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#3461 I Think You Should Stay
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3461 I Think You Should Stay

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

July 7, 2021 | 01:17:52 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke is worried about the welders working on the construction project outside his window, while Andrew's worried he'll never get around to buying a new water bottle. Meanwhile, the CDC is taking Twitter heat for creating a somewhat graphic graphic aimed at keeping poo out of pools.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:36 | Speaker 5:

There are hot dogs I remember. Some are fried and some are boiled. Some are better not with cheddar. Some will bruise your eyes when wrapped in foil. All the hot dogs have their moments. Like pigs in a wrap with sauerkraut. I know I'll often stop and dream about them In my life, I love them all

00:00:36 - 00:00:51 | Speaker 4:

In my life, I love them all Do-do-do-do-do, bling-ding-ding, bling TVTL

00:00:51 - 00:01:02 | Speaker 1:

You're hungry, you're confused Your face is streaked with dry tears, and you don't even remember when you started crying.

00:01:02 - 00:01:23 | Speaker 3:

For one thing, I have no shame before another mortal. All my shame is between myself and Christ. I'll never drop my eyes to another human being. Notice me, senpai. Notice me. Ladies and gentlemen, let us welcome Washington's fearless political satirist, the court jester, on the poop deck of the ship of state.

00:01:23 - 00:02:10 | Speaker 2:

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Wednesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. It's an audiophile's nightmare. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host. Mimi! Coming to you from the Nest Broadcast Center high in the sky above Portland, Oregon, where I'm happy to report I haven't dropped any Roomba parts off of the balcony of my apartment. Yet, today. Slightly unhappy to report that there's actually a chance of rain here in Portland. I've been complaining, of course, about the heat. It's been very warm and very uncomfortable here in Portland. But now the heat's gone for one day and it's raining and I'm like...

00:02:10 - 00:02:12 | Speaker 3:

Hey, where's the freaking gabagoo?

00:02:13 - 00:03:01 | Speaker 2:

But we'll get through it together here at episode 3461 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. We've got a bunch of top stories to share with you, including the CDC's attempts to dissuade people from swimming in public pools if they are suffering from diarrhea. What causes diarrhea? It is one of the greatest mysteries in the scientific world. The internet is quite horrified by the gif or jif that the CDC decided to use on Twitter to try to encourage people to make sure that they were not suffering intestinal distress when swimming.

00:03:02 - 00:03:03 | Speaker 4:

You're a gross person.

00:03:03 - 00:03:10 | Speaker 2:

We'll get into that also. An unbelievably sweet story about a dog.

00:03:10 - 00:03:12 | Speaker 5:

I'll say, what's up, dog?

00:03:12 - 00:04:17 | Speaker 2:

In Spokane, Washington, who was sadly in a car that was involved in a car accident. The dog was ejected from the car and found a couple days later being freaking adorable. Aww. So we will give you the dazzling deets on that. and then time permitting, there's a flight from Boston to the Caribbean that was grounded because of a bunch of rowdy teens who refused to put their masks on and were being disrespectful to the flight crew. That would explain why we have so many drunk kids here. Karmically, though, the last laugh was sort of on the teenagers. We'll explain why. Plus, we'll do some emails and V-mails, And we'll say hello to this young feller, the longest-running cobro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships he's got his goose suit on. Really? I'm trying to build my beef castle? He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

00:04:18 - 00:04:48 | Speaker 3:

Good morning. I don't want to get too much into it. I know there's a lot of buzz around the new season of I Think You Should Leave. I know that you're one of the people who's buzzing the most about it, Luke, but I was very shocked to dial up with you today and learn that I am now one episode ahead of you on the Tim Robinson sketch show. I don't know why I'm feeling like I'm back announcing what we're talking about here. Everybody knows what we're talking about. You did not you did not dip back into those waters after the show yesterday. You're still one episode in.

00:04:48 - 00:07:48 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, first I was watching our beloved Seattle Mariners just absolutely implode against the New York Yankees. But I mean, the prophecy was foretold. I said at the end of yesterday's show, when it was just you and me, Andrew, just talking to each other, we'd effectively driven away all the listeners that the Mariners are probably because the Mariners are ascending right now and the Yankees are supposedly descending. This is the perfect time for the Yankees to just absolutely molly wallop us. And that's what happened. So when that was done, I switched over to this Netflix true crime show that I've been following a bit about this French woman, a very sort of like high social class French woman who was in Cork, Ireland and was killed in a mysterious fashion. And so I started watching that and then it was just kind of late at night and then I went to sleep. So I did not get a chance to watch, but it almost felt like it was like I had, you know, I baked a bunch of cookies or some sort of dessert. That's probably calorically not the greatest for me. And then I fell asleep before I could eat them. So now I have them. I can eat them today. Like, I'm just excited that I still have five episodes of that show to watch. Another thing that's funny was when we were doing the show yesterday, that is when we were doing TBTL, I casually said to you something like, I really wanted to just tweet about Coffin Flop. I wanted to just say Coffin Flop Like on Twitter without any real context Because I watched the first episode yesterday morning Before we started rolling on TVTL And then I get off of our show And I look at Twitter as is my want And our friend Chris Hayes Television's own Chris Hayes has been tweeting If I don't make it to my show tonight It's because I'm watching every episode of Coffin Flop And I was like He's going to hear me talking about it yesterday He's going to think that I was just basically Parodying what he was doing on Twitter No my friend And this is just two incredibly great minds thinking alike. Yes. Tim Robinson and the other guy. You know, Tim Robinson can skateboard very well. This is a clip that was going around. And I don't think it's like that clip of Owen Wilson. Wow. Where he was supposedly this insanely good skateboarder. I think it was part of some Spike Jones project, but then it turned out to have been kind of a bit of a spoof. There's this clip going around of Tim Robinson Like, I don't know Skateboarding terminology anymore But basically doing a pretty involved skateboarding trick And Like, just, I don't know You know, just on a street somewhere And it was like, wow, that is quite impressive Like, that's sort of like Bradley Cooper shifting into French Effortlessly Like, these people with these sort of Magic tricks That, you know, are just like this This huge competency at something That you didn't even know they could do Like the fact that the guy who dressed up in the hot dog Suit and said we were Trying to figure out who did this that that guy Also can like you know pull a

00:07:48 - 00:07:54 | Speaker 2:

Goofy footed stale fish jumping You know over a curb or something is There's a lot of talent in one person

00:07:54 - 00:08:53 | Speaker 1:

You something you said on the Show and I don't want to turn Today's episode into just a I think you should leave reaction Show in fact I haven't I think i told you before the show that i wanted to get some of the um some of the talk out of our system ahead of time because i want people to take care and we did yes we did we won't go into details of the skits or what made us laugh well it almost all made me laugh some of it makes you uncomfortable too um what i do want listeners to go on their own journey with that show whatever it may be i was going to say i am also surprised i'm on like three different tangents here but i'm also just kind of i am surprised that i'm a little bit ahead of you on it not because it's a competition But because honestly, like I really like this show, but I also could have seen myself being in one of those moments where, well, I just have video games to play and other things to do right now. And maybe my moment with this show will be when the buzz dies down six months from now. You never really know with me. Sometimes like shows just got to come to me and it's just got to feel right in the moment, Luke.

00:08:53 - 00:09:10 | Speaker 2:

And yesterday, I 100 percent assumed that that's what was going to happen. Because whenever there's pressure and everyone's like, you got to watch this thing. And this is the thing to watch right now. That almost always seems to cause you to hit pause on whatever it is.

00:09:10 - 00:09:26 | Speaker 1:

I don't know if that's necessarily true. I just think I have my own timelines with things. I mean, I really enjoyed watching WandaVision. And part of the enjoyment of that was watching it as it came out with everybody and buzzing along with everybody. So that would kind of.

00:09:26 - 00:09:55 | Speaker 2:

But when you say that was unique, like that's the one time that I can remember. I'm probably leaving some things out. But, like, you didn't watch Mare of Easttown. You did watch Game of Thrones, so that's another one where you were riding, we were all riding along together. But I guess I just, and this isn't, I hope this doesn't sound like a criticism. It's just one of the things that I've noticed with you is that if there's something that's getting a ton of hype, you're usually towards the back of the line of people I know that are, like, you know, binge-watching it, as it were.

00:09:56 - 00:10:00 | Speaker 1:

Sometimes, I guess what I'm kind of rejecting here is the idea that. As your friend?

00:10:00 - 00:10:34 | Speaker 2:

Yes. I think that because you have said this before and I don't fully agree with it. I don't think my tendency is so much to reject it because everybody is buzzing about it. I just won't necessarily definitely go along with the buzz when people are buzzing about it. Like I say, I would just say that sometimes I'm there and sometimes it takes me a while. And I don't know if there's rhyme or reason for that. But there's other ones, too. I remember, oh, like, this is a very silly one, but I loved watching the OJ miniseries like three years ago.

00:10:34 - 00:10:45 | Speaker 1:

Like, there are other things or, well, I don't know how zeitgeisty this is, but your whole thing with, like, The Crown and The Windsors, I did not see that one coming.

00:10:45 - 00:12:19 | Speaker 2:

Right, yeah. So anyway, so I guess my point is, yeah, like, I don't like to think of myself as somebody who's saying I don't want that it loses its appeal because it's buzzy in the moment. I'm just you just you never know with this one will he watch the winters or won he man am I a fun guy anyway my point is yesterday I was puttering around by the way if I had known it was going to be a Justice Sheffield start on the mound when we were talking about the Mariners briefly yesterday I would have told you like don't prioritize that like it's it's just it's just always a shit show. and so that was kind of my journey yesterday I got done recording the podcast with Genevieve in the early evening and then I turn on the game and I just see that it's already out of hand I'm like I'm not I'm not spending my time and energy on that I have other podcasts to listen to I'm puttering around and then I just found myself in between putts Luke and all of a sudden it just popped in my head like oh hey yeah now would be the perfect time to sit down and watch one and I did something kind of weird I don't know why or again what compels me but sometimes like I'm not in the mood to sit down in like the tv room to watch something i was like i'm just gonna go in my office and watch a couple of those it was a weird and again i don't know what that says about me or the way i like to be entertained but i just sat in my office and watched the the first two episodes and i and i uh i really enjoyed it now that i have seen it now that i've broken the seal i have a strong feeling that i'm gonna have to gobble the rest of them up i did forget you said that after watching one episode you were already sort of mourning the fact that There are only five more left. I forgot how short they are. They're only 16 or so minutes. They're not even half-hour joints, as I like to say, because I'm cool.

00:12:19 - 00:12:33 | Speaker 1:

Did my quick kind of flash review or quick turnaround review that I gave you yesterday of episode one, did that mostly square with what you saw when you watched the first episode of I Think You Should Leave season two?

00:12:33 - 00:13:24 | Speaker 2:

Yes, and I really appreciated that you didn't over-explain it. I feel like even if intentions are good, sometimes just even knowing the premise of something and just knowing what the funny joke is, like, I loved watching it. You're absolutely right. There are kind of echoes of some things from season one here and there, and there are definitely through lines, but it feels very much like the same show. And I love it. Like, if you had told me that this was all one season and it was 12 episodes, not season one and season two with a break in between and there's six episodes each, like, it feels very much along the same line. So if you liked the first one, you'll like the second one. But they didn't come out and try to razzle dazzle or like, we're famous now and everything's going to be a meme. Like, I didn't think that they would fall into that trap, but you never know. But, yeah, no, it's if you like season one, season two just keeps marching right along. It's great.

00:13:24 - 00:15:00 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I need to probably watch the whole thing today when we're done with our recordings and we have a few more summer games we're going to be doing today. But just so that I can stay ahead of, you know, spoilers is weird with a comedy show, but just so I can, mostly so I can be in on the fire memes and the clever references. I'm sure the StewBot has already deployed seven to eight. I think you should leave references that I've missed because I'm only one episode into season two. Also, hopefully I'll be able to watch the show Andrew because I'm not sure what kind of damage I'm currently doing to my eyes but you know that bridge that I've talked about so much that was being constructed in my neighborhood it's the Earl Blumenauer pedestrian and cyclist bridge and all construction had stopped well all construction has resumed on that they are putting some big platform like in the middle of the freeway now kind of in the divider that's clearly where the the the the bridge is going to sit they've sort of constructed the bridge on the uh south side of interstate 84 and it's i can see it right now it's sitting there this big white kind of art arched piece they're going to lift that up with a crane and place it over the freeway coming up but there are these welders that are working on the middle support and they are welding some like i-beam and it i keep looking over there inadvertently and looking at them welding now they're wearing masks while they weld I'm not wearing a welding mask I stopped doing that years ago on TV

00:15:00 - 00:15:06 | Speaker 2:

btl do you think i'm damaging my eyes i can't not look at them welding but i feel like it's a bad

00:15:06 - 00:16:15 | Speaker 1:

thing considering they have masks on well don't stare at it but they're still a ways a ways away have you ever put on a welding mask have you ever welded before i haven't i bet you have though i have manufacturing it is it is so hard because the arc you know the the i think it's called the arc the sparks that you see is so bright and so intense that those face shields that you wear with like the kind of the sunglasses center in it the let's just keep calling them the sunglasses the tinted the tinted glass is so dark that when you put on a welding mask you can't see anything everything is black until you start to see the arc so it's so hard to get set up to know like where where to set up your your welding rod it's i only did it like once or twice and i found it incredibly difficult i was like probably 14 or 15 under the guidance of either my dad or somebody else who worked at the shop and i had practice but i was shocked at how hard it is and one of the hardest things is getting used to knowing where to do the weld before you light that or i guess before the the welding rod hits the metal and creates that spark right yeah well once again

00:16:15 - 00:18:15 | Speaker 2:

Andrew my job is easy yeah because I'm sitting here uh talking to you about I think you should leave season two and these guys are like if they take their lunch on this I beam we're officially dealing with like a 1940s type situation they're like yeah they're like a hundred feet in the air are they strapped in they must be I can't it's it's a little bit far away for me to see that but they would just absolutely have to be because they're at it I mean they would they would die immediately if they fell from the height they're on and now to know that when they have their welding mask on they're in total darkness until the arc illuminates enough for them to see what they're working on they're doing that at 200 feet oh by the way over a freeway so if they were to fall uh whatever it is 100 feet onto the pavement and live unlikely but if they did they would then be hit by a car i mean other than doing this over an alligator like an alligator pond or something There's pretty much not a more dangerous thing that you could do. That's those guys' job. And my job is to sit in here, talk to you while enjoying technology on every level, Andrew. I have my coffee going over here in this cup that Addy gave me that sits on a heating device. I think the company is called Ohome or Ohome. And it's like a little disc that will, if I put the coffee cup on there, it keeps it warm. It also is a phone charger if I place my iPhone on there. And so that's the coffee situation. And then to the left of me, I've got my good ice in my powder-coated, insulated, what do you call it? Water bottle to me always sounds like something that's made out of plastic. Do you call this a water or a thermos? But a thermos seems like something your dad took to work in his lunchbox. What do you call this thing? Is it not a hydro flask? I mean, I guess is everything that's insulated a hydro flask at this point?

00:18:16 - 00:19:32 | Speaker 1:

I call everything a water bottle because I'm not super fancy. I didn't buy those fancy water bottles, by the way. Remember the other day I had discovered some kind of design-y water bottles? Andrew, don't delay joy. You know, I'm kind of glad I didn't, though, because I just was falling for the design of them. Like, actually, the way they looked, not even the practical design. And really, practical design, I need something with a little bit of a hook on it. And those things were really sleek. look yes i need the beat to drop and i need a hook like that's all i need from my water bottle or my hydro flask but i was really tempted i was like 40 for a water bottle and i was like you know what i like a good looking design but i also like a little bit of practical design in there too little design elements that make the experience nicer aside from just the way it looks on your desk and i realized something that would make it easier to carry you know i used to have a little finger hook on this cheapo Rubbermaid water bottle I have here it's gone now and I do miss it because you can you know you you're carrying all your gym stuff or a box or whatever you can just hook hook your finger through your water bottle and it can dangle why why am I talking about this why am I talking about a hook on a water bottle with so much intensity right now Luke I've had a little bit too much coffee I mean it's better than being brain dead on the show which sometimes I am but I would like to pull back from this at least my involvement in this conversation that I have

00:19:32 - 00:19:39 | Speaker 2:

created my apologies to everybody i just heard it submit an application to slowly back into the

00:19:39 - 00:19:54 | Speaker 1:

hedge like homer simpson you know what i just had away from this conversation that moment where you accidentally catch a reflection of yourself in a mirror that you didn't know it was there or a window and you're just like that's a oh shit is that what i do on this show like just

00:19:54 - 00:21:30 | Speaker 2:

i had that happen i've by the way i'm fascinated with water bottle talk and i'm Thank you. I've not yet begun to talk. I believe that was Patrick Henry who said that on his podcast. I've not yet begun to talk about these water bottles. But this one was a gift from Barsuk Records, the great record label in Seattle. They just sent it to me as some swag, I guess, because we've had some Barsuk artists on TBTL over the years. and it has become i mean i've got that herkin one too now that big giant one that i've been using kind of off and on but since i got this fancy pebble ice machine i found that this one is the perfect size what i do is i i mostly filled up with the ice i put some water in it and andrew literally over the course of like three days the ice is slowly melting and then just creating cold icy water and this is without the lid being on it wow i know it's very insulated and it it's incredible how long the ice will actually last in there and so it's sort of like it's hard to explain but i'll just have it around i'll have it on my nightstand or it'll be i'm consuming more water than the water i drink just out of this thing but it's just kind of like a i don't know it's a supplementary water source in this apartment and i love it so much but it's just something about the fact that in my left hand i'm holding this thing of full of ice that i bought on the internet and in my right hand is the coffee being permanently warmed by some whiz bang device that my daughter gave me, and I'm looking out the window, and a guy's about to fall off a skyscraper. I've just never felt more soft.

00:21:30 - 00:21:34 | Speaker 1:

What kind of water bottle does the construction worker have? Does it have a finger book?

00:21:34 - 00:21:55 | Speaker 2:

The kind that you didn't buy, actually, and he's signaling to me it's the best water bottle he's ever had. It's slick, huh? Andrew should have bought this one, yeah. Wow, he's signaling that with his welding rod. I know Summit 4. That's my version of Tim Robinson doing a goofy-footed stalefish is that I know some before. Oh, wow. Yeah, exactly.

00:21:56 - 00:22:10 | Speaker 1:

All right. How about one quick thing here at the top of the show, if you don't mind, Luke? Song of the Summer. You're adorable. Song of the Summer. Voting has begun. Go to tbtl.net. Scroll down. You'll find a link. The new phone book's here.

00:22:10 - 00:22:11 | Unknown:

The new phone book's here.

00:22:11 - 00:22:39 | Speaker 1:

You'll find a link to the Song of the Summer voting page. It's also, that seems to be a little bit buggy. I know that sounds weird, but if you go to our Twitter page on Slack. I don't mean to buggy you, but the links are flying around fast and furious on the internet as we speak. So get ready. You've listened to the songs all weekend. Now it's time to vote. And then next week, David from The Basement will be coming on the show to reveal which eight songs are moving on to the next round.

00:22:40 - 00:23:11 | Speaker 2:

I have been listening to those songs, by the way. Yeah, me too. great playlist it's good I don't want to I don't want to cite any specific songs because then it's you know we're we're sort of influencing the outcome but man there are some really good songs on there and I think of myself as someone who is well I often talk on the show about how I don't know about any quote-unquote cool music anymore which is true because I just don't I don't play in those spaces enough other than just ripping off my daughter's Spotify playlists but but that

00:23:11 - 00:23:27 | Speaker 1:

I was going to say, that is mostly what you listen to, though. So, I mean, you are listening to cool music. I guess you're just not discovering it however you used to discover it. But there's no shame in that. Not that we need to get hooked up on that. But I would say, yeah, if people say, what does Luke listen to? What does he play for music for your weekend? I think you're always playing new, interesting music.

00:23:27 - 00:23:48 | Speaker 2:

Well, but that's a journey for me. Because what happens is Thursday night or Friday morning, I start going around and looking at Pitchfork and realizing I hate all of their recommendations. And then eventually I go to Addie's Spotify And I just dig around until I find something that I hadn't heard before that I like Which doesn't take too long because she's got really impeccable Music taste

00:23:48 - 00:23:50 | Speaker 1:

You get a little imposter syndrome it sounds like

00:23:50 - 00:24:59 | Speaker 2:

Right but if you were to walk into my apartment On a Wednesday Afternoon at 4 And I am getting ready I might make this Spaghetti squash artichoke Dip thing tonight I'm trying to figure out a way Andrew to not have so many carbohydrates in my life but also continue my vegetarian ways and so i've been like looking up a lot of recipes for like less carb heavy veggie options and so anyway tonight i'm i'm i'm thinking tonight i was just thinking that i mean do we have to on some level give them credit for worming their way into our brains to that degree like we were east commercial yeah we kind of roasted those commercials when they came out but i mean if i start to tell you about what i'm going to eat tonight you start thinking of an uber eats commercial so i don't know you know gotta tip the cap but uh i'm gonna be i might try to make that tonight but if i'm gonna put a little music on you will catch me probably just listening to a Pandora station.

00:25:00 - 00:26:22 | Speaker 1:

That is built around either Phoenix, the band, or, you know, depending on my mood, could be Empire of the Sun. If I'm in my feelings, I might I might throw some Bon Iver on there, like just the actual for Emma, whatever that album is. But it's like, in other words, I'm not in my regular life day to day listening to cool new music that most people don't know about. I'm not I'm not rocking out with the Father John Misty and the what have you. So that's what I mean when I say I don't really know about cool music. It's like I'm not listening to edgy, experimental, new music in my day-to-day life. I find one song before Friday, and then I suggest it. You know what I mean? But my larger point was I do think as far as poppy music goes, I'm aware of it because of TikTok, because of just being alive in the world. And yet there were somehow about 14 really awesome songs for this summer that I didn't know about. That had escaped my radar. So that's why I'm very excited about this Song of the Summer competition. So, yeah, please do go check it out. Please vote early. Vote often. By the way, this is one of the few areas where the Republicans have not actually managed to make it harder for people to vote. So you have to absolutely take advantage of this. Although we did gerrymander the Lord song. So as to make it a safe seat.

00:26:22 - 00:26:24 | Speaker 2:

That is true. Yes. And yes.

00:26:25 - 00:26:26 | Speaker 1:

All right. Let's take a break.

00:26:26 - 00:26:36 | Speaker 2:

I had a joke that – then your joke – then I was thinking about your joke and I forgot my joke. But I would say a water bottle with a handle is really what I'm in the market for.

00:26:36 - 00:26:53 | Speaker 1:

Are you going to eventually pull the trigger and get a new water bottle, just one that has that little function for you that you're looking for? Or is the whole thing off the table now and you're back to just using your sort of standard guy that you bought years ago?

00:26:53 - 00:27:51 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm still using this Rubbermaid clunker. I but this thing doesn't even have a handle either. But so eventually I need a new water bottle. I'm not going to I think I'm going to buy one nicer than just a replacement rubber made. Right. Like I do want to do it slightly nicer. But it's like I hate. I think I really just don't like shopping. I mean, that's the difference. I think for you, like a big part of it is the sitting down and, you know, brought us back to water bottle talk in earnest again. But like, I don't know, man, for me, like I have a list of things that I need to buy that would make my life easier. And if I sat down, especially if I used, especially if I used Amazon, which I try not to, but I definitely do from time to time, I could sit down and within, like, literally within 15 minutes probably have five different products on its way to me now and that will be here by tomorrow that I've been putting off buying. And I don't know why it takes me so long to sit down behind the computer and buy stuff. But, like, the idea of, like, starting my journey again of finding a different water bottle exhausts me.

00:27:51 - 00:29:49 | Speaker 1:

that is where we are very different my friend because that's the journey that's what i love so much is just you know is is sitting down on the computer and just cross-referencing a million different like reviews and pieces of feedback about some silly thing that i probably don't need and definitely didn't know existed like as of 12 hours ago yeah instagram has been actually working on me a little bit i bought these shoes from some company called ponto which are all made out of recycled materials supposedly and i really like them actually they're like kind of like a dress shoe but but you can wear them with no socks and they're kind of good with a suit i guess that was like maybe the first time i bought something off of instagram but because i bought something instagram seems to really be going ham with you yeah and i'm tempted i'm very exactly um addy has been telling me we need to go to the break but addy's been because you know addy works for the seattle times and she works in the i'm sure there's a more specific title for what she does but she works in digital sales effectively or essentially and she was explaining to me all of the intricacies of how you know those ads work and how like the the ways that they get sold and the marketplace the dynamic marketplace for putting an ad somewhere and what you know what people get charged and then also just sort of the things that they're looking to get from people And it's not even always somebody clicking on the ad right then, but they can tell if you click on it later on and stuff. And like, just, I mean, that's not, excuse me, that's not a great example. But like she was, we were diving into the details a couple of weeks ago and I was, it's quite a world. And what she said to me was, look, dad, I could either be, I could either be the sheep or I could be the shepherd on this. I could either be the person getting hit with all these ads and getting tracked, or I could be the person who knows how it all works. and I all I could see was why were you kind of giving her a hard time a little bit or just

00:29:49 - 00:30:18 | Speaker 2:

like wow this gets into some or did she have a little bit of a um a little I don't know defense mechanism working is she struggling with it no not at all she was just kind of she was just talking But all I was seeing was dollar signs. I was seeing a very nice retirement for me in Palm Springs once she is the next Elon Musk or whatever. I was like, this is good. This is very good. This sounds like a very profitable career for my daughter who will one day be. Although the problem is we're both going to be elderly at the same time, which kind of kills my whole plan. Yeah, right.

00:30:19 - 00:30:21 | Speaker 1:

It's so funny that you plan to have a kid so young.

00:30:22 - 00:30:42 | Speaker 2:

Like when I'm 87, she'll be 70. Yeah, that's not a support network. That's a good point. All right. I'm currently, by the way, in the market for any actual young children who would like to take on my care and feeding in my dotage. So there's an application at tbtl.net. I'll see you in 40 years.

00:30:43 - 00:30:46 | Speaker 1:

Vote for Song of the Summer if your song wins. You can take care of Luke when he's old.

00:30:46 - 00:31:14 | Speaker 2:

Volunteer to change my diapers in 40 years, please. All right. We've got to take that break that we've been threatening to take now for 15 more minutes. And then we'll be back with more TBTL. hello and welcome to top story all right our uh top story let's start with this cdc gif where do we land on this andrew are you going gif or jif i think it is really

00:31:14 - 00:31:27 | Speaker 1:

it's really jif right but it's the original intent was jif but um well luke as you know i just uh language i don't judge people based on what words they use why is it that we all know

00:31:27 - 00:31:34 | Speaker 2:

at least the people like the pedants like us why do we all know that it's jif but we can't

00:31:34 - 00:32:28 | Speaker 1:

make ourselves say jif we say gif honestly i feel like most of us heard gif first and got used to gif and it seems like that it was never even questioned for a long time it was just the mainstream pronunciation then somebody said oh actually it's supposed to be jif and then it's like well okay that's the proper way but if you say that like nobody wants to stop or most people don't want to stop a conversation with the way they say a word right like for me it's like okay it was originally jiff it's morphed to gif that's how most people know it that's how i learned it if i had learned it early on if i worked in the field you know and i was always calling it a jiff and everybody started calling it a gif maybe i'd be irritated but from my perspective it's like we all called it a gif like let's not let's not do kind of what we're doing right now which is every time it comes up it's hard to move on with the conversation because it turns into this the cdc

00:32:28 - 00:32:48 | Speaker 2:

has released a gif trying to get folks to remember that if you are having stomach distress if you're having diarrhea you don't want to get into a public pool and they put together this little graphic which some people say is too graphic andrew yeah the bell didn't even want to work on

00:32:48 - 00:32:58 | Speaker 1:

that was like sir it's like a flintstones like some sort of it's a living i have a small i have

00:32:58 - 00:33:45 | Speaker 2:

a very small pterodactyl andrew that sits on my desk addy got it for me um she bought it off of instagram it's a can opener record player and garbage disposal that never wants to do any of those tasks it's an old tortoise that has a little bell knocker in it anyway go ahead mr slate rock is here i've got to get the house together because i didn't realize he was coming over for dinner we're bosses this is why the show takes too long because everything we say generates some other dumb thought in my head i'm thinking about it because of wandavision actually but also i plot all the time on the flintstones would be the boss is coming over was this a big thing in the 50s was everyone having like their bosses over for dinner because it was the plot of almost every sitcom

00:33:45 - 00:34:50 | Speaker 1:

was the boss is coming over and the roast is burned. Yeah, which is why, you know, it was a good send-up because I'm even thinking, like, it seems like Bewitched must have had that, right? I guess Ricky Ricardo didn't have a boss. Otherwise, it would have been an I Love Lucy. He was a nightlife man. But, yeah, no, it just seemed like there was, in the same way that, like, in a different era, every single sitcom had a I'm having a baby episode and we're all going to be in the hospital for this episode. You know what I mean? You mean, like, more in, like, in our era or in the 80s and 90s? I feel like in the 80s and 90s, that was a huge thing. Like, any going sitcom that lasted more than three years eventually, and maybe this is also just because people in real life end up having babies, and so you work it into the plot, but I just feel like that was such a tired trope, the, like, I'm having a baby and everybody's freaking out episode, but before that, it was, the boss is coming over. Have you ever had the boss over? No. I have, but, like, my boss is, like, this is public radio where my boss was kind of, like, my friend and he'd you know if we had dinner parties or whatever they would um they would be invited i'm thinking of actually several bosses none of my bosses have ever wanted to

00:34:50 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 2:

be my friend hmm no now even bosses can tolerate you i mean you must have been have you really never been like kind of chummy with any of no i i've i've been

00:35:00 - 00:35:44 | Speaker 1:

I told you this on the show I ran into our old boss at the gym Here in Portland Although this is a little bit of a Of a flex Of a negging if you will So I ran into our old boss Carl Gardner I gave him my number He has yet to text me I don't know if he's playing it cool He had said hey I'll have you over He and his wife were lovely I've been to their house Their old house on Mercer Island in Seattle In fact, I've even been to dinner with Carl Gardner at Mio Posto, which was that kind of pizza place down the street from my old house. So that's like the one boss that I have sort of socialized with a couple of times. And he got my number at the gym. And that was like a month ago, Andrew.

00:35:44 - 00:35:52 | Speaker 2:

And do you have his? He wouldn't give it to me. Just a one-way phone exchange. Yeah, that hurts. No, for real.

00:35:52 - 00:36:06 | Speaker 1:

Do you have his? I mean, I must have texted him. So I guess I could go back in my – I don't think I created a contact for him. Oh, by the way, he had a new phone number because his old phone belonged to, like, whoever it was we used to work for.

00:36:07 - 00:36:17 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you probably don't have his number. So in other words, that's what I was kind of getting at. Like, when you didn't exchange phone numbers, you gave him yours. And so you really are kind of – you do have to kind of wait for him.

00:36:17 - 00:37:12 | Speaker 1:

Right, yeah. Now I'm remembering it. We were standing there next to a very perplexed personal trainer because I was like, carl and he was like huh and i was like it's luke burbank and then i pulled my mask down and he was like oh yeah and then again i was hoping it was more the mask that caused him to not recognize me more than the 20 more pounds that i am than when we last knew each other but then i was like i was telling him my number and he was putting a contact into his phone so i don't have his number yeah i'm just waiting around for our ex-boss to call me up and invite me over to lake oswego where he and his wife live but okay that was not what we're here to talk about we're here to talk about is this plan by the cdc to reduce people getting into pools with diarrhea by putting out this this graphic that has a kid sliding down a water slide into a pool and then leaving a long brown

00:37:12 - 00:37:30 | Speaker 2:

streak but it's a really cartoony gif it's like a it's like a real two-dimensional kind of like you know just cutesy cutesy little gif it's not like graphic it's just you just see a little brown streak on the slide and there's a lot going on in the gif right right yeah i mean if you if

00:37:30 - 00:38:14 | Speaker 1:

you didn't like basically you would expect that the cdc would put this out minus the brown thing because it's just a nice little scene there's a dad in the pool and he's about to you know catch his daughter who's sliding on the water side there's a couple of other kids frolicking in the pool it's just a nice little cartoon scene and uh you'd think that they would just put this out saying you know hey make sure that you're not making people sick by getting into the pool when you're not feeling well nope they've gone with don't leave your mark at the pool this summer and there's something about it being a gif where it's sort of on a loop so the little girl keeps sliding down the water slide she keeps leaving behind a giant trail of diarrhea keeps going it's quite mesmerizing and very graphic I'm not going to lie

00:38:14 - 00:39:19 | Speaker 2:

yeah there's two kids as you said floating in the pool basin one kid coming down the slide and the dad four characters all together it's really hard for me because of the way the internet works and how it's poisoned my brain it's hard for me to not imagine how this gift should continue like that first the slide with the little brown stuff with the brown streak behind the little girl and then slowly around the adult man The water should turn more and more yellow. Then around the other two kids, it should become more and more brown until they're just, like, hanging out in a pool of sewage. I feel like somebody is probably working on that update to this GIF right now. My question for you, though, is, Luke, if I haven't already made you too sick, do you – I mean, this has got to be somewhat knowing, right? Like, there is a – Of course. This is like a – you know, it's kind of a younger generation, a little bit more hip generation understanding what gets – well, I'm sorry. I'm going to say it, but what's sticky online and by by having this little streak, we're all talking about the dangers and indirectly we're talking about the dangers of swimming if you have diarrhea.

00:39:20 - 00:40:10 | Speaker 1:

That's what I thought. I was like, good job, CDC. Yeah, this is totally working. We're talking about it. If they didn't put that brown streak on the pool, this would not be a conversation on TBTL. It would not have been retweeted 10,000 times and liked 12,000 times. Somebody on there is responding. And apparently this is now where the story is, is that, you know, Internet claps back at CDC diarrhea graphic. What? So, I mean, I mean, maybe it's not that extreme. But well, yeah, there was a story from CNN that I printed out that's about people giving this thing grief. Somebody named Scott Isbell replying to CDC. At least we know. know what the cdc has actually been spending their time on during this pandemic and i'm like really dude that's really let me go lebitard that's your take yeah they've been working on

00:40:10 - 00:40:25 | Speaker 2:

getting messaging out there yes the communications department at the cdc during the pandemic has been working on communicating about disease yes and like i'm sorry it's working i am now well i wasn't

00:40:25 - 00:42:24 | Speaker 1:

going to go in a public pool anyway probably i mean one that seemed sketchy one that had a lot of kids in it and i'm not saying that to be anti-child i'm just saying little kids they are not as aware about keeping their bodily functions in check and things like that and particularly if they have a diaper and the swim diaper they're wearing isn't uh you know fully doing its job like i now see when i was a kid there was nothing i loved more than a public pool or a pool at a hotel or motel um but these days all i see is parts per million and fecal problems we were this weekend talking to one of camaro kev's brothers about taking his kids to great wolf lodge oh yeah that water park that's in uh technically it's in grand mound washington although i think it is on a slice of land that belongs to the local tribe which is why they were able to build this monstrosity um but they're constantly getting sued because it's not owned by the tribe it's owned by some other company um but they like did some sort of a deal with the tribe so that they could build this thing on this piece of land and anyway that's not the interesting part of the story the interesting part of the story was i think it was clay was saying that they were there with their kids and the kids were swimming and all of a sudden all these alarms started going off and there was even a term for it it was like an it was like an fws there's like a fecal water situation and like like they literally had a you know code for it and this poor i'm assuming teenager lifeguard from great wolf lodge had to get out there with this like you know long basket on a stick and fish a a number two like bill murray style from caddyshack fish a number two out of the pool out of the wave pool which i'm sorry i'm no i'm no scientician but by the time you're fishing that out of the swimming pool the damage is done bro like that's already diffused

00:42:24 - 00:42:38 | Speaker 2:

and infused that pool with some i don't want to be around well yeah but they are you implying that they didn't shut it down after fishing this thing out no whoa everyone had to get out of the pool

00:42:38 - 00:43:03 | Speaker 1:

They fished it out And then everyone got back in the pool No Yeah You gotta take some hour You gotta flush it out Do you know how long it takes To empty and refill a wave pool At a place like Great Wolf Lodge That's a good point Like if they had to shut down Those kinds of places Every time some little kid You know Pinched a loaf They would just like Never ever be able to have anything open So I think it's just like Chlorine do your job

00:43:03 - 00:43:07 | Speaker 2:

Yeah I guess you're right That was a pretty naive reaction I had Now that I think about it

00:43:07 - 00:43:10 | Speaker 1:

If there's one thing you should be naive about Great Wolf Lodge is actually a pretty good one.

00:43:10 - 00:44:45 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm happy to be. No, I mean, it is true. Of course, water parks. I mean, water parks just deal with this all the time. They don't shut down the water park every time a kid has an accident because you literally could not stay open if that were the case. But, yeah, we were – I wonder if this came up, Luke, because when – so when we were at Boom City this weekend, Genevieve and me and some other friends were staying at the La Quinta Inn, which was kind of nearby. and there were some kids there you know some kids that were part of our our crew our our friends kids and they were swimming in um in the pool in the La Quinta Inn and Genevieve was so excited when she heard there was a pool she was like Genevieve is like a child when there's any opportunity to swim and so she was gonna go swimming with the kids too but it ended up not being a real opportune time and none of the adults were swimming but while we're down there we go to the La Quinta Inn pool it's a new building by the way this building was not like outwardly gross bad no it really was not bad at all except there were a couple of things around the edges like it I was very happy with our room was very cheap room but it was a new building everything was pretty clean I guess they do allow pets in there and one of our fellow travelers said that their room did smell like a animal had had an accident in the room and it was not cleaned up well and they couldn't switch rooms I literally said I'm like I was like well what are you gonna switch rooms they're like no I think it's all booked up I'm like do you think that Luke Burbank would stay in that room like go talk to the front desk they have a room for you somewhere um and it turns out there was not another room but they got like 20 bucks off their 20 bucks off their bill i think

00:44:45 - 00:44:59 | Speaker 1:

i just i like that i've become an example of i'm going to choose to take that as a as a compliment that like luke burbank doesn't settle for less as opposed to would the world's biggest nudge stand for this well i mean kind of the world's biggest

00:45:00 - 00:47:19 | Speaker 2:

I mean, I think that I have a higher tolerance for some, you know, for for maybe a lesser hotel room or inconveniences or what have you. But like, I don't know, a room that smells like dog or cat urine, like, yeah, we could all use a little bit more of stand up for yourself fitness in a situation like that. So I invoked you. But anyway, while we're in this little room, like this little pool room, it's an indoor pool. it's not very big um so it's like me and genevieve and two of our friend couple whatever four other adults and two kids swimming in this pool and it was one of those things where the more i was in there the longer i was in there the more i realized kind of how grody things were because it seemed fine it seemed absolutely fine but it's all steamy in there you know just by nature which doesn't usually bother me kind of a a chlorine steam smell could even remind me of i don't know vacation as a kid it's not bad but i'm just in there for a while and then somebody points out hey watch your step over here and kind of like right in the doorway area there's like a little slick of something that is light brown that conventional wisdom is that's poo and i couldn't figure out how there would be that that amount of poo in that can in that consistency right there on the floor but then people start saying well probably kind of came out of a diaper and the more they talk about that then they're talking about the pool and somebody mentioned oh yeah there's a bunch of hair around the edge of the pool over there and i started to i literally said and i didn't say why i wasn't like you guys are grossing me out but it was one of those things where i was just in there talking throwing you know beach balls at the kids in the pool until like this conversation about the potential poo on the ground the hair at the edge of the pool the steam in there i just said to the gang i'll be up in the room um you know call me when we're ready to move on and i literally went upstairs and watched c-span because it was the only thing that made me feel clean again and honestly i wasn't even making a big deal of it i think it was more looking it was like some washington post special uh it was like some washington post editorial page writer uh who was hosting a zoom chat it wasn't it was not great um but and i don't think i was like oh it's making me sick down here i gotta go cleanse my brain i it wasn't conscious it was later when i was thinking about it that i was like yeah i just needed to get out of there in that moment i i

00:47:19 - 00:47:48 | Speaker 1:

I mean, again, this is very sounds, I guess, somewhat classist because, you know, I have the number of hotel swimming pools that I have been in is in the hundreds. I used to take Addy. Sometimes we one time we went to Ocean Shores to like whatever the Holiday Inn or something just because they had an indoor pool and she swam in it the whole weekend. I probably got in there, too. There was so much chlorine that it actually changed the color of her bathing suit. Oh, my gosh. And her hair.

00:47:48 - 00:47:50 | Speaker 2:

I was going to say, how was the hair?

00:47:50 - 00:50:49 | Speaker 1:

I think it was, you know, is it like she got an unintentional dye job as a like, you know, seven year old or whatever. But like. So anyway, my point is, I'm not trying to act like I don't know, I'm so bougie, but I just think I've reached a point in my life. Now, if I were to have young children again, I'm not going to not let them go in the swimming pool because it's one of the greatest joys in life is going in the hotel swimming pool when you're a kid. but i honestly don't know if i'd want to get in there with them just because uh once you're i like it's like when you see that you know whatever dateline or something and they flash the black light in the hotel room that should that should be illegal to put on television because i can't go in any hotel room now without having somewhere in the back of my mind like if you were to shine a black light in here it would be so upsetting and then you have to just push that to the back of your mind so you can get through your night you know you get the sheets are hopefully have been washed and I think you and I both agree hopefully in caustic chemicals hopefully in the bleachiest of bleach but then the bedspread who knows what's going on with that the pillow like the pillowcase might be clean what's going on in the pillow like if I start to let my mind run with that stuff it actually is sort of problematic for me so I like public swimming pools where lots of little kids are in them have also moved into that sort of territory for me where I sort of can't not think about all of the i mean because as a little kid there's something somebody wrote on twitter uh responding to the cdc post somebody named victor oh my god lol you guys really had a hashtag graphic designer animate a little girl coming down the slide with hashtag diarrhea so by the way victor is hoping that he'll be able to get those likes and rts from people that are interested in both graphic design and diarrhea yeah what hashtag diarrhea i this advice is very strange i had the common sense at age four to not go in the water if i was feeling sick i mean how much did this hashtag cost so if someone is searching for the hashtag cost they'll also find victor's tweet it's like what is broken in people that they are taking their time to put these responses up on the internet it's seems I mean it almost feels like and I don't think this is fake I think people are just kind of awful and the internet is how we know it that's an expression Genevieve and I came up with like I don't know like forever ago like 15 years ago at one point one of us said people are awful and Facebook is how you know it um but like yeah it's almost like that's a bot it's so just like toned like why do you need to put that out in the world and again you're using the whole hashtag thing drives me crazy like I say you'll see you'll see yard signs with hashtags like you don't need to put a hashtag on a yard sign you know what i mean like that right the whole idea of i know i just sound like grumpy grumpy man yells at cloud which isn't the expression but like i don't know why i care about that but like the idea of like you know let's just say you're you're making a yard sign that says hashtag black lives matter i'm all for black lives matter but why do you need to put the

00:50:49 - 00:50:58 | Speaker 1:

hashtag on your yard sign what are we doing with that yeah i it's very odd the yeah the like the

00:50:58 - 00:51:27 | Speaker 2:

when you get into like the 10 or 15 hashtags going in the same message, I mentioned that somebody was telling me they didn't appreciate. Well, I don't know. They just were saying fireworks are not great on Twitter to me, which is a reasonable point of view. And like I said, it didn't like hurt my feelings or trigger me, but there was a lot of hashtags in there. And if I'm just going to put it this way, if you're tweeting at me and you have more than one hashtag in the response, I'm probably going to not take the response super seriously.

00:51:27 - 00:51:38 | Speaker 1:

Mm hmm. The only hashtag that Luke wants to see when you're criticizing him is hashtag peace and love. Thank you. Exactly. So anyway, good job, CDC.

00:51:38 - 00:54:29 | Speaker 2:

I think this is actually a great message for this summer. And I don't think this is in some way detracting from their efforts around covid, although it is. I can't believe I'm going to actually do this right now. It is interesting that one of the things that I have heard about throughout the pandemic has been that a lot of people at the local level have a lot of frustration with the cdc um i'm forgetting which exact show i was listening to if it was the new yorker radio hour it might have even been chris's podcast but uh the the there is some the cdc i think you know i'm i'm very um appreciative of the work that they've been doing and the people that work there but i think on the local level there's somebody i heard somebody saying that the cdc doesn't really control diseases they sort of come in afterwards and study them which i don't know enough about how all this works to um say anything with authority on it but it is kind of funny because i always thought the cdc is this just like absolute like white knight organization and it was news to me that there are some people and these are people who are public health experts they're not like anti-vax or anti-maskers they're like the people that are at the local level trying to do the work and uh some of them were a little less than enthused about what the CDC was able to provide for them. So at least the CDC is handling the poop in the swimming pools, which we appreciate. Let me just tell you this quick story before we get to emails and V-mails, Andrew, about a dog in Spokane, Washington. Oh, I want to mention real quickly, thanks to listener Michael in Spokane for sending us the CDC story. That's wrong, Andrew. That's wrong. It was listener David. I assumed it was Listener Michael because he's one of our unpaid producers and sends us so many great stories, but the CDC story actually came from Listener David, so apologies for that. But speaking of Spokane, Washington, this dog, Tilly, was riding along in the car with her family. They were driving along the Idaho State Highway 41. This was a couple weeks ago when, unfortunately, they crashed into another car, which somehow launched Lily through the rear window, which I don't even understand the physics on that. You'd think if they were driving and they crashed, if they rear-ended someone, maybe it was some kind of a side swipe. I don't know. It was a car crash that sent the dog crashing through the rear window. Lily was apparently not hurt But was very stunned And then just sprinted away As a bunch of strangers And her owners were trying to corral her back She is a two-year-old border collie Red Heeler mix So she goes running off Into the fields of Washington, Idaho And they don't know where she's went And they're super bummed Because I mean It sucks to be in a car crash But it sucks even more to have your scared dog run off into the wilderness.

00:54:29 - 00:54:38 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, someplace like if your dog or cat runs away from home, you hold some hope that they'll find their way back. But if you're out in the road somewhere, how do they know where to go? Right.

00:54:39 - 00:55:48 | Speaker 2:

So they got home. They were, I'm sure, pretty sad about it. And so they went on Facebook and they put a message out there saying, hey, we lost our dog. They put a picture of Lily on there. The post was shared by 3,000 people. that's when Tyler Travis and Zane Potter saw the post on facebook and said oh that might be the dog that we saw out on our family farm and they went out to where uh lily was lily was out there just hurting the sheep like and she's a healer border collie that's what lily is like bred to do so she was out there working she was probably as happy as she's been in her life no offense to her You know, the Oswalds, the people that have her living in like Spokane with them. But I mean, she must. I mean, that was a traumatic day for Lily. But imagine like you're in a car crash. You bust out the back window. You go running off all scared. And then you come over a hill and you see a bunch of sheep and something just deep in your wiring just says, yes, this is what I'm supposed to be doing.

00:55:49 - 00:56:52 | Speaker 1:

Yes. Those sheep are out of order. These sheep need to be in order. I understand that completely. I do wonder, yeah, I mean, that sounds like you can picture a happy dog running around herding sheep, but I do think that there must be, I always wonder how much animals kind of, well, this just gets into a bunch of questions we can't really answer and that people ask themselves all the time, but like, what is the emotion of an animal? I feel like if I'm gone from home for a week and I come back, whether it's me or me and Genevieve are both gone and we have a cat sitter, I feel like the cats miss us. I feel like there is a, and this could be totally me making it up, but you've certainly seen reunion videos of humans and dogs. obviously the internet is chock-a-block with them and like there's real emotion there but if there's real emotion when the dog is reunited with their human does that mean that the dog is also spending time when the human isn't there thinking I wish my human was there like how much does that like actually how much are those formed thoughts I mean we don't know this is just like

00:56:52 - 00:58:20 | Speaker 2:

the eternal question I guess like I was trying to talk to Rudy on FaceTime the other day uh-huh uh-huh carrie and i were chatting about some stuff and rudy was there and i was you know talking to her in the voice i guess you would say that i usually would talk to her in and stuff and i mean that's a little bit of a side issue because i'm not actually physically there my guess would be that when dogs do recognize like uh people it probably has also to do with smell and a lot of like little kind of subtle indicators that dogs pick up better than we do so those were not present But I don't know. I mean, she probably just thought it was CBS Sunday morning, which she's been on like multiple times. Yeah. Boy, that's really a dent in my career that Rudy's not living with me. That was my main go to for all social media posts that I needed to have take off and any CBS story that I wanted to try to actually create a little, you know, a little interest in get the dog in there. But, like, I don't know. Like, if I were to go back to the Burbank Springs Broadcast Center, I think Rudy would be excited to see me. But Rudy's excited to see everyone. It's impossible for me. I mean, the listeners are going to say, no, no, no, no. She knows you. You guys had lots of adventures. And maybe she does. I just, I wonder. I mean, now I do. Would you see those videos of people being reunited with, like, lions? That they, like, used to help out when they were cubs. And the lion's, like, tackling them. I'm like, boy, you better really trust this lion remembers you, bro.

00:58:21 - 00:58:21 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, right.

00:58:22 - 00:58:30 | Speaker 2:

Like, that is really, really rolling the dice. Because if that lion is like new phone, who dis? You're dinner.

00:58:31 - 00:58:56 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, no kidding. And also, I mean, for me, I mean, that stuff is always way too dangerous. Even if the lion does remember you, you just don't know what's going on in the brain of any animal, humans included, as far as when they're going to snap or get confused or instinct is just going to kick in because of a loud noise somewhere, real or imagined. Like, I would, well, needless to say, I would never get up close and personal with a lion. What I guess the big reveal is on today's TVTO.

00:58:56 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 2:

I wonder if I raised a lion from when it was a teeny tiny cub, like when it was harmless. Although, when I did that story about that has not been on TV, which is a bummer to me because I thought it was actually an interesting story about that. the place they sent a bunch of the tigers that were on the tiger king like a much much better place for them to go in colorado it's this very wonderful sanctuary where they can just have all the room they want they have they eat really well it's it's an awesome place but they also had a liger there and the liger was actually being raised because it was so little it was like a liger which are bred for their skills and magic as anyone who's seen napoleon dynamite knows this liger had been for sale in like a roadside zoo or some you know roadside like pet stand and someone had been like this is not okay so they got the liger out of there but it was still so little that it couldn't yet live with like grown-up tigers or lions or ligers so it was living with a bunch of dogs a bunch of irish wolfhounds

01:00:00 - 01:01:45 | Speaker 3:

which are massive these are like ponies these dogs and i think i've told the story on the show a few times but uh it was a quite an interesting little like social hierarchy because you had this tremendously overweight bulldog you had these bunch of these irish wolfhounds like four or five of them and then you had a shih tzu and the shih tzu was the alpha of the whole group including the liger the shih tzu was running the entire situation which was wild to me but my point is i was a little bit afraid of the liger andrew yeah well i think you should be that's that but i mean it was tiny it was a cub it was the size of it was it was the size of theo oh well i'm scared of theo well this is the thing the liger kept going around and wanting to nip everyone's heels it was just being playful but i it was i like i really wanted to play with it because i I think it's probably the only time that I'm going to get to be around a liger cub. But I was at some level afraid. I was like, if it bites my leg, is that going to hurt? Even though it's just a little thing, it's just trying to have fun. So I was a little on edge. It kept trying to bite our poor cameraman, which really sucked. Oh, yeah, I remember that. 40 pound camera on his shoulder. But anyway, my question is, if I were like a Melanie Griffith situation, she famously grew up, I think, with all these big cats. If you had a tiger or a lion from when it was just barely born so that it was totally no threat to you, and, I mean, would you be comfortable being around it when it was older? I tend to think I would probably. You also don't hear about, like, those kind of animals eating their owners. What you hear about is chimps ripping the faces off of their owners who have raised them from when they were little.

01:01:46 - 01:02:23 | Speaker 2:

Now I want to get rid of my chimp. You know, you asked me, like, would I be scared as an adult? That's also a huge violation of your lease. I think that I would just be such a fundamentally different person. If I was having the life experience of knowing these wild animals intimately in their youth, I just think I'd be a fundamentally different person. So maybe I would be more comfortable with them. But right now, that's unimaginable to me. And those photos, I forgot that was Melanie Griffith because I didn't realize that until more recently. I think somebody resurfaced a photo spread of her and her mom because her mom was famous too, right?

01:02:23 - 01:02:50 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, was her – I'm going to get this wrong, but was her mom Tippi Hedren from The Birds? I know that Tippi Hedren from The Birds, the Alfred Hitchcock movie, not the band, The Birds. Confirmed. I know Tippi – oh, good. Because Tippi Hedren runs to this day, or she was, I don't know if she's still alive, but she was running a large animal, a large cat rescue in like up in like Moorpark, California or something.

01:02:50 - 01:03:34 | Speaker 2:

And there's these photos. I mean, you can look them up. They're easily accessible online of a young Melanie Griffith, like as a as a kid and as a teen, just frolicking and snuggling and reading books up against a full grown lion. I just discovered these myself because I didn't know about this. like sometime in the last year or so and I remember it was probably a Saturday morning like scrolling through my phone and Genevieve saying like yeah yeah no this is a whole thing and I was just I was mesmerized and and retroactively terrified like these these I find these photos to be very unsettling there's one I'm looking at it now where she's jumping in the pool and the lion is kind of like playfully but reaching out and grabbing her leg like it's not okay

01:03:34 - 01:03:54 | Speaker 3:

And yet Melanie Griffith went on Is it Griffin or Griffith? Griffith Melanie Griffith went on to star in many films So the tigers did not kill her Or the lions did not kill her Which is an argument for them Maybe kind of recognizing That the person who raised them Is no threat to them I don't know

01:03:54 - 01:04:03 | Speaker 1:

Here I go once again with the email Every week I hope that it's from a female No man It's not from a female

01:04:03 - 01:04:17 | Speaker 2:

all right uh emails and v-mails my dude okay my good boy you you gotta say something quippy in the next um i don't know 10 minutes or so we don't have a show title yet so you know just try to

01:04:17 - 01:04:24 | Speaker 3:

really put on your what about a overly graphic graphic no what about jif but it's a peanut

01:04:24 - 01:05:39 | Speaker 2:

butter but then that's to stand in for number two then an emoji and then a unicorn head exploding Yeah, okay. I think we got a, hey, show title. I got an interesting email from listener Andrew in Athens, and that would be Athens, Alabama, I believe. Son of Bruce, if I'm remembering the first book of the Bible correctly. First of his name. Andrew, son of Bruce. Send us an email with the subject line, my young mind is scarred. And then wrote, hey, friendos, so I was going to the doctor listening to TBTL and you guys started talking about burps. Why? Luckily, the rest of the podcast had way too much swearing. I'm now an adult. Thank you. Power snout, Andrew from Athens. So I think, I don't know, like boys becoming men, men becoming wolves via our voices, I guess. That's what's happening. But anyway, I don't know if I'm I should apologize to Andrew and possibly Bruce and fam for scarring Andrew's young mind or if I should be saying you're welcome for, you know, bringing you up in maturity.

01:05:40 - 01:05:50 | Speaker 1:

I think I'll learn sometime. I mean, Lord knows yesterday's show was a real. A lot of a lot of boys became wolves with yesterday with the license plate.

01:05:50 - 01:05:59 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yes. Right. Of course. I wonder if that's what Andrew was referring to. When were we doing the burp talk? That was yesterday as well.

01:06:00 - 01:06:57 | Speaker 1:

It's also time that children learn about burps. That's right. But that's all I got for emails, Luke. I got one from listener Sarah that I'm excited about. Sarah says, I watched slash listened to the riff track last night. This would be the Lord of the Rings thing that we did with DFTB and with Genevieve. I watched the riff track last night. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm recovering from a tonsillectomy. No. Aw. I'm sorry, Sarah. God, that sounds awful. So it was a nice treat as I stay at home recovering. I wonder if, do they really give you ice cream when you get your tonsils out? I didn't have my tonsils. I think so. I was jealous of people who got their tonsils out because of the ice cream component. Also probably because of the attention. Like, I had this huge privilege as a kid of really not being sick ever and not needing braces or glasses. so I therefore was kind of intrigued by all of that stuff that was another big were you about to say the same thing

01:06:57 - 01:07:04 | Speaker 2:

another big trope in 80s sitcoms especially if children were involved there was always the tonsillectomy episode

01:07:04 - 01:07:28 | Speaker 1:

I wonder if they also have stopped taking tonsils out as much like they might have better things to treat whatever it was like I think the idea of having your tonsils out would be if you persistently had cold or some sort of adenodal or, like, otolaryngological situation. Whoa. Easy for you to say. Isn't that what they call it? Wasn't that called adenoids or something?

01:07:28 - 01:07:33 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, you just pull that out and just very smoothly just implement it. I love it.

01:07:34 - 01:07:45 | Speaker 1:

But, like, I wonder if – I don't hear about kids having their tonsils out as much anymore, but it just seemed like something that was always happening. That and appendixes were always being removed.

01:07:45 - 01:08:02 | Speaker 2:

Yes. I believe – I think that's what Genevieve had removed. Like when we're pretty early on in our relationship, I remember she was having some, you know, internal pain and that she had to get that removed. Yeah, that's kind of scary because if you don't take care of it, right? Like, isn't that the thing that can burst and send poison in your body and rupture?

01:08:02 - 01:10:34 | Speaker 1:

It can be a really bad situation. Well, anyway, sorry, Sarah, about the tonsillectomy. Hope you're getting lots of ice cream. Sarah says, I have been a TBTL diehard for many, many years now. Ten plus, I think. highlights for me singing karaoke with luke jen and sean at carols in chicago after a live event o m g sarah i have totally i had blocked that out there was this crazy place that we went in chicago called carols where first of all they had to buzz you in to the bar it was run by these old ladies and you would stand outside and I guess they would sort of look at you through the window and decide if you should come into the bar or not and they would literally, that seems like a fire code violation but I'm guessing you could get out without being buzzed out but you couldn't get in and this dude running the karaoke was amazing. He had a guitar that he had no strings on it that he would play if the song was rocking he would be like your backup guitar player. No. He had a fake saxophone that he would play and he had rigged up this incredibly elaborate and janky system of smoke okay so this bar had one of those like drop ceilings oh yeah but it was like one that was like straight out of a very depressing office sort of space so you know like it's that aluminum kind of an aluminum structure a spine if you will that then has these foam squares these styrofoam or not styrofoam but whatever they're made out of but it kind of corky kind of yes yeah and and if you push them up they they're just resting in there under their own weight you can pick them up and move them and whatever hide stuff up there hide a money belt up there and it's like just think about like the worst ceiling for a bar you could think of i'd put that one right up there just as far as like not stained not aesthetically pleasing not not welcoming but anyway that's what they had and he had run I'll see you later. this pvc piping that went up into that drop ceiling and then over to where the people were singing and then drop down and he had a smoke machine running into the pvc pipe and he had rigged up something on the end of the pipe that was some kind of a like a flap that he could control with his foot and when you really rocked out hard by his estimation he would press down this foot pedal and smoke would come down and cover you like but you had it was almost like a video game you had to rock hard enough that you achieved smoke release level unlocked i guarantee

01:10:34 - 01:10:40 | Speaker 2:

you i've never rocked hard enough in my life you know what andrew it's not over yet for you we're

01:10:40 - 01:11:31 | Speaker 1:

gonna get you a baby liger uh and we're gonna get you rocking hard enough to get a smoke release at carols anyway uh sarah continues uh luke complimented me on my rendition of semi-charmed kind of life wow sarah i i had a phase where i sang that song a lot and i wonder if it was because I was inspired by Sarah's performance. Sarah says, I'm in Louisiana now, but I can't wait for another live event. As many tens have been saying all year, what you have created with this podcast is beautiful and valuable. A cure for loneliness, as Jen used to say. It's been many years of listening, as I've said. And just like you guys, I've had my heartbreaks, my changes, and my contemplations. Thanks for being vulnerable with us and giving us a warm friend hug in our ears five days a week. Shout out to DFTB, incredible knowledge. Power Out listener, Sarah. I like that. That's really sweet. Thank you, Sarah. A friend hug in your ear.

01:11:32 - 01:12:10 | Speaker 2:

I don't know if I like that, but I mean, I like the sentiment behind it. I mean, you know, I just... You don't want me to give you a friend hug in your ear next time I see you? Let's you and I hold off on that for now, and let's just see where things go. How about friend hug in your ear as the show title? No, I'll come up with something. Did you know that Mike Nichols directed the movie Working Girl with Melanie Griffith? I didn't, but it does not surprise me. It kind of surprises me. Genevieve loves that movie. I need to watch it again from the beginning. I know that the ending always punches her in the gut. She loves it. She can't stay dry-eyed.

01:12:12 - 01:12:20 | Speaker 1:

Is that a movie where she is a woman who works in an office environment, and is that the working girl, or is she someone who is a quote-unquote working girl,

01:12:20 - 01:13:18 | Speaker 2:

i.e. she is a sex worker oh no she works in an office environment and it's a little bit um i'm gonna mess this up because i haven't seen it as much as genevieve has or probably a lot of our listeners but um she her she works in an office she's kind of an underling um in the office uh her boss is um oh gosh luke the woman from alien i'm blanking on her name sigourney weaver sigourney weaver is her boss and then her boss i believe goes on a i want to say a ski trip and breaks her leg or something and can't come back to the office somebody mistakes melanie griffith for being her boss because like somebody comes in the office and maybe melanie griffith is spinning around in the office chair or something i don't know exactly all you all you do so then she lives she leaves this fake she leads this fake life for a while while her boss is out of town recuperating and ends up having an affair with harrison ford who believes i believe that she's higher up in the company than she really is.

01:13:18 - 01:13:24 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, because Harrison Ford wouldn't want to shtup Melanie Griffith if she wasn't a regional vice president.

01:13:25 - 01:13:35 | Speaker 2:

Well, and again, I haven't seen it, but I don't think that he, maybe he would. I don't think his character is off-putting at all, but either way, she is presenting herself in this way and living this sort of fake life.

01:13:35 - 01:13:54 | Speaker 1:

Sure, no, I get you, but I'm putting myself in the shoes of Harrison Ford and that era, And I think it would be funny if if it was like Melanie Griffith was responding to my advances. And then she said, and by the way, I work at the front desk and I was like, sorry, that's a real boner killer.

01:13:55 - 01:15:24 | Speaker 2:

I will say this, and this is not one of those things I know from being a pubescent boy who knew these things once upon a time. This I literally know from Genevieve because she submitted this. We used to do a thing on the Spotless podcast called Rated C for Clean where we would look at movie and TV scenes where people are cleaning up some sort of a mess. And then we would give it a letter grade depending on how well they were doing. And Genevieve submitted one, which I think we did end up talking about on the show, which is Melanie Griffith at one point. I think we're near the end of the movie and Sigourney Weaver, her boss, is coming back home. And I think she's been living in her boss's apartment. I don't know if she's supposed to be doing that or not. And she has to clean the apartment. And at one point, because she doesn't want to mess up her office clothes for some reason, she, I believe, is vacuuming topless, wearing like a skirt and heels, I believe. I don't even think. Here, we're bringing up bras two days in a row. A whole new era for the show. I think she is fully topless. live show title i appreciate you working on it while i'm babbling over here trying to help but it really raises the question why do you need to keep the it was a whole conversation like why do you need to keep the heels on like even if you're vacuuming quickly and you don't want to mess up your clothes so you pop off your shirt quickly why would why would you leave the heels on other than mike nichols probably wanted that that sexy scene in the movie well it apparently worked

01:15:24 - 01:15:28 | Speaker 1:

because it was quite the popular movie as a kid i was very aware that this film existed even though

01:15:28 - 01:15:49 | Speaker 2:

i didn't see it i think it was a big hit yeah i wouldn't mind going back and re-watching it or at least that scene just kidding um so how about for music we go out with let the river run by carly simon i don't know this song but it was the popular song written for this movie and it's off the original motion picture soundtrack are you cool i'm sure that'll be yeah i was i was gonna

01:15:49 - 01:16:14 | Speaker 1:

suggest the song hook by blues traveler because i made a joke earlier of you said that you wanted a hook on your water bottle and I said well that brings you back and I think it's just like a John Popper harmonica riff it just zipped right past you but you play this song because I'm sure our listeners may be listeners of a certain generation know this song and love it and then I'm going to go listen to Hook by Blues Traveler but me and Randy are going to go listen to some Blues Traveler and then I'm going to go watch

01:16:14 - 01:16:16 | Speaker 2:

Hook with Robin Williams

01:16:16 - 01:16:38 | Speaker 1:

alright and Dustin Hoffman I believe yes I believe so yes isn't he like the bad guy in that? yeah you're right He plays Captain Hook, yeah. Thank you for listening, everyone. We're going to be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio for you, so please do join us for that. Until then, have a great Wednesday, Mariners. Please don't start Justice Sheffield two days in a row. Ever. May they be back through his arm.

01:16:39 - 01:16:41 | Speaker 2:

Maybe he's worn the uniform for the last time.

01:16:42 - 01:16:52 | Speaker 1:

Sorry, Justice. But we'll see you all tomorrow. Have a great Wednesday, and please remember, no mountain too tall. There's some Joan Cusack in this. I forgot. Good luck to all. Her hair is amazing. I'm looking at it.

01:16:52 - 01:16:55 | Speaker 2:

Joan, but still my heart. Good luck to all.

01:17:24 - 01:17:48 | Speaker 3:

We, the greatest fall, stand on a star, and blaze a trail of desire, through the darkly dawn. Power out.

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