears on the website yeah you're right they probably would have mentioned it to me like hey we're gonna put this back on tv but just that vibe of like the the kind of i feel like the the arc of the journey for all of us was like oh shit we're all stuck at home and it was like oh wow you know we can kind of hang out and and kind of like still socialize and be safe and that felt like something and then about a week later we're like uh yeah no that's horrible we don't want to do that anymore because it just we're all going to stare at screens way too much as it is but maybe my you know our maybe we're now finally back at this point where it it doesn't seem like the the sort of most uh depressing thing to do also you know what i wonder if it has to do with the fact that real life is starting up again in places and again you know see miami for some examples of probably not great expression of this uh you know in terms of all the spring breakers but like there is probably something about feeling like the world is starting to at least the united states is starting to kind of open up again for better or for worse and so i'm sure that's playing some part uh in my brain as far as like now a zoom like when a zoom meeting or a zoom hang with our friend eric felt like the only socializing that we were going to be able to do all week maybe that made it feel kind of unappealing but now that i know it's one of a few different things i could do i could go have a beer at a picnic table outside in portland with someone relatively safely today if i wanted to you know or you could

do it by yourself and just see if people look you just like set up in a park somewhere sit

at a picnic table maybe get one of those uh free hugs signs you know are those back yet when are those coming back those gonna be one of the last things to come back online how about you get a shirt that says hug me i'm vaccinated i you know what i have heard that there are people they sell masks now that say vaccinated on the mess and i have to be totally honest with you i would be tempted to wear that because i can't see you wearing that i can't you could you can't even wear a band a t-shirt

with a band on it anymore can you no the reason would just be to allay other people's fears a little bit because what i feel like i'm doing right now and i know we want to be careful when we talk about this stuff but i because i am vaccinated i it's very hard for me at times to shake the feeling that i am just doing something performative with the mask i got my haircut yesterday went and watched my matthew mcconaughey dog video uh did all the steps and the very nice uh hairstylist who was cutting my hair of course you know i'm wearing a mask and i'm uh she was gonna get the sideburns and you know you kind of got to do that trick where you're like holding the mask against your you're holding the mask against your face with the elastic part but in such a way they can still get to the hair and you know at no time did i even mention to this person that i am vaccinated with the pfizer vaccine and for i would say all intents and purposes up to a pretty high statistical point unlikely to have the virus or transmit it like i'm vaccinated but i go i do all the things of course i wear the mask i wear the mask anytime i'm outside of this apartment i do all of those things and yet unless there's something i'm not understanding from a kind of transmission standpoint it seems pretty unlikely that i would really could give anyone the virus right that's is that the latest understanding we have

of this whole thing i can't sign off on that because i don't know the latest on what i i don't know but i mean i know that you know of course just the bottom line is they're saying just keep wearing the mask we all have to keep wearing the masks and generally speaking even from just a you have a social engineering drop like from a social engineering perspective it's just a good thing like we're all still just normalizing mask wearing but i mean same with me i mean you can't argue that it's not performative for me to social engineering there it is what is it exactly man how does it work keeps going um uh but um you know walking down you're not vaccinated right no but i think it's pretty performative walking down the sidewalk without not in a group of people just walking down the sidewalk by myself which i often do um you know like yesterday had to take old theodore to the vet it's had to walk there take him there walk back you know so i'm just So I constantly walk around the neighborhood going to get a cup of coffee, doing this, whatever. And I'm always wearing my mask outside. I'm not in a group of people. I'm not necessarily standing at a stoplight or, you know, don't walk sign with a group of people. But I mean, just at a brisk pace walking by myself. I don't really enjoy wearing the mask because it starts to get, you know, a little fogs up my glasses as I start to, you know, work up a little bit more exercise. but i do it because it's performative because we are all supposed to wear masks right yeah

right and the reason that i have been tempted to tell people i have mentioned to people sometimes that i'm vaccinated is only because i am hoping that it then takes five percent of the anxiety off of their brain amen yep you know what i mean but i don't take the world that i'm doing i'm doing other things too but it's like i wouldn't take i wouldn't say i'm vaccinated and then i would like take the mask off but but you know what i mean like so i'll get in the elevator it's happened before and some of it was probably the euphoria of having been vaccinated but it was like the people in this building are they're very impolite about putting dog poop in a garbage can that should not have it and by the way that is that is that has gone on unabated andrew i am gonna have to laminate a note pretty soon here but um it's it's gotten it's gotten worse i don't know if it was like one person did it and then other people thought yeah we can throw our our dog poop bags into this tiny stainless steel like off you know office building style garbage can that's clearly meant for like a crumpled up receipt or something um but anyway they're not great with that but what they are pretty good at in this building is everybody asks permission to get in the elevator if there's somebody already in it good and the answer is always is generally always sure but sometimes what i'll do if somebody gets in and they're being very hesitant and then they get in and they're almost being apologetic i might mention it's you know i'm fine i feel comfortable riding in the elevator with you by the way i'm vaccinated so you know you don't have to worry too much about me at this point or for yourself to me it's a way of just hoping that it

makes them feel a little bit less anxious um don't do that thing like a jock like a high school jock um hitting on somebody like putting one hand up on a locker and leaning kind of into their personal space and saying don't worry about it i'm vaccinated don't do that body language don't do that don't do that at least going forward i thought i would i thought that the plan was to

do that no is that why i'm not allowed to take the elevator anymore the way i use the stairs why it says no luke's ah they that sign they laminated yeah but don't please stop throwing your dog poop bags in the tiny elevator lobby garbage can that one they can't get to um yeah so but you know me also andrew it's like i and i am a firm believer in masks and i and i honestly if they if they told me you got to keep wearing a mask for another year i just think i guess that's what i got to do like i'm very into going along with this program which is unusual for me because historically i don't like things that feel just performative for the sake of like it's why i rail against the tsa um which i have many times called security theater like i don't think that they're catching terrorists when they take away my bottle of pert plus or whatever it's like jk i use a shampoo that has something called nioxin in it because it's supposed to slow my hair loss ever so slightly um which i wouldn't even dare bring that to the airport because if they took it away it'd be like 50 bucks

it's like not cheap can i ask you a quick question about pert plus i don't know if we've talked about this do you remember it wasn't always pert plus it was just pert and then they combined them and they combined did they combine shampoo and conditioner and called it pert plus and that was their you know that was their it's toasted or whatever that was their killer app and then regular purchase went away and now it's just pert plus that's a really good point i remember being

a kid i remember pert plus thinking wow the burbank family ship has really come in we've

upgraded to pert plus and i believe the plus was combining instead of having two bottles one of shampoo and one of conditioner we've combined them not unlike the peanut butter and jelly combined in the jar that happened around the same time although my family did not go in for that

while we were a pert plus family yeah i um for somebody who is very vain and very like concerned about what the beauty, if you will, products I'm using are. Other than the fact that I have this shampoo that alleges to maybe slow down the rate that my hair is falling out. Other than that, I would still be using Pert Plus. I have no opinion on shampoo or conditioner, which is weird for me because I am very persnickety about those kinds of things, but I just don't care.

It happened in 1987. Oh, and by the way, Squeaky From was released from prison in 2009.

Okay.

But anyway, 2007, Pert Plus, American brand of shampoo and conditioner, two-in-one product, introduced in 87 by Procter & Gamble. And, you know, am I wrong, though, that there was a PERT before PERT Plus?

I think there was. I think there was. I think their mistake, though, was when they released Crystal PERT Plus, the clear PERT Plus. Red, no! It just didn't land the way they had expected it to with the American consumers.

Oh, man. I had a Crystal Pepsi. Remember, they re-released it a couple years ago. I had it.

So just back to my original question, Andrew, you're not going to get sick of me, even though we're going to be we're going to start communicating more outside of the show because of this baseball thing.

I am. I do think that you and I need to come up with I'm not too worried about getting sick of you. But we're also working on our plans for the TV telethon, in which case I don't know exactly how that's going to come together because we have to come up with something that, again, is is safe. But I'm sure that will involve us being together probably for a week again, like we did last June or May. So, yeah, there's going to be a lot of this. And I do think like this draft situation, I think that you and I should probably be on a Zoom call again on this day a week from today. Probably we should be Zooming it up and doing this draft thing. You should do that. I picked the keepers. You do the draft. I'm actually going to go for a walk. Wow. With your mask on. With my mask on that says I'm not vaccinated.

Everybody in the world that Mr. Mask is here. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break, and then when we come back, get the latest on Bill Shatner and why General Mills is placing Shrimp Tales in its Cinnamon Toast Crunch and then denying it publicly. All coming up in a moment on TBTL. On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready.

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Let's thank some dazzling donors, wonderful, generous people who are donating to the show, keeping us in business, a not insignificant sum of money each month. Thank you so much to Julie Lim, who is in Phoenix, Arizona. I am such a big fan of the show, Julie writes. It's hard to do anything well five days a week, and Luke and Andrew somehow always deliver a great pod cart. And out of respect for the fact that Julie is supporting the show, Andrew, I am going to leave that sentence uncommented upon. That's really sweet. It's so nice. And, of course, my tendency is towards self-deprecation and towards roasting us and the show. But, you know, Julie is saying this has value to her. In fact, she's helping support it financially. And so I'm going to support that notion today and not say something.

mean about us okay yeah do you mind if I jump in here though and say something in all sincerity that's going to sound like I'm doing what you don't want me to do but I'm not doing that what's the difference we'll find out together but I felt like yesterday was one of those shows as often happens on Monday my brain is very slow to wake up on Mondays and you know I ended yesterday's show just thinking it was another clunker on my part not the show was a clunker but just like feeling like I was racing to catch up mentally the entire show didn't feel like I was nailing it just felt a little sloppy yesterday and then after the show I got a note from a listener who just reminded me of some joke that I muttered I literally don't remember already what it was I saw the email this morning but it just he just wrote in to say hey that really made my day and it speaks to something that you often try to remind us or me about which is people aren't people aren't listening in the same way we're experiencing it right like Like all I felt yesterday was like a clumsy fool. But other people were like, oh, no, I really liked it when you said this thing that you didn't kind of realize landed with me, you know. And so it really is nice to know that people like Julie are having those experiences.

Yeah, very much so. I mean, as radio fans ourselves, I think we as we can relate to being a listener. And, you know, you never know the thing that that host that you like says what you're big on Levitard these days. You never know the little moment that's just going to delight you.

Yeah, right.

And it's cool to know that that's getting created for Listener Julie.

Yeah, thank you, Julie.

Julie says, TVTL makes me laugh out loud, cheers me up when I am sad, and makes me feel less alone when I am lonely. I look forward to attending my first live event once things return to the new normal. Yes, Julie. We will definitely be having some live. Try to stop us. We're going to go to literally every listener's house. Yeah, it's going to get weird. And stand in their living rooms and entertain them with an episode of the show. That is how much we want to get out and see all of you, the tens of listeners. We miss you. So thank you, Julie. We appreciate it. Maestro.

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready.

Go. You don't think we should have, like, for the TBTL-a-thon this year, we shouldn't have, like, TBTL snuggle parties, right?

Those are going to be After the free hug guy Those are really going to be one of the very latest things To come back online And for good reason Just throwing it out there

No bad ideas

TBTL 7 Minutes in Heaven TBTL Cuddle Puddle I want to apologize to donor Keith Stone For introing His dazzling donor message With the words that finally did Send away the last of our listeners TBTL Cuddle Puddle Keith is in Libertyville, Illinois We've been talking about this Right, because I was Mentioning that I had stayed In a Libertyville Or was it Bibertyville And I was thinking the one that I was in Might have been, you know what I think it is I think it might have been called Kendallville, Indiana Which could actually solve the mystery of Trying to figure out where I was And I was talking about that Pizza Hut in whatever town it was And I think Keith might have been chiming in on that But Keith is one of our dazzling donors today and he says I just love the show, it's part of my daily routine since last March I've taken up a new hobby, leather crafting it started with watching a lot of YouTube videos on leather craft, eventually I took the plunge and bought a starter kit and some leather fast forward to today and I've taught myself how to make small items like wallets tote bags and some other items and added many newer tools to the collection, it's a real treat to make stuff for friends and loved ones but I think I might want to take it to a new level so check me out on Instagram I'm at stonecraft underscore leather that's stonecraft one word underscore leather I don't have a logo would the TBTL10s like to help me sort of crowdsource a brand logo I'm not picky but it would need to incorporate a geometric shape that evokes stone or mountains or cliffs and the word stonecraft. If anybody is into the fine art of graphic design, by the way, Keith, graphic design is probably the leading job among TBTL listeners. We have a lot. Yeah, teachers and graphic designers. That's pretty much the demo. And now leather workers, leather crafters. Anyway, if anybody is into a fine art or graphic design, hit me up. I am totally willing to pay for the service. See, look at this, Andrew. That's what I'm talking about. Listener Keith is supporting the show. starting this new cool endeavor is now reaching out to the tens about designing the logo is going to remunerate that 10 it's all just it's a man just flowing like water this beautiful thing that

is the tbtl and tens relationship it's a microeconomy is what it is right there luke the question is will this logo be non-fungible did you see jack dorsey's Thank you.

The first tweet I think ever sent is now an NFT and went for two something million bucks. Oh, good. I guess the money went to charity. Anyway, Keith finishes up his message by saying, if not, no biggie, maybe Luke and Andrew can spitball a few ideas, which would be great podcast content since it would all be visual. I guess you've heard the show before, Keith. Stone craft. Let's see. it needs to have a geometric shape that evokes a stone or mountains or cliffs and the word stonecraft.

See, my problem is I had an image in my head, but it didn't incorporate any of the things Keith wanted, so I don't think this is super helpful, but I like the idea. Of course, I think I'm thinking of a steelworker or a mason, but that's okay. You can change your career slash lifestyle based on the logo, I think, if you're committed enough, because I like the idea of like a kind of like a leather-clad, like, okay. So it's like a man who's standing feet apart with like a leather apron on, holding two tools, one tool in each hand, and is wearing like a – I think I'm describing a welder. I think you're describing the logo of every brewery in Portland. Yes, that's probably right. I think that is right. I'll tell you what. I am actually on Keith's Instagram right now. And, again, it is stonecraft underscore leather. And these are beautiful photos. No joke. I'm not just saying this. Not only are the products really nice, but the photos that Keith or whoever has taken are really beautiful photos. And the latest one is a photo that is really up my alley, which is it's like a very simple photo where some leather crafting tools are laid out on a like a workbench. I don't know what we call her, like a drafting table type of thing. The shot is directly overhead, so it's kind of got that Wes Anderson-y kind of layout with a leather belt through the middle of it. And that looks kind of iconic. I think there's something – again, it doesn't have the rock imagery, but there's something about that that really draws me in. I'm wondering if you could play around with that.

What about – because we're trying to do the intersection of leather and stone. This is a little bit biblical But what about like a leather slingshot With a stone in it Wasn't that what David used to kill Goliath I don't know who Goliath is in this Goliath in this case is that place in the mall Where you buy leather coats Yeah, big leather What was that place called? I swear to God, that same place Was it like Oh man, come on brain, you can do it

I don't think that I would know I don't know exactly what you're referencing

There was a national, like, I know that it was a national chain. I think it was in most malls where they just had all manner of leather coats and things. And now it was not to be confused with a place where you could get the leather coat that looked like an eight ball, like as in the eight ball from a billiards game. That was in the store that usually sold a lot of cross colors, a lot of that sort of gear. That would be more like a different store. But there was a specific – and I remember the smell of it to this day.

Anyway, if that's we're going to call that big leather Wilson's Wilson's suede and leather and I didn't know that. I'm just looking it up. They went out of business. This is in the Star Tribune. Speaking of Minnesota, August 14th, 2008, Wilson's leather going out of business. The chain's 100 remaining mall based stores will close by October.

Wilson's suede and leather like they just wanted to make sure they also, you know, they also have suede. But if that's the big Well they're gone now But anyway point is I don't know I'm thinking leather I'm thinking stone Or just a picture of a stone crab Which I know is not even anything that Keith does But I mean you know people think stone crab, stone craft Maybe it'll just kind of make the leap

Do you have anything that says like Daddy likes leather? Hello and welcome to Top Story.

Hat tip to listener Lily in San Jose for passing this along. William Shatner is turning 90, which, Andrew, we've been kind of talking a lot on the show of late about how unpleasant we find his personality to be on Twitter. Because he was unnecessarily We think being kind of rude to Friend of the show, Andrea Seabrook When she simply asked him if he wanted to be on A live stream with her He took time out of his day to Not just say no thanks, but then just like to kind of Criticize her and then to Act like she's not a real journalist, etc, etc Then to claim that she was cyberbullying him Because many people, including his own followers Were saying, dude, that was kind of rude what you did

I went from not Caring about this guy and mostly thinking he was just kind of a cheese ball to like I started reading this article I'll be honest with you I didn't get to the end of it because my eyes started boiling in my head my hatred for his behavior it has reached new heights i i don't think it's repairable my relationship with bill shatner

i will say this though i didn't realize dude was 90 90 is not young and it doesn't mean he's allowed to be rude to people but think about all the shit that happens when you're 90 that we do just kind of go well they're 90 you know like again i don't i don't like that he's on twitter generally just being a pompous ass but there's something about knowing that he's only 10 years from being 100 that's just kind of like i don't know at some point you just like he's surprisingly he appears to be surprisingly um kind of physically robust and although he's rude mentally robust for being

90 right like 90 is very old yeah i don't i don't take that as a um really as an excuse like who am i thinking of who's like one of the most who is like the tv show runner norman lear norman lear met him in a hallway one time at case really just very briefly he's talking to kim masters and she introduced me um yeah um and uh you know you just hear the best things about him and who was his best friend who just passed away recently um uh um Mel Brooks his son oh yes Mel Brooks you hear good things about him but also um his son was meathead uh oh my Rob Reiner Rob Reiner did he not oh Carl Reiner Carl Reiner did he not pass away recently maybe I'm maybe I'm making a huge mistake by saying that but either way oh yes Mel Brooks is very much alive yeah but Carl Reiner

that's a that's a fine oh yeah did I not I don't know I'm the one who just said Mel Brooks I I was I was misremembering if it was Carl Reiner or Mel Brooks who had passed because Carl Reiner and Mel Brooks were super tight. They would, like, eat dinner together every single night. Carl Reiner is the one, I believe, who has now passed away.

Oh, right, which is weird that I brought up the other showrunner whose name I've already forgotten because I can't hold— Norman Lear. Norman Lear. I can't hold all three of those guys' names in my head at the same time. So this is falling apart so damn quickly. Either way, I've never heard anything bad about any of those guys. They are from a different generation, but they still know how to, as far as I know, you know, treat people with respect. Like there is no need for Bill Shatner to go out of his way to punch. I mean, you know, punch down in this case when you look at like kind of cultural status and just and continue and spend a big chunk of his day just, you know, turning his followers against somebody. It made no sense. And I'm not giving him a pass.

And, you know, I'll add to that. You know who is still alive and was, at last check, just still an amazing human being? Dick Van Dyke. Dude is 95 years old. And I've told this story endlessly on the show, but when I was doing a radio story about this mission on Skid Row in L.A., I was there on, like, a Tuesday, and I just come around a corner, and Dick Van Dyke is just working in the kitchen.

Oh, yeah.

Just, like, doing his thing. There was no TV cameras. It was not an appearance. It's just down there. doing dishes and at that point guy would have been 80 something so you know whatever it was 84 or something dick van dyke was like yeah i'm gonna go down to skid row and do dishes in the kitchen of a mission on a tuesday morning so i don't see bill shatner doing that so you've brought me back to hating bill shatner i guess congratulations yes but um uh listener lily uh passed on this article about he's he's basically bill shatner is the brand ambassador which means paid spokesperson i think for this thing called story um uh story file and if i understand it right it's it's this it's not quite ai like they're calling it ai but it's it's not really ai uh it's basically they're going to tape interviews with Bill Shatner to create an interactive video program discussing his life. The AI component is how watchers can verbally ask the video program a question, and then the system will look through the footage for a video segment that supplies the best response. This is an article that Michael Kahn wrote in PC Magazine. That's what I'm referencing. It's not AI. They're not uploading William Shatner's brain into a computer and then someday it's going to become sentient. They're doing basically what I did with Pancake dad many thousands of years ago where they just had me pretend to make every possible kind of pancake shape and then you could type into the thing i want an elephant and i would make a pancake of an elephant or if you said i want a penis i would say uh let's not let's keep it clean they had a bunch of pre-recorded things for me to say when the person requested something

dirty take it a hat wobble i mean you were you were kind of celery man you were pancake dad

mm-hmm never miss a chance to drink my coffee and say mm-hmm um so anyway that's basically what's happening with this thing which is they're just gonna sit there and let William Shatner drone on endlessly and then I guess if you want to ask him a story in fact you know what would be great would be if one of the stories is the time that he got into with Andrea Seabrook on right yeah you'll be able to ask ai bill shatner why did you do that and then you know the program will bring back his thoughts and reminiscence i don't know if you can use reminiscence that way

but anyway that would be a good question to ask or a good question would you just be what's your

problem dude how about that is there an answer to that how about that um this is the dangerous game Dano that I'm playing today I woke up this morning I saw that William Shatner was doing this very Bill Shatner slash everybody else who's a bit thirsty online saying like thank you so much I'm paraphrasing here but he basically wrote like thank you so much for uh to all I was so pleasantly surprised by all the well wishes um for my 90th birthday let me see I'll get the exact uh text here well this is bill shatner i must say well i must say that the reaction to a 90th birthday is overwhelming don't you people have better things to do thank you to everyone for your well wishes and love um bill shatner's use of the uh emojis makes me really reconsider my liberal use of emojis because when the person is this kind of verified d-bag and they're doing it you're like Ooh, that's a gross feeling.

Anyway, you're Shatner, and I shouldn't even say this. I shouldn't say this because I don't want to criticize. I don't do impressions, and mine are terrible, and you're throwing yourself out there. But I do just want to point out that you're Shatner is kind of close to a George Takei. Am I saying his name right or is it Takei? It's Takei, right? I think it's Takei. I think it's Takei. My apologies if I got that wrong. But you're kind of – Oh, my. That's for my George Takei.

That's very good, Luke. I must say. Oh, my. Yeah. The reaction to a 90th birthday.

That's so good. I'm glad I brought it up.

Who knew? Who knew that was hiding in there?

Delightful.

Oh, my. That's like my impression.

We can spend more time together if you do that voice, Luke.

What if I do the whole fantasy baseball draft in the voice of George? Oh, my. Fernando Tatis Jr. He's an excellent baseball man. This is the best thing we've ever done on this show. Anyway, the dangerous game that I decided to play this morning was responding to William Shatner's tweet celebrating his 90th birth by saying, any chance you'd mark the occasion by coming on my podcast? I saw that and I was honestly nervous to do that because like I thought it would be a funny joke to the like 10 people that follow me on Twitter and remember that whole thing with Andrea Seabrook. But I was legit. I think it's already I don't think I'm out of the woods on this is I don't think it's ever shown up on William Shatner's radar. But I was a little bit worried that it's like I kind of wanted to get his attention, but I kind of didn't.

You know? Yeah. Well, you have more at stake here, because like right now I have no problem coming on the show and just saying that, like, I just think his behavior was inexcusable. And of course, a lot of people are just like, it's kind of charming. Somebody wrote in there something like it's kind of charming how you guys didn't know what an a-hole he is. He's famously an a-hole. So I guess this has always been the reputation. I'm not friends with Andrea. Maybe we are now. I should check in with her and ask her for friends after she's been on the show. But I didn't know her until until we met on the show a couple of weeks ago. So I didn't feel like, you know, like personally, like I need to, you know, like you probably felt a little bit closer to home because you guys are really old, close friends. But like for me, it's just like it's just inexcusable behavior. And if this is just the latest example and he's been doing it his whole life or or as a cranky old man and he's doing this all over the place, I don't think that makes it any better. And I'm just really turned off by him. Like, honestly, we always made fun of Ringo for just saying, like, peace and love, peace and love. No more autographs. If you send me stuff, it's going in the trash. Like, that was really tone deaf, but honestly, like, so dwarfed by comparison to the assholery of Shatner. And, like, you have a little bit more at stake because there is a chance that maybe he would be on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me Again. Or CBS wants you to do a piece on him. Like, that is very possible that CBS would want you to do a morning. peace on him so i understand you needing to be more careful but like on this podcast me speaking for myself what oh what shatner is not going to come on spotless like what have i got to lose

um i went from being like oh am i going to like and and then am i going to spend the day in some kind of thing with william shatner to wow i don't even get a response from him yeah right yeah you're like when from nervous to feeling slightly nagged by the experience here's a real question I don't think they would probably throw this one to me Because I'm not like their I'm not the highest ranking person over there At old CBS Sunday Morn Like for instance they're sending me to a ghost town tomorrow Literally a ghost town In the middle of nowhere where a guy's been living for a year That's the latest story I'm working on But I don't think they would offer me The Shatner gig if it came up I think that would be seen as probably a pretty high profile thing But if they did Should I do it Because I've only turned down One assignment One profile that they wanted me to do And it was Tim Allen Did we talk about this on the show or just off air I can't remember But I was just like nope sorry I don't want to do that because if I did a piece about Tim Allen I would want to write I would want the piece to be about what a D he is And that's not the kind of stories They do on that show D stands for dummy It stands for Donbass Right Nice parking Donbass

I forgot about Donbass

That was a note you found on your car right Yeah I have this like This is a really cool thing by the way I'd recommend For people to do as kind of a Gift or whatever Carrie made this I'm like reaching for it right now You can do these photo books They're like photo albums but instead of it being Like the thing that we used to have when we were kids You know the photo album where it's like Kind of that like clear Semi sticky Plastic you know and you're always like you know you got the pictures under there and whatever that's people know what a photo album looks like this is of course a much more modern version of it where they just print the photos in this book and it is the coolest freaking thing there's so many cute pictures of rudy in here this is so she made one uh that went uh it was may 2014 to may 2015 and And it's, like, just pictures of us and the boat and my nephews. And, again, it's just so much Rudy photography. But, anyway, I was leafing through it the other day. And the note that was on my Toyota 4Runner, the other way, Donbass, is in this book.

That's great.

Yeah. That's great. It's pretty awesome. And I have to say, this is a thing I really treasure, like, this photo. And I'm, like, not the kind of person that will take the time to put something like this together. For myself or for anyone else But I love that I have it now Like I will have this for the rest of my life Just because You know I wouldn't scroll through my phone I mean that's not true I do scroll through my phone often And look at like old pictures of the dog Or you know my family members etc But like having it just kind of in this book And just ready to go And I can just leaf through it I mean it's the reason people like photo albums But the other thing that's cool is these pictures Are the size of the page sometimes

Yeah it's beautiful and you can really Have you done one of these? No, I've seen them before, and it is tempting. And you know me. I like my visual arts, and so I can see playing around with it. Do you have to stop the show or the breaking news sounder? Uh-oh. It's Shatner. Am I getting Shat-canned? Hold on. Yes. I mean, maybe the buildup isn't worth it here. Maybe I should just tell you what I was going to say.

Okay. What do you want, breaking news or stop the show? Let's go breaking news.

Okay. Hey Luke, breaking news here You know, what's my favorite radio station here in town? AM 880, Kixi Music is cool now as it was then A tagline that Genevieve always disputes I signed up for their newsletter some time ago So once a week on Fridays I get the Kixi newsletter It is always the same thing Which is just like four visual promos using ridiculous stock footage for contests they have going on or what's coming up on, you know, Saturday's barbecue show. But I just got a midweek message from AM 880 Kixie. The subject line is, Aloha, Andrew. They're personalizing this. Now, do you think there's any chance that if I click on this, it is going to be a personalized note to me thanking me for being a dedicated listener? or is it? It's going to be telling you about a contest where you can win a trip to Hawaii. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. It's a Disney resort and spa in Hawaii. Aloha, Andrew. It was last week. So that wasn't really worth it. But to maybe make this pay off, I'm believing this now. Do you know aloha means hello and goodbye? Aloha. Aloha means hello and goodbye. Goodbye. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? Can I find it here in time? Yes. Click on it. Aloha means hello and goodbye. Goodbye. Today's the day where I talk over the drops. I like it. This is a real thing, though, that you might be interested in, Luke. Sorry that I'm Shatkanning your Shatner segment. But Genevieve and I are kind of tempted to buy some radio time on Kixi to either run ads for after these messages or just do after these messages, like air after these messages, our podcast about commercials, on the actual radio. Because we have a friend now who works in sales. In the diamond business? You have a friend in the radio business. Our friend that works in sales. Let the fun begin. For I believe it's Hubbard Communications, I believe is the parent company. based in the Twin Cities. Yeah, that's right. And the rates are affordable. I mean, within our budget. I don't remember off the top of my head. I could call it up. But within the – I mean, the only thing is if we wanted to do after these messages and turn it into a radio product as well, like I wouldn't – I'd probably want to do it more than once. And the question is, is it in the budget to just keep buying radio time On a radio station week in and week out And that probably starts to break the bank A little bit, but I do love the idea Of, because I always worry about Kixie's future, how long is it going to be around You know, in this day and age Can an AM radio station that's playing You know, songs from the 50s and early 60s Stick around very much longer And I would love to be on My favorite radio station Even if it's pay to play So anyway, that's something that we've been talking about

I would love to hear that If that happens You've got to obviously tell us and the listeners because I will tune in for that. The irony, Andrew, that you used to have a three-hour radio show called The Andrew Wells Show that you voluntarily walked away from so that years later you could possibly pay Kixi to let you have a radio show on their station is rich, my friend. It is rich. And I totally get it, by the way.

But you get it, though, right? 100%.

Right when you said that, I got jealous. And I started thinking, like, well, what kind of weird-ass shit could I do? I mean, if it's like, if it's $100 for a half hour,

you know, it's probably not that cheap. No, it's less than that for a half hour. I don't know if this is proprietary information and I don't want to get our friend in trouble but for a half hour now these aren't you know I'm looking at I'm not going to say two in the morning I'm not going to say more details than under a hundred but I will say there is a Saturday morning 6 a.m. slot that's under a hundred there is a Sunday morning anytime between 6 a.m. through 8 a.m. those are very affordable Monday at 930 a.m. that's the one thing is I would like a nighttime slot I just feel like if you're going to do it like there is more cachet there even if it was pre-taped it's not about waking up it's about like i have a strange listener

relationship with um the like 6 a.m on the weekend pay-to-play like investment show or you know mail enhancement or whatever you know thing is being hawked because when i would hear those would be and i'm not proud of this so please you know uh listeners uh particularly young listeners don't take don't take my behavior as any kind of um uh inspiration for your life but there would be times where maybe i would either be in the casino real late or have gone to my car to take a little nappy and woken up real early and i'd be like driving home like i have this kind of this memory of like just driving kind of numbly and listening to like these very chipper people talking about like a Japanese auto repair or you know I think it was like I think it's like Ken's Japanese auto is a one for a long time over on one of those am stations like but I kind of love those shows in a weird in the same way I love coast to coast so I think the most cachet is like early ass in the morning on like a Saturday but and I think

that's just something about me too because I don't I don't have those when I think of early morning like um cool kind of discovery radio like that i think of um i think of the what we talk about it a lot like the trade shows not the trade the trading shows the radio radio right exactly where people like call in and say well i got a snow i listened to new hampshire so it's often like well i got a snowblower she's seen better days um you know can i tell you something really quick. I don't think they have a tradeo situation.

in seattle or they didn't while i was growing up my only knowledge of tradio is because the howard stern show pranks it so well richard and sal oh my god it's so great dude i know you're not into pranking an elephant but like um but that's really what i don't so you actually heard tradio in new hampshire because i think it's a fascinating idea for a radio program i just

didn't grow up with it i didn't grow up with it or or you know i didn't listen to it if it was although i grew up in you know rural in a rural county outside of cleveland so maybe it was there and I didn't hear it. But when I was in New Hampshire, I do remember on some mornings, I kind of waking up and saying, hey, you want me to go pick up something from the bagel shop or what have you? And turning on the car and what were you hearing? But people trying to offload, you know, again, often snowmobiles or snowplows or sometimes just farm equipment or anything like that, an old washer and dryer.

Yeah, I actually really, I find that, and again, I like it better when it's local. Like if it's just Dave Ramsey doing financial advice or Dr. Laura or something I feel like I get to hear that anytime I like the really, I like the like obviously nervous Like elder care advisor Who's going to help you figure out how to You know, properly invest your parents money So that their later year, you know what I mean? Like just some very kind of niche thing that nobody cares about as a radio show But they're in there. They're at the station at 7 a.m. kind of doing their best impression of a talk radio show. But it's about the very specific topic. I love that stuff.

Ken, I think I found an archived edition. This isn't from New Hampshire. This is what I was going for. But this is unfortunately a Fox News station in. Well, I guess it's New York because it says they have a show called Wake Up Niagara. But they also have they were carrying Tradio, which I didn't realize that was actually the name of something. This is an archived episode from November of last year.

Just something we didn't want to do just a straight percentage off. And it's something that most people can get a couple on.

Pretty cool. Okay, what's the distance between throwing the ring and the bomb? Okay, this is not what we're looking for. I'm going to read you a little description while we move ahead. Call the show between 9.15 and 10 a.m. on weekdays. The show is 45 minutes long, Luke. What are they doing with the first 15 minutes? Oh, probably a news block, huh? Anyway, Tradio callers can sell up to three items for any price. There's no price limit to what you can sell. You can call the show every weekday, but you can't call more than once per show, Luke. Drop off, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Let's see here.

The man gets one day off.

One day off.

Yeah. And it won't get home to 9 o'clock tonight.

You can do that. You're self-employed. Take off when you want. Right? Okay. Yep, that's it. Okay, so I'll put the Dodge Durango out, 4,500, 255-9817. Thank you.

Have a good day. You got it. All right, the Dodge Durango, 255-9817. Good morning. This is Tradio.

Good morning, Lance and Mike. Good morning. What a beautiful voice. Joanne.

Hey, Joanne. I've never met Joanne, I don't think.

Joanne, this is the third time you've called in.

You have a very pleasant voice, Joanne. Well, thank you. Let's not objectify the callers.

I'm calling in for my, I got to say, the best neighbors a girl could ever have.

Oh, boy.

My neighbor, Jen in Maryland. And he has some things to sell today. All right. Okay, the first item is a half-ton Chainfall Union Manufacturing Company, New Britain, Connecticut, USA.

All right.

Now, that's one of those chains like you would take a motor, I guess, out of a car or battery.

Oh, okay. Okay. I don't know how much of this you want to hear, Luke. I could literally go the rest of the show with this. But no question I would listen to this. You understand why I love this, right?

Oh, my God, dude. I'm mesmerized. Yes.

I love it so much.

Absolutely mesmerized. It's also – I find it to be so pleasant, actually, to listen to. Yes. And yet it's – I mean, it's the least efficient way to buy or sell something. So the idea is that you are just listening like let's imagine you needed a specific item like you were like God I need to get that kind of hoist that can pull a motor out of you know you can pull the motor out of a car that's that I think that's what she was talking about that kind of chain you know that's that's on a kind of a small kind of crane type of deal. imagine that you needed that in in wherever this is in niagara new york you just have to hope that somebody calls in also selling one like it's basically the ross dress for less of buying things used you can't go in with any specific plans yeah yeah you just have to be open to all experiences and just listen and maybe you'll hear something oh i could use that okay

call them up because it's like really the internet is a much better way craigslist maybe even the little nickel or the want ads or what i mean there's a million better ways to find something if you need it used but i just find something i find it so unbelievably charming and pleasant

to listen to i absolutely love it as as entertainment yes and i do i guess you probably just it's like classified ads like you probably just pay to get i guess you just pay to call in maybe or do they take or if you sell it do they take a percentage probably not you probably i

don't think that yeah i think it's just a service and i think that the radio station probably does it for listeners and you know i don't know enough about it honestly so maybe there is a maybe they do take a percentage i mean it just seems like what i mean well how does that even work though like if the tradeo guys get a percentage of everything you of they sell do you have to like report back to them if somebody called you and like yeah that can't bought your lawnmower for $200 you got to call them be like hey guys here's your 20 bucks like that system would be so it seems unenforceable I went at first I thought she said she'd that her neighbor was selling a chainsaw which reminded me by the way that my nephews Jack and Abe you give him a chainsaw for their birthday they both got they bought chainsaws what they bought chainsaws with their Christmas money they are both and they freaking wield these chainsaws Andrew I'm gonna send you a video um of these guys i gotta go back a ways of boy i've lived many a lifetime in the last three months but um uh these guys uh they they're obsessed with chainsaws because they live in the woods in willard washington in a yurt and they uh their dad you know is a real kind of mountain man he's a woodworker and uh and he's got a chainsaw like a huge one that he uses for felling trees wait wait don't fell me and so anyway they really wanted chainsaws and they they got Christmas money and they saved it up and they went and they bought chainsaws and they just have these and they just fired them up for me and I was like is the safety on old Betsy they're like what's going on and they're like yeah it's fine and I want to say that I can't find this video right this moment but I want to send it to you because you will just die because it's just, it's quite a surprising sight to see two pretty small children just with working steel chainsaws. By the way, steel, made in America for America, by America, with America, for America.

Real children, steel children is the show title. That is amazing. I didn't, my dad had a chainsaw when I was growing up. I think oh gosh what was the brand it wasn't Kubota I don't think it may maybe it was I can still picture it I can still picture the plastic carrying case with the protective sleeve over the business end and I just remember that like that was like you do not you don't even look at my parents were really protective and I grew up you know like in kind of rough and tumble country but my dad was like very protective of us not touching that stuff and then when I was finally an adult I I think I inherited a small chainsaw from my neighbor somehow, but it was very small. It was probably the size of the one your nephews have. It was very small in my hands, but even still, I remember being very – because I had never held a chainsaw until I was like 29 years old, I was very hesitant around it.

I am with you, by the way, and there may have been some ways – I almost CC'd Sarah Van Dusseldorp on this, Andrew, which would have been quite confusing to her. Are you suggesting this as a TVTL gift this year Like in there may have been Some ways that your parents may have been Tetch overprotective of you but I Don't think the chainsaw department they were being Overprotective I this is a Like I used one my neighbor Rich up in Bellingham once let me Borrow his chainsaw because we were taking These like kind of ornamental Trees down um in the yard the problem was there were these trees i probably talked about this many years ago but the problem is the deer really like there's a certain kind of like uh of tree that you'll see all over the northwest um that people will plant as kind of a barrier like as you know some some visual barrier between them and a busy street or maybe their neighbors and it's always i forget the exact name of the tree but it's always the same tree because um the tree grows fast and is hardy and grows wide it is somehow like uh you know ideal for for just you know what it's been bred to do this kind of thing or cross-pollinated or whatever the problem is deer also love eating it and the deer will eat all of the parts of this tree that they can reach and then the top part They can't reach so you just end up with a bunch of Trees that look like phalluses Okay I call them penis Trees because and you'll just start looking for these Now you'll see them more when you get out in the Suburbs and stuff but anyway we were Taking these down because we didn't need to have 12 penis sculptures in our yard and I needed to use a chainsaw I was using Rich's chainsaw and I was first of all I've never felt more manly but I was also pretty nervous to be wielding that thing and then meanwhile these children, this is not going to pay off but I'm going to do it anyway, this is the sound of my nephews Jack and Abe, come on work with me computer this is the sound of my nephews sorry, here we go, take a listen You got it? Yep. Fixing the choke. This is Jack.

I love that sound.

And now little Abe is trying to get his started, and he's getting frustrated because this is taking a little bit longer. Are they the same chainsaw? Yeah. Yeah.

I know.

Mine's not going to bud. Okay. Tell that saw who's boss.

That's Jack saying tell that saw who's boss.

I'll start it for you.

By the way, this kid is eight who's doing this chainsaw right now. I'll start it for more for you. No, I got it. Oh, no. Oh. I was trying to just play that off of my email program just so everybody knows Abe did successfully get his chainsaw

oh the video doesn't end there it's just there was some buffering

I don't know yeah it just stopped playing for some reason

but anyway that's pretty great though I love that sound you sent me the video it's downloading now I'll try to see if I can grab a screen grab from it for the show picture today is that something oh they would love it

Jack is a little aspiring podcast I told you that years ago, he would get in trouble because he would sneakily be watching Seth Meyers on the iPad. And my sister was like, that's a little grown up, you know, when he was probably like seven or something. What an interesting pick, too.

Like, Seth Meyers is such a sleeper in the late night game, I feel like. I enjoy him a lot.

Yeah.

But, like, what an interesting thing for an eight-year-old.

Jack is a really bright kid. And like when we were watching the Mandalorian here a couple of weeks ago, I said I was shocked that Amy Sedaris has as big of a role in the Mandalorian as she does. Oh, yeah. Right. And she's great. Of course, she's Amy Sedaris. And I go, oh, my God, that's Amy Sedaris. And Jack goes, David Sedaris, his sister. That's great. I know. That's awesome. Anyway, OK, well, we are not going to get to our weird science and animal facts, but I am committed to doing this before the week is done, Andrew, because there's some really great ones on here. And maybe between I don't want to promise anything, but we kind of know people who know this Jensen Karp guy who found the shrimp claws in his cinnamon toast crunch. So maybe by tomorrow there's a chance we can actually dial him up and hear about his experience or otherwise we'll just kind of see where things are. He's been going back and forth with the General Mills company online. So we'll we'll do both of those things tomorrow.

Here I go once again with the email every week. I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

All right. Any emails or emails? I referred a little bit to an email that was sent in at the top of the show from a listener who was asking us to please not play that ice cream sound anymore. Yeah, I actually, and since you mentioned that. Were you going to read that one?

I didn't have that ready to read because I just didn't feel the need to read it. But you can read it if you have it in front of you. I also, though, I was going to say I see some other people, also somebody else, just like since we've been talking, posted something similar on Slack. Anyone else cringe, Leah says, when they play the recording of the guy tasting ice cream and just compulsively smacking his lips together. It's definitely funny. But an angry emoji, a crying emoji, and a laughing tear emoji. And then somebody else wrote, did, period, not, period, like, period, that, period. So a lot of negative feelings.

Well, I have to admit, that tape cracks me up. But I also find it, I personally find it gross. And I'm not, you know, I don't have misophonia or whatever. So listener Maria Alicia is checking in. And first of all, I guess that maybe you or Sarah or Emily, somebody had managed to, they had had some problem with the recycling bin.

The recycling bin had broken. Alicia's kiddo loved it, but it broke, so we were able to hook the family up with another one.

So she was saying, thanks for that. But then Maria Alicia said.

He says, also, as someone who has mild misophonia, I really need you to stop playing that ice cream smacking audio. If I go up to the dazzling donor level, will you agree to destroy it? JK, not JK.

I'm not exactly sure what we're talking about here. We're not talking about this tape. Where I've cut out all of the talking. Where I've cut out all of the talking. It's only the bad part. And it's only the bad part. I did this while you were talking there.

Oof. Oh, no.

That's not what people are talking about.

listeners and donors donate now or else this is all of tomorrow's show okay I'll play a chainsaw starting sound over that

alright did you have any sorry Alicia oh yeah sorry everybody I shouldn't have done that I'm closing this little file that I just created to torture you that's no fair I'll close that one and then I saw that speaking of things coming in during the show literally this voicemail just came in um in the past five minutes or so i have not listened yet but i saw that it's from a friend

of ours hey guys it's chris well i just want to tell you you've done it again you rascals you've done it again uh i can't say the word body i have to say body and now i can no longer say microwave can't say it's a microwave and it comes up in conversation uh tell my wife i'm just gonna heat this up in the microwave she looks at me like i'm crazy whenever i hear it now when i hear the old way it sounds wrong to me so congrats congrats you think kate hates us by the way have you ever

met kate yeah definitely yeah i mean i mean really kind of a ruining her life that that couple kate shaw and chris hayes have an extremely full life i would imagine She's a lawyer She's a Supreme Court scholar And a media personality in her own right Chris obviously does all the stuff he does They've got a bunch of kids Life is complicated And to the degree that even one second Of Chris's time That could be dedicated towards that family Is spent Listening to this crapola Not just listening

But then going around his day Correcting people and saying And like that That's the stuff that most really just drive me crazy, I'm assuming, but I don't know. Yeah, anyway. Can I read a couple of emails? Shorty's here for you, Luke. Yes, please. How are we doing on time, by the way? You're the one who's surrounded by clocks. We're okay. I do. We're at 77 minutes and 36 seconds. That's not too bad. So you were talking yesterday. We've really gotten into fob talk on this show. I mean, first we were talking about the fobs that you needed to make duplicates of so you could get into your apartment building. Then yesterday we're talking about car fobs, the buttons that you click to lock. I tried to test that, by the way, yesterday. Oh, you held the fob up under your chin to try to extend the signal?

Well, no. Here was the problem. I was, I actually came out of the elevator at the floor where my car was. I wasn't far enough. I came out of the elevator area and I was close enough to the car that it just worked. What I really need to do is when I'm in like a huge parking lot, I need to stand at a point and try to click it where it's too far, right? You know what I mean? And then put it up against my jaw and see if that amplifies it. I wasn't able to really test it. Had I stood in that parking garage yesterday and hit the clicker and the lights wouldn't have flashed, then I would have put it up to my chin to see if it would have had a different effect.

Yes. And I know kind of what the range is on mine, because like I say, I keep on doing that thing where I lock the car, I chirp it, and then I walk away and then I don't remember if I chirp it or not. So I start walking back towards the car and I'm just constantly hitting the button until I hear the horn beep. But that is actually the point of James's email, because yesterday you were talking about how you hit your fob button once and your car makes a very gentle little beep. And then you hit it a second time and then it makes a louder noise. Is that correct? before i move on okay well james says and by the way this is i believe true because this is exactly how my car works only the sounds are different the first press of the button just locks the car the second press that honks the horn is indicating that the alarm is activated so you can just lock it with one press or lock it and arm the alarm two presses that is a hundred percent true with my car if i click it once there's no noise other than the mechanical sound of the you know locks engaging. If I hit it a second time, that's where I get that beautiful little horn beep.

Beep! Wow. Okay, well that is really useful information because I thought it just was all the same thing, but of course I do want, you know, to have the alarm active, being you know, in a place in Portland where there are car break-ins. Although that's one of the weird things not weird things, but that's I say on this show all the time that it's really expensive to be poor, and you know what I noticed?

Just when I was able to start driving cars that were a little bit newer, people stopped breaking into my car. Now, one time somebody did open, like, a space car because I just literally left it unlocked in the alley behind my house in Seattle. Somebody did open the door and, like, go through all the stuff. But that was kind of on me because I had not locked the car.

They take anything? Because they always say that that's kind of a good way to keep your car from getting smashed if you have to park in a sketchy area. Yeah, just leave it unlocked and, you know, just make sure that there's nothing in there that you don't want. And that way, at least nobody's going to break your window.

I know that that's a strategy, but what I found was, and this is privilege. And again, this is where it's like when I had when I was driving stone cold beaters, my cars were constantly getting broken into constantly. and then as soon as i got a bit of a newer car that had an alarm on it and also like you know that kind of stereo that like you just i don't think it even works if you take it out of the car it's a factory stereo or whatever nobody ever broke to this day nobody's ever broken my window and i think it's because you know the people that are going to break into cars you know when you know what car got broken into andrew my forerunner that night that we were strategizing that's an old car that's a 20 plus year old car and what did the person do they broke the back little window that little triangle window and reached in and got into the car but it's just it's one of those things where it if you have the resources to have a car that's on the newer side it seems in my experience like it's less likely to get messed with because the people doing the smash and grabs just know that the alarm is going to start shrieking they're going to get they're not going to have much time to work i mean maybe if you left a purse sitting on the passenger seat they might just go screw it but like even in this neighborhood i there are a lot of cars i mean that are just bashed in like the back windows are bashed in and stuff in my immediate

neighborhood and they're always slightly older cars i hate that feeling of seeing the whether because it's happened to me several times in my life or if you just like see um where a car had been and there's a bunch of crumpled glass on the ground and you just know this is such a bad feeling um also when i okay i i do have another email i want to read here but i was going to say when i was younger i remember when it was less common for all cars to have car alarms you could buy a little red flashing light that you could stick to your like dashboard like by your control i remember like in the 90s really wanting one of those so it looked like my minivan do you remember

protected by viper stand back oh yeah talk to you yes that was the real you know who who like i don't know if he invented it but who owned that company that's how they made all their money is that dude daryl isa oh it's like real hard right right california politician that like was a big

part of the recall of gray davis right also later on like he was like the number one kind of um what's the word when you're really going after a politician he was like constantly leading the the king the kind of congressional investigations against obama right he was his number one goal in life was to find some dirt on Obama and get him impeached. Yeah, he's a really pernicious. Good guy.

Yeah, really good dude. But he and Bill Shatner are working on a few projects together. But he made his money with Protected by Viper, Stand Back. Really? And I think he might even be the voice. Whoa. I think that might literally be his voice that says Protected by Viper, Stand Back. Wow. Which was, for our younger listeners, it was an early car alarm system where if you

got too close to the car, it would literally say that out loud. I mean, we should just – I have some video I need to play here. Protected by Viper Commercial. Let's just do this. Here. I think I found it right here. Wow. I forgot about this. Sexy sack. Yes, and it's exactly what you think. You see a close-up of a car door opening just on the ground, and a couple of high-heeled shoes are stepping – well, a couple of feet in high-heeled shoes are stepping out. So now a 90s businesswoman is walking away from her car. There is a prowler who's hiding behind another car and is ready to break into her vehicle. He's got a Slim Jim. There's a snake. Viper No one dares come close There is literally a virtual snake

Protecting the car Protected by Viper It is The internet is telling me That that is actually Daryl Issa Who says protected by Viper Stand back Who at one point Was the chair of the House Committee On Oversight and Government Reform What A world To quote a friend of mine

Dazzling deet Luke Here at the end of a Tuesday program You might remember earlier in the week, which I guess would just be. yesterday so i don't think that's possible maybe it was late last week we were talking about jack palance possibly jack palance who knows um and doing our own imitations of him uh and i tried to do a scene in 1989's batman where i remember him in a very exaggerated way talking to the man who will become the joker and saying you are my number one guy and i did it like that and then We listened to the real tape, and it wasn't as exaggerated as I remembered. Let's take a listen.

It's an important job I need. Someone I can trust. You are my number one guy.

So that wasn't how I did my impression. I was like, I thought it was way breathier and exaggerated than that. I have gotten notes from a lot of listeners, all of whom I love, for saying that I was right in a way. This is from listener Elizabeth, who says, Regarding your memory of Jack Palance's or Palance's line of you're my number one guy, I think the exaggerated version that you're remembering is later in the movie when Jack Nicholson's Joker character says it later in the film. He says it to his underling guy. I believe that guy's name is Bob, by the way. And he's mocking how his former boss Jack Palance had said it to him. It's something that has lived in my head for decades as well. So I was remembering the callback to this where the Joker says that to Bob. Let's take a listen. Go down to the globe, follow that reporter Knox, take your camera, see what he knows about this Batman. And Bob, remember, you are my number one guy. so if the lip smacking didn't disturb anybody i leave you with that

um i am so fascinated at jack palance's or palance at his whole character choice because he's kind of got a pacino-esque quality or even a jack nicholson-esque quality where Every character he ever plays Is just that guy right Like he doesn't have he's not Like somebody who Fits Into the role like disappears into the Character and then you're just like oh my God that was Jack Palance like He's just any character that You like hey would you like to play Santa Hey Timmy What would you Like for Christmas That was more Fire Marshal Bill than Jack plants but you get the idea like and i wonder where he came up with that like i wonder how that or it's a christopher walken maybe is even a better example of just somebody who kind of decided whether consciously or subconsciously that they were just gonna like deliver lines in

a weird ass way and then somebody was like can we include nicholson in the conversation i mean Maybe slightly less exaggerated Maybe he's got a little bit more range But kind of very similar right

Absolutely yeah I think I mentioned him

Oh okay yeah you were clumping him together I wasn't sure if I wasn't following

But yeah like that kind of thing where you're just And then it becomes your shtick And then people just hire you And then you get to just be any movie that you're in You just jack plants your way through it And they're like that's what you're Christopher Walken And by the way I like Christopher Walken In movies But that's just an interesting thing Like I wonder how Jack Palance came up with Like I'm going to be the guy Who like inhales a lot Weirdly while Delivering lines that's going to be

My angle right right right Can we go out by the way with Weapon of Choice By Fatboy Slim now that I'm thinking of Yes we can try to stop us That's my favorite thing but before we do that I'm afraid I have more tape for you Luke and I'm Just really going to grind this show Into the dirt today where

everybody is happy especially you that it's over a call from kate shaw explaining just just came in she hates it that who make her husband say microwave now that would actually be a good get

that would be a great tbtl interview as a matter of fact like how much have we ruined your life

that could be a new actually you know what honestly that's that really could be a segment where we interview yes the the the 11s who don't listen to the show about their experience being Living a life with someone who really Like listens to a lot of the show And we don't have to necessarily start with Kate Who has her hands full We could just talk to anybody who is an 11 And has thoughts It's sort of a version of Mary The TBTL virgin

Right, our non-listener Our newsletter reader Who does not listen to the show I saw her piping up on the Slack today Okay, here's what I'm going to leave you with today

I do think we should do that. Maybe, folks, if you have an 11 in your life who you think would be an interesting person to talk to about how they're long-suffering dealing with this show, get at me, Andrew, at tbtl.net. But for some reason, I don't know why, because I don't watch a lot of wrestling videos, I am being suggested by YouTube a video. The headline is, Roddy Piper interrupts an interview with Danny DeVito, February 18th, 1985. Wow, okay. You got Mean Gene interviewing Danny DeVito backstage somewhere. I'm going to cut into this.

Actually, he's doing a film with me now called The Wise Guys. I heard about that. And we're shooting here.

Yes. So that's Mean Gene Okerlund. He's interviewing Danny DeVito. Yes. And I believe Rowdy Piper is going to interrupt.

Wait, that was Danny DeVito's voice?

Yes. This is Danny DeVito's voice here. Take a look.

Wow. I mean, it was incredible.

Do you think we could ever get the captain maybe a job as a hack, running a cab?

Actually, he's doing a film with me now called The Wise Guys. I heard about that. With Joe Piscopo, and we're shooting here in Manhattan.

And the various other places around the country.

And in Jersey. He's a natural actor, Lou. It's incredible.

Danny, your thoughts just in general on professional wrestling. You've got to be, I guess, this is your first outing. I don't know if you've been to a professional.

No, no, I've never been before, but I'm coming again. I mean, it's incredible. You really had a great time. Were you shocked at all? Wait a minute now.

I don't know if I want to conduct this interview or not with you. Piper, you'll take a microphone and dress up if you're going to come on.

Okay, now we now see we're in a locker room, and Roddy Piper has come out wearing nothing but a towel.

I can do exactly what I want to do. The only way this guy holds his title. No, wonderful, wonderful, the planes. The only way this guy holds his title is he has this stupid guy with some ridiculous haircut. All of a sudden all these people are flooding the ring If you ain't got enough guts to fight me One on one mister then take a hike And leave the title with me if you want to

So he's not talking to Danny DeVito He's got beef with somebody And I gotta be honest with you I didn't understand The first 100 words he said Welcome to Piper's Pit bro This is his deal

Can I tell you one other quick thing Before we get out of here Sorry that I played that Today is the day where I'm gonna dazzle you with deets About right wing politicians

OK, good. That could be a segment on the show. We get 11s on the show to give us dazzling details about right wing politicians.

You know, my favorite news outlet is Mel magazine. Oh, yeah. They just in fact, one of these days I want to just kind of relay this amazing article I read in Mel magazine today that was an interview with. This is not even the thing I'm about to tell you about right wing politics, but there were, you know, The famously Orson Welles did a lot of ads that were kind of he was always broke, I guess. And so he was always being hired to do these ads, which he always felt was a little beneath him. And so that's he did one for Snow Peas. It's kind of famous. And then he did one for this particular like champagne. And the guy and he was so drunk in some of the ads that he couldn't get through them. They're like outtakes that were kind of famous. Anyway, the guy who was the assistant director of those ads did the kind of an oral history of them, which is incredible.

By the way, I have a question for you. I always assumed that the Schitt's Creek Moira Rose drunken wine commercial was, did we talk about this on the show? I've always kind of assumed that that is a kind of an homage to those Orson Welles drunken commercials. Do you think that there's some truth there?

well you know like having just watched the orson wells ones um i don't know because it's they're

so different like he's sitting at a table visually they're different but her enunciation the way she is in the lee of a picturesque ridge the way i mean it starts off with her not sounding quite as drunk but like kind of getting more and more sloppy because i had been watching those orson wells ones recently as well for paul my song yes and i just find it hard to believe that you could be totally right people weren't like i mean just a tiny bit not that it's like that's the that's

the joke like you don't write otherwise come taste the difference good fruit can make in your wine you'll remember the experience and you'll remember the name herb ervlinger bird hernkeif Irv Hermlinger

How about this? I'm going to play the real one

I like to cast a party the way I cast a play with very special people and the champagne must be equally special Paul Masson, a premium California champagne of impeccable taste Paul Masson wines taste so good because they're made with such care Paul Masson himself said it nearly a century ago we will sell no wine Thank you. Before it's time.

This is the weirdest catch. We will sell no wine before it's time. So that was him when he's doing OK. This was when he showed up. He had apparently been shooting. We're just doing this now. He'd apparently been shooting something in Las Vegas and had probably gotten pretty drunk there. And then they drove him from Las Vegas out to L.A. where he was supposed to shoot this another one of these Paul Messon commercials. And he was so drunk that this guy who does the oral history with Mel magazine said, I knew he couldn't actually do the commercial, but we needed to have him sit and try for insurance purposes. So like basically If Orson Welles shows up And he's not able to complete his duties The insurance will pay that For like the crew and the other actors And everything associated with This day of shooting in a mansion In LA will then be covered By insurance but only if you Have proof that it's like a car Accident happening essentially right Except the car accident is Orson Welles being Whasted when he shows up So this is not going to really work as audio but what's amazing about this uh is that orson wells is sitting at this table and there are these two actors like very la actors it's like a very handsome man a very beautiful woman they're supposed to be in this commercial with him they are not drunk they're probably like holy shit we just booked a commercial and orson wells is in it and they have to try to do their thing they don't have any lines but they're just like pouring like kind of admiring the wine and pouring it and to watch them to watch the gears turn in their heads about what are we supposed to do as Orson Welles has no idea what planet he's on take a look at this or listen to this

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the guy's just holding the cork waiting for Orson Welles to do something

he doesn't do anything no it's a sorry

Orson was like, he doesn't do anything? He thought that the actor had to say a line or something?

Ah, the French champagne has always been celebrated for its excellence. There is a California champagne by Paul Masson, inspired by that same French excellence. It's fermented in a bottle and like the best French champagne, it's vintage dated. so Paul Masson here's the last one

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the French champagne has always been celebrated for its excellence there is a California champagne by Paul Masson

I love how he starts that one

and that's why I just I feel like Moira is due I'm sorry what's the name of the actor Moira Rose why am I doing this to myself But I just sort of feel like it's more subtle But in the lead Like she's kind of got this I think you're right Catherine O'Hara Catherine That's what we're trying to think of

Anyway Let me just This is just I'm going to once again be a pitch for Mel Magazine The official magazine of Harry's Razors The most viewed story The long sweaty history of working out The number two story I was the man at the clapper board For Orson Welles' legendary drunk wine commercials Number three A salute to We don't need another hero Thunderdome Tina Turner's Forgotten Mad Max Anthem you really couldn't you couldn't nail old LB's areas of interest much more than this thing does pretty dialed in

anyway all right I feel like I had 17 more things to say to you but I've forgotten them and honestly we need to we should probably just go on otherwise I'm just going to keep playing everything that YouTube recommends and that's not

if we don't because if we don't stop the show and end the show then we can't begin our conversation about fantasy baseball offline we can't begin the next four hours of our life together unless we end this two hours. So that's what we're going to do. Thanks for listening, everybody. We'll be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio for you. Please join us for that. Until then, stay safe, enjoy your Tuesday, and please remember, no mountain too tall.

And good luck to all.

We'll be right back.

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