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That's your spot. Do not move from it, okay? But also don't be rigid, okay? Try to be natural. And speak to me, you know, conversational every day, like a friend. But there's fear here. There's emotion. You're searching for a hero, you know. Will no one save you? But don't hit it too hard. Just throw it away. But with feeling, okay? All right. Oh, there's cue cards if you need them. But don't look at them. Look at me, okay? But, you know, they're there. So, roll sound. Rolling. Camera. Spitting. And action. T-B-T-L. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is.

It's Friday, Friday. Gonna get down on Friday. everybody's looking forward to the weekend what is this guy trying to do is

this supposed to be with bozos thinking or saying what guy is bozo bozo did it bozo did what bozo did the dog I just wanted to call and tell you guys that

while teaching a zoom class today I grabbed one of the dead bats I was using as a specimen example and put it on my desk on top of my TPTL sound machine which proceeded to play Don't Miss the Sausage Fest about 50 times in a row. I tried to talk really loudly over it, but there's no way that a bunch of middle schoolers missed something saying the word sausage. Anyway, that's my life now.

Put my headphones on, and here we go. I'm so excited. All right. Hello. Good morning and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of TBTL, a show that just might be too beautiful to live. It's electric and there's no turning back. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. You know, you got to eat that microphone. Coming to you from the Nest Broadcast Center high in the sky above Portland, Oregon, where we have big plans today. Going out to visit my sister Liz A bunch of my family is gathering Addie is here She stayed here last night And we're doing a big old Burbank family jamboree Out in beautiful Willard, Washington Population 45 It's going to swell to like 60 people today And you look out the window It's raining Didn't know you like to get wet though Like, I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say this is the first measurable rain we've had in Portland in two months, three months, and probably won't have it again for another month. And it's happening today, but that's all right. We're going to make the best of it, and we're going to make the best of this, episode 3483 in a collector's series.

Let the fun begin.

Yesterday, we were talking about the announcement that Jeopardy is close to apparently finalizing a deal with its new permanent host. And I had some misgivings about the process because this guy who is apparently going to be the new host was also the executive producer and was in charge of, to some degree, the hiring process. Well, a story in the ringer now says things might be more complicated than we were thinking. Extortion, bribery, junkyard cats, this is nasty, heavy stuff. I don't know how many junkyard cats are involved, but there is, the allegation may be playing sort of strongly, but it would seem, according to this reporting, that this dude, Mike Richards, who was playing like he only, he was just, at the last minute, thrown into the fill-in hosting role because somebody, some other, like, celebrity, had to cancel at the last minute. That story is definitely not true.

Look it, it's plain and simple. It's bulls**t.

So we will, well, we'll continue with the intrigue that is the Jeopardy! host position coming up. Also, not because the listeners asked for it or because I'm even interested in the story anymore, but gall darn it, I'm going to talk about this menu hack story. Welcome to Food News Today. Just because I've been promoting it for three days. if we don't get to it today then it's it's a lost cause but the thing is I've read this article it's fairly long and I made a lot of notes I have things underlined I have I mean I put a lot of work into prepping this story I wrote down too many things in the margin at some point I drew an eyeball I did a lot of work on this and I'll be frustrated if we don't get to it so we'll try to do that plus Thank you.

some music for your weekend because it's a fryer and this guy longest running cobro of the show may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships he's got chutzpah and broad-based knowledge a bit of the showman in him our champion austin that's right our champion andrew is joining us right now from the roosevelt neighborhood of seattle washington good morning my friend

good morning luke i know it's raining veves and i are supposed to go on a little adventure too this weekend we're not sleeping outside we're not we're not camping the way you are but i think i mentioned to you a while back that we're uh headed to this little town called packwood yeah and i

just assumed that you were camping because first of all i don't know if i've heard of packwood washington and it just sounds like to me like uh it sounds like the kind of they used to have a

couple ghosts living there as well yeah there were two of them nobody's seen them in a while

What happened? And also, why did the investigation grow cold on that?

All I remember is they turned blue and everybody fled. That's all I know.

But, no, when I heard that you and Veeves were going to somewhere called Packwood, I even wrote it in the notes. It says, Luke and Andrew both have big camping adventures in front of them this weekend. And then I find out you're not even camping. What are you doing?

Just going to Packwood. We are going to go on some day hikes, supposedly, tomorrow. I don't think it's supposed to rain tomorrow, but I might just have a case of the spostas. So this little town is like, would you say it's in the, I like to say it's in the shadow of Mount Rainier. I mean, that's just because it's a fun way of saying it. I don't know how far south it is, but if you look at a map, it's like directly south of Mount Rainier. And Genevieve, I think, passed through there on a different hiking adventure and thought it was an incredibly cute town with, like, a cute hotel and, like, a little restaurant and a little bar and also supposed to be, again, supposed to be a really, really beautiful place for some day hikes. So we're just going to go out there. We'll probably get there early evening tonight. We're both exhausted. I'm coming in rough today, Luke. Yeah, what's going on? This week is – I do not – I am not somebody who's staying out at the bars late at night.

Were you out carousing last night again?

Yes, and it happened two nights ago as well for just another random reason.

Far be it for me to judge. But, yeah, I figure you got one of those in you a week maybe, but back to backers.

And both of them were just like kind of impromptu, my gosh, where does the time go kind of things. But, you know what, it turns out some real TBTL friendos are in town. You know our boy Bobby in from the East Coast, from like the Albany, Boston area. And I know that's not the same area. It's complicated. Also, Hillary. The larger Balbany region. Yes, exactly. Remember, Hillary from Austin is in town. And Will, who's here in the Seattle area, our buddy Will, the pilot. Yeah, they were all getting together. And I was telling, but he was texting me earlier in the week. He's like, do you think that maybe we can get together? I'm like, I'd love to. I know I'm going to be working on stuff pretty late on Thursday. It's my newsletter night, whatever. About midday yesterday, I saw my to-do list stacking up, and I'm like, I got to pull the plug on this. I don't want to leave you hanging. I'm not going to be able to meet up with you tonight. I was still working on the newsletter at like 930. I mean, that's not woe is me. It's just like I put things off, and I made the newsletter more complicated than it needed to be. And around 930, I get a text from them saying, okay, but just so you know, we're at Teddy's. And I'm like, ah, that's like three blocks from me. And I hadn't seen these folks in forever. So I'm like, all right.

My good boy deserves a little reward for putting the newsletter to bed on a Thursday night, having that all done, having your ducks in a row.

But my ducks weren't really in a row. I still had some other, like, whether TBTL stuff to do that I usually have to do on Thursday nights to get them into people's hands on Friday. It's kind of my deadline day. I let some of those go until the morning, which is why I asked for a later dial-up. I haven't packed anything yet. We're going to Packwood. The whole point of going to Packwood is you've got to pack. You show up. It's not called Unpackwood. Exactly. Like, you show up. Like, they know. They can tell. They're experts. There's actually a checkpoint. Exactly. So, anyway, I'm a little bit. So, we end up staying out. All I know is. So, I didn't even get there until 930. And then, you know, eventually it just becomes me and Bobby at the bar. And then, eventually, Genevieve shows up. She shows up after midnight, my boy. She shows up after midnight. We are in our 40s. Now, let me guess, was there a Camaro Kev component? No. No. Genevieve had just been on the phone with her mom for a really long time. Oh, I see. So she was at home. So she was just at home, and I was leaving, and I whispered to her while she was on the phone. I said, going to Teddy's. And then I said, Will is there, too. And I put my arms out like an airplane and went, so that she would know exactly what I was talking about.

And you got some food that she doesn't like, and you put it on a fork, and you said, the airplane's coming into the hangar. And she's like, I'm trying to talk to my mom in Atlanta. Leave me alone. Exactly.

Unfortunately, did not have any miming for Hillary and Bobby. But anyway, Genevieve got the message. But then when it got to be like 1130, I'm like, oh, well, Genevieve isn't coming. We'll like settle up here and I'll take off. And then right as I was about to leave, Genevieve comes in hot at like 1230 at night. So we stuck around. I did not go to bed until well after two last night. I know I'm rough. You can hear it in my voice. I'm not. I don't know, man. We'll just have to see how this goes today.

I had what was – there was the possibility of me having a sort of similar event last night, but for once in my life, I headed it off. I really can't – I know that it's just exhausting to the listeners when I get on these little sort of like projects for about five days and I won't shut up about it. but I will tell you this whole thing I've been doing about trying to exercise in the morning for this week has been useful because it has very much moderated my nighttime behavior. Oh, yeah. And you look forward to it, too, right? No? I look forward to being done with it. Oh, okay. So this morning I just went on a jog because, to be honest, my legs were getting pretty sore by day four of basketball times, and I kind of couldn't figure it out because there's no one else. I'm not playing against anyone. i'm not really playing basketball i'm just shooting around which seems like a pretty passive activity but because of my weird drill that i'm doing i'm i'm probably shooting a hundred layups and then i realized oh the reason my leg just rose i still jumping yeah like i'm i'm still doing the activity there's just nobody trying to block the ball so anyway i just went on a little jog this morning and what i was excited about was being done with the jog and that kind of endorphin release so i do look forward to it in a way but um yeah addy is here and um because we're going to be heading out for this family get together and she rolled up last night and we were having a little dinner and just kind of hanging out and she had noticed that there's this very cute bar around the corner from my place it used to be called the Elvis room here in Portland and they changed the name to a good luck charm and I guess while she was waiting for me to come down and let her into the apartment building she had sort of she had seen the bar and then she was googling some info on it and had found out that it has a really cute downstairs area etc so she was like so we're sitting there having a like a glass of wine and a little dinner and it's like nine and she's like hey do you want to go to that bar and i was like i would first i was like i just it's nine like i can't be a part of that kind of shenanigans but then i was like you know my daughter's in town it doesn't happen all the time yeah let's go so we went over there and it was great we had one drink and i was of course the whole time worried people thought we were on a date the bartender said what are you up to tonight and i said just a family hangout just hanging out just family hangout yeah like i you know no one cares but me but it's just like i'm very very concerned that people will misinterpret the situation um you know and we're masked because we're doing that i mean it's not the official rule but you know we're trying to be responsible people again so it's like at further obscures what's going on and you

have those daddy daughter rings that look like wedding bands the whole thing is yeah oh yeah

classic we picked those up at um at father daughter daddy's i was trying to do a mother boy i was trying to transition that into a mother boy real quick but um uh yeah so but we were we were having uh you know a drink and we were having a really lovely time and i was like i could feel somewhere in the back of my mind thinking you know what we could do we could saunter down to my father's place it'd be ironic if i took my daughter to a place called my father's place where her father likes to go yeah it might be too much but um i was like i could just you know that little voice uh when you get like drink one and a half in you that starts to think hey this is nice it'd be nicer if it kept going yeah and uh and but i looked at her and then i think she said all right we're done here and i was like so glad that she like broke the spell yeah yeah we headed back and and i was of course quite happy for it this morning um but i could it was like i was teetering on the precipice of where you ended up i think well here's here's how i'm looking at this

like i am i am just exhausted so i got like i don't know five hours of not very good sleep i'm really glad by the way i'm not complaining i'm really glad i made the decision it would have been easy to um or or if the gang was at a bar just slightly further away right like i probably would not have you know gotten on a bus or something to go there but it's like right around the corner so i was like all right come on i haven't seen these guys in forever so and i'm glad i am glad i did i i am in rough shape right now so i think what the plan is like let's get to packwood tonight i'm just saying this as if you're going with me but i'm just sort of thinking this through like let's go get there a little bit early have a respectable dinner not go hog wild or anything go to bed early like kind of ride this tiredness to an early evening and then wake up at a decent hour tomorrow and I think we're going on like a 10 mile hike or something. Andrew must have come early. Yes. To Packwood. That's a good plan. Yeah, so I almost think that, like, I won't call them the mistakes of last night, but, like, the trajectory that I am on. Never try to say that word while hungover. That is a bad hangover word, trajectory. But maybe I can make this all work in my favor by bedding down early tonight.

This is one of the saddest life hacks you've ever heard. But I actually have done that in my life, not intentionally. But I have known that if I have, let's say, something that I absolutely have to be fresh and ready to go, in other words, if there's an event happening, let's say, on a Friday, and I need to really be my best self, if it's Wednesday and I'm kind of feeling overly enthused and frisky, I will think to myself, well, if I go ham on Wednesday, then Thursday is going to be brutal. but I will have no trouble going to bed Thursday night at 9 o'clock sans alcohol. It's almost like sabotaging myself one day so that I will then be incapable of sabotaging myself on the day that's most critical. I mean, that is a messed up system. So I think you may have unintentionally done that to yourself because what will happen is you'll go to Packwood, you'll have a nice, yummy dinner, and then you'll go to sleep, like you said, at a respectable hour,

and then you'll feel great on Saturday for hiking. That's right. Yep, yep. But that's all I know about where we're going. Can you have thought of it all? I don't know much about the path or anything, and Genevieve says it's a 10-mile easy hike tomorrow, so I think I can handle that.

That sounds really fun. Yeah, we'll be, my sister and her husband, I think they live on, I think it's like 50 acres or something. It's a big old giant thing with a river running through it and all of that, and it's really fun. There's a swimming hole. That's the other thing that I'm, there's like a couple of swimming holes, which I want it to be.

I noticed you can't say swimming hole. You have to say swimming, I notice. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, there's an N and then an apostrophe. Yes, gotcha. That's it. You can go fishing in there, too. I've actually been in a holler, and it was quite something. I did this story about a squirrel cook-off. Oh, yeah. Back a long, long time ago, and it was in Arkansas. And I went squirrel hunting with this guy, which, you know, it's kind of interesting. I don't think I would sign on for that now because I'm so sensitive about that stuff. But we were walking around in what was a legit holler in Arkansas. And he was like, well, we're down in this holler. And I was like, I've only heard of this in songs.

Do you know what the definition is? I honestly don't know.

I think it just kind of means like a sort of valley, not even a huge valley, but just kind of a wooded area that's maybe there's some, you know, it's kind of there's a hill on one side and then another hill. And when you're kind of down in that lower area and there's brush and trees and you're squirrel hunting, you'd be down in a holler at that point.

Oh, interesting. And I'm not even joking. Is it spelled like holler, like I don't like to be hollered at? No.

I've always imagined it was, but I don't know. But yeah, I just remember this guy looking at me and going, saying something casually about this particular holler we were in and just being like, it's happening. I'm in a holler. Yes, yes. going on so anyway um yeah we'll be down in some hollers out there uh hiking around as well although it's not like they have a big piece of property but you don't hike it the way like you and genevieve will be hiking you kind of take a walk and you there's a big log that goes across the river and you can see where the beavers are doing their thing and but in the summer when it's really hot because that river it's the little white salmon is what the river's called it is so cold like so when it's 100 degrees it's like perfect because you actually are ready for the water to be that cold but again we've timed this impeccably so that it's like 75 today and i don't know what tomorrow's going to be but this is the only time it would be ideal were it to be like 100 degrees

which it's pretty much been this whole summer in portland i'm going to say something here because i'm wondering if this is one of those moments where listeners are getting frustrated at us is there a chance that the actual word is hollow but in the south they say it holler and that's how the folksy way of saying it is holler because i'm looking at all these definitions and a hollow is a low wooded area and so i think that and when you say it in arkansas yeah it's probably a holler

that's probably exactly what it is yeah because down in the hollow is i mean i've heard that too yeah and they probably just say holler in the way that um that uh anthony fauci with his deeply brooklyn pronunciation of things sometimes it's almost even like i'm like do we have a new variant called the delta oh really do i need to be worried about the delta as well because that sounds scary no that's just how anthony found she says delta that's true uh this uh delta virus i find that

very charming but it's probably also because i find him charming i find him charming as well

and um you know anybody whatever we don't need to i went off on politics and vaccines this week Already enough for the listeners But yeah Yeah, so I'll be down in the hollow, excuse me, I'll be down in the hollow out there in Washington this week. And then Addie and I are going camping on Saturday, but it's a little bit of a roll of the dice because we don't have a reservation. But we're going to this area that's rich with campsites. We're doing a little just me and her camp out on Saturday. And so we're leaving the family. The family camp out is kind of dispersing on Saturday because people have plans and things to do. and then we're going to go try to like roll up to a campsite and get in on the like day of stuff which i don't know i feel like every like i mean despite the pandemic and despite the the resurgence of the um delta virus i feel like everything is just there's a line for everything right now so i'm a little worried that there's going to be a crazy line for the campsite and they're going to be like oh all of the day of things are taken but we'll see there's apparently a bunch of campsites in the area so worst case scenario we'll just have to kind of float around

Why not just try to make a reservation? There's got to be some online form. Oh, I see. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand. I'm sorry. I misunderstood.

All of the reserved places are taken, and so you've just got to kind of like roll up and hope that, you know, they leave a certain number of spots for day-ups.

I'm getting anxious already thinking about that.

I mean, I figure, worst case scenario, we'll just go hiking down into the holler somewhere and just throw the tent up. Okay, yeah, okay. I got a plan. I'm a real outdoorsy kind of guy, Andrew. Yeah, sure. All right. We should take a quick break, and then when we come back, I do want to get into this whole Jeopardy situation because the plot thickens on that, and talk about menu engineering because I've committed a lot of my personal time to researching this topic, and I'll be damned if I'm going to waste that prep time and not get into it. So we'll do all that coming up in a moment here on TBTL.

Thank you, baby

Let's thank some donors of the day. Wonderful, generous people who are donating, and that's how we're able to do the show. Talking about Teresa Slusher of Tumwater, Washington. You may drive through Tumwater, Andrew. That's more, I guess, Olympia way. Olympia way. You'll probably hang a Louie somewhere around Tacoma. I noticed that in Pacwa you're going to be not far from a forest called

Tatush. Ooh, that sounds Star Wars-y.

Doesn't it? It's also the name of the restaurant at an offshoot of the Emerald Queen Casino. When you're driving on I-5 through Fife, when you get near the Poodle Dog Cafe, if you look over, you'll see a restaurant called Tatush. And I've always noted the name because it sounds very Star Wars-y. Yeah, it really does. It does Anyway, Teresa's down in Tumwater Thank you, Teresa Corin Copps is in Seattle Corin, thank you very much for supporting our little program

I guarantee you I will be passing through Seattle Really? To get there, to get to Packwood, yeah

Interesting, so that's the route you're going to take

It's hard for me to imagine I mean, there might be a route where I don't go through Seattle But it'll just be much easier

I actually was driving from, well, Mount Vernon, because I went to that party at my buddy's house, Becca and I did, but then from driving from like Linwood, where our hotel was, to Portland the next day, Waze had me going via every side road, and not just side road, but like side highway, it was like going through Puyallup, and literally driving, like looking at Mount Rainier to the left like it was I was almost in Packwood and I kept being like okay I guess you know what you're doing ways but that's because I five was so jacked up so you never know you may I mean it may have you go through like you know central Washington eastern Washington you never know just trust the ways is what I would go down through Portland back up yeah sure I got a couple things I need you to bring down actually from Seattle so that would help me out Thank you. You know who's helping us out? Lisa Claus. Klaus? Claus.

I'm going Claus. What was that noise I just made? I was trying to think and talk at the same time.

It's the new favorite drop on TV show. I think it's Lisa Claus in Westchester, Pennsylvania. Beautiful Westchester. And the last name is spelled, again, yesterday, I forget the name, but we were talking about a name that a listener had that was sort of lent itself oh it was cecilia and i said i'll leave the paul simon jokes alone uh this lisa's last name is spelled like santa claus so you know i i feel like that's something that lisa's probably heard at many times in her life so lisa thank you for the donation and we will leave the obvious uh christmas time references It says, I try.

tried to make a challenger gray and christmas joke on twitter the other day boy that's a niche tweet challenger gray and christmas what's that i'm surprised working in public radio you haven't you haven't um you haven't played in this space there is like a huge employment firm i believe i think they they're a staffing company like they you know if you have a like a big office right like you're a big company and you need lots of different people to work at various levels of the office, I think you reach out to this firm, this staffing firm, but their name is Challenger, Gray, and Christmas, which have to be like the three last names of the founders. And they cite them on Marketplace all the time because they're a staffing firm. They also have analysts that are looking at staffing patterns. And when they know the topic of unemployment comes up, it's very common to hear like so and so from Challenger, Gray, and Christmas. But I just feel like whoever got Christmas on that list, like I know your name is Brent Christmas, and I guess it's memorable, but I feel like that must have been like the meeting between Challenger and Gray and Christmas. They were like, okay, we'll call it Challenger Gray, and Christmas was like, what about me?

Hold on, you're suggesting that they should have left the name off because it's distracting because it's a holiday? Oh, I don't think so. I think it stands out more, even though it didn't stand out to me.

Well, that was the argument apparently Brent Christmas made because he got it on there.

Exactly. Well, I represent Brent Christmas.

So I just was like driving back from the gym the other day. Oh, the other – Oh, you're going to the gym? The downside, Andrew, of this getting up on the earlier side that I've been doing is I now hear morning edition twice. Oh, wow. Which has been a real frustration because I'll hear it in the 6 a.m. hour, and it'll be great. And then at the 8 a.m. hour, they're re-racking it. And I'm like, I get it, A. Martinez. We've been down this road, dude. Get some new content.

That must also be a somewhat good feeling, though, because I've been in phases of my life where that was similar. And to me, that meant, boy, I really got to start on the day. I've rung out Morning Edition for all it's worth.

Well, the problem is because the Howard Stern Show is on their two-month summer break, I have, alas, I have nothing else to listen to So I ended up listening to the NPR One app Oh yeah, that thing is awful The other day, well I was, here's what was good about it So, by the way, thank you so much Lisa Claus And, look at this, Angie Dominguez Dear friend Down there in Austin, our friend Angie Thanks Ange, appreciate you Margaret Kay in Kenmore, Washington and then Christy Landefeld in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Beautiful Ann Arbor, Michigan. Thank you so much to these donors of the day. This is what happens, Andrew. We get into the donor segment. My brain starts tangenting like crazy, and then I realize we've got to thank more donors, and I think I'm going to thank more donors, and then I'm going to go back to my tangent, and then I forget it, although in this case I remembered it. You remember the show, the Diane Rehm show?

Yes, of course, very much so.

Well, that show became something called 1A. And it was hosted by Joshua Johnson And I really loved that show, I think you did too Because one of the things they did, first of all just a really well Sort of like when To the point, or what was the Warren Olney one? Not the Which Way LA, but the other way To the point, right? Yeah, to the point When To the Point went away, I feel like there was a sort of A vacuum of this old school Daily public radio show Where you just do a topic and you have like Nine guests on the phone You know, who are all kind of experts On the topic and you're just like as the host just kind of you know running this chat like there just used to be a lot more shows like that and i kind of love those shows like there's nothing particularly sexy about them they're not like beautiful diamonds of public radio as i often call you know the this american life's of the world but there's just something very uh sort of comforting about those programs anyway what the show that the diane ream show became 1a was really a program like that and also they would also just play music like popular music or Sade or whatever and they would just be like yeah this is a new Sade like Joshua Johnson was like yeah this is a new one from Sade as they'd come back you know we're talking about you know the withdrawal from Iraq by the way this is the new one from Sade really and I was like they were using

it as bumper they weren't just playing full songs but they were kind of identifying it not just having it be this random that's that's good I'm glad they're doing that you know I always wanted to do a show where you just like where we just we wanted to do a midday show where we would do a couple of talk segments and then just be like, here, check out this new track from Peter, Bjorn, and John and just play a full song. That was a big dream of mine. I could not – it was not my original idea. It was my boss's idea, but then he left, and I could not get the rest of the producers and my new boss to sign off on that. It would have been a really cool vibe, though. Well, they don't play the full songs on 1A, but they play enough of them,

and they have lyrics. Yeah, that's cool. They will say who the song is, and I'm like –

Thank you.

this is a really good idea. Like, I don't know how it became the case in public radio that you have to just play, you know, you can't have any lyrics or it's, I don't know. I just find it to, I love that element of the show and they've continued it. Joshua then went to MSNBC where he works and a woman named Jennifer White, who I know, took over 1A and she is an excellent host.

Oh, I haven't heard her.

She used to be at WBEZ. I believe she was the morning edition host at WBEZ and she's just really good. So anyway, I was like – I was driving home the other night, and I caught 1A here on OPB. I don't know. It was like 9 o'clock at night. And I was like, this show is good, man. This is like scratching an itch for me. Is that what you do? No.

Yeah, you scratch them.

You can't scratch an itch.

Yeah, you can. I do it. You can scratch an itch. I scratch other people's itches. Mm-hmm.

It's gross. I was like, man, this is exactly what I – I just have this – again, I have this weird soft spot for driving around at night, listening to like pretty serious public radio conversations about things and so anyway the next morning i got up and it was like i was hearing the re-rack of morning edition at eight and i was like what can i do i jump on the mpr1 app what is it it's 1a and they were talking it was the next day's show that they had been promoting the day before in other words they said tomorrow on the show we're going to talk to these two doctors who are experts on everything that's going on with cova and the delta virus and i was like delta virus what's that um and so then i get up the next morning and i put on the npr1 app and i um it's that episode and i remember thinking when i heard that'd be kind of good to hear because it's like that's such a moving target and everything's changing all the time with this story i'd love to hear like an hour-long conversation with two really smart doctors who really know this shit and so i turn it on and i'm listening to it and

i was like this is a good outcome so yeah i'll bet you at this point in my life because i'm not like i used to just listen to public radio constantly non-stop and it's not like that anymore it's much much more here and there because I usually have sports radio on but like in this day and age for me I'll bet you I have an under one percent chance of ever hearing the things that I hear promoted you know like uh all things considered often we'll be promoting something that's going to be on the next day's morning edition or the next day's all things considered or you'll hear a fresh air promo or what have you and I'll bet you I I can't ever remember i cannot remember i should say the last time that i've been like ah yes this is that thing that i heard promoted it just kind of goes into a void for me well this is like a long running

debate i think within the world of public radio too which is do promos work and i think they don't i think what they are are just ways of telling the listeners what is also happening on the station yeah yep that's smart it's more like an it's sort of an ad for your show but it's more generally speaking an ad it's not like someone's going to go oh let me uh you know siri set a reminder sorry everyone that i just made that happen in their life like it's not like people are going set a reminder uh wayne coin is on live wire this week i must listen at 11 a.m on saturday but they hear the promo and it's just sort of a way i think of telling listeners we got cool shit happening on our show so that they have a general positive sense of what's going on because Because, yeah, I can't imagine that there's – also, you know, sometimes I'll be listening to a public radio, and I'll hear – it's Tuesday, and I'll hear a promo for something that's airing on Saturday, and I'll think, wow, that's a really optimistic promo that you think could carry that through their week, that, oh, Hidden Brain on Saturday is going to talk to, you know, whoever. Like, man, you know, I think that I don't think it really works that way. But but yeah, I was I was surprisingly I was shockingly gratified to be listening to a thing yesterday morning that I had heard about the previous night and thought to myself, oh, that would be interesting. I would like to hear that. And then I was hearing it and I was like, everything's coming up Milhouse. And it paid off. It was good. It was good. And, yeah, I mean, it was depressing AF because it was about how avoidable this whole thing has been, at least this, you know, this Delta variant and just the way. But, I mean, also it was encouraging because, look, our listeners are very smart people. They don't need – this is not the place you need to turn for the latest on, like, the science around, like, the Delta variant, et cetera. But I think it's easy if you're someone who has who really tried to do the quote unquote right thing over the course of last year and a half. In other words, you masked up. You were socially distant. You didn't go take trips or visit people that you wanted to visit because of safety concerns. If you if you were somebody who was just trying to really help get us past this. And then you got vaccinated and then you thought, oh, now this is where it's going to be better. And then you start to hear news about breakthrough cases and people being able to transmit it even if they're vaccinated. I think it has a particularly devastating effect on you, more so than somebody who was just kind of casual about it or thought, I don't know, it's a little overblown or or even the people who are like, it's a plan.

or whatever like there's a certain group of us and I count myself in this who really tried very very hard to and and the thing we told ourselves the carrot that was sort of out there in front of us was then it'll be over we'll be vaccinated everyone will be safe and real life can start again and then to hear actually vaccinated people can have a high uh you know load count in their nose gross um it's just really depressing and dispiriting but I also think it's important to remember that there are very very few incidents of people who have been vaccinated being admitted to the er with a breakthrough case it is exceedingly rare i think it's also as of right now pretty rare for people who have been vaccinated to actually transmit it it is possible he had that thing that happened in provincetown but where there was that big get together but like i think

that wait did you say i know that it's hard for a vaccinated person to transmit it because i thought

that was not the case i thought that actually it's possible but it's not what what the cdc is saying is that it is possible it can happen but they're not saying it's as possible as somebody

who's unvaccinated right yeah i mean definitely mitigated it but i thought that the case was yes it's definitely protecting from the from the uh most severe symptoms if you do happen to catch it but and and you might be carrying it not even know and again i'm not trying to spread misinformation here i'm saying it was my understanding that apparently i'm wrong about That I thought the fear was, yes, vaccinated people, they might be kind of, quote unquote, healthy, but carrying this like a that is certainly a thing that can happen.

But it is not if you were to put 100 people in a room and 50 of them are vaccinated, 50 of them are unvaccinated. the chances of the unvaccinated people carrying the virus with them asymptomatically or just carrying it with them and giving it to someone else is still lower than the chances of somebody who has like no antibodies. So like it's possible, but it's not like it's not all the same. In other words, it's like it wasn't for not is what I'm trying to say. And listening to these two doctors, it was kind of like it helped pull me out of a bit of a spiral because I was just feeling like what the frick were we even like what was the point of the last year and a half and all that like freaking you know sanitizing our boxes of wheaties and like all the things that we were doing and like now we're just it's all the same like we're just thanks to the delta variant we're just carrying it around and it's like no it's not that extreme if that makes any sense yeah like yeah being vaccinated makes a huge difference and and uh and and you know there's some there's some promising stuff out of the uk where the delta variant went you know it sort of there was a surge and then it dropped off pretty precipitously so hopefully we'll get a similar outcome here i don't know it's weird it's and you know how it is it's like hour by hour just depending on like the last news article you read or the last you know whatever public radio show you listen to sometimes it feels like okay we're gonna get through this and sometimes it just feels

like will we ever be through this and and now we're in a new situation where before there was a vaccine we have more interesting things to talk about i'll just say this and then i won't whatever you say i won't respond to it and we can move on that way i'll guarantee that i won't elongate this anymore i don't understand it and i won't i'm just gonna see her silently i sit with it um i was going to say that we have this sort of scenario now too which is a new part of the psychology of all of this which is before there was a vaccine we knew that people had different opinions and different theories about what was going on in the world you know from the um i guess you did have anti-maskers so you would have like people like us who were wearing masks and then yeah some people who were not wearing masks making the world more dangerous but now that we have a vaccine and everybody who is i will say like who's right thinking to get the vaccine by the way i'm the reason i'm stalling there is i know i got a emotional voicemail from somebody a while back who said like, listen, I have health conditions that prevent me from getting the vaccine. I think, you know, obviously there is the caveat. If you have health conditions that your doctor says you should not get a vaccine, well, then obviously that that's okay. But I mean, that is such a small minority of the population. That's not the population we're talking about here. But anyway, my point is we are now in this part of the pandemic where it really does seem like, you know, like a few bad apples are ruining it for the rest of us, or maybe a better, you know, like it's like when you're in a classroom and everybody's doing exactly what they've been told the whole time, but then you have a few bad kids in the back, and then the whole class can't go to recess, you know?

Yes, it's very, very frustrating. I'll tell you what else is frustrating. The fact that it would appear, based on, you know, one piece of reporting in The Ringer, that this guy who is looking like he's going to be the new host of Jeopardy Thank you.

is kind of, sort of in the words, the immortal words of the Arizona Cardinal football coach Dennis Green, kind of appears like he might be who we thought he was. Like, he always struck me as a little bit of a sort of, you know, to use a Game of Thrones reference, kind of a Littlefinger vibe going on, you know? Somebody who's just kind of always there off to the side, or if you want to go back further, like to David Copperfield, a real sort of Uriah Heap vibration where somebody who just sort of seems like they're just kind of hanging out on the sideline, but they're sort of calculating everything pretty carefully. The story that The Ringer put out yesterday basically said, look, when this dude, Mike Richards, when he ended up guest hosting, he sort of presented it to everyone, uh like the contestants and the media anybody who would ask him as this kind of like oh we just had someone cancel at the last minute so they literally had no one to do it so i just like just did it and fingers crossed and what this reporting uh alleges based on talking to a lot of people inside uh the you know sony and the company whatever the company is that i guess merv griffin productions is that what really happened was there was somebody that was supposed to be one of these you know kind of like fill in hosts slash people auditioning for it and they had like a minor scheduling conflict and the jeopardy folks were like oh that's fine we can work around it we can make that happen there was one person who was like no no we can't make that happen it's impossible to make that happen i'll give you 10 guesses interest to who that was uh but i think you only need one it was the dude mike richards oh i was gonna say varus damn it yeah this is why i'm really embarking on a personal health plan andrew because i look so much so much like varus i mean it's striking you're wearing those tunics man i told you get a belt do not ask me what's in this box that i've got here in the broadcast center uh shut up box I really do look like Varys it's really wild but anyway yeah it's so he it sounds like if these people would be believed I don't know why they would lie but I mean it just sounds like he's sort of exactly the dude who who we thought he was in that he was like sitting there I guess I also didn't realize this but he you know he worked on The Price Is Right he was a high up producer of The Price Is Right and guess what he also did he was trying very hard to be the new host of The Price Is Right until Drew Carey got it. Like now on the other hand, what am I always trying to do? I'm always trying to weasel myself into situations, whether it's television jobs or, you know, radio things or whatever. So it's like on the one hand, I got, I don't understand why this strikes me as so thirsty because I wouldn't be talking to you into this microphone or, you know, talking into this

microphone to you, if not for my own thirsty tendencies, but there's just something about him kind of just hanging around, being the last guy at the bar. And then also presenting his fill-in stint at Jeopardy as being kind of like, you know, it's a real don't make me sing kind of a thing. Oh, don't make me sing. Oh, please. No, please, please. The Kristen Wiig character from SNL. It's like, oh, don't make me host. Oh, please. I wouldn't. I wouldn't dream of it. And then it turns out, no, I'm actually, I've positioned myself to do this. I've basically like gotten, you know, taken someone else off the list who would have done it and could have done it, but I'm acting like their schedule conflict is so profound that that we got to push them off now i'm here now i'm negotiating with the bosses now i have the job the other thing too i was reading the daily beast he while he was at the price is right uh there have been let me put it this way i want to make sure i don't say something that's slanderous but there have been multiple lawsuits uh from the people that worked at the Price is Right against the overall like executive team which included this guy and these were from what we used to call back in the days uh which I don't think was an appropriate terminology but you'd call them Barker's Beauties basically the women who are kind of the models on the show on Price is Right and you know they're showing off all of the products and everything and um I haven't watch the prices right in a long long time although i do get the sense drew carey is a

pretty good host yeah me too this is um you know i i've said on the show before like i'm really really not interested in uh in like kind of whatever talking about people's appearances because first of all who am i to talk and also if you do the job right like who cares but i did not this friend of mine was texting me i had i had tweeted out something ridiculous about drew carey That didn't even really make any sense the other day because it was just based on some like I retweeted something that popped up. like vintage uh tv guide cover with right and you said i missed the old drew carry because the because the um because the cover said it was from like 1994 and it says the new drew and my joke was i missed the old drew i guess it was a kanye reference i don't even know what i was doing it doesn't matter but then after i sent it out i was wondering if some people thought that i was saying literally i missed this version of drew carry because somebody sent me these photos of him i didn't realize that his look is very kind of bedraggled now right he's hosting that show but he's got kind of like longish kind of just shaggy gray beard that looks sort of unkempt have you

seen this no i haven't this is all news to me and i'm now i'm gonna send you the photos so i'm

seeing it i actually kind of like it yeah i don't that's why i say like i'm not trying to shame in any way here but i was very surprised i mean that i mean that is not your traditional like a just midday game show host look right i mean to take it back it's got a real were you a good

boy or girl this year there's a real mall santa vibe yeah right and it's the sort of unkemptness

of the beard and like kind of the ducktail like kind of longish hair in the back yeah

it's interesting i actually i dig it because drew carey seems to be a person who well first of all He seems like a really sweet dude And also Remember his big The Drew Carey show obviously was a stand up for many years And then he got the Drew Carey show But that was the whole Sort of look there was those 1950s kind of thick black glasses And a flat top and just this one And he was you know a man of Sort of large carriage in those days And that was a whole look And then he at some point You know kind of I guess you know Changed his lifestyle to some degree or whatever He sort of lost a lot of weight, and then he was kind of like svelte Drew Carey, and he had a bit of a different look, and now he's kind of like – again, in one of them, I swear to God, he looks like David Lynch vaguely, and he's like wearing like a collared shirt that's buttoned up to the top collar but no tie or top button, and it's pretty stylish looking. Like I kind of dig that he's been like at least three different versions of Drew Carey in his public career.

Yeah, because I'm looking at some photos here. Yeah, one of them, he's like, when he apparently, I didn't really recall this, but in some of these photos, he clearly had, he was younger and he had lost a lot of weight. And he actually had quite the jawline. I will give him credit for that.

He was in the military in his young, young days. And he was like a, you know, I've seen pictures of that. He was a real bonafide stud.

Cleveland Browns fan, of course. I'm looking at headlines here. Lifelong Browns fan. Game show host Drew Carey will be rooting for the home team on Sunday. That's a headline. And that's some that's what ABC News 5 Cleveland needed to dedicate resources to. Will Drew Carey be rooting for the Browns on Sunday? This headline says yes. This reporter says yes.

You know, it's another weird headline I saw the other day. And I am no one to talk about this because I am the guy who was on this show years ago being like for swearing all drinking. And I will never drink again. And obviously I drink. So I'm not trying to get on people about their sobriety, but the headline was The Weeknd, the singer, the performer, The Weeknd is sober now. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. And then I dig into the piece, and it's like, well, he still drinks, and he still smokes pot, but he's not doing coke anymore. Isn't the headline The Weeknd has stopped doing coke?

Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. You're not judging him. You're just saying that's not an accurate – like that's not what the definition of sober is.

I would also read an article that says The Weeknd stopped doing coke. Right. Yeah, it was just there were so many caveats. Yeah, like, because, you know, a lot of people are Cali sober, which I find very intriguing. And I was saying this to Addy last night. Like I might I definitely could see myself trying to go in that direction at some point, you know, which is the Cali sober is just the idea that you maybe you don't drink alcohol, but you still engage with like marijuana.

But you literally you don't like marijuana, though. That's the problem.

Yeah, but I feel like if I committed myself to it, I could.

Oh, my God.

No, I mean, I don't mean to wake and bake. Oh, you're being serious. I'm being totally serious. I just haven't – I have not engaged with it very much in my life. I mean I'm talking like probably 20 times max, if that. And so whereas I have a very comfortable and familiar relationship with alcohol, which is basically poison, I don't have that with weed, but it's probably just because I haven't done it very much. Like, I honestly think it wouldn't be the most crazy idea for me at some point to sort of go to really do some research and say, like, is there a thing, a particular product, because it's so scientific now, that I could, you know, in lieu of having a JMO, have a little puff of that or whatever, and would that kind of create a certain relaxation or whatever it is I'm looking for? Because that, I think, would probably be long-term better for me. You know what I mean? Yeah.

No, it's probably.

Just on the physical side. so I you know like I said I think that the Cali sober movement is a kind of an interesting one to me but anyway there's all

All versions of how people are, I guess, thinking about their relationships with drugs and alcohol. But I just think – but as I read down to the article, well, he still does drink. Okay. All right, well. And he still smokes weed.

I don't know if this is going to pay off or not, but I think I found a version of the article you're talking about. I think this might actually be – I don't know if this is an actual interview with him or if this is just one of those things where they put a bunch of words over images and try to fool me. But let's take a listen to this. I'd just like to say – Oh, it's the wrong thing. I was trying to spoof you I don't even know what that is God damn it That was going to be so good I was so proud of my setup There we have a drop That you sent me a long time ago Or somebody sent me a long time ago Where I think it's like I don't know It's like some janky skit from the internet Where there's somebody with a southern accent Saying like he doesn't do drugs And he's like listing all the drugs he doesn't do But then how much he loves a bunch of other drugs Does this ring a bell to you at all? No I'm doing a terrible job of describing it Yeah Anyway, I'm just really mad right now, man. That was going to be so good.

Don't, Andrew, don't go to the dark side. You just realize six hours from now, you're going to be hanging out in a cute hotel in Packwood. You're going to be having a yummy dinner. You're going to order a beer, and you're going to be like, oh, I don't want that. But then about the third sip, you're going to be like, huh, that's actually going down better than I expected it to. And then all of a sudden, it's 2 o'clock in the morning, and for some reason.

You're like, why is Bobby? Exactly what I was going to say. What? What happened?

I just want to put a little bow on this, although that's a weird way to describe it, because I don't want to elide what seems like there might be some real concerns around the managerial style of this new would-be new Jeopardy host. But so a number of the women who worked on The Price is Right have said, you know, through lawsuits and other things that they felt that they were treated inappropriately by the staff. It doesn't seem like a lot of it is this guy walked into a room and did this. It's more just like this. They would allege that it was a toxic culture where they were, you know, like one of them says that she was told that if this guy, mike richards had known she was pregnant because i guess she was pregnant but but it was not showing she would not have been hired i think she got the job and then was hired or excuse me she was hired to do the job and then a few months later said i'm actually pregnant i'm gonna need some time uh you know for the maternity leave and and that was not they didn't go over well just sounds like it was a kind of a shitty environment to work in and there was a lot of here because i just think

of those shows as being so like that's just so that's the antithesis of what those shows are supposed to inspire in us right like they're just they're just supposed to be bright happy places

yeah i mean they are and yet everything we know about toxic masculinity and just the patriarchy tells me that it was probably never a great scene to be in a bikini on national television right yeah um you know putting a golf ball yeah or standing next to a broy hill dinette set I bet you it was not great at any point in the history of that happening, you know, I don't think so. I think it's unlikely. So I guess my point on all that is just to say, you know, I guess we'll see what happens with all of this. I don't know how much of this noise is noisy enough that it could it could kind of, you know, push things in another direction. I was talking to somebody yesterday who was of the opinion that maybe you had said, Andrew, I thought your hot take yesterday was great, which is maybe this was a trial balloon by the Jeopardy folks just to kind of be like, what is the Internet going to make or what are people going to make of this this hire? And it would seem like everyone's been pretty down on it. I was talking to somebody yesterday who thought maybe it was the dude himself, the would-be host himself, Mike, who kind of leaked it as a way of trying to, like, sort of let the air out of the balloon slowly instead of popping it all at once. Like, if they just announced that he was the new host, there could be this overwhelming backlash. But if you kind of do it in drips and drabs, like, he's in final negotiations. You could just spread out the anger and have it be survivable.

that's that's a very interesting theory i feel like that it just yeah it doesn't if that if that is and again that's just a theory that's one person's theory i guess but um that doesn't seem like a very good plan because then it gives everybody to because i honestly thought it made more sense like for the institution to leak it out and then you can kind of gauge reaction and then you can say well nothing has been inked right now so we can adjust whereas right they're doing it to themselves and he's already getting this negative backlash but nothing is on paper like

you've just screwed yourself yeah I just I mean I keep saying this I said it yesterday I think Ken Jen gets a little bit of a special

sort of sort of a special position because he is so associated with the show and because he was you know he has these records at the show and just is so it feels like the idea of Ken Jin getting the job would kind of make sense to me but almost literally any other white male makes no sense to me

like I mean especially yeah one without any kind of credentials or like a name recognition with the

audience the era that we live in the idea that That a person of color or a woman or a woman who is a person of color, whatever, that that was not at the absolute top of their list as a thing that they would want to consider is just shocking to me. It's so shocking to me. I cannot believe a white dude who's not Ken Jennings got that job.

Which, again, nobody's got the job. Just a reminder of that. You know what I mean? I'm still in the running. Even the story said, like, there's just like negotiations are ongoing and people were, you know, people who weren't commenting on the record on background were saying, like, you know, there's still candidates in the mix. So whoever leaked this, it was definitely a leak. I think it was was it Variety who had it was a Hollywood reporter. I want to say Variety. Whoever had this is definitely a leak from some interested party.

Yeah.

All right.

I'm put two minutes on the clock. OK. I do want to tell you about this, the secret tricks hidden inside restaurant menus. This is from the BBC, somebody named Richard Gray. There's an entire industry known as menu engineering, which is dedicated to basically designing menus so that people will have a certain feeling when they read the menus and will, of course, spend more money. Heavier menus have been shown to suggest to the customer they are in a more upscale establishment. Yeah, I can see that. And I've noticed that, too. Like, usually the fancier of the place, sometimes they'll just give you a book. It's just like a giant wood-bound book of a menu. They did a study in Switzerland that found that wine that is labeled with difficult-to-read script was liked more by drinkers than the same wine that was carrying a simpler typeface.

Oh, my God. Because if it's easy, then you're not a true connoisseur.

I know. This is, like, confirming all of your—all the things about restaurant life that I think you find not really the greatest, right, Andrew?

Well, not all. I actually think it's interesting I mean I love the science behind this stuff I love the psychology of all kinds of marketing that we don't think about like just you know we'll mention sometimes on the show just the psychology of how you lay out a grocery store like I find this all really fascinating it's not really like kind of triggering that it's just the wine thing just seems to anybody who feels like I feel like there are the people in the world who say like no like don't let wine intimidate you the world of wine is not intimidating it's just fun get on the train wherever you are and we'll we'll we'll take you the rest of the way but then it's like oh yes people like you know the people will order a different kind of wine if it's harder to read totally like kind of belies that or it maybe doesn't belie it but it just like underscores this idea that there are like people who want to be almost like gatekeepers to the world of wine in a certain way you have to overcome something and it has says something about you if you understand wine uh the same study found

that rounder typefaces convey a sweeter taste of the food to people, while angular fonts tend to convey a salty, sour, or bitter experience.

Now that, I can't even wrap my head around, to be honest with you.

Just think about a round, I mean, just think about something angular versus something round, and if there's a round font, it makes your brain think, oh, this food is going to be sweet or sweeter, and if it's angular, you think, oh, it's going to be sour or bitter. Maybe that's why they have separate dessert menus. You can use different fonts. Giving dishes descriptive names can increase sales by up to 27% in some cases. Also, Stanford put out a study that found that vegetables that have been given indulgent-sounding descriptions, such as sweet sizzling green beans and crispy shallots, those were picked 23% more because it made them sound more exciting and flavorsome. That's probably not that surprising. No. Here's one. A study from the University of Cologne in Germany, this is just from last year, found that by naming dishes with words that mimic the mouth movements when eating, restaurants could increase the palatability of their food. So imagine this. Words that move from the front of your mouth to the back of your mouth, which is also what the sensation of eating is, Andrew, that makes people think the food is more appealing. And the example they use, which I don't think is really a food, but the word bodoc, say the word bodoc and experience how it moves through your mouth. It starts at the beginning because you're making that B sound and ends with that K sound. Yeah, you got to pull your tongue back. Okay. So if you have a bodoc steak or something, if you've named one of your dishes something.

thing that causes the person to say the word so that it moves naturally from the front to the back that apparently makes people more hungry for that food wow that um i'm dubious

i mean uh listen i haven't studied it out but like that wait till you're wait till you're ordering the bodoc steak yeah i know tonight i will admit that i am really hungry for bodoc steak right now and i don't even know what it is what is your go-to hangover food oh um well not on a weekday i wouldn't do this but like if there's a um you know i don't i don't have a great answer for that but like if it's a weekend like let's say that we went to like the eagles on a friday we stayed out all night or we had a party or something it was like one of those and you just wake up in the unusually hungover state i feel like we genevieve and i kind of think like we we've earned some fast food like we don't we're not a big fast food family and again i like to say it doesn't mean i'm eating healthy i just ate a chicken parmesan sandwich other night you know at a bar that's not fast food but it's i'm not like on some high horse here the shit that i eat just happens to not be fast food but like i do think that like there's um at some point we're like well we got really drunk last night let's reward ourselves with some burger king because burger king would be my number one fast food restaurant i think um so yeah yeah i mean you know you can do that thing where you kind of pull different menu items together and create your fantasy fast food meal but i think just uh the the median best fast food restaurant for me is

burger king so i'll go with that i know jen used to have a whole system as you would be unsurprised to hear and it involved vitamin water i believe and dick's cheeseburgers and she would like she would send jason out for this uh you know if she woke up on a saturday morning or a sunday morning and was like, you know, not feeling great from the night before. And apparently she swore by that combination of stuff. I mean, there is something that is actually kind of fun and delicious about making terrible decisions. And then the next morning being like, that means I should make more. Exactly. I've earned these. And I'm not even being sarcastic or sarcastic. There is something kind of that's just comforting about being like, And I'm going to use a swear here, so sorry, kids. There is something very nice about being like, fuck it. Like, I feel like S today. Why can't I say shit when I just said the F word? There's something that's very comforting about just getting up and being like, I feel terrible. I made bad decisions last night. And the only way to fix this is with more bad decisions.

Wait, this isn't the tape I'm looking for, is it? There are individuals out there that get turned on by feet. Nope, that's not it. Sorry, man.

I've looked, I've done every search in my audio archive for, like, drugs, hi. I've, like, I've searched every drug I can think of, and nothing is coming up. I know I have this. I've played it, but I probably have not played it in, you know, probably since 2012 or something.

Can it be the intro tape on Monday?

If I can ever find it. I'm literally now just starting with my oldest drop. I have, well, I only have 3,100 drops in this folder, and I'm going through each and every one of them right now. So just keep talking. I also, by the way, don't have a music for your weekend picked out. So I'm just – and I'm obsessed with this. I'm like a –

Well, did you play anything on the old jukebox last night?

No. I don't initiate – this is – I don't know if you want the complicated answer to this. The easy answer is no. The slightly longer answer is I do not mess with the jukebox at Teddy's unless somebody else initiates it first. Because I know that the – Wow. The bartenders there, they have their playlist that they all have their kind of like – it's all sort of of a piece, but they all have their own playlist that they play. And they like it and they really don't like it when people start like kind of like – I'll hear them complaining about like somebody starting the jukebox, playing one song, and then it interrupts their playlist. And then it kind of keeps bouncing back and forth, and songs are getting cut off, and people aren't keeping a constant playlist going. That drives them crazy. So I don't usually do that. But then if some other Yahoo there, like they did a few nights ago, starts playing like, you know, Fleetwood Mac songs on the jukebox, which is not, by the way, this isn't an anti Fleetwood Mac rant. But I'm just saying, like, what is the point of just putting like an entire Fleetwood Mac greatest hits on the jukebox? Like, can I get some to people were skipping my songs just to play all Queen songs in Fleetwood Mac? I'm just like, can we mix it up a little bit? I'm trying to add some spice here anyway. Yeah. So I did not do that last night because nobody else was playing on the jukebox.

I see. Yeah, I don't ever get upsold on the prioritize your music button, you know, pay more credits to move to the top of the list. But I'm always shocked, like that joint in my father's place, I'll be there sometimes and I very much like to. I sit over in the corner and I'm like on AMI and I feel like I'm, which is like there's touch tunes in AMI. these are like the two yeah you know um prominent like systems and i'll sit over in the corner and i'll just like set up a whole playlist of songs and i'll just delight in watching people get excited about the songs and they have no idea who's who's playing it and it's so much better than just what the default setting was because it's just like you know the thing's just going to cycle through a bunch of random music is like playing some john saccada bullshit or something and then all of a sudden it's like broccoli comes on by like dram and lil yachty and everyone's

getting hyped and i'm like yes but the key is though you got to keep that playlist going like don't let it like kind of keep switching on and off you know like once you committed to that like you gotta you gotta have before you even um hit play on the first song you should probably have at least your first two if not three songs picked out by the way luke i'm googling the story about the weekend you were talking about and i think i actually found um video of him talking about this uh i'm not sure if it's one of those videos where they just put text over the screen or if it's an actual interview but i think i found how you found this i'm very excited to go with me on the artist the weekend let's go with this this might be actually the weekend here now in the language

the addict that is not it son of a god i was that was called marijuana let's hear it this was marijuana warning in the language the addicts use among themselves they never say to each other let's smoke a marijuana cigarette they say let's turn on or let's blast a joint let's blast a joint

that's gonna be you in the future when you quit drinking you're gonna be like yeah man i'm cali

sober i'm blasting blasting joints like your dad blasts emails i really really thought that was it i'm not joking i was so no i could tell in your voice that you thought you had found it and he was like i mean this is gonna haunt your entire hike tomorrow no i'm not going on the hike lou what are

you talking about you think I can go hiking with it I have to go through every drop I've only got about uh probably 3,000 more to go through at this point we got to get the show wrapped up

because you have important work to do I literally don't have a music you go first well I'll start I'll start I'll buy you some time also hey Andrew my friend yeah you also don't have to do a song this week yeah well what about that I saw you know our friend Kiki Lolo was retweeting some or I should say, was Instagramming something. And it was saying to people, basically, particularly young people who may be just getting kind of started in life and adult life, you don't have to stick around for it, just generally. If it's a bad date, you don't have to stick around for it. If it's a bad job, if it's a bad relation, if it's a bad situation, there's no honor in just gutting it out, right? And for you, Andrew, if this is just not the day for you to have a song, there's no honor in having a song.

You just telling that story gave me enough time to pick out a song. Well, that was the goal. You're welcome.

Do you want to start with your song?

Sure, why not? I hope this starts. I didn't realize this is such a long song, but you were just talking about teddies. And I said that there's a vibe there, I would say, no matter who's working for the most part. But also, different bartenders definitely have their own kind of playlist that I can recognize at this point because I'm making a lot of good decisions in my life. And my buddy Keith, who works there, he's always playing a lot of stuff like this. This is a song called Why Can't I Touch It by the Buzzcocks. Take a listen to this. This is very Keith Behind the Bar era teddies. Take a listen.

Well, it seems so real I can't see it And it seems so real I can't feel it And it seems so real I can't taste it And it seems so real I can't hear it

So why?

I know one thing about the Buzzcocks. Man, I love that song. That they sing this song. That's literally all I know. Do you know anything about them?

I don't. You know, I would see their name when I was, you know, a teenager on things because they were like a cool band. But I always found the name Buzzcocks sort of off-putting. Yeah, it sounds very edgy. But I like that song a lot. Have you heard it before?

Like, are you hearing this now and you're like, oh, I've heard this before?

No, I think that might literally be the first Buzzcocks song I've ever actually heard. I've seen their name on t-shirts for my whole life, but I don't think I ever knew their story. Are they from the... UK or from Canada. It feels like they might be from somewhere not America.

Yeah, honestly. I honestly don't know. I could look it up.

Is this the drop you were looking for? All right, kid.

Let's steal some drugs. Was that the one? That is not the one. That's good, though. What else you got in the arsenal there? Was this the one? I don't do the drugs. I don't do the drugs. No drugs. No drugs. That's not it.

That's Al Madrigal's housekeeper who accidentally ate one of his edibles and was freaking out. Oh. But this one.

There's going to be sex, drugs, rock and roll, chips, dips, chains, whips. You know, your basic high school orgy type of thing. I'm not talking candle wax on their nipples. What? I know what that is. What? I know what that is.

I just did a Google search for the word drugs in my iTunes. What were you reading?

That was, you were out. And I think Hannah was the guest host, and I was reading from my diary. No, everything was true except for the diary part. I did something. Let me tease this out a little bit. So I think I was giving Hannah a quiz, right? And because we host a cleaning podcast together, the quiz was about people cleaning up language in movies. And so I had a whole bunch of examples of – I had a whole bunch of examples. and I can't remember exactly how it went down, but of edits, right? Like overdubs in movies, like ridiculous overdubs. Oh, right, like, you know, Find a Stranger in the Alps. Exactly. That's a perfect example. And this, I cannot remember that particular movie. It was an 80s movie, and that quote is from some punk girl, I think, and then however they edited that was hilarious. But what you just heard was the original script that was then cleaned up.

Because I was trying to think, like, I feel like I would remember that conversation.

Can you actually play that again? I'm going to Google some of the words. We can get to this movie. Play it again. Really? Yeah. Are we good with the listeners hearing this again? There's going to be sex, drugs, rock and roll, chips, dips, chains, whips. You know, your basic high school orgy type of thing. There it is. I'm not talking candle wax on their nipples. It's weird science.

Wow. Here, let me. I guess if they put it in weird science, we can put it in our little podcast.

It's such a little liar. No, I've whipped up this nasty little soiree over at his friend Wyatt's house.

Soiree what?

Soiree, honey. I think that means party. Party. You know, there's going to be sex, drugs, rock and roll, chips, dips, chains, whips.

You got it. There it is. Yeah, Kelly LeBrock. There you go. Oh, my gosh. Like, I didn't usually as a kid, I didn't sort of become fascinated with the, you know, the Baywatch beauties or whatever it was. But but Kelly LeBrock, I thought was just weird science. I thought was the just picture of of female beauty.

I did. I wouldn't have even known that name. I don't think I watched this movie as a kid. I don't even know if I've ever seen it all the way.

I would have had a Kelly LeBrock poster. Would my parents have allowed it? As you know, Andrew, I grew up in a house where you had to call it Amster Darn. Yeah, I know. Oh, hey, how did that tweet do? I still think that's a really good joke by the way I really do I thought it was very gentlemanly that I liked Your tweet and you liked my tweet because remember it was a competition

Oh that's right well I'm sure I mean look I'm just looking at I just googled you on Twitter I just googled you on Twitter Hey Gorgle You have 15.1 You have 15,000 followers Of course you're going to have more likes than me

Well there was a longer tail I believe on that tweet You got the coveted Chris Hayes Like smash Right away like instantaneous is just dopamine download um you got 74 likes that's pretty good mine was you know again mine was sort of built for a mine was built for a marathon not a sprint oh i got a i got a i got

a peewee 55 over here you're in the 70s my god 55 is not nothing all right listen i got it we

gotta uh we gotta wrap this up i have 4 000 followers you have 15 000 followers well many of those are eggs i didn't run the program you ran to like go through and carefully get rid of i'm good i mean if anyone wants to buy me more fake followers i'm into it yeah i've been very clear about that all right here's my show my song is a song that i heard on a playlist uh that was my daughter's playlist that's how i start every suggestion on music for your weekend um bar called

my daughter's playlist it could be right right next to my father's place yeah um this is uh

This is a song from a French band called La Femme. The song is called Tu Tien Lasse, or Tu Tien Lasse. I don't know how you say L-A-S-S-E-S with a French accent. But that translates to you get tired of it. Kind of like the listeners, when I keep telling them I got this song from a playlist of my daughters. But I am obsessed with this song, Andrew. It ticks every box for me. It's French. It's kind of dreamy. although I think it's

called like psych pop or something that's technically the genre and this is relatively new right yeah i believe it's it's you know in the last few years okay so can you do are you able to find that yeah i got it right here can you just play that i am this i i have been playing this song non-stop since about a week and a half ago when i heard it when i was on vacation oh luke

this is um this is off an album that just came out in 2021 so you are fresh as a daisy here got Here we go.

Oh bébé, tu t'enlaces

Et je pleure depuis dix ans So there you go.

That's La Femme doing You Get Tired of It. It's a very vibey summer song. Yeah, I could see you listening to that on an airplane. Yes, indeed. Yeah, I'm really... And then I went and was listening to all their music, and to be honest with you, a lot of it is too out there for me, but that song is right in the sweet spot. All right, that brings us to our listener suggestion. I have never done this before, Andrew, in the history of the show, but I'm doing it this week. This is from listener Abony. Abony says, hi, guys. You know how sometimes you're in a mood and a song comes on and it reminds you that you are not unique, which paradoxically makes you feel better? That's this song for me. The song is Reggie. I don't want to feel no more. Now, I didn't listen to the song. I just liked that description of it so much from Abony that I said, all right, take a flyer on it. Usually I listen to the song and I try to go, is this something that will appeal to the listeners or be new for the listeners? I don't know how this song sounds But I love Abney's description of it So that's what we're gonna do

Alright cool I don't know this song either I wonder if

So that's what we're going out with It's not the weekend right

It's not the weekend Talking about Do you have any drops

Do you have any audio Of the weekend Talking about his New sober lifestyle

Let me see here You know what I do He says that He's really cleaning things up

Good evening everyone Our top

No God

This is my favorite show we've done in like two years just because of your level of frustration and i'm legit frustrated too

like i know that's what makes it great label these things so carefully now back in the day and this is an old one back in the day i didn't label them quite as carefully but like what could it be called it's like some like southern guy going on and on he's just listing all these drugs i've searched let's just get out of here all right abony thank you abony thanks abony and thanks everyone for

listening i'll be back here on monday i mean unless andrew just absolutely loses his marbles

over the weekend i'm not going anywhere i'll still be here on monday we'll see you on monday

until then have a great weekend stay safe stay dry and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

sometimes i feel good in my chest but i i can never get that to my head Sometimes I feel good in my bed Get up and I don't feel good no more The street said you don't need meds My mama said you just need prayer I need what they give you at the dentist I don't wanna feel no more Cause I don't wanna feel no more Cause I don't wanna feel no more The streets said you don't need meds, my momma said you just need prayer. I need what they give you at the dentist, I don't wanna feel no more.

I have more stories like that I can tell you too.

All kinds of drug-related stories. I'll try and keep you awake with him tonight.

Power out.