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#3416 Nothing Gold Can Sag
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3416 Nothing Gold Can Sag

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

May 5, 2021 | 01:08:58 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke and Andrew are charmed by a Will Smith Instagram post, until Andrew ruins it with more information. Plus, they FINALLY celebrate the 50 year and 2 day anniversary of NPR.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:56 | Speaker 1:

I'm watching Seinfeld and I'm like, he does great of those. How can I do those if I'm going to be a comedian or a writer? I don't even know how to write. Or a storyteller. I don't even know how to do stories that funny. Only there's no white one. Seinfeld, he does really good jokes and I can't do that much jokes because nobody laughs at me. and I need someone to tweet me. We need to copy him, so you need to print it off so I can do each word at a time. And I need to memorize that so I can do each word at a time. He does great of those. How can I do those if I'm going to be a comedian or a writer? I don't even know how to write.

00:00:57 - 00:01:06 | Speaker 3:

TV-TL I love these guys, they make funny with their mouths

00:01:06 - 00:01:24 | Speaker 2:

Well I'll tell you one thing, I'm not eating the Taco John's, that's spicy stuff I think the awkward silence are the best bits And especially those kind of related to the obvious sexual tension between Luke and Andrew And I think that's a really important thing that you need to keep in the show

00:01:24 - 00:01:27 | Speaker 5:

If there's a better use for the internet, I haven't found it

00:01:27 - 00:02:06 | Speaker 4:

all right hello good morning and welcome to a wednesday edition of tbtl this whole conversation bothers me the show that just might be too beautiful to live my name is luke burbank i am your host that's a tuna bro coming to you once again from ontario oregon in the weed district But, look, I'm not going to sugarcoat it, okay? On yesterday's show, we basically didn't get to any of the topics that we had promoted.

00:02:06 - 00:02:08 | Speaker 5:

But that doesn't stop a foamer.

00:02:08 - 00:02:29 | Speaker 4:

So the plan today, here on episode 3416... Let the fun begin. Is to just go ahead and do those topics, which are now even moldier, including celebrating the 50th year and two day anniversary of the founding of NPR.

00:02:29 - 00:02:31 | Speaker 1:

Is this a thing people care about?

00:02:32 - 00:02:32 | Unknown:

No.

00:02:33 - 00:02:44 | Speaker 3:

And also the fact that Yahoo and AOL have been acquired. Social engineering can take place in person, on email, on the phone or over the Internet.

00:02:44 - 00:04:00 | Speaker 4:

There is something just delightfully out of touch about doing a story about the acquisition of AOL and Yahoo. Two things that are already not in the zeitgeist and then doing that story two days after you meant to do it. There's just something very TBTL about that. Oh, speaking of things that are very TBTL, we are also going to, because we forgot to do this yesterday as well, we are also going to conduct the TBTL Drops of Stupider, the Deuce, round two. We are now narrowing down the field of the possibly the greatest moments in TBTL history, so we will do that today. And maybe some emails and V-mails, time permitting. We'll do all that with the help of this guy who's, well, I don't know. Has he been secretly studying my dinner reservations for tonight here in Ontario? Hey, where's the freaking gabagoo? I know that he has some special plans to celebrate Cinco de Luco in his own inimitable way. I might have tacos when I go home. I'm not quite sure yet. He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke.

00:04:00 - 00:04:22 | Speaker 5:

Can you believe, not to just do what every other podcast is doing, but can you believe that it has been 50 years and two days since NPR first hit the airwaves? I cannot believe it. It's crazy. I know people are doing this all over the podverse today, but still, though, you've got to mark the occasion. Yeah.

00:04:23 - 00:04:38 | Speaker 4:

It's like Blink, and it's two days after the 50th anniversary of the founding of National Public Radio. it's just crazy it's like you just you get busy living your life you're just doing just going about your business and you just look up and it's like oh my god it's two days after the 50th

00:04:38 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 5:

anniversary of the founding of npr it feels like yesterday that we were celebrating the 50 years in one day anniversary of npr and then like you say you blink and here you are i know that we really is a flat circle we have a lot to get to today and i'm sorry that i'm going to just make this all about me at the top of the show, but...

00:05:00 - 00:05:16 | Speaker 1:

I just had a pretty big revelation that I think I committed campaign fraud. Uh-oh. Did you get the text that I sent you a little bit ago, like maybe a half hour ago?

00:05:17 - 00:05:24 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. From like when you were running for like a school office or something. Is that what that was? Yes.

00:05:24 - 00:05:55 | Speaker 1:

I have, well, before I received this photo from my dad via text message, I had zero memory of ever running for any kind of school office. Like, why would I? But my dad, out of the blue, I don't know where he got this thing. He must be cleaning out the attic or something. He sent me a poster that was made. He's clocking it at like 1987, which makes sense. And it is my campaign poster with a dorky photo, like a dorky school photo. of me, Andrew. Dude, it's the epitome of

00:05:55 - 00:06:44 | Speaker 2:

dorkiness. Like, it's fine. Adorable. It is adorkable. Adorkable, indeed. No, I love this. So, I have to be honest. When you sent this to me, I was in the middle of a kind of a mad scramble. A few different things going on here. And, you know, I got a lot of irons in the fire in Ontario. Yeah. Could be buying into Top Crop. Yeah, a lot of weed to smoke. A lot of bongs to rip. You know, it's funny, if you just reverse those, if you just reverse the order of the words in that place, it would just be a place that It sells kind of sort of suggestive shirts for ladies. It would just be called Crop Top. Crop Top. Top, Crop Top. But no, so I was kind of busy, and I didn't fully take in what this photo that you had sent me, but it is amazingly cute. I love this so much. Introducing an outstanding candidate for student council vice president, Andy Walsh.

00:06:44 - 00:08:35 | Speaker 1:

The only, because my dad sent me this, and I looked at it really quickly. I was also in the middle of things. You know, Luke, you're not the only one who's got a lot going on. Who lives near various dispensaries. Right. But at first I thought it just said president. And I was like, I do not remember running for school president, although I do have a vague recollection of this poster and maybe making this poster. And clearly, if it still exists today, it must have, you know, hung around the house for a while, not literally hung on the wall. But, you know, it just must have sort of imprinted in the back of my brain because I do remember these colors. It's an orange and white poster. And the handwriting is impeccable. I can see my dad's handwriting. My guess is my dad wrote out this stuff in pencil, and then I inked over it. My dad has really good handwriting. But it says, Liverpool School needs something new. Now it's up to you. It's so good. There's a quote in, like, italics, like, handwritten italics. In quotes, I would like to be your vice president in council for a better Liverpool school. Okay, that's fine. And my guess is a friend of mine must have been running for – or somebody who didn't actively bully me must have been running for president. Which you consider the friend. Right. Maybe – I had a couple of friends. It might have been Tim Cassada. I should run this by him. He's a listener, isn't he? I think he pops in every now and then because we were talking about our skateboards once. And he wrote it. He's like, yeah, you remember your skateboard. Right. But here's where things get – and we'll make this the show pick today, I think. Oh, my God. We have to. I'm so into this. But here's where things become problematic. There's like five bullet points of reasons why you should vote for Andy Walsh, vice president. Lifelong resident of Valley City. It is true. He knows your issues. My entire nine years there or whatever. Six years attending Liverpool School. Okay. Yeah. That's good. So I know the school.

00:08:35 - 00:08:38 | Speaker 2:

It only had three grades, but let's not focus on the negative.

00:08:38 - 00:08:49 | Speaker 1:

I'm not a carpet bagger. I'm not coming in from Oberlin. you know like um and then here's the problem big city oberlin values here in liverpool

00:08:49 - 00:09:09 | Speaker 2:

member of valley city youth league i don't even know what that is youth league always makes me a little nervous yeah what do you mean i mean you know reminds me of a crazy pre-war germany A crazy painter in Germany who created a youth league.

00:09:10 - 00:09:34 | Speaker 1:

Well, I would like to, for the record, as a former candidate for vice president of Liverpool School Council, I promise you that I was never involved in any kinds of activities like that. But I do not know what the Valley City Youth League is. And here I am claiming it on official campaign literature. What the hell is the Valley City Youth League? And what did I do with them?

00:09:34 - 00:09:59 | Speaker 2:

also did you care about our school that was the next bullet point and or did you care about our students which is the final bullet point on look how it's jammed in there too it's like he ran out Andrew I have to tell you this this poster is just absolutely wonderful to me it's also very in keeping with something I've been obsessing over lately which is this new podcast it's the basic

00:10:00 - 00:10:49 | Speaker 1:

latest offering from the folks over at cereal it's called the improvement association okay and it's hosted by zoe chase and it's about um it's basically about about voter fraud and alleged voter fraud in north carolina and it is so riveting i've just been geeking out to it as i've been driving around rural oregon and so looking at this i now very i'm very dialed into if this is or is not election fraud, Andrew. And I think what I would say is it would be submitted to the election fraud board for review because we just, you know, we need to sort of fact check a few of these statements, but it would probably come back as inconclusive. They would probably say that this sign is legit or at least they can't find anything that makes this sign active voter fraud.

00:10:49 - 00:11:10 | Speaker 2:

I'm wondering if I were running against Donald Trump, what nickname would he give me based on this, like Lion Andy. No, he already named somebody Lion, right? Yeah. But like maybe this is a very unfun place to take this. In fact, maybe we shouldn't do that thought experiment. Andy, well, can I ask you this?

00:11:10 - 00:11:12 | Speaker 1:

Did you win?

00:11:13 - 00:11:36 | Speaker 2:

You know, I didn't even remember running until about a half hour ago, so don't trust me on this, but I think I ended up becoming elected king. No, I don't think so. I don't. I mean, I don't think I sat on the student council. I feel like I'd remember a meeting or something, but I don't know, man. I guess I got to call Tim.

00:11:36 - 00:13:15 | Speaker 1:

I had an interesting experience the other day that involved Matthew McConaughey, which isn't something I usually say. But it was Sunday afternoon, and the TV at my house was – I got home, and I turned on the TV, and it was still on Root Sports because of some Mariner watching that had been going on at some other point. But it was like five in the afternoon It was a weird time It was like five in the afternoon on a Sunday And they were playing something called The Graham Bensinger Show Which I have a lot of thoughts about I have never before seen the Graham Bensinger Show It is constantly being advertised He's always talking to like The most famous people in sports And it seems to me Like if you Next time you watch a Mariners game Andrew Just keep your eyes peeled For a promo for something called The Graham Bensinger Show I will that's weird because I've been watching so many games but this doesn't I must zone them out It's crazy for years I've been seeing references to this guy And again he's always talking to like the absolute A-list of sports And yet I've never seen the show I don't know anything about the guy It's like almost as if they like created some sort of fake show just to troll me Well it turns out it is on TV It's in the primetime slot of Sundays at 5 p.m. or something, which I'm also kind of like, how is he getting all of these mega stars when the show is on Sundays at 5 p.m.? Like, that's just not that's not the primest of times for that kind of show.

00:13:15 - 00:13:23 | Speaker 2:

Anyway, here's my because that would go right up against Sunday night baseball in this case. And I am but assume Sunday night football. If it's a year round show, that's a terrible time to have a sports show.

00:13:23 - 00:16:17 | Speaker 1:

And maybe it's on different places on different, you know, of these stations. but it's just it's just weird it's like there's this guy it'd be like a band that's had like four number one songs and you've never heard of them and everyone and you keep seeing ads for them and you're like how does how is this completely off my radar and yet it seems like something i would know about anyway i can confirm grand ben singer is apparently a real human he was talking to matthew mcconaughey and matthew mcconaughey actually told a very uh charming story he also was being very annoying in the interview what they were doing was they were The ostensible point of the interview was to talk about his book. I think he put out a memoir at some point recently. And it was clear that McConaughey's handlers had said, Graham Bensinger, you can talk to McConaughey, but you've got to really get into this book. And it's like, nobody cares about the book. No offense. so they were they were dipping in between a zoom conversation with mcconaughey and the audio recording of like the book on tape the audible version of matthew mcconaughey's um a book which then they were animating with old photos and things that's actually a fairly clever way to present the book but they were like basically presenting excerpts of the book but it was matthew mcconaughey reading you know from his book as i'm sure you can get the book on tape Now, what was annoying to me about – I'll start with the negative. What was annoying to me was apparently there's a part of the book where Matthew McConaughey claims that his parents would fight a lot. And he was like they were fighting and then suddenly their shouts turned to lovemaking. Matthew McConaughey really is into the whole thing around his parents. love life i guess according to him his dad died while making love to his mom that's one of the famous mcconaughey stories i don't know if you know that i did not he also has this story about how they were fighting and then all of a sudden they were making love and i think graham bensinger asks well how did you know they were making love and mcconaughey's response instead of giving us some kind of uh information that will somehow verify this happened just goes um that's a rude question and it's like what you you brought us here you put it in your book the guy's asking how did you know that that was happening that's a rude question and what it basically was was oh matthew mcconaughey is full of shit yes it's like thank you yes i mean that's the takeaway like we want a verification of matthew mcconaughey in this kind of like slightly ball busty way i'm sorry in the slightly ed ball busty way by the way happy 10 year nine day anniversary of ed balls he was like that's a rude question and i was like no that's not a rude question it's just trying to verify some of this and we can't because you're matthew mcconaughey and you are uh you just kind of get to live on your own wavelength but here was the part that i thought was interesting and this pertains to your livermore uh elementary school election i'm sorry liverpool thank you

00:16:17 - 00:17:18 | Speaker 1:

liverpool elementary school election so mcconaughey said that for years for his whole lifetime he was under the impression that he had won this kind of like i guess you would call it sort of a beauty pageant but it was a thing called little mr texas which was a pageant of sorts but for young boys and his mom he had a trophy and his mom had always told him that he had was little mr texas And he took a lot of pride and confidence from this. And he, you know, obviously had a very successful career. And he told Graham Bensinger that it was only recently that he actually looked at the trophy and noticed that it says first runner up. He didn't win Little Mr. Texas. And he went to his mom. He was like, Mom, you've always told me I won Little Mr. Texas. and his mom said oh well the kid that won his parents were rich and they cheated

00:17:18 - 00:17:29 | Speaker 2:

that sort of sounds like this sort of sounds like your family lore in a way i don't have a direct don't take offense to that i don't have a direct analogy but it just sort of sounds like something

00:17:29 - 00:19:01 | Speaker 1:

question and it sort of sounds like something your mom might say very much so but what's funny is so so mcconaughey's mom apparently just decided that he won and told him that and what he said to graham Bensinger that was interesting was he said I wonder And this ties maybe sort of Tangentially into our NPR conversation We're soon going to have within the next one to two Weeks he said I wonder What my life would have been if I had Gone through life thinking I didn't Win little Mr. Texas Hmm like because it was like How much confidence yeah yeah Blew him into he was Walking into rooms and just thinking I got This I'm the reigning little Mr. Texas And then to find out that was A lie I was like I was like that's actually kind of that's It's an interesting interesting question is like if you you know because of course so many of us struggle with self-confidence and it manifests in so many different ways. But it's kind of and I I tend to think that it's a little bit it can also be not the greatest thing in my opinion to sort of pump kids up with totally unearned confidence. I'm not like the biggest fan of that although I guess I don't know what the downside is of a kid feeling good about themselves. I feel like there's just a lot of kids Wearing slay all day t-shirts and I'm thinking You've slayed very little today Mark But anyway Slay all day except for nap time But I kind of feel like That's just an interesting kind of parenting experiment To just like inject your kid with some confidence Even if it's kind of a lie And see what happens Maybe they'll grow up to be Matthew McConaughey

00:19:01 - 00:19:27 | Speaker 2:

I'm looking at the One of my favorite things to do is look at the comments on youtube i'm not even youtube's youtube comments are a weird place they don't get necessarily all nasty like you think about you know comments on you know anything on twitter becomes sure oh you know what i had i'm sorry hold on whatever i was gonna say is not important um really quick and i i know we can't go on too many tangents today um because we have some

00:19:27 - 00:19:34 | Speaker 1:

important anniversaries to note but what do you get somebody for the 50th year and two-day

00:19:34 - 00:21:12 | Speaker 2:

anniversary is that i'm guessing a tea popper i think a tote bag um but um i'm sure you saw this a couple of days ago luke um will smith posted a photo of himself on instagram that god i should have had this in front of me because i'm not going to remember any of the people but he posted a photo of himself shirtless or i believe maybe wearing a loose uh button-down shirt but it's open in front you know he's like kind of a beachwear pool poolside uh type of attire and he says uh maybe you have it off the top of your head but i think he said not gonna lie this i'm in the worst shape of my life and you know he's not a big guy but he's just looking a little saggy you know like we think of will smith as just being buff af right and he just looks a little normal i mean i would i would literally cut off two more of my fingers um just to you know look like will smith obviously but he's like oh you know I'm in the worst shape of my life and then I'm looking at and it's pretty charming and I'm reading the the comments and people are just like this is the best social media ever posted and just like kind of a bunch of basic things until I look a little bit closer I'm just like scanning through them quickly and I realize oh all of these people who are just leaving very random comments here they're all super famous like the person who said oh I'm gonna I can't remember I remember Amy Schumer like the first one was like hey no you look great I was like, okay, that's a nice stranger saying that. No, that was Amy Schumer who said that. Was this on Instagram? This is on Instagram. Like, then the reason that I finally realized, oh, these are all famous people leaving comments is Michael Bay was like, let's get the gang back together. I can't remember what franchise they did together. But, like, let's make.

00:21:12 - 00:21:15 | Speaker 1:

Independence Day probably. Was he in that one?

00:21:16 - 00:21:27 | Speaker 2:

Actually, I may even be mixing up my action directors. It was Michael Bay or something like that. But it was, like, one of the ones where it was, like, a buddy thing. I believe it was a buddy cop movie where he drives around. With him and Martin Lawrence.

00:21:27 - 00:21:41 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, right. It might have been that way. At the name of that franchise. It'll come to me in a moment. But there was something about prioritizing those comments because they were coming from famous people. Yeah, I definitely think that's the case.

00:21:41 - 00:22:47 | Speaker 2:

I don't even really have an issue with that. And I don't know fully what my point is other than it was kind of maybe a stars. They're just like us moment because I was like, oh, yeah, you know, there were non-offensive comments, just comments. But then it took me a second to realize, oh, these are all super famous people just leaving nice little notes for their friend, Will Smith. Questlove was one who wrote, this is the most amazing post in the history of social media. I thought that was just a fan, but no, that was Questlove. Somebody wrote LFGGG. Oh, you know what? That was Diplo who did that. Somebody else wrote, hey, we're twins. Guess who that was? DJ Jazzy Jeff. Again, I don't know why I'm getting so much delight out of this. it's just social media i don't think i follow a lot of famous people on instagram and social media so i just sort of found it charming that i had scrolled through a bunch of comments thinking they were just from people just like me but instead they're all these like super super oh uh schwarzenegger left a comment and then it was michael bay who said well let's get the band back together bad boys final chapter you'll get in shape i guarantee you thanks michael yeah that

00:22:47 - 00:24:46 | Speaker 1:

that's the that's the franchise with him and martin lawrence yeah um that's no that is true I found that post to be that post to be very, very charming, to be honest with you. Like and I kind of I think I I razz Will Smith on this show. I mean, and I know that's obviously been difficult for him because he's been hearing at the talk on the streets and, you know, puts me in a tough position, too. You know, yeah, he's reached out to me through some back channels to see if I could kind of go a little easier on him. But no, it's like Will Smith to me sort of represents in a way just like, I don't know, somebody who maybe he has a lot of personality and I just don't know it because I don't know him. And like if you talk to him off screen, he's like very interesting. But he just seems there's something that seems so kind of squeaky clean about him and so accessible that just makes him a little bit less interesting to me as a as a star. um but man oh man that photo i loved it because yeah and also bt dubs i would um you know i would pay the iron price if i could be as not in shape as will smith is currently not in shape but it was very relatable and i liked it because i mean i don't even need to explain this to the listeners but it's just like particularly famous people are very generally speaking movie stars are very kind of manicured about their about their I mean there's a sort of a no makeup movement that I think has happened which seems like a cool thing to me where a lot of stars will post a picture with no filter and no makeup but but generally speaking when you look at somebody who's really famous and a movie star and beautiful like Will Smith a lot of times you're seeing an idealized version of their life and it just kind of makes you feel a little cruddier about your life because none of us are able to keep up with that so him saying that honestly that day it like put some wind in my sails i was like all right i can cut myself a little slack today because even will smith has been kind of struggling during this thing dude just in the time that you were saying

00:24:46 - 00:25:51 | Speaker 2:

that and i'm sorry to be the bear of bad news it's been ruined for me because he posted that and then there's one that's been posted just a little bit ago which is now him shirtless just wearing those tight little shorts. shorts he was wearing and it's a little like kind of gif of him going back and forth and he's sticking his belly out and he's really showing off his you know kind of saggy belly but it's a corporate partnership this is the body that carried me through an entire pandemic and countless days grazing through the pantry I love this body but I want to feel better no more midnight muffins this is it I'm gonna get in the best shape of my life teaming up with YouTube to get my health and wellness back on track hope it works so it sounds like this whole thing was a publicity stunt for something he's partnering with youtube for that really bums me out nothing gold can sag did i say nothing gold can stay by the way because i was thinking that's how i was going to break that news to you and um i love that though that that's a bummer i wonder if what

00:25:51 - 00:26:11 | Speaker 1:

i'm hoping happened and even this is still not as great as him just putting a relatable photo up i'm hoping that because that photo got so much attention somebody reached out to him and then they hatched a plan to make some money off the thing and him get in shape i sure hope that first post wasn't with the knowledge that he was then going to do this other thing because he's wearing

00:26:11 - 00:26:23 | Speaker 2:

the same shorts though he's wearing the same shorts now and in this new one that's moving possibly only owns one pair of shorts he's like in front it's clearly like a photo shoot he's like Standing in front of like a curtain that has been Like a backdrop

00:26:23 - 00:26:27 | Speaker 1:

Yeah that's a real bummer

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God

00:26:28 - 00:26:45 | Speaker 1:

That see See Andrew I was right to be suspicious of Will Smith That's exactly The one time he does something that's supposedly Relatable it's for a fitness company And he's going to get his six pack Back and he's not going to be Unrelatable again

00:26:45 - 00:27:06 | Speaker 2:

I still like him I think we both said he's charming That's got to be the number one characteristic of Will Smith, right? Like, he's a lot of things. I think he's funny. I think he's a good actor. I think he's down to earth. There's a lot of good things about him. But charming is number one, right? Yes. To be that charming. You don't even have to look like Will Smith to be that charming.

00:27:07 - 00:27:22 | Speaker 1:

No, I believe the sense I have is he can walk into a room and really light it up and be everybody's best friend. And I did have the briefest of encounters with him years ago. Remember GameWorks?

00:27:23 - 00:27:28 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I remember seeing it around. It wasn't a rental place. What was GameWorks?

00:27:28 - 00:28:12 | Speaker 1:

It was like an arcade, but it was like a really cool one that wasn't cool. It was a sort of collab with like, I think Spielberg was involved. It was somehow like something that involved like Microsoft. It was like Bill Gates and Spielberg and a bunch of people from kind of different industries had all kind of come together and put a bunch of money into this thing. And they had the grand opening of the GameWorks in Seattle. I must have been working at like KVI at the time, but I went to it and I was floored. Will Smith was there. There was like a bunch of legit huge stars at the opening of a video game place in Pacific Place.

00:28:13 - 00:28:43 | Speaker 2:

I read that's why I know it I've never been in there but it was next to the theater to the movie theater right there downtown and so I would pass it all the time when I was going to see my midday movies midday matinees but wow so yeah you know I mean Will Smith so what was your actual like interaction then I think I said hi to him or something and I think he said hi back and he said I got to tell you something buddy my I'm having this pain with this tooth and I was like oh my god can I help you and he goes

00:28:43 - 00:28:53 | Speaker 1:

No, I've entered a partnership with Dr. Lee Johnson's minimally invasive surgery, and he's going to fix it for me. I was like, this is an ad, too? What the hell?

00:28:53 - 00:28:54 | Speaker 2:

He's going to help me get my smile back.

00:28:55 - 00:29:20 | Speaker 1:

Is every conversation that you have that seems relatable actually just a product placement? No, I think I said hi to him, and I think he said hi back nicely, but I just remember being kind of shocked. Like, I didn't like this was just, again, a video game like arcade. And then it was at that point, like Vince Vaughn was there at that moment. It was the most famous people I had ever seen in the same place.

00:29:21 - 00:30:43 | Speaker 2:

I think that, you know, every now and then I feel like the question comes up either here or in general conversation, like you're talking about celebrities, like what celebrities would you want to hang out with if given the chance? Like, that's a tough one for me because, number one, I'm not a huge celebrity chaser kind of guy. partially because of my own hang-ups um but um partially because they're fast right um but like and also i think that i i wouldn't want to be around somebody famous who i even like slightly have a crush on even if it's a non-romantic crush because then like if i'm so nervous the whole time like let's just say like the thing is you get you're gonna Spend a while. one day just doing stuff with a celebrity like if i like the celebrity too much it might not be that fun because i'm in my head too much the whole time like will smith i'm not a huge will smith head like i've probably seen you know i've seen some of his movies but maybe a quarter an eighth of his catalog you know like i've never seen any of those buddy cop movie or those uh buddy movies so anyway my point is he might be the perfect celeb for me to hang out with because i feel like He just seems like he'd be very nice And laid back And he wouldn't blow smoke up your ass But he also would you know Just be you know kind of game To try to make you feel comfortable And yeah I think maybe Will Smith Is my celebrity friend for a day

00:30:43 - 00:30:55 | Speaker 1:

And you wouldn't be nervous Because I'm sure I would be to a degree But you wouldn't care that much What Will Smith thought of you As opposed to you know I don't know Who is a celebrity that you would feel nervous

00:30:55 - 00:31:11 | Speaker 2:

Hanging out with because of how much you like them that's an interesting question and now of course my mind goes blank i remember one time you and i were talking about this and we both landed on tom waits surprisingly um although i feel like tom waits would be a pretty chill guy to hang out with too i don't think he's i think i'd be okay

00:31:11 - 00:31:23 | Speaker 1:

with tom waits because i'm not really a fan mm-hmm yeah i feel i'd feel comfortable around tom waits i think trying to think who for me would be kind of um well you're kind of getting the opportunity

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need to do that like i think wayne coin would have been at the top of your list and you literally

00:31:27 - 00:32:08 | Speaker 1:

hung out with him for a couple of days yeah that is true i mean he would have been high up there maybe steve carell because i really like steve no you know what steven colbert oh my gosh yeah that would yeah and i actually have very briefly like he was a not my job guest on wait wait when i was on so i've probably like said two words to him over a phone line which doesn't really count but i've had a very very very very minimal interaction with him but i think if they were Like, you can go kick it with Stephen Colbert at his house in New Jersey and just hang out on his, you know, deck and and have a beer or whatever. I would that would stress. I mean, I'd be excited, but I'd be really stressed because I hold Stephen Colbert in the about the highest regard you can hold a human being in.

00:32:09 - 00:32:31 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. And I wonder if I'd be able to, like, kind of keep up with the conversation, you know, with him or would I would I feel like I was, you know, able to. I think I'd be, yeah, very nervous to be sitting across from him because he is, I mean, I've said it a lot. Like, when I think of him, I just think genius. Like, he's a modern genius for what he is doing. I think he has very few people to compare himself to.

00:32:31 - 00:34:06 | Speaker 1:

I agree, and he's not just a genius, but he's also, I don't think it's effortless, but it sounds and appears effortless. Even when he was on Wait, Wait, you know, because there's the part of it that gets on the radio, and then there's the there's a lot of like getting the person on the phone and and the kind of stuff like this was during the pandemic by the way and he was just at his house and he was like going in and out of his like kitchen and he was taught his kids were home because of the pandemic his kids are grown you know or like maybe in college or something and he was just like being super funny with them but not in a way that seemed like he was even trying he just but he and every question that peter would ask him or we the panelists would ask him he would just have a really thoughtful answer but it just was right off the top of his head and and by the way i would recommend if you're a like me a colbert fan and you haven't caught it listen to his uh interview that he did with conan during the pandemic i think um it was because he did an interview with conan years ago right when conan started his podcast but he did one more recently and it was it's i guess the thing about stephen colbert is he's so funny but he's also sort of profound but he's not because he's been through a lot in his life you know his dad and i think two of his brothers passed away in a plane crash when he was a like a teenager his dad was a doctor i think his dad was like the head of a hospital a really big figure in his life and of course his brothers would be as well so he's really been through some stuff but he's just somehow both really funny but also really thoughtful and also kind of profound but not in a way that seems like he's taking himself too seriously he's just the guy's got it figured out somehow on the other end of the

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spectrum how would you like to be locked in a room with matthew mcconaughey oh my god that's a or graham or graham bensinger i might i would probably take graham in that case i would take

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graham bensinger seems generally like a force for good if you heard anything in my voice it's just that i'm jealous yeah i'm like i'm you know how is it that how is graham bensinger as unknown as i

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am but he's getting to talk to mcconaughey yeah i gotta say kanye used to be pretty high on my list But then Kanye, you know, he's changed a lot in the past decade, I would say, or at least or maybe we're seeing more of who he is. But I do think that he's, you know, suffering from some some illness and struggling. But like back in the day, I used to have whole fantasies about being Kanye's intern. I used to talk to Genevieve about plots so that I could be like I would love to hang out with Kanye, not like in clubs or just for the day. But like I would love to hang out with him in the studio for a day like that.

00:35:00 - 00:35:06 | Speaker 1:

would be like a dream come true at least back in the day yeah uh we have got to take a quick break

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here andrew because we have the the listeners have accepted a lot from us but i do not think they will accept npr 50th anniversary plus three days i just think they draw the line at 50th anniversary plus two days we're doing that tomorrow no matter what happens today all right quick break and then we'll be back with more tbtl on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready Let's thank some dazzling donors. These are the wonderful, generous, supportive, awesome, amazing. I'm trying to think of some other ways to describe these people. Charming. Charming. These are people that I would be nervous to hang out with, but they would immediately put me at ease. I certainly hope so. Although they might make me nervous. I don't know. How about David Kreutz? of Setagaya, Tokyo, Japan. Well, I wouldn't be nervous to talk to David because we've talked to David definitely during our Zoom last year, but I think maybe even IRL at some point. But I'm also only now learning how David's last name is pronounced. Yeah, I know. I'm so sorry, David.

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I shudder to think how we've pronounced that over the years.

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Well, here's the thing, because there was a football player for the University of Washington and later the Chicago Bears named Olin Krutz.

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Okay.

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And it was spelled exactly the same way. And so I actually thought I kind of had some inside info on how David pronounces his name, but he doesn't. It's David Kreutz. According to him, he could be wrong. It could be Kreutz. That's a rude question. Think about it, David. David said, when I first moved to Japan, TBTL was a great way to feel connected back to the PNW as I settled into my new home. During the pandemic, as I spent most days at home working from my apartment, it's been a great way to combat loneliness. listening to tbtl feels like hanging out with your friends and just having a conversation i am fortunate to not to be affected financially during covid time so i wanted to be sure to give back to the tbtl community to help tbtl keep going thanks david that's really kind of you uh arigato goza maisu that's thank you very much in japan uh in japanese i should say for another great year of tbtl arigato goza maizu how was that pretty good i'm wondering if it's maizu though gozaimasu oh yeah you're right i was getting goes gozaimasu because it's a yeah yeah arigato gozaimasu that's my um that's my official voice when i speak japanese all of my knowledge of the accent of japanese is from things that people in the movie lost in translation say to bill murray

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character. When's the last time you've seen that movie, by the way? Because it's come up recently and I really want to re-watch it now. I haven't seen it since college on a VHS tape.

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I own it. I have it on not this laptop anymore, but some... I mean, theoretically it should follow me since I bought it and it lives in the cloud, but of course it doesn't because all that stuff is BS. But I had it on the laptop because it was a go-to movie for me. If I happened to be in a hotel room traveling and there was nothing good on TV, I can always watch that film. But it's been a couple of years.

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So you've seen it over and over. Is it because it almost has that, like, when you're traveling alone for work, which is something you do, you know, 20 times more than I do or 100 times more than I do, but there is a sort of, I find it not unpleasurable, but there is a sort of a lonely feeling that kind of can go along with that, that you can kind of delve into a little bit. And that movie, is that why that's your kind of travel movie? Because it kind of echoes that sort of on the road, but I don't know, a little sad?

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Well, maybe. I can't quite put my finger on it. I mean, one, I just love the movie. I'm a really big fan of the soundtrack. So I used to have a whole ritual in L.A. where I would drive around listening to that soundtrack. And then I've tried that sometimes, you know, in the more modern era, and it just doesn't work. I mean, I still like the soundtrack, but it was like I basically was doing it. I was trying to get the feeling that I had had at age 29 of living in L.A. and driving to the Tattletail after a Friday sesh at work. And I'm listening to the Lost in Translation soundtrack, and it's feeling a certain way for me. That being said, the movie itself, I just – yeah, maybe it's a little bit – I mean, I'm not staying at the Park Hyatt in Tokyo. But that feeling of just being kind of on the road and, again, largely by myself and sometimes sitting in restaurants where a band is like, we're Sausalito, which is just one of the many great things about the movie that the hotel band is called Sausalito.

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Oh, I totally forgot about that. You know what else I'm realizing now? You were thinking of Bad Boys 2? I was thinking Mystery Train for some reason. No. You're talking about, yes, okay. I knew that you loved Lost in Translation. That is, actually, when we first met, I think you were still in kind of the peak of your love for that movie. This whole time, I don't know why I was thinking Mystery Train. I had my eyes on the wrong charm. We were talking about Mystery Train the other day, and I also love the Mystery Train soundtrack. But I would be much more surprised If you had Mystery Train on your laptop And you watched it many times on the road I was very shocked by that Lost in Translation does not surprise me as much I know that you love that film

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Good job Andrew

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Just keep the show going

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Arigato goza masu David said P.S. I would love it if you could play Everybody Jam By the legendary Scatman John As your outro song It's fun and energetic and we could all use that right now Absolutely, David. Happy to make that happen. And thank you for the donation. Maestro?

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On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Arigato, Maestro. Ready. Go. Did you hear my ice pack crinkle as I suddenly realized? Oh, yeah. How's your finger? It feels way better now that I... It was pretty tough today, but you know what? I didn't put ice on it, and this ice thing really works. I mentioned that earlier in the week. I'm really impressed with this new technology called Frozen Water. Good. I'm glad that it's feeling

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a little bit better. You know who else is happy about that? Kevin Zintarski of Omaha, Nebraska. Kevin's our second dazzling donor today.

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It's probably another name that we've probably messed up over the years, but now we have these handy-dandy announcers. Oh, I don't know.

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I mean, I just look at Zintarski and it just says Zintarski to me. There's no way I would have called him Z-antark-ski, which I probably did. Right. Kevin says, I just want to use this time to thank Luke and Andrew for keeping all of us tens reasonable in these unreasonable times. Dang, where's my bell? This podcast and community are amazing and serve as worthy companions that have been with me for many years at this point. I'd also like to give a quick first Blur's Day shout-out to the newest member of my family, our pod dog, a chocolate lab named Divot. Hold on, I've got something for that. Aww. A chocolate lab named Divot. I'm so excited for the next year with you all. Signed, Kevin. P.S. Slabjacking. I love it. That's a pretty good spoof. Nice job, Kevin.

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Slabjacking. That's an earworm for me. Sometimes it just gets in my head in that very flat way that he says it. Slabjacking.

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Have fun, by the way, with Divot. That chocolate lab, those things, I speak from experience, those things can be a handful, but that's going to be a lot of fun.

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What do you think of the name Divot? I've never heard of that as a name before. I like it. That's like a little hole, right? There's a divot in there. Watch. Watch. Don't trip in the divot.

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Well, and also, I always just think of divot as being very much associated with golf. When you're swinging at your ball and you miss and you knock a hole in the grass, that's a divot. And you're supposed to replace your divots. That's a big deal.

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So I wonder if that's a golf. I wonder if Kevin or some of his family is a big golf person.

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Well, thanks, Kevin. We appreciate you. Couldn't do this without you.

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Hello and welcome to Top Story. That's about all the time we have today, but maybe we can come back tomorrow and talk about some of these stories. Sorry, go ahead.

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We do have to be out of here in what, like 19 minutes or something is the time that we'd set on the clock? Oh, right, yeah, okay. But that's enough time for us. Again, part of me, it's bittersweet. that we're actually getting to this topic because it would have been fun to just keep pushing it indefinitely. But NPR recently had its anniversary, and I was, like most of our listeners probably, listened to a lot of public radio, hearing all of the memories and the history of the network and how it started out as a real kind of scrappy operation. And a lot of the credit goes to the so-called founding mothers of NPR, And those would be Susan Stamberg and Linda Wertheimer, Cokie Roberts and Nina Totenberg, who once did I ever tell you at the wait, wait 20th anniversary, I saw Nina Totenberg and Robert Siegel and I knew Robert Siegel sort of OK. I had been to a Washington Nationals game with him, but I don't know if I'd ever really met Nina Totenberg. I'm a huge fan and I but I wanted to say hi to her and I said I don't know if you know me and she goes of course you're Luke Burbank I think she said you're charming oh whoa you're the Will Smith of public radio and that's what I told her I was like please come see my new movie

00:45:00 - 00:46:03 | Speaker 1:

bad boys three um no i was off your shirt and you said i'm in the worst shape of my life and she said please leave yes um but i um that made my life but anyway point is that um uh obviously npr was was notable for a lot of reasons including the fact that they actually had women working in a lot of really important positions early on so whatever we don't have to say anything much more about npr itself as an organization what i was wondering about was where you think you would be today because i'm going to go with the argument that if npr doesn't exist new hampshire public radio doesn't exist in the way that it did when you went there like there were public radio stations you know there were there were stations that were doing playing music and they were community powered and you know people maybe even donated money or something but there wasn't i i feel like without npr you wouldn't have all these member stations because it's just too hard to generate that kind of content on a budget, right? Would you agree that without NPR, there's probably not the public radio network as we think of it?

00:46:03 - 00:46:44 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think certainly not the network, and it would have changed the career path of me and you. I mean, you literally worked for the network. But yeah, I agree. For this scenario, we say, yeah, maybe there are independent public broadcasting entities, But in this case, you're saying there's no NPR. Those things are probably way they're funded differently and underfunded. I'm guessing that in this scenario, and I wonder if you're even thinking the same thing for yourself, although maybe not. But I assume that it would be I would probably run like a like a bait and tackle shop with Kojo Nnamdi and Todd Munt probably.

00:46:44 - 00:46:49 | Speaker 1:

I'm sure the three of us probably a little bend in the road there off the Anacostia River live bait.

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I mean that's that it seems obvious you know so I don't know if you're looking for something more creative than that but that's probably where I end up what about you I don't know because

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I mean I wanted to be the thing the different things that I wanted to be were I wanted to be a pro basketball player that didn't really come together I think I wanted to be I wanted people to pay attention to me in some way and so I wanted to be an actor I was a drama major for a while in college um also I I was into sports like I maybe wanted to be a sportscaster but I just I don't know if I would have been like oh if I would have like if I would have tried to become an actor it's very possible I just would have never gotten in anything you know or if I wanted to be on you know a sports center on ESPN I don't know if I would have like I feel like now I'm confident enough that if you threw me into that environment I could kind of find my way through it but I didn't have you know I well that's not true I had a certain amount of unearned confidence when I was younger but I just don't know I feel like I could have you know living in Seattle at the time I mean one thing was I had this I had this constant need to make money because I had a kid so if like I mean part of why I worked at KUOW was well one I just thought the place was really cool but also it was a work study job i was getting paid to be there as a form of sort of financial aid so i was never at kuow not getting paid you know in my life so if that wouldn't have worked out if there were no kuow i mean my job before that was i worked at the front desk of the visitor information center and i actually thought that was a pretty dope job like i don't know if i would have if like if there would have been a job at microsoft um or amazon and you know an early very nascent version of amazon like uh and i could have made you know i'm making forty thousand dollars a year and i'm doing something there with like whatever selling stuff or i don't know how any of that works but i i feel like probably what would have happened to me early on is if i would have just gotten some kind of salary job that wasn't in radio i'd just still be doing that thing to this day so i feel very glad that kuow existed because i don't think i would work i don't think i would work have worked in radio or maybe i would have been in sports radio but god who wants to be doing that these days i mean seriously like it's a tough well it's a tough gig it's just like i feel like i mean one of the things that was so lucky for here's the thing that was very lucky for me about the existence of public radio i am not edgy by normal person standards but i am i guess in the world of public radio which historically has been fairly tame like the other day on live wire we we played a game with um an actress and a great podcast host her name is lacey mosley she also really this is just the day where i'm gonna recommend a bunch of other shows but um uh she hosts uh a show called scam goddess which is just about scams it's on earwolf and she's really

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funny but she's also on this show a black lady sketch show that's on hbo and um uh i was uh talking to her oh we did this game with her called what's sketchier because she knows about scams and she's also on a sketch show and we were like we need some music for this and i was like i got the music and i played opp i played some instrumental opp and i was just kind of like okay let's play what's sketchier and then it's just like opp and then i said something like uh we use the theme music for opp from opp because there's nothing sketchier than opp if you know you know i'm just gonna leave that right there i was very proud of that because that felt very edgy for public radio for me that i was playing not like not that opp is new music but just that i was like making a reference to the fact that opp is about adultery and the last p well that's not that simple it's sort of like another way to call a cat a kitten like i just was like it made me happy that i was able to put that into the world of public radio i thought you were going to tell me that one of your producers nixed it or something no they just don't want to even argue with me anymore i've worn them all down but anyway my point is i'm very lucky i'm very lucky that public radio exists and existed because i don't think i was going to be uh you know the cat williams i don't think i was i was not that good at stand-up comedy i don't think i was going to be out there in the world of actual actual like edgy funny stuff i'm probably about a four but i'm a public radio nine

00:51:28 - 00:53:05 | Speaker 2:

i um we go down we've gone down this road before and you know i don't 49th anniversary of the founding of npr it was the 49th year in two days yeah no i mean listen you know your life better than me obviously at this point i think you know my life better than me i don't know i don't even remember running for vice president of student council but um i don't think that you would have just ended up like you know doing a a job at microsoft and i don't mean that as a slam on people who do jobs at microsoft but i just think that one way or another luke you would have found yourself in something that is performance facing or or maybe journalism facing but like that is public and performative in some way there's just there's just no way you wouldn't have like you talk about the things you did as a young person and a young adult and you were pushed towards i mean you were in commercials during a time that i was probably you know just i don't know when was your how old were you when you were in your first tv commercial like oh that you were always just drawn towards these things in a way at a very young age in a way that like i just don't think that you might have worked other gigs but i think you would have been in commercials commercials maybe would have led to something else maybe you wouldn't have been maybe a huge success in the way you're picturing or hoping in this scenario but i just don't think that you end up being you know let's not even say today let's just say 35 years old and just you know clocking in and clocking out and working on the tps reports there's just no way i i don't think i would be

00:53:05 - 00:54:45 | Speaker 1:

doing the tps reports but i also am very money driven and i think if i would have gotten a good job that was paying me well i would have just been the insufferable guy who is you know doing whatever thing he's doing at amazon or whatever but is also like just overly uh like how do i describe it i i i definitely have some kind of show off gene as an ex like to say but i think if i like what i probably wouldn't have ever done is if i would have gotten a good job that was like paying my bills I don't think I would have walked away from it to like try to pursue my an acting career or a you know I'm generally I guess with the exception of quitting the Bryant Park project I'm generally actually somewhat risk averse um and so about that stuff I guess and so I don't know I mean I I think I would have had a dream in my heart of being on SNL but I also might have just been perfectly happy to make a good living and have a job I mean at a certain point my aspiration was to just have a job that was indoors that's what I liked about the KUOW opportunity was it was inside for the summer because previous to that all of my summer jobs had involved being outside right or sorting pipe fittings I recall or sorting pipe fittings in a basement yeah so you know yeah I mean I definitely have always wanted people to pay attention to me and so I i think i would be doing that but i mean i really i don't know i don't know what i don't i don't think it's a given that i would be in the entertainment field again i think i would be a wannabe entertainer much to the chagrin of anybody who had to come in contact with me at like karaoke

00:54:45 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 2:

night i think i think you would have kept doing oh you know stand up even if it was open mic nights or or what have you i mean if your job is maybe something more of a traditional desk job then And you're...

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you're doing other things you're working on some documentary like your Trachtenberg singers or you're doing other things and then that would I just

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I refuse to believe it sorry I'm being intractable here no you're not being intractable I the only the I already said this but the only thing that would the only kind of limiting condition on this is that I had to pay child support I had a kid so it was like I couldn't move to LA I if I hadn't had a kid so young then probably if public radio doesn't exist i probably moved to la and i try to become a stand-up comic and that doesn't work but i become a tv writer because i'm like friendly with people and i get in a writer's room and whatever like i could see that life happening for me but because i needed to live in seattle and because of and i needed to make money i couldn't just be like oh i'm just gonna like not have a job for a few years while i try to write the great screenplay that was something that i just got lucky that i had managed to finagle ways to actually get paid while still doing stuff that felt kind of fun and performing to me yeah yeah and what about you though no new hampshire public radio um what what's what's happening

00:56:08 - 00:59:06 | Speaker 1:

with andrew walsh well i do feel like well okay so there were two things i was interested in vaguely when i was in high school like i mentioned i was this on yesterday's show that I mentioned, you know, from an early age, I liked messing around with audio visual technology, you know, like I liked hooking up my VCRs and learning how to overdub things. And I was always fascinated with literally like production and just learning how to do it myself and especially the kind of technical side of things, less content creation. Oh, that's right. It came up because I told you like I wanted to make like trailers. To me, the perfect job would be somebody else makes a movie, but I get to make the trailer for it, right? um like taking a bunch somebody else's footage but then creating my little short about it also like the idea of making maybe music videos like again like short stuff that is kind of mixed media a little bit um i liked that i also didn't really know how to get on a career path for that though so my other plan was well become like a teacher like i pictured myself like a high school english teacher you'd be a really good teacher i feel like i would have a i feel like i would yeah i don't know it's hard to say like in a certain way i'm good with people but i'm also in some ways you might say not good with people so i you know like say uh no have way exactly so like at what point would i have just had enough you know and am i good with kids i actually don't really know i mean in my limited experience with them it's fine but you are limited experience well it's limited experience so i don't know but um i mean you're talking to a guy who chose not to have kids so Why would I choose a career path that puts me in, you know, in contact with kids? But, you know, I felt like I enjoy you've seen me before. Like you've I guess you saw me like when we did that presentation at the at the School of Visual Arts in Seattle, visual concept, visual concept. Thank you. And of course, we did our visual concept of podcasting. But no, we gave a little talk about that. And you could see that, like, I put together the slide for that. Like I like I do like kind of teaching people when I was at various radio stations, I often ended up being the person who would kind of I guess the term is on board somebody like teach them the system, you know, hey, we have a new young person in here, teach them this audio system or what have you. And I would make I would I'm good at making manuals like anytime somebody is going to fill in for me, I'll put together like a manual for them for my job. I love doing stuff like that. So I think there is part of me that enjoys kind of teaching. So I could see that being a good fit. But probably more likely, I think I would have found myself in some sort of a production job. You know, like my dad was trying to put me in contact with people like because, you know, he wasn't in these fields at all. But like he ran this metal shop. And so sometimes he would get gigs from this company.

00:59:07 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 1:

Are these people that hired him to make the mic stands for Prince? I think so, actually. The name of the company was Eighth Day Sound, I believe, in Cleveland. And on the eighth day, they made gun. He made sound. Yes. But what they did was they were a company who I don't think they traveled with bands. But when big acts like Prince were coming to Cleveland, the touring company would maybe hire them to kind of handle some staging stuff. I don't know more than that. My fear of heights, I think, would have been a problem with that. Like, as I remember. Well, go up in the catwalk. Yeah, exactly. Hang this woofer. My dad asked or, like, somehow set up an opportunity for me to shadow them or get a tour of their facility one time. And I think I remember the guy who was giving me the tour, probably the guy, the owner or whoever. And he just said.

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you're not scared of heights are you and I said um actually yes he's like oh that would probably be a problem because there's a lot of walking on catwalks and you know adjusting lighting and dropping cables and stuff like that but like I think there were various opportunities I didn't know what they were or how to pursue them even when I was in college that's where public radio came in and you know my friend said hey I work at this radio station are you familiar with public radio and I started listening to it and they were using sound in a way that I'd never heard before I didn't know there was this world of radio. And again, it was kind of a mixed media thing as well. Again, the way they were using sound. So I fell in love with that, got the job at the radio station, and the rest was history. But I feel like if it weren't for public media. And to think now you're in the Kent State Radio Hall of Fame. As you always like to make up. I'm already in trouble for my campaign lies, Luke. Let's not add that to the list. That's not made up. I've seen the evidence. Wasn't it a black and white print out of my face?

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That was scotch-taped to a window of a studio. It was laminated. It was a photo. It was laminated, and it was on a wall of fame. You're on the Kent State wall of fame. Yeah, sure. Okay.

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That's just absolute stupidity.

01:01:14 - 01:01:37 | Speaker 1:

Well, thank God Public Radio does exist, and we made our way here, Andrew, to where we have created so many memorable moments. the listeners are actually having a contest called tbtl drops of stupider the deuce where they are trying to figure out the most well we are and then they're voting on it trying to figure out the most memorable moment in tbtl history so we started with was it 32 teams and we're down to

01:01:37 - 01:02:29 | Speaker 2:

16 now i believe that is the case and again thanks to i was gonna say listener maybe we should just say producer jake in chicago for producing this whole thing for us we are where would producer jakeby without npr being founded 50 years and two days ago probably at a tigers game um let's see here so um we are now on to round two the secondary matchups if you'll recall um the serial episode was going up against the minnesota state fair episode well luke serial won and is moving on so goodbye to the minnesota state fair episode and We had Splooch, the diarrhea turtle, going up against our heartfelt tribute to Prince, which, you know, sorry, Prince, Splooch, the diarrhea turtle.

01:02:29 - 01:02:38 | Speaker 1:

Wow, Minnesota really taking it on the chin in that round, if you think about it. Sorry, land of a thousand lakes.

01:02:40 - 01:02:45 | Speaker 2:

Sorry, land of a thousand lakes, but have you seen Splooch, the diarrhea turtle?

01:02:45 - 01:02:50 | Speaker 1:

I mean, the diarrhea, I mean, the sweat, the sweat beads are just great.

01:02:51 - 01:03:12 | Speaker 2:

So that is your new matchup here. Matchup number one in round two is cereal. This is a global tell link. Prepaid call from. It's Cotton Crush. An inmate at a Maryland Correctional Society. All right. So it's cereal versus Spooch the Turtle. It just says.

01:03:13 - 01:03:17 | Speaker 3:

And I quote. in a hell of a font

01:03:17 - 01:03:40 | Speaker 1:

oh man i still don't know why laughing again on like in as of today's show in ontario oregon because i can't mute my microphone because i got my road kit and uh i am so sorry because eventually it's just going to be so many layers of me laughing but i can't not laugh i can't get

01:03:40 - 01:03:53 | Speaker 2:

over the fact that somehow us recording that that was in Tennant Creek right Australia were we already in the northern territory at that point I believe so we're just crossing into it yeah we

01:03:53 - 01:04:06 | Speaker 1:

were I think that was the stop before we got to Laramah because the people that ran the caravan park we stayed in in Tennant Creek also uh ran something up there right exactly yes so we were

01:04:06 - 01:04:31 | Speaker 2:

in the northern territory yet somehow luke i honestly think that is the best i've ever sounded like from a studio standpoint like i don't i've listened to that clip a bunch in that whole show and like i don't know what it is we were in one of those little camper things like a camper without wheels they were like these tin these little tin boxes with a bed and a tv and not much else yet i sound so like my microphone sounds so warm and it just says

01:04:31 - 01:04:37 | Speaker 3:

And I quote In a hell of a font

01:04:37 - 01:04:44 | Speaker 2:

I think I need to move the show Or at least my part of the show To Tennant Creek

01:04:44 - 01:04:49 | Speaker 1:

Or just get one of those That little like tiny mobile home we were in That's true

01:04:49 - 01:04:52 | Speaker 2:

But it has to be shipped over from Tennant Creek

01:04:52 - 01:05:00 | Speaker 1:

I know it has to come from Tennant Creek Definitely And then hire somebody to manage it Who is the world's biggest Madonna fan

01:05:00 - 01:05:10 | Speaker 3:

Right. All right, so there you go. That's the next two matchups, if you will, or the next matchup, which you can go vote on at tbtl.net right now.

01:05:10 - 01:05:14 | Speaker 2:

Yep, click on today's show. Click on today's show to find that. Sorry.

01:05:14 - 01:05:24 | Speaker 3:

So we said we were going to go out with a song that was suggested by listener David, Dazzling Donor David. That's right. Everybody Jam by Scatman John.

01:05:24 - 01:05:26 | Speaker 2:

Can I ask you a question, Luke?

01:05:26 - 01:05:42 | Speaker 3:

Yes. Whose world is it? If I had the drop at the ready I would play it for you But I will answer your question Actually I was about to sing the But I think I already am recorded That's already a drop of me singing Scatman John

01:05:42 - 01:05:45 | Speaker 2:

I think there is This music always

01:05:45 - 01:05:57 | Speaker 3:

We sort of There was an ironic distance When we started talking about Scatman John But I will tell you that I'm never listening to a Scatman John Song and thinking I wish this wasn't

01:05:57 - 01:06:12 | Speaker 2:

happening right now i mean it really is i was thinking about this because um the song we're about to hear i think we played it maybe once on the show when you and i were first discovering um scat man john um and it turns out that all the world had already celebrated his catalog long

01:06:12 - 01:06:17 | Speaker 3:

yes i believe he may have been deceased by the time we even found out about him yes i'm just

01:06:17 - 01:06:44 | Speaker 2:

wanting to thank you for the dough that was you um scatting for the dazzling donors um really high I just need to hear that But anyway this song Like it's called Everybody's Jam And it starts with like some cuts of Louis Prima So he's going back and forth I think it's Louis Prima Or wait a second is it Is it Louis Armstrong Hey Louis No that's Louis Armstrong isn't it

01:06:44 - 01:06:54 | Speaker 3:

But that's weird because Louis Prima did music That was very in the style of what Scatman John does in fact I would say It's much more Louis Prima than Louis Armstrong

01:06:54 - 01:07:11 | Speaker 2:

Thanks for trying to justify my mistake there. But anyway, yeah, but the song is like pure joy is to your point. Like Scatman John is doing like as much as it's like kind of it's mockable in some ways. What Scatman John is doing is just trying to cheer people up.

01:07:11 - 01:07:32 | Speaker 3:

Yeah. So that's what we're going to do. Play a little Scatman John on the way out today. Thanks for listening, everybody. Thanks for being part of TBTL. I will be back in the comfortable confines of the Nest Broadcast Center tomorrow. So please join us for that show if you can. Until then, have a great rest of your Wednesday. Stay safe. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

01:07:32 - 01:07:33 | Speaker 2:

And good luck to all.

01:07:33 - 01:08:36 | Speaker 1:

We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Louisiana, everybody jam.

01:08:37 - 01:08:44 | Unknown:

Everybody come and take a ride with me. What do you say? Get out of the way and move me.

01:08:53 - 01:08:55 | Speaker 2:

Power out.

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