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All right. Hello. Good morning. And welcome to a Friday edition of TVTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. It's an audiophiles nightmare. My name is Luke Burbank. I'll be hosting things today. I am extraordinary! Give me a second here while I, um, I don't know if this will get picked up on the microphone. Oh yeah. Opening a fresh Topo Chico for today's show. That's how you know it's going to be A really quality program Is when I break out the good Topo Chico In the bottle, by the way With a twist of lime Like, that's what it says on the bottle I'm not putting a twist of lime in it We're not getting that fancy We are, by the way, though, arriving at episode 3423 In a collector's series Let the fun begin It's going to be another beautiful, warm day here in Portland

I feel warm and I'm levitating

And it's, man, it is a totally different world, theoretically, here on this Friday, when compared to yesterday when we started the show.

Is this real life?

We are now currently living in a world in which the CDC has said that for those who are vaccinated, basically normal life can resume. We can go into places mask-less. We can, yeah, just do most of the things that we were used to doing before this COVID-19 thing came around. And I'm still trying to fully comprehend what that's actually going to look and feel like. So that will probably be the main topic of the show today. It just feels weird, I guess. Weird! but we will talk about it and also of course we will do the drops of stupider contest the deuce bagel bagel bagel bagel boogle that drop from Sean DeTore is not part of the competition but I just wanted an excuse to play it this is of course our attempt to figure out the most memorable moment in TBTL history so we'll have a couple more drops that are in contention for that we'll do that plus music for your weekend and of course we'll talk to this guy the longest running co-bro of the show may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships i think i speak for the listeners when i say they just want you to be normal and clearly you're not he is andrew walsh he's joining me right now from the roosevelt neighborhood of seattle washington good morning my friend good morning luke it's noon um you playing that when i started the show it was when i started the show was 11 58 and i noted that by the way please do not air our do not air our business with the Listeners, please. This is not what this show is about. This show is not about airing our business. When you said good morning, the clock had just turned to noon. I happened to notice it on my... Good morning to you, but when I said good morning to the listeners, it was 11.58. So I feel like that kind of grandfathered in the... Good morning-ness of the open of the show.

Well, listen. Actually, it's funny that I'm giving you a hard time about this because what I wanted to say here very quickly at the top is I want to point out that you did me kind of a – you did me a solid yesterday by not belaboring something when I just did my usual – like every time I get strident, I'm wrong about something. And I even cut it out. There's no need to –

Why did I laugh over that? That's a drop that I need in my arsenal for my meme wars.

Wait. What did I say?

You said, every time I'm strident about something, I'm wrong

Every time I'm strident about something, I'm wrong There you go What a gift What a gift you just gave me, my friend I was so embarrassed after yesterday's show I'm editing the tape And I even cut this part out So listeners don't even know I don't have to go on this journey right now But I'm embarrassed We were talking, this is such

And you don't believe in a therapist you cut something out of the show and now you're telling us about it the impulse to cut it out of the show indicates you didn't want people to know about it but now you're talking about it

that shit is deep bro okay here's what why not yesterday during the and like most of this is in there but part of it is cut out the most embarrassing part yesterday on the show during the Drops of Stupider, which is why I thought of it when you played Sean DeTorey's tape there, we were playing the clip of the episode known as Prezine, which represents the Cooking with Sean segments of this Drops of Stupider contest, and you said, I don't think that was a, I'm paraphrasing here, but I think you said, well, that wasn't really a Cooking with Sean segment, that was the Prezine segment, and they were different. In my defense, I could be wrong about this, I do think that it was still branded as Cooking with Sean but now I realize I could be wrong about that because when you said that I got defensive and I said something along the lines of no no it was branded as cooking with Sean in fact I mean Sean's the one who came up with the recipe in the goddamn tape I played yesterday the very first words as a matter of fact do I have them here the very first words are what recipe did you pick for us Jen or something along the lines of that here wait do I actually

here it is cooking with Sean I'm gonna try playing this here the recipe that Jen selected those were the very first words of the tape I played look at that young voice full of hope and promise thinking he would never make it to 45 and still be doing this but the very first words are the

recipe that Jen picked out 40 seconds later on the show I'm arguing with you saying yeah it was a cooking with Sean I mean Sean picked the recipe like we had just heard now I don't know if you noticed that but like the proof was literally right there on the tape that what I was arguing arguing was wrong well

in your defense I was there when it happened and I had also heard the tape you played and I also fully believe it doesn't really you know what I mean like I like it when you said that

I was like yeah that's probably that checks out I'm I thought you just did that to be nice though I mean going back I'm listening to the tape I'm like oh Luke is so right he heard that I'm totally like the tape totally belies what I just said and we just heard the tape and usually you're pretty keen on that stuff so I thought you were just doing me a kindness and saying it just like letting it go because you said oh you're right you've heard it more recently than I do like and you were very no I I know I wasn't being gracious I was just

believing you because you have been really kind of like listening back to a lot of TV TL for this Drops of Stupider thing. And so mostly what I – if we can continue to quibble over something from yesterday's show, I think mostly I was just – and interestingly, we may have not even had – no, we would have had the conversation already because the Drops of Stupider was towards the end. Mostly my brain was I am – I will die on the hill that I think they called it a business person special.

Oh, yeah. OK.

The Mariner games. I have, again, no independent confirmation of that, but there is just something in my brain that when you said that aloud, you're repeating Rick Riz, it just sounded more, I don't know, memorable to me, or it fit into the slot in my brain where that lives, Dave Niehaus or Rick Riz saying nine-inning lunch slash business person special. Somehow it just sounded normal to me, if you will. Yeah. But, again, I'll never be able to prove it because you know what I did after the show? I Googled it trying to find evidence to support my case, and I ended up at the exact same place you did, which is a bunch of websites saying businessman special.

But none specific to the Mariners. And I was Googling both sides of that, you know, like businessman special and business person special and Mariners. I was trying to prove you right as well, but I couldn't find – you know, I just wanted something. but the one thing

that could maybe get us closer to the truth i'm checking my email now did anybody write in any long-time seattle residents i'm going to be meeting up with um uh p fletch phyllis fletcher later i know that she grew up here in seattle and her you know and followed the mariners uh to a degree so i'll ask her if she has any input on that yeah it's one of those things that

will never it will never be just there's no way to verify it unless somebody has like a random recording of like Dave Niehaus in 1987 you know like referencing an upcoming game that will be happening in the middle of the day so you know so Lynn get on it yeah all of that is to say Lynn, get to it. All that is to say, Lynn, get to it. No, it's – I'll never be able to actually prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt, but there's just something about business persons – maybe because at the time business person was not a normal – and I say normal, like the typical way to describe stuff.

I mean I like that.

And so it kind of made a little bit of a dent in my brain.

Well, that's that's funny. I mean, I, you know, yesterday when you said that, I thought that because in the story that I was telling was that Dave Niehaus recently on the radio said, you know, back in the day, we would have called this a business person special. And I the point of my story was I was incredulous. I was yelling at the radio. No, you wouldn't have. You would have called it a businessman special, even though I appreciated the more inclusive language. truthfully i thought back in the day you would just would have said businessman because that's what i'd always heard um but i like the idea and so when when you and i were talking about it yesterday i thought i had just sort of poisoned the well kind of put that idea in your in your brain by saying it but knowing that you feel so strongly about it um i i like the idea that the seattle mariners were ahead of the game and not being exclusionary yeah again i don't think it was

because of any sense of like understanding a better way to talk about gender roles etc i think if it if it happened the way that my brain remembers it happening it was just because they probably wanted to try to go from 1000 attendees to 1500 attendees right it is possible trying to think what the biggest tvtl live show we've had probably would have been at like maybe the neptune or something it's possible that the biggest day the biggest tbtl live event has outdrawn the smallest seattle mariners event which is you know very very unexpected considering that they're a major league baseball team and we're a not that popular podcast product but uh but yeah i mean there were some there were some days back in the day when it was just tumbleweeds in the old kingdom so anyway well i don't know if this i was not just trying to give you a break on the uh uh cooking with sean thing i literally just took you at your word

give me a bark um i don't know if this is a good idea or not but i did find some tape that could prove you right or wrong i typed in mariner's business person special ad and i've come up here with a one-hour-and-one-minute video called Jonathan D. Mariner, The Business of Major League Baseball. Should we just listen to that whole thing? Well, I think start from the beginning.

Let's be thorough about this. You know what I think that is? Is that that really amazing piece, that guy whose name is escaping me? Because, by the way, I really did click on a lot of things yesterday trying to verify, trying to give me the 411 on this. And one of them was the John Boyce thing. Oh, that's like amazing kind of statistical representation of the Mariners futility.

Did you watch that whole thing at the beginning? No, I did. Oh, Luke, it's I lived it. OK, I need to watch it. It's really good. It's really well put together. No, what I'm looking at here is University of Virginia Darden School of Business. It's a presentation by somebody named Jonathan D. Mariner. And it's the business of Major League Baseball.

Yeah. You know what? Listeners have been advocating for the shows to go longer. And I think this is a real opportunity for us. He's the chief investment officer of MLB. Anyway. I sent an email today where I modified my behavior based on something from that Anthropocene reviewed podcast that I've been talking about all week, the John Green show. What he does on that show is he kind of reviews, gives things a like one to five star rating and just random things. Diet Dr. Pepper, what have you. And one of the things he did that was genius was he basically just did a bunch of listener requests. So he did like 17, I think, like listener emails or whatever in a given show and then kind of rated all the things. And one of them was the question of if it is.

is pretentious to sign your emails with just your initials. I have been signing emails with best, comma, return, next line down, L, for a long time. And what his point was, was if your name is very long, and if shortening it to the initials, or your first initial, or your first and last initial, if it really does save you a lot of time, He was pointing out that his name is John, and he was typing J, whatever his middle initial is, and then G, and it was only one character shorter, less than his actual name, and so he was like, this is just – it's pretentious of me to do this. So he started going back with John, and I was thinking about interacting with him and sending some messages back and forth, and it said John. And it made me feel like he wasn't just a person who was in some ivory tower only able to type their initials. He seemed like a nice person, which he turned out to be. And so anyway, I have officially forsworn the practice of signing my emails best, comma, new paragraph or new whatever, L. I'm going with Luke now.

um i think he is completely wrong and he should feel ashamed for saying this no i'm just saying that because you said that he struggles with insecurity and that was a mean joke on my part um no i i do disagree though um here's why i think well it depends on who you're writing to if i am a booker at a public radio station and i'm writing to a stranger i will sign my name well first of all probably always begin by saying hi my name is andrew walsh and i'm a producer with blank blank blank um i will still probably sign it andrew if it's a complete stranger and i'm cold calling them but for casual correspondence even like once that person responds and now we're going back and forth i will sign it with a lowercase a um i used to sign all of my emails alw always in lowercase and then at some point i don't know when i dropped the lw and it's an a but here's why i think i like people i think people should do whatever they want if they want to write their name in all caps and uh just first letter is capitalized the rest isn't or you know whatever it is i think that's what makes it a type of signature like if you were signing a letter in the old days before the computers and the typewriters and the electric typewriters

um you by the way yeah another great episode of that podcast how did qwerty oh yeah become the

thing oh yeah well uh before we get into that like i think that you know some people would just like you know our signatures are written very quickly and they're distinct and that is you know um and you know over time like even when i'm signing my name with a pen it's usually a big a if you want to forge my signature you know you know just it's a big a and then kind of a scribble and a kind of a sort of a facsimile of a w um and that's how you know it's my signature and i think at the bottom of emails especially once you're kind of like familiar with someone it's like oh it's alw all lowercase that's how you know it's andrew it's just like it's a little i don't think it's pretentious i think it's just a little bit of i don't know flair or creativity or individualism

right and and i like the lowercase and you know because i think that's that's the thing is is something about uppercase just feels like you're uh jg wentworth and associates which we learned

recently is, J.G. Wentworth It's your money, and you want it now.

Yes. Which we recently learned was founded in New Jersey in like the late 1990s.

By a guy named Brad.

J.G. Wentworth came over on the Mayflower, which is the name of a large motorboat that the guy Rick Rogers, who founded J.G. Wentworth, was riding around in when he thought of the name J.G. Wentworth. But no, I do like the lowercase thing. And also, again, your name, Andrew, has more letters in it than my name, Luke.

Oh, that's true, too.

So I just feel like – well, I'll tell you this. When I sent this message this morning and I wrote Luke in it, it made me feel like I was – I felt closer to the person I was sending the message to. Luke, I have some breaking – It was a bill collector from Cascade. I have not paid the gas bill in Bellingham for years. They're literally – no, this is actually a true story, OK? Because of the vagaries of going through a divorce and also who gets which bills, I think at some point we must have gone paperless on the gas bill in Bellingham, which is fine. But also they never sent me the bill via email. So the bill was just not being addressed for what would appear to be a year. and the way that I found out that the gas bill was not

being paid on the bellingham place was i got a letter from cascade natural gas asking me if i needed financial help with my bill oh because of the pandemic like i mean to their credit like they were they it was in such arrears that they were like oh this is a person who clearly doesn't have the means to pay their gas bill and it's a pandemic and so we're you know and this is something that's you know would be considered uh sort of vital to life you know like power electric some would argue the internet at this point these are things that are basically human rights so they were like how can we help you fix this little do they know it's just because the swimming pool has been at 84 degrees for an entire year what i mean i don't know but i'm just saying I'm just saying like they're trying to be you know decent a decent organization and reach out to me and it's like the gas bill is very high and unpaid because of me not getting the emails and there being a variety of completely bougie voluntary events at the house in Bellingham that run up the gas right right right right right when I say events I just mean like a swimming sure like I don't think Carrie's been throwing parties although were she to be throwing them I would salute that you know what I mean

yes I'm a little distracted because you keep asking me this question Luke do I believe in a God

I'm on Topo Chico number two by the way speaking of bougie indulgences I'm trying to think

of a conversation you're having with the electric company or the utility company the gas company the electric bill is getting paid because Carrie is in charge yeah they can smell like the Topo Chico on the checks you're sending they're like this man can afford it anyway um i'm distracted because you keep asking me on this show do i believe in a god and you're surprised i don't when we have these amazing coincidences in the world i have recently shifted that to do you believe in therapy that is true i wrote that down as a show title for today uh a tweet just came like i just opened twitter kind of instinctively i don't know i just you know sometimes i hit it and the very top tweet that came in one minute ago from retro news now is on may 14th 1991 unbelievable by emf was released in the united states when was schubert dip when schubert dip come out now we know may 14th 1991 although the single might have been released before the lp anyway i just want to share that with you not a great

payoff there but i just want to tell everyone that if you get an email from me which is unlikely oh by the way the um qwerty thing was uh and you probably knew this we probably talked about on the show at some point but it felt like news to me it's it's because they couldn't on the original typewriter you couldn't have letters that were the most frequently used next to each other because it would just lead to jams and so it was it's like a very actually like thought out process of trying to figure out letter usage and frequency of letters and also something called cross-handing i think where it's like doing something with one hand well doing something with both hands being like what words allow you to kind of use both hands in a certain way anyway and the the qwerty keyboard was invented long ago and it's really never been bested

yeah i mean you know i really would have thought it had something to do with like well I guess I did think which letters are used more but I didn't think because of a mechanical situation I thought more like what are our strong what are our strongest fingers and I thought it had something to do with the comfort of typing but you're right I thought it was just sorry I was just gonna say the only reason it's comfortable now for us to type is because we know where we just know where everything is because we learned it in fact I was thinking the other day and again I'm not trying to belabor this but typing has just sucked lately because of my hand right so I'm trying to kind of relearn how to type things i don't know if you've noticed i've kind of given up on some capitalization like i like my emails usually i'm a sucker for detail um but i'm just sending out very sloppy emails these days because it's just like it just is what it is um but having said that i was thinking about the time i taught myself to type because as a hunt and pecker for a long time until i was an adult i think and i realized hey i'm doing a lot of typing this hunting and pecking is stupid i went online in the early days of the internet and just um you know kind of took some online typing very very simple basic typing um lessons and it was you know um i'm really glad i did and i'm just wondering they must teach typing do they teach traditional typing in school no i know we did i know i know like a lot of people of our generation didn't certainly the generations uh before us you know some people would you know actually go to a special school to learn typing but like right now in this day and age with everything being digital with the zip drives and the what have you, are they teaching kids the proper way to type? in like as part of the curriculums in 2021 you think i would guess not because well two things one i my guess would be that kids are used to typing a lot although that would be probably mostly on their phone although also kids have tablets and laptops and floppy disks so my guess would be it just is something that is more a almost just kind of naturally occurring language for kids or or modality in 2021 than when we were kids like you know like nobody had a

computer when I was 12 but at some point somebody's got to like if kids are typing and they're not hunting pecking and you know if you've hunt and pecked your whole life you can do it pretty quickly everybody's got their system but it really was a revelation I mean it seemed so awkward at first when you're like wow I could use my pinky to get to the cue and then like how am I the shift keys like but then once you learn it like truly learn it the right way it's it's almost like a magic eye i assume that those never worked for me but like really unlocks you know an ease of typing that you know decades later it's it's it's amazing to think that i can't do that anymore with my broken finger like at some point somebody's got to teach the kids like you got to sit down like which fingers go to which proper key like i don't think just being born in the computer age means that you know that like oh properly you should use your ring finger to hit the o button

Well, but see, that gets to a question of, quote-unquote, proper typing. Don't you just think it's kind of like whatever works for you? My point was, if you're a young person growing up now, like, you just have probably been typing a lot. Like, for instance, if you're like Rhiannon. DBTO! You probably have just been typing a lot. Like, for instance, Addie holds her pencil, quote-unquote, wrong. but she can write she has much better handwriting than I do so would she have been in school at the time I was in school there would have been some probably mean teacher yelling at her about the way she's holding the pencil and would have been probably unnecessary because she writes great it's just not the typical way my guess would be that people type the way they type and may or may not do it quote unquote correctly but if it's effective it's fine

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe you're right. And again, that's why I asked. I'm not I'm not trying to sound like I'm I'm like right or I know it's just interesting because I mean, I definitely for me, you know, by the time I taught myself the quote unquote proper way, like the way that is taught, I had been typing on a computer probably for, you know, like regularly for many years. Right. And so I had my whole system, and I didn't really think it was a problem. I didn't think of myself as a slow typer, and I don't know if somebody encouraged me or what it was, if I was just bored. But I started, you know, I took a week or two, and I went online. I'm like, okay, well, properly you hold your hands over, you know, that's why you have the little ridged buttons on the F and the J key. Those are your home keys where you put your index fingers, and then once you're used to that, you just learn where everything is from there. And it became, you know, it's not like I'm just trying to be a slave to the doctrine. it's just that it really was like oh wow like once you know like some very basic things like these are these are where your hand should naturally rest and then by that it unlocks the rest of the keyboard for you it i find it hard to believe that it's not the most efficient way but again maybe i'm just you know just a victim of the machine yeah i wonder because i

didn't really know how to type i took typing in you know middle school or high school or something A-S-D-F-J-K-L semicolon. You know what's funny is I was trying to do that from memory and I'm sitting in front of three keyboards. I could just have looked. Like literally

there are three keyboards. Did you say J-K-L

semicolon? A-S-D-F J-K-L

semicolon. Yeah, you're right. I don't know if I would have known that without looking down.

So I did all that but it didn't really click until I worked at public radio, until I worked at KUOW. Funnily enough, when I worked in conservative of talk radio less words being typed which i don't know if that indicates anything typing was not a big thing for me until i got to kuow and i was hunting and pecking and i was like you know imagine being a radio producer of a daily talk show and not being able to like fluidly type and it just was one of those things where you know it was it's like moving to mexico and only speaking rudimentary spanish and then needing to go to the store i just eventually like over the course of two weeks just crash coursed it and got really fast but to this day i don't know if i'm actually typing the quote-unquote correct way i'm just typing the way that uh the way that works for me do you want to do a typing test really fast on air would that be good radio i can't with my finger oh the guy oh the guy over here who didn't remember that cooking with sean de tory that time I'm going to move on. was cooking with Jen Flash Andrews forgot that you're have a broken two broken fingers that's

what yeah no that's what your policy on cheese that's why I was like again I'm I feel I'm not trying to be that guy who's like constantly be like reminding everybody don't forget you can't volunteer for the homeless because of your broken finger exactly I'm trying not to make any secret of it I had to get all of my shirts that say ask me why I'm a hero to change them so they say now Ask me why I'm a hero and how I broke my hand and how I'm doing. But, no, anyway, at some point I'd love to do that. I'm going to live moss for both of us.

I'm going to do a typing test. I'm at typingtest.com, and I'm starting a typing test. Let's take the test. Okay.

God, I'm legit jealous now because I actually love typing.

It's dangerous, but do, I'll return, do you know that there is a more, I can't believe people listen to this show, dangerous animal we can find on a, this is actually way harder to, this is like me getting that tattoo on air. Like, I can type pretty fast, but I can't type and try to be entertaining at the same time. So I'm just going to close it. Let's see if it will even give me an analyzing results. 42 words per minute, 87% accuracy.

I wonder what the average is. What did you say, 42 words per minute?

42 WPM. Again, on that podcast, the guy, John Green, was saying, I forget what the number he gave out was of what he can type. His point was he actually thinks in typing he thinks now, if that makes sense. like because he's been what he said again all I can say is please go listen to the podcast because it's much better than me re-describing it but he was saying how he really loved typing as a kid because he was like early internet adopter and he was a very anxious person and he and his handwriting was terrible he said so he liked the internet because he could type and nobody knew that he had bad handwriting nobody knew that he was an anxious kid it was just kind of this like real as Mr. Burns would say about chairs the great leveler And he really liked that And so he was saying how he's just always been really into typing And in fact he said typing was the first thing he was good at So when he was in class And they were doing typing It was the first thing he did That he was better than other people at And it really gave him a sense of confidence And I forget the words per minute That he gave out But when I heard that I was like I can probably beat that

Well first of all One quick thing before I tell you what the average professional I have the average professional type of speed I don't want to know

I did not put my best finger forward

It's 50 to 80 It's 50 to 80

You're below average professional typist Turning the mic off and I'm retaking the test I promise you Me and this typing test I can get that up That's what I'm saying

I'm legit jealous I would like to take this challenge with you I was going to say Isn't it amazing that we're having this conversation All about typing and typewriters And the Mr. Burns quote isn't it was the best of times it was the blurst of times it was actually the thing about sitting

like that's astounding to me when i sing see my vest that's when we know i've really missed the obvious opportunity of mr burns audio related to this topic yeah all right uh let's take a quick break and then when we come back we'll do the top stories and uh drops a stupider and music for your weekend i'm very excited about the song that i'm going to be playing today so uh definitely stick around for that oh and more typing talk and more mr burns drops that are unrelated to the typing

talk coming up we was hoping for some razzle dazzle razzle dazzle that's right man razzle

dazzle on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready ready go everybody rattle

maestro you scared me i actually went to i jumped i went to wait wait no word he's listening to the

music i left in all that fumbling and bumbling usually when i hit the wrong tape um i try to cut that out and clean it up a little bit i think it's you know it's kind of rare that i'm even in the position to do that but yesterday like i had to leave in all of my misfires because otherwise our conversation didn't make sense if i cleaned it up oh i'm sorry i was locking you into that no no it's fine i think it's fine i think the listeners are just like wow what a mess i was actually quite a mess yesterday yesterday was not my best show really yeah i didn't i didn't pick that up you didn't seem a mess yesterday oh god i couldn't remember edmund morris's name is it even edmund morris and did i get it right today it is you know you got it good morning good morning is It's still Thursday.

Let's thank Mike Farnan in West Hollywood. It's pronounced. Announced Cooperston, by the way. Hollywood Mike. Hollywood Mike. Mike, of course, is the person responsible for the Walsh Helm Scream and its recent addition to, what was it called? Pets 911 or something?

I think it was. Yeah. Calling All Pets. Wait, that was a real public radio show. It's Raining Cats and Dogs.

Wait, that was a show Sean Stewart had. Anyway, Mike is the audio mixer for many television and film projects He's in West Hollywood He says, hi, clump dogs Can you remind me of the clump dog?

No, I was hoping you could remember I know that it was something that we spoofed on I just can't remember

I'm thinking, by the way The line didn't go dead I'm thinking clump dogs

Clump dog millionaire? We had a show called Clump dog millionaire there but i don't know why clump dogs i mean you know i'm typing oh is a clump dog is that

that's not related to was it a baseball thing i was wondering if it was that coach that detroit lions coach who was talking about biting people's knees is it from drew mcgary is it from that's what it's from andrew what what what remember the friday motivation which was written by drew mcgary i believe in the voice of one of those overly hyped oh yes okay yes i believe he's

talking about his clump dogs that's yes i think that's it

mike i think you can see the value of this show and why it's worth donating to because we're occasionally able to remember a funny thing that drew mcgary wrote hi clump dogs thanks for keeping me company on my nightly walks through the eerily empty streets of hollywood thanks uh to the tens for being such a wonderful community uh thanks for the johnny and bobo dolls that my niece so loves To strip naked I am starting to think that might be a trend Yeah I think so too Do you think Riannon earbuds Earbuds How about earmuffs We have this Apparently we have a donor level on Livewire That's the earbud level I just learned about yesterday As I was reading various names on a video So I've got earbuds on the brain

Earmuffs It would be funny if you had an earmuff level And that's like where it's unedited And you guys are just like We would have

Earmuff level is a uniquely tbtl thing yeah we should actually do that as a thank you gift earmuffs so you can just wear them and not have to hear the show that'd be the most tbtl the most tbtl gift of all time uh anyway um uh mike says uh thanks to the tens for being such a wonderful community thanks to the johnny and bobo dolls oh the reason i said earmuffs riannon was because i was about to say Do you think that we are without meaning to be part of the sort of, if you will, sexual development of a certain amount of the American population? I don't mean me talking. I mean the Johnny Bobo.

I understand. I mean, if I'm to answer honestly, I think anybody, no matter what the age is, they look at any kind of depiction of you and me and they want to know what's under there. I just think that's a part of the human condition. I know you were just throwing something away on your desktop But I liked that I needed that for that joke You know what I did there Andrew

Because I'm a broadcast professional I'm getting some audio ready for the rest of Mike's message Is what you just heard happening Dragging it from one system to the next But what I did expertly was muted my microphone And did not mute the sound that comes out of my laptop So that you couldn't hear me reacting To what you said about the Johnny and Boba dolls but you were able to hear me dragging the Walsh Helm scream over to my other system.

I was wondering if you were going to call that up because I could also just do it. Do you want to continue reading before I totally throw this off?

Yeah, exactly. But I like this experiment. I like where we're going with this. And most of all, thanks for the gift that keeps on giving. The Walsh Helm scream. Yeah! I intentionally did a bad job there, Andrew, because I don't want to step on your impression of yourself. But Mike said Typed yeah

He even said I'm curious if that last word will be rendered as a version Of the Walsham Scream or if Luke will go Adam Duritz on it Neither Mike and that's why you keep donating

Because we continue to surprise you

There was a little Duritz in there Drops of Duritz you don't think a little bit

Well I mean if I was going full Duritz it would be

Yeah But I didn't do that

Again I just i love that we can still keep listener mike guessing after all these years and all these donations okay now wait okay let's hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on calm down this is everybody just take a chill pill how are we going to do this because i do have the walsh album scream ready to go i want to is it should you do it and then i'll play it or should we try to pepsi challenge it is there a way Is there a way to activate it and have the listeners not know if it's the tape or if it's you?

Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, but then how do we communicate that? That's the problem. That's the part I didn't think through.

Okay. Maestro? On your mark. Here's what's going to happen. I'm going to say three, two, one. Either do the scream or don't do the scream. And then I'm going to play the audio.

Wait, you are going to play?

You're definitely playing. I am going to play. Wait, or I'm not going to play. I don't know.

We don't know.

It's unclear.

Okay.

So I'm going to go three, two, one. Okay. I'm either going to play the audio or not play it. And you're either going to do the scream or not do it. And the listeners will have to figure it out.

Okay. Give me a beat here. Because just like whistling. I'm pretty drunk right now, by the way. I can't whistle when I'm laughing. What's in that Topo Chico? I can't whistle when I'm laughing. I can't do the Walsh Helm scream. Okay. Everybody just think of something serious. Okay. Oh, too serious. Okay. Wait.

Think of Mother England Okay here we go Three Two One I think that was the tape It was the tape That's crazy How did How did the listeners guess Thank you Mike Maestro

On your mark On your mark Get set Get set Now ready Ready Go Everybody rattle

We've also got to thank We get to thank We also have the privilege of thanking Anne Keating of Keene, New Hampshire

Yeah! Can I say this?

Was that you or was that the tape?

I don't know Anne has been a ride or die with us for a very long time now And one of our long-standing New Hampshire listeners The first listener I knew from New Hampshire I don't think I've ever had the privilege of meeting Anne in person But we correspond quite a bit, and it's great to see her in the Dazzling Donors.

That is absolutely true. Anne has been in it for longer than a minute. And Anne says, of course, we all know what the past year has wrought. I want to thank Andrew, Luke, and the amazing community of TENS for helping each other through it. Interesting she started with you, Andrew, or did you rearrange that? Did you go in and edit that?

Oh, I'm sorry. Are you in Anne pen pals, too? I think we have a New Hampshire bond

Well that's That's why she That's why she centers you in the narrative Andrew I want to thank the amazing community of 10s For helping all of us through this The 10s helping 10s website was brilliant And allowed us to care for others When it was most needed Shout out to Heather Kravick For my beautiful hat I did a thing there, Andrew. I assumed that Heather's last name is of Polish origin. And if it is from Eastern Europe, they do tend to go with the V sound for the W.

And the CH sound for the C.

So I just kind of, I called an audible there. Omaha, Omaha, Blue 42. I called an audible on Heather's last name, and I hope it was correct.

It sounds like the last name of a Mariner's pitcher, for real.

Oh, is that who they put in last night?

Yeah, I'm still embarrassed, and I still can't remember whether our starting pitcher is Miskevich or Mishevitz, because we have them both.

It's a Meshugana, whatever it was.

It is.

As I did last year, I'd like to call attention to something very dear to my heart. Size Fund is an organization that helps young adults age 18 to 39 who are facing the challenges of cancer. They assist in funding their creative passions. Other than podcasting size fund, we don't need any more podcasters. Honestly, at this point, there's already too many. It helps with their artistic passions, their pursuits and hobbies, as well as integrative therapies such as acupuncture, reflexology and therapeutic massage. They have created a beautiful community of supporters who have helped run their annual golf tournament, Rock, Paper, Scissors competition. Where do we land on that, Andrew? I'm always going to go rock, but you're going to think that I'm not? Or what was it? There was one that you had a strategy that actually sounded pretty.

Yeah, and I don't know if I've blown it now, but for a long time, I would always do paper first because I feel like the instinct is to start with rock. Is that right? No, wait.

Well, I mean, I always go rock. You said always start paper because there's something about us. I think we probably, as humans, we tend to think of rock as being something that's strong.

And it's kind of satisfying to throw your fist out there, although I feel like it's also satisfying to throw.

Paper is the least satisfying to throw. You're right. So, I mean, I think – oh, shit. But I'm trying to – did I mention it? Can we short –

Can we short Rock? Is Rock a publicly traded stocking? Can we short it like GameStop?

I think Rock's an NFT.

Because I think you just figured out a market inefficiency. I think you're totally right about this. Paper feels kind of namby-pamby to throw. Rock feels real like, oh, yeah, I'm throwing this Rock. Which means there's probably an opportunity to buy on paper. Can we long paper and short Rock? I think so. Long paper, short Rock. Wait a second.

Is that Morse code?

Is that a cake song? back to Ann's very heartfelt message that she paid good money for related to teens with cancer they have a they've created a beautiful community of supporters who have helped run their annual golf tournament rock paper scissors competition and would that be a five tenths K yes a .5 K yes yes I like it and scavenger hunt now that's a race I can get into

Wait, no, that would just be half K

0.5K Oh, it's half of a K So that's like three blocks Probably, yeah Because a K is less than a mile Yeah And half of a K would then be I think of a mile as being 12 blocks, right? Oh, I didn't know that

I didn't have that in my head

It might be wrong And it might be why I'm constantly Screwing up driving things even when i have ways going this happened to me yesterday i was going to something related to the tbtl-a-thon andrew and i was at a critical juncture in portland driving with people people who live here will know what i'm talking about i was on uh 405 and it was this moment where i could either go right and go get routed to beaverton through this crazy tunnel and all this traffic coming back or i could continue straight and go where i was trying to go and because i don't really understand how far 0.2 miles is or whatever i always i'm real trigger happy with the turns when i'm on ways if that makes any sense i always think that like it wants me to turn even though it's telling me it's still 600 feet you want to turn too early i want to turn too early my fear and this is probably somehow related to my personality my fear is that my fear of not turning when I'm supposed to is so elevated that I turn early like in other words I'm so afraid of missing my turn that I turn prematurely okay yes so I'm like going to talk to Dr. Arakaki so I'm driving to this spot to interface With this thing that everybody will be hearing About what next week is that when we're announcing it Yeah next week yeah When I was going to visit a thing that's Related to the upcoming TBTL-a-thon Which will be announced on Monday we're very excited

A lot of big plans

I was going to Astoria It's the guy from Goonies That's what I was visiting I always want to call him Chunk but that's not His name is Sloth I believe It's Sloth from Goonies He's going to host the show for the TBTL-a-thon

People are going to be disappointed no matter what

we do people i know you're right yeah that was a that was really a bad like promise to make that i can't keep uh nobody from goonies or any other childhood movie is going i watched that the other day in a hotel somewhere kind of stands up does it yeah it's well i wasn't a goonies head uh as a kid it would just didn't have that impact on me that it had on a lot of people um but watching it i was i mean you know it's full of all of the it's kind of racist right yeah right exactly it's full of all of the missteps that movies from that era are full of but but generally speaking i thought

it was actually pretty entertaining i've been doing some math over here all about city blocks

and feet and everything i want to yeah what have you found out are you done with your story there

no i'm not even started okay here's what here's what i find most surprising about the adventure i just went on while i was half listening to you city blocks i always think of them as squares but they're actually rectangles so it says and Of course, it depends on the city, but it says the standard block in Manhattan is about 264 by 900 feet. In Chicago, a typical city block is 330 by 660 feet. So when you measure something by blocks, it depends on whether or not you're walking on a street or an avenue, whether you're going the long way or the short way around these blocks.

But if I just take this vital information that it's taken me 45 years of life to get to, I'm not even kidding. I've never taken the time to Google this, but this thought has occurred to me so many times because when i was a kid somebody told me oh a mile is about 12 blocks but i always would think yeah but blocks some of them are long and some of them are short that can't be how it works

yeah i mean but it is it is very complicated but then i took what were the numbers that so so we we convert converted I don't I can't show my work but I converted half a kilometer into feet and then then divided and by like 300 so it was like 1640 feet divided by 300 feet let's saying that that's about the size of a short end of a block that would be 5.5 blocks half a kilometer is 5.5 short

blocks okay so that's what they're doing over at sid's place when they do their half k run if you know someone who fits this demographic and again because it's been so long since we started and's message i will remind folks these are young adults age 18 to 39 who are facing the challenges of cancer i like that 39 is considered young adult because that was only six years ago for me yeah

i know so you're a young old adult yeah man you see me skateboarding on the internet yesterday I did, but, you know, I didn't have the volume turned up, so I didn't hear. I can't remember if it was a GIF or a video, but somebody had retweeted something. It was a GIF.

We got to get through Ann's message. Excuse me. If you know someone who fits this demographic, please encourage them to reach out to SIDS, or excuse me, SIS Fund, SIS Fund, which is S-Y-S Fund dot org. That is S-Y-S and then the word fund dot org to submit an application. The Size Fund team would love to help. Maestro? Wait. That's you. Oh, that's me.

You scared me.

Hello and welcome to Top Story. By the way, I was skateboarding on the internet yesterday because I have started a trend that I don't really feel great about with these live wire. We're doing a membership drive over on my other radio job, and they have me record these videos thanking folks who have become members of the LiveWire donating community. And when in doubt, I just get on a skateboard in my house and do things, which I've done for TBTL videos. and uh so the first video i did i was skateboarding down the hall in my house and trying to read every name on this list uh which was just because i have very limited a very limited number of creative ideas in my head and they are basically three things one is skateboarding one is talking about my being a teen father uh and i can't remember the third but anyway i so i set this precedent and so i was they needed me to do another video yesterday and i was trying to think what to do And I went to where we do Livewire from in the Alberta Arts District of Portland, Andrew. And my original concept was, I'll just do something standing in front of the theater where we are going to be doing live shows once again this fall. But then I had this thought as I was driving over there, which is, I was on a skateboard earlier, so it may be funny if I was on a Lime scooter or one of those rental scooters.

Yeah, I'm seeing more of those around Seattle, too, now, finally.

Portland is replete with them. That means there's a lot of them, right?

That's what I think. That's how I took it.

There are tons of them in Portland. I mean, there are literally like, on a clear day, you can see them in the Willamette River. People throw them off of bridges. They're just everywhere. They are ubiquitous in Portland. And, of course, I go to the Alberta Arts District, and it's the one, like, six-block area where there are no rental scooters. So, luckily, I had my skateboard in the car. And so, I continue with this skateboarding kind of theme. But I was very The reason I didn't want to skateboard in the video initially Was because I didn't want people to watch it with the sound Off and think I was trying to show off about Skateboarding I wanted people to know that I'm In on the joke that I'm An old man and that Much like much like that woman Who carried a skateboard into a high school in Florida Recently to try to pump up her Instagram Followers like I Understand like for me Being on a skateboard is an ironic gesture And so But my concern was that People will just see it on the internet in passing, and they will then just think, oh, this guy thinks he's good at skateboarding or thinks it conveys something youthful about him. And so then I retweeted it. When Livewire tweeted the video, I retweeted it to try to contextualize it, saying this is as far as I can safely skateboard, which is totally true. Like I skateboarded for probably maybe 0.2 kilometers. How many blocks is that? Yeah, I'll figure it out. What is a quarter of the butt end of a block?

The corridor, so 300, what's that, is 175 feet?

So that is the amount of feet that I skateboarded. By the way, if I'm seeming distracted, it's because, Andrew, I tried to take a picture of this yesterday and send it to you. You know, there's that construction project that's going on in my field of vision. The walking bridge? Not that. That work has apparently completely ceased on that. The Earl Blumenauer pedestrian cycle. bridge but there is this uh like a presumably condos or apartments or whatever that they've been building i told you it's like about five guys building it yeah um not the burger i was gonna say maybe they're built wouldn't it be ironic if they're building they do let you throw peanuts on the floor of the construction site so that's kind of cool um it's about five dudes making this building which is insane to watch like at the end of the year this building will be done thanks to these five dudes and you and i will just have been doing meaningless podcasts the whole time they will have built something that will stand presumably for a decade we will have done this god damn it we're building community yes we are you know what we absolutely are um and and and as evidenced by the kindly donations from the dazzling donors today including mike and ann um but anyway they have this huge crane it turns out most of working on a construction site andrew is airlifting or using the crane to lift porta potties to the top floor yes i've seen project yes yes indeed it's just all day long i mean i don't know how much these guys are shitting but all day long they're flying new porter potties by way of crane up to the the top floor and again you know what this seems like hard work what these guys are doing they're building a building there's just five of them they're allowed to shit as much as they want in my opinion but it's amazing how often they do have to bring new porter potties up but here's my point the crane a couple of things have been happening uh there i don't know if they're doing some work on it but yesterday there was a guy just walking out on so i mean people know what a crane looks like right like a construction crane it turns out it has an extremely long long long long long i don't know structure to it not the part that's going from the ground up but the part that's actually going you know sort of um horizontally and there was a guy just walking around on the outer edge of this crane that's like 300 feet in the sky oh my god and it was giving me andrew and i'm not that afraid of heights it was giving me a butthole pucker by the way that is a new uh hard lemonade that you can get from the um truly people truly butthole pucker the teens love it yeah they do anyway i i was watching this guy just walk around out there and he did not appear to have any safety gear on and i was it was freaking me out i took a picture of it it was so far away that it wasn't going to work to send to you but anyway he's back out there just wing walking just freaking wing walking and uh anyway that's why i stopped uh my riveting story about whatever it was i was talking

about uh earlier so anyway let's uh wait don't say that's just our new thing confused um all right let's talk about something that feels extremely relevant right now but will be old news by the time most people hear this Andrew once local laws catch up to speed with the CDC guidelines you and I apparently will be able to walk into a bar, restaurant, movie theater what have you maskless how does that news strike you?

Well I'm just confused Ron the fact that I think your name is Ron really proves how confused I am Good morning I was reading something today I almost sent it to you as a story But I scanned it and it didn't seem like there was a lot in there That we don't already intellectually know Or instinctively know but there's a story And I think Vanity Fair today or something About how families Just create their own languages And like you know You and I do this on the show And then I'm not totally not answering your question But you know Genevieve and I we have so We just said something yesterday where we said a word that was based on an inside joke we don't even remember from 20 goddamn years ago, but it's just like our language now, right? And just like the way you and I, like, I can't say I'm confused without saying this is so confusing, Ron. Anyway, maybe we should have done that as a top story. I'm so confused, Ron. Like, I want the CDC to be honest, and for the most part I trust the CDC and I trust this administration, But I don't understand why. I don't understand why this is a I don't understand this messaging right now, because now there are headlines all over the country. I swear I don't have Stockholm syndrome. This isn't like I want to. But, you know, I don't want good news. I want to live in the pandemic forever. I swear that's not where I am. I'm excited for things to reopen. But I am very confused because we haven't reached herd immunity and it's unlikely we will. So I don't think that that means, OK, we'll wear masks or have mask mandate laws forever. But like the governor here in Washington says, OK, you don't have to wear masks indoors around people anymore if you're vaccinated. But I don't think that means he's changing the law because.

what does that mean for for restaurants now because who's vaccinated and who isn't it just means nobody's gonna wear a mask i'm just confused about what this means and what we're supposed to

do with this this is my quibble excuse me this is my quibby with this with all of the writing around i mean all the reporters i guess can do is report what the cdc said but it's all predicated on the idea that people who for whatever reason have declined to become vaccinated or to get vaccinated are now going to just on the honor system self-report that they're not vaccinated right these are people who didn't think the pandemic or covid19 was real in the first place so all of it is if you've been vaccinated you can you know and then oh there's like you know the asterisk or the caveat that's always like well of course for non-vaccinated people it's like you have to do all of the regular things that they were already not doing presumably well honestly this is gonna

sound real ass kissy but um i when i heard this news yesterday i wanted to make a point of watching chris's show because i really trust him on this stuff and of course he was i trust him on you know and i trust him basically on anything that is information based um but uh especially with you know he was ringing the bell so early and so loud about how we had to take this pandemic more seriously than we were as a culture and as a nation and as a government and he's just been

and for the record i thought he was being a bummer he used it really early and i proved to be right

right pandemic was not a big deal he was being a bummer wait can't he be right and also a bummer yeah i'm talking to you chris no um i uh but i didn't listen to this in a hot tub right now i wasn't sure if i should say that or not i wasn't sure if we're allowed to Pardon me

I want to see him do the show from the hot tub Just like Just the camera I mean honestly he could conceivably do that Because I don't think that they show below the waist On television

Yeah you really got me I wasn't sure if we were allowed to discuss the

I mean we're not but I'm just saying We'll find out if you listen this far into the show

Right anyway did you watch his show last night

I actually did not have a chance to catch it What did he say

I didn't watch it Did you see the sky writing over the Willamette I didn't like the end. That's why, I mean, you're such a P1, I thought for sure you could tell me what he said. Well, I do DVR it, so, no joke, so I can go back, because, like, that is a perspective that I would like on this. Somebody who, right, has been so cautious and has taken this so seriously, but I'm reading this news, and again, like, no, I'm happy, like, I want things to reopen. Of course, I'm not trying to be, like, a bummer myself and be like, well, I don't know, I don't know if we can trust this, but, like, it just seems, it just seems tonally so so different and it just yeah and the fact that there's people like so many people in the medical community and in the scientific community who are shocked by this and not even people saying that they're it's wrong they're just saying i'm just really shocked by this and and a lot of and then of course like there's the labor issue unions representing people who uh come in contact with the public are kind of upset by this saying like whoa whoa like what is what is this based on and how do we what are you going to leave it up to target to have people show their vaccine cards when they walk through the door of the store like it just seems a little i don't know confusing and muddled i would have liked better cleaner guidelines

interesting i did not see this being your take um but it's an interesting one because you're right i mean it the i guess the problem if you will in quotes now is that it's just going to be a free-for-all like i'm vaxxed you're vaxxed most of the people probably listen to the show at this point are vaxxed but there's no way to tell us apart from somebody who just never thought it was a real thing anyway in let's say a target and so now it's i mean i i mean but i'll say this the cdc wasn't even i said the cdc i've been saying the cdc the whole time i'm assuming that's where

that yeah the cdc released their guidelines yesterday and then um you know like i know that here in washington the governor then then updated some policies here although he did not repeal the mask mandate but he did announce that did you see this washington state's going to like

basically i don't live in washington i don't live in the past when i get a new car i ripped the

rearview mirror off uh but anyway he i think he's saying end of june thing like june 30th will be the last day of of the shutdown as we know it now and i yeah my understanding is just going to just that's it fully opened again i don't know if that affects the mask law though you know i just i don't

know kate brown the governor of oregon the state i currently live in andrew if you didn't get the memo yeah uh says i heard it's like new york and portland it's portland is dying andrew um she said that when we get to um i think it's like uh i forget the exact stat but basically it's like the amount the percentage of oregonians that need to be vaccinated uh everything there's like all of the pandemic rules are basically repealed and she said that's going to happen in june so i mean that's just i mean i want to be careful because i tend to think that the people who like this show tbtl that is and who are listening right now are probably people who are fairly in their heads like this just oh i think this show only appeals to people who are at some level i don't i don't know if deep thinker is the right way to describe it but like i just tend to think that we have a lot of listeners who are also the kind of people who are going to have a particularly difficult time retiring the pandemic rules there was a really interesting article yesterday in the atlantic i mean i've been seeing a whole bunch of them now there was one in vice saying uh we're not addicted to masks we're traumatized saying that for people probably like me who've been like oh god every people are masked people are double masked sitting in a park in portland 20 feet apart from someone outside even though they're vaxxed that to me doesn't seem scientific right like we were and i'm speaking of liberals we were the science people initially and now some of us are being the non-science people and it's probably because of anxiety right anyway the the article in vice was saying basically a good rule of thumb which is just give everybody a minute like just if people need if this is how people are you know sort of re-acclimating and they need to wear a mask because it kind of just like it's it's how they're stepping down off of the anxiety from the pandemic it's like what's the harm which is a good point but anyway there's another piece in the atlantic kind of along the same line saying that they they polled people who self-reported as extremely liberal and those were also the people who were having the hardest time coming to terms with the fact that they can go places without a mask now because it was the the mask was tied up in so I mean in the way that the right politicized it the left we also politicized it me wearing a mask was very much a statement about how much I didn't like Donald Trump you know and also that I didn't want to get COVID or give it to someone but it the mask has taken on and you can kind of extend that out to all of the behaviors obeying the quote-unquote rules around the pandemic was a way to indicate that you were a person who believed in science and didn't believe in donald trump and it was a whole personality type and i think it's going to be

challenging for some people to kind of put that personality type down and i would guess that that

tends to have a large venn diagram overlap with our listeners that's interesting i don't necessarily see it that way but it's not that you're wrong uh or i'm not i'm not trying to make the claim that you're wrong it's just if you're saying i'm wrong you're saying the atlantic is wrong I don't think you're ready to pick that fight. Genevieve used to work at the Atlantic. Did you know that? Well, she was, I guess, an intern there. Anyway, I don't know why I needed to say that. I'm just proud of her.

You're saying some of your best friends work at the Atlantic. You can't be racist.

I can say that. I can say the Atlantic's wrong. No, here's what I was going to say. I never wore my mask as a political statement. I never wore my mask in, like, protest to the president or the president's followers. Consciously? No.

Is it possible subconsciously?

Because I'm not around those people. Because you're from Trump? I live in Seattle proper. You know what I mean? Like, I always wore my mask, even at the times that I didn't want to. And it's amazing how my relationship with masks, I was very, I was on the more extreme end of people who were uncomfortable. wearing masks at the beginning of this I really didn't like it it somehow tapped into these weird uncomfortable feelings I have about this doesn't make sense I'm not don't make me try to explain this it doesn't make sense but in the same way I don't like to wear body paint or makeup or dress up for Halloween there was some even though I knew this was a health imperative for others I did not like wearing masks i found the whole thing uncomfortable i and and somehow everybody looking at everybody's masks it was a change for me that made me very uncomfortable however i did it i'm thinking back to some things though like we had our landlord come over here to fix like the dishwasher how many times can i refer back to that one event but i remember he came in and i was like i didn't wear a mask when he was here he wore a mask the whole time but i was like well you're in our apartment like he it's either in the air here or it's not and now I look back on that and he must have thought I was a trumpster or something like if my if a landlord came into my apartment even now I would if somebody's dropping off food I put on a mask and I I wonder if how much I made him uncomfortable by not wearing a mask when he was in my house but um anyway point is I was a little bit slow to get comfortable with him

mask now it's so instinctive if i go to take the garbage out i grab a mask and i put it on and then i'm like wait i didn't need to put on a mask i'm not even walking out to the street it's just like going outside grab the mask i just do it and it doesn't make me as uncomfortable there's a pile

i have a pile of masks on the table that's right by the front door of my place for that exact thing it's just like it's it's like your keys you just is part although today andrew i went and got a cup of coffee and didn't realize until I was outside that I didn't have my mask oh I almost

did that the grocery store the other day but before I get too far away from this just to complete my point so I was somebody who was very uncomfortable with a mask but did wear it when I thought appropriate outside it was less if it wasn't just me totally believing I'm protecting myself and others it was way more about me showing the people around me like I was too ashamed to not wear a mask it would be that like I didn't want people looking at me and thinking that I didn't care about them because i so but it wasn't it wasn't as tied into the left right divide as much for me and so i think that people who are who don't want to take it off like me it's not about like i still feel like i was in pro mask camp and now it's hard for me to give up the war so much as it's just more of a like i want to make sure that people don't think i'm an asshole

sort of yeah i guess that that's so you're saying it's it's human to human as opposed to a political statement i would maybe argue that it's still subconsciously part of the whole thing which is in saying to people i care about you i'm going to wear this mask on some very maybe subterranean level it's also a statement about science versus non-science or you know right versus left i guess or mask versus anti-mask but but i hear what you're saying for me it was and i you know obviously i live in portland it's probably pretty similar to seattle where it would be unconscionable to be in public in portland without a mask um so it's like but i will tell you that when i was traveling for work and in other places there certainly were times where i would be wearing a mask and i could tell that people were taking it as some kind of insult

to them that i was masked or that you were like i'm going to use that word that i think a lot of people don't like but in their parlance they saw you as a cuck of the system or something right is that the right maybe i'm using that wrong i mean it depends on your definition of cuck yeah yeah definitely let's just have this conversation now because i'm already deeply

embarrassed well let me put it this way i wasn't letting my mask have sex with a different mask

while i watched i know that that's where that originally came from but i mean it in the more modern sense of i mean i know what right i know it comes from owning of the libs but the owning of the libs and just being like oh you're just you're just like you just are doing this because you're you're biden's and pelosi's told you to and like that whole this whole phenomenon we're talking about now where you say the people on the left are reluctant to give it up whatever the whether it's more political or the statement they're putting out there about health and caring about others or just like me not wanting other people to think i'm a jerk um it really plays into the stereotypes of the people who just think that you know liberals are cocks

well it's been complicated too because to be totally honest with you some of the things that the cdc and other health officials have asked us to do turned out to probably not necessarily have to happen i understand why they asked us to do it because again it's like what's the downside like we're much better safe than sorry yes and that's been It's been a weird experience to kind of see like just absolute chodes like Tucker Carlson, some of the things that they were saying three weeks ago about like kids masking in public or whatever. Like, seeing things that, like, again, I couldn't be more opposed to the presidency of Donald Trump and also the MAGA cult that was spawned from it or maybe that created it. But it's weird to see how much we are now just kind of dropping things that we were told two weeks ago were just absolutely vital. Yeah. And that's kind of a bit of a mind, that's a bit of a mind chode for me.

Well, I mean, do keep in mind.

I mean, the mind show.

No, it cannot be. Nobody's going to even know why. I'm cutting. Not even on a Friday. It's showed Friday.

It's showed o'clock somewhere.

Shut up. Can that be? No, it can't be. But well, but also keep in mind, this is it's it wasn't all false. It's because of the vaccination rates. And, you know, so, I mean, there is a new factor.

down our groceries or masking outside yeah like the masking outside thing i don't think that that's because of vaccination i think it's just because there's just not very much evidence of the virus

traveling well outdoors between people so things like that like you know all of the jogging that i was doing with a mask on was essentially unnecessary now again i would rather that i did that and if there you know i'd much rather err on the side of caution with this stuff but it's just been kind of crazy to feel like like i to just how do i put it i am somebody who was took it very i think i took it pretty seriously the guidelines and now i am so ready to freaking drop the guidelines and so when i see somebody who's double masked up outside i need to really work on my thought process because that on some level kind of grinds my gears right now and it shouldn't because if they need to do that they need to do that and it's fine

i actually am kind of running out of time for today's show because i've got a lot to do And I have an appointment later. Good morning. But there's just so much to say here. That's why I had a feeling that once we got on this topic. But I think there's part of me that you will chalk up to me being a Browns fan. Just trying to figure out if I should say this on Friday.

Can you cancel your two o'clock? Can you cancel your two o'clock? Two o'clock? That would have been a decent joke if I actually got it off correctly the first time.

But what I'm about to say is very negative and pessimistic, and I apologize for it. But there has been a part of me that has felt for a long time during this pandemic that this might not be the last pandemic that I see in my lifetime. Sure. I mean, I don't know, you know, and it's been 100 years since the last one. I don't know why I think, but it's just living through this thing that I, I can't even say I never thought it would happen because I couldn't even imagine it. And so and also we just sort of see weird things sort of it's just sort of seems like, you know, the past several years, it just seems like things just get worse and worse and worse. And maybe part of me, again, it's part of that psychological thing because we've all been through something. It's like sort of collective PTSD. But I'm still worried that we're going to all rip off our masks and then and then it's going to we're going to have wave number five or six rip through the country and we're going to go back. You know what I mean? I think there's there's also that for me. I just want to make sure that everything is done right because I don't want to do this again. I would you know, I would live in this phase three with 20. No, with 50 percent capacity at restaurants. Well, also, it's me. Right. Like I hate crowded bar. So it works out pretty well. You'd vote for zero percent capacity if it could be arranged. I don't understand why we can't have bars that only me and my friends are allowed in. But, you know, I think that's what it is for me a little bit. Like, I just want to make sure that they're doing it right. It's it's it's even less about like, you know, them, the people on the other side of the political spectrum, not believing more science because they they felt like this is all bullshit. Like the fact that things are reopening now is partially due to the science and the precautions that we were that were taken, you know. Now I'm just sort of babbling. But I think that's where my hesitancy is. This almost PTSD reaction to I don't want to go through this again. So make sure that you know what you're talking about.

Right. But at a core level, what you're expressing is a certain mistrust in the wisdom of the scientists who are now telling us it's OK to take the mask off because you're thinking, well, maybe they don't know about the fifth wave or maybe they don't know about covid-21, you know, right.

I mean, that's kind of, I guess, I guess that is, I guess that is what I'm saying, although that doesn't, it doesn't feel like that's what I'm saying, which is weird. I just, I'm just, I think that I'm, we just all have a little trauma right now. And this is how it's manifesting in me, because I do trust the experts. And I don't, I don't believe that there's any kind of ulterior motive here. I don't think that, like, President Biden is pushing the CDC to release statements so that he can have better poll numbers. I don't know if that's even a conspiracy theory. I just assume it is. Well, now it is. I don't think that, you know, I think that people like Inslee and Brown down in Oregon. You live in Oregon now, right? I'm on the border. Yeah. I can see Washington from my house. But I think that they I trust them a lot because they just took this so seriously and they were so careful. So, yeah, I mean, call me any of those terrible names we were saying before. But when Inslee takes off his mask and says, Andrew, it's OK, you can take off your mask. I mean, I do trust him. I don't think there are ulterior motives there. But I do think that maybe I will maintain a certain kind of reserve anxiety about whether or not, you know, we're going to roll back again. And I really don't want to do that. Yeah, I mean, I think that makes logical sense.

And I think a lot of people are experiencing that. I think the way that I. process things is is just a bit different in that although it's funny because like i've this is privilege on my part i've never been that worried about getting the virus myself like it just wasn't something that i was afraid i mean i didn't want to get it but it wasn't like i didn't stay up at night thinking oh god what would it be like if i got covid my guess was i would have it it would not be great but then i would survive it based on age and things like that but i have so i have it's funny because like basically i'm ready to just i'm ready to open a kissing booth down on freaking that's also because i'm lonely but i'm like i am ready to fully re-engage with normal life but here's the funny part i am also deeply embarrassed about being the first person seen re-engaging with normal life in other words the reason that i came back up into my apartment and got a mask and went back down to get coffee this morning because i'm still out of coffee by the way with stevia today because i still have no splenda just broke you down it's just funny because uh you know you think i would just carve out four minutes of my life to go get more splenda but no what i will do now is just drink stevia until something changes but anyway um it's weird because i i am both like i'm not you in that i am worried about low-key worried about the sort of lack of something that some part of the story that we don't know like i just assume that if the cdc is telling us it's okay to do something it's okay and they've thought out every possible um scenario which based on the track record is not necessarily a given you know they're human beings this new michael lewis book uh is about the pandemic and it talks a lot about the cdc and basically that cdc is kind of not very good at controlling diseases even though it's in the name like people that actually work in in public health and epidemiology uh at the local level take a pretty dim view of the cdc it turns out they're sort of the center for documenting diseases so when a disease happens they come in and study it uh but they're not great at the prevention side according to this the people interviewed in this one michael lewis book but anyway called virus ball it's called the blind virus possible show title i don't know it's either that or um i have and don't and you don't believe in a therapist oh that's pretty good too i was thinking maybe on the chode come on it's like a jack kerouac joke i don't know anyway um i tend to believe the cdc and i and i tend to just like be a person who is a sort of what do we somebody said this i think in a book or uh i heard it somewhere about being basically someone being um high tolerance for risk have a very high tolerance for risk so all of that being sort of stated i

also went back and got my mask today to performatively wear it going into a coffee shop because even though and of course there is still the law in portland right yeah it is whatever it is and i want to obey those laws but in my brain in my non-rule followy brain i'm and my my high my high tolerance for risk brain i'm like it's fine for me to go in this coffee shop with no mask at this point i'm double vaxxed that person's double vaxxed we've beat this thing down to a you know a pretty decent level but my not wanting to seem like i'm that guy is stronger in me so that i came back up and got a mask and i mean i guess i i could have like pulled my t-shirt up over my face which you know also annoys me when people do that which is so weird because it's like i'm saying that we probably don't all need to be as masked up as we've been and yet when someone's just pulling their shirt up i'm like really you're right that's really your solution to this get a

freaking clue that's just absolute stupidity is this the last day of round two of the drops of stupid it is in fact we're gonna do two matchups today and then we're gonna let you vote over the weekend and then on monday we should have results and on monday we can tell you who survived round two and then i think we're gonna see a pretty short list um i can't do the math in right now because I don't have the chart in front of me, but we'll have a pretty short list of survivors if we're going to stick with that language, which I don't think we should. Okay, so let's go with either cucks or chokes. Come on. We've got to get out of this show. It's only getting worse by the minute.

You don't even have something to get to. You just want to be done with me saying chokes.

No, I was supposed to meet Phyllis for lunch, and I said, well, it's got to be a late lunch at 2, but it's already 1.30 now. It takes me an hour to post the show, and I'm getting more meetings stacked up in front of me as we're doing the show. Stuff related that has to be done for the thon that's coming up, so there's no wiggle room. Please do not look me into those meetings. No, so now our lunch is now looking more like 4 o'clock. Anyway. Should I text Phyllis? I texted her before the show. She knows I'm running late. So.

Okay, here's the deal. The two matchups today. Are you ready for this? Yeah. Luke's boat disaster story. I'm holding myself by my fingertips.

Hanging there in midair, like slightly above the water. And I'm just thinking to myself, well, this is how this ends. Versus Luke's pants pooping story. It was an explosion. It was a massive, massive, massive situation.

It was a massive, massive situation.

If only I would have shit my pants on the boat. I feel like we would have really achieved TBTL.

It really could have saved some time. So there you go. You can vote on that one on today's show page at tbtl.net. You can vote on all of them, actually, at today's show page. By the way, your boat story beat out the Just a Minute Ron story pretty significantly, Although that took that wrong. I had never heard that original just a minute. No, it's a crazy story. It's actually really. It was actually very good. Yeah. And then the pants pooping story at the Kingdome beat Jen's Y2K prep story. Another really great story. That one was more of a nail biter there. Really dark day for Jen. I know. Got to say goodbye to those segments.

Absolutely booted from the tournament.

However, Luke, you know what? Jen's still in it because the next matchup pits Jen.

Cooking with Jen Datori. Luke, it was branded? Why did you tell me that? Why did you tell me that? I will now wield that cudgel against you for the rest of your life.

It was branded as cucking with Sean. Why can't that be a show title? You know why that can't be a show title. Cucking with Sean. I don't even know how we're going to post this show without going up against FCC violations. All right. We have this next matchup is Jen being stuck at a wedding in a very awkward way.

She said, well, I mean, our kid's getting married tomorrow. We have relatives in every corner of the house. There's not really anywhere for you to stay. So I said, could I stay down here?

In the basement. And that is going up against my little story about thinking I'd been upgraded to first class. But I look around and there's somebody sitting in my seat and I'm kind of like, I hold up the thing. I'm like, hey, I'm supposed to be up here. He's like, but I just got paged. I'm up here. I'm like, what's your name? We both say at the same time, Andrew Walsh. There you go. It's Luke versus Luke and a Jen versus Andrew. No, actually, I don't. I vote. I'm going to vote for Jen. I'm not even just saying that. I don't think that I listen back to that Andrew first class story and it's not well told. I'm talking a mile a minute. It's just not.

Listen, I think that story is superior because it tracks with your experience in the world.

It is a funny incident.

Jen's life is not sleeping under ping pong tables at weddings. It was a crazy thing that happened to her. But the fact that you thought you were going to kick that first class football, finally, and then it was pulled away from you.

Charlie Brown style.

Not that your life has been about trying to get to first class. Again, one of the many things I really admire about you is that, unlike me, you tend to just kind of like bloom where you're planted, to use that reference again this week. And I like that you don't spend as much time in your own head trying to completely create this experience for yourself like I do. So it's not like your whole life has been about trying to get up to first class. But there's just something about you, the one time when you think it's happening, being a different Andrew Walsh. I don't know. that to me is just that is that is a beautiful story i love that story and i will say i had

forgotten about this part this there were a couple of other things that almost make the story seem made up this was the flight where i actually was on the phone with like three different organizations trying to figure out why they kept putting me at a window seat when i didn't want a window seat and we're in minnesota so i actually was trying to advocate for myself in the story and where i ended up was an aisle seat that i wanted but literally in the very last row of the airplane and so it wasn't like i was kind of little bit behind first class i was as far back in that goddamn airplane as you can get and i had to wheel my bag all the way to first class and then like you say like charlie brown wheel it all the way back but um so that is listeners you

know your job let me tell you please advance that story to the next round at tbtl.net let me tell

you what got knocked out though um uh jen's wedding story beat the polite car story uh significantly by 71 which i am very glad of and the first class i think this is a huge upset that first class story that we just recapped beat your monster truck story which i think lives much larger in the brains of listeners. I know. Now you're not so happy, are you?

Please vote Monster Truck back in. All right, let's do a little music for your weekend before we get out of here. Andrew, what song have you selected for the listeners? And for me, really. More for me than the listeners.

It's so weird. I have one song that I want to... I can't make up my mind. I'm going to play... I'm just going to go with my heart. I'm going to play a ridiculously silly song. This is why it's so ridiculous for me to play it. I'll bet you you might already know this, Luke. I'll bet you younger listeners or maybe even more likely the children of listeners might have known this as something that was kind of popping off. It's by a YouTuber named Nico B. And it was actually popular about a year and a half ago. But has it made its way onto TikTok yet? That's what I think. I mean, so this guy's name is Nico B. He's known as, like, an influencer and a YouTuber or something. I assume he's also a TikToker. I'd never heard of him before. Somebody used this in their Instagram story, and I was like, oh, that's kind of good. So I went back and I listened to it, and I liked it, and then I looked it up. I'm like, oh, yeah, he's just like some – so he's some, like, you know, kid in Britain named Nico B., and the name of the song is Who's That?, What's That?, and I'm wondering after you hear this, Luke, if you've heard it around the internet because you're much more, you know, keen to these things. Let's take a listen.

Who's that? What's that? I don't know what I'm doing, but I text her WhatsApp, telling her to come through. And then I copped a Big Mac Milkshake and some large fries it cost £4.50, take the gherkin out of the inside Who's that, what's that? I don't know what I'm doing but I text her WhatsApp Telling her to come through and then I copped a Big Mac Milkshake and some large fries it cost £4.50, take the gherkin out of the inside House party on a cold night I got goosebumps but it's alright Got a grey goose for a good price And I mix that with Coke and ice 2 a.m. and I'm in town Dancing in the street like I'm Chris Brown Bouncer comes with me pinned down But he let me go for 20 pounds Where's my wallet? Swear it was in my pocket My bank card was in there And I need to make a deposit I think I'm about to vomit I shouldn't have ate that omelet Bought 50p of Bitcoin Made two pound a profit My mate says he's lost his money

Oh my god, I love this so much I do not know this song You don't recognize it, huh? No, it's so good, though. I'm creating a Nico B. Pandora station as we speak. I'm glad you like it. That Irish kid covering Eminem's beat will come up in it, too.

I just remembered that as well, that this is two weeks in a row that we have some sort of, like, young white rappers from the UK making the music for your weekend. But I'm glad you like it. I felt kind of silly. Like, again, I think of, like, probably there are some people who are like, I can't believe he's playing this song that had a hot moment a year and a half ago on TikTok or whatever.

I have not. Now, maybe it's just my algorithm, but I have not seen that pop up on TikTok, but it's made for it. I don't mean that you created it to be on TikTok, but I will be very unsurprised if at some point in the next six months, because one of the things about TikTok is it isn't about a song necessarily being new, hence the Billy Joel, I've got the old man's car, I've got a jazz guitar. i'm going down to zanza bar um being a meme it's just like somebody doing something funny with it but like particularly the beginning of that song is just like i assume will at some point blow up on tiktok um and it's also just a great song although he does say whatsapp in it well two questions i know you got to go but he's talking about the whatsapp which i think was you kind of low-key trying to let me know your displeasure in me not interacting with you and beans what

app messages do you know that i'm on two what app uh text chains now the other one is for this wedding that i'm going to be in and it's a bunch of younger and it's a but no i think i told you that didn't i well yeah but i mean i i forget everything you told me and maybe i did i don't know in fact i i should make it's somebody who's known to the show i shouldn't make sure everybody

is it carrie because i feel like i would like to get that news from her it's actually me and carrie it's i didn't really know how to tell you honestly just for the

narrative of the show that would be pretty dope it would i guess it would create i would definitely

vote for that i mean honestly i hope she ends up with a great person i think you're a great person so i mazel i wish you both very well thank you no um no but it is somebody i've been sliding

into veeve's dms for years i just want to make sure it's weird that i should say this i want to make sure that it's public public but anyway it's a dear friend of mine is getting married shit. He is significantly younger than me, and so he's got a bunch of young friends. And they're all planning like all the –

This is the wedding I'm not invited to in Houston.

It's actually up here in Seattle. They told me it was in Houston. That's why I wasn't invited. They invited you to a wedding in Houston. Anyway, and so I'm wondering if it's like just younger people because I didn't get invited into a text chain. I got invited via WhatsApp, and I don't know how they found me on WhatsApp, but like I am now –

I'm using Signal to text with Nick.

Is it WhatsApp or what? It's WhatsApp, right? And so now, like, I'm on this WhatsApp chain about all these plans with all these, like, you know, kids in their 20s and early 30s. So I'm just wondering if, like, it's probably in use a lot more in a younger demographic.

The other thing he said in that song that struck me was, I've got a good price on Grey Goose, which I think is a very clever line. But then he says, I got some ice and Coke. Is he proposing a vodka Coke drink or is he talking cocaine?

No, I think he's talking about, he said, mix it with some ice and Coke. I'm pretty sure he means like a – yeah, like a vodka Coke, which isn't something that I –

Because our friend Toon was pitching for a while a vodka Coke solution, a vodka diet Coke solution, and I always just thought it sounded gross, but she swore by it.

Really? I didn't know that. Yeah, because I think that if you're going to throw some sort of liquor into Coke, it's going to be like either a whiskey or a rum, right?

That's what I always think of it being the combo, but it's like – I don't know. I mean, I think I might have even tasted it once. It didn't actually taste as bad as I was expecting. So, all right. Nico B was born in 2000, by the way, for whatever that's worth. Oh, my God. And you don't believe in a God. I would like to suggest a song by an Australian band called Good Morning. And the song is called Keep It. And I really, really like this song. Addy sent it to me a couple weeks ago. And I don't know a lot about this band, but I think this song is pretty great. If you like Pavement, I feel you will like – oh, you know what? Pavement is having a moment on TikTok. Oh, they are. Which speaks to the kind of like – and it's – I don't even know this song. It's weird. As a pavement head, I wasn't super familiar with the song, which is the song that has a lyric about like a word that rhymes with pavement.

They have a lyric that goes –

There's a lyric in a pavement song that is about finding a word that rhymes with pavement. I don't know that lyric.

I don't think I'm great with lyrics. I'm sure I've heard it and didn't pay attention.

Well, I wasn't familiar with this song. Maybe it's off of like – it's at the back of like, you know, Wowie Zowie or something. But anyway, this band, Good Morning from Australia, they got some pavement-y vibes, I think. So anyway, take a listen to this. It's my Music for Your Weekend selection.

Here's what happens Get a bit alone Not everybody Gets that time on their own What's in that box, man? You know it's not my head Maybe just all the stupid Shit I said Over the years So that's Good Morning.

As I hear the song, it sounds nothing like pavement. Maybe just the guitar riff.

I like it, though, man.

It's good, though, right? It's really good.

I also, while I'm listening to it, I'm reading some fascinating things about this Pavement

song you just alluded to. Harness Your Hopes. Are you reading the description of the song? No, I'm just reading the lyrics and I'm, the lyrics themselves are extremely dark.

I haven't read all the lyrics, but I was able to like, you know, call up the song by the clues you had given me. And I'm now at Genius.com and listen to this. This is why neither one of us know the song. Harness Your Hopes was originally an incredibly obscure B-side by the band. It was present on the Spit on a Stranger single, quietly released in 1999. It was also released as a separate single in France. For a long time, the song was largely unknown to most, except to the most seasoned Pavement fans, to the point where frontman Stephen Malkmus did not even recognize the song when he heard it played in a bakery. Upon Spotify rolling out its autoplay feature in 2017, the song quickly became the band's most popular on streaming services for no discernible reason and became popular as a song on TikTok

it's the GameStop of Peyton's song It really is. Now I can't wait to hear that song. I need to add that to my playlist.

Well, you know what? You're going to hear it right now because I'm going to just play a little bit. I know you have places to be. I'm sorry. And I'm also playing this off YouTube, so it's probably going to suck. I'm just imagining Stephen Malcolm is about to order a scone, not recognizing this being his voice. That sounds just like the band Good Morning.

It really does, man. Wow. Assets that attract us To anything that moves We're deep inside the grooves And it's time to shake the rashes Cause someone's gonna cash in The plot it turns again

Trying to get to the rhymes with pavement part

Show me a word that rhymes with pavement And I won't kill your parents And roast them all

Alright, okay, Stephen, calm down If I wrote this song, it would be the greatest song That I ever wrote in my life and Steve Malcomus doesn't remember writing it. He eats pieces of shit like this song for breakfast. What?

Ew. So this is from the Bright in the Corners era, and you know what? I have, because of Spotify, when you go to listen to one of these records, they often will play the extended version with all the B-sides, all the re-releases of these albums. So I have heard this before, but probably once or twice, that when he was singing about the asses, that rang a bell to me. Sure. Anyway. Of course it did.

You know another pavement song? I know you have to go. I'm sorry. I'm just enjoying talking to you today. Sue me. Sue me for what? Yeah. Usually this feels like work, but today I'm enjoying it. Carrot Rope I've been getting into.

Carrot Rope. I don't think I know that song. It's really good.

I think it's technically called maybe and Carrot Rope, like ellipses and Carrot Rope. Check that one out, too. It's kind of a deeper cut. All right. Let's get to the listener's suggestion. I got a lot of pavement to listen to this afternoon while Andrew's in various meetings. This is from listener Lauren. Hi. I was delighted to recently hear Luke talk about how amazing John Batiste is. John Batiste, for the couple people who may not know, is a great musician from New Orleans who won an Oscar this year or an Academy Award and gave this great rambling but beautiful speech. He's also in charge of the band on the Stephen Colbert show, the Stay Human band, I believe. And he just appears to be just the perfect expression of human kindness and joy in the world. I love the dude. Lauren says, this Batiste is truly a genius with a beautiful heart. This is a bit of a throwback. It's from his 2013 Jazz Is Now album, but it never fails to make me smile. I used to DJ this at swing dances in the before times. Actually before the before times Way back when I had the energy to go dancing On a weeknight So this is John Batiste By the way In cutting and pasting Lauren's email I didn't even include the name of the song

What is the name of the song Andrew? I'm clicking through now to try to figure it out It's a Spotify link Sorry I'm also kind of running out of battery here too It looks like it's Sunny Side of the Street

Yeah so this is a cover obviously Sunny Side of the Street is a sort of a standard But this is John Batiste version Alright before Andrew literally and figuratively runs out of batteries Let's wrap things up on this Friday Thanks for listening everybody We'll be back here on Monday with more Imaginary Are we announcing the Thon thing on Monday?

I mean, you're asking me It seems like a good plan to me Because then we'll be exactly one week away From kicking the damn thing off

So Monday, tune in We're going to tell you what we're doing for the TVTL Thon It's going to be fun Thanks for listening, see you on Monday Until then, have a great weekend And please remember, a new mountain too tall And good luck to all

Thank you. We'll be right back.

Grab your coat and get your hat Leave your worries on the doorstep Just direct your feet To the sunny side of the street Can't you hear the pitter pat? Oh, a happy tune is your step Life can be so sweet On the sunny side of the street I used to walk in the shade With my blues on parade But now I'm not afraid Cause this rover didn't cross over If I never have a cent bae I'll be rich as Rockefeller With gold dust at my feet, bae On the sunny side of the street Huh, yeah Power out.