with andrew walsh well i do feel like well okay so there were two things i was interested in vaguely when i was in high school like i mentioned i was this on yesterday's show that I mentioned, you know, from an early age, I liked messing around with audio visual technology, you know, like I liked hooking up my VCRs and learning how to overdub things. And I was always fascinated with literally like production and just learning how to do it myself and especially the kind of technical side of things, less content creation. Oh, that's right. It came up because I told you like I wanted to make like trailers. To me, the perfect job would be somebody else makes a movie, but I get to make the trailer for it, right? um like taking a bunch somebody else's footage but then creating my little short about it also like the idea of making maybe music videos like again like short stuff that is kind of mixed media a little bit um i liked that i also didn't really know how to get on a career path for that though so my other plan was well become like a teacher like i pictured myself like a high school english teacher you'd be a really good teacher i feel like i would have a i feel like i would yeah i don't know it's hard to say like in a certain way i'm good with people but i'm also in some ways you might say not good with people so i you know like say uh no have way exactly so like at what point would i have just had enough you know and am i good with kids i actually don't really know i mean in my limited experience with them it's fine but you are limited experience well it's limited experience so i don't know but um i mean you're talking to a guy who chose not to have kids so Why would I choose a career path that puts me in, you know, in contact with kids? But, you know, I felt like I enjoy you've seen me before. Like you've I guess you saw me like when we did that presentation at the at the School of Visual Arts in Seattle, visual concept, visual concept. Thank you. And of course, we did our visual concept of podcasting. But no, we gave a little talk about that. And you could see that, like, I put together the slide for that. Like I like I do like kind of teaching people when I was at various radio stations, I often ended up being the person who would kind of I guess the term is on board somebody like teach them the system, you know, hey, we have a new young person in here, teach them this audio system or what have you. And I would make I would I'm good at making manuals like anytime somebody is going to fill in for me, I'll put together like a manual for them for my job. I love doing stuff like that. So I think there is part of me that enjoys kind of teaching. So I could see that being a good fit. But probably more likely, I think I would have found myself in some sort of a production job. You know, like my dad was trying to put me in contact with people like because, you know, he wasn't in these fields at all. But like he ran this metal shop. And so sometimes he would get gigs from this company.