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Well, I just think I'd feel much better about it if we could lock down a great representation visually of what my brand is. Okay, so how exactly would you describe your brand? Like, aesthetically or cinematographically, if that's a word. It's not. I feel like it's everything you loved about the classic movies of our childhood, like Sandlot, Billy Madison, Apocalypse Now, Happy Gilmore, Clueless. But at the same time, I feel like my brand is not rooted in the past. It's actually very forward-thinking and, like, futuristic. It's like, imagine like what 2090 is like, but like it's being described by someone who's from 1920.

TBTL. Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is? It's Friday. Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend.

So I'm what's known as a psychic medium, but I'm also clairsentient, which means that I feel my angels. I'm also clairvoyant, which means I can see. I'm also clairaudient, which is most of the time I actually hear. I hear voices, and I also do financial advising.

I'm not handling this well. I don't feel competent. I'm depressed.

It's kind of weird. I feel like I'm being interrogated, but by someone who doesn't really want to know anything important.

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TBTL. Jalapeno! The show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I feel warm, and I'm levitating. Coming to you from the Nest Broadcast Center high in the sky above Portland, Oregon. My goodness. It's going to be very hot. It's going to be very uncomfortable for everybody. I mean, this is really something, what is happening here in the Northwest, and I know other places, but because I center myself in the narrative, what is happening in Portland and Seattle, temperature-wise, is really, really unprecedented. I mean, we are looking at possible temperatures of 111 degrees in Portland this weekend.

Feel, feel, feel, feel, feel, feel my heat. Feel my heat.

Yeah. I mean, I had to record some stuff earlier from this room, and I had to turn off the climate control in here, the air conditioning, because there is a fan, which you can probably hear in the background, and for TBTL purposes, you know, we fam. We good. You guys know I need to have the air on so I don't melt in here. But for this other project, we not fam, we not good. And so I had to turn it off. And I was recording for like maybe 15, 20 minutes. And I thought I was going to. I really was sitting in a pool of my own sweat after just a few minutes indoors. And we are. We're still many, many degrees away from where things are going to end up. But anyway, we're going to get through it together. As long as the recording sticks to the tape, as long as that doesn't melt, we should be all right here on episode 3,453. in a collector's series.

Let the fun begin.

There is a herd of elephants. Herd of elephant? Herd of elephant? There are some elephants that are wandering around China. How about like pranking an animal? Which they've been doing this for like a year and scientists don't understand why it's happening, but it's very adorable. Except for the fact that they might be doing it because their normal habitat has been destroyed, which is somewhere south of adorable. So we will investigate what's going on with that. Also, we'll try to figure out why we're getting worse at the prices, right? Sounds expensive. There's a Harvard study out about why people are doing so much less. Not the, like, you know, games. Not putting. Not hole-in-one or two or plinko. But the part where we're guessing the prices of things. We're bad at that now for some reason. And also an interesting little story from the Atlantic's blog today. Now that's interesting. About why the modern version of the ketchup bottle is the way it is.

The red magic that puts more fun into everyday eating.

You know, the old glass ketchup bottle had its own set of problems. It was tough to get the ketchup out, then too much came out. But the new ones, where they're squeezable and there's the hole in the ketchup for the ketchup is at the bottom of the bottle. those have their own problems this guy at the atlantic looked into it from a scientific perspective and uh we will report on that plus because it's a fryer shout out to our friend bean uh we'll do music for your weekend we'll do all that with the help of this young man longest running co-bro of the show maybe best known for his love

white claw impossible is nothing to him it is so impossible to describe the noise that i'm about to try to describe he's andrew welsh and he's joining me right now from the roosevelt neighborhood

of seattle washington good morning my friend how you doing i'm all right well it turns out by the way for those who heard otherwise there are laws when you're drinking claws if you heard otherwise that's a misnomer turns out you are held with the same laws of physics and man did you fall off your roof last night

is this what you're trying to tell me

when I started drinking the White Claws which you just reminded me at the beginning of the show I actually have gone a couple of days without a White Claw I'm fine, I mean I'm mostly fine I should have one right now, shouldn't I is that what you're saying, I should just have one I actually wish I did have something I could crack open just for the sound effect right now. It would make the joke better. But, yeah, as soon as I started drinking White Claws, Genevieve started telling me, well, there are no laws when you're drinking Claws, which I'm sure is a tired, tired joke from probably, like, three years ago when everybody else started drinking White Claw. But I looked it up. It's false. It doesn't hold up in the court. So just you should know that.

Well, in Florida, there is. Ron DeSantos has actually signed a couple of executive orders. You're absolutely right. It's actually promoting White Claws a vaccine. Which vaccine did you get? Oh, have you been down to the, what's the name of our bar we're going to open in Key West? The Rusty Nail? Oh, no.

What is it? Did you see? I actually photoshopped. I found another beach bar online and photoshopped. I spent like an hour. The Rusty Pelican? No, because it was the Rusty Crawdad.

The Rusty Crawdad.

I made a fake Rusty Crawdad. Go to TBTL right now, Luke. I need you to see our future bar. TBTL.net? TBTL.net. That's where you can get all your TBTL shows. it's where you can sign up for the TBTL newsletter now we're just going to go back oh for some reason by the way I don't know what's going on I mentioned this to you in a text message but last Tuesday's show June the 15th has like double the listenership of any other show we've done in years I don't know why that was called negligible poundage maybe it's the untoward title that drew people to it I don't know what's going on if we have any new listeners who can explain why you were drawn to that episode and stuck around although the numbers wouldn't indicate anybody stuck around that's why yeah that's the bummer by the way first first of all i'm looking at the rusty

crayfish and i love it uh-huh not bad right i spent a lot of time there with a white claw it is proof of vaccination that's right it's considered a vax location actually um the uh the my theory and this sounds a little back patty this sounds like i'm trying to congratulate myself but my theory is that maybe the first couple shows of of tbtl this week had a couple of new ear balls on them because it happened uh over the weekend i was on wait wait and i you know they i assiduously have them promote tbtl probably to the annoyance of the livewire staff but i'm like listen my podcast is on life support i'm like we got to promote tbtl so they start by saying, and now the host of the daily confessional podcast, TBTL. And my guess is some statistically significant for our numbers, a number of people hear that and they go, okay, I'll give this a day in court. And they do. And then they never come back.

It's just, but you've been on Wait, Wait before, and I know that you had a good game this time, and maybe that could contribute to it.

Have you tracked it, though?

But I've never seen, I mean, I do look at the numbers, and I've never seen just suddenly one show. And keep in mind, this was on a Tuesday, not on a Monday. The show's blowing up on a Tuesday. That was actually very much in sync. It probably sounded out of sync to you, but it was good on my end. But double the numbers, Luke, like literally double our audience almost in most cases. So I don't know. I feel like – honestly, I feel like there might be a technological glitch somewhere, which is fine.

Hey, I'll take it. Let's get a W on this. Don't play that classic Walsh L when we're getting a classic Burbs W.

You know what we should do today? Actually, I'm not trying to get out of the show.

Did you talk about it in the meeting? Did you talk about it in the all staff? No.

Hey, by the way, our Tuesday show had double the normal download. I did not. But I'm wondering if what if for today's show, which I don't even want to do this because I actually am enjoying talking with you. And I want to do the show today. And I've got a music for your weekend song that's been going through my head. But maybe we just keep playing the hits. What if we like go to a break pretty soon and then we come back and we just play negligible poundage episode number three, four, four, five again and just see how the numbers do today.

Our audience turns over every 15 minutes. That's what they say. That's why you got to sweep the quarter dial your quarter. That's right. And so it's like, I mean, it feels.

redundant and repetitive to us but it's a constantly new audience and to them it's new

and you got to play the hits you got you got to play the hits i mean that's it play the hits got to get the dazzling uh details in there mad man it uh and don't let the editor in that's that's what i've learned in broadcast school i don't know what's going on with this heat luke i feel like we should at least address it you talked about at the top but like you know i mean well

i've been thinking about you a lot because well one i want to be clear i'm actually dipping out of town this weekend so i am although i'm going to northern california where it's also going to be

100 plus degrees do you know you're hanging with friends right do you know if they have air

conditioning i don't know but i do know that there was but we're supposed to go to a wine tasting on sunday and apparently the place where we had the reservation um called and said could you come at a different time because it's going to be 106 degrees and if that's the case we have to close yeah during the time so it's not like i'm not you know i'm not going to um uh the southern hemisphere where it's actually winter time right now that being said i don't want to overplay uh my role in this weekend's insane heat in portland but my goodness gracious andrew it is going to be ridiculous here and ridiculous in seattle and i've been thinking of you and vives because i do not believe you guys don't have any kind of air air conditioning in your place no i mean luke i am

there's something wrong with me like first of all i've been hearing everybody talk about how it's going to get hotter and hotter and i just kind of in the back of my head dismissed it as people being a little bit extra like i never actually read the story about it or what's going on i did read some story that was talking about the heat domes last week but i was like yeah it's been hot it's going to be hot some more and like i don't know whatever and now i think today actually looking at the forecast and kind of realizing oh yeah no smart people should make accommodations but I'm still like not quite that worried about it like I know that I just don't think I get worried about these things and then then they happen and then I'll probably complain a lot about it the hottest day coming up is actually Monday it looks like for here in Seattle it'll

be 106 on Monday I believe right and I mean look a few things one you and I and Vives are are lucky in that i don't think there's a health threat for us unless we were to go outside and exercise vigorously um but certainly there's a lot of people who are either older or have you know various health issues where the heat is really like actually a serious threat yeah and the other thing that they were saying in the seattle times today is the thing is seattle is the least air conditioned city in america and i mean that's a complicated thing in and of itself because of course part of what's probably in some way leading to an overall climate change is are things like we're all a lot in a lot of places air conditioning ourselves all the time like it's all energy right so the energy that is being output from all these i'm looking at a bunch of giant rooftop air conditioning units on these apartment buildings and by the way i'm running the air in this apartment right now all of that energy that is then keeping me cool is being redirected and distributed back out into the atmosphere and heating up the overall atmosphere that we're in right so it's like it's complicated that we're also using air conditioning that being said seattle a lot of people there don't have a setup for dealing with 110 degree temperature 106 degree temperature so that's something to be concerned about also what i've noticed in portland is because i actually love the heat like my favorite time to go to palm springs is in the summertime what i don't like if If I've gone to Palm Springs before in, like, March, and it's been, like, 60, and I was like, what gives? The whole point of coming to this place is it's crazy warm, and you sit by a swimming pool, and maybe you have an adult beverage. And when it's 60 degrees, it's not even, like, really swimming pool weather. So I like to go to Palm Springs in, like, July when it's 112 degrees. But that's because at that moment, my only job in life is to decide, is it time to get back in the pool, the hotel pool, or do I stay in here for another minute? What I've found in Portland is, because it's been in the upper 90s here for the last week or so, it's really annoying to live your normal life in a city that is not designed for upper 90s and hundreds when it's upper 90s or hundreds. You know what I mean? Like a place like Phoenix in the way that in the way that St. Paul and Minneapolis are designed for it being minus 12. Hence, you got all those skyways and everything is just designed for the weather that tends to happen there. What what we're starting to see at least this year, and I hope this is like a blip and we go back to some normal stuff, is cities that are not designed for it being 100 degrees, being 100 degrees on the fairly consistent basis. And I think that's where it starts to get complicated.

Yeah, it's similar to, I mean, it's sort of similar to snow in Seattle as well, like people from other places, myself included.

You know, I lived in two very snowy places before living here, Cleveland and New Hampshire, and I grew up driving in the snow, and it doesn't, you know, and, like, yes, it can be harrowing at times, and I've definitely been involved in many a skid-out over the, I don't know, skid-out, flick-off, flip-off, whatever. But, you know, I remember being in the car as a little kid, and several times our cars would, like, slide off the country roads, and some of them were scary, and some of them were just, oh, shoot, how am I going to get out of this ditch? And then as an adult, like, you know, it's all kind of part of life, but there's less panic around driving on snowy roads in other cities. And then people from those cities will move here and be like, nobody in Seattle can drive in the snow. What a bunch of wimps or that's sort of the attitude. And it's like, well, no, that's not it's not a bunch of wimps. It's an entire infrastructure that isn't prepared for the snow. This is not a snowy place. So, yes, when it snows once a year or maybe once every couple of years, yeah, there are not, you know, full garages of snow plows with salt ready to hit the streets. You know, there are some in case of emergency. You might want to talk to former Mayor Greg Nichols about that. But but that was a mayor who was basically felled by his inadequate snow response. Yet apparently the city had paid a lot of attention to the snow response in his neighborhood. But anyway, it's like it's not it's just like cities are built for certain for certain climates and we're just seeing a lot of fucked up shit.

Oh, OK. Now you decide to deploy the F. I don't know why I ran out reading. I just got in trouble for reading Rob Zombie lyrics yesterday.

Did you get in trouble?

I from you.

Well, no, I thought it was funny that you said you literally said MF and then you edited yourself later to say MF. But honestly, I should just cut that out. I don't know what I think I was about to launch into some more talk of climate change. I'm like, I'm not the one to do that. And I don't want to get into that. So that's literally what just happened there is I just my brain was about to move forward into some under some, you know, unstable territory. And I was like, I'll just say the F word power out.

The last thing I'll say on this is at least from me. You can say whatever you want, Andrew. I'm done. I'm not the boss of you, but I do need your thrive goals. by COB today um i i'm i i'm like you andrew i think i tend to think weather events are usually sort of overblown because you know let's be honest the meteorological industrial complex is looking for something to talk about as our local news stations and if you're going it's going to be really snowy this weekend or it's going to be really hot it's just something to talk about and it feels like it particularly as it relates to snow it often just like doesn't quite End up being the thing we thought it was going to be So I usually am like whatevs But I will tell you What I've noticed in this apartment that I'm in Is that if I don't have the air conditioning on It Becomes like People throw around the term sauna It really Because it's a lot of windows And it is It is just absorbing heat And absorbing sunlight And I had to I'm going out of town this weekend as I mentioned i'm leaving i left a note i wrote on the back of an envelope which i balanced on the doorknob so it's the last thing i see before i uh head out i wrote um shades and ac levels because i need to bring pull all the shades down i don't want to run the ac in here when i'm gone that's so stupid and also it's like makes you know it's bad for the environment and bad for the city of portland oh by the way there was a power like my power went out for like a you know how it does that thing where it kind of goes out for about half a second it did that earlier today and i was like it's beginning yeah everyone in this building is running their ac on max that's what i'm worried about i think we're gonna have brownouts that's that's more concerning to me so i'm i do not want to be running the air in this house but i'm also literally worried about what happens if it's 111 degrees outside and there's no climate control going on in this apartment like for instance i have all these um sound uh absorbent foam wedges and things that are kind of in this room that i'm in and they're all like they're basically stuck like they're they're not glued but i use this kind of like velcro type tape and they already kind of come down sometimes for no reason like i'll just come home after being out of town and there'll be one has fallen down and i'm like dang it and then i just got to kind of smoosh it back up there i feel like if this apartment is sitting here without any kind of like i want to set the ac at like 85 so that because i actually i'm wondering if i'm going to come home and if if i were to just walk away from this place and leave the temperature as it whatever it wants to do in here based on the temperature outside i wonder if i come back and all of the sound foam has fallen off the walls if like something has exploded like i'm genuinely a little bit concerned about what the repercussions almost as if you know when you leave your house in the winter and you don't insulate your pipes or whatever and you come home and things have burst i'm worried about the heat version of that well who's taking care of randy your rumba

when you're gone i didn't even think about are you taking randy with you is that why randy is

so well behaved because he's well so i'm actually i'm actually boarding him at a uh there's a fun place where they you can um it's packed though you got to get your reservation in early where

they board rumbas uh you know when people go out of town oh that's nice that sounds really nice um I believe what you're saying because, again, your apartment building is built for people to use air conditioning during the summertime as opposed to – so Vives and I live in this apartment. We don't have air conditioning, but we have a bunch of old, kind of janky, but old wooden windows that people who live in apartments are probably familiar with that we can open a few feet and put one of those little screens, wedge one of those screens in there, those accordion-style screens that can fit any window. That's kind of our steeze because we're still apparently in our 20s, and this is the type of place we rent. But no, like – but we can open windows on every side of our house and get a little bit of breezes when there's a breeze. But, like, your apartment is, like – it's, you know, made for air conditioning because you can't really, like, throw open a wide window because, like, don't – most of your windows only open a crack kind of, right? Am I wrong about that?

No, you're right. You're right. it's all very modern and like which i guess means the windows yeah they just open a half a foot out or something but they don't slide up and down so you can't really get it and also i only like one side of my apartment is an elevator shaft yeah so i can't like oh i can't get a cross breeze going so yeah this building is you know the ac is is i think they assume that people are going to be using the ac when it gets warm because it's not like because you know um burbank springs broadcast center in bellingham we didn't have any kind of air conditioning there and it was other than when i'd be complaining about it from the studio but like generally speaking there was no huge problem with temperature in the house because you could just open windows on both sides of the house and

get some airflow going yeah yeah so also you know i think you're swimming pool i think that you should uh that i no longer have access to well you don't want it though do you i thought you I hate swimming pools.

You know me, noted swimming pool hater, Burbs.

Right.

Noted not enjoyer of swimming pools, Luke Burbank, has finally divested himself of that troublesome swimming pool.

No, I think you're right. We need to be thinking about not expending extra energy because I do think that both cities, and I think a lot of cities will probably be experiencing. The last time it got really hot in Seattle, I know we lost the power, not for a great period of time. I think it was like an hour or something. This was last summer, I remember, because I was, like, watching the baseball game, and then I listened to it on the AM radio. What did I do? I remember I did two things that were very analog. I suddenly was like, well, we're going analog. But anyway, I do think that, you know, you have to consider that, not just running your air conditioner when you're gone for a few days, but I also think you're right. It's like when you leave the house in the middle of winter, you don't turn the heat all the way off because there will be bad repercussions. You've got to probably keep a little bit of air moving in there, even if you just set it to a pretty high temperature.

Yeah, because, I mean, I don't know. I don't want to overthink it, but it also seems like there could almost be—well, I was listening to OPB this morning, and they were saying something about how— You know me. God, OPB, how can I explain it? Well, Tiffany Kamhai is the ATC host.

Oh, you're explaining it really well. Do they have a midday show with callers?

The story does the news, and then enjoy Jeff Norcross's work in the morning, although today he's filling in on Think Out Loud for Dave Miller. So that moved a few chairs around. No, but I think they were saying something to the effect of if you are not going to be in your house and you have air conditioning, don't actually turn it off to zero. Don't turn it completely off. I don't know if that's because they figure when you come back home, you're then going to, like, overdo it. And, like, it's almost like, you know, like you're going to – Basically, taking your house from 120 degrees back down to 75 degrees is more work on your AC than just letting it live at 85 degrees or something. But anyway, I'm sure that we will be fine, Andrew, you, and me, and Genevieve. I'm just hoping everybody else is. So please take care of yourselves out there and make sure you're doing what you need to do because, again, this is some serious shit here in the Northwest. Speaking of serious shit, Andrew, I – oh, well, first, speaking of happy shit, happy birthday to my own father, Walter Burbank.

Happy – yeah, no, sorry. Happy Blur's Day, Walter. It was just such a – and listen, I'm not one to throw stones at the way other people frame things, but I just feel like speaking of happy shit was just kind of an interesting way to introduce this topic. Well, I was going to say, speaking of serious shit, I was going to complain about it.

But then I realized that was something that was going to probably could eat up another 10 minutes of show. And I know my dad only listens for the first max, like, 25 minutes of each episode.

I didn't know your dad actually dips in. Happy Thursday, Walter.

I don't think my dad could find this show on a map if you walked him to it and put his finger on the show.

Oh, okay. Not to turn this into a story about my dad because— When's Bob's birthday? His birthday is August 28th. I think it's okay to say that. That's some good shit. Oh, that sounds – actually, yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, see? No, see? But he is an avid newsletter reader now, and he saw the description – we'll come back to Walter in one second. Just calm down, Walter. We're going to come back to your birthday and celebrate you properly in a moment. But my dad is an avid newsletter reader, and he saw the description of the show last week where you and I talked about oversleeping for jobs, or like when you're an employee somewhere and you oversleep in that panicky feeling. And I told the story about the time I thought I had overslept when I was working for him, but it turns out I had just napped in the afternoon and woken up in the evening and I thought it was morning. He listened to that show. He said, I saw that description and I knew the story you were going to tell, so I had to listen to it. And I was like, man, I'm glad I described him in such glowing terms. Because I'm like, didn't I make him sound kind of like a ball-busting boss a little bit?

No, you made it sound like you really wanted to Make sure that he had a good opinion Of you because you had heard him Talk at times about employees who were less Than stellar and you wanted to make sure that you Never were in that category with him

Right anyway so anyway Enough about that I was surprised to hear that My dad was actually able to because I kind of figured The same thing I was like oh yeah well there's no chance That he'd be listening to That episode but your dad really does he Wouldn't be able he's not is your dad on the newsletter Maybe you should get that for him as a birthday gift

My dad's only What do you get for the dad who has almost nothing? TBTL newsletter subscription.

Oh, my God. I think we're on to something.

The funny thing is my dad is extremely tech savvy in bit torrenting BBC shows before they've been released in the U.S. I mean, I'd put him up against anybody on the dark web for that. That is not nothing. It isn't. He has VPNs on his VPN, baby. Like I'm serious That guy knows shit about And it's so funny because He's not getting Fast Furious 9 Or whatever He's not bootlegging anything That like is In a weird way To me it's a very victimless crime What he is doing is getting him and my mom Broadchurch before it shows up On their local public television station Which they will then also probably watch Or what you know But that world he knows Which one?

I'm sorry. I do a really, really, really bad imitation of the main character in Broadchurch saying Miller, which is his partner's name. Miller. So you watch Broadchurch. If I'm thinking of the right one, it was a three-season arc, but the first season was really, really good about investigating a murder in an incredibly beautiful part of the country.

In England? Mm-hmm. Sure. I mean, I don't know. I've never watched it. I have hundreds I have hundreds of thumb drives around here yeah I have it on it allegedly but

I've never taken the time to actually watch yeah that's the oh it's really good the first season is so good Olivia Colman and David Tennant yeah oh shit I love both of them that's my first she plays Mila um and uh their relationship is great I think I mentioned this on the show somewhat recently is one of those shows where seasons two and three were not as good I actually think three might have been better than two but we don't have to get into this but I just loved the universe so much that i mean i did not care about the crime or them trying to extend the storyline in various ways i just wanted to stay in this world it was both like beautiful and captivating and um the relationships between the people but anyway back to walter and his vpns on

vpns but walter outside of that is and he knows a lot of computer stuff related to making signs and you know graphics and vinyl letters and things like that so my dad is actually very tech savvy In areas that concern him I do not think The TBTL podcast is one of the areas That concern him, which is just fine By me, for both of my parents My mom about Once every three months Will just war dial me She will just blow my phone up Going, are you on? Wait, wait, this weekend

What is war dial?

Oh, that's just when you call someone over and over again Oh, okay, I never heard of that Yeah, like, oh, I'm going to war dial them You're just like, I mean, again, we don't really call people anymore, but back in the day when it was more typical to call people, just be like, you call someone, it goes to voicemail, you call them again, it goes to voicemail, you just keep calling them, you're war dialing them until they pick up. My mom will... Will text bomb me. Are you on Wait Wait this weekend? Are you on Sunday morning this weekend? What time is Livewire on? I'm looking on Facebook. I can't figure out. She'll just send me a barrage of messages inquiring about the media stuff I do, but in a way that lets me know. And again, I'm good with this in a way that lets me know that she's not tracking it moment by moment. And I think that's the right amount of interaction with the show for my parents. Because I want to feel free to, you know, give them a certain amount of grief on the show when justified and also sometimes when not justified. I don't want to be, like, constantly worried that they're going to tune in and then, you know, have their feelings hurt.

Can I do one programming note here that I'm just sort of thinking of now and it's going to be somewhat awkward? But, you know, the planets have Genevieve on the show on Monday. And so if anybody – I feel like people are fascinated by Genevieve, have a lot of questions for Genevieve that sometimes come in at inopportune times. Well, this is what we would call an opportune time. If you have anything that you want us to discuss with Genevieve, she will be on TBTL on Monday. Send your questions, comments – it's more of a comment than a question – to Andrew at tbtl.net this weekend, and we'll try to get on the show on Monday.

Okay, and speaking of programming notes related to our relatives, Andrew, I also want to remind people that the TVTL Song of the Summer contest is back, baby. And all you need to do is send an email to my actual brother, David, from the basement, who does listen to this show religiously, does not miss an episode. David, keep the stuff about mom and dad under your hat, please. David is once again going to run our Song of the Summer contest. I'm going to try to do this from memory, okay, Andrew? If you want to email David your suggestion for a Song of the Summer, and just in case we have a couple new listeners, in case a few of those people from earlier this week actually stuck around and they're like, what's a Song of the Summer? It's just a fun chance for us to play a bunch of new music that many of us haven't heard and then decide what we think is the Song of the Summer. so one it's like these need to be new songs relatively new songs like I'm sure that there's a great shy lights song you know that that you just love to groove on but if it's from 1968 it's not going to make this summer's song of the summer list so and also I mean I guess you can send in whatever you want but so but generally upbeat summary numbers are what kind of tend to I think do well in this competition this is the time you know it's summertime you're vibing all of that

stuff so uh send an email closer by nine inch nails because that's what i submitted that's kind of the right both time period and vibe we're going for i think more like white zombie more like american nightmare okay okay no that's fair that's fair so anyway this is the email address that you

want to send it to write it on the tablet of your heart dftb david from the basement dot songofthesummer, a.k.a. S-O-T-S D-F-T-B dot S-O-T-S at gmail dot com A lot of bells. That is the email address. A lot of bells, a lot of letters, hopefully a lot of emails. Do, you know, send in your suggestions for a song. The more suggestions, you know, the more fun we're going to have. Also, please put a link to the song. Even if it's YouTube or something, just put a link to the song in your email so David doesn't have to go chasing your song all over God's green earth.

So maybe Venmo him some money, too, or Cash App. I don't know how it works, but just like when you submit, I'm not going to put a number out there. You know what your submission is worth because he's doing this for free, so just throw some coins in the tip jar.

Sure, Cash App. I mean, foot picks, sure. I don't think he rolls it out.

Yeah, I think he's better than money.

Yeah, exactly. No, him sending foot picks. I'm not telling the listeners. Oh, okay, I see. He's happily in a relationship with Alicia, his beautiful girlfriend. He doesn't – he does not need foot pics. Okay. I'm saying he might sell foot pics.

Oh, I see. Okay. Well, for now – okay, whatever. Yes, good. But, okay.

Andrew, don't tell me how to run my family.

I've just been sending him a lot of foot pics, and I'm just a little confused now. That's all. Yeah, and he's asked me to ask you not to. I see.

That's interesting. I apologize. Okay. Let's take a quick break, and then we will be back with more TBTL. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. I can already feel like this is going to be one of those days, Andrew, where we're going to have to just do a lightning round of the actual Top Stories. Okay. So, I don't know. Everyone just be prepared for that. Because this is not on the list for Top Stories, but I just wanted to tell you, I think you'll appreciate this slash this will get you steaming. I was trying to do some expense reports for the CBS network, and I—

had this mysterious charge from avis and i assumed it was just some kind of up charge on a rental car because you know how there's like the story about how they're running out of rental cars and because they sold them all during the pandemic they sold them no i did not know that well one of the things is during the pandemic people were not renting cars because people were not traveling as much and so the rental car companies to try to uh keep you know their their books balanced they were selling off a lot of their cars and so now they don't have enough cars in a lot of instances and um so anyway i just the prices have been wacky with rental cars and so i looked at this 250 charge and i thought that must just be some sort of add-on that i didn't see the first time so i took and it was it was said los angeles california so i was like all right so i just took the avis receipt from the time i was in los angeles back when i was doing that story about the abandoned mining town that one dude's been living in during the pandemic um i uh i i just took that receipt and i pasted it into the you know thing on chrome river and sent it in and it got kicked back by the cbs audit department they said this is not the right receipt for this and i like huh so i called avis yesterday because this 250 charge was showed up on my work amex like three weeks after i had even been in la and so there were no other i didn't have any other car rentals on like i went to avis and i looked at my rental history like this was just a random 250 charge that showed up weeks after the other rental car charge had been settled and paid So I called, got a guy who, you know, I like to say the New York Times help desk is not the New York Times of help desks. They are the New Yorker of help desks compared to the Avis help desk. Avis has the worst system for customer service. I don't even blame the people who work there. It is one of those things where the people answering the phone sound very much like they're not in the United States. I feel like there is something going on with the system where every time I have called that number for help on an account. And I, during the, you know, pre-pandemic times, was renting cars from Avis, like, sometimes two or three in a week. Like, not to brag, but, you know, I've been to Hogwarts. I'm a freaking Avis wizard. Yeah. And and so when you rent like 300 cars a year or whatever, you end up with a lot of little moments where there's a weird charge or there's like, why did this end up costing this? And every time I've ever called their customer service line, they have been unable to help me with it. They've been confused by what's going on. They have been like, this is not our department. We'll transfer you to another department. We'll send a note. And then to the other department, the other department never emails me.

It is a black. Do they say file a ticket? I hate those. Yes. So much.

It is just a black hole Nothing ever gets fixed In a satisfactory manner They always say they're going to send you an email They never send the email Or at least it doesn't ever get to me So I call I get the guy He's not unhelpful But he's like what's the reservation number And I'm like well this is the thing It's just a random charge He goes well I need a reservation number He didn't sound mad by the way

We're just going to charge your card for something imaginary And then well what's the number This is like we always say It's like Brazil Yeah.

He's like, well, I need the reservation. I was like, well, there isn't one because it's a random charge on my card that is not for a car that was rented. It just says $250 Avis, Los Angeles. And so I said, well, here's the reservation number for the reservation in Los Angeles weeks before that. Maybe these are related. So I give him that one. He's typing around for a while. I don't know. 10, 15 minutes go by of him trying to figure it out. And then finally he's like, he goes, oh, he goes, oh, yeah, the problem was you were smoking in the car. What? Andrew, when I tell you that I almost hit the roof of my apartment, and one of the things I love about this apartment, it has pretty high ceilings. It does. I'll vouch for that. It has pretty high ceilings. So you know how mad I was that my body levitated 10 feet. Because check this out. I know the car smelled like cigarette smoke. You know why?

Because it smelled like it when you got in it. It smelled like cigarette smoke. Which is one of your pet peeves. I've heard you complain about that. Like, I'm a former smoker. It doesn't bother me as much. But, like, you hate that.

I don't love it. And also, I am very worried about them charging me for things like that related to the car when I didn't do it.

Yeah, of course.

And so guess what I did when I got that car at Los Angeles International Airport and got in and it smelled like smoke? I stopped on the way out. There's, like, a gate. There's a guard. And I said to the guard, hi, this car smells like cigarette smoke. could you please put that in the file and the guard said yeah sure i got you i said okay So not only did I not do the smoking in the car, I actually tried to tell them it smelled like smoke. And so the guy was like, well, you've got to call customer. And he's like, if there's smoke in the car or any damage, you've got to call customer service. I'm like, could the guard have told me that? Could somebody? Right. Where is that written? Like, how about a post-it note? You know, they put post-it notes in rental cars now all the time to tell you that it was cleaned properly and, you know, COVID related things. How about one more post-it note that just says, if there's anything about this car that you think you might get in trouble for later, call this number. And tell them so you don't get in trouble for it later.

I just looked it up. Luke, it was October of 2020. The world was still locked down. And I read a piece in the Seattle Times called A Hotel Charged a Senior Couple with a Smoking Fee. Their complaint, they don't smoke. I'm going to scan this now, figure out if there's any tips in here on how you can fight this. So how are you fighting this now? Where are you?

Well, the guy sensed in my voice that I was, that I hope, I mean, yes, I think I had, I think there was something in my voice that told him, this guy is not lying to me right now. Because I said, look, I don't want to, I said, because I understand this guy has nothing to do with this situation. He's just reading something off a screen. I said, look, I don't want to sound angry, I go, but I just have to explain to you, I don't smoke. I did not smoke in this car. And I go, and furthermore, I told them that it smelled like cigarette smoke. And so I don't really know what else I'm supposed to do. And he paused for a while, and I heard him typing. And then allegedly he took it off. But this is the thing, Andrew. He said, well, actually, here's what happened. He said, okay, I'll try to take this off. But then he gave me a lecture about calling customer service, which I was like, fine. You know what? It's like I say with cops. Like if a cop pulls you over and they give you a lecture, that's fine. Or if they give you a ticket, I guess that's also fine. I don't want a lecture and a ticket. It's one or the other. Right. And also, like, I don't understand.

What is he lecturing you about customer service? This is their problem. This isn't your problem. You don't work for them. Like, you know, I'm a little embarrassed. I went on and on yesterday about, like, complaining about our systems at APM. But the thing is, I work for APM. At the end of the day, they give me a check. So I have to play in their systems. What the hell is this company doing? I cannot stand the power dynamic between these companies and the customers at this point.

Yeah, he gave me a lecture, but he was taking it off the bill. That was the good part. So I was like, OK, fine. If you want to tell me that I have to call customer service, if there's, he said, smoking, if there's dirt in the car, da, da, da, you know, you got to call customer service. I was like, yeah, OK, cool, fine, because he's taking the price off, the charge off. Then guess what happens? He goes, oh, I can't take the charge off. So here's what I'm going to do. I'll send a note to this other department, and then tomorrow they'll take the charge off. I was like, okay. I was like, can you send me an email that details all of this? And he says, yeah, of course. And I said, and he goes, there will be one that will be auto-generated. And also when they take it off, it will send you an email and da-da-da. Like I'm supposed to get, I'm not even kidding, like between three and four emails from Avis related to this issue? Sounds like that will happen. Zero. Of course. Zero of it has happened. And he was, during the conversation, had allegedly sent me two emails telling me, like, kind of laying this out so that I have a good paper trail on what the deal is. Because I was like, I got to, I knew I'm going to have to call these people again and hunt this thing down. And I just don't want to start from scratch again or have another person who thinks I'm just lying about chain smoking in their car. So zero emails from Avis.

Do you want me to check the TBTL listener line? Because sometimes your stuff does end up there. Do I have a reservation at Quero in Portland? And a job announcement for a host position at another Portland-based restaurant. And something from Avis saying, please stop smoking in our cars, Smokey John. That is absolutely infuriating. And, again, the era that we live in where the customer is just, like, completely powerless because everything is just like, well, you didn't fill out the forms in triplicate. well why would you fill that out in triplicate at the help desk you're supposed to go to the customer service desk not the help desk like what these are your systems like i don't know what that means don't charge me 250 don't rent me a car that stinks and then charge me 250 bucks because it stinks when i return it it is absolutely infuriating don't rent me a car that stinks and then tell me

it's raining don't rent me a car that stinks and then tell me i'm smoking now here's the thing You know what my thought was when I hung up the phone? I thought, I'm so freaking lucky in this world, Andrew, because there are people who have this sort of thing happen when they're having a medical crisis. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Or they're going to lose their home to foreclosure because of some bullshit with the bank or the mortgage company or some predatory lending agency.

I was like, thank God this is the stakes of this call for me.

Yeah, right, of course.

You know what I mean? I really had this moment of just being like, oh, my God, if this were about my child's insurance coverage, my child who needed medical care for one reason or another, and I was getting this kind of runaround, and it happens all the time to people, If a bill showed up, a medical bill showed up for $200,000 for an ingrown toenail or something, and I'm just getting dragged into that Kafkaesque Brazil world, I was just like, well, thank God that this is all this is.

Yeah, absolutely. I think about that all the time. And again, this isn't even on your card. Also, you have this. This is kind of a CBS problem. Well, you don't want Larry Alardo mad at you. That's true. You don't want to burn that bridge. It's like a Tarantino character.

Is he the wolf? He's no, he's I was thinking more like Beatrix kiddo. He's just going to one day I'm just going to be picking my kid up from school in like Pasadena. He's going to show up.

Well, yeah, no, it is infuriating. But you're right. Like and I do that same math on a lot of things in my life, too, when I'm getting upset. I mean, this is infuriating and I don't think we should let the company off the hook for it. And that's why we're using the blowtorch megaphone that is TBTL to put Avis on blast. Let me ask you this. Double the downloads. Is there any – this is some unnecessary poundage. What was the name of that show? I already forgot it. Negligible poundage. This is some negligible poundage.

It also sounds like it could be a podcast about monetary policy. It really does, right? The negligible poundage rate right now on the LIBOR is definitely moving into the negative.

The Zen of Yen. No. I'm trying to come up with more currency names. A dollar makes us holler. But yeah, anyway, I understand that math of saying like, yeah, if this was something of consequence, can you even imagine or not even of consequence? But what if I was more, you know, I mean, also you and I like there was a period in my young adult life where I was broke as a joke. And, you know, if your car breaks down, you really have to start making some decisions, like major decisions. And you and I are both lucky that we're not in that situation right now where a couple hundred dollars can really impact, you know, our future.

Yeah. Addie sent me a meme, which this is the part of the show where I describe a meme that's really only funny if you can see the visual. But it's the first picture is it says my parents at my age. And it's like a man and a woman. And the woman says, let's buy a house. And the man says, yes. And then there's like a picture of a house with a for sale sign. And again, this is highly, highly memefied and stylized, Andrew. You know what I mean? So just like the way the characters are rendered is even part of the joke. And then so it's my parents at my age. Let's buy a house. Yes. And then it says me at my age. And then it shows the icon for a check engine light that comes on in your car. And then it's a cartoon of a woman. And she says, I will never financially recover from this. Yes. Right. Right. Yeah. Which I love – I don't love that that's where the young people of America are financially. I do think it's very funny the I will never financially recover from this meme because I think it's from Tiger King. Oh, really? Because he says that at one point. I will never financially recover from this. I don't remember that. It's become a pretty funny meme on TikTok just about things that are not actually financially crushing. Like you're at Wendy's and you order an extra thing of marinara and it's five cents and then you're looking at the receipt and then cut to Tiger King saying, I will never financially recover from this. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Anyway. All right. Let's talk turkey, my friend. There is a herd of wild turkeys roaming through China, and it is really something to see because they're trailing a herd of wild elephants.

Oh, interesting.

Which is making even more news. Well, in this business of show, you must have the hide of a turkey. There is this big herd of elephant that for like a year, Would you say a herd of elephant or a herd of elephants or elephants? I would say a herd of elephant. No, but seriously.

Because I obviously struggle with it at the top of the show. Is it a herd of elephants? I'm not sure. Now you're in my head. I think I honestly wouldn't. If I heard somebody saying either, I wouldn't have questioned it.

Okay.

But I guess herd of elephants because you don't say, yeah, it's not like geese. Like look at all those geese.

A flock of geese or look, it's a bunch of deer. I just wondered if elephants had made it onto the list. No, because you never say dears. Dears is not a word, but elephants is a word.

Right, yeah.

A herd of elephants has been wandering across China for more than a year now. They've walked over 310 miles. Nobody knows why they've been doing this, but some of it has been really adorable, and some of it has been less great for the people in their path. there have been there's a This one photo, Andrew, of them, of the elephants sleeping in the jungle, and they're all lying down on their sides, and they're all spooning with each other, and there's little babies and, like, teenagers and moms, and it is one of the cutest pictures I've ever seen. Now, the less great parts are when, like, they smash down doors of small towns or raid shops stealing food. They've just kind of, like, they're just wandering, and this is very, very unusual behavior for elephants. They don't know why they're doing this. This is the farthest known movement ever of a group of elephants in the history, or as long as they've been paying attention to it in China. A guy named Josh Plotnick, who's an assistant professor of elephant psychology at, wait for it, Hunter College in New York. Seems like a weird place for them to have an eminent elephant psychology department. I mean, I guess it's just research, right? But you'd think it'd be like this. The headquarters for this kind of study would be like in Tanzania or something? Yeah, closer to the field, sure. Like, you know, further outside of, like, Manhattan.

Yeah, right.

But old Josh says the truth is nobody knows why they're doing this. It's almost certainly related to the need for resources, food, water, shelter, which would make sense, given the fact that in most locations where the Asian elephants live in the wild, there's an increase of human disturbance, which is fragmenting their habitat. This is something I didn't know about elephants, Andrew. They're matriarchical With the oldest and wisest

Females leading the group That rings a bell to me Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that you wake me up In the middle of the night I'm spouting that info But that rings a bell

See I think that's kind of cool I mean I feel like that Bodes well for the elephants They're just letting the women lead Like I feel like that would Be a lot less drama in this country If we the dudes would just Step aside a little bit And let the women handle things Or the female elephants frankly They could probably do a better job. I mean, I'd take them over half of those clowns in Washington. Don't praise the elephant.

Show title? Maybe. I'll write it down. Although, it's going to be hard to beat. He's got VPNs on his VPNs.

This is something that I probably had heard somewhere, but I didn't think of or I didn't really know about. Elephants are close in their behavior to humans. In fact, they're closer to humans than other mammals. They experience a range of emotion like joy in birth, grief in death, and anxiety in unfamiliar territory. One of the things that's happened, Andrew, is as this herd of elephants has gone into towns, they're tightly packed. They're walking together in close formation, which apparently means they're stressed, which made me feel so sad to think about these nervous elephants. Like, okay, guys. It feels like something out of a Pixar movie. Like this nervous group of elephants, one of them voiced by Ray Romano, going into a town and being like, I don't have a Ray Romano impression, ready to go.

Everybody loves Dumbo. I haven't read this, but I've heard a few people talking about it on the radio in various places. And just generally speaking, it doesn't seem like it can be that great, right? Like you said, it's about resources. It's probably about the changing world, which is probably related to the climate. Nobody has said that. I'm just throwing it out there. But, like, yeah, this is probably happening because, I mean, they don't want to do this. They're just following resources.

Yeah. In fact, it's very rare for them. They're just, like, they're sort of creatures of routine and habit. Like, you'd make a great elephant. I was going to say, relatable. They love puttering. They putter more than almost any other mammal. And so the fact that they've been doing this. And again, these photos, so they've started following with drones because they're trying to kind of study them. They're trying to figure out what's going on. They also want to warn people who are in the path.

Oh, yeah.

Although the other thing that they've started doing now is if the elephants are going towards somewhere that's not good for them or the people who are in that area, officials have started putting down food as bait and also blocking roads with trucks to try to redirect the elephants to safety. So it's like basically a giant portion of the Chinese population is now following the progress of this herd of elephants and everyone's kind of rooting for them and trying to, which is also endearing, just trying to keep them alive. I mean, there are places, though, where these animals are poached, which is so, so, so troubling to me to even think of. like you would ever want to hurt there's a well whatever i don't want to trigger people i'm just saying the idea of the idea of like seeing a beautiful animal like an elephant and thinking my role in the food chain is to kill this animal is just so mind-blowing to me that anyone would be that defective um but um anyway china is following their progress and these drones are following everywhere which was the kind of cool thing is it's getting all this footage of them and in fact They're getting a lot of information about.

elephants they didn't have before because they're this is just a new way of studying them i guess and so um they don't know where they're going to stop or or when they're going to stop but they're out there wandering around china doing their thing so do you know where i first learned about

elephant poaching luke where twilight zone comic book from the 70s that i was reading in the 80s i told you my neighbor i was kind of friends with my neighbor i believe his name was michael jansen And his sister was a little bit older than us. And so she had a whole box of Archie comic books, like the thin, you know, the thin comic book, not the digest. Not a double digest. Not a digest. Single digest. Exactly. And anyway, I'll try to keep this short. So I've told this before that it's also very much tied to my summer memories of, like, listening to my McDonald's tapes and reading through these Archies. And in that box were some other random 70s comic books, including one of The Twilight Zone, which is still something that is created, by the way. Like, there are still Twilight Zone comic books. But this one I was reading was about – I'm going to spoil the shit out of this, too, by the way. I was taping that. So if you haven't read this edition of The Twilight Zone from 1978, apologies or spoilers. Just click ahead a little bit. Click ahead about five hours because I'm going to go deep into detail. No, there's this guy and he's running through the jungle somewhere. No, it must be the plains because this is elephants. So he must be running through the plains somewhere. And somehow he's identified as a poacher. Like I believe he's on the run from some anti-poaching group. And I remember he's got his like jungle rifle or whatever you would call that thing or his hunting rifle. And then somewhere out in the wild, he meets some magical old man who gives him a talisman that will allow him to live forever. And I think he even might – that's right. The old man has been living forever, but he's so old that he doesn't want this talisman anymore. So he takes it off and gives it to this poacher. I almost wonder if the poacher even stole it or something because he was a bad guy, Luke. And then the old man dies, and this guy is like, oh, I got it made now. I've got a talisman that's going to let me live forever and then he's continually chased by these anti-poaching forces and then he falls off a cliff and the final panel is him at the bottom of this cliff laying on his back him describing the fact that his bones are all broken into a million pieces but he can never die because he's got this talisman around his neck and he will just live in the state forever that story I don't know how much of that I got wrong happens to

Wayne LaPierre. Whoa. No, because that's why I said I don't want to trigger people, but there's – of all of the – I don't know why we're doing this on a Friday, but, like, there's been various things that have come to light about Wayne LaPierre, the head of the NRA recently. One was that when there had been school mass shootings, he had been getting he and his wife had been getting on some fancy yacht that their friend owned and going like literally out to like international waters because he was worried that people would come after him because he's done so much to try to increase the number of guns in this country. And then also there's this terrible footage that was uncovered of him hunting, quote unquote, hunting an elephant and just being like a terrible shot, being basically just a little turd out there. I mean, that was the part of the article that I enjoyed was just them roasting Wayne LaPierre for, you know, he's running the NRA, supposed to be this big Charlton Heston from My Cold Dead Hands kind of guy. And instead he's just a little turd out there With his glasses all fogged up And he can't shoot straight And the guides are like hard eye rolling Because he keeps messing it up Unfortunately the more mistakes he makes The more suffering there is for a beautiful elephant So that's why I don't really want to spend too much time on it But I would be just fine with Wayne LaPierre Living out that Twilight Zone comic

Oh amen yes By the way I mean people have of course Made the obvious observation that a man Who says we need guns to protect ourselves Floats out to the middle of the sea because he can't protect himself what's that i i mean and again i'm only hearing this part of the story for the first time and maybe i'm being glib here but is is there an irony in somebody who has helped ruin america by putting forth this idea that we all need guns to protect ourselves right but he feels like he's threatened and he's not protecting himself with a gun he's going out

into the middle of the sea right no you're so right like he should be theoretically like those loons in st louis that married couple of attorneys standing out in front of their mansion waving an ar exactly i mean that's supposed to be how it works right if you need the guns to defend yourself then it shouldn't be let me let me try to get in a private plane and get up to 40 000 feet and just circle the earth until this thing plays itself out right yeah it completely belie you're exactly right it completely belies the the well andrew it turns out i don't think that that's a particularly compelling argument that everybody needs more guns I know on the other hand am I suddenly arguing that everybody that Wayne LaPierre should just like you and Clarence Thomas yeah all right let's once again once again let's

move on to this semi-interesting story as to why people are getting worse at the price is right this was something an article by somebody named Dan Kopf and I saw it by way of pocket I'm not exactly sure which publication started out in but it starts with Americans are worse at the price is right than they used to be um there's been some research at harvard that finds that uh back in the 1970s the typical guess as to a price on the prices right was eight percent below the actual price um and then in the 2010s uh it's more than 20 percent uh this study found that the accuracy of people's guesses has sharply decreased from the 1970s up until the 2000s why is it that we are getting so much worse at guessing prices on the prices right and this is the theory from this guy Jonathan Hartley at Harvard he thinks there are three economic factors that are the most likely culprits first inflation in the US was much higher and much less stable in the 1970s and 80s and Andrew when inflation is high and variable people become more attentive to prices which is interesting yeah because like you know how inflation has kind of sort of rocketed up on a lot of things of late, which, you know, the Janet Yellens of the world are saying is a temporary situation. I have, for the first time in a long time, started to note, like, these kind of small daily expenditures, like, oh, hey, what is gas here? Ooh, four bucks a gallon, that seems like a lot, or, you know, various little staples that I will admit to the huge privilege of often, you know, going to the grocery store and grabbing the things I want to grab and not hugely noticing the price of, like, a head of lettuce or something. But I've started to notice that because inflation, which hopefully will calm itself down here. So that's one of the things. Inflation was higher in the 70s and 80s. So I guess people just knew what stuff costs more.

Can I ask another? Can I make a guess on this? Because I saw this on the show sheet, I think, for a couple of days now. No joke. I'm very interested in it. But specifically, I was telling Veeves that I'm excited to hear the story. And I was trying not to read it because I wanted to see if I could throw out some guesses. Does it also have to do with the way we purchase now? Does it have to do with online shopping at all? Yes, sir. You and Jonathan Hartley should have co-written this piece. Well, clearly, I should have co-read this piece with you.

Secondly, the rise of e-commerce may have made people less sensitive to price. Research by the economist Albert Cavallo finds that online competition has made prices more similar across sellers. As a result, people may feel less of a need to do price comparisons. So because we're buying stuff online more and because we can very easily compare prices, it means that the sellers actually know that they've all got to kind of hit the same price point. And so as a result, this is counterintuitive, we spend less time comparing prices because we know that they know that we could compare the prices. And so they, in an anticipatory way, keep the prices pretty close together, and therefore we then do less research on prices. I could see that. I remember I remember my mom when I was a kid. My mom has a lot of wanderlust and there would be predictably a time, usually in the dark winters of the Northwest, where I would just come, you know, one day I'd get up and I would just see her sitting like at the kitchen table and she'd have the yellow pages out. And I would knew what that I knew what that meant. She was about to start calling every travel agent and every airline in America to see who had the best deal on a ticket to get to Philadelphia. Wow like and she was I mean my mom remains a whiz at getting cheap airline tickets sometimes she does have to make four stops and you know you know she goes to like Phoenix by way of Detroit or something but she would get out the yellow pages and she would start calling around she would call literally call the airlines directly this is of course there's no internet this time and she'd figure out the cheapest tickets or who was doing deals then she'd call travel agency if they could put together a better airline deal for her or whatever. and, like, we flew to Philly when I was a really little kid, I think, on two adult tickets, so it was me, my sister Liz, and my sister Sarah, I don't think Hannah was born yet, my mom and my dad, so it was basically adults could buy a ticket, get one free, oh, so this is what it was, I think we bought one adult ticket, it was on TWA, buy a ticket, get one free, kids fly free under two, so I think I had to lie, so it was, like, my mom bought a ticket, my dad got the free ticket, and then all three of us kids were like riding on their laps oh sounds great you know what's funny is of course i was little so i don't remember the flight but i'm sure that i thought this was just a hoot and honestly i would walk to philadelphia

you before i would fly under those circumstances at this point in my life right anyway like i just yeah i i think e-commerce has made us less or according to this has made us less aware of the price of things there's just less of that price shopping the kind of stuff that my mom used to do then thirdly um there are more products than ever there did you know there are 50 times as many

products at the grocery store than there was 80 years ago 50 times but more than 50 times more More than 80 years ago, though.

So that's pretty far back. That is pretty far back. That's pre-Price is Right. Bob Barker was in his late 60s. He had just come off of hosting Joker's Wild 80 years ago and was ready to take the helm of Price is Right. No, that is – I think they're probably trying to look for the most jaw-dropping stat. But the fact that there are 50 times more products in the grocery store than there was, let's just say as of right now, there's probably – I'm going to just guess and say 30 times more products. than there was 30 years ago. There's just more stuff in the grocery store than there used to be. And so basically, we just don't know how much things cost anymore because there are more things and more things to keep track of. That makes sense. Rather than compete on price, companies increasingly try to differentiate their products in other ways. This also might make it harder for Price is Right contestants, along with the rest of us, to know how much stuff costs. If you ever find yourself on the game show, the lesson from all of this research is that whatever you think the price is, your estimate should come on down. So I guess the point is that we're overestimating in some way. We should definitely, which isn't that the opposite of what it said at the beginning? In the 1970s, typical guess was 8% below the actual price. People underestimate the price by more than 20% in the 2010s. It seems like contradictory information. The good news is neither of us will ever be on the price.

I know, although if you were to go on a game show, would that be high on your list? I don't think I have the energy level for that show. Oh, yeah, you wouldn't get picked.

You would not get picked. Well, first of all, you have to wear a T-shirt that says something crazy. I mean, now it's what's-his-name from the guy with the glasses. Oh, Drew Carey. Yes, it's Drew Carey now. So you have to wear some crazy T-shirt that says, like, Drew, I'm, you know, love the Seattle Sounders, because he's a co-owner of the Seattle Sounders.

Yeah, right, yeah.

You would not love the crazy T-shirt part of it. You would not love the being hyped part. You would not love the running down and everyone watching you part. In fact, there is probably no part of being on The Price is Right that would feel good to you. Well, spinning the wheel.

Oh, yeah.

What would your strategy be on that? Would you go as hard as you can or would you try to do, like, once around right back to the $1?

I'd ask him if I could give it a test spin first because I remember, like, I just want to know what it feels like. In fact, I don't even, you know, care about the winning so much. It's just like I grew up seeing people and it looked like they're really pushing that wheel down. And I always got the impression that it was quite hefty, but I doubt it is, right? Like, I don't know. I just want to know what it feels like.

I feel like there were some people that sometimes it wouldn't go all the way around and I was like man what a wimp but then other people would just like particularly it was like a big strap in person they just like yank that thing down and it would just like be going forever which that was the most satisfying right yeah somehow like just the more furiously that you that you spun that wheel the more I don't know it seemed like the outcome would be better although of course it wasn't that's not how it works I think if I could go on any any game show of course it would be jeopardy but of course i would be humiliated i would end up with all i wouldn't even make it to final because i would have negative a million dollars because i would just like what feels to me like an average watching of jeopardy what feels like i'm like i kind of got this i'm pretty good would be exposed for the sham that it is because what i'm doing is i'm getting questions wrong all the time but i'm not remembering the wrong answers i'm only remembering the right like the two right answers every round um but i do think it would be fun to be on jeopardy they should have a price is right museum where you can just do you can do hole in one or two

yes they should a play space my god is that not a thing how is that not a thing i would travel to that i would do that right i would do that yes spin the wheel get a feel for the wheel um like you said plinko is a fun one oh the little um and of course the the little the guy in the alps who climbs up the ells, right? The yodeler? Yeah, the yodeler. Hey, I have some pretty significant TVTL breaking news related to something we were talking about a moment ago. I didn't... Let's get this in here. TVTL breaking news. Still don't know how accurate my description of the entire comic book was, but I have identified that this was a comic. The Twilight Zone comic was from, I believe, 1977. Although I'm off that page now. Um. I can buy it. I'm tempted to buy this. It's $8. I can buy a copy of this old Twilight Zone book that I used to have. Not book. It's just a single-story comic. It's $8, but shipping is $5. I don't know if that's really worth it. But I have found here, Luke, somebody has printed, and I've tried to blow it up. I've blown it up as best I can, the final page of this comic. Can I read it to you? Please. Okay. So I'm going to – the character I'm going to call Wayne LaPierre. There you go. Wayne has just fallen off a cliff, and he's screaming, yeah as he falls off the cliff and then the two or it looks like there were three um i keep on calling them like anti-poachers they must be rangers of some sort right these three rangers are now standing at the edge of the cliff and they're saying should we radio for a copter and the other guy says what for he couldn't have survived that fall and then the third guy says right to leave his corpse for the vultures but then the comic strip says but at this very moment And now we're zoomed in on Wayne, who's at the bottom of this cliff. And it says, can't move. Every bone in me shattered. The pain. It's unbearable. Worse than death. Yet, I can't die. Not until I find someone to take this talisman from me. So he didn't steal it. That was the whole thing. You had to, in order to be free of the talisman's power, you had to gift it to somebody else. So this old man who was somewhere in the jungle or something, and it looks like this guy was poaching elephants and everything, so I still think this might be a jungle story. I'm sorry, lions as well as elephants. So he says, I can't die, not till I find someone who can take this talisman from me, but no one ever comes down this gorge. I could be trapped here forever. And then you got a little picture of Rod Serling saying, how long will it be before? That's not how Rod Serling talks. What was that voice I was doing? How long will it be? There you go. How long will it be before someone comes along to rescue Fred Mobley? I'm sorry, Wayne LaPierre from his living death in the Twilight Zone. There you go.

That's great. I like that even back in those days, we all get it that you shouldn't be killing elephants.

Right. Poachers were the enemy. And that's why I'm not joking that when you were telling that story and I was thinking about poaching, I automatically think of that thing. And it is funny. Like, you know, I don't have kids, so I haven't had that opportunity to see how kids absorb information. I hear people talk about this a lot. But, like, that will forever be my number one thing that I think of when I think of a poacher is I'll think of this guy at the bottom of this gorge, right? And it's like I was – this was not an educational comic. It's just where I learned about this idea of poaching, which was, like, a bad version of hunting, you know?

Yeah. Are you going to do any barbecuing this weekend?

You know, I don't know. we have um i kind of doubt it because we already have plans on both saturday and sundays we're going to other people's kind of outdoor gatherings yeah that sounds like a lot for an andrew yeah birthday on well i think well i'll leave people's names out of it but a birthday on um saturday and a little graduation party on sunday so and then today i think i'll probably just lay low uh and probably not do too much just recharge your batteries get ready well i was just thinking Do you put ketchup on your hot dog? Oh, you're transitioning. I do. I will. I mean, I have all kinds of different things I put on different hot dogs, but I often will put ketchup on a hot dog. Yeah.

Me too. I love it. In fact, I had a veggie dog at the M's game with you last week. Oh, yeah. It was okay. The issue really was more because of the COVID rules at Safeco. They don't have all of those, like, big open, like, little sort of bins of relish and chopped onion and all this stuff that, like, is fun to put on a hot dog. Everything was in, like, you know, single-serve packets of condiments and little sealed containers of onion. So just I didn't get the full thing going. But I will tell you, had that thing not had ketchup on it, it would have been way worse. And, you know, simmer down Chicagoans. I know that that's a whole thing with no ketchup on your hot dog, but I don't care about that. I love ketchup on a hot dog. I have noticed, though, actually, this thing that is detailed in this blog post today on The Atlantic, somebody named Ian Bogust, talking about ketchup bottles and what is going on with ketchup bottles. And basically the fact that the old glass bottles, of course, were a challenge because it would, like, be nothing's coming out, nothing's coming out, and then too much is coming out. And then they switched to the new, like, we're just using Heinz as the example. They're current, but I think this is kind of across the board, really. their current bottle is squeezable and it relocates to the dispenser to the bottom, but it's valve is so tight that the heap of ketchup that still comes out is huge with each squeeze. And what this guy compares it to, and I never thought of this is, you know, when you go to a diner and they've got the ketchup in that like red squeezable bottle that has the little, very precise conical point. That's

You

the way to go he's pointing out that that is the like you bait like and i've found this out too with the with the modern normal version of a ketchup bottle it's too much ketchup for a hot dog too much comes out when you're trying to put it on but you know what's the perfect amount are

those things at the diner actually you're right i hadn't really thought of that but you know sometimes i'll put sriracha on a hot dog i think i've said this before and it's probably not for everybody but sometimes if i'm not going with just classic ketchup and mustard i'll do like barbecue sauce sriracha and maybe like some sort of a spicy mustard um and yeah the sriracha comes out at a much better pace than the barbecue sauce or the ketchup yeah he was pointing out that like

really and i thought yeah the last time i actually put got the right amount of ketchup on a hot dog it was from one of those things it was from one of those little squeeze bottles and like why are they not making the the the new modern version of a ketchup bottle why doesn't it employ that technology which is the way better well it's because people want to eat fries with their ketchup more than they want to eat hot dogs with their ketchup and the too much ketchup for a hot dog is the right amount of ketchup if you're about to eat a bunch of fries just put some time

into it though man you know this is not relevant to the story at all but describing these um condiment dispensing units i just right now i almost i almost i feel like i just went to johnny's pastrami and back in my head in a second they had the perfect like mustard bottles there you'd have to they had mustard out but you always have to ask for the special spicy mustard and um and it came out in that kind of a bottle and i remember it being very like kind of a pinpoint stream of that spicy mustard probably for the same thing because it was so spicy they probably didn't want people to overwhelm their sandwiches i have not been to that place in a long time it's not your traditional i know we've said this before it's not your traditional pastrami sandwich it's like served on like more of a kind of a more of a baguette maybe it was more of a dip kind of sandwich there anyway fantastic place someday i'll make it back there yeah so they this guy

who's writing this piece he reaches out to the uh spokesperson for heinz and the guy says yeah we did a bunch of r&d on this and we figured out is that most of the people buying this ketchup want to either put it on a hamburger and they want a dollop or they want to have french fries with it which they also want to dollop so that's why it's that way that's why it's not more precise because they're the american people demand their fries and their hamburgers more than they demand

their ketchup on their hot dogs it is solvable though you know these and i on after these messages a while back we're talking about all the gimmicks i think i made a quiz about it or something like all the just ridiculous gimmicks that beer companies would come up with i haven't seen one in a while but you remember like we've put an extra hole in it so you can slam it faster or it's got this you don't remember these or remember that the rifled neck bottle of some of them so the beer will come out faster like it was oh and some of them had yeah spiral right that was

supposed to like somehow what was that supposed to do it seems like we just make the beer more

frothy yeah i don't know it's supposed to like yeah it's supposed to be a cleaner flow like all this stuff is ridiculous i mean the one that still exists is like the mountains come out on the beer can on the Coors can I do legit get hyped when I see that but anyway like if there was any I don't know if there was any profit motive for them to do this like what about a ketchup bottle where you can flip the one you can flip just the first tiny lid if you want the if you want the smaller stream and then you can flip another lid that is a wider hole below it if you want to open it up

more if you want to go full throttle i guess the problem there would be you would have a protrusion from the bottle that could then because right now if you think about one of these the way that these things work now they sit upside down so the ketchup is ketchup's always you know all settle at the bottom which is also where the ketchup comes out from which is a design improvement but then the actual the thing that you you know the nozzle if you will that's also pretty flat So the thing can sit in your refrigerator on the cap. If you had that little protrusion you're talking about, now you've got a whole different setup.

Well, no, that's a really good point. I was picturing it differently, but you could still have a – you could have a flat cap that opens twice.

Well, this guy also says just buy one of those things. Yeah.

I'm actually tempted. I've been thinking about that while you've been talking.

I know. I bet you that's – I bet you those things – you can probably go to a restaurant supply store and you can probably buy a ketchup and a mustard thing for like max a dollar total. And by the way, you notice I said go to a restaurant supply store, not go on Amazon. Yeah. Okay, Andrew? You shamed me. You sufficiently shamed me earlier in the week.

Well, I mean, by the way, back to that Amazon thing, I wasn't trying to shame anybody. And I was also trying to be honest that I try not to buy too much stuff from Amazon, but it's not like I don't do it. And also, I should say, for the record, we are Prime members. Like, you know, we pay Amazon the Prime fees every year. It's how I watch my favorite show, Patriot. Like, you know what I mean?

Right. Ain't no saint over here. The one thing that I'm good because I'm seriously considering this. I could go to cash and carry right now or whatever it's called now. And you're right for like for pennies on the dollar, get a couple of these containers. But I am already in my head about, yeah, but I buy a thing of ketchup in the store. Not all the ketchup fully fits in there. So now I've got like two bottles of ketchup and I'm waiting for the restaurant one to kind of to use it up some so I can top off with the other one. You know what I mean? Now I feel like I have to like my shampoo.

The conditioner problem. I buy this, like, Nioxin shampoo that's allegedly kind of, like, helps stimulate hair growth or maybe slow hair loss. I had a thought as I was getting my hair cut yesterday, Andrew, and I know we need to get out of here today, do music for your weekend. Oh, the thing I was going to say about my shampoo is I don't use the shampoo and the conditioner at the same rate. Yep. And they're these two big – they're these huge bottles because it's kind of expensive stuff. It's cheaper if you buy, like, a large one from the, like, hair place. but they're always running out at different rates and i'm always like oh god i got a spring for another giant bottle of this nioxin shampoo even though the conditioner there's still plenty of it or vice versa i was getting my haircut yesterday and you know how it is at a rudy's or i go to this place bishops where they like have all of these magazine photos like torn out and taped all over the mirrors it's always the thing yeah um there was one of james dean and i was looking at him And I thought, James Dean would have been fully bald by, like, 32. Oh, was he already getting the kind of widow's pee, kind of the— He was getting a very high forehead. I mean, he's a handsome, sexy, smoldering devil. I'm not trying to say James Dean wasn't the hunkiest. But I was looking at him because I had, you know, a lot of time to just stare at his kind of physical appearance, if you will. And I realized, like, this is a dude that I think was going to be pretty bald by, like, his mid-30s. And I don't think America could have handled it. you i just don't think emotionally we could have hung with that i've i i'm not making fun of you

because i actually respect it i think it's so funny your laser focus on that thing like i'm trying to think if there's anything in my life that i am super observant of in a way that others might not be and it's by the way you're not alone i think you have do you know that you have this in common with mike ryan of the dan lebitard show the producer i love that guy too he's just great um he hasn't been on the show in like a few weeks i don't know what's going on there they keep saying he's dead but i don't think he is no he took a break i saw on twitter he said he's just like taking a little time off yeah they just went through some pretty intense kind of production stuff but anyway um getting a hair transplant yeah well his whole thing is he has he has a list that he's never completed because he can just go on forever of people that he believe has had some sort of hair work and it's also kind of based on on some of your theories about people who have more hair now than they did when they were younger paint your bald spot etc etc it's an obsession my hair it grows sick but anyway yeah it's just like i just don't i mean i'm not i think there are other people you and mike ryan would be staring that i might just be zoning out and thinking about oh yeah i should watch splendor in the grass again was he in that i don't think he was in that um mike ryan i don't think i think he was how about rebel without a cause best boy giant yeah yeah and james dean was not you know am i right about this james dean was not in a lot of movies because he died so young like right his reputation looms so large over culture um but he wasn't he doesn't have like that big of a you know filmography right no exactly and like a i am

totally you're right i totally do notice if like somebody like matthew mcconaughey in the movie ed had like you know his hair was falling out which is no crime for one's hair to fall out it's happening some of my very favorite people including me but it's just funny when like matthew mcconaughey His hair is very, very, very thin in the movie Ed. And then all of a sudden he has a lion's mane. And we're supposed to believe that was just kind of his hair just spontaneously. I mean, he doesn't owe an explanation to anyone. It just live your life. But let's just let I'm going to let you know I'm going to note that. Or Jeremy Piven is another example. You look at his hair when he was on Ellen. Jeremy Piven played the fake George on Seinfeld when they started casting the TV version of Seinfeld. I saw that in Seinfeld. Yep. So think about Jason Alexander. Think about the guy they picked to play Jason Alexander. Then think about Ari Gold from Entourage and tell me that something didn't happen there again. No crime. Just like I'm just noting it. But the thing about James Dean, the reason I thought of it was because he did die so young. He is such an icon. He was so hunky. I'm not saying it was better that James Dean passed away, but I'm saying it would have been a very different world if we had. I think about this with Kurt Cobain, too. nothing about Kurt Cobain's hairline if we had like a 60 year old Kurt Cobain who sort of started having problematic takes how weird that would be like you know I again no part of this is an argument for people passing away at a young age because that's a tragedy when it happens whoever it is whether they're famous or not famous but it's just it's interesting

to me these people that get just frozen in a moment and they just never have the chance to disappoint us after that they never have a chance to just like go bankrupt or get weird or do something that we then are like oh man why'd you have to write that on Twitter like they just don't have the chance James Dean can never go bald Andrew yeah well a couple of things there first

of all this is a weird thing for me to say because I live with some of these I'm not not trying to argue with you over a hypothetical here because I understand your broader point for some reason And I feel like Kurt Cobain would continue to be on the right side of things. I do, too. He was pretty – he was like an outspoken feminist on a lot of things before a lot of people were, before a lot of men were. And I think he was kind of ahead of the curve in that way. So I like to give him the benefit of the doubt. But your point is taken, just generally speaking. Like you never know what's going to happen to somebody. There's a chance he could have become a Billy Corgan. I kind of doubt it.

Marilyn Monroe, anti-vaxxer probably.

But here's the other thing to think about, though. This, I think, is way more interesting. What if the world wasn't ready for, or as you put it, like maybe the world wasn't ready for, you know, a James Dean going bald at 30? Or what about this, Luke? What if James Dean going bald at 30 ends up changing the way we look at baldness in this culture and you're not spending your 40s buying this fucking shampoo? I don't know why I keep swearing. I'm sorry. F-bomb Andy is here. It's an F-bomb Friday.

How about F-Bomb Friday as a show title? No, I don't want to let anybody know I got a foul mouth. All right, let's do some music for your weekend before we get out of here and try to survive this weekend with the heat. Andrew, what music would you like to favor us with on this Friday?

This song has been going through my head all week. It's like my unofficial little song of the summer for myself now, although it doesn't follow any of the rules of song of the summer as you described them earlier for TBTL because it's from the 70s. But I played that song, The Letter by the Box Tops, I think on Monday's show, which, of course, got me thinking about Alex Chilton. And like whenever I plays it and I think about the fact that he was 16 years old when he made that. And then I think YouTube served me a video about him because I knew I'd played it. And I was watching an interview with him talking about like from entertainment.

I always forget that that's also Alex Chilton.

Right. Yeah. So anyway, I'm not going to go into detail. I'm already talking too fast and too much. Anyway, point is, I went down a little bit of a rabbit hole, and I've been listening to a couple of Big Star, that's his later band, a couple of Big Star records a lot this week as I've been sitting outside playing Cards with Genevieve on our roof, and I'm going to play September Girls, which is one of their bigger hits. It's so good. So good, dude. So good. So take a listen to September Girls by Big Star.

Sometimes the girls do so much I was your butch and you were touched I loved you, well, never mind I've been crying all the time Sometimes the boys got it bad Sometimes the boys got it bad September girls I don't know why How can I deny What's inside Even though I'll keep away Maybe we'll love All our days The Sunday boys Got it bad The Sunday boys Got it bad

it's for your like dazed and confused style summer i don't think that was in dazed and confused but it just sort of evokes that era for me more good news luke somebody has actually um taken that entire twilight zone book and scanned it in color and posted it online so i'm actually reading it here what's the name of it again it is called poacher's dream and this is a quick panel once we see our poacher he's got an elephant so he was poaching an elephant here he has an elephant in his sights. About poaching an elephant. Somebody says, drop that rifle, Mobley. Your poaching days are over. And then it says, hunting illegally. This is a... I'm looking at him right now. Oh, do you find it?

Yeah. Well, I found the panel, yet I can't die. Not till I find someone to take this talisman from me.

Yes.

Anyway, so that's how I learned about poaching. Is there also an actual Twilight Zone version of it? Like a filmed version? Not that I am aware of. Okay. The song that I want to play for the listeners this week is from a band from Milwaukee. I don't even know how active they are anymore. Wikipedia tells me.

They were mostly active from 2007 to 2011. They're called Kings Go Forth. They're kind of a soul band. And I found this song because it was on a playlist on Spotify of my daughters called 2021 Vibe Check. And I think you're going to really like this song, Andrew. It's called High on Your Love from Kings Go Forth. Are you able to locate that? I am. Well, I'm efforting it right now, Luke. You're able to effort that by COB? Here we are.

We'll be right back.

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la And baby, you are the only girl Who will show me another world, yeah I get high on your love High on your love

I get high on your love I get high on your love All right, so there you go.

Little kings go for it. Oh, man, that's good. Right? Yes. This just sounds like sitting on a stoop in Brooklyn, New York City. There's a fire hydrant is open. kids are playing in the in the water it's 95 degrees and 95 percent humidity and someone's just playing this on a boom box i wonder if anybody will be opening up fire hydrants in seattle this weekend i don't know we don't have the cultural history of that i don't think so you know you go to like the bronx or something you go somewhere where it's like a fairly it at least was a fairly regular occurrence as a way of cooling things down it's probably a whole like you know generational uh thing of people knowing how to do it i mean i would have no idea how to open a fire i would say fire plug if i was trying to pretend i was from the east coast but opening a fire hydrant i wouldn't know how i wouldn't know where to start i'd be so scared that somebody would yell at me i don't want to be the ultimate boss move if if it was just like i mean it's going to be so hot in seattle this weekend and if you just went down to a neighborhood where there's like a bunch of kids it's just sweltering and then you just like jump out of your car you've got just like a big old wrench on you and you're like we're doing this and you just open the fire they all come out they're dancing around in the water they're like Andrew you're our hero wow quite the fantasy sure and it's a turns into a um the meat cat comes out Pepsi commercial probably what that would be um our listener suggestion is from our friend Lynn nice I don't know it's a rare music for your weekend check love it awesome it's a good one too uh he says Hey, guys, I wanted to send in a song that I found by way of Bandcamp's daily feature of Flower Town. The song is called RCP, and it's a nice lo-fi pop song that seems to be hitting the right buttons for me. So, yeah, this is a great song and a great way to wrap things up here on a Friday. So that's going to do it for our broadcast week. Thanks, everyone, for listening. Thanks for being part of this. Have a great weekend. We will see you on Monday with more Imaginary Radio for you. Until then, do try to stay cool, take care of yourselves, take care of each other. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all. I like this already, by the way. Thank you.

We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Get slow and you're all alone Let the children's dream glow Power out

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