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#3468 An Embarrassment Of Ians
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3468 An Embarrassment Of Ians

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

July 16, 2021 | 01:05:56 | Leisure, Comedy

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David From The Basement swings by to reveal the first round winners of the TBTL Song Of The Summer contest!
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So why would he use his son's gun? He knew that we would trace it back to that house. It doesn't make sense.

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A lot of things don't make sense. Why are nickels bigger than dimes?

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That's a good point.

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Why does Hawaii have an interstate highway? Another excellent question. Why doesn't Tarzan have a beard?

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I don't know. I couldn't say.

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Why'd the Flintstones celebrate Christmas?

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when are you retiring t b t m

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guess what day it is guess what day it is

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it's friday friday gotta get down on friday everybody's looking forward to the weekend and what we did see is we took them turds and we crammed them in between the number there so that's one thirty two thirty three thirty it's embarrassing and it's gross but at least it's kind of funny.

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No dad wants to have this talk with his son, but you're just not eating enough hot dogs.

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Well, you have found my flabbergast button, and guess what? You've pressed it.

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Hey, looky here. Why don't we eat us a few thousand beers, and you tell me what's buzzing in the big, bad city.

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All right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TBTL. We're getting medium play on three independent radio stations in Central Europe. The show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name's Luke Burbank. I'm your host. Coming to you from the Nest Broadcast Center, high in the sky above Portland, Oregon.

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I'm an activist and house party enthusiast.

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We have a fun show in store for you on this Friday. It's episode 3468 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. we are going to narrow down the song songs of the summer that is the songs that we are going to the song i guess you could say that eventually will be declared the best song of this summer we're gonna go from 16 entrance down to eight california got sunshine once again what i think is the possibly the greatest song of the summer is being left out of the competition

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the good news is we do have 16 really good songs that the listeners have been voting on

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none of them are that one but they'll have to do and we're going to narrow it down to eight coming up here in just a few minutes uh we'll also probably do some emails and v-mails and we'll talk to this guy the longest running cobro of the show maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He wants to be very clear about something right here at the top of the show.

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No, no, no, no, no. I don't have a dog on that flight.

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He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Hello, my friend.

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That sounded great, by the way. Just hearing it. Just natural. No, no, no. I don't have a dog on that flight. It really worked for me. By the way, speaking of songs and songs of the summer, I have been somewhat unironically really getting into the McGruff record that we talked about on yesterday. show i've been singing um uh don't do inhalants all day don't do inhalants and i can't remember

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exactly how the the mortgage broker that i use rob don't use inhalants i mean honestly it was

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like that me singing rob tomahela under my breath on the road trip only replace it with don't do inhalants which is a better message frankly it absolutely is i really think we've started

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something and when uh you know a few days have gone by and folks have had a chance to dig into that episode i think that mcgruff tape is really gonna i think it's really gonna um uh become a big part of what we're doing for the next few months because i mean those songs are just really quite unbelievable um also i haven't done any inhalants since i started singing that song

00:03:59 - 00:04:13 | Speaker 2:

exactly zero times sorry exactly although we only recorded that episode like two hours ago you gave it up that long you gave up the kayfabe so fast yes we are recording this actually on a

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thursday because of the very busy schedule of one hermano of mine the one the only the david from the basement uh he is joining us now from uh just a few feet to my left hey buddy oh howdy gentlemen how are you hello great to see you thanks for making it i understand there was a little snafu uh you got dropped off at the wrong coffee shop and had to like basically jog over

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here i did yeah which luckily i have a lot of practice of that um but yeah it was actually a beautiful stroll it was about a mile and a half um but yeah that's why i was running a little a teensy bit late so i apologize about who dropped you off at the wrong coffee shop uh my partner she uh is on her way to an interview at a uh a local So...

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farm to do some farming uh stuff specifically coming up in fall they do like a big pumpkin patch and stuff um and so she's interviewing there her interview was at 12 30 uh not too much of a look behind the curtain but it is 12 40 so you notice that i when i said to andrew i didn't say

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good morning my friend i said how are you my friend and that was a very because i don't lie

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to the listeners about what time of day it is it's an evergreen uh way to introduce greeting Sure. And so she dropped me off at a place called Crema, which was a coffee shop. I thought, oh, I'll get a coffee. I'll sort of meander around, read my book a little bit, and then head over to the old, to the Nest Broadcast Center. And it turns out there are two Cremas in downtown Portland. One of them was about a mile and a half away, and that was the one that I got dropped off at. Are you guys on a nice brisk walk?

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Are you guys going to be okay?

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I'm just glad you got some steps in, because I know you've been leading a very sedentary lifestyle.

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How many miles a day are you running these days?

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It's about, I try to do about 8 to 10 a day. But I am trying to take a day, at least one day off a week and doing like no running. Because apparently that's, it's good for your muscles to kind of heal a little bit.

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Yeah, let's, yeah, there's a McGruff song about that actually. Yeah, I think so. It's on the B side of that tape and it's take one day a week off from running.

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I've been letting my muscles heal for about 15 years now. They're about ready for, tell me when they're ready for exercising.

00:06:27 - 00:07:04 | Speaker 2:

again so uh david we have been joking i i was hoping you understood that we were joking with you about needing to donate to the show in order to get access to the riff track of lord of the rings which was basically you dazzling us with your knowledge of lord of the rings uh and then earlier today you just sent me and andrew a message that says like give me the riff track you assholes associated with it was also the form for you donating to the show it's very nice of you I feel like you do donate a lot to the show Just in your time and energy And money over the years

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By the way

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I know, I was kind of My kid brother, 20 years younger than me Who's just kind of starting off in life You know, it's very humbling When you donate to the show And I appreciate it But speaking of that Loader riff track We received an email recently That we thought was very interesting related to that recording that we made. And I thought I'd read this for you. Dear Andrew, and most particularly, David from the basement. Couldn't remember my name, eh? You have every elf and orc in the Similarion down pat. Silmarillion, but very... But you couldn't come up with the name of the shawl lady feeling her bohemian vibe in the Tolkien class? Well, harumph.

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Oh, no.

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Actually, I loved every minute of your podcast on Loader and am absolutely delighted to be remembered in that way. In fact, I haven't stopped laughing since a friend of mine called my attention to it. She's a big fan of TBTL and sent it to me once she realized who you were talking about. I do remember you somewhat, David, though it's been quite a while. I think, and of course, you had some real last name. You had some real last name and weren't going by From the Basement at the time. Your commentary on the podcast was brilliant. And I'm retiring soon. So go ahead and read The Cimmerillion several more times, and we'll talk.

00:08:37 - 00:08:51 | Speaker 1:

Wow. Okay, wait. So what is her name, though? This is from Robin Stacy. Robin Stacy. Yes. We're an incredible woman. Wow. I cannot believe that she sent that. That is really fantastic.

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I want to mention, though, I need to be accurate. She says JK, of course, but I did enjoy it. So I think she's JK-ing about handing off the baton of teaching the loader class at the UW. There's probably some sort of more formal process than just getting a cup of coffee. Although that's a very loader way to pass that off. Like, you know, Rob and Stacey has got her shawl on, and she's on a windy hill. and she hands you a bluff somewhere, real Gandalf-y, and then she's handing you the syllabus.

00:09:25 - 00:09:27 | Speaker 3:

Yes, and a sword, maybe a sword on fire.

00:09:27 - 00:09:35 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's like the handing off of Anduril, Flame of the West. That's what I was thinking of. Yeah, formerly Narsil, the Shards of Narsil.

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Now, do you think that people who haven't heard the riff track have picked up on enough context clues here about what we're talking about? No, I really should explain this.

00:09:43 - 00:09:56 | Speaker 2:

We were talking about this class that you took at the UW, right? Yeah, that's right. and uh and and you were uh talking about the class but you weren't quite able to remember the name of the person who taught the class and uh that person is named robin stacy and

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apparently you described her as a what was it a shawled shawl lady feeling her bohemian vibe did enjoy wearing a good shawl which i mean i would wear shawls yeah if there were if i found any good ones um and yeah i think i did describe her style as very like bohemian style which i hope she takes no offense to um this i i took this email

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to indicate that she really enjoyed uh first of all just your commentary on loader and also how

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she was described and also say that andrew yeah and also she signed it sincerely lurk the super

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orc aka robin stacy there's a little more to the email she says uh i enjoyed the show and now i want to go to new zealand to see the should be visited tourist trap loved the stories about you

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and your dad keep up the great work guys lurk the super orc aka robin stacy now i don't even remember that is that something that we riffed on on the riff track lurk the super orc i was

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Fairly tuned up by the end of that riffing, so I don't remember. I think it was a reference to Lurtz, who is sort of a super orc. Oh, right, right, right. I think you probably referred to them as Lurk.

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You think we can get Robin, before she's all done teaching this class at the UW, could we get her to work in more Grimly the Pleasant? Just sneak in a little question in the final assignment. We're trying to get Chris Hayes to say weird stuff on his TV show and trying to get Robin Stacy to teach weird stuff at her class at the UW.

00:11:24 - 00:11:55 | Speaker 1:

Anyway, that is damn delightful. I want to, I mean, maybe I don't want to know, but I like fantasizing about how this made its way to your former professor because this isn't even a podcast. This isn't like, hey, you're mentioned at hour one of this podcast here. You can download it here. Like somehow somebody knew this person and heard her mention on a riff track for Lord of the Rings. Did she have to donate to get the – I didn't have the riff track until literally this morning.

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Wow.

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That is such a good question. Owen Wilson, wow.

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That is such a good question. How did she get it before you?

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Rob and Stacey, you owe us a donation.

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Yeah, that's right.

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This is actually how we do it. It's one of the oldest grifts in the book. You send someone a riff track in which You're sort of half remembering them They listen to it and once they listen to it It's a legally binding contract that they then Owe you a donation to your show

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Oh my god I love it

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I mean I don't want to go back and try to revisit This too much or retread The same territory but I just Cannot believe that you Were not lapping Everyone in that class on loader knowledge

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Yeah that's what we gotta talk about

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I mean it sounded like you said you were sort of you know you were probably I mean, you're a bright person and you take your studies seriously. So I'm sure you got an A in the class. But, like, I just – I honestly feel like there is nothing about the loader world that you don't know about. Were there people in the class that actually knew more than you? Yeah.

00:12:56 - 00:13:19 | Speaker 3:

I mean, aside from the professor? Yes, there were. The weird thing is most of those students didn't have a podcast to, like, come on and talk about it. A lot of them – you would be surprised to hear not the most, like, outgoing. Sure. On radio shows And things like that So I think I'm just the most vocal Of all of the smarties in that class

00:13:19 - 00:13:50 | Speaker 2:

You're a double threat You're a person who both nerds out hard on stuff But is also comfortable In this kind of public space To the degree this is a public space So you're saying there were other folks in that class Who their knowledge may have gone deeper But the chances of hearing them on a podcast Are maybe a little bit less Yeah, certainly Yeah, well, Rob and Stacey Thank you for checking in And we hope that you become a listener That's the other way that we grow the audience, is by kind of name-checking people, but then not completely remembering their names. And then that's how we get them.

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And then burying it in three hours of content that you should listen to.

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I didn't even think, like, hardcore listeners were going to listen to the rip track. And we've got people who have literally never heard of TBTL who are enduring it. Unless their friend, like, pointed them to the part of the show where they were mentioned, which I always find mildly offensive. Like when people, not so much even with a TBTL, but more with Livewire. So sometimes we'll do an interview with someone, and it'll be, I don't know, 20 minutes into the show. And then they'll be nice enough to, like, send it out on their social. And they'll be like, oh, I had a really great time being on this show, Livewire. The part with me starts at 20 in. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:14:31 - 00:14:48 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the good stuff's at the top. Exactly. Just like our tow truck driver did that, remember? Oh, yeah. He was promoting TBTL, which is good on him. Nobody else is. But he did post to his Facebook page Exactly the time stamps Where he is mentioned On the podcast

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That's exactly what I'm talking about This is a guy who's driving a tow truck In the absolute desolation That is the Arizona desert You have time to listen to the whole show My friend

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As do the people that are on your Facebook page You know, I think I mentioned this to you, Andrew But the very nice owner of the Delica Asked me to write a review Oh yeah On the website How do I write a review that's both glowing But also truthful Because it was an amazing van We had a great time It also did break down in the desolation of the Arizona desert

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I would I would not ever encourage somebody being dishonest But in this case I would really focus on the customer service, for lack of a better word. Like, you know, the people we rented it from were really amazing. And while we found ourselves in a situation, even getting out of that situation, they made it as easy as possible on us. I mean, Luke, you had to deal with all of that, but that's my understanding that it could have been just so bad in so many ways. And thanks to them for, you know, helping us out of some jams. So, I don't know, maybe you can avoid the part about us breaking down in the desert, but really just focus on what a great experience it was, you know, before that happened.

00:15:58 - 00:16:04 | Speaker 1:

okay i would just let andrew write it actually oh no and i'm coming in hot no no no you don't

00:16:04 - 00:16:56 | Speaker 2:

want me to write it because i'm going to come in hot i only write negative yelp reviews do you know that we now have a little plaque do you remember i won't tell the whole story but one time jenevieve and i were uh for christmas visiting her folks in atlanta and we were at the atlanta airport trying to get the car that we had reserved at a rental place and they were out of cars this is well before the pandemic and everything it was just like bad service all around just classically the seinfeld bit yeah i mean it really has come to life and genevieve in a moment of just frustration impotent frustration just fine ends the conversation by saying well you're getting the yelp review of a lifetime her brother um just recently gifted us with a cross stitch of that of a cute little car that says you're getting the yelp review of a lifetime and it's the frame on our wall right outside my door oh that's beautiful that's not even close though to

00:16:56 - 00:18:04 | Speaker 1:

how embarrassingly i behaved re a rental car remember when i was trying to go i was trying to rent a car from uh it was like enterprise and it was one of those things where they just the computer had not prioritized enough cars to be at this location it was actually just up the street from you was in the roosevelt neighborhood of washington and i go in uh and the the young person working there he's just totally overwhelmed there's just a waiting room full of furious people because everyone's a friday everybody was getting these cars to go on their weekend trip somewhere and there were like no cars at this location and so i had i was in a i had taken an uber to this place and so i went back and i'm sitting in the back of the uber and i called enterprise and the person answers the phone and i and i start telling them about how frustrated i am about this because there are no cars and i said and this kid who's running this place he's just in over his head has no idea what he's doing and uh he said uh sir i am that kid it had routed me it was not an 800 number it was just the enterprise i was he said and he looked out the window i can see that you're

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in that uber it's like a nightmare it's like a stress dream like the one time you know how hard

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it is to actually get a hold of a human being at the physical location of the thing i mean that's one of the real frustrations of modern life is you're trying to just talk to the person who works at the physical place that you're about to go to whether it's a haircut whether it's a rental car whatever everything needs to be routed now to an 800 number i think it all has to do with you know just trying to um like the apple store is an example the apple store is crazy these days you have to like it's all app-based you can't maybe it's changed maybe it will change when the pandemic's fully over but you can't just walk into the apple store and go hi can you help me with this or can i buy this and i feel like that was even before the pandemic it was starting to

00:18:50 - 00:19:25 | Speaker 2:

become that way pizza hut i ended up talking i was trying to order pizza from pizza hut in seattle and ended up talking to somebody in dallas wow because i'm in a that's how you out yeah pizza hut out andrewed me i am in soviet russia exactly i care i think i i don't know what happened i just went online or i maybe i made a phone call to the local place ordered the pizza and then all of a sudden i was getting phone calls from texas and it was because like i live in an area between pizza huts they could not deliver to me but they couldn't handle it on the local level i was dealing with

00:19:25 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 1:

somebody in the lone star state to be honest with you doing the online stuff and using app-based things is probably simpler but i am just in that generation where it still feels inconvenient to me i think if i like if you know i would rather call a place and like put my order in over the phone uh even though i'm sure that i'm sure it's faster and i probably will get a better like they'll have it all printed out there exactly what i want you know if it's a pizza or whatever it is but something about having to go through the internet to do stuff still feels to me like it's a hassle

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I'm surprised. coming from you um because you do so much e-commerce uh which sounds like a joke but i was being serious um luke i actually i know we have to go to a break but i actually have a very uh important question i've been meaning to ask you regarding car rentals what in the hell is going on with that fee that they were charging you the 200 claiming that you smoked in a car that

00:20:18 - 00:21:54 | Speaker 1:

you most certainly did not smoke in it was 250 okay sorry it's going and uh i am happy to report that it did actually get removed eventually from my CBS corporate Amex. I don't know if you happened to catch that episode, Dave. No, I did. I was furious. I mean, this is apparently you put in your like you ran a reverse split. Your last three miles were like sub five minutes because you were so angry. I guess this is a thing that's happening, though. We got some emails from people and even a link to a story. I think it might have been in the L.A. Times about basically like rental car companies. because a lot of them are hurting financially because of the pandemic have started just finding any way they can to run up extra charges on people there was this sorry this is a bit gruesome but it was the story that was in the la times there was somebody who had a story of finding a used condom in their car which they actually like their nephew noticed like their little baby they were driving their baby nephew somewhere and he was like auntie what's that and um and somehow in all of this this woman she called uh the company and she complained as you you uh would and then they were going to give her some kind of small discount on the rental but then when she so she like brings the car back it's now condom free and uh there they said okay we're going to give you a hundred bucks off or whatever it was and then as she's on her way to the airport she gets a notification on her phone that they've charged her for smoking in the car.

00:21:55 - 00:21:55 | Speaker 2:

Oh, my God.

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Basically as a way of trying to recoup the discount they'd given her for the fact that she found a used condom.

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Did she even get to keep the condom?

00:22:09 - 00:22:29 | Speaker 1:

So anyway, that kind of stuff is going on all the time. And a lot of people were writing into this consumer reporter who was writing this piece. A lot of people report being charged for smoking in a car even though they're non-smokers and it's like infuriating it's impossible to prove i mean how do you disprove a negative right like how do you prove that you didn't do something you didn't smoke

00:22:29 - 00:22:33 | Speaker 2:

in a car if it smells like cigarette smoke well in your case you tell them in advance and you

00:22:33 - 00:23:39 | Speaker 1:

complain about it yet they still i mean that's why i mean the only thing i could have done i guess is called the pizza hut in dallas yeah and talk to them like i guess there was another number i was supposed to call something else happened the other day i had to rent another car and i forget what it was oh you know what it was it was um when when uh uh i was coming up my life is such a blur sometimes anyway i was somewhere renting a car and what i noticed was oh it was in napa it had like a the back of it was a subaru and there was like a kind of a it's hard to explain but basically like this mechanism where you can pull a screen like a screen out that covers the back area so if you have stuff in there it's you can you can kind of cover it up or it can be open Anyway, that thing was just in the back of the Subaru, and when I tried to put it in its place and pull the little screen out, it was all jammed up. It didn't work. And I was filled with a panic that I was going to get charged. In fact, I should check my account because it's possible they've charged me for breaking that thing out even though it was broken. But this is how lazy I am. I still didn't call customer service. Yeah.

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Well, check your charges, though.

00:23:42 - 00:24:36 | Speaker 1:

Yeah. So anyway. All right. Let's do this. Let's take a quick break, and then when we come back, this is exciting. we are going to hear the eight songs that are moving forward in the TBTL Song of the Summer contest. So stay with us. More in a moment. Let's thank some donors of the day. These are the wonderful, generous people making the show possible. Some of them in this very room with me, even as we speak. Let's thank Julie Huffman Of Oxnard, California Which will forever be The home of Anderson Paak To me now Yep It used to be I think Where Phil Hendry broadcasts from And now I think of it As being Anderson Paakland Thanks Julie Also Lloyd Inouye Of Seattle, Washington Hey Lloyd

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Hey Lloyd

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Thank you for donating Also Jane and Ross Johnson Are in Everett, Washington They're supporting the show As is Robin Laughlin Iran In Stevens Point Wisconsin Oh that sounds nice That sounds like there's a water park there

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Oh yeah maybe a water park

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I'm picturing a really bucolic scene on a lake. I don't know why. How many lakes do you think they have in Wisconsin? Oh, probably. I think of the land of 10,001 lakes, right? Yes, famously. And then Elisa Nicholas is in Atlantic Beach, Florida. Oh, she was at the Florida show. And then Derek Schlicker is in Kenmore, Washington. Thanks, Derek. Thanks to all of our donors of the day. We just couldn't do this show. without you so thanks for keeping this thing rolling 3 468 episodes in how many of those

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episodes you think you've heard dftv every single one no no way like dude i started listening night one on my little am radio mom got me for christmas yeah oh my gosh that's so touching i

00:25:49 - 00:26:23 | Speaker 1:

really appreciate that i figured that maybe you know i don't know a few years ago or whenever it was you kind of got into the show and then you started having it as a regular practice and yes We do consider this a Buddhist practice, listening to TBTL. You know what's kind of – what's slightly mind-blowing? We really got to get to the songs, so I will try to take too much time with this. There would have been a time when both of you were living your lives, doing other things, listening to TBTL. Yeah. As me and Jen and Sean were doing it from the radio station. And now you are both integral parts.

00:26:23 - 00:26:31 | Speaker 3:

Probably both puttering around the yard, mowing the lawn. I was mowing the lawn at Mom and Dad's. I'm sure Andrew was in New Hampshire. And, yeah, listening to TVTL.

00:26:32 - 00:26:40 | Speaker 1:

So all you folks listening out there who have dreams of being on the show, just be patient. Eventually everyone will get to be a co-host of this program by the time it's all done.

00:26:40 - 00:26:46 | Speaker 2:

Just a touch of stalking, too. Just make sure if you move to Seattle, you contact Luke directly and say, I'm going to come watch you do the show. That really helps.

00:26:46 - 00:26:57 | Speaker 1:

Well, that was the thing. I feel so bad about this, Andrew. But, like, I met you and Veeves at the show. I had a really nice time talking to you. If I remember it, I even maybe gave you guys a lift back to Capitol Hill.

00:26:57 - 00:27:02 | Speaker 2:

Classic. That would really set the standard of our relationship for 20 years going, 10 years going forward.

00:27:03 - 00:27:57 | Speaker 1:

But, like, the weirdest thing is I feel like I then somehow kind of erased that whole event from my mind, which was really strange. Because then, you know, you guys, you became friends with Vanessa, and then we were sort of reintroduced at some point later. Or at least I remember when I said goodbye to you that night, I was like, oh, well, we should hang out again. And we were like, we all seemed, you know, agreeable to that idea. And then I feel like I didn't see you guys again for months and months. And then one time I was talking to you, and I feel like one of you, you review, said, well, yeah, you know, we came to the show that one time. And I was like, I think it was just because doing that show, it was its own kind of weird brain stress. I mean, you know, you hosted that hour. Also, David produced. This is very, very incestuous here at this point. We all, at some point, were creating that 7 to 10 content on Pyro. But it's like when you're hosting that show It's like you're just almost in another weird headspace To where, like I was probably chatting with you During the commercial breaks And I had no memory of any of it happening

00:27:57 - 00:28:03 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I remember Jesse Thorne was on that show By phone, or whatever that's called Really? Yeah Wow Yeah

00:28:03 - 00:28:06 | Speaker 1:

Future co-host of TBTL, Jesse Thorne

00:28:06 - 00:28:09 | Speaker 2:

Yes, exactly First David, then Jesse

00:28:09 - 00:28:09 | Speaker 1:

Yeah

00:28:09 - 00:28:09 | Speaker 2:

Uh-huh

00:28:09 - 00:28:27 | Speaker 1:

Alright, let's get into this song of the summer stuff We started off with 16 songs And by the way, really good pick-in, Davey And to Alicia as well and to some degree Penny the dog great job because I have been vibing to a lot of these songs and of course we have theme music don't forget

00:28:27 - 00:28:30 | Speaker 3:

lest we forget

00:28:30 - 00:28:34 | Speaker 1:

you really caught me by surprise with that one

00:28:34 - 00:28:40 | Speaker 3:

I feel like you have to be doing the like the Conan dance of like your hips are on

00:28:40 - 00:29:01 | Speaker 1:

a string I feel like I'm when I hear this song I am I am just wearing a dress shirt and nothing else. I have a hat kind of on, you know, like a fedora. And I'm sticking just one leg out in a very suggestive manner. That's just the image I want all of the listeners, including the children, to have of me when that song plays. Do not tell the listeners

00:29:01 - 00:29:04 | Speaker 2:

what's going on with my tassels right now, but let's just say they are in motion.

00:29:05 - 00:29:21 | Speaker 1:

I didn't know you could do that. That's really impressive, Andrew. And you said that you've been letting your muscles heal, but you look great. You look really great. Alright, so we started off with 16 songs, and we are now going to announce the 8 songs that moving on so i i guess just uh start off wherever you want to start off all right sounds good um so

00:29:21 - 00:29:30 | Speaker 3:

the first matchup um if you will remember one of the first songs is uh lord the song is solar power

00:29:30 - 00:29:34 | Speaker 1:

that's making that that's now i've noticed that thing showing up on tiktok yes it's definitely

00:29:34 - 00:29:59 | Speaker 3:

making the rounds on the tiki talk um and that went up against um this song by the glass animals called heat wave also very summer centric um so this was kind of two clash of the titans type of matchups um which is why i kind of matched them up i wanted it to be like a big you know an all-out brawl for them um and it was it was actually very close

00:30:00 - 00:30:15 | Speaker 2:

And it had overall the most votes out of any of the selections. And so the winner with 52% of the votes was Solar Power. Whoa.

00:30:28 - 00:30:32 | Speaker 3:

Nice. It feels like summer, man. It really does. Yeah, it really does. It really feels like summer.

00:30:32 - 00:30:55 | Speaker 4:

I probably said something along the lines of this when we first played this song. But, you know, I guess this really shows Lorde is not just some sort of one-hit wonder. He's a very talented person, you know? Because I could have seen Royals just being this kind of, like, quirky thing that, you know, was a big hit. And you're very young when you make it. And then we kind of never hear from you again. But this would very much appear to be a solid career for old Lorde. Yeah.

00:30:55 - 00:31:23 | Speaker 2:

Yes, definitely. And this is off of an album that is going to be coming out very soon, which I'm sure is going to be huge. I know she had another album after the one where Royals was out. It had that song Green Light on it, which I don't know if anyone remembers. It was a big one. She seems to come out with a huge hit in every album that she comes out with. So obviously a huge talent and moving on to the next round.

00:31:23 - 00:31:45 | Speaker 4:

I mean, this will obviously, if she manages to win song in the summer, that'll be probably the biggest feather in her cap. I would imagine. Isn't this true, by the way? And I'm sure this has come up multiple times on the show. I apologize for my faulty memory. But I was blown away to find out that that song, Royals, was actually written about George Brett, the Kansas City Royal. Wait, what? Do you guys know this? No, what? Yeah.

00:31:45 - 00:31:48 | Speaker 3:

How do we, George Brett looms so large in TVTL lore?

00:31:48 - 00:32:14 | Speaker 4:

This is from The Huffington Post Pop culture collided when Lord Met George Brett Not now, Banner adds Not today, Satan When Lord met George Brett The inspiration for her hit song, Royals Last year, Lord told a VH1 She wrote the song after seeing a photo of George Brett A player for the Kansas City Royals Signing baseballs in a 1976 issue Of National Geographic

00:32:14 - 00:32:19 | Speaker 2:

I really feel like I've been swindled because she doesn't say double tapered shit at any point.

00:32:19 - 00:32:25 | Speaker 3:

No, she does not. At any point. Well, unless... Wait, hold on. No, she doesn't. I just went through the lyrics in my head. No, not to my memory.

00:32:26 - 00:32:54 | Speaker 4:

This is a great photo, by the way, of Lorde and George Brett. They're looking exactly like you would expect them to look. George Brett is tanned. He looks like he just had a double tapered shit. Lorde looks very indie and slightly goth, if you will. Oh, my God. That's just... Because you would just think like Royals, you automatically think of the typical set or the typical you know context of just being like the royal family or being upper crust or whatever no it's literally about george brett or at least that was the inspiration

00:32:54 - 00:33:09 | Speaker 2:

for the song wow okay incredible dazzling beat wow thank you uh next matchup is um between uh lil nas x song is montero and parentheses call me by your name this song has really grown on me

00:33:09 - 00:33:26 | Speaker 4:

i gotta say like when what first came out and the video came out i think my take on it andrew was i totally get what he's doing here and i think it's awesome it exists it's not really for me per se but now again because of tiktok because this song is so so ubiquitous on tiktok i'm

00:33:26 - 00:33:47 | Speaker 2:

vibing with it i really like it uh and that went up against sort of a lower seed one um which was the knox this group from brooklyn oh yeah all about you which was featuring foster the people This one was kind of unsurprisingly A runaway With 60% of the vote Was Lil Nas X Montero

00:33:47 - 00:33:54 | Speaker 3:

You know how McGruff feels about that I was going to say it's the anti-McGruff song David hasn't even heard this

00:33:54 - 00:34:08 | Speaker 4:

This whole McGruff thing we're on about Today because today's The episode of today's show has only been out For like 5-10 minutes But we really got into some McGruff anti-drug cassette tape stuff.

00:34:08 - 00:34:21 | Speaker 3:

I do really wish we had talked about that before we had picked the songs of the summer because I would have made, I know it's outside of what we're supposed to do, but I would have made a pretty strong push for the either crack cocaine song or the inhalant song as a song of the summer.

00:34:21 - 00:34:23 | Speaker 4:

I think the one that sounds like Steely Dan.

00:34:23 - 00:34:30 | Speaker 3:

Oh, that's right. That was the first one that you heard. I can't remember which one. That one was just like kind of more of a generic themed don't do drugs song, I believe.

00:34:31 - 00:34:35 | Speaker 4:

Yeah, but it's so good. It definitely, do you vibe with Steely Dan at all, David?

00:34:35 - 00:34:35 | Speaker 3:

Oh, my God.

00:34:35 - 00:34:39 | Speaker 2:

I love Seelie Dan. Okay. I'm sorry to do this.

00:34:39 - 00:34:53 | Speaker 4:

I'm sorry. Really quickly. I just got to play this for you. Even though this is the second day in a row as people hear these that they've had to hear this McGruff song. I can't get over it. This is Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To.

00:34:53 - 00:35:00 | Unknown:

Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To. Get To.

00:35:00 - 00:35:42 | Speaker 2:

Open up your eyes. You've got to see. Alcohol fills your world with lies. Listen to me. Don't be a go. It's no good when you're drinking. Tell your friends no. It won't show you the way. Try using your head. Hey, you'd better start thinking. You might do the good. Being straight is okay. It seems so very nice Ah, but you'd best be looking twice Cause you will have to pay a price You're gonna lose

00:35:42 - 00:35:44 | Speaker 6:

Wouldn't it be great if this was Donald Fagin?

00:35:44 - 00:35:45 | Speaker 5:

Maybe it was

00:35:45 - 00:36:00 | Speaker 4:

What's so great is It sounds so reminiscent of Do It Again That Steely Dan song Which I'm pretty sure is If not directly about cocaine Is very pro-jug It's a nice little Flipping on its head there

00:36:00 - 00:36:07 | Speaker 6:

Yeah, alright Okay, sorry to get us off track But I just can't hear those McGruff songs enough Alright, so Montero is moving on

00:36:07 - 00:36:28 | Speaker 4:

So next up Matchup number three Is that John Batiste song Freedom Oh my gosh He's marching throughout The streets of New Orleans And then that's up against Ravina Who's a New York based artist And her song Tweety And which was If you guys remember Very like plant girl vibes The winner

00:36:28 - 00:36:29 | Speaker 6:

I'm going to trust you and Addy that that's a thing

00:36:29 - 00:36:37 | Speaker 4:

This was by far and away the most runaway With 76% Of the vote we've got Freedom

00:36:37 - 00:36:46 | Speaker 6:

Yes okay With peace and love to the other Competitor I love this song so much I would be very sad if it was not Advancing

00:36:46 - 00:36:53 | Speaker 3:

When I move my body just like this I don't know why but I feel like Freedom

00:36:53 - 00:37:08 | Speaker 6:

I feel like I could be friends with John Batiste. I feel like there are some celebrities that I think wouldn't like me. It also just doesn't seem there's anybody that John Batiste doesn't like. Maybe that's just part of it. But I feel like I've got to figure out a way to be friends with him.

00:37:09 - 00:37:30 | Speaker 5:

He just seems like such a genuine person. I mean, I think that John Batiste would like me. The question is, would I like him? That's the question I'm asking. Right, yeah. He's definitely not for everyone. I got to say, I did like that song Tweety quite a bit, and I had never heard of Raveena before. I think I did vote in this, by the way, and I voted for Tweety. I'm a little sad to see that go. No offense to John Batiste.

00:37:31 - 00:37:39 | Speaker 6:

Well, I'm going to let him know. No, when you're hanging out. That's why I'm going to undermine your friendship with John Batiste by talking about how you voted for this.

00:37:39 - 00:38:17 | Speaker 4:

He's a huge Tweety fan, or Raveena fan. Yeah, exactly. All right, what's next? So moving on to matchup number four is the Steady Holiday song, Sunny in the Making, the Japanese version specifically, which we all love. That was up against TBTL friendos, The Smittens, and their song, Wanna Go Dancing, So Far Away. I know. This was a tough matchup because this is obviously two contestants who we really were both – who we were all rooting for, both of them. and it showed because it was a very close one with 53% of the vote sunny in the making

00:38:17 - 00:38:36 | Speaker 1:

I love this song and I really like Steady Holiday

00:38:36 - 00:38:43 | Speaker 5:

but I am not emotionally prepared to say goodbye to the smittens in this i thought for sure they'd make it at least in the final round i'm

00:38:43 - 00:39:21 | Speaker 6:

legit bummed about that song is a banger the smitten song is a banger as well and of course created by tbtl fans or at least a fan one fan one time one young one young fan one young fan named david last name unpronounceable um so uh yeah that's a that's a bummer i'm just hoping i just i'm imagining david and the smittens it's like after a hard-fought football game when And everyone's just, like, backslap. Like, the two teams are all just, like, shaking hands and hanging out and forming a prayer circle. I just imagine the Smittens and Steady Holiday forming a prayer circle at midfield. For some reason, Russell Wilson's there.

00:39:22 - 00:39:27 | Speaker 4:

His house built up. He's just uncontrollably crying because of how good God is.

00:39:27 - 00:39:54 | Speaker 6:

Do we think that Russell Wilson has peaked? I mean, I want him to be our quarterback. But do we think? I was talking football with a kid this weekend. and uh and we were talking because this kid is a denver fan one young one young denver fan one time and i was wondering like what do you think how many more really productive russell wilson years like high high achieving russell wilson years three tops is what i see i i don't and i

00:39:54 - 00:40:29 | Speaker 4:

see him probably leaving within the next couple seasons just because he's so expensive and Thank you.

00:40:00 - 00:40:10 | Speaker 2:

And, like, you know, it seems like the recipe to a Super Bowl is having a quarterback on a rookie contract. That seems like that's setting yourself up.

00:40:10 - 00:40:16 | Speaker 3:

You've got to get a quarterback who's competent enough to make you competitive but who isn't using up all the resources from all the other positions, basically.

00:40:16 - 00:40:26 | Speaker 1:

So what do you think – you know, he probably soft lands somewhere outside of Seattle. But then what is his post-NFL career? Because he's always talked about as somebody who's got – Mega church pastor.

00:40:27 - 00:40:29 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, motivational speaker of some sort.

00:40:29 - 00:40:33 | Speaker 1:

Because he can't go broadcast route, right? Like, he's too – he's speaking – I mean, like, you know –

00:40:33 - 00:40:36 | Speaker 2:

If he does, I'm never watching the conversation.

00:40:36 - 00:40:43 | Speaker 1:

Exactly. Like, I love him, and I believe it's sincere, but he's – you know, he never says any kind of analysis. He's just like, you've got to go out there and play every play.

00:40:44 - 00:40:46 | Speaker 3:

Well, I mean, have you guys even considered pursuing excellence?

00:40:47 - 00:40:48 | Speaker 1:

Well, that's true. I have not.

00:40:48 - 00:40:56 | Speaker 3:

Because I had – was like, I don't know. Should I? And then Russell Wilson was like, well, you have to compete every day and pursue excellence. I was like, OK. It's a good point. I'm going to do that.

00:40:57 - 00:41:01 | Speaker 1:

But where's the separation? Isn't there preparation or where? I'm not sure.

00:41:01 - 00:41:39 | Speaker 3:

I've always been told to win sometimes. Not at all. Yeah. I would take any win on this show at all. I could really use a win here. Is that your Paul Giamatti fanfic you've been working on? That's my fake Paul Giamatti quote. Okay, that's our third thing. We've got to get Chris to say some ridiculous stuff on his show. We've got to get Rob and Stacy to start teaching fictional loader history. and we have got to get Paul Giamatti to say that in a movie. If I have to write a film that has that line in it and then go out and get Paul Giamatti cast in it, I'll do it.

00:41:39 - 00:41:45 | Speaker 1:

That's what we've got to figure out if he's on Cameo. Is he on Cameo? If he's on Cameo, boom. Yeah. Done deal.

00:41:45 - 00:41:51 | Speaker 3:

Paul Giamatti's father was Bart Giamatti, the commissioner of Major League Baseball. Right. Full of dazzling deep state.

00:41:51 - 00:42:24 | Speaker 2:

All right, sorry. Next up. Next up is matchup number five. This one was the song I love Doja Cat's Kiss Me More featuring SZA And that was up against Is this the I Feel Like Bleepin' Someone? Yes The song eventually gets into that? Yes, definitely And that was up against Gen Champion and Oyster Kids with their song Love Nobody Yeah The winner who won with 54% of the votes was Kiss Me More Wow

00:42:24 - 00:42:58 | Speaker 1:

this is obviously a jam but luke we're on video chat today too and i saw a look go across your face when david mentioned gen champion when you first brought gen champion to the show last week david or two weeks ago whenever that was i didn't realize who jen champion is did you know luke no

00:42:58 - 00:43:24 | Speaker 3:

i didn't put it together she used to play she used to be in a band called chris's weird in seattle and she played under the name jen ghetto she also worked at the redwood on capitol hill i'm not trying to put whoa her biz out there their biz out there but um we uh we used to love the redwood go watch the baseball games there and stuff and i would see jen champion and i would be slightly starstruck because uh she was also part of this band chris is weird that that was really a big

00:43:24 - 00:43:46 | Speaker 1:

in seattle they were big in seattle i don't know their music at all but i still will every now and then to stumble on just some fan of carissa's weird i feel like they had a very maybe a smallish but very loyal like intense following people who like that band love that band and i wasn't into it but you know she poured me plenty of drinks at the old redwood um and i remember always thinking

00:43:46 - 00:44:05 | Speaker 3:

like you're really famous but i didn't and again i'm sorry to be i i didn't i'm not trying to like get too weirdly stocky with someone's life who i don't really know but also is i believe uh married to or partnered with married to somebody that we know from kuow who used to work there and now

00:44:05 - 00:44:09 | Speaker 1:

works in digital media a four yeah a former colleague of ours and friend of ours nix's

00:44:09 - 00:44:16 | Speaker 3:

niece who's literally and also coincidentally i hope everyone's sitting down because i'm about to rock your world and I think it's okay for me

00:44:16 - 00:44:31 | Speaker 1:

to say this because they've since moved but also turns out that Jen and her wife were neighbors of a good friend of mine who lives in LA and that is Ben Harrison of the Greatest Generation podcast like he's like oh yeah

00:44:31 - 00:44:38 | Speaker 3:

we have to do that that Jen Champion song is now going to be it's the new song of the summer I know I was

00:44:38 - 00:44:41 | Speaker 1:

like wow based on all those connections connections there so I guess we can just cut it off there

00:44:41 - 00:44:44 | Speaker 3:

also a big deal for Doja Cat though things are finally

00:44:44 - 00:44:49 | Speaker 1:

coming together for her exactly yes okay so doja cat is moving on the listeners are probably

00:44:49 - 00:45:00 | Speaker 3:

relieved because if i was going to keep every time the gen champion song came up finding some new weird connection there was one time where she was you just next it was a labyrinth

00:45:00 - 00:45:09 | Speaker 1:

in my head of all the connections that you guys were making with them. So I'm very confused as to who this Gen Champion, Gen Ghetto, Chris is weird, whatever even was.

00:45:09 - 00:45:18 | Speaker 2:

You come over next time to do this, David, and it's just like strings tied up in this room. It's like very conspiracy theory of just all the connections that we have to Gen Champion. Carcosa.

00:45:18 - 00:45:20 | Speaker 3:

Yes, exactly.

00:45:20 - 00:45:22 | Speaker 2:

Alright, okay, what's next?

00:45:23 - 00:45:53 | Speaker 1:

Next up is matchup number six. This is the song Mango by Kamau featuring Adeline sort of a groove song that's been on TikTok quite a bit and then the smash hit by maybe the most popular band of all time based on YouTube views BTS the song was Butter oh right and this was a very very close one with 51% is Mango

00:45:53 - 00:46:08 | Speaker 4:

I don't want nothing but you is this thundercat did we establish that that's thundercat on the bass or just sounds like it

00:46:08 - 00:46:29 | Speaker 1:

oh i don't know but it does sound a lot like a thundercat song and um there's another thundercat song that's big on tiktok so that would make sense why some of those types of tiktoks merge together with those uh but i was very surprised i mean shocked um it was battle of the foods mango versus butter well um i mean mango is heart healthy probably better for you that's what it is

00:46:29 - 00:46:46 | Speaker 3:

it's more heart smart yeah it's got more fiber yeah but like i i like both these songs i actually liked butter a little bit better um i was pretty unfamiliar with bts but i feel like we have a lot of i feel like we have a lot of we have bts stands and i have to be very careful about this because

00:46:46 - 00:47:19 | Speaker 2:

i've really alienated a lot of listeners this week already and we're going into the summer games This is technically the last show that we're doing before the summer games, which are going to be great, by the way. I'm not just saying that to keep the downloads going. These were some of the most fun games that we've played. There's like personality quizzes in there. So if you're listening to this right now and you like TBTL, I promise you're going to like the next two weeks of brand new shows. But that being said, I don't really totally understand. Well, first of all, every time I almost say, is it, what's the name of them? BTS?

00:47:19 - 00:47:20 | Speaker 1:

BTS, yeah.

00:47:20 - 00:47:33 | Speaker 2:

I almost always want to say BTK, which was actually the bind, torture, and kill serial killer from the Midwest. Oh, wow. I think his name was Dennis Rader. So every time I see the name BTS, I think BTK, which can't help.

00:47:33 - 00:47:35 | Speaker 3:

That's not a great connotation for you.

00:47:35 - 00:47:48 | Speaker 2:

No, but like – I mean just there's – I'm trying to just gently say that that song Butter lyrically is a little silly to me without alienating our BTS stance.

00:47:48 - 00:47:54 | Speaker 1:

It feels like you're watching a Disney Channel movie about the greatest boy band of all time, and this is their song, basically.

00:47:54 - 00:48:54 | Speaker 2:

Well put. Would you like to be the new host of TBTL? Yes, I've been waiting for this opportunity for you. That is so much better put. I mean, it just – because I had heard – I mean, there's so much hype around BTS, and they're so internationally popular. And, like, the worst thing you can do right now is say something that's read as critical of BTS, like on Twitter or something. They will come for you, right? Yes. They will come to your house. They criticize butter, butter, butter. But like when I finally watched the video, I mean, the song is a bit catchy, but I was like, yeah, it seems like a parody of a boy band. And I love that people enjoy it and that it's bringing joy to people's lives. And everyone should enjoy BTS if they enjoy them. But I just was kind of struck by like, wow, I can't believe this is still working in 2021. These are like sort of very made up, very like, you know, television ready young men of a certain age singing a song that sounds like an algorithm wrote it. Like, you know, it just I was it was I don't know what I was expecting, but it was just interesting to me that it's still working in 2020.

00:48:54 - 00:48:56 | Speaker 1:

I voted for I guess it's not working enough.

00:48:57 - 00:49:00 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was pretty close, though. Right. Was that a closer?

00:49:00 - 00:49:06 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was 51 percent to 48 percent. It actually was only separated by 12 votes.

00:49:07 - 00:49:10 | Speaker 2:

All right, so we have, what is it, two more matchups?

00:49:10 - 00:49:42 | Speaker 1:

Yep, that's right, just two more. Sweet. Okay, what's the next one? The next one is matchup number seven. This one was a Waxahachie song. Could have been any song from the St. Cloud record, but it ended up being Lilacs, which I think everyone dug. And then that was up against Chemical Brothers, who I found out was a longstanding band, which I did not know. And their song was The Darkness That You Fear Which just sounds like a summer song It almost sounds too summer Absolutely

00:49:42 - 00:49:45 | Speaker 2:

Everybody come over Hang out on the stoop

00:49:45 - 00:49:56 | Speaker 1:

And we're going to play The Darkness That You Fear And so the results of this one were actually kind of a runaway as well With 66% of the votes It was Waxahachie Lilacs

00:50:00 - 00:50:48 | Speaker 3:

I have this experience with this album where, depending on, like, the day, I have a different favorite song off the album, you know? So, like, I'll be listening, I'll be like, oh, yeah, this is the song I really love. And then a different day, I'll have that response to a different track. But I know we've talked this album to death But it really is I think one of the best records To come out in a long time And it's also a record That you can just put on and play the whole thing Which I feel like is, I don't know if it's my attention span Or just how we consume music Now that that's rare I can't think of very many other albums That are you know recently put out Where I'll just play the whole thing

00:50:48 - 00:51:07 | Speaker 2:

Yeah it'd be a great one to get on vinyl for sure Absolutely that's actually a really good point Vives and I, this has been kind of our go-to Card playing album I feel like there's always one album every summer that we just kind of like, you don't have to think about it too much. It's like, yeah, yeah, put that, you know, put that St. Cloud on. And Genevieve loves it. She's fallen head over heels for this.

00:51:08 - 00:51:19 | Speaker 3:

Yeah. Waxahachie is going to be here in Portland. It is already sold out. Wow. So if any of the listeners have extra tickets, you know, someone will take you, Luke.

00:51:19 - 00:51:20 | Speaker 2:

Be careful. Oh, yeah.

00:51:20 - 00:51:32 | Speaker 3:

You know what? That's dangerous. That's like it's like the ring. Asking the listeners to do things for us It's very powerful But it also destroys you That's for Professor Robin

00:51:32 - 00:51:35 | Speaker 2:

That's worth at least an A- That was good

00:51:35 - 00:51:37 | Speaker 3:

Is that Ian Holmes?

00:51:37 - 00:51:41 | Speaker 4:

It's Ian McKellen But it's two Ian Holmes

00:51:41 - 00:51:54 | Speaker 3:

This is a real embarrassment of Ians Is that a show title? Embarrassment of Ians? Okay so here we are At the final matchup What were the songs?

00:51:54 - 00:52:20 | Speaker 4:

So it was matchup number 8 This one was a difficult one for me It was Japanese Breakfast That song Be Sweet Which is obviously great And then it was that Remy Wolf song Liz Man These are two good ones They were And this one was not as close as I would have hoped But I still do love the outcome With 61% of the vote It was Japanese Breakfast Be Sweet

00:52:20 - 00:53:01 | Speaker 2:

Not only am I shocked by the outcome on this Not that I don't love this song I do love the song But I thought the Remy Wolf song just had a little I don't know I always thought of the TBTL song of the summer As being a You know being just always Just a click off From what the mainstream is And so I just thought that that Remy Wolfe, maybe it was just me, but Remy Wolfe really kind of won my heart. So not only am I surprised that Remy Wolfe lost, but that it was kind of a blowout. Yeah, it was.

00:53:01 - 00:53:13 | Speaker 3:

I wonder if it's also just because I've been hyping Michelle Zahner so much on the show. Oh, true. Because, like, she was on Livewire, and that book she wrote, Crying in H Mart, is really good. I think it's already been optioned for a film. Oh, nice.

00:53:13 - 00:53:24 | Speaker 4:

By the way, I saw on an Instagram post of Addie, she had that song. Adelaide had that song or that book. book in some photo of hers, and I was like, oh, I wonder if you got that from your dad.

00:53:25 - 00:53:34 | Speaker 3:

You know, I think that she might have bought that on her, or maybe I gave it to her. Who can remember? I'm starting to sign, when I give these books away now, I'm starting to sign them for people. Oh, wow. Even though I didn't write them.

00:53:34 - 00:53:37 | Speaker 2:

Nobody asked you, and nobody asked you. No, no one's asked me to.

00:53:39 - 00:54:26 | Speaker 3:

It's just like my weird thing that I'm starting to do. You signed the cover. I read most of this. I read an interview. How dare you, David? I didn't like the end. Did you read that skywriting over the Willamette? I just actually, when we're done here, in just a few minutes, I am actually going to switch over to doing a Livewire interview with a writer named Daisy Hernandez, who has a really fascinating book called The Kissing Bug Disease about this very kind of medically mysterious. It's not medically mysterious. It's not particularly well-researched here in the U.S., but this parasite you can get from something called a kissing bug and it's a fascinating memoir and science book. And I read all of it. Well, I read half of it and I listened to half of it. What did we decide on that? Does that count?

00:54:26 - 00:54:29 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, that counts. If you listen to a book, I wish.

00:54:29 - 00:54:31 | Speaker 4:

Yeah, as long as you're like attentively listening to it.

00:54:31 - 00:54:59 | Speaker 2:

Actively listening. I went strong a while back saying that like, hey, if you listen to a book, say you listen to a book. If you read a book, say you read a book. And a lot of people said that's pretty ableist language because there's all kinds of people. And like I got a lot of feedback on it. I never brought it up on the show. It was one of those things where when I think about this all the time, because when I first got that feedback and nobody was like rude about it, it was all very nice people saying, hey, Andrew, just so you know, like it's kind of ableist. And I like I did this. I did just argumentative acrobatics in my head. I didn't.

00:55:00 - 00:55:21 | Speaker 1:

with anybody online about it but it's one of those things where i just rejected i'm like well words have meanings and like if there's a stigma around it like just change the stigma don't change the meaning of the words read versus listen but it's like one of those things where the more i thought about it and it took me like several days i'm like shit i'm just wrong on this like could a blind person not be well read of course a blind person well right but here's my question

00:55:21 - 00:55:44 | Speaker 2:

and like lord knows there's no re like there's no reason to relitigate this but a person who is blind would have you know 30 years ago read things in braille right right that's another example i guess so there is a there's a form of reading that is available to people who are visually impaired in some way that isn't listening to a book on tape i don't have all of the art like

00:55:44 - 00:56:37 | Speaker 1:

a lot of people wrote in again very kindly and independent and just like saying hey i heard you say that just so you know this is a conversation that's going on in the culture and like here's a bunch of reasons why and i got to say the reasons were really compelling i can't remember if the well-read version that i just threw out there is something that i came up with or if that was one that was sent to me but a bunch of other people oh well you know there's a lot of analogies like if you have a friend who uses a wheelchair you would still say do you want to go for a walk you know what i mean there's a lot of language that we just we use in that way and sure to be kind of pedantic and say well which i was being i'm not saying you are luke but i went on this little weird petty rant about like if and my whole thing by the way was based on an a colleague of mine from a long long long time ago who was bragging about how many books he had read in the summer but then it was clear that he was talking about listening to them on his commute and i just had kind of a bug up my ass about that but also like why are you bragging about how many books

00:56:37 - 00:57:33 | Speaker 2:

you're reading too it's just like not a great look i will tell you that uh boy traffic is back baby in portland yeah like seriously like so bad it is noticeable and so i have started to uh make use of that time by like if there's a book that i'm working on for livewire i'll kind of jump between reading it uh you know in the looking at the words on the page kind of style of reading and then listening to it in the car and it's actually great it made it's made me much less annoyed at traffic because i'm like well you've got three more chapters done yeah yeah exactly i like to think that people feel the same way about tbtl hey you know maybe that'll help drive some numbers for us the fact that you know in a lot of places sort of quote-unquote normal life is starting again and commutes are back and this could be a real boon time for you know i've been talking a lot on the show about how there's sort of a lot of demand and not enough supply just about a lot of things uh and um the tbgl might be the only thing where there's more supply than

00:57:33 - 00:57:39 | Speaker 1:

demand or podcasts in general yes i saw somebody on twitter said uh i don't know who needs to hear

00:57:39 - 00:58:43 | Speaker 2:

this i mean i don't know how they phrased it but they said basically uh your you know your chatty podcast needs an editor or your podcast where you chat with your friend needs an edit they weren't saying it to me they were just saying generally and of course it's very like near and dear to my heart what we do here but i also just felt like wtf w wtf could that be a show title i was like wtf daniel kibblesmith i think was the uh the person who tweeted it i was like it doesn't need an editor because it's a different kind of show it's not the daily it's not this american life and i mean of course i'm just overly defensive about tbtl but it was to me it was like i can't Think of a good analogy but it's like telling people who do These kinds of rambly shows they need to ramble less Is like no that's what the show Is right and there are other shows that Have editors and are much tighter And and that's a great and I Listen to a lot of those shows and those shows are awesome But that's I don't know it's like saying hey I don't need to hear this but your cheese pizza It needs less cheese right it's Like no that's what we do we sell cheese Pizza the cheese is us talking About nothing for hours a day here's

00:58:43 - 00:59:09 | Speaker 1:

The deal though and you know me I'm not somebody Who like pats us on the back a lot but like there are shows out there who do this style of podcasting but probably aren't as good there are shows where co-hosts can't remember anybody's name they dedicate tons of time to dream talk I mean people just write in about something called blur there's a lot of shit out there and so that tweeter was probably referring to those types

00:59:09 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 2:

of shows well okay you know I mean I know you're sort of half joking and But I will say that the weird thing about the show, about TBTL, is as much as we like to kind of make fun of ourselves and talk about the show kind of in a critical way, we are like legit radio professionals who actually, you know, we're doing this as kind of a radio job for a long time. And people would be – I think the average person would be surprised at actually how much thought goes into it because it is totally off the cuff. But it also is something that we're concentrating on when we're doing it and thinking pretty hard about like, hey, what is the most interesting way for us to do this in our own weird, demented way? And so maybe he was referring to – it's not as easy as people would think to flip the microphone on and just kind of start talking. And so maybe there are some shows like this.

01:00:00 - 01:00:15 | Speaker 3:

that need an editor, just not this show. This show is perfect. But if you do, I can be that editor. Is this what we're going out with? I don't know. It just seemed like a good time to bring this back. Can you quickly run through the eight songs that are still happening?

01:00:15 - 01:00:23 | Speaker 1:

Yes. So our new bracket, the first competitors, or what are we calling it? Match-ups. I know.

01:00:23 - 01:00:27 | Speaker 3:

Every time we talk about this, I struggle with what we're calling the songs.

01:00:27 - 01:00:57 | Speaker 1:

contestants um entrants well the first matchup at least is uh solar power by lord versus lil nas x montero that's gonna be a big one a heavy hitter yeah um those were two of the songs that got the most votes uh like submissions uh initially okay um and then we've got freedom by john batiste against sunny in the making by steady holiday so that's a big matchup for matchup

01:00:57 - 01:01:04 | Speaker 2:

number two uh are you guys by the way i know we're trying to go faster but do you guys have opinions on these are we trying to not give our opinions because we don't want to be we don't

01:01:04 - 01:01:36 | Speaker 1:

influence the vote it's hard because i my opinion is based on how um much how many submissions i got for oh yeah so i'm not i'm not trying to put my finger on the on the pulse but um i will say the the lord and the little nas x one that is a huge matchup just because both of those songs I think got the most submissions. Freedom got also one of the most submissions. And then Sunny in the Making, it seems like Steady Holiday is a big hit with the listeners.

01:01:36 - 01:01:47 | Speaker 3:

I don't want to pressure the listeners, but the very future of me becoming best friends with John Batiste rests on that song going pretty far in this competition. So just do what you will with that information.

01:01:48 - 01:02:16 | Speaker 1:

The third matchup is Kiss Me More, Doja Cat versus Mango by Kamau. and then the final matchup is Lilacs by Waxahachie versus Japanese Breakfast, Be Sweet. So that's also a difficult one. I mean, it gets to a point where once you narrow down the bracket, every single matchup is just going to be... It's all one seeds. It's all that's left. Yeah, very hard.

01:02:17 - 01:02:36 | Speaker 3:

So we're going to now, because we're doing the summer games for the next couple of weeks, we're going to really give folks some time to consider these songs. I'm assuming that at some point, Andrew, tbtl.net will have the new bracket up or the kind of the bracket that reflects what we just learned.

01:02:36 - 01:03:03 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, probably by the time you're hearing this or I'm trying to think the order of things. Once the show posts, I will immediately go to the website or maybe give it an hour to avoid spoilers and and put the new polls up and show you what the new bracket is. But just go to tbtl.net, and there's various links on the main site to get there. And also, Christina made a special link for us. If you just go to tbtl.net slash songofthesummer, that'll get you there. That's your voting page. How clean and easy is that?

01:03:04 - 01:03:19 | Speaker 3:

Super simple. So thanks to Kiki Lolo for helping us out with this as well. And, David, thanks to you for all the work that you're putting in on this and tracking things. So I guess that is pretty much it. Oh, can I suggest an outro song?

01:03:19 - 01:03:21 | Speaker 1:

I don't know if we already had a song to go out with.

01:03:22 - 01:03:25 | Speaker 3:

Any song off the McGruff tape is fine. Yeah, exactly.

01:03:26 - 01:03:49 | Speaker 1:

It's not, although, man, I should, we could also do a Steely Dan song. But I keep meaning to send in this for Music for Your Weekend because it's one of my favorite songs. And it's specifically a really great song for it being Friday, Fri-yay. And I don't know if we're still playing Kanye West music or if that is a faux pas now.

01:03:49 - 01:03:55 | Speaker 2:

I don't think I listen to Kanye. Sometimes if there's any language in here, I'll have to flip it and reverse it.

01:03:55 - 01:04:24 | Speaker 1:

But aside from that, you know, it might have some language. The song is Good Friday. It's off of one of one of his mixtape from like 10 years ago now. But this every time this comes on, especially if it's a Friday, it just gets me nice. So hyped. The sample is this fantastic piano. I don't know exactly where it's from. But, yeah, I've always I've wanted to hear this at the end of the show. I used to play it on Fridays on the radio show when we would go out of segments, the instrumental of it.

01:04:25 - 01:04:31 | Speaker 3:

By the way, I think that on that night show that you were producing, I think that big boy song that you would use.

01:04:31 - 01:04:32 | Speaker 1:

Such a good pick.

01:04:32 - 01:04:33 | Speaker 3:

The best.

01:04:33 - 01:04:39 | Speaker 1:

That was a Song of the Summer contestant. That's how I heard that song was years ago. It was one of the Song of the Summer shows.

01:04:39 - 01:04:58 | Speaker 3:

And for everyone who's trying to figure out how to get your music for your weekend submission through, just be my brother and come over to the apartment and then say, can we play this song? Same way you become host. It's very simple. It's all right there. Thanks for listening, everyone. Thanks for being part of TBTL. Have a great weekend. Please do check back in for the summer games. They're going to be really fun.

01:05:00 - 01:05:06 | Speaker 1:

We'll see you all very soon with more of this imaginary radio. Until then, please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

01:05:06 - 01:05:18 | Speaker 2:

You think I'm high? I'm in thinker mode. I slow, I let the sky hold the thoughts. The streets are like the high road that I go across. I mean, my whole team about to smash the streets.

01:05:18 - 01:05:25 | Unknown:

The Philippines reminds them that it's fashion week. And the weather wasn't badly hot. Did I mention that sweater was a jammy sky?

01:05:25 - 01:05:42 | Speaker 3:

Did I mention good music, yeah, forever we hot? Motherfucker, are you ready and now? I know the city getting ready for me. I know the city getting ready for me. Are you ready for me?

01:05:42 - 01:05:45 | Unknown:

I know the city getting ready for me.

01:05:45 - 01:05:52 | Speaker 1:

I know the city getting ready for me. Power out.

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