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#3463 A Squeeze Machine For My Brain
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3463 A Squeeze Machine For My Brain

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July 9, 2021 | 01:28:40 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke realizes he has sleep apnea, so he and Andrew practice snoring exercises. Plus, an oral history of food expiration dates and an oral history of Ringo Starr being kind of annoying.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:24 | Speaker 3:

How many hot dogs do you eat in a day, Tim? I'd rather not answer that. Thank you, though. Did you eat hot dogs today? Not exactly. Why are you bringing this up? Well, you have mustard on your shirt, and frankly, your verps reek of hot dogs. I had a hot dog bowl earlier today. Yes, I did. And what is a hot dog bowl? It's like a burrito bowl.

00:00:25 - 00:00:28 | Speaker 5:

But it's chopped up hot dogs in a big old bread bowl.

00:00:29 - 00:00:31 | Speaker 3:

So like a much larger, less healthy hot dog?

00:00:32 - 00:00:36 | Speaker 5:

Can I go? I'm starving. T-B-T-L

00:00:36 - 00:00:44 | Speaker 1:

Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is?

00:00:44 - 00:00:51 | Speaker 6:

It's Friday. Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend.

00:00:51 - 00:01:03 | Speaker 5:

I have no idea why I have Fred Schneider's solo album. why did i buy this funky little purchase is that your friend snyder yeah why did i buy

00:01:03 - 00:01:08 | Speaker 6:

this funky little purchase we have our own friends we're the number one show in hospitals

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and on sinking riverboat casinos just to make sure i've gotten all the information correct

00:01:12 - 00:01:28 | Speaker 5:

i'm going to need to confirm a few more things i need some help please your name is eric target Is this correct? Okay, I'll go ahead and make that change. Great, I've made the change. Your wife's new legal name is Targis, Targis.

00:01:28 - 00:01:38 | Speaker 7:

Let's get to the jokes. All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

00:01:38 - 00:01:42 | Speaker 2:

It's like someone punching your brain, but in a weirdly satisfying way.

00:01:42 - 00:01:59 | Speaker 7:

My name is Luke Burbank, I am your host. Why are you wasting your time with this podcast stuff? Because I have nothing else going on. Coming to you from the Nest Broadcast Center high in the sky above Portland, Oregon, where we are looking at a beautiful Friday.

00:01:59 - 00:02:02 | Speaker 5:

Oh, ma, pa, it's just beautiful.

00:02:02 - 00:02:24 | Speaker 7:

People are already collecting on various roof decks that I can see from here for some Friday brunching. And I'll tell you what, I'm jealous. would like to be on those roof decks. But I'm also very happy to be here with you all conducting episode 3,463 in a collector series.

00:02:24 - 00:02:25 | Speaker 2:

Let the fun begin.

00:02:25 - 00:03:07 | Speaker 7:

Because we have a very fun show in store for you today. We have a story about how we got to the point where we have these expiration dates on our food that is causing most of us to then throw our food away because we're worried it's going to give us, you know, botulism or something. Even though those expiration dates are kind of weird and pointless. Welcome to Food News Today. So we will dig into that. Also, Ringo Starr turned 81 and he celebrated his birthday by continuing to be super annoying.

00:03:07 - 00:03:10 | Speaker 5:

Peace and love. Peace and love.

00:03:10 - 00:04:18 | Speaker 7:

Although I've got to give it to the guy. He does look really good for 81. Maybe being a self-aggrandizing, maybe being the least talented, most self-aggrandizing member of a legendary rock group is the Fountain of Youth. Because he does look pretty good, but he is hella annoying. Also, I think I have sleep apnea. It's a condition. And it's one of the reasons I had to leave the New Zealand army. And I have been trying to figure out what I can do about it short of getting a CPAP. And it's led me down some very weird Internet rabbit holes. Yesterday, I found myself doing tongue exercises for 20 minutes based on what some British otolaryngologist was talking me through on YouTube. Anyway, we'll talk about that as well. Plus music for your weekend because it's a Fri-yay. We'll also talk to this guy, Longstriening Cobra, of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He is ready to party with the best of them.

00:04:18 - 00:04:20 | Speaker 6:

Ziggle zag it. Let's get back at it.

00:04:20 - 00:04:25 | Speaker 7:

He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

00:04:25 - 00:04:49 | Speaker 6:

That was a good one, that intro tape. That's, um, I forgot. I went through a phase, I think, where I was trying to home in on a catchphrase for myself, right? It had a TVTail catchphrase, and that's what that was born of. Ziggle, zag it, let's get back at it. I stand by it. It's good. It's good. Ziggle, zag it, let's get back at it. I don't think I'm going to top that, although I'm tempted to try, but I'll only fumble around.

00:04:49 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 7:

I feel like, if I remember right, maybe it's just the same drop. There were a few ziggle, zag it's in my little audio system. I was wondering if it was a thing where you.

00:05:00 - 00:05:01 | Speaker 1:

We're trying to perfect it.

00:05:01 - 00:05:03 | Speaker 2:

Ziggle Zag it. Let's get back at it.

00:05:04 - 00:05:11 | Speaker 1:

That's the other drop I have that's called Andrew Ziggle Zag it. But, no, they're the same thing. So maybe you just said it once, but, I mean, a legend was born.

00:05:11 - 00:05:29 | Speaker 2:

Maybe one of them is Chris Hayes playing it over the phone from his office. We've got to get him back on the show. I have a – hey, good news, Luke. As we speak, I just got the latest email from the Star Tribune listing a whole bunch of articles that I can't read. because this thing I signed up

00:05:29 - 00:05:30 | Speaker 1:

even if you sign up for the newsletter

00:05:30 - 00:06:07 | Speaker 2:

I signed up for the newsletter so I could read one article two weeks ago since then I've gotten the newsletter every day and it's filled with interesting stories like why a slice of I-94 West of the Twin Cities is a candy land for researchers but when I click on it it says you don't subscribe to this newspaper and I have no issue subscribing to a newspaper but it just seems like a weird punishment for me to sign up for a newsletter so I can read one article and then they just send me this email full of fascinating information that I have no access to. Well, I guess that's marketing. All right, let's just buy this right now. How much is a Star Trek?

00:06:07 - 00:06:11 | Speaker 1:

Why don't we take this approach? You read me the stories, and I'll give my best guess as to what the story is about.

00:06:12 - 00:06:18 | Speaker 2:

Okay, why do you think a slice of I-94 west of the Twin Cities is a candy land for researchers?

00:06:18 - 00:07:00 | Speaker 1:

I bet you that that section of Minnesota involves a population that is diverse and in a certain age group or a wide-ranging group of ages that gives researchers access to a bunch of different kinds of folks so that they can sort of do – it's like one-stop shopping to get their data. Whereas if you were doing it in, I don't know, Pella, Iowa, you would get a very white, very Dutch kind of population, which would mean that your data would only apply to that group of people. I bet you that section of the freeway or that section of Minnesota gives researchers a wide range of people.

00:07:01 - 00:07:44 | Speaker 2:

That's interesting because I assumed it was biological research of some sort. I figured there was some, like, marsh or wetland, and it was that type of research. You're thinking of sociological research. We'll never know. Well, unless you haven't. Well, I thought you were signing up for it. Am I going to pay for this right now? Let me see. Is it? Well, I guess I can write it off. Right. It's for water bottles. Somebody told me to somebody to somebody told me to buy something for spotless and I can write it off. It's like, I don't think that's how spotless works. Hey, IRS, I have a hobby that pays me no money but does take up my weekends. Can I write stuff off for that? And then the IRS guy It is a guy And he's wearing a tie And a white shirt And he's got big Hornroom glasses He's played by the guy Who is God

00:07:44 - 00:07:51 | Speaker 1:

In the good place Oh I forget that guy's name But he's the guy Playing the IRS In this mental skit

00:07:51 - 00:07:59 | Speaker 2:

Now Is that the same guy That we just heard In the intro today The doctor talking to Tim Robinson About his hot dog Is it the guy You know it's funny

00:07:59 - 00:08:02 | Speaker 1:

I don't even remember That sketch Oh that's from The Detroiters

00:08:02 - 00:08:03 | Speaker 2:

That's why

00:08:03 - 00:08:09 | Speaker 1:

Okay yeah Maybe his name That guy's name is Jackson, something Jackson.

00:08:09 - 00:08:16 | Speaker 2:

See, I think I'm confusing God in The Good Place and the devil in The Good Place because there's a lot of gods and devils.

00:08:16 - 00:08:35 | Speaker 1:

I think that guy is the devil. I think he turns out. Yes. Holy forking shirt balls. I think he turns out to be the devil. And I believe he is the chief's husband on Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Same fella. That would probably make sense. He's a kind of a slim, I don't know, white guy in his late 50s probably.

00:08:35 - 00:08:37 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, we're talking about the same guy

00:08:37 - 00:08:50 | Speaker 1:

That guy does a lot of stuff with Paul F. Tompkins And he's in I think he's in Super Ego And a number of those other kind of Improv kind of podcasts And live events Mark Evan Jackson

00:08:50 - 00:08:52 | Speaker 2:

There you go He's beloved

00:08:52 - 00:08:53 | Speaker 1:

Also known as Tito

00:08:53 - 00:09:03 | Speaker 2:

It's amazing that we've landed here Because yes, that's that voice that you heard At the very beginning of the show This guy here How many hot dogs do you eat in a day, Tim? Do you hear it now?

00:09:03 - 00:09:09 | Speaker 1:

Yes, I do hear it We're no closer to you signing up for the Star Tribune. No, did you notice? Why is it that you and I—

00:09:09 - 00:09:14 | Speaker 2:

As soon as money was involved, I really became a Stu Gatz, and I'm, like, trying to change the subject. What's going on with your sleep apnea?

00:09:15 - 00:09:50 | Speaker 1:

Why is it that you and I—our entire livelihood is based on people seeing this content that we create as having value and then giving us money, or more likely or more accurately, giving American public media money for this to exist? But it would kill you And also kill me To pay $5 a month To the Star Tribune Even though It'd probably generate A ton of content For this show But I'm with you Like I have Let's see I'd say it's probably Five things that I pay for That maybe ten

00:09:50 - 00:11:09 | Speaker 2:

Well you're But you're counting Reading things that you read Right I thought you meant Of the things we read Like we pay A lot of money For all kinds of Subscription services Well sure for streaming and video and so i and then we have and and again i'm i'm not against it and i really am i'm not just saying this because this is our model as well but i do think that genevieve and i talk about like yeah but what are we going to prioritize and honestly like a newspaper like the star tribune is exactly the type of newspaper that i should definitely support but am i going to support every major market newspaper from my perch in seattle now there's a reason why the star tribune would be closer to our hearts because the company we work for is there and i find those stories interesting and i feel a kinship with with our twin cities uh compatriots more than other cities but you know they do they stack up you know we have some magazines we have some newspapers seattle times new york times washington post um i don't have to list them all but i think it's one of those things it's just like well okay i'll sign up for this and then of course i do see The first four weeks for digital premium access is almost nothing. It's 99 cents for the first four weeks. So it would be $4 for a month and then $4 for $4 a week for the rest of the year. Is it worth $4 a week? I just signed up for it. Did you really? Yeah, I did.

00:11:10 - 00:12:37 | Speaker 1:

So here we go. Why a slice of I-94 west of the Twin Cities is a Candyland for Researchers by Ashley Miller. Let's see here. It's a divided section of I-94 West of the Twin Cities Looks at first glance Like any old construction detour That peppers state highways But this is no ordinary fork in the road I'm just doing this on the fly An anonymous reader sought more information About the purpose of this test road From Curious, Minnesota The Star Tribune's community reporting project By the way This subscription is already paying for itself Because Curious Minnesota, that sounds like an interesting thing. Let's see. Researchers at Minroad study how different pavement materials and designs hold up in real-world traffic conditions amid Minnesota's harsh winter climate. They conducted as many as 50 experiments at the time on the westbound lanes, aided by data from underground sensors. So engineers as far away as Iceland rely on the findings since variables like traffic, temperature, moisture, and the passage of time are difficult to recreate in lab environments. So I was definitely wrong. It has nothing to do with the demographics. It has to do literally a slice of I-94 West. They mean the road itself is subjected to conditions that are useful for people who study roads.

00:12:38 - 00:13:10 | Speaker 2:

I have a question for you that is back to the subscription conversation. But here's one of the things that I'm also kind of fascinated and impressed by because I'm a very old man. But one of the reasons I was also dragging my feet on this is I don't have my wallet with me. And when I sign up for things online, I still go get my wallet and I pull out a credit card, which is maybe one of those barriers. I used your card. Was that? No, for real. How did you just do? Do you have some? Do you have like because I have like Dashlane, but Dashlane is not set up to make payments for me. Do you have something just built into your computer?

00:13:11 - 00:13:22 | Speaker 1:

My computers just will auto-fill in all of my information on various cards. It gives me a list of all of my cards, and then I just have to remember the little CV code in the back.

00:13:22 - 00:13:23 | Speaker 2:

Oh, wow.

00:13:23 - 00:13:29 | Speaker 1:

Which I'm sure is a recipe for having my information stolen at some point, but for now, it makes my life easier. One last question.

00:13:29 - 00:13:45 | Speaker 2:

What's your CV code? No, just joking. Okay, we paid for this thing. I'm going to look into doing that as well. We've paid for this thing. Any other gold in them thar hills? I like the way they just got $4 from us And now we're going to give away all of their articles For free via audio Sorry

00:13:45 - 00:14:10 | Speaker 1:

I wonder if like when we talk about We try to be careful to Credit you know people who write Articles and Point people back to the original source Excuse me for a lot of our You know top stories I wonder if people Ever actually go back and then read the articles I wonder if it's a benefit To the publication or if actually we're just Making it unnecessary for people to go and read The source material

00:14:10 - 00:14:18 | Speaker 2:

I think it's a net positive Generally speaking Sometimes we'll even say Oh wow this is an especially well written piece Or what have you

00:14:18 - 00:15:36 | Speaker 1:

From the Star Tribune today St. Paul Police Chief Disputes DFL Rep John Thompson's racial profiling claim Now We learned what DFL was Minnetonka Minnetonka therapist turns clean food lifestyle into growing business venture. She's purified herself, Andrew, in the waters of Lake Minnetonka. Parkboard resurrects $43 million plan for Hiawatha golf course. Interstate 35 West in South Minneapolis to close for one last weekend. And then let's see here. Make your plans accordingly. Reward. offered in road rage death apartment buildings apartment building fire displaces more than 40 on Minneapolis's north side man wanted in fatal Minnesota shooting was arrested in Sioux Falls there's also a photo of a guy looks like he could be the stew bot's cousin this is the guy who died unfortunately in a road rage incident I don't want Stu to look at this picture and think I think this is what Stu looks like I'm saying he could be a distant relative if that makes sense and that's pretty much everything from the star tribune for this friday okay great fantastic well

00:15:36 - 00:15:48 | Speaker 2:

we did good work how's your nose yeah we did uh my nose it always knows your your your nasal passages you said you're struggling oh sleep apnea you know what this is going to take a minute so

00:15:48 - 00:16:26 | Speaker 1:

let's take a break and then let's come back and let's let's in the words of jay piven let's get into it when we come back from this quick break hello and welcome to top story so i have noticed andrew that i'm waking up a lot feeling out of breath or i'm waking myself up because i'm making these weird snorts and sounds like i'm sleeping by myself in my bed and then i wake myself up based on because of the noise that i'm making i've done that before i know that feeling and i

00:16:26 - 00:16:42 | Speaker 2:

can't tell if it's the noise or the feeling of it but especially if i find myself sleeping on my back which is not how i start to fall asleep but sometimes i'll end up on my back and you also need like you wake up and that's all you hear and feel right right and i also have noticed that

00:16:42 - 00:17:45 | Speaker 1:

increasingly i like that when i make that noise i also notice that i am breathless and i think it's because i am developing sleep apnea which uh turns out is the result of me being heavier than i used to be and also probably consuming alcohol and also being old those are the three main factors in sleep apnea it turns out and so i'm trying to figure out what to do i am i mean i could just lose some weight and stop drinking but good who has the time for that uh what i'm trying to do is find out a way to make this situation go away without actually addressing the underlying problems and also without getting a CPAP machine because that just seems like if I ever want to find love again, that's going to be a real deal breaker. Yeah, don't put it in your profile. Make my profile pic. Yeah. Me wearing a CPAP device. That's probably someone's fetish, so maybe.

00:17:45 - 00:18:18 | Speaker 2:

And I got to say, I know, I mean, we have a good friend. I have a Bane fetish. I'm just into guys wearing CPAPs. You merely adopted the snore. Just terrible, just terrible. But, no, I mean, and I don't want to make anybody feel bad if they use one. Like, one of our best friends just, like, a couple of years ago, you know, just got one, and, like, and he deals with it. He's happily married. I mean, people deal with it. But I'm like you. I'm very reluctant to hook myself up to something to fall asleep. It seems it's something that I have a lot of trouble wrapping my head around.

00:18:18 - 00:19:10 | Speaker 1:

I see so many people in the airport and I'm with you, by the way, like I'm not casting any aspersions on anyone who's using a CPAP because honestly, I should probably be using one right now. But you see I see people like checking, like not checking them, but running them through the TSA. Like it's the main thing. I feel like I see more CPAP devices than laptops now when we're all taking our stuff out of our bags and running them through the scanner at the TSA checkpoint. So I know it's a thing and a lot of people are using them. I think for me it feels like I wouldn't actually sleep Maybe I'd get more restful sleep But I don't think you can It seems like you can't really roll over And you're just kind of stuck in the position that you're stuck in While that thing is operating I've also been with that friend you're talking about When we were traveling And they had to go get some kind of like purified water Possibly from Lake Minnetonka

00:19:10 - 00:19:12 | Speaker 2:

I was going to ask, yeah

00:19:12 - 00:20:43 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's the only place you can get it No, but you have to have some kind of distilled water because that thing is, you know, it's forcing air and the air is humidified. It's forcing it, you know, through your system and that you have to make sure that the water that it's using to humidify and make it all work isn't going to have any kind of like, I don't know, whatever you'd call it, like bacteria in it or something else. So I just remember us being on this whole like journey to try to figure out if a certain like mini mart near where we were had the distilled water or whatever it needed to go. It just seems like a lot to deal with. And so I'm trying to figure out how to not do that. But again, really what it comes down to is lose some weight, burbs, and also maybe don't pound four drinks every night. Like, I probably could actually take care of this the healthy way, but instead I've been looking into all kinds of things like tongue exercises and also these weird doctor-prescribed, like, nose plugs that create some kind of, like, CPAP-like pressure. Like, when you breathe – I still don't exactly understand how they work, and I watched endless numbers of videos on them yesterday. but it's something where like when you breathe out it's sort of like charges these things up so that then they force air back into your nasal passage so it's it's like a what like a positive airflow or something but a doctor has to prescribe them which like doctor prescribed nose plugs yeah

00:20:43 - 00:21:26 | Speaker 2:

that is that is odd you know i was going to say at first that when you said like you your first attempt at solving this was going with like tongue exercises which as much as i don't want to we should probably delve more into that but um you know with a lot of things like this you love an excuse we've talked about this so i'm not trying to cast aspersions tell me if i'm wrong but you love to kind of i'm doing the exercise right now by the way there's a new there's a there's a new problem there's a new pain point in my life what what is what does the internet uh have to offer as far as things i can buy uh to you know make this a fun shopping adventure but this is one where you kind of aside from the nose plugs don't want to do the shopping adventure of the CPAP machine. You want to see if there's a more homeopathic way.

00:21:26 - 00:22:24 | Speaker 1:

There's just not very much out there other than, again, losing weight, drinking less, and being less old. There's not a real magic bullet. Although I would definitely have bought these nose plugs if they weren't doctor-prescribed. If I didn't have to go see a doctor who said, you can get these nose plugs. Then I watched the instructional video and the guy looked so ridiculous. Wearing them? It's not like putting a couple balls of cotton up there. I mean, these things are kind of humongous. Like, again, I don't know what's more off-putting for my potential amorous partners, the CPAP or some kind of giant – it's like something Mr. Bean would be wearing, like, in a sketch. It's kind of ridiculous looking. So I did start doing these tongue exercises because apparently if you – part of what causes snoring and sleep apnea and things like that is, you know, the sort of back of your throat and where your tonsils and, you know, your – what's that called? The uvula?

00:22:25 - 00:22:26 | Speaker 2:

That sounds about right.

00:22:26 - 00:22:35 | Speaker 1:

Is that what that little thing that dangles down is? I hope that's – is that uvula, right? That's not part of the female anatomy. That's probably something else. The uvula I think is that little kind of punching bag.

00:22:35 - 00:22:38 | Speaker 2:

That's not the tonsil itself? I thought the tonsil was the punching bag.

00:22:39 - 00:22:41 | Speaker 1:

I think – no, no, no. I think that's the uvula.

00:22:41 - 00:22:53 | Speaker 2:

I think the tonsils, you don't actually see your tonsils. Oh, I think you're right. Uvula. A fleshy – here we go. A fleshy extension at the back of the soft palate which hangs over the throat. Uvula.

00:22:53 - 00:23:51 | Speaker 1:

So apparently one's soft palate getting kind of flabby in old age is what leads to some of this snoring and the apnea stuff. And so you can, according to this one British doctor that I was watching on YouTube, you can try to strengthen that stuff by doing these tongue exercises where you're like – so you stick your tongue out as far as you can go with it. You do that like five times. And then you also – you poke your tongue to the left and you push on your cheek from the inside. You do that five times. You do the other cheek. You suck your tongue to the top of your mouth And you open your mouth And then you also Push your tongue back Down in your throat as far as you can go Almost like And you By the way it's impossible this doctor points out It's impossible to not raise your eyebrows when you do this I feel like I'm in the calm app right now One day they're going to let me do one of those sleep stories

00:23:51 - 00:23:53 | Speaker 2:

And this is what the sleep story is going to be

00:23:53 - 00:24:39 | Speaker 1:

Press your tongue to the top of your palate but supposedly that'll kind of like strengthens up you know what i ended up actually doing though i bought this thing on amazon there you go it was like a hundred bucks and it holds your tongue it's like this very weird mouth guard that has like a bubble on the end of it and it it like you basically press this little kind of bubble down you put your tongue in there you press this bubble down and you release the bubble and it kind of creates suction and it holds the tip of your tongue it's like you're blowing a bubble but it's your tongue again like this is going to be a turn on for anyone I love that I was like no CPAP but hey can I blow a bubble with my tongue all night would that be a good look and this certainly I mean this

00:24:39 - 00:24:47 | Speaker 2:

certainly guarantees that nobody listening right now will end up being your future I mean that's a good kind of fire people have been

00:24:47 - 00:25:25 | Speaker 1:

shooting their shot and I just want to kind of like head some stuff off at the pass cool things down a little bit yeah exactly I just want to really manage the listeners' expectations about old burbs. This is— This is why I got sold, though, on this silly tongue thing is they have, like, a little video. So, Andrew, try to, if you will, try to make a snoring sound. Okay, and I'll do the same thing. Oh, boy, that was rough. That's what I think it sounds like when I'm trying to sleep. Now stick your tongue out all the way. This is the sexiest thing we've ever done. And try to make a snoring sound.

00:25:26 - 00:25:31 | Speaker 2:

Can't stop my snoring. Tongue all the way out. I'm doing like the...

00:25:31 - 00:25:32 | Speaker 1:

Well, you're talking, so your tongue cannot be out.

00:25:32 - 00:25:39 | Speaker 2:

No, but when I made that sound, my tongue was out. Yeah, no, nothing can stop this snore.

00:25:40 - 00:25:42 | Speaker 1:

That's crazy because when I do it...

00:25:42 - 00:25:45 | Speaker 2:

I had a full Einstein tongue out situation going on there.

00:25:46 - 00:25:54 | Speaker 1:

Okay, so this is me sticking my tongue out and trying to make a snore sound. I can't do it. I physiologically cannot do it.

00:25:54 - 00:25:55 | Speaker 2:

Wow, well, I'm a good snorer.

00:25:55 - 00:26:02 | Speaker 1:

How did you do that? So your tongue – our snoring must be coming – do you snore, by the way? I don't – I've never noticed you snore. I do, yes. No, really?

00:26:02 - 00:26:03 | Speaker 2:

No, you have no –

00:26:03 - 00:26:04 | Speaker 1:

Well, we've also never slept in the same room.

00:26:05 - 00:26:34 | Speaker 2:

No, we have. Remember when we were in New Hampshire, it was a bit of a problem for you. I mean, you were very, very kind about it, and you did not try to make me feel bad. But we shared a room when Cairo flew us out to New Hampshire because, I mean, let's face it. It's a little bit cheap for a company to do that, but it was also kind of nice for them to say, okay, you want to fly three employees out to cover the New Hampshire primary for a Seattle commercial radio station? All right, but you guys got to share a room. All right, so we did that. And I'm pretty sure that was a bit of a – I mean, I think you – I can't remember exactly how you –

00:26:34 - 00:26:37 | Speaker 1:

Meanwhile, Dave Ross got his own room, him and his underwear that he could wash in the sink.

00:26:37 - 00:27:32 | Speaker 2:

I was going to say, yeah. We could have stayed with him. One item he brought. Did you want to? I would have preferred to stay with you and have a usable sink, not one with his dainty delicates in there. But, yeah, no, I think I snorted. And I snored really heavily then, and I felt bad about it because I can't stop it. And I think you had to take some sort of measures. I don't know what they were. You tried to maybe kill me in my sleep. You had a dream about someone lowering a pillow over your face. That was just a dream. Well, I thought it was a giant marshmallow. That was great at first. But, yeah, I'm really self-conscious about sleeping anywhere where anybody except for Genevieve would hear me at this point. Because I don't think I snore all the time. But when I do Picture the most interesting man in the world Right now I don't always snore but when I do Whoa what do you always say What do we do to the doors Bally ho the doors Katie bar the doors

00:27:32 - 00:27:47 | Speaker 1:

I just can't believe that you can make that Snoring sound with your tongue out I'm good man I cannot That must indicate that our snoring Is coming from different parts of our Like you know

00:27:47 - 00:28:15 | Speaker 2:

soft palate or whatever when i do it again when you make a party trick i just did it well no it's it's gross i will do it again if need be but um look before we burn out on that um but where when you go to make a snoring sound like you're awake now and you want to imitate a snoring sound all of that for me comes from my nose whatever i'm rattling this is such a gross show but i'm right i'm making that noise from my nose not the back of my throat well but i should get you these nose

00:28:15 - 00:29:24 | Speaker 1:

plugs andrew you should see a doctor get these nose i need them yeah um but well snoring is not really a nose thing it's what's happening you know in your again where like your airway your otolaryngological kind of area which is like the back the top of your throat behind where like when you sniff air in it goes you know what i mean like that's i mean sort of the back of my nose sort of yeah yeah but like because what you're see what you're doing i think is you're making a nose sound which may be that i mean i could do that if i if i stick my tongue out i know that you're not enjoying this andrew but i am greatly so we're gonna keep going with it if i stick my tongue out and i could like kind of make a nose snoring sound but what that really for me does when i stick my tongue out is it changes the whole kind of like interior or the shape of what's going on in the back of my throat and it makes it impossible for me to really snore so when i saw that video it was very compelling and i went ahead and i ordered this weird ass tongue bubble mouth guard thing from something called um good morning or something like that you know it's funny i um

00:29:24 - 00:29:44 | Speaker 2:

got a bunch of emails today from people who are concerned because they can't listen to tbtl because for some reason it's not popping up on apple podcasts on their platform i don't know why if you're hearing this right now and you're listening some some way that you usually don't because of this issue. I'm sorry. We are working on it to the degree that we can. But it's not us, though. It's Apple, right? It seems to be an Apple problem, yeah.

00:29:44 - 00:29:47 | Speaker 1:

They did an update to their podcasting app, and it's kind of screwing everybody over.

00:29:47 - 00:30:06 | Speaker 2:

It's not screwing everybody because other people are saying, hey, I'm getting the daily every day, but other people are saying I'm not getting the marketplace either. So I don't know what's going on. But I will say this. I bet you we will start getting emails tomorrow that says thank you. Thank you so much for not making your podcast available on the Apple platform. Yesterday, I heard it was a real snore show.

00:30:06 - 00:30:48 | Speaker 1:

People who can't hear this show will be like, I don't know why. I don't know who needs to hear this. But thank you, Apple, for making this hard to get because I have a sense that this was a really, really upsetting episode to listen to. Anyway, this mouth guard thing that I purchased, it's going to take like weeks to get here. I don't know if because of the pandemic Everybody is like Everyone's partners noticed that their snoring sucks And so There's a run on these things But I will keep everyone posted on how it's going With this The whole appeal of it for me Is based on this little test Of me sticking my tongue out And not being able to make a snore sound

00:30:48 - 00:31:14 | Speaker 2:

Well good luck As gross as We had to really break the seal I don't think it's gross I think it's – I mean we have people who if I make too much of a clicking sound when I talk, it triggers their misophonia. So I assume that this probably wasn't for everybody, but I'm glad we had the conversation. It was an important conversation to have. And in all seriousness, I would be interested in knowing how this plays out in your life.

00:31:14 - 00:31:29 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, like I said, I'm weirdly excited to try this thing, even though it's only about 5% less. Whatever the things I'm trying to avoid with the CPAP are, this is only about 5% less of that.

00:31:29 - 00:31:36 | Speaker 2:

But there's no tubes and stuff involved. It's not such a, you know what I mean? Something you slip into your face. It's not mechanical.

00:31:36 - 00:31:45 | Speaker 1:

I don't plug it in. I'm not wearing anything over my face in a sort of, like I said, Bane-like fashion. Yeah, we'll see if it works.

00:31:45 - 00:31:54 | Speaker 2:

I would say the one thing that is the only thing that is even somewhat attractive to me about a CPAP machine is the idea of cleaning it. I'll bet you it's fun to clean.

00:31:54 - 00:32:43 | Speaker 1:

Do you know that CPAP cleaning devices are a whole industry? Or I will see ads all the time for – yeah, I think it's basically CPAP cleaning devices, which really tells you kind of where we're at as a society. That it's not even like We've now probably Mostly saturated the CPAP Market A lot of the people who need one have one Right so now like where do we make the money It's like I don't think this is true But I've brought it up on the show before There was a rumor that when they first started Selling Frisbees The Frisbee was free but what you paid for Was the invisible string That the Frisbee supposedly flew on This is like that It's like alright we've sold all the CPAPs we can What else can we sell? How about the thing that cleans the CPAP?

00:32:43 - 00:32:59 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. But I could see that I could CPAP that being something that I could really get into. You know, I like cleaning. I like I like cleaning things. I like dipping things in alcohol. I like using Q-tips. I like I like I like the idea of alcohol, which is part of why I got to get this mouth guard. You and me both.

00:32:59 - 00:33:07 | Speaker 1:

But not to get too personal, but like does Genevieve care that you snore? Does she just kind of like is she capable of just zoning it out?

00:33:07 - 00:33:20 | Speaker 2:

Genevieve now uses a white noise machine every night And I think that might have started on some evenings When she was trying to block out my snoring But I'm pretty sure that she uses it Whether I'm even in the room or not anymore

00:33:20 - 00:34:06 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, the tendency with a white noise machine habit is Once you get into it, you want to push it as far as you can go I'm that way I now have, Andrew, sometimes I have this fan This Dyson fan in my room Which I bought because on one of my many Googling of things I was trying to find the quietest fan that I could for the Burbank Springs Broadcast Center because it was very warm in that room. Yeah. And I wanted to have a fan on but have one that wasn't loud, and the Dyson was supposed to be that. It's not. It's as loud as any fan. What? In fact, it's so – I mean, it's very, like, effective for moving air, and it's a cool thing. But it's definitely not quiet. Yeah, but it is specifically advertised in that way. Well, I don't know. That's what the internet was telling me.

00:34:06 - 00:35:14 | Speaker 2:

It was like I Googled, you know, quietest fan or something. I see. So maybe it's not marketed that way, but people have identified as being a quiet fan. I'll say one thing. Sorry, this is off topic. But for years, I had a clunky old mouse, and you could hear me clicking in the background of this podcast and others. And now I think we've already done this, but don't hear it, do you? Like I finally just got a new – I'm sorry. Now try clicking your mouse with your tongue out. But, yeah, and it's amazing. Like, I can't tell you, Luke. It's just one of those things where I mentioned this the other day that I'm actually the opposite of you and I'm bad at buying things. And, like, there are so many things that I know would make my life better, but it just seems like an ordeal. And, again, maybe it's because I'm still an old man and I pull out my wallet and I type the numbers. And I don't know what it is about me, but, like, there are so many things that I could buy that would make my life a better – my life better, but I don't buy them because it seems like a pain. And Luke, for years. Years, years and years and years, I've thought, I need a quieter mouse, and I never bought one until Genevieve bought a mouse. I looked at it. I tried it. It was quiet, and I said, can you send me this? I'm just going to order again. Like, that's my level of commitment. Anyway, you were talking about this fan.

00:35:14 - 00:35:16 | Speaker 1:

And you got a mouse pad. And I got a mouse pad.

00:35:16 - 00:35:21 | Speaker 2:

Now, that was my own, and that has gone a long way. All right, so what were you saying about this fan?

00:35:21 - 00:35:28 | Speaker 1:

I was saying I sometimes now will run the Dyson. I always run the Dyson fan in my room. It does have a remote control, which is kind of dope.

00:35:28 - 00:35:28 | Speaker 2:

Oh, sweet, yeah.

00:35:28 - 00:36:09 | Speaker 1:

I run that every night, and sometimes I will also either put on the Calm app or I will put on even just an app that is a fan sound on my phone. Sometimes it will double up on the white noise. Sometimes when I – I think I've talked about this on the show before. When I'm on an airplane and I'm trying to just maybe sleep or, I don't know, just relax in some way, I will listen sometimes to a white noise app on my AirPods. and then I will just be walking around the airport. I will be renting a car. I'll be driving to the hotel. All of this will be happening with me playing the sound of a fan or white noise in my ears, which I think is some kind of self-soothing thing.

00:36:09 - 00:36:12 | Speaker 2:

Have you sort of forgotten or you know you're consciously doing this?

00:36:12 - 00:37:33 | Speaker 1:

I know that I'm doing it, and it, like, calms me in some way. Nice. That's good. Like there are people who – certain people – people on certain spectrums, I guess, talk about like temple grandin the uh the professor and writer uh she built this thing called a squeeze machine um she's on the autism spectrum and she had noticed when she was young that she liked to wedge herself into the couch because have a feeling that kind of sense of being squeezed calmed her down so then she built she built various squeeze machines for herself as she got older and i think she might even like now like i don't know if she sells them or if she just like the person who helps design them but like white noise for me is like a squeeze machine for my brain like it soothes me in this very unexpected way that I will just sometimes be walking around for hours of my day playing white noise in my airpods does it ever make you somewhat drowsy no it well if I if I need to fall asleep you know me I put on the white noise and I think about beating up donald trump um although lately i've been thinking about dominating basketball games again oh cool that's a good sign positive i think it's maybe i'm in a better emotional place but it doesn't like the sound of the white noise does not like immediately make me feel sleepy

00:37:33 - 00:37:49 | Speaker 2:

although if i am trying to fall asleep it helps do you hear what's outside my door right now can you um introduce this next story while i open the door and let theo in here i thought he was i thought he was fine asleep upstairs on the bed but he has awoken he wants to come into the office it's time

00:37:49 - 00:37:55 | Speaker 1:

for work. Have you considered getting him like a white noise app and some little headphones? I wonder if that would calm him.

00:37:55 - 00:38:01 | Speaker 2:

Yes, I wonder. I often will put little earbuds in his ears but he just shakes them out. I'll be back in literally 10

00:38:01 - 00:38:37 | Speaker 1:

seconds. Alright, okay. So the first of the top stories is this article from Vox. It was written by Alyssa Wilkinson. The lie of expired food and the disastrous truth of America's food waste problem and I think it was yesterday on the show We got a story recommended By listener David but I Accidentally attributed it to listener Michael in Spokane because listener Michael in Spokane Sends in so many good Story ideas well Andrew this one is Actually from listener Michael in Spokane So thanks for the heads up

00:38:37 - 00:38:41 | Speaker 2:

Do you think he heard that and he thought like oh I've been Falling down on the job and so he upped his

00:38:41 - 00:39:18 | Speaker 1:

And that was the point I mean that was the reason That I did it and I'm glad that he kind of Figured it out what I was trying to send him telepathically which was Michael send us more stories this Vox article is really interesting the average American family throws out somewhere between $1,300 and $2,200 worth of food every year food that could be eaten what the part of this article that really jumped out at me was the history of food expiration labels like where it came from did you know anything about this at all, Andrew, before this article?

00:39:19 - 00:39:42 | Speaker 2:

I feel like we've talked about this before in various ways, and I know that we've, because you and I are kind of polar opposites on this, like Genevieve will, like, you know, she takes those as just suggestions, and maybe that's really how they're supposed to be. I know we talked a little bit about the difference between food being expired versus a suggested or best buy date versus expiration date.

00:39:43 - 00:41:12 | Speaker 1:

Date labels first started appearing in the decades following World War II as American consumers increasingly moved away from shopping at small grocery stores and farms and towards supermarkets. I would also highly recommend listening to the Anthropocene Reviewed podcast episode. about Piggly Wiggly because the guy who started Piggly Wiggly was kind of credited as being the first person to really create the grocery store as we know it before that my alley oh man I'm telling you I mean no good comes from me recommending other podcasts that are better than our podcast are they an apple the great question I'll ask John Green he's very smart He probably knows how to get the show onto Apple. That show is really amazing. And, I mean, it's just this kind of, like, historical deep dive on a bunch of stuff that I would have never sought out the information. But now I kind of am so happy that I know it. So before Piggly Wiggly, the standard thing for a grocery store really was a grocer. And you would go to the grocer and you would give them – it was typically a dude. You would give him your list of stuff. I need three pounds of tomatoes I need you know ham I need whatever and then he would like go get all the stuff for you from behind the counter wrap it up in like paper and give it to you which by the way sounds so genteel and fun

00:41:12 - 00:41:13 | Speaker 2:

like oh ma

00:41:13 - 00:42:19 | Speaker 1:

pa it's beautiful I mean really like to live that lifestyle where you just were to you go down to the store you know he's tying it up in twine you know there's twine involved like that just sounds so awesome but it was you know at some point not very effective and this guy who invented the piggly wiggly uh figured out that no we can actually just put all the food out and let the people get the food themselves and then we make them pay on the way out that was like an invention in whatever the 19 whenever he did that so uh before that people were just going to the grocer the grocer was getting them stuff uh and this is around the time of the invention of the grocery store when these labels started happening uh at first manufacturers printed a date code on cans and packages for the benefit of the grocer so they'd have a guideline for when to rotate their stock okay the label was not designed for consumers but since shoppers wanted to buy the freshest food on the shelf savvy folks started publishing booklets that gave a guide to deciphering the codes interesting like uh yeah

00:42:19 - 00:42:28 | Speaker 2:

Did they call those things, what are they, in the war, the shadow walkers? That's not true. There was some name for the people who were code breakers in World War II. Oh, wind talkers? Wind talkers. Yeah, that's what I said, shadow breakers.

00:42:29 - 00:42:45 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, sure. Weren't there Navajo wind talkers? I think so. Was the U.S. military used Native American people to use their native language because it was very hard to break or decipher or something?

00:42:46 - 00:42:48 | Speaker 2:

I don't know the ins and outs, but I do believe there was a connection there, yeah.

00:42:49 - 00:43:58 | Speaker 1:

Anyway, the article says, eventually, producers, seeing that shoppers actually wanted to know what those secret dates were, started including more clearly readable dates on the packages with month, day, and year. They saw it as a marketing boon. It was a way to attract consumers and signify that your food was fresh and flavorful. Consumers loved it, and the so-called open date labels became common, but there was little consistency about them. so this article goes on to talk about the fact that it's not a federal law like the stuff that you're seeing and you're right Andrew there's like two different categories there's like best if used by and that's really from the manufacturer wanting your potato chip for instance to be the crispiest so that you like that potato chip brand and you go buy it again but then there's also the expiration date which for things other than like I mean a very very Short list of Like very perishable foods Most of the expiration Dates are also just random Not federally enforced and kind Of not indicating really Anything yeah I mean I didn't

00:43:58 - 00:44:06 | Speaker 2:

That's the thing I didn't think that there was any I just figured it was like the industry Regulating itself

00:44:06 - 00:44:55 | Speaker 1:

Is the word I was looking right because like obviously if you Sell food that Is you know goes bad or Expires and makes people sick that's gonna be bad for your business so there is some amount of motivation for the companies to to try to stay on top of it also of course i mean i'll tell you who's really making out like a bandit is the salad industry because every two weeks i buy a box of salad or a container of of salad and then i don't open it and then it turns into a brown liquid and then i throw it out and i buy another one i guess that's not that's not really them that's just what happens when lettuce goes bad but what i was going to say is like certainly for the companies where you're if you're throwing out food that's edible and then buying the same food from those people like it's not a bad deal for them it sort of i guess keeps you know the supply or at least it keeps the demand up for

00:44:55 - 00:45:33 | Speaker 2:

for the product that they're selling yeah like milk is a good example like if i see that any kind of milk product. And again, I don't dabble in a lot of milk products these days anyway. But, you know, Genevieve always has milk in the refrigerator. And I will put milk on cereal. Actually, for a while there, I was doing a pretty good job of keeping almond milk in the refrigerator because the only time I drink milk is on cereal. And I think almond milk is fine on cereal. And there's just something weird about milk to me. But and this plays into it. You know, it has the, you know, best by date. I can't remember if milk, or at least the stuff we buy, is expiration or best buy. I don't think it's best buy. Milk is very, like, expired.

00:45:34 - 00:45:43 | Speaker 1:

That's one of the ones, but the funny thing is, and I'm sorry to interrupt you, but milk also, they mention in this article that if it smells okay, it's probably fine, regardless of what

00:45:43 - 00:46:16 | Speaker 2:

the expiration date says. But, like, I'm not, but I don't do that. Like, I don't want to smell milk with the idea that it could be bad. The moment I'm doing that, it's already bad at my brain, you know what I mean? Probably because I have a bad brain. But, yeah, I just don't like messing around with it. It gets in my head. Sometimes I pull the, like we, what, half gallons of milk in the cardboard carton, which I think is the best way to get it. I don't think you're supposed to. I think it's better if there's no light going in there. But you ever pull the milk out of the fridge? I don't think you have milk in the fridge, Luke. But you ever pull it out and it feels like it's kind of ballooning from the inside a little bit?

00:46:16 - 00:46:16 | Speaker 1:

That's a bad sign.

00:46:16 - 00:46:18 | Speaker 2:

I always think that's a bad sign. Yeah, exactly.

00:46:18 - 00:47:13 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, for any food, if the packaging is now, like, kind of convex, there's probably an issue. I've told this story a million times but you know my mom would go to the dairy department at Albertsons which no longer exists I mean the chain exists but the specific Albertsons that was across the street from Green Lake now I think it's like condos my mom used to ride her Schwinn bicycle over to that Albertsons and then she would figure out, she would go look at the milk that was expiring the next day and she knew that the dairy manager was going to have to throw it all out and she would like make him an offer and then uh get it for pennies on the dollar but then she would have all this milk more than even our family could consume so then she would freeze it all and then you know she would went through various things trying to thaw it out and figure out the best system she landed eventually on putting the frozen milk in this kiddie pool we had in the backyard

00:47:13 - 00:47:20 | Speaker 2:

which had gone very brackish too much man this is and and that's how she would thaw the milk out

00:47:20 - 00:47:45 | Speaker 1:

But, I mean, that whole part of it is kind of weird and gross. But the idea, though, that that milk was probably not dangerous to us, she was kind of actually on the right path with that, according to this article. Like, milk and other – like, if it smells okay, it's probably okay is the upshot of this article. Also, I didn't know this. You can check for the freshness of eggs by trying to float them in a glass of water. Oh, I've heard of this before.

00:47:45 - 00:48:12 | Speaker 2:

But also, I don't I've never had an experience with an egg going bad, a bad egg. You know, I mean, have you like I don't it seems like eggs keep for and again, all the caveats of how weird I am about food and expiration dates. And this is, you know, I was saying milk's kind of weird. Eating an animal's egg is also pretty weird. Oh, my God. But I love eggs. But like I've never cracked one open and been like, well, I've had that too long. And we can keep eggs in the refrigerator for a long damn time.

00:48:13 - 00:48:23 | Speaker 1:

I don't know if I've ever had a bad – yeah, I don't know if I've ever had a bad egg. If it sinks, that means the egg is good, by the way, which is kind of weird to me.

00:48:23 - 00:48:28 | Speaker 2:

That makes sense because when you hard boil eggs, they sink to the bottom of the pot, right?

00:48:29 - 00:49:17 | Speaker 1:

Right. So if you are wondering about an egg, put it in a glass of water. If it sinks, it's still edible. I have a very weird relationship with eggs, which is I love them, but I'm also super grossed out by them now. even though you know the eggs that we eat were never going to be a chicken because they're not fertilized i think it was was didn't a listener email us in email in about the the covering on an egg like when you get like farm and when you get eggs that aren't like in the grocery store sometimes they'll have like a weird film over them which is part of the like egg laying process and you have to sort of wash that off if you're getting like fresh eggs you know everybody wants fresh eggs that's supposed to be the like the best you get it right from the farmer or the guy with the chickens or whatever but those eggs have some weird slime on them yeah i had fresh eggs not

00:49:17 - 00:49:37 | Speaker 2:

all that long ago our buddy william who may be listening to this right now uh has a few chickens here in our neighborhood and he gave us a dozen eggs i did wash them off because you know there might there is just they can be a little bit dirtier they could have poop on them or whatever So I always rinse them off in the sink, but they didn't have they didn't have any kind of slime on them.

00:49:38 - 00:49:58 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like I I love eggs so much as a thing to eat, but I'm also very weirded out by them because I think about them being in the chicken's body. I also eat things that have egg in them. I also don't drink any milk, but I eat tons of cheese and sour cream and other dairy products. So it's like it's very inconsistent with me.

00:49:58 - 00:50:19 | Speaker 2:

I have an important question for you. I tried to engage Genevieve on this the other day. She really didn't seem to want to engage on it. I actually think it's a very interesting question. I was thinking about the scene from Cool Hand Luke. My boy says he can eat 50 eggs. He can eat 50 eggs, right? The whole 50 egg. And I think, spoiler alert, he does not make it, right? George Kennedy. Does he win that bet, Cool Hand Luke?

00:50:20 - 00:50:50 | Speaker 1:

I feel like he doesn't. You might be right. In my mind, he wins the competition, but you're right. Maybe he does. Maybe he doesn't get through it. I'm not sure. Have you gotten to – I'm sorry, really quickly. I know you want to engage me on Cool Hand Luke content. Have you gotten to – I think you should leave the sketch where Tim Robinson is bringing celebrity impersonators to a party and one of them is a George Kennedy impersonator, the guy who just said that line?

00:50:50 - 00:51:35 | Speaker 2:

No, I haven't seen that yet. I'm going slowly through it. But I – what I was going to say is let's talk about an egg-eating competition here because I started thinking about this, and I want to know, do you think you can eat 50 eggs? That's obviously the question. But more importantly, I think, what form would eggs be prepared in that would be easiest to eat the most amount? That's what I think, scramble. Yeah. Like way more – that's the problem. Like Cool Hand Luke, could he eat 50 eggs? Maybe, but probably not in hard-boiled. I think that hard-boiled eggs are actually probably the hardest format of eggs to eat a great quantity of, right? Because you just get dryness and chalkiness.

00:51:36 - 00:52:10 | Speaker 1:

Yes, the yolk gets very chalky. Yeah. That seems to be what hangs people up when they're in competitive eating is almost sometimes more the texture of the food than the volume. And scrambled eggs are just – yeah, it's weird because there's a certain kind of alchemy there. You take something that could be hard to eat as a hard-boiled egg, and you make it what people eat sometimes when they're like they've had jaw surgery or they're not feeling well or whatever. Like scrambled eggs are legendarily easy to eat. They require very little from the person who's doing the eating. I feel like I could probably eat 50 scrambled eggs.

00:52:11 - 00:53:28 | Speaker 2:

I don't think – I always say – I think for most of my adult life when these types of conversations come up, I exaggerate how much I could actually eat. because I get so hungry and I can get pretty gluttonous at times. I think as a kid I grew up pretty gluttonous. Like I probably won salami and rich cracker eating contests that I didn't even know I was in after school before dinner. But I don't – if they were – first of all, I would say that scrambled is the first thing that I thought of. I think that's probably the easiest. I think I could also do – Fried has got to be second place. Fried, yes. And then, you know, your own like for me, usually a fried egg, I'm over medium or over hard and over hard. As long as it's not too chalky, that could really be the sweet spot, too, because they could you know, you could consume them pretty easily, slide them down pretty easily. But 50, 50 is a lot, man. 50 is a lot. So if I'm just having a breakfast, I'm and I'm making it for myself, I'm probably making four eggs, which I think that's more. Is that what you would do? Do you eat – you said that you still like eggs, but you're probably eating eggs more as an ingredient. I mean, when's the last time you actually ate eggs as eggs? Long time.

00:53:28 - 00:53:58 | Speaker 1:

Pre-pandemic, I think. Yeah. Because I also at some point stopped eating breakfast. Yeah, yeah, right. Which really starts to move eggs off of the list of things that you're going to have a lot. I've had maybe an egg on a salad. I do love a good like a poached egg on a frisee where you like crack in or you cut into it and the yolk kind of like becomes part of the dressing more or less. That is – that's beautiful. That's like Amelie cracking the creme brulee. Like that is a – that's a delicious thing. But yeah, I don't remember the last time I had eggs.

00:53:58 - 00:54:18 | Speaker 2:

Because I wonder if it would gross you out too at this point for you to eat 50 eggs. Like at what point during this eating contest does it get in your head? I was going to say before, so, like, I can eat four eggs, which is probably more than most listeners would, like, sit down to eat, I would guess. Probably two – two is probably average for a normal human being to eat breakfast, right? Two is plenty –

00:54:18 - 00:54:53 | Speaker 1:

Well, again, I think it depends on the preparation. I think having four eggs as a scramble makes perfect sense. Having four eggs sunny side up or easy over is – you know, it's a lot. Like, you'd be paying extra at Denny's. Yeah, right. You know, like, there's no – like, it doesn't come with four eggs. It comes with two eggs, and if you wanted more, you'd pay more. But I do think it has to do with the preparation. Like if I was making scrambled eggs, like if Addie were here and I was making us breakfast or whatever, I would probably put 10 eggs in the scramble. That would just seem like, I don't know, the amount that you make. Between the two of you.

00:54:53 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 2:

I wonder if you'd finish that. Yeah. I, you know, I love a four-egg scramble with...

00:55:00 - 00:55:06 | Speaker 1:

kielbasa cut up into it maybe even some peppers yeah i'm hungry i do think that you overestimate

00:55:06 - 00:55:31 | Speaker 2:

how much you eat though and i think that has to do with childhood trauma like because for a while i thought wow andrew must eat a lot because you're always talking about i had too much food and then i started traveling with you and actually watching what you ate and you always just eat the normal amount of food that a person gets when they go to like a restaurant or something You go home and have a secret That's what Andy times is

00:55:31 - 00:57:37 | Speaker 1:

That is definitely true I am a bit of a secret eater It is summer time which means it has been barbecue time We've several times now had people over I grill down in the little alleyway Down at the bottom of our steps People chill out Up on the roof area And then when it's all said and done I come up with all the grilled goodness And then people dish up Well, I, first of all, rarely eat in that moment and I'm not trying to make other people feel bad, but I've been standing over a grill and it's just like hot and I've been probably stressed out about like, is the meat cooked correctly? There's a lot of stress in preparing food for other people, especially, you know, I have some friends who are like very, very particular about how their meat is done. And so I'm always like really stressing out about that. I've had parties before where people are like, I don't know, I like it. I like a medium rare to rare-ish hamburger. I'm fine with that. I've had people, like, taking their burgers and throwing them back on the grill with one bite out of them, and I hate that so much when people do that. And so I'm always trying to avoid somebody doing that to me. Is this why I'm not invited back to the barbecue? That was not you. I don't think you've ever done that. I can think of two people who've done that, two cool, two young people. One time. One time. But anyway, and so that's not to bash on my friends. Everybody's got their things. Vives and I like our beef a little bit pinker. But then when people when your guests are taking are deconstructing their burger and throwing it back on the grill, that's something that I avoid at all costs now. So my point is, I am I can get in my head when I'm grilling for other people. So by the time I'm done grilling and preparing all this and running up and down the stairs and grabbing this and doing that, like I'm not hungry. You know, I'm just kind of like tired and hot. But it's fine. I enjoy doing it. Where was I going with all of this? Oh, yeah. So then what I'll do is and then maybe once I calm down, this happened exactly like this this weekend. I do have a hot dog. I ate maybe, I don't know, half hour after everybody, maybe an hour. But my favorite part of those nights is when I start puttering and it's like, oh, half a hot dog here, half a hot dog there while I'm cleaning up the kitchen. Oops, maybe I will just pound this ear of corn, you know, like I do a lot of secret eating.

00:57:37 - 00:59:08 | Speaker 2:

I think I that reminds me of when I lived in LA and I had me and my ex had a some kind of a party a barbecue and it was it was like the only time this ever happened to me where it got like almost out of control because people everybody invited their friends who I didn't know and at some point it went from being like I don't know what the party was supposed to be 50 people there was like 300 people in our house and yard and like it was it was a whole thing and i was uh you know handling the grilling and i was i'm sure drinking and i was like i didn't eat anything which probably added to my um you know being a bit inebriated by the end of things but everybody finally left and the lights were out and i remember realizing i hadn't eaten anything and going out to the grill that was now off and opening it and realizing there was one cold hot dog that had been cooked but had not been consumed that was still on the grill so good and i pulled it off the grill and i remember kind of munching on it and going back in the kitchen and i remember more strangers showing up like the house was dark the lights are out and like four people who i don't know are coming up to the front of the house because they'd clearly heard that this is where the party was And I remember hiding in my kitchen Also, side note, I'm in my underwear No shirt I'm like in my tighty-whities Sitting on the floor of my kitchen Hiding from these strangers Eating a charred hot dog

00:59:08 - 00:59:21 | Speaker 1:

Are you in your underwear because the party's been over And now you stripped down Or the party got so wild that you ended up in your underwear Oh, I had a lampshade on my head, too I wasn't joking about that I wasn't sure if you were into some shenanigans that left you

00:59:21 - 00:59:51 | Speaker 2:

No, no shenanigans I had gone to bed and then woken up starving, I think Like this was me basically like, yeah, sleeping and having like no shirt on and just my tighty whiteys. And then at some point getting up to get the food or whatever. It wasn't because I was like, you know, jump like Will Ferrell in, you know, what's the anchorman or something. But I just remember sitting on that floor of that little kitchen in L.A. hiding from people I didn't know while eating this hot dog.

00:59:51 - 00:59:55 | Speaker 1:

Did you get in trouble? Did the cops come or did you get any warning? No, no, no.

00:59:55 - 01:00:43 | Speaker 2:

I always hate that. No, it wasn't like that level. It wasn't like – Whatever that that party that happened during the pandemic that was called like somebody is, I think, like chill. And I think this was in California where basically this guy, this kid, I mean, he was like in high school, wanted to have a birthday party. And he put some kind of invite out on social media and it just turned into the thing like that everybody wanted to go to. And like thousands and thousands of people were trying to show up for this party, which then couldn't even happen because like it was legally going to be a problem. But people were like responding to rumors about where this chill was, this kickback and chill or whatever. And then they monetize it. They were going to like now it's going to be a whole series of parties that they're throwing under this kid's name because this one like Facebook invite that he did went so viral.

01:00:43 - 01:01:17 | Speaker 1:

I've definitely had cops come to party. I've never had thousands of people at parties before. I remember Genevieve at one point, like Genevieve always kind of, I don't know, laughs at me or chides me because I do get pretty anxious about that she'll throw parties and have a lot of people over. And it always gets to a point where I'm concerned that, like, a neighbor is going to – and, again, I've never – I just don't like being hollered at, right? Like, it all comes back to that, the first words I ever uttered on TBTL, I don't like to be hollered at. I remember, you know, on that Capitol Hill apartment that we used to have, I swear you were probably at parties there. Maybe I didn't know you all that well then.

01:01:17 - 01:01:24 | Speaker 2:

That was where someone we know was talking a big game about doing the keg stand and then did a fake keg stand.

01:01:24 - 01:01:27 | Speaker 1:

But brought special clothes to do the keg stand in, I believe.

01:01:27 - 01:01:44 | Speaker 2:

Keg stand pants were a big part of this whole thing. And they were, I'm so excited to do this keg stand. And then they did the keg stand. And I looked over and realized they were literally not consuming any beer. And I was, you know, it was a real it was a really indelible moment in my mind. That's literally the person who put the burger back on the grill.

01:01:44 - 01:02:33 | Speaker 1:

I'm not even saying. And to God. But anyway, so, yeah, and I remember, like, you know, cops. I remember specifically one time some cops coming. They were very nice. I remember it was a woman who came and said, hey, we're just going to ask you to, you know, keep it down because, you know. The cop was a woman? The cop was a woman. I only gave that detail because I just remember it very clearly. And I remember her being very, you know, very kind as far as those things are concerned. But I just get so paranoid. I don't like anybody. Like in L.A. we had this party, but we lived in that really beautiful apartment. But it was kind of in a kind of tight knit area. And our property manager lived kind of across the courtyard. And he had a couple of kids. It's just a very different lifestyle. Our lifestyle and most of the people around us had kids. And I remember him coming out and being like, what are you guys doing? He was also the one who got on my case about smoking outside. Right.

01:02:34 - 01:02:49 | Speaker 2:

When I think of that guy, I think of the dude's landlord in Lebowski, who's also doing the one man show, who's like trying to get the rent from. Lebowski but is also Trying to invite him to his one man show

01:02:49 - 01:03:43 | Speaker 1:

You know it's funny he wasn't like that at all This guy this property manager Of ours was I mean he's a Wonderful guy I think I've told you I've seen him in a bunch Of commercials even during that time and Since he was younger My age or younger very nice Korean American guy beautiful family Really like not thirsty not weird Not just a really really really Nice solid man I Just of course at the time as you know we talked about it incessantly on the show thought it was ridiculous that i couldn't sit on my own porch outside and smoke cigarettes and so that kind of put him me and him at odds for a while but um and again it was just like it just wasn't the right lifestyle for us there like what vives and i wanted to do and you know what the the people around us in the in that little in that cute little courtyard you never yeah you had never seen that place but no i never saw pictures but anyway i don't know how i got onto all of that but yeah i could probably eat 30 eggs

01:03:43 - 01:04:38 | Speaker 2:

Speaking of parties Ringo Starr was celebrating his 81st Birthday at his peace and love Statue that he Forced on the citizens Of Beverly Hills I wonder if I should Just let this go at some point because Remember I sent you that picture I was in like A lift going past it And I've always described it I've misdescribed It as being a statue of Ringo Starr It's not as a statue of like a hand Throwing up the peace sign But there were people lined up to take pictures with it and it's like i don't know you know i'd rather it was the peace sign than it was the like rock sign where you kind of do the devil horns with your hand like if you know i don't know if uh like who's the like of james hetfield actually james hetfield seems like a nice guy i'm trying to think of like the rockinist rocker like if somebody was a rocker well that was another thing sammy hagar is apparently a really sweet dude as well that was one of the names that also

01:04:38 - 01:04:43 | Speaker 1:

cycled but you could also see he's could be sweet but he could also be into a statue that is the

01:04:43 - 01:05:29 | Speaker 2:

devil horns i'm thinking yeah maybe d snyder from twisted sister if somebody paid to have like the the rock devil horns i would like that less than the peace sign so i don't know if people on little star tours get a fun moment where they jump out of the thing and they the van and they take Thank you.

01:05:00 - 01:06:17 | Speaker 1:

pictures with it like i don't know who it's really harming but apparently ringo star shows up there on his birthday every year and he didn't get to do a public thing last year because of the pandemic so he and his wife just kind of showed up low-key on his birthday but uh this year he did show up the media was there he had some some classic japes like he said uh that uh emotionally sometimes i'm 18 we were laughing in the car saying i'm 18 today because it's 81 in reverse just relentlessly funny just relentlessly funny can you imagine being in a car riding with ringo starred and being like i'm turning 18 it's 81 in reverse like thanks ringo thanks for that it's just so relentlessly fun i can't even believe it uh so this was apparently kind of a it wasn't as Big of a production As it has been in years past but the media Was there And they reported on it his wife Was there as well I saw a photo of her she was wearing a t-shirt That said peace and love and I wondered About the conversation does Ringo Say are you gonna put the t-shirt on And she's like okay I gotta put on the piece Or you think she's just all in

01:06:17 - 01:06:53 | Speaker 2:

She's all in on her lifestyle yeah I mean I was listening to my beloved Kixi Radio the other day and at the end of whatever the beatles show was i just caught the end of it i think they said this must have been just last weekend because they said you know ringo's birthday is coming up and so in the immortal words of ringo star just remember live your life with peace and love peace and love like that is the brand now i always thought of it as just an embarrassing moment from that viral video i don't think it was until much later that later that i realized oh no this is his brand the peace and love brand i he's probably got a pair of like i don't know jeans that he sells as the peace and

01:06:53 - 01:08:18 | Speaker 1:

love jeans at this point everything Ringo Starr I'm I have briefly met Ringo Starr and he was very nice and again no joke the dude looks good for being 81 first of all he's got a better head of hair than me um which isn't saying a lot but like he's got good he's got a lot of hair he's pretty fit like he does not look 81 so I got to give him credit on that one but everything he's saying to the press who's writing this article just is so hard eye roll to me um the what had he been doing celebrating what had he been celebrating uh or how was he celebrating turning 81 years old and he said i woke up this morning he said drawing laughs oh ringo got that he had in fact also heard from paul mccartney already he just called me we still say hi to each other i'm still waiting for the gift like just has there ever been a a person who at their deepest level is less interesting than ringo star i mean other than being in one of the greatest bands in the history of the world and also like you know writing and performing some of those songs which i guess people can agree or disagree on the how good those songs that ringo did were He was also in Shining Time Station. I mean, Ringo Starr has, by every account, had an incredible life and has achieved a level of fame that none of us will ever achieve. And yet at his core, he just seems deeply boring to me.

01:08:19 - 01:10:00 | Speaker 2:

Well, yeah. And I don't you know, I know that people still love the Beatles. I think for me, it's a weird personal thing. You and I are going to talk about this more in an upcoming show that we already recorded. Oh, right. That like I mean, I grew up I mean, I loved the Beatles. They were the only band in the world to me for a big chunk of my childhood, and they opened all kinds of musical doors, you know, from a fan's perspective to me, and, like, they blew me away for so long, and, like, it's hard for me to turn my back on that, but it is also, like, you know, you see the fab four in these press conferences when they first came to America, and they were teenagers, and they did, you know, all of these cheeky jokes, you know, how did you find America? Turn left to Greenland. Oh, are you a model or a rocker? Like all this shit that was like really charming when it was 1964. Right. Did they come in four or five? I think 1964. And they were teenagers. When was Schubert Dipp? Let's see. It was on the Voight album. But yeah. And so but then as they get older and then I mean, I think George turned out OK. It's hard to say how John would have would have aged had he survived longer. And that does make me sad. I know that, I mean, he definitely went through phases where it was like, oh, man, like looking back at some of the things John Lennon didn't said as an adult do seem cringy to me. Nothing in particular, but just like him being on the oh, I'm blanking on the famous talk show that everybody. Ed Sullivan. I was thinking of the other one, but it doesn't matter. But, you know, just talk show appearances where he is so high in his own supply. Maybe he would have turned out to be a really annoying older person, too. But there's something specific about Ringo and Paul that they just still think that they're.

01:10:00 - 01:10:51 | Speaker 3:

those kids on the on the dais giving these cheeky answers the only thing is it's like they're not that funny or charming anymore and they're still I guess maybe okay musicians I don't know but it's like they just never really but there's it's also something that literally nobody in the world can associate with like even the most popular band I mean the Beatles whether or not you even like the Beatles and I realize it's still very antiquated they created something that everything will be compared to still for a long long time and it's been you know well over 50 years now so or yeah yeah well 60 whatever years now since that those moments and so it's just right it's hard for i want to criticize them because when i hear it i cringe and i just think oh you're not cute you're not funny but on the other hand like how were they supposed to turn out right when

01:10:51 - 01:11:50 | Speaker 2:

that was what their experience was and this is probably the listeners that are so tired of me Dragging Ringo Starr are probably saying Yeah what do you want from the guy Like he's a person who has had the Experience of being one of the most Famous human beings on planet earth For A huge amount of his life and his big His big Transgression is he wants more peace and love Yeah right right yeah you know it's like This is not the worst thing that a person can Do which is totally true I would say though I would submit into Evidence his response to why he Looks good at 81 the reporter asks how does he look better at 81 than most of the attendees at his party who are decades younger i don't know he said at first before deciding to reveal his secret i don't wear a hat that's why what like what is it like to go through life just saying not by the way hold your emails because i realize the glass house i'm in but what must it be like to go through life just saying nonsense

01:11:50 - 01:11:56 | Speaker 3:

and having everyone pretend like it's something well as i famously said ziggle zag it let's get

01:11:56 - 01:12:32 | Speaker 2:

back at it all right let's do some music for your weekend that does sound like a ringo line by the way hey don't ruin it was that in the magic christian don't ruin it zag it i wanted to be a version on the marsupial gurgle website of me doing a ringo star impersonation of you saying ziggle zag it now you're really wow ziggle zag it let's get back at it i don't even That's the worst Ringo Starr impression. He's not even hard to impersonate, and yet I can't even achieve that. Peace and love. Peace and love. I want to suggest Octopus's Garden.

01:12:33 - 01:14:27 | Speaker 3:

God damn it. I was ready with a yellow submarine, Joe. You were going to catroll me? No, no. I wasn't going to catroll you. I was just going to say, well, I'm going to play yellow submarine. It was the only, for some reason, that was the first Ringo song that came to my head. But no, if you want me to go first, which I often do, how about this? You know, I can't claim to know the song all that well. I heard it today for the very, very first time because it's a brand new song. Courtney Barnett has a brand new album coming out. I love her. The album is not – I know. It's just so cool. Like, honestly, I just – I mean, I love the – I want to be friends with her. I was very late to the Courtney Barnett party, and then when I came to it, I really fell head over heels a couple of years ago with her kind of like whatever she had at that point, three albums out. And now I think this will be – well, whatever. Sorry. It doesn't matter my narrative with Courtney Barnett. I got into her because I bought her latest record having seen – somebody flyered our neighborhood for the new Courtney Barnett record. Wow. Do you remember that? Wow. And I'm blanking on the name of it right now. And I ended up finding myself at a record store and seeing it on a cassette tape and saying, I haven't bought a cassette tape in decades. Here's a new album on a cassette. I'd seen these flyers around our neighborhood. And you had liked that song, Just Sea Lice, or No Sea Lice. Oh, a whole lot of sea lice. A whole lot of sea lice. Yeah, that was the album that she did with Kurt Vile. Thank you for getting there. I was totally blanking on Vile's name, of course. And so I was like, oh, I think Luke likes her. So anyway, I fell head over heels. I don't think she's released a new record since then. It's coming out, I believe, in just a couple of weeks. But she released the first track off of it, which is called Ray Street, Which is, you know, it doesn't quite have the summer vibes that maybe we're all looking for on this sunny Friday But I love it, and so let's experience it together Here's Ray Street by Courtney Barnett

01:14:38 - 01:14:59 | Speaker 1:

In the morning I'm slow I drag a chair over to the window And I watch what's going on The garbage truck tiptoes along the road

01:15:00 - 01:15:52 | Speaker 4:

Light a candle for the suffering Send my best wishes with the wind All out, candles, hopes and prayers Though well-meaning they don't mean a thing Unless we see some change I might change my sheets today Well, time is money And money is no man's friend And all eyes on the pavement I'm not gonna touch ya Don't worry so much

01:15:52 - 01:16:06 | Speaker 1:

All eyes on the pavement. I love that line. I cannot wait for this to come out. But I think this is going to be another moment in my Courtney Barnett tradition. I will be buying a physical copy of this, whether it's a cassette or a CD or vinyl.

01:16:07 - 01:16:26 | Speaker 2:

I love her music so much, and I can't quite put my finger on it. Her songwriting is so interesting to me. It's so engaging, and it's just really her describing her feelings, her talking about her day. Like, a lot of that stuff off of, I think, that song Avant Gardener. Yeah, definitely.

01:16:26 - 01:16:27 | Speaker 1:

It's all like that, yeah.

01:16:28 - 01:16:46 | Speaker 2:

It's just her going through her day, her having a panic attack, the ambulance showing up, the EMT thinking that it's cool that she's a singer, her thinking it's cool that the EMT saves lives. Like, there's just something – like, there are some people who are able to just write about their life in this way that's just so engaging to me.

01:16:46 - 01:17:15 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, and there's nothing specifically lyrical about her lyrics either. That's it's almost like spoken word in this way. And and and and and as poetry, just taking the music away, it really speaks to what I like, where she'll she'll get into things that seem super mundane. But they tell such a bigger story, you know what I mean? And that's kind of the hallmark of what she's doing. I think she's really, really brilliant. And just to say it one more time, just so cool. I just wish I was cool like Courtney.

01:17:15 - 01:18:12 | Speaker 2:

I know. Honestly, I want to be friends now that I'm friends with Jeff Tweedy. Oh, yeah. I have to have a new person I'm obsessed with, and it's Courtney Barnett. Maybe he can introduce you. I'm sure they know each other. Of course they know each other. Probably hanging out right now without me. Being cool. The song that I want to suggest is, per usual, nicked from my daughter's Spotify page. It's by a singer named Q. I don't know anything about this guy other than what I have been Googling while we were listening to Courtney Barnett. There was an article on OnesToWatch.com saying, Q is an anomaly, a transfixing voice whose enigmatic nature calls to mind both the idea of worldwide stardom and an enduring cult classic. He's 21 years old. He's from Broward County, Florida. And the song that I want to play is called Take Me Where Your Heart Is by this guy named Q. I just gave you all the information that I know about him. I think the song is pretty dope, though.

01:18:15 - 01:18:45 | Unknown:

Thank you.

01:18:45 - 01:19:26 | Speaker 3:

I'm so into you, but I don't know where I am, oh, I just want you to, to take me where your heart is, and you may wonderful, I would never want you to, feel like you could never I love this all you want I would never do you wrong Hold it down and give me some time

01:19:26 - 01:19:45 | Unknown:

I'm so into you But I don't know where I am I just want you to To take away your heart, yes

01:19:45 - 01:19:51 | Speaker 3:

Oh, oh, oh, I am so intense

01:19:51 - 01:19:52 | Speaker 2:

So there you go.

01:19:52 - 01:19:52 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's beautiful.

01:19:53 - 01:20:21 | Speaker 2:

Good, right? I can see that being on a summer playlist. Yeah, very summer. I don't actually know when the song came out. It might be old, but it's... It's new to me, and I'm really enjoying it. I'm really excited because I just saw that somebody on the TBTL Sten's Slack page is playing a video game called Elder Scrolls, and they made a character called Grimly the Pleasant. Very intimidating looking Grimly the Pleasant. Ork level 11, it looks like. I can't see.

01:20:21 - 01:20:30 | Speaker 1:

Can we start one of those online petitions to get Peter Jackson to include Grimly the Pleasant? in the next loader offering.

01:20:31 - 01:20:48 | Speaker 2:

Or just when we create a, yeah, we just create like a whole movie. Yeah, like a movie around Grimly the Pleasant. Like when your brother was on recently, he was talking about how he had to create some fantasy fiction around the Lord of the Rings.

01:20:48 - 01:20:50 | Speaker 1:

I think they were called like the Blue Wizards.

01:20:50 - 01:20:54 | Speaker 2:

The Blue Wizards, and they were all playing poker, if I recall. Or maybe that was my idea. I can't remember.

01:20:55 - 01:20:58 | Speaker 1:

You're thinking of that painting of the dogs that I gave you playing poker.

01:20:58 - 01:21:01 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, but they're all wearing wizard hats, right? Yeah, no, that is right.

01:21:01 - 01:21:14 | Speaker 1:

Anyway, yeah, so congratulations. Speaking of my brother and music, can I remind folks that the Song of the Summer competition, if you will, or I don't know, contest is weird. There are no winners and losers. There are just people who get to enjoy music.

01:21:14 - 01:21:16 | Speaker 2:

And all the losers who don't get picked.

01:21:16 - 01:22:45 | Speaker 1:

Right, exactly. The Song of the Summer is going on. You can go to tbtl.net, and you can listen to all of the songs that are currently in contention. There's 16 of them. And next week, well, we're going to actually record on Thursday, so you'll have to have your votes in by Thursday. But next week, DFTB is going to swing back over to the Nest Broadcast Studio, and we're going to announce which eight songs are moving on to the next round. Yeah, that's right. So please go vote, listen, enjoy, and all of that. Our listener suggestion for music for your weekend Comes from listener Sam Sam says the band Granddaddy Came up in passing on the show the other day I think that's because we were In Modesto Or we were like You know We were in Sacramento I guess And we were trying to find For some reason I was trying to figure out What bands are from Modesto Yeah I don't remember that coming up I mentioned it I mean obviously listener Sam heard it And I think it had to do with me trying to find a band that was from where we were at, although we didn't actually do the show from Modesto, we did the show from Megan's house in Sacramento, but somehow bands from Modesto came up and the band Granddaddy was mentioned, and Sam says it reminded me of one of my favorite songs of all time is by them, so I'd like to nominate it for music for your weekend. The song is called AM 180, and I hope y'all like it as much as I do. Ride on

01:22:45 - 01:22:55 | Speaker 2:

you midnight cowboys oh i love that that's a thing yeah i believe that was coined by veronique right listener veronique left it at the end of a voicemail one time i actually was it veronique

01:22:55 - 01:23:07 | Speaker 1:

i thought it was yeah oh okay because don't we have another one where a listener says there's something about the hot air balloon ride oh that one too yeah that was um corinne i believe

01:23:07 - 01:23:39 | Speaker 2:

that is corinne okay yeah look at us look at us knowing all the listeners you guys i'm can i just say something really quickly yes you guys y'all gotta keep listening like we know all of you now like we will notice if you leave no irish goodbyes either no just like quietly stopping downloading the show actually that's we can't say that because people we always get not mad but we i've i've taken people to task for telling me like sending me emails saying i'm gonna stop listening to your show now i'm like right i don't do that why do you have to let me know that and

01:23:39 - 01:23:42 | Speaker 1:

then now we're saying don't you dare leave the show and also let us know when you're leaving

01:23:42 - 01:23:49 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, like that time when I wrote to Tony Shalhoub and said, hey, I'm going to take a break from Monk for a while. Anyway.

01:23:50 - 01:24:26 | Speaker 1:

All right. So we're going to go out with this song by Granddaddy. It's AM 180, suggested by listener Sam. That's going to bring us to the end of our broadcast week. Thanks for listening, everyone. Thanks for hanging out with us. We're going to be back here on Monday doing this thing again. I was talking to somebody yesterday about the show, and they were just floored by the fact that we've done 3,000 episodes. They were like like this. The question always comes is, what do you talk about? And I'm like, I don't know. Just me and my friend Andrew. We talk about whatever is going through our mind that day. And like, how do you do so many shows? I'm like, I don't know. We just do it five days a week. So it really adds up.

01:24:26 - 01:24:29 | Speaker 2:

Oh, I always say we do in-depth investigative reporting.

01:24:30 - 01:25:29 | Speaker 1:

Like that tweet that I retweeted from Leon Nafok, the slow burn host. Did you see that? What is this all about? His tweet was – basically it was like a screen cap of notes that he was making about an episode of Slow Burn. And his point was he said, if you ever wonder why like high-quality podcasts cost a lot of money to produce, here's why. And the notes were so detailed. It was like a minute – I don't know.

01:25:00 - 01:25:19 | Speaker 2:

And such is this breath too long Or is this pause too long minute Oh this is not enough of a Pause minute like it was like Down to the like the granular level Of like a pause A breath like second by Second and his point was it takes a lot Of work to make this and I said that's I retweeted I said this is exactly how we do TBT

01:25:19 - 01:25:44 | Speaker 3:

I'm looking at this now I'm also looking at your latest tweet which I know we Want to get out of here but I also know there's nothing you like More than talking about your tweets I'll allow it I like your latest tweet What did I say? You didn't say it Well, what you said was I don't know, man Did you take this photo of a McDonald's sign? Yes That's a really good capture It's a McDonald's sign at night It's on Burnside Here in Portland

01:25:44 - 01:25:52 | Speaker 2:

And it's on both sides of the sign I looped around to take the picture But on both sides they did this It like really needs a comma

01:25:52 - 01:26:05 | Speaker 3:

It says new spicy chicken deluxe slushies like oh god again that's good I'll give that a like here oh I got the cover you got 110 likes now and two retweets nice

01:26:05 - 01:26:18 | Speaker 2:

alright well I'm going to spend my weekend refreshing Twitter and seeing how that tweet performs and I'll meet all of you back here my phone just gave me a notification that you liked that tweet

01:26:18 - 01:26:20 | Speaker 3:

oh look it's all happening

01:26:20 - 01:26:33 | Speaker 2:

what world do we live in where we're talking to each other about the tweet you're liking the tweet I'm seeing it on my phone. All right. It's time to be done with this nonsense for the week. We'll see you on Monday. Have a great weekend, everybody. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

01:26:55 - 01:27:50 | Speaker 1:

I know you won't. It's just that I am unorganized and I want to find you when something good happens. If you come down, we'll go to town I haven't been there for years But I'd be fine, wasting our time Not doing anything here

01:27:50 - 01:28:25 | Unknown:

Just doing nothing We'll be right back.

01:28:25 - 01:28:34 | Speaker 1:

Power out.

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