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#3430 That's Fortuna, Bro!
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3430 That's Fortuna, Bro!

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

May 25, 2021 | 01:09:21 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke and Andrew make it to Humboldt County, where Luke goes on an emotional jog through the streets of his early childhood. Then they crash listener Adam's house and record a podcast in his driveway.
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00:00:01 - 00:00:20 | Speaker 5:

Beer me. What's that? Hand me that water. I always say beer me. Gets a laugh like a quarter of the time. Check out this sunshine, man. Global warming, right? Today was supposed to be really cold, I bet. What about music? Do you have any music? Uh, yeah. I should have said so.

00:00:22 - 00:00:36 | Speaker 4:

Ready to get the beat, boys, and free my soul. I want to get lost in your rock and roll And drift away Give me the beat, boys And be my little old soul

00:00:36 - 00:00:50 | Speaker 5:

I was thinking more like a CD or a CD Your call, dude They had been posting their stuff out on the internet

00:00:50 - 00:00:54 | Speaker 1:

And apparently they'd been met with virtually nothing but ridicule

00:00:54 - 00:01:07 | Speaker 6:

I don't think I can do this. You can do anything I want you to do. Don't worry about it. The audience will be completely drunk. And if we're not perfect, they'll take it out on us. But that's why you're going to be perfect. You have to be perfect.

00:01:08 - 00:01:15 | Speaker 2:

What kind of rap do you do? Are you like sort of sing-songing a rap like Bone Thugs-N-Harmony? Or are you more like Street, like Will Smith?

00:01:16 - 00:01:21 | Speaker 6:

Are you ready? Ready for what? T-B-T-L. Spinky.

00:01:21 - 00:02:31 | Speaker 3:

well all right hello good morning and welcome to a tuesday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live it's your lucky day you just found a usb flash drive in the parking lot coming to you from beautiful fortuna california california got sunshine Not today, apparently. Checking it at a balmy, 50 degrees, rainy, cloudy, but still a lovely place to be here in the beautiful Northern California area. We are also about two miles from Redwood Memorial Hospital, where your guy, old LB, was actually born. I'm only now learning from our kind host, Adam, here in Fortuna, that locally it's known as Deadwood. because it's maybe not the place to go. What I want to say is I'm a survivor. I somehow survived being born at Redwood Memorial Hospital here in Fortuna and have made my way back here 40 years later to ask you all to support this podcast.

00:02:31 - 00:02:34 | Speaker 6:

That cash could really get me out of a couple of jams.

00:02:34 - 00:03:05 | Speaker 3:

As part of TBTL-a-thon 12, contentless delivery. We got off to a little bit of a slow start today. we had some crazy technical stuff that has apparently been worked out. We didn't realize what a miracle it was yesterday that we even stayed on the air, as it were, that we were able to be broadcasting on YouTube because apparently I was playing music that YouTube was flagging and was threatening to take us off the air yesterday.

00:03:05 - 00:03:06 | Speaker 6:

It's literally illegal.

00:03:07 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 3:

So today, the only music we can play is a bad-to-the-bone instrumental version that I once found somewhere in the dark corners of the internet. That's the only music that we can legally play that YouTube will not ban us. We literally are on strike one with YouTube this week. So anyway, hopefully we will stay on the air and be able to get through episode 3430 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. I realize in all of the hoopla getting the show set up, I didn't even bring my bell, So I'll be working with my little sound machine here in a story that's very relevant to the interests of the TBTL listeners and us. You know, we were some of the first people. We were one of the first major American radio shows to obsess over the Charlie, That Hurt, You Bit My Finger kid. Remember this kid? Well, that video that I went onto YouTube last night and grabbed the audio from that video will be taken down from YouTube very soon because it has been sold as a non-fungible token for $760,000 So if you want to go watch that video of that British kid getting his finger bit by his brother do it now because someone else owns it And soon it will not be out there for us, the public, to enjoy. By the way, I downloaded the whole audio file. So I plan to just, because I'm not in enough trouble with YouTube right now. I plan to just play that entire file indiscriminately for as long as I can. Also, we have an update in one of the greatest TBTL mysteries of our time, of course. Previously on Serial. The theft of our signs that we purchased for this van, this 1990.

00:05:00 - 00:05:34 | Speaker 2:

Mitsubishi Delica that we've been driving from Oregon to California. I have talked to Colby, the manager at the Holiday Inn in Corvallis, Oregon. I've had her review the security footage, and we have a bit of an update. Also, this is the greater Eureka, Fortuna, Arcata kind of part of the world. This is where I am from originally, and I went on a jog this morning around Eureka to some spots that I used to go to when I was very little with my mom. And I have to say, it was a surprisingly emotional job.

00:05:34 - 00:05:38 | Speaker 1:

What makes people all over America break down and cry like this?

00:05:39 - 00:05:55 | Speaker 2:

And not just because I was very close to having a bathroom incident. But that wasn't helping. Anyway, we'll talk about all of that and so much more. And we'll do it with this guy. He is the longest-running cobro of the show. He may have best known for his depictions of the tall ships.

00:05:55 - 00:05:58 | Speaker 1:

Now we're done being engineer, Andy. Now it's time to be host Andy

00:05:58 - 00:06:09 | Speaker 2:

Well, co-bro Andy with the possibility of becoming co-host Andy He is Andrew Walsh, he's joining me right now From a couple of feet to my right here in Fortuna, California How you doing, my friend?

00:06:09 - 00:06:20 | Speaker 1:

Pretty good, I thought we decided yesterday that I am host in the number one chair But I'm giving you honorary duties to start the show I thought that's the org chart, did I misunderstand that?

00:06:20 - 00:06:35 | Speaker 2:

You know what, whatever you need right now so that your internal, you know, kind of motor can get to a good place because, my friend, you were really, really running around trying to get this show onto YouTube.

00:06:36 - 00:06:47 | Speaker 1:

I was going to say you just saw the worst of me, but actually that's not true. You saw me after the signs got stolen off our van. That wasn't a good me either. Although I didn't really do it. I didn't punch a wall or anything.

00:06:47 - 00:07:21 | Speaker 2:

No, I mean, you only have one good hand left, so you don't need to be punching walls. No, it wasn't, you know, what you did, Andrew, was you sprang into action in a way. I mean, you know how, like, sometimes a mom can lift a car off of her child because she has superhuman strength? You developed superhuman speed because you had to run back and forth to where this camera is because the camera, which is actually your phone, again, we need the donations. This whole thing is being filmed on Andrew's actual cell phone, which might have been part of the problem.

00:07:21 - 00:07:28 | Speaker 1:

I'm not joking. if the feed suddenly goes dead it might be that i ran out of data like i'm sure we'll be fine

00:07:28 - 00:07:49 | Speaker 2:

but literally please donate to the show so andrew can get unlimited data on his phone andrew was running to where the camera is and checking things and then running back here to the audio board and plugging things in and then running back my friend i you know went on what was for me an accidentally long jog because i got lost you probably covered i would say about seven

00:07:49 - 00:08:45 | Speaker 1:

miles here at adam and carrie's house i am i don't want to i think i did this yesterday um we talked too much about my technical woes leading into the show i'm on the youtube page now it seems that people are listening and interacting and everything seems to be fine america is seeing this and hearing this that's the important thing i'll try to make this quick but it there is sort of an irony here yesterday was our very first setup like this and of course we're in cheryl's driveway in corvallis and so there were so many unknowns yesterday uh as we got there and it took us a while to get set up and there was kind of an emergency situation with i think it was wi-fi and some other things yesterday that made it look like we might be a little bit late in starting this feed but we ended up pulling it off right at the last minute today i i well i sort of now i realize i totally jinxed it because we got here a little bit later than planned but the setup went so well because we already knew exactly what we were dealing with right so we got this thing set up and then i looked down i'm like oh we still have 20 minutes to set up the audio and today

00:08:45 - 00:09:04 | Speaker 2:

Let's drink some delicious hazelnut, and what's the other thing, Adam, you put in the coffee? Let's do some delicious hazelnut regular coffee mix that Adam handcrafted for us. We were just like in chill mode. I even said to him, like, yeah, we're a lot calmer than yesterday because everything's going well.

00:09:04 - 00:09:49 | Speaker 1:

And we were, and I actually just misspoke there. I said, okay, we had all the audio set up, and then it was like, okay, now we have 20 minutes to set up the video, which we've already done this once yesterday. I know what we're dealing with here. And then suddenly just there were all these malfunctions that still to this to this moment do not make sense. I believe that the feed is OK. But the irony is I don't know how it's fixed right now. The way it is fixed right now is we have a little piece of equipment that is turned off. And that doesn't make sense to me. It's called our brains. How is it that we have a piece of equipment that only works when it's turned off? And when I turn it on, everything goes haywire. I don't understand it. I accept it. And I'm ready to move on, but I just needed to share that with you. This is a conundrum.

00:09:50 - 00:10:21 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. Can I say something? And I mean this with absolute peace and love because what you're doing here from a technical standpoint, Andrew, is really incredible to me. We would be lost without you. But maybe tomorrow when we're in Sacramento, could we try to address the video stuff as early in the process as makes sense? Because what I've noted is yesterday and today, the real the real technical issue is getting this thing out to you, too. Yes. That's been what really created the tension.

00:10:21 - 00:10:28 | Speaker 1:

But the issue is the audio that is going into the phone and we can't set up the we have to set up the audio before we can set it to the phone.

00:10:28 - 00:10:33 | Speaker 2:

So we have the audio gear on one side of the river, and the video gear, and a bag of feed. Right.

00:10:33 - 00:10:39 | Speaker 1:

So to answer your question, no. I mean, there's no way to, you know, we can't set up the video without having audio feed.

00:10:39 - 00:10:45 | Speaker 2:

Okay, Megan in Sacramento will be at your house at 7 a.m. Exactly. Get ready. Actually, that is what's going to, now listen, let me also say. Yeah, exactly.

00:10:45 - 00:10:47 | Speaker 1:

We also got here like way late.

00:10:47 - 00:11:40 | Speaker 2:

That was my fault. That was my fault because of this, my jog of destiny, Andrew, and the fact that you would resent me for that really hurts. Okay. I've been doing the Club for Eagle Soaring with the other 10s on Facebook this week, which has been really fun. It's been awesome to see what everybody's been getting up to. And if you're if you're somebody that that's able to get out there and exercise or again, I wrote in the initial post, if you just if staring into the middle distance for you is a form of exercise, post that like whatever your body's capable of. It's been fun to post stuff in there But man, this morning I got up And I have to tell you I was not feeling super duper Inspired by the weather In Eureka It was sideways raining At like 6am today It was just kind of I don't know It was grimy and slimy And kind of clammy out there

00:11:40 - 00:11:53 | Speaker 1:

And we were in the hotel district Which isn't the nicest part of town I think the day before On Monday you woke up and you had a river you could run down, right? And it was a little bit more scenic in that way.

00:11:54 - 00:13:28 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, but because I'm trying to keep this agreement with the listeners that we're all going to try to do our best to get out there and shake a leg, I was like, well, I got to do it. And so I thought, well, I'll try to jog and maybe see some of the sights from when I was a kid. I mean, we moved out of Eureka when I was probably like five or something, so we're not talking about a huge part of my life. But a part that sort of looms large and weirdly, I have memories of being like two years old. I have I have two very vivid memories of being a kid in Eureka. One was going to this pizza shop called Tommaso's Pizza with my mom and then going and getting an apple juice from the machine that was down on the water right near Tommaso's. So I jogged by that today. It's not a Tommaso's anymore. It's some other restaurant. And then I also remember being chased by dogs While I was in the kids Like the kids seat on my mom's bike My mom had this old green Schwinn And a child seat on the back And this was before my mom and dad got married And she would just ride all over Eureka Just miles and miles and miles With me in the back And sometimes we got chased by dogs Which makes a real impression on your two year old brain Apparently But it was a weird adventure for me Because I got out there It was cold, it was rainy And then, I don't know, maybe a half a mile in, my stomach started feeling not great. I'm not sure what Olympic marathoners, like what their pre-race diet is. But I wonder, I'm starting to think it might not be a gallon of queso from the Applebee's in Eureka.

00:13:29 - 00:13:37 | Speaker 1:

You know what? And I know this is outside my expertise, too. But I think they're more Chili's people. Ah, okay. You went to Applebee's? See, that's the thing.

00:13:37 - 00:13:38 | Speaker 2:

Don't act like you weren't there.

00:13:39 - 00:14:02 | Speaker 1:

You went to Applebee's. You were sitting right next to me eating a steak. No regerts, actually. Well, I have some regerts. My grandfather used to order steaks at Applebee's and then complain that they weren't very good steaks, which is just sort of like, yeah, you ordered a steak from Applebee's, Gramps. He's no longer with us. I can talk shit. Actually, the steak, sorry, this is your story, but the steak actually was good. Yeah, it looked good. I thought my grandfather had too high of expectations.

00:14:03 - 00:14:51 | Speaker 2:

See, the thing is, you and I went to an Applebee's on a previous TBTL-a-thon. We had been hitchhiking through Missouri, and the only place that was anywhere near the Munger Moss Motel still serving food. By the way, think about this weird synchronicity. When we were in Missouri at the Munger Moss, we came out, and across the street was a bowling alley. And we went to the bowling alley, and they weren't serving food anymore, which is how we ended up at the Applebee's. Flash forward to May 24th, 2021, Eureka, California. we walk out of our hotel along a very busy kind of like highway and the first place we went into was a bowling alley which had stopped serving food or was not going to be serving food within five minutes and then we continued on to the applebee's i forgot about the bowling alley

00:14:51 - 00:14:57 | Speaker 1:

connection isn't that crazy i guess by the time you do this 12 times the tbtl thought

00:14:57 - 00:14:59 | Speaker 2:

But Applebee's is the main restaurant in a lot of small America.

00:15:00 - 00:15:15 | Speaker 1:

cities but to be in like kind of a similar kind of vibe of an area and then to realize all of the restaurants are closed and then to stop at a bowling alley first and then get rejected and end up at an applebee's we've really just recreated that we're we did it we're out of content yes

00:15:15 - 00:15:40 | Speaker 2:

that's it well i was chasing the dragon though because that meal that we had in missouri was so good it's like lived in my head like you know what man in a pinch applebee's right so i was excited to go there and i but the difference is i don't eat meat now back then i did so i was trying to order that literally the same thing this sampler that is 3 000 calories that is more than a daily

00:15:40 - 00:15:51 | Speaker 1:

amount of calories that i need but but it was nighttime that's how you get around it god daily calories can't see you at night daily calories are different than nightly calories so uh anyway i

00:15:51 - 00:16:37 | Speaker 2:

asked the the person there can i um order it but minus the meat she said no substitution she goes because appetizers are half off and I was like well you just messed up because I'm going to order every appetizer on the menu now that I know they're half off at least everything that doesn't have meat in it so I did I just ordered like a ridiculous amount of food and I'm just like anyway a lot of it was this very spicy queso which was yummy but wasn't doing me any favors on this job my point being I almost quit probably three times on this run because my stomach was not feeling great it was raining and I was getting lost I was trying to find these like special places in my childhood and the i was running with my phone and it just kept like i kept going down the wrong street or like the mapping software would just be kind of like not updating

00:16:37 - 00:16:50 | Speaker 1:

yeah mine does that sometimes out of curiosity you can't use your um apple watch for that i'm taking this to a very boring place what apple products do you use on your jogs but you can't use your like there's no map on your watch or something you know there might be i use the the

00:16:50 - 00:18:18 | Speaker 2:

watch tells me how far i ran and what my pace was there's probably a way to integrate the mapping into it but for these uh eagle soaring things i have to bring my phone because i try to take a picture on the run of something interesting what it ended up being today was right as i was about to give up i i sort of come around this corner and i see this park and this park is very like Familiar to me And I realize It's this park called Sequoia Park Which I When I was a little kid Lived across the street from In this house On S Street In Eureka And then I look over And there's the house Wow And I just got like Totally emotional Probably Probably It was because I was listening to this band Called Blind Pilot Which has like Really beautiful Really kind of like Music that Always puts me in my feelings No matter what But there was just Something about This is also the house where so this is where me and my mom lived this was like a communal house associated with this church it's also where my dad proposed to my mom and by proposed i mean said i would eat your burned grilled cheese for the rest of my life which is not a euphemism get your mind out of the gutter you people are filthy um no my mom like made some grilled cheese for my dad like they weren't like they were very christiany people they had like never even held hands right it was like very chased but she made some grilled cheese sandwiches she burned them and then my dad said something to the effect of these are great i would eat these for the rest of my life and that was his proposal

00:18:18 - 00:18:24 | Speaker 1:

that's really sweet by the way can we name the show chased by dogs sure let's put it down as a

00:18:24 - 00:19:18 | Speaker 2:

early possibility but so this house this house on s street has all this kind of i don't know it's just i don't think i've looked at it since i was five how different is it well it's a victorian house it was like a lot of people lived there right because like it was communal housing so it's pretty big and it's in okay shape but um but yeah i just was like it just really i don't know why it hit me because it's again i i don't have that house in particular i don't have any really strong memories around but what i do remember is that park across the street remember we were driving here and we were going through um redwoods national forest and i said i have this feeling that when i lived in this house in eureka i lived across the street from redwoods national park That makes no sense Well it's because it's actually called Sequoia Park It's just a beautiful park in Eureka But here's the thing There is somewhere in this area That tree that you can drive through Or used to be able to drive through

00:19:18 - 00:19:20 | Speaker 1:

Yeah I remember hearing of that Yeah it's famous right

00:19:20 - 00:20:28 | Speaker 2:

Yeah and I like My like childhood Mandela effect memory Was that we lived across the street From the park where that tree was right Well you know what it was There is a huge tree that they built a slide and like a kid's play thing into what so my little two-year-old elves it was serious elf time so my little two-year-old brain or whatever four-year-old brain remembered this play structure built into this huge redwood as something is in a tree that's not really normally like and it's like it's very cool how they did it and i was like i hadn't combined that with that tree i'd seen pictures of the people could Drugs. drive-thru wow so mystery solved so okay so you did show you did get to see the house it did make you emotional yes that's not surprising to me and not that because i would think i might be emotional too i don't have that experience in my life where like a place that i lived just for the first few years of my life you know what i mean the first house i had i was there until i think i was 13 or 14 but um you know so that's a little different experience but sure i get emotional on the you know every five years when i drive past that place or whatever it is yeah i think it's

00:20:28 - 00:21:46 | Speaker 1:

because it looms very large in the lore of our family you know my mom and dad talk about it a lot again it's kind of where they met I think my mom lived there and my dad was like the worked for the church kind of managing some of these houses trying to make sure everything was okay which is how they came in contact I believe but um also some of the tears were because I was still very close to shitting my pants I'm not even joking some of the sweat was because of that as well because so then I have this whole moment I'm listening to this music I'm kind of like getting emotional uh and then i look down at my phone and i realize i'm like well the phone said i was 54 minutes from our hotel that would be a slow walk but i'm still like a half hour from our hotel if i run fast uh by my standards and it's like 7 15 so like you and i were supposed to leave at 7 45 a.m. it's 7 15 i'm best case scenario a half hour run from our hotel and also am clenching my bunghole the entire run back but i can't not run as fast as i can because then i will make us even later and then we'll have even more problems with the youtube feed the irony is i um missed

00:21:46 - 00:22:11 | Speaker 2:

my morning constitutional because i was in the lobby waiting for you oh wow well we all made some gave all and all gave some i was like okay i i'm in my privacy of my hotel room but i know we're on a really tight schedule today it's 7 45 i told luke i'd be downstairs so i go downstairs and i wait and i'm like should have gone to the bathroom i'm fine it's not an emergency situation but i know that the one time though that i do that then you're gonna wait for me but but see

00:22:11 - 00:22:39 | Speaker 1:

the good news is you have no you shouldn't feel bad about that you have built up so much in the bank of waiting like you've waited for me on so like some every once in a blue moon and we're like in normal show mode and we're connecting up on our little systems maybe you're get there a little after me like it never bothers me in the slightest because I have made I've left you on red so many times in our professional relationship that like you have an almost unlimited number of

00:22:39 - 00:22:59 | Speaker 2:

being late to things before i can be annoyed i said that um you know it wasn't that bad by the way it was just it was more of a kind of a notion like okay here i am i'm in my hotel room should i take advantage of this privacy or not and then i'm like nah i'm fine and then i went downstairs i'm like i probably should have just taken the um 25 minutes it takes me to go to the

00:22:59 - 00:23:02 | Speaker 1:

bathroom do you need to use do you need to use adam and carrie's bathroom they already very

00:23:02 - 00:23:12 | Speaker 2:

generously offered access i wish i had i wish i had not brought it up by the way i realized that I think I swore before, and I never checked. Adam, is it cool if we swear, you and your neighbors?

00:23:12 - 00:23:27 | Speaker 1:

You're asking, Adam is a full-grown man, as is Carrie, and even Tucker, the 15-year-old Papillon, is, I mean, in dog years, very, very advanced. Meanwhile, yesterday, we were just swearing like sailors in front of those beautiful children, Julian and Irene.

00:23:28 - 00:23:31 | Speaker 2:

Well, those children have potty mouths, and they taught me all of these words.

00:23:31 - 00:23:37 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, they've grown up now. Hey, we have a little update in the situation with our signs.

00:23:37 - 00:23:41 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm actually, you've been withholding. I'm interested in finding out what we know, what we don't know.

00:23:43 - 00:24:35 | Speaker 1:

So we rolled into Corvallis, possibly with our signs on our van. We don't remember, you know, looking at the van in the parking lot of the Holiday Inn and not seeing our signs. I feel like we would have noticed that. So our theory was when we came back from dinner and the signs were gone, they had been stolen by some, again, I assume Oregon State University beavers. You go to a school where the mascot is a beaver And you're going to internalize some real trauma They're wily, those beavers I just think they're just mad at the world They're like, why can't we get a mascot that's not Entendre filled So that has sort of been our theory But then people have been Throwing it out there on Twitter and other places Facebook, is it possible that the Magnets just flew off Because we were on the freeway Now we had specially selected A size of magnet that was not supposed to fly off the van

00:24:35 - 00:24:47 | Speaker 2:

And the whole thing is a magnet Just to be very clear I mean you said this yesterday But it's not like a sign that has magnets in the corners Or even strips of magnets in the top and the sides I mean the whole thing is a magnet

00:24:47 - 00:24:50 | Speaker 1:

Yes, it's made out of magnets It is

00:24:50 - 00:24:51 | Speaker 2:

How does it work?

00:24:51 - 00:24:55 | Speaker 1:

Well that was one of the theories by the way That's been floated on Facebook Because it was stolen by Juggalos

00:24:55 - 00:24:56 | Speaker 2:

Oh, could be

00:24:56 - 00:25:33 | Speaker 1:

Because of the strong magnet connection And their confusion around it so uh i had what i thought was a bright idea which is to call the folks at the holiday inn and because we had to drive through the like main lobby area like where you pull into a hotel and you know in 2000 uh what are we in 21 i think so in 2021 that they have security cameras and so i called up colby yesterday who was very nice the manager who has access to the security camera she She went in the back room, and she actually checked three different camera angles.

00:25:33 - 00:25:37 | Speaker 2:

And guess what, Andrew? It's solved. Mystery solved. Is that, guess what?

00:25:38 - 00:26:18 | Speaker 1:

No. None of the cameras were able to catch our van going in. Suspicious? I mean, you try to make a video of the van, you mess it up. there's no footage of our van in an area that should be under surveillance. You know, it's a private property. It's a business. You think they'd want to see who's coming and going from the hotel. That seems reasonable. But then Colby shared with me a detail. Her husband drives for FedEx and has magnetic signs on his truck that regularly blow off, which I think bolsters the theory that they just blew off the van.

00:26:20 - 00:27:09 | Speaker 2:

I am so mad. You referenced a second ago, just in case somebody doesn't remember this from yesterday. This is you at your ugliest. This is me at my Marge Simpson growl sound. I just had two seconds where I hopped out of the van on a Sunday evening when you were parking it in the hotel parking lot. And it was the first time that I was outside of the van while you were driving. And I pulled out my phone really quickly. I'm like, I'll just take a video, a very quick five-second video of the van driving past me. I framed it up. I hit go. The van drove past me. It was the perfect little video, except I didn't hit go, and it turns out I didn't get any of that footage. If I had that footage on my phone, I could tell you for sure if this sign was on the van or not in those moments we pulled up to the Holiday Inn.

00:27:09 - 00:27:38 | Speaker 1:

Isn't it more fun not knowing? Don't you feel like it's a more interesting question? I mean, this is one of the things about modern life. Very little is not knowable. No, it's true. We used to spend a lot of time just trying to figure stuff out or just maybe never getting to the bottom of it. There's like three things left on planet Earth that aren't knowable through the Internet. And one of them is, what the fuck happened to our science? I'm sorry, Adam. I had to use an adult word there.

00:27:39 - 00:27:44 | Speaker 2:

I would love to play Iris Dement's Let the Mystery Be right now, but YouTube will kick us off the internet.

00:27:45 - 00:29:22 | Speaker 1:

I was going to propose going out with one of those Blind Pilot songs that I was in my feelings over today, but even that, I don't know if that's going to get us in trouble. So, yeah, let's just talk about this real quickly. We play music on our show a lot. We also because we work for a you know a media company that pays ASCAP and BMI fees like we we work we we are under the impression that we have the rights to use at least some amount of music and what we really try to be careful though what we don't ever want to do is accidentally make a situation where someone's less inclined to buy a song. So we never play a song in its entirety in the clear We always talk over the music We play a few seconds And we're pretty careful with that stuff But what we forgot was As we were getting ready for the show yesterday When the video was on All of you watching it on YouTube I was playing some music In particular apparently a Crosby Stills and Nash song Our house Which something on YouTube got triggered Then when we played the song at the end That was the listener suggestion The Dazzling Donor suggestion, I believe, by, like, Lab. I think it was called, like, Funktown? Yes. Funkasaurus. Yep, yep. Shout out to Funkasaurus, our newest listener. Soon-to-be Dazzling Donor. Got to keep the pitch going. Yes, yes. Anyway, it captured both of those songs. Like, whatever YouTube algorithm. And now, if you go back and you watch the video, the story is that those sections of the video from yesterday's show will now be blocked. but only in some countries and what are those countries and actually also kiki lolo sent me

00:29:22 - 00:29:32 | Speaker 2:

this notification we got from um youtube i find it fascinating so like you said it was that funk song or whatever it was the hour house also did you play a song called dissolve does that ring

00:29:32 - 00:29:37 | Speaker 1:

yeah abso facto that one got flagged sure that one doesn't surprise me that's a biggie and um

00:29:37 - 00:29:49 | Speaker 2:

and eric you know eric the viking stromstead our engineer he warned me after the show yesterday They're like, hey, be careful with that music. You know, you could get flagged by a YouTuber, potentially, like, blocked for the rest of the week, which we can't have that.

00:29:50 - 00:29:52 | Speaker 1:

We'll do that just fine on our own.

00:29:52 - 00:30:13 | Speaker 2:

Exactly. And then Christina says, yeah, you were flagged. You're partially blocked because of these three songs. And then she said, but just so you know. No, you're only blocked right now in Iran, Cuba, North Korea, and Syria, which I call the axis of no fun ski. Right. The axis of what? Why did I go Polish? Why did I go the axis of no fun ski?

00:30:14 - 00:30:17 | Speaker 1:

Self-hating Polish-American Andrew Walsh checking in.

00:30:17 - 00:30:17 | Speaker 2:

Right.

00:30:18 - 00:30:30 | Speaker 1:

That's so fascinating. So if we have listeners that are trying to, or I guess viewers on YouTube trying to watch yesterday's video from Iran, North Korea? Yep. Wait, they get YouTube in North Korea?

00:30:31 - 00:30:33 | Speaker 2:

I don't know if they get it, but they can watch it. Wow.

00:30:33 - 00:30:36 | Speaker 1:

And then you said Syria. And what was the other one?

00:30:36 - 00:30:40 | Speaker 2:

Let's see. Did you say Cuba, Iran? I didn't say Cuba. Yeah. Iran, Cuba, North Korea, and Syria.

00:30:40 - 00:31:13 | Speaker 1:

That's a fascinating list. I mean, think about it. Syria is run by Bashir al-Assad. He's no good. I mean, Castro, the other Castro just stepped down in Cuba. We know about the guy in North Korea. And then Iran. I mean, these are countries. my question is did those countries get together and say guess what we want to have a specific policy that targets tbtl on youtube i think it's possible that was part of some high level bilateral negotiation between these various countries that tend to be run by people who are

00:31:13 - 00:31:32 | Speaker 2:

pretty bad are you concerned that tbtl has potentially thrown or is throwing the u.s into an international dispute with these countries again because they hate fun and we love fun and we're just trying to do our jobs and raise some money for tbtl it's a real concern um and so to

00:31:32 - 00:32:16 | Speaker 1:

avoid that i would just like to play this please this is our new tbtl-a-thon 12 contentless delivery theme song slash dazzling donor music why do you think bad to the bone is free it's instrumental it's not by the original artist i see oh we have a little okay okay all right sure take that iran yeah i just think this is my this this is my theory and i could be wrong my theory is this song not being the original being some obscure instrumental cover of the song it's not going to have whatever metadata is in it that the youtube spiders can

00:32:16 - 00:32:43 | Speaker 2:

catch and we're mostly talking over it too i really do think what got us in trouble was Think of the three songs I heard he said in trouble It's like me every time Somebody gives me a dirty look I'm like stop hollering at me But you know the three songs That were flagged by these great countries These bastions of freedom Were songs that we played Totally in the clear without really Talking over them much so I think we're Probably fine

00:32:43 - 00:32:55 | Speaker 1:

Do you consider us freedom fighters Like in the fact that we're Pushing back against these autocratic administrations that want to stop us from playing Our House by Crosby, Stills, and Nash. I certainly feel like

00:32:55 - 00:33:03 | Speaker 2:

we're on the right side of history here. The only people who are against what we're doing are terrible countries and those damn musicians

00:33:03 - 00:33:09 | Speaker 1:

who want to get paid. You will know them by their deeds, okay? Do you think David Crosby's hurting for cash?

00:33:10 - 00:33:11 | Speaker 2:

Maybe. I don't know what's going on with him

00:33:11 - 00:33:14 | Speaker 1:

these days. I think David Crosby is just

00:33:14 - 00:33:15 | Speaker 2:

fine. He's hiding it in his mustache.

00:33:16 - 00:33:30 | Speaker 1:

You know who else is a freedom fighter? Barbara West in San Jose, California She's our dazzling donor today She donated a dazzling Amount of dough during the last Of these TBTL-a-thon events

00:33:30 - 00:34:04 | Speaker 2:

In fact, I mean I think it's okay to say this I think this is probably our final dazzling donor Message ever This is the last episode, y'all Of this season, so these are folks who were donated At the dazzling level Last year, I'm sorry to interrupt you, Luke I don't know if I interrupted your flow there I was in a zone. Sorry, but I just thought that was kind of special. And San Jose Barbie has been with us for a really long time as a listener of TBTL, probably long before I was even a part of this wagon. So anyway, it's special to go out with a note from her, I think.

00:34:04 - 00:35:11 | Speaker 1:

Yes, thank you, Barbara, for supporting the show. She writes, thanks for still being here after all these years. During this past year of relative isolation and quarantine, it's been more important than ever to spend time with my tbtl friendos thanks for always being here well thank you barbie we really do appreciate you and we appreciate everybody who supported tbtl again during this past year which was obviously really pretty unprecedented for all of us and we only got here to adam and carrie's house in fortuna california with our little setup because of the generosity and kindness of the TBTL listeners. So if you're watching us on YouTube right now or if you're hearing this, you know, later on, and you can head over to tbtl.net and support the show, that would be awesome. And we do have some sweet thank you gifts for folks, right? That's right. Right, we have the, people are very jazzed, as am I. People are catching the jazziness emanating off of all of us who are excited about the sound machine. Which I don't have with me.

00:35:11 - 00:35:13 | Speaker 2:

It's in my backpack. Hold on, just keep.

00:35:13 - 00:35:27 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, so we have, Luke's going to grab his now. It's a little sound effects machine with 16 buttons on it that play all kinds of TBTL drops. So, you know, as we were saying yesterday, you have been listening to TBTL for a long time.

00:35:27 - 00:35:37 | Speaker 2:

you have been what if i just started the van and left well i guess this tarp would have come down on me that would be one thing that'd be you know what andrew world's funniest weather

00:35:37 - 00:36:07 | Speaker 1:

that could go viral that could absolutely go oh shout out we'll come back to the um the gifts in a moment here but um shout out to the listener who i think you saw this luke i don't know if it was on facebook or slack but a listener is encouraging tens to submit their funniest weather videos to America's Funniest Weather. You showed me that at our dinner at Applebee's yesterday over a steak that even my grandfather would like. There you go. So that is the sound machine that keeps on yelping at me from my backpack.

00:36:07 - 00:36:33 | Speaker 2:

We were driving here and you were obviously mad at me about being late. Now I understand the subtext of our weirdly icy drive here. Yeah, it was super icy. But we got off the freeway and your backpack literally was doing this. And I was like, hey, dude, your thing is playing my mom's voice. I'll say, what's up, Joe? And you're like, I didn't even hear it. It didn't sound like anything to me, Luke.

00:36:33 - 00:36:38 | Speaker 1:

Because I've just gotten used to it. It's constantly going off in my bag, and that annoyance can be yours as well.

00:36:39 - 00:36:42 | Speaker 2:

Next year, the next round of these are going to have an off switch.

00:36:42 - 00:36:53 | Speaker 1:

Right, right, yeah. So annoy your family. Annoy your pets. Get the TBTL sound machine. And, of course, we have this really cool cooler. It's funny to talk about a cooler. I thought the weather was going to be warmer when we were doing this.

00:36:54 - 00:37:38 | Speaker 2:

Here's what I think is going to happen with this trip. It's going to start with it being weirdly colder than we expected. Corvallis, your finger pins were hurting yesterday in Corvallis. It's a teeny bit warmer here in Fortuna, but not a whole lot, which again, Adam and Carrie, thank you for your, and Tucker mostly, thank you for sitting out on your porch, even though it's not warm. But then I think what's going to happen is when we're in Phoenix When we're at Mary the TBTL Virgin's house We're going to be like It's going to be 112 degrees and we're going to be like God we've got to get back to Fortuna Maybe Oceanside Maybe when we see Listener Lisa down in Oceanside In the greater San Diego area That might be the only place where we get Kind of in the Goldilocks zone of temperature

00:37:38 - 00:37:48 | Speaker 1:

The sweet spot I did bring shorts, I doubt I'll broadcast in shorts But I did bring a pair of shorts that I could wear If temperatures get really hot I'll just say also we have some green

00:37:48 - 00:37:54 | Speaker 2:

I'm willing to show a little leg, too, if that drives the donations. Yeah, whatever it takes. Or I'll show less leg if that drives the donation, whatever.

00:37:56 - 00:38:20 | Speaker 1:

We have some cool little pins created by our friend the artist Gigi in Minneapolis, Minnesota. This is the third year in a row we're giving away those, so collect them all, as the kids say. And, oh, I'd like to clear something up, too. We had mentioned that just before we got on our van adventure yesterday or the day before, You, me, Genevieve And your brother David from the basement Recorded, what are you calling it, a riff track?

00:38:20 - 00:38:51 | Speaker 2:

Well, that's not my name for that That's the thing, you know, Mystery Science Theater And these other kind of Mystery Science Theater Spin-offs, they've been doing That for years, that's the whole thing And I guess they call it a riff track Genevieve taught you that, right? Well, the internet tipped me off to it But then I didn't know what riff track Referred to And then Genevieve said, oh, it's a riff track So in other words, I've been seeing hashtag riff track Bounce around Twitter for a long time Because again lots of other people have been doing it But I never knew that's what it referred to But that's basically what we just made

00:38:51 - 00:39:25 | Speaker 1:

Right and people are saying hey how can I get My ears around that like Right now and it is being Processed right now so it is recorded It's in the can but we With the help of Kiki Lolo Are kind of you know People say efforting it We're efforting it that's one of those words that I hate So much like a made up word but like I hate it so much that it's kind of like it's like when you have a sore in your mouth or something inside your cheek and you keep poking it with your thing. It's a weird place to take it, but okay. You know, like when your flesh is just, like, ripped out of your mouth and it's just, like, you're bloody and it's just, like, you try to talk

00:39:25 - 00:39:31 | Speaker 2:

but, like, spittle and blood is coming out. You know that. That's how my heart feels when you chastise me for being late.

00:39:31 - 00:39:41 | Speaker 1:

And you can't. You're obsessed with this lateness thing. You were saying, you were implying that it was my fault that we were off to a late start because I prioritized the video in the wrong way.

00:39:41 - 00:39:44 | Speaker 2:

It takes so little to trigger you.

00:39:45 - 00:39:52 | Speaker 1:

Anyway, so what was I saying? Anyway. You were saying you have a bloody wound in your mouth.

00:39:53 - 00:40:46 | Speaker 2:

I'm joking. Okay. Was that all of the thank you gifts? Anyway, we're going to get that track out to you soon. And one thing that I did want to mention is kind of, you know, as we talk about the TBTL-a-thon and people donating, we're seeing the beauty that we often see at this stage of the fundraisers, which is not just people talking about how much they love TBTL, but like kind of coordinating and creating their own efforts online and finding ways. And it is so special. People are doing all kinds of interesting things on Facebook and on the Slack channel saying, hey, is there anything else I can do to maybe help support the show for people who can't afford it right now? Obviously, we're coming out of a pandemic and some people are in some tight places. And it's just like one of those things where, again, not to get overly sentimental or emotional about it, but it's like we're at that phase where it's hard to not get verklempt. Am I saying that right? Seeing kind of everybody kind of come together for a purpose and come together for each other.

00:40:46 - 00:41:57 | Speaker 1:

Majorly, like I am not on Facebook usually, but this week, because I'm on the Stens page, just seeing everybody talking to each other and trading funny jokes and getting each other's backs and answering questions. I mean, I say this all year long that the TENS community is an incredible place, but it isn't until I'm actually on the TENS page really witnessing it day by day. Yeah, and you're back in that now, yeah. Yeah, it's so life-affirming. And you have listeners like, I think it's Elisa Adelson, who has made this very cool TBTL hot dog art, which she's auctioning off. I believe it's a painting. It's also, I don't know, for people that are watching this on YouTube, you might be able to see behind us, we have some coloring projects that Irene and Julian did, and those were created by Alyssa, or Elisa, and if you go to elisaadelson.com, you can bid on this cool hot dog painting, which also has TBTL worked into it, and all the proceeds from that are going to go to the TBTL-a-thon. So people are just like coming up with creative ways or using their talents to go with creative ways to kind of support this thing and keep it going.

00:41:57 - 00:41:59 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's really sweet. Thank you, everybody, so much.

00:41:59 - 00:42:22 | Speaker 1:

Also, if you are somebody who has the kind of job where you have a shared calendar and you want to block out some time for this this week, because we have, you know, we got three more of these. And by that, I mean YouTube sessions. We're going to be broadcasting live at 10 a.m. every day on YouTube. Listener Rob came up with a pretty clever hack for this.

00:42:22 - 00:42:39 | Speaker 2:

What did he do? He put something on his shared, like, Outlook calendar that said something along the lines of, I am in a conference regarding live podcast broadcasting. He did it in some sort of corporate speak that made it sound like, oh, no, no, I'm efforting the future here.

00:42:40 - 00:42:52 | Speaker 1:

So that's just, like, a pro tip. If you work in an environment where people are sort of aware of what your schedule is, but you definitely want to block out an hour to two hours to watch this this week. Right.

00:42:53 - 00:43:01 | Speaker 2:

You don't have to say listening to a podcast or watching a podcast. You can say researching the future of new media. There you go. Yes.

00:43:01 - 00:43:02 | Speaker 1:

Hashtag webinar.

00:43:04 - 00:43:16 | Speaker 2:

Do we call it webinars anymore? I love that. Hello, and welcome to Top Story.

00:43:16 - 00:43:36 | Speaker 1:

All right. We've talked a lot about viral videos on the show. We've talked a lot about NFTs, but now these two worlds are colliding because the Charlie That Hurt Kid... Charlie That Really Hurt! That video will be deleted from YouTube soon because it has been sold as an NFT for $760,000, Andrew.

00:43:36 - 00:43:44 | Speaker 2:

Well, I saw this bouncing around. You won't be surprised to know that I haven't looked into the details. Who bought this? Who do we have to suck up to?

00:43:44 - 00:44:27 | Speaker 1:

It does not say. It just says that the family, by the way, their last name is Davies Carr. They said that they would auction off the Charlie Bit My Fingers NFT. And the winner will be the sole owner of this lovable piece of Internet history, according to the auction site. In addition to owning the soon to be deleted YouTube phenomenon, the buyer also gets to have the opportunity to create their own parody video featuring the original stars, Harry and Charlie. Now, this is where I don't want to be mean. I'll be mean. What do you want to be mean about? I'll be mean about it for you. I re-watched the video last night. Again, I felt like a real limited time offer, which is hilarious. I was like, oh, will it still be on YouTube?

00:44:27 - 00:44:32 | Speaker 2:

And it was. And I think I have that audio, too, on my computer. So if one of us.

00:44:32 - 00:44:40 | Speaker 1:

Will you give it to me on a thumb drive, and I'll put it in that special hiding place in my apartment? Yeah, that's right. Where I was hiding. How many years of TV, y'all, did you give me the other day?

00:44:40 - 00:44:54 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. Like, well, everything from your very first radio show up until I think like maybe June of 2020, I had in a hard drive to give to you in case like I have backup copies at my place, too. But I was like, yeah, but what if something happens to my place? There goes the history of TV.

00:44:54 - 00:45:25 | Speaker 1:

I so appreciate you doing that. And I don't want to say where because I don't people ransacking my house. By the way, Cheryl yesterday in Corvallis said, we all know what floor of the apartment building you live on. And I was like, how? She goes, because you said it. Yeah, right. Which I guess was kind of a dead giveaway. You cracked the code, Cheryl. Way to dox me. But I don't want people to break into my apartment and try to steal 12 to 13 years of TBTL history. But let's just say I have it in a very secure location in my apartment. I will say a cinematically secure location. Well, now you're giving away hints.

00:45:25 - 00:45:26 | Speaker 2:

Okay, sorry.

00:45:26 - 00:45:29 | Speaker 1:

It's in a VHS tape from Blockbuster.

00:45:29 - 00:45:34 | Speaker 2:

If you pull a book out of a bookshelf, an entire wall flips around. Yeah.

00:45:35 - 00:46:56 | Speaker 1:

Anyway, I was watching this last night and feeling like I was getting away with something. But also I was struck by it. So I hadn't watched the full video in a long time. And it's very cute. I mean, what's really cute about it is, you know, the kid, the Charlie bit my finger. But then it's the response from the little brother, the kid who's doing the biting. It's just he's got this mischievous look. Do you go with mischievous or mischievous? I kind of like them both It probably depends on my mood What do you do Adam Is it mischievous or mischievous Mischievous That is probably the more fun way Tucker Oh okay well He has to He wants to keep getting fed So like It's the mischievous look On this little kid's face Which is really adorable But also when you look At the YouTube video It links to like A bunch of other videos Of them like Ten years later Doing interviews about it And, like, no offense, you're not little cute tykes anymore. I mean, I'm sure they're lovely 16-year-olds now or 20-year-olds or whatever they are. But it's, like, the idea that part of this $760,000 is you also get to, if you'd like to, make a parody video with, like, let's be honest, some kind of hormonal, awkward-looking 18-year-olds. It doesn't seem like a huge draw to me. Like, you guys had a moment. You were cute. I know this as a former cute person. There's a window.

00:46:56 - 00:47:18 | Speaker 2:

Do you think Charlie bought it? Like, this whole thing? Like, do you think Charlie's like, I will buy this, I will have the rights to it, and now I will control it. Right, exactly. I'm trying to think, who would be more likely? We don't know. Somebody with $760,000. And we don't know the name of the kid who is saying. I only know the name Charlie because it's in the actual audio, so I don't know who the other kid is. Harry. Harry. So it could have been Charlie or Harry.

00:47:18 - 00:48:08 | Speaker 1:

Are these the royal family? I was going to say, 90% of the British male children are named Harry, it turns out. Yeah. Also, I have to be honest. With all the talk of NFT that we've done on this show and all like many hours that I've tried to understand it, I still don't fully get it. So the person who bought this. So, OK, fine. They'll delete it from YouTube. But you and I could right now just download it from YouTube. Right. Yeah. And we I mean, we have the audio. You there are programs that let you, you know, grab and download YouTube videos. So like right now, you and I could go download the video. And granted, it wouldn't be the original, I guess. But it would, you know, be pretty close. And then like the person who paid $760,000 for this, I'm I guess it's just bragging rights.

00:48:08 - 00:48:56 | Speaker 2:

And also, I mean, listen, I will be the first one to say that I am confused by all of this, potentially the most confused by all of this, and I don't know what I'm talking about. But it also does seem like this whole conversation about what an NFT means seems to be slipping and sliding all over the place because originally the NFT was, well, it's just a way of making a piece of digital media unique. In other words, you can own it. So, yeah, maybe you can watch some copy of a copy of Charlie Bit My Finger and you can enjoy it just as much. But somewhere somebody has the pride of owning a piece of sort of unique art by putting the stamp on it. But now they're entering this thing that you were just talking about saying, oh, and that means you have the rights to parody it. It would never occurred to me that these NFTs had anything to do with like rights beyond the actual stamp of the Bitcoin-esque thing on it.

00:48:56 - 00:49:06 | Speaker 1:

You know who they're working with? Iran, Syria, Cuba, and North Korea. The same people trying to bring this show down. The axis of no fun. Thank you. I do think that's a good show title, by the way.

00:49:06 - 00:49:19 | Speaker 2:

that's really growing oh can i also say in the chat i believe it was our buddy the stew bot who suggested the show title that's fortuna bro how did i not what is wrong with me andrew that is a

00:49:19 - 00:50:07 | Speaker 1:

that is a missed opportunity if ever there was one is that not an nft how is the the boston i mean not an nft no offense to harry and charlie but like that's a tuna bro that is a bro vastly okay we're going with thank you stew still still helping the show appreciate it we still need the donation though that's not um an in-kind donation even though it's a very good idea and it will be the name of today's episode i am wondering though will we reach a point since we're here this week trying to raise money for the show and keep things going will we do you think next year we'll be offering a tbtl nft that you know that is just in the back of my head too We're kind of like dragging it as an idea And yet I do Do you think that, I mean, I don't know. No, I don't think so. Will we offer people the exclusive chance to do a parody of TBTL?

00:50:09 - 00:50:54 | Speaker 2:

That's right. Nobody do any parodies of TBTL at all until you get our permission. I'm not, and again, just caveats galore. Like, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. Wasn't that a 007 movie? but um i i don't want to say that whatever is happening in the culture and the economy right now with nfts that it's not going to have any kind of play in the future but i have a strong feeling that whatever we're seeing now is sort of a pupa phase of this i just don't think that like five years from now this idea of nfts are going to be are going to be what we think of as an nft now it might be like a building block for something else does that make sense because i

00:50:54 - 00:53:13 | Speaker 1:

can't really explain what i'm talking about this idea that it's like you know stereoscopic photography or something right like there was a time when it was like they didn't have moving pictures but they had like some things that you know were basically like a um what do you call the little um stereopticon no but the but the like the the little consumer ones that were red oh a viewfinder view a viewfinder viewmaster viewmaster viewmaster yeah like yeah back in the olden days like before movies they had something that was movie-esque and they were probably thinking well this is as cool as this gets yeah right i'm looking through these goggles and i'm seeing something that looks kind of three-dimensional like it's kind of moving or whatever and and then yeah 10 years later it's like oh no wait we have moving uh stereo uh stereoscopic photography movies called we win you know so is that going to make it happen with nft is like right now what we think of as being this like cool very exclusive blockchainy thing there's just going to be a way more interesting version that comes along in 10 years and these ones are going to seem kind of antiquated they're the cosmo is that delivery service was they're the cosmo who knew that cosmo would have such a resurgence on tbtl over this if we were going to do an nft what would what what could we offer that could be the like somebody could could buy and then be the exclusive owner of splooch the turtle how do we do that because that i you said something since this is like a very even more than normal self-referential week for the show very navel gazey you said something the other day when we were like dry driving down here and and it was about splooch and we were talking about this week and and what we want to do and how we want to like see some folks out here in the in the world but do it from a safe distance and also try to really reinforce this idea and remind everyone of the tbtl community etc etc And we were trying to think What's the best way to do these shows this week And I was talking about Australia or something You said well you know we went to Australia Ostensibly to go to that bar where the dude Disappeared from but really what we found Was Splooch the Turtle Which was a totally random moment Where like we just You came out of a bathroom at a rest stop Or a gas station in Northern Territory And that will no one will remember the show we did from Laramont no one will remember the show we did from Larry the Lobster Nobody will remember anything

00:53:13 - 00:53:23 | Speaker 2:

from that trip except for splooch the turtle right right but without larima there's no splooch i mean i've said it a million times but i have it tattooed that's that's good for me to remember

00:53:23 - 00:54:30 | Speaker 1:

because i think i get a little anxious uh-huh i know this would be shocking to the people watching this and listening to this that i feel anxious about this because it just seems like what i mean you're just talking to your friend here but it does give me a certain amount of agita and it's good for me to remember that like we you know we'll do all this stuff but there will just be some random moment that will end up being entertaining to us and the listeners and hopefully that's you know what keeps people engaged in the show i guess critically the question adam is do you have any hilarious signs in your bathroom that we can that we can take a picture of and laugh about no could you draw one how how quick can you draw a turtle that has diarrhea we've already done that one another something else we need something new we need something new yeah all right well um i guess we'll keep thinking about nfts and maybe next will we'll have something like that although i feel like also we were like we offered the original nfts when we would like i can't think of an example but there were things that we would either give away or i don't think we ever auctioned anything off but like stuff that's physical and tangible from the show like we i i wish i could think of a good example i have an example i think

00:54:30 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 2:

well this isn't something that we've given away and again this is me oh no is that one of our t's on tvt on our beautiful tbtl banner is flipped did you see that happen i didn't even notice it happen um that's an nft that's a picture of right tbtl on youtube with the t flipped up that's it that moment that moment um we've never done anything with this but like i have i'm almost embarrassed to say this because it's like it's overvaluing our worth maybe in a way but there There is a time when I thought it'd be a.

00:55:00 - 00:55:49 | Speaker 3:

kind of a funny spoof if because we were with american public media and they were concerned about us using show pics on the website that were copyrighted for a while do you remember we just started drawing doodles like after the show i'd be like okay do you want to draw one of your garfield aka far yield yeah right um drawings and we would take that david crosby and then i would draw these little like um stick figure drawings like recreating scenes and stuff and i kept them all and what i would do is we'd draw them in a little notebook i would take a photo of it and then use that photo of the drawing as the show pic. Well, I still have one of those little notebooks with probably about 20 or 25 little drawings in it, and I always think, like, well, there's only one of these. It's like a TBTL thing. Someday we could maybe, like, you know, maybe we bestow that on somebody, but then I start thinking, like, I'm bestowing these crappy drawings on somebody? Who the hell do I think I am?

00:55:49 - 00:55:56 | Speaker 2:

I told you, my big plan was for us to bestow our signs on some people. Right. Well, somebody bestowed them themselves. Somebody bestowed them.

00:55:56 - 00:56:03 | Speaker 1:

here i go once again with the email every week i hope that it's from a female

00:56:03 - 00:56:17 | Speaker 2:

oh man it's not from a female all right any uh emails or v-mails that uh you'd like to share with uh with the folks both on youtube is anybody watching this on youtube yeah i saw i don't have

00:56:17 - 00:56:34 | Speaker 3:

i don't have data in front of me right now but i see there's a very there's a very vigorous vigorous there's a very um turgid it's a very erotic there's a very erotic conversation going on uh no please don't that's the history of the stens is people were already asking where the uh

00:56:34 - 00:57:26 | Speaker 2:

vacuum where the vacuum guy is hopefully in hell we used to have for people that are very new to the show which might be one or two of you probably tucker the papillon uh we for a while like the The origin story of the Stens is that we used to put the show on, stream it live every day, and use this program called Stickam. And, yeah, there was a guy that I don't think was a TVTL listener, but who would just bomb into the Stickam comment section, having at himself with a vacuum cleaner. It was very, very upsetting for all of us. And educational. I would just be hosting away with no idea. I mean, these were many times where I'm just in there by myself, Andrew. I'm just talking. Yeah. And then I'm just talking playing, you know, unlicensed music from Crosby, Stills, and Nash. Starting international incidents. And then all of a sudden, I would just see on the side a flurry of activity. They'd be like, vacuum guy's here. Somebody get him out of here.

00:57:26 - 00:57:29 | Speaker 3:

Did you ever have eyes on vacuum guy? Did you see the act?

00:57:29 - 00:57:32 | Speaker 2:

One time, and I can't unsee it. It was really something.

00:57:32 - 00:58:22 | Speaker 3:

There you go. Hey, we were just talking about Cosmo a second ago. This was a 1990s kind of delivery service that you were telling me about the other day on the show. I had never heard about this before, but you could like rent DVDs and they would be delivered. It was like I think you described it or maybe this listener, Zach, describes it as like a combination of a blockbuster and a 7-Eleven. Those were the types of things you could get delivered at, you know, on Cosmo. And it started off, as you said, as a bicycle delivery service. And, you know, of course, you know, well, here we are doing contentless delivery. Contactless delivery is huge these days. And this was, you know, a harbinger of things to come, but it was just timed incorrectly. But we got this voicemail from listener Zach who actually worked for Cosmo. Take a listen to this. Yeah, this is good.

00:58:22 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 4:

Hey, guys. This is Zach and Olivia. Luke just mentioned Cosmo.com, that delivery service back in the 90s. And I actually worked for them for a minute back in 99. It was during the Internet boom. And I was living in the Kirtland, Bellevue area for college. And they did initially start up in New York as a bike delivery service and then expanded into Seattle, then office up on Capitol Hill. But when they went into the east side, of course, you needed cars out there. So I was getting paid $15 an hour in 1999. That's not bad. Which is pretty good money. to drive my own vehicle it was 40 hours a week from 4 p.m to midnight and i would show up and check in and then i would be moved at the top of the list for a delivery come back from that delivery and then probably wait another hour and a half or two hours before i had to go back out again and so everyone was just hanging out in the warehouse um playing playstation watching movies goofing around and the reason they failed was i guess pretty obvious at the time it's basically a 7-eleven of a blockbuster combined but they um warehouse all their own stuff and the delivery there was no delivery fee so you know every time somebody bought like a five dollar pint of ben and jerry's i would go drive that out it might take me half an hour to bring it out there and I'm getting paid $15 an hour to deliver a $5, you know, Pike's ice cream or a magazine or something. So they eventually got laid off. And then a couple of months later, they closed down. So, all right, guys.

01:00:00 - 01:00:03 | Speaker 3:

Have a good trip in your van. Looking forward to hearing about your adventures.

01:00:03 - 01:01:00 | Speaker 2:

So that's why it didn't work out. It's weirdly reassuring for me to learn that it was as bad of a business model as I thought it was. Because I'm so, I have no head for business, which is why I'm here in Fortuna, California, begging for money on the Internet. This is not where your life ends up if you are savvy at business. So, so much of the time, I've told this story many, many times on the show, but not that far from here in Northern California. I was in Sonoma. I was at this big wig thing, and this guy was telling me about this new website he'd started, about messages. And, you know, and I was listening to him describe it, and they could only be a certain length. And I thought, this guy is a moron. And it was Twitter that he had invented, this guy Biz Stone. So that's kind of, those are my instincts. So I would have also believed if somebody said, well, you don't understand, Cosmo.com, it was meant to lose money because then it positioned them better for this, that, and the other. No, it just sounds like it was kind of a terrible idea.

01:01:00 - 01:01:27 | Speaker 3:

On the other hand, Amazon went years and years and years and years without turning a profit, too. So it did work for them. Also, though, I mean, I guess good on them for paying a good wage, you know? I mean, we want companies to be paying a good wage. I'm going to play another voicemail from you here. This is from our pal Juliet out in Boston. And this one, I will say, it is a little, it's a little wistful. She was going through kind of a big life moment recently and thinking about TBTL.

01:01:27 - 01:02:32 | Speaker 1:

Hey, dummies. It's not that wistful. This is Juliet in Boston. And I just was feeling really grateful for TBTL recently and thought I'd let you know. Today's my last day at my job, which is kind of bittersweet. My contract is up and it's fine. And I'm excited to, you know, have a summer off for a little bit and then probably go to grad school in the fall. But I'm just feeling kind of emotional. And I'm at my office alone, dropping off some things and, like, wrapping up a couple of loose ends. And I, I don't know, was feeling sad about being in the office alone. and then I turned on a random episode of TVTL from, like, a couple of months ago because I'm all caught up, and it's just really helped to, like, have some voices and friends with me here in the office. So just wanted to say thank you. Okay. Goodbye.

01:02:33 - 01:03:22 | Speaker 3:

First of all, I think I might have called Juliette Julia at the beginning of that. My apologies if I did that. My sister-in-law's name is Julia. But speaking of like that, that really moved me to think that that is kind of somebody's relationship with the show, not just like the constant kind of daily companionship that I have, maybe like with other shows that I listen to. But just like to go back in the archives and be like, I'm going to see what my buds were up to just listen to it again. Like that really means a lot to me. And just kind of coincidentally, you know, Juliet has been a longtime listener of the show, as has her sister, Catherine, who we met at the picnic. Oh, the twins. Yeah, exactly. And it's just kind of, and Catherine had sent an email related to the TBTL-a-thon yesterday, and I was responding to some emails. I was just like, you know, I just got this voicemail from your sister, and, like, it really does feel like a family, you know? And they're literally a family, and they feel like our family, too, and it's really special, so thank you.

01:03:22 - 01:04:42 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I guess it turns out that there is at least some value for folks to just kind of hanging out with people. And, like, what's crazy about doing these trips with you, Andrew, is you and I will wrap this up pretty soon, actually. We will get in the van We have like a five hour drive to Sacramento And we will just spend the whole time Just talking like we're doing the show Like we were trying to listen to a podcast yesterday You were trying to play this comedy bang bang Which we eventually got to But we drove like six and a half hours yesterday After we had been talking Both on the air and off the air For probably five hours From when we got up Monday morning To when we got in the van to drive here to Fortuna Or really Eureka And somehow we hadn't talked enough And we just continued I think that we're really lucky That our friendship and our kind of way Of just relating to each other And I guess our way of Relating to the listeners and the listeners ways of relating To each other in the TENS community Has created this kind of weird thing That is very comforting to folks And people will be As we just learned from Juliet They'll be just like having a moment Out of context from TBTL Like at their job cleaning up their desk And they just kind of want to like hear something that sounds familiar And sounds like they're co-bros And they put TBTL on That is like one of the biggest honors that we can have

01:04:42 - 01:05:00 | Speaker 3:

Yeah and again because I have Because there are things in my life I was listening to a podcast kind of late last night You and I had a lot of work to do After dinner and I told you this in the van Earlier today I was like kind of all jazzed up And it was all good stuff I was in a really good mood But I was also looking at the clock and realizing It's getting really late I need

01:05:00 - 01:05:12 | Speaker 2:

to go to bed tomorrow's gonna be an early day um well not as early as you expected but let's not bring that up it was gonna be an early day for some of us um but i get it you have to shit

01:05:12 - 01:05:17 | Speaker 1:

we get it you've been holding it in the whole show honestly my only regret is bringing that up

01:05:17 - 01:05:22 | Speaker 2:

i don't even regret anything about you my only regret is i knew i shouldn't have said that how

01:05:22 - 01:05:27 | Speaker 1:

much tp do you have in there adam it's plenty carrie thank you we're getting it thumbs up on

01:05:27 - 01:06:29 | Speaker 2:

Get it messy. No, but it was splooch indeed. Okay, so it was late last night. I got done with my work, but I was still in kind of like, I was just kind of in hyperactive mode. I knew I couldn't just quit my work and go to sleep right away, so I put on one of the podcasts that I listen to that is like my companionship podcast, and I don't mind telling you, it's our Buddy Beans podcast. Oh, sure. Cup of tea and a chat. Yes, and I just needed that. I just put on my headphones, and I puttered around a little bit, And I ironed a shirt that didn't need to be ironed. And that was my way of kind of centering myself. And it's just like it was relaxing and doing it so I can associate. And so I know we say this a lot. And I'm probably feeding a live horse here. How do we say that? Feeding a fed horse. I'm feeding a fed horse. I knew feeding a live horse was not right. I'm feeding a fed horse here. But I know those moments. And I've had those moments with radio and podcasts my whole life. And knowing that we are providing those moments Is almost overwhelming to me

01:06:29 - 01:07:23 | Speaker 1:

Yes, I know, we're super lucky I mean, I referenced this yesterday on the show But you looked over at some point and were like Typical Monday stuff The fact that we get to do this and come hang out And do the show for folks in their front yard That this is our job is like a pretty lucky thing And it's only because of people out there Listening to this and watching it on YouTube So thanks everyone And, again, if it's something that you find is valuable in your life and you want to go to tbchel.net and help keep it going, that would be totally awesome. All right. We should wrap things up. How? Well, that's the thing. Okay. I've got some options here. We've already heard Bad to the Bone Instrumental, which I don't know. Did YouTube cancel it? I guess they wouldn't know. It probably won't be for a few hours until they'll catch us. Right. Yeah. I've got, well, I've got something called, let's see, damn it. Well, no, that, let's see. How about.

01:07:25 - 01:07:31 | Speaker 2:

Should we sing something a cappella? Are there any songs that you and I both know? God, all I know is Our House by Crosby.

01:07:33 - 01:07:45 | Speaker 1:

You light the fire. I forget the rest of the words. Goodbye, North Korea. Or do we just roll the dice and we just do words by doves and just be the bad boys of public radio podcasting? I'll tell you what.

01:07:45 - 01:08:00 | Speaker 2:

Get that rolling, my boy, in the background. Do you have it there? Get it rolling. We're just going to talk over it. Way in the background. We're going to talk over it. I'm not going to leave very much of it in the clear at all, okay? Now, am I putting you on the spot? Do you have access to it? I've got it right here. It's playing. It's playing. It's happening. Nice.

01:08:00 - 01:09:07 | Speaker 1:

Hey, I want to say thanks also to Eric Stromstad. Big time. Who has now saved our bacon two days in a row per year. Also, Emily Kittleson and Sarah Van Dusseldorp, our dear friends and colleagues who have We've been putting together all of these thank you gifts and keeping in touch with everybody who's donating and considering donating, etc. Also, Christina Lopez has been doing a ton of digital stuff in the background and making sure that this thing gets on various media platforms. So thanks to everybody at APM who's helping us do this. We would not be able to pull this off without them either or you, the tens of listeners who are donating. And also a big thanks to Adam and Carrie and Tucker for letting us come set up in their front yard. I feel like we made a low impact. You guys are probably not going to get in too much neighbor trouble for this. Everything's cool. The worst thing is they probably think it's a taco truck, and they're excited. And they learn it's just a podcast truck. All right. Thanks for listening, everyone. We'll be right back here tomorrow from Sacramento, California. Lord willing, and if the Delica makes it, we'll see you then. Until then, have a great Tuesday. Stay safe. Take care of each other. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

01:09:07 - 01:09:08 | Speaker 2:

And good luck to all.

01:09:13 - 01:09:16 | Speaker 1:

Power out.

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