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that's funky i like that thank you yes yeah that's a fun card where does the music come from there's a small chip and speaker set that goes into the back of the card was it a cd no it's more like a um a chip and speaker set that we uh It's very small, and it's about the size of your thumbnail, and we just put it right inside the back of the card. Like headphones? No, this is a computer chip that's devoted really to one function only, the playing of the song when we open the card, and then I guess you could say its second function is turning off at this point. Like a Walkman? No, it's not like a Walkman at all. TBTL! is this for real it's called the dark web it's where you can find all the cool stuff

we're the number one show in hospitals and on sinking riverboat casinos what was the name of the medicine um i want to say it's called uh crouch cream but that's not right um but i think

it's called uh kneesy kneesy i have never heard someone say so many wrong things one after the other consecutively in a row. My door's always open, except when it's closed, but you can open

it when it's closed. All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Wednesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. This is the beginning of a social engineering attack. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Hey, where's the freaking Gabagoo. Coming to you once again from just a hop, skip, and a jump from the Magic Castle here in Hollywoo, California at the intersection of Hollywood and Highline. Highline? Are they still calling it Highline? Or did they change it to Highland? I'm not sure. Oh, ma,

pa, it's just beautiful.

Day started off a little on the cloudy side, which was convenient because once again, Got myself out to Ol' Runyon Canyon Ski-daddled up that thing I don't know if jogging down Is really the best plan for me I am at the age now I'm 45 years old I was having a conversation with The guy who does the sound On these CBS television shoots And he's a little bit older than me But a very fit guy Steve Miller By the way, what's it like to go through life Being named Steve Miller? Uh, you know, Luke, I am your father's got nothing on being named Steve Miller. We're talking about exercise and he was saying, yeah, I just can't run downhill. It's just too hard on my body. And I think I'm reaching that phase. Not that any of you were wondering or asking or curious about that, but I'm just reflecting on. The going up is not fun in the coming down is somehow not fun either. But, you know, it is a lot of fun. Episode 3486 in a collector series.

Let the fun begin.

Which is where we've arrived on this Wednesday I've been in L.A. doing this TV story about the Hollywood Bowl Which is a cool outdoor music and performance venue I'm sure many of you are familiar with it I'd been to the Hollywood Bowl many, many times It was always to see rock acts It was to see the likes of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds Or Wilco or folks like that But last night I went and I watched the L.A. Philharmonic perform the work of George Gershwin. I hate to say it, it was kind of cool. It was without a doubt the coolest night I've ever seen. It was the most fun I've ever had, probably, at the Hollywood Bowl. So I'll give you a bit. I also met easily my two favorite septuagenarians who met recently on eHarmony. Easily in the top five of the septuagenarians I know who recently met on eHarmony. were my new friends Ron and Diana, who I met last night. Also, get ready, America. Excuse me, America, do you mind? Because hard Mountain Dew is here. I don't know what that means, but it sounds disgusting. We will explain what is going on with those words I just said coming up in just a few plus emails and V-mails. And this guy, the longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. I've asked him, and honestly, I've asked his supervisor to talk to him during his Thrive Review to try to keep things clean on the show. Oh, explicit? Ooh.

He is Andrew Walsh, and he is joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

We went, let's see, today's Wednesday. We went seven full shows after the break of you not introducing me with my own voice. I thought it was the end of one era and the beginning of a much more beautiful era, and now here we are on Wednesday the 11th.

Would it put you, this is a serious question. First of all, I believe you were supposed to start by talking about a recent story involving Canadian singer-songwriter The Weeknd. Oh, right. I was building up to it. Okay. Second of all, and this is, I'm being very serious when I say this. I'm not spoofing yet. Does it actually throw you off for me to play a drop of you that has usually been carefully selected by our friend, unpaid producer of the show, one Lynn Famdemort? Does it throw you off? Because if it does, I won't do it, really and truly Because it's like, I don't want to set you up for failure I want to set you up for success at the beginning of the show

I will give you an honest answer about this That is probably not very interesting And then I have an observation About Runyon Canyon And your tales From therein that I'd like to circle around to I'm putting out a

There's a new documentary coming out Echoes of Luke crying From the canyon It's really good It features zero David Crosby and Joni Mitchell. But other than that, it's, I think, going to be pretty big.

What is that a reference to?

There's a documentary that came out recently called Echoes from the Canyon. And I think it's probably about, I don't know if it's actually about that canyon, but it's about the sort of music scene in the 70s where you had all of these artists like Graham Nash and David Crosby and, you know, you name it from that era, all kind of converging in L.A. In some big old home in one of these canyons And being creative and making a bunch of music My documentary would be the echoes of me Crying in the canyon because it's very steep

Gotcha To answer your question about the intro I would never say that you playing a clip of me Throws me Or if it does, not in any kind of Super negative way I'm not saying that you've never Thrown me or caught me off guard But no, it's not something that I think Or that I have thought in the past oh I wish Luke wouldn't do that that is honestly not something that goes through my head however I will say I enjoyed the past six days more than you might have expected I don't really think about I really don't think about it that much that's the truth it's not something that is like that bothers me it's not like in the back of my head but I would say that it was a pleasant surprise the past five days or six days not to be confronted with the reality of my own stupid voice one thing I wanted to say about the canyon thing Actually, I was going to say something about this honestly on Monday when you mentioned it and Tuesday. Now, today I feel like you're just baiting me because on Monday you mentioned, and I think if you go back to the tape, you will find I'm right about this. Monday you mentioned walking through Runyon Canyon. Yesterday I believe you used the word hike, that you were hiking through Runyon Canyon. Today, you literally said skedaddle and jog. I feel like you should only do one verb in Runyon Canyon, and it is run. Runyon. No.

I know. It's really set up for that. That's not lost on me that run is in the name of the canyon. Skedaddle. You went with skedaddle. Or maybe you said skedaddle. I don't know. But see, here's the thing, Andrew. And I've been thinking about this a lot as I have been skedaddling up this canyon. I am physically incapable of running up it. I am almost physically incapable of walking up it. Today, my goal was no brakes while you're going up the – so you – again, I apologize. There's basically two groups of people hearing this. The people that know about Runyon Canyon, so this is boring because they're like, we get it. And the people who have no idea what it is who are even more bored with this. But when you enter this kind of canyon park thing, if you take a left, there's a paved path. Have you and Veves, did you and Veves ever walk up this in your days of living in Los Angeles?

I don't think I did. I mean, Veves gets out more than I do. So I'll bet you she has some experience there, but I have none.

So if you go to the left, if you go to the left when you're entering this thing, and by the way, I can see it from this room, which also is part of the reason I'm talking about it so much is because I'm staring at it as I'm doing the first five minutes of the show, and I'm looking at little ant-sized people struggling and making their way up to the top. But if you go to the left, there's a paved, you know, trail, I guess. Or, you know, it's wide enough you could drive a car in it, but, of course, no automobiles are allowed. So just people hiking, a lot of them with their dogs. And that one is a little bit more gradual. That would be unfun to jog up, but I could maybe jog up part of it and then walk for a while and then jog more of it. But if you go to the right, it's just this dirt trail that has these kind of very primitive steps cut into it out of rocks and some cement they've poured and some pieces of wood. And there are certain points where it feels like you're just walking up the side of a building. Like it is so steep. And so I cannot run that section And what I do basically is I run, I jog wherever It is that it's flat or only Uphill a little bit And then when I can't, my body is just like No moss, like Roberto Duran I then will sort of walk So it's a combination of, and then if it's downhill I run, so it is a combination Of walking, hiking Running And skedaddling Is skedaddling maybe the combination of all of them together right but the thing i probably but here's what i told me it all falls under the umbrella andrew of skedaddling i what what i'm telling myself is that even if i am not jogging up the really steep part of this hill thing my heart rate is like i'm sweating i am sweating profusely i am very out of breath and my heart rate is very elevated so even though i'm not running it's like what I'm doing is making me very tired. And so I tell myself that means it's OK, because usually if I go out for a jog in Portland, if I can, I try to maintain at least some amount of jogging the whole time. I try to not stop to walk or take a break if it's possible. And so the first time when I was up there in the canyon this week, I felt like, oh, I'm I'm copping out a little bit here by by walking part of it. But then I told myself, it's OK, Burbs. uh just listen to your body and also you're clearly in a state of elevated you know work mode here like your your uh your heart rate is really up there and so even if you're just walking it's making you tired so this is this is a form of exercise is what i've told myself and it's

harsher doing this kind of activity down in southern california i don't know if you like it more or less but i was telling genevieve this weekend we went on our little hike um there in packwood and i mentioned that the weather wasn't as warm and sunny as genevieve had been hoping now it was kind of i don't even know if you can call it overcast because we're kind of walking through some cloud layers i think actually walking through like this kind of mist and at times it was like it's it's hard to even call it a drizzle at times it drizzled but other times there was just so much kind of cool water in the air that like you're walking through it and your glasses are getting all kind of misted up and you touch your hair and you realize your hair is soaking wet even though it was never like a full-on downpour but it was so verdant and just you see thousands of different shades of green and even though and it was still warm you know so and we were we were walking Genevieve is a very fast hiker and I didn't want to um kind of like with you and your buddy a couple of weeks ago I didn't want to be like I didn't I don't want to be dragging her back so I was also So even when I was leading, I was like, we were like, we were mall walking our way through this, through these trails. And all of that is to say, so, you know, I was working, I was working up a sweat, but it was definitely rainy. It was not what Genevieve considered ideal circumstances for hiking. But I even mentioned to her while we were on the hike, though, I would take it a million times over any of the little hikes I did in L.A. And I did not do very many in L.A. because this is probably just a personal preference, but like something about going through a place that is so green with waterfalls and and so much vegetation. Well, I guess this specific kind of verdant vegetation, because L.A. has its own fair share of desert plants that are beautiful in their own way. But like I just never felt satisfied. It always felt like it always just sort of felt like torture. I just I didn't like that. I don't think I liked that Southern California kind of desert climate and the and the landscapes that it produced as far as like outside exercise is concerned.

Yeah, definitely. Most of the time is a lot hotter and drier. And it feels it feels like you're you're putting your body through more doing it down here. Now, today would be an exception because I believe is like one hundred and five in Portland. Oh, wow. If you can believe that. Let me just see here. I'm going to double check. So it's 84 in L.A. right now where I am, and up there in Portland, Oregon. Well, it's only 79 today. Oh, you know what? It's only going to get to 97. Tomorrow is going to be 104, Andrew, and then Friday is going to be 102. Everything's great. Yes, absolutely. Just imagine me as a cartoon dog in a house that's parked me down. Yep. Telling you that everything's fine. Hey, Andrew, I think we might have a little bit of a— Uh-oh. Yay.

TV T.O. Bragging News.

Something just came through my phone from NPR. dot org it's a double jeopardy mike richards and mayam bialik will be the new hosts of jeopardy so i guess they're splitting the job up between the conniving guy and blossom wait did blossom

have a did blossom have a tryout role i didn't even know that she got her got her turn

she did have her turn she was one of the people i think that the people who who were had very strong Support online were LeVar Burton, Mayim Bialik And then also our guy Ken Jen The person who had No support online was Mike Richards So he is now somehow Co-hosting this thing and then Mayim Bialik Will be the other host So that is I guess the That's the latest on this To be honest with you When I saw this flash across my phone as we were starting the show I just saw her name and I thought they were going to say They've decided not to go with the boring guy that nobody wanted to have the job and just giving it to Mayim Bialik, who's like a certified genius. I believe, and our listeners are probably Big Bang fans and know much more about Mayim Bialik than I do, but my understanding is post-Blossom, Mayim Bialik stepped away and became like an astrophysicist or something. She has actually a very legitimate academic career and then was drawn back into acting through the Big Bang theory. So Mayim Bialik makes sense to me as a host of Jeopardy, as would LeVar Burton, as would Ken Jen. Basically, everyone who's not the guy who's going to get to be co-host makes sense to me.

Yeah. And again, like I know that we want to consider having all kinds of people represented when we're making big, huge hires like this. But if they are going to hire a white guy, whether it's half a role or a full hosting role, I don't understand why that white guy wasn't Ken Jen. But, again, I'm not really much in that Jeopardy world, but that's pretty mind-blowing to me.

And I wonder if they saw the online kind of pushback against this guy and decided then at the last minute to try to at least mitigate that a little bit by putting somebody else who everyone kind of loves also in the position. So I guess they'll be sort of alternating. I mean, again, I'm bummed for our friend Ken because I think he would have been great. Um, but I also wonder if, if we'll just end up at a place in 10 years where this all just seems normal. Well, I mean, will planet earth exist in 10 years is a sort of larger question as, as I look forward to returning to 104 degrees in Portland, Oregon, you really, yeah, you have to ask yourself the question, does Jeopardy fucking matter? Like, will Jeopardy, will television exist in 10 years? Will, will any of us tread upon this planet? it so but no i mean like will will it just seem normal because the thing that's fun about jeopardy really is trying to answer the questions that's what i like about it i was very used to it being alex trebek because uh he had always been the host and so i liked his style his vibe even the things about him that were uh awkward i found charming and particularly when it came out that he was sick i mean i became very emotionally invested in his in what was going on with him But in 10 years, if it's this bland Mike dude or if it's Mayim Bialik, who I think is very charming, I don't know. I'll probably still watch it. I'll probably still randomly guess at things. I'll probably mostly get it wrong. I mean, I feel like life will, I guess, go on.

Yeah. I'm such a Jeopardy tourist on this topic because I didn't even watch any of these kind of tryout rounds, for lack of a better word. And I'm not a regular Jeopardy viewer, although it's been just a sort of constant presence in my entire life. But the idea of Mayim is kind of exciting to me You know, like I You know, I remember when I was a kid I liked Blossom I think I probably had a little crush on Blossom To this day, I like people wearing hats In my opinionation, I was pretty taken with her Right, how could you not be? In that front walkover that she does And she is a very interesting And she, like you said, she's become a very interesting adult I believe, I can't remember what it is She has some sort of opinions that I think rubbed Genevieve the wrong way. I can't remember exactly what they are. She's definitely not – she's not a – nope. I'm not even going to ask you because that's just – that gets too close to slander. But I can't remember exactly what her deal is. I'm pretty sure she's pro-vaccine. We're only allowed to slander one of the new Jeopardy hosts. And we've already decided it's Mike Richards. Anyway, so all of that is to say if they just said, hey, Mayim Bialik is the new host, that's pretty exciting to me. I would actually maybe tune in for the for the first episode of her reign. It seems a little muddled to me. It seems a little I I sort of I sort of doubt they went with the split co-host thing after floating the trial balloon. I don't know why that seems like especially clunky. And with the negative press.

he has gotten. I would think if it truly was a trial balloon, they would have just maybe jettisoned him and just gone with Mayim or somebody else. But it definitely seems, I mean, the idea of naming two hosts definitely seems like kind of a split decision. It seems like not everybody was on the same page. It seems like a kind of a bad idea to me. It seems clunky and clumsy. And it reminds me of, I can't think of any specific examples, but I feel like I've been In meetings before in some sort of like You know producer role where Nobody can agree so you go with Some sort of kludgy solution That just does not make sense and that's What this feels like to me but again I'd Really like to reiterate I have not Been following this closely and I don't Want to like kind of piss on anybody else's Parade if this makes sense to folks

I Know that I sort of Have been saying a version of this for the last Few shows because this has been a big topic this dude that they're giving half of the hosting job to but i'm just trying to understand that conversation in that room where they're making the decision they go okay we've got the guy who has the most wins ever in the history of the show ken jennings who also is uh you know somebody who is who's very funny and has kind of has now developed a sort of following outside of jeopardy but anyway a lot of like real jeopardy heads love him yeah and name recognition that goes a long way

in an association probably the most famous person associated with jeopardy aside from Alex Trebek would you say that that's overstating it at this point yes no I don't think it's

overstating it because he went on that wild run before that was a thing now there's other people that have actually made more money I think Holzhauer but yeah he's he's probably the most associated with jeopardy of someone who is not Alex Trebek like you said so they're in that room and they're like okay we've got this guy who's really associated with the show uh we've got lavar burton who is just a national treasure and there's nobody is ever not happy to be seeing lavar burton do anything yeah of course uh we've got mayam bialik who you know we've already said all the things about her we've got even you know fill in the blank of some of the other folks that that guest hosted and presuming they were ones who wanted the job it's like you have a pretty strong argument for any of these people except the one completely forgettable white dude who also works there. Yeah, he's in the room. Yeah. Is in no way associated with the show other than when he filled in a quote unquote the last minute after he sort of like, it sounds like scuttled someone else's guest appearance. In other words, he just he just, I said this the day this was announced or at least the day that the rumors came out strong, strong little finger vibes like did he have birds flying around the sony studio there in culver city speaking of culver city andrew uh people are getting back to us about the tattletale and the the closing of the tattletale my favorite bar in america which as you pointed out yesterday andrew very obviously of course the pandemic is what took that thing down i was just i don't i don't know that i was just supposing i well you know you got a case of the supposing because no i think you're totally right i mean the owner of the bar is probably mid 80s had been probably thinking for a long time there's it's gonna come time for me to sell this then you have a pandemic which totally shuts it down so it's not crazy that it reopened with a new concept if you will but what i was really excited about and i don't have the tweet right in front of me but i noticed that you liked the tweet as well andrew somebody tweeted a screen cap of from the movie jackie brown it's somebody named byron um uh just to bring it full circle this is what byron's saying just to bring it full circle the tattletale and the scarlet lady which is the other dive bar there's like dive bar the scarlet lady and then like a vacuum cleaner store i think in like a tropical fish place and then the tattletale one strip mall can support that much problem drinking it's kind of amazing anyway the tattletale and scarlet lady are both in jackie brown and then there's just a screen cap of Robert Forrester driving in Jackie Brown. And you just see the tattletale there and the Scarlet Lady. And I love this photo so much. Me too. Yes. I want to marry this photo. Before I saw the photo. I still have to be officially divorced from my other photo.

Before I saw the photo but just read the tweet, I thought it was going to be like some sort of internal shot, like they're sitting at a bar. And I was like, there's no way that's the bar. I can kind of picture the bar in Jackie Brown. I'm like, no way. Um, so I was a little bit dubious at first. And then of course, uh, no, it's an exterior shot as he's just driving around LA or in this case, Culver city. God, I love that movie. I just, you can take a still shot of any moment in that movie and it's art to me.

I love it so much. But also just like that sign, that tattletale sign is so iconic. Like why would you ever, even if you let's again, the business had to close COVID, what have you health stuff? Who knows? But if you're the new people taking it over, I don't understand how you would ever want to change. In fact, you know what, Andrew? If I have time, I might try to route myself. I'm leaving here today, and I'm going to be going to the airport. I'm going to see if I can route myself past the tat, not to get a drink because it'll be like 1130, but to see if the exterior has changed. Because I think the exterior is such a draw. it's like just this very kind of almost circus like looking thing it's blue and then has these like these letters of the tattletale lounge and it's like all different kinds of wood and it's just a fun looking thing like it's what drew me into that place in the first place i had this week i've talked about it so many times where i was my first week at npr and i was so overwhelmed everyone just seemed orders of magnitude smarter than me i just felt like i was totally in over my head and every day i was very stressed out and i would drive past that sign that said the title and i would think i'm going there on friday man and i did and so to get if they got rid of that i will just be shocked because that's such a cool i don't know such a

cool little um enticement into that place are you gonna try to buy the sign if it's not up there

anymore track it down and buy i wish oh my god i totally would uh if i could yeah if i could figure out how to get it in my carry-on and get it back to portland i would that's considered a personal item i believe right talk about the tsa but like um sir why do you have the letters t-a-t-t-l-e t-a-l-e in your uh carry-on all right let's take a quick break and then we come back i do actually want to talk about uh the uh the show i saw at the hollywood bowl last night my new friends that i met and also a Tim and Eric awesome show character sighting that I had on my way out of the facility Andrew that I was texting you about uh so we'll do all of that kind of coming up in a moment here on tbtl hey let's thank some donors of the day these are the wonderful generous folks making the show possible with their donations and we do appreciate it talking about eliza kurtz in katona new york julie prescott in chantilly virginia chantilly virginia it just sounds to me maybe just because chantilly lace is a thing it sounds like the whole town is covered in a lace doily and it's just very like everyone's just sitting on a porch having sweet tea getting the vapors yes and working on their latest piece of chantilly lace yeah i don't know if that's actually how it is but that's what that's the picture i have in my mind listener julie sitting there just working on some kind of some kind of doily some kind of lace project and listening to tbtl and we do appreciate it do you think there's a best buy

in chantilly like that's that seems like that'd be a crime against chantilly right you mean just like a big box store of any yeah exactly i don't know why i picked that one best buy does exist

anymore best buy i'm not sure i it's a great question i think best buy exists fries doesn't

yeah fries yeah fries clothes that's a bummer i see there's one in um fairfax virginia which

looks like it's the closest one so anyway i mean truthfully my guess is that chantilly probably has a compliment of all of those stores. It probably has a giant bed, bath and beyond and a you know, Aldo shoes and like all of that stuff. But I'd like to imagine Chantilly as some kind of very just like little quaint teeny tiny town. Sumadi Raghavan is donating from Seattle, Washington. Thank you so much for the donation. Gary Raskin is down this way. He's in Carlsbad, California, home of, I think I say this each year, Legoland and definitely Tony Hawk. Now, when we get Tony Hawk donating to the show, that's when we'll really, that's when we'll get over some kind of a hump. You know, I got to be on Wait, Wait with Tony Hawk and we were doing it in San Diego. So he just came on down from Carlsbad. And my interaction with Tony Hawk was a little bit like my interaction with Tom Hanks, which also came by way of Wait, Wait. we were just like vibing and hitting it off and chatting and being very just kind of like friendly. And there was that moment where I could have swooped in for the phone number or tried to, but I was worried that that was going to change the dynamic. Like if you ask someone very famous, no matter how much you're hitting it off with them, unless they suggest to you, can I get your number? You just can't because immediately their head starts thinking.

potentially they start thinking uh do i want to give this person my number is this going to be a hassle is the number going to get out is this person going to start blowing my phone up then they have to come up with some kind of polite way to like not give you their phone number the whole

dynamic changes um yeah but i also say no it's just it's introducing an awkwardness that i even this conversation i can't i can barely sit with right like you be me and i'll be tony hawk

say like oh hey if you know if you ever want to like grab a beer sometime we should let me can i

get your number can you say that to me okay sure sure so we're backstage at wait wait don't tell

me we're backstage but i'm on a skateboard and i'm doing um i'm on a i brought my own half pipe to the backstage at wait wait don't tell me so i'm kind of doing skateboard tricks while you're

talking to me but i'm you so i'm also on a skateboard i'm also on a skateboard and i'm kind of going back and very slow yeah and you're very worried about falling off the skateboard kind of going back and forth so okay here we go i'm luke okay hey whoa whoa whoa i got it i got Hey, Tony, could I – do you have a number or something I could reach you at? Maybe we could keep this conversation rolling. Oh, wow. You know what? Hold on.

Let me do this 520. Man, I can still nail it. Even though I'm 45 years old, I'm still one of the world's great skateboarders. I don't really give my number out to folks. It just gets weird sometimes, and I've got people blowing up my phone. And so anyway – oh, Ollie. Oh, I get it. That's the name of his son, by the way. Ollie, who's always getting into trouble. Wait, I'm still you. Ollie, get over it. That would be great if Tony Hawk's kid was named Ollie. Why is that not the case?

What's the one you always say all the time, too? A Goofyfoot? What if you all said a kid named Goofyfoot? Yeah.

Is that a decent tweet? Why is Tony Hawk's son not named Ollie? You doubted my last tweet about Amsterdam, and it's still going to miss Chris Business. I did not.

I told you I loved that joke.

I encouraged it. I laughed heartily and continue to. At what point did I doubt you? I love that joke. No, but when I said it initially on the show, probably the delay in the line, people don't realize this. And I just want to, Andrew, I just want to honor your professionalism. So nobody will hear this when this show gets out onto the Internet. But, like, I'm in this hotel room, and it's very hit and miss with these things. A lot of times it's sort of fine, but sometimes, even though this has allegedly fast Internet, what you're hearing in real time as we're having this conversation is there's a delay often. there's words are out of order or breaking up like you have and thank god i got partnered up with you for this job because you have this savant ability to piece together what i'm saying even though what you're hearing is a jumbled version of it now then later on you will go back and replace the recording i'm making here in los angeles with what you heard and so the listeners will hear what sounds like a normal show so i just want to say nice job eggplant pants i was

going to say job nice to try to mess with you well I was thinking maybe what I can do is I can find a part of the show maybe even this part of the show it broke up a couple of times there I can maybe at the end very end of the show do an Easter egg of what it sort of sounds like sometimes because I'll get you know I'm maybe getting one out of every ten words maybe some words are skipped some words are coming somehow digitally I don't know if it's really out of order but sometimes it sort of sounds out of order because I'm getting like little bits and pieces little digital bits and pieces of what you're saying so yeah I will say that yeah today is I'm kind of glad you said that only because I feel like people are going to be wondering why I'm so off my game today because but it's a connection thing so even though the listeners can't hear it maybe it does make me feel a little bit better for them to know that that's what I'm working with well so on

Monday's show when I threw out or yeah it must have been wait I don't actually I think was I was i in was i in portland so there's actually forget my theory my theory was when i said my joke about amster i think i said amster dang and i've sensed i thought you were just a little bit like you know under amused with that joke and then we talked about it more we workshopped it we got it to amster darn and then i said i made up that joke and you're like oh you made that up and then and then we put it on twitter and then you put out a joke on twitter and then we wanted to see what happens i was thinking that that that whole conversation happened on one of these lines but No, we were on our normal setup. So really, I just don't think that that joke slayed you initially. But now you recognize its value in the discourse of America and Twitter.

Huh. That's not my memory of it. But it's also not worth going over. I think because didn't it all start with you and I? We both had Wendell, the name Wendell on the brain. So I told you I had a weird and I said something like, oh, I had a weird tweet, like a weird Twitter style tweet that I was going to tweet out. And you said you had one, too. And so I thought about Mr. Wendell. Yeah, you had one about Mr. Wendell, but then also the Amster, originally the Amster Dang one came out. And then you said darn, and I think I even encouraged darn over Dang. Yes, you did. You punched it up. Yeah, so I don't remember disliking the joke. I think you just need a lot. lot i think you feel like a lot of approval or a vocal approval let's see here uh 3 486 episodes of this and you're only now realizing that hey you know who definitely approves of us andrew a matthew roberts who's in rolling meadows illinois and another of our donors of the day rolling and then beautiful doesn't that sound just lovely and then charles rose is in linwood to Washington and is also supporting the show. So thank you. Chuck E. R. He goes by Chuck E. R. I bet he doesn't. I did that the other day to someone. When somebody introduces themselves by the longer version of their name, I have to fight the instinct when I'm then referring to them. So I met somebody the other day, and they introduced themselves as Joshua. This was part of this TV stuff. And then I was talking to like a small group of people and I was saying, OK, this person do this. And then Josh, you're going to that was I'm sorry, Joshua, because I feel like nobody introduces themselves. If they're cool with Josh, I feel like they would say I'm Josh. If they say I'm Joshua, I'm taking that to indicate they would like me to use their full name, which I'm happy to do. Yeah, definitely.

I think, you know, being when I was much younger, probably even a kid, I remember, you know, God love him. I'm not trying to talk behind his back, but I think I would watch my dad do this thing where somebody would introduce themselves to him and he would immediately shorten their name or or maybe sometimes even ask if he could call him the shortened version of the name. And I was always like, well, I think that when you when somebody says my name is X, just like that's the name. Like, of course, they're going to start with their preferred name. Like, let's just start there. And maybe you get to know them later. You know what a good example is? Actually, two examples. when I was working for Madeline Brand I knew her mostly through you and through stories that you would tell me of working with her and you always referred to her as Maddie and then when I was down there I think I might have I don't think I just called her Maddie but I think I maybe straight up asked I can't call you Maddie I think that's what you go by right that's what Luke calls you and she was like no you cannot she's like that is something that Luke did like Luke you were the only person who called her Maddie and she loved you and that's why you got away with that is that your memory of that situation too i think i got that from alex chadwick who's probably the other person

who was allowed to say it i feel like i heard i heard alex chadwick say it and so then i thought maybe that's what we're doing or something but um but but yeah then i i think i realized years later that no that was just being tolerated as there as is the case so often with things that i'm doing uh with people and job situations and not doing my cyber security training it's really people now even even managers can tolerate luke like it's mostly people tolerating me uh and not so much people loving how it's going but anyway thanks to our donors of the day yes hello and welcome to top story uh we were filming at the hollywood bowl last night and i have to say andrew it was really amazing i as i mentioned earlier in the show i've seen shows there but i've only been there for like kind of loud pretty amplified rock shows i've never seen classical music perform there i guess if you consider gershwin classical i don't know i've never seen symphonic music perform there like this and it was so beautiful and there were these moments where they were like playing rhapsody in blue and they had this guest pianist and there were just these moments where there was actually silence like you know the song was had kind of slowed down and this guy is like between notes on the piano and he's playing very artfully and to hear 18 000 people being quiet at the same time was wild like it was it i've i've never felt more connected to 18 000 people than when we were all sitting there perfect i was like how is it not one person is on their phone right now or talking loudly to their friend or having a coughing fit like how is it this quiet with 18 000 people it was like it was really cool i also realized that basically symphonic music is and music like that particularly very recognizable music it's it appeals to let's just say generally speaking maybe an older set it like i was sitting in this box with a couple of people who i just met who were in their 70s and 80s and they were vibing with the music and waiting for it to build to that like the sort of very recognizable part of Rhapsody in Blue everybody in the audience is waiting for this right and it was exactly like being at a Skrillex show where everyone's waiting for the beat to drop and throw their glow sticks in the air except in this case everyone's waiting for that swell of the very recognizable part of Rhapsody in Blue and I was like this is the exact same impulse like waiting for that moment of kind of of catharsis for everyone of like it's happening the thing we're all waiting for and they did throw their glow sticks in the air during that part um they actually uh because of the mask mandate asked people not to throw their glow sticks i don't know how those are related but that's you know that's eric garcetti for you um i also just saw my phone is full of

distractions today uh oregon is also going back to a uh indoor mask mandate i can't imagine i mean i think i said to you were you were saying a few weeks ago andrew yeah we're going back to that and i was like i don't think we can ever go back to it and um turns out you were right once again so please stop rubbing it in yeah ha ha it's classic that's the sound of you rubbing it in yeah ha ha it's disturbing so i um oh the other thing i was thinking as i was watching i don't want to get on the wrong side of our listeners who play the cymbals in a major orchestras i don't know if that's a big demo for us but i don't i don't want to sound like i'm denigrating anyone's contribution but i am watching this symphony play last night and you have people on violin who i mean it's just unbelievable what they're able to do on that instrument and you you just can even begin to imagine the amount of time that's been invested in that. And same for, you know, almost every instrument, the cello, the viola, et cetera. Those people have just spent their lifetime just getting it exactly down so that they can just play anything and play in the right time and follow Gustavo Dudamel. And then I thought, you also have a guy whose job is to just clang two big cymbals together when it's time? and i was like does he make the same amount of money as everybody else and like what does symbol practice look like like how much variance is there to that like was he as a young kid just like on the symbols and just like you know his mom like my friend peter williams is an amazing cellist was was the symbol guy's mom yelling at him get on your symbols tony tony it's symbols time and And then he's like, I don't want to play baseball with my friend. He's got to go inside and go krang, krang, krang with his cymbals.

I mean, not to be no fun here, but my guess is, you know, playing the cymbals on one night is probably just one thing this percussive person does. I'm sure that they play all kinds of different percussive instruments and drums and things that take all different kinds of skill, right? In some performances they play the cymbals That would be my guess

Well I was analyzing this because I was thinking the same thing But there was a timpanist The person who plays the timpani And that was that guy's dedicated job And he was very good at that Everything sounded great and amazing Then there was somebody that was on maracas That was pretty much the only thing I saw him doing The guy on the cymbals I kept waiting to see if he was going to pick up an acoustic guitar or something, but he seemed mostly to be on cymbals. Now, you're right. Maybe he does other percussive things. But let's just say if you take the timpani out of it, which does seem like that would be maybe sort of complicated to learn. And I know, of course, that percussion is hugely important to keep the rhythm of the overall thing that's going on. So I'm not trying to say that it's not important for everybody to know what they're doing and to do a good job. but I do think honestly if my choice was be on the violin or be the guy who sometimes rubs sticks together and sometimes does cymbals and then sometimes bonks something else at a certain time it seems like an easier job to me I'm sorry and again peace and love to people that do that musically I couldn't do that either for the record I couldn't be the guy who does the cymbals I'm not musical enough for any of that but I do just see it seems like I feel like if I had to pick up a job at a symphony if they gave me two weeks to learn something symbol duty and rubbing sticks together duty those would be the ones i could do much better than playing violin if they

give you two weeks which is a weird it's weird that that's their system they give everybody two weeks they say pick an instrument um well you know that the violinists are just faking it anyway right didn't we learn that on the show yesterday it's just like a pre-recorded thing so like You know, I know I you know, I know we have musicians in the audience. In fact, I know we what would the word be a viola is that doesn't seem right.

Somebody who plays somebody who plays the viola or someone who's the fan of the work of Viola Davis. It is Viola. First of all, it's Viola, not Viola.

Anyway, I know that I believe it's Viola is in the audience. Listener Kelly. So I don't know. Maybe they have some insight on this. But I yeah, I'll lay off other than my theory that all because I think it's just say. safe ground for me to say everybody who's playing a string instrument is faking it and just playing over there's one person one time who could play string instruments they made a bunch of recordings and everybody's just been faking it ever since then well i was seated for this performance that

had such an impact on me next to a couple who were strangers to me basically what happened was the la phil gave us some place to set up our cameras to film the show and then gave us two seats to sit in in a box so it's a little it's actually very tight but it's still cool this box it's got four chairs in it and a couple of little folding tables so if you bring a picnic or something and so there was a seat for aria the producer of the piece and for me now aria was having to handle some camera work stuff because by the way andrew we we wanted to film the show we were only allowed to film 40 minutes of it total because of some union rule if we filmed more than 40 minutes if we were violating we were somehow violating the union camera people rules associated with the la fill okay so we wanted four songs that they were playing and those songs totaled 47 minutes runtime so aria was tasked with hitting pause on the recording enough times that we came in at the

40 minute mark oh interesting just hitting yeah because again you're going to be putting this together into a piece that will air on television how long will the final piece be it's five minutes Yeah. So you want your options. But, yeah, you can you can probably guess that you got what you needed in 40 minutes.

So because so she was doing that and that meant I was going to get to sit in this little box by myself. And honestly, I was thinking, OK, it's been a couple of really long days of shooting and and me doing my various jobs. I was really looking forward to just kind of sitting in this box by myself, stretching out, maybe grabbing a glass of white wine. Boy, it would be really weird if everyone called it white wine. I just make it almost seem like a totally different drink. White wine.

Yeah. I like hard white wine. We'll talk more about that later.

Oh, really? Well, that's some foreshadowing to a top story we're not going to get to. What does she say in Schitt's Creek? In the lee. In the lee. Gert Flerglinger, white wine. I thought I might get some white wine and sit there and just kind of like chill and listen to the music. And it was for me like my little reward at the end of a couple of days of a lot of work. And so I'm all excited and I get my white wine and some green olives. I only eat food that's defined by its color, Andrew. And this is literally what I got from the – they have a little grocery – I mean they have all kinds of food options, but they had a grocery store. So I got a can of white wine. I got some olives. I got what was described as a cheese plate, but it was let's just say spare. And I got a couple of waters. It was $100. Whatters. That's why they were so expensive. They were pronounced whatters. It was $100 for those whatters. Wow. So I'm going to the box, and what the person from the LA Phil had said was, you'll probably have the box to yourself unless at the last minute they sold the other two tickets. Well, of course, they had sold the other two tickets. And this is, again, these are very – like if it was you and me and Vives and Becca, this box would be awesome because we know each other. And so being in this contained area together with our four chairs would be fine. If it's two people you don't know, it is very close quarters, if that makes sense.

Especially after we're still in a pandemic and we're so used to giving everybody space. I mean I know it would be uncomfortable anyway, but especially now.

Yes, exactly. It's just like, so I walk up there with my stuff and I see these two folks sitting there and I just think, I have to be honest, I'm a little bummed because I just, I wanted to just sit and zone out and watch the music and think my deep thoughts and not get into a conversation or not be worried if I'm, again, encroaching on someone's space, et cetera. But I sit down, and there's a man and a woman, and the man is chatting. How's it going? Good. We're talking. Well, what are you doing here? Oh, well, I'm with this TV crew, and we're actually filming the show. And the guy says, oh, you know, he's like, well, I've got a story about the Hollywood Bowl. He goes, yeah, when I was 12 years old in 1952, I sold programs here for $0.10 a program. This dude, Ron, is, let's just say, he's not a tall man. He's just this little guy. He's in his 80s. I think he's like 82. I mean, his mind is sharp as a tack. He's an attorney. But he's just telling me these great stories of, like, L.A. in the 1950s and also his, like, where he grew up. It was like a dirt road, even though it was Sherman Oaks. It was like there were no paved roads in Sherman Oaks. And he's talking about how he came to love classical music from selling programs at the Hollywood Bowl and running up and down this like pretty steep set of. stairs um and that in you know and he had these he became a lifelong fan of classical music and jazz music and he'd seen like ella fitzgerald at like a small club in san francisco he's had all these amazing stories his uh his date diana uh checking in at age 71 by the way both these people spry as you can believe uh she is she was or is a psychotherapist who um they met on e harmony a year ago and there's like that's the cutest like couple i have ever seen i had such a great time talking i want to legitimately be friends with them i got ron's business card the next time i come to la i will very much look them up and want to grab a a cup of coffee with them or whatever also we end up interviewing ron for the piece because he actually had this institutional memory of the hollywood bowl that we hadn't gotten from anyone else i was gonna ask

I was like, I hope you're using him.

Yeah, we did. We at intermission, the crew came over and and and we filmed it. And he was just so great. Like he was a really I mean, he's a trial attorney. So he spent his whole life standing in front of juries and judges. So he was very good at talking. But he just was like it was just one of those moments where I mean, first of all, the show was was really fabulous. But just meeting these people who I would have never met other under other circumstances and chatting with them and really hitting it off. and they were just like lovely um also i was just inspired by this ron dude being 82 years old really all around this place i was seeing my basically my fashion inspiration for when i'm like a 80 year old maybe a 75 year old man there was just like a and granted some of this has to do with privilege and money and probably whiteness but there's just a certain kind of dude that was overrepresented this place and he was like a guy in his mid-70s who clearly was still you know at least out there walking every day kind of wearing it wearing a comfortable but well-fitting sweater or maybe a collared shirt with the sweater kind of tied around his neck and he and his wife and maybe you know adult children have a picnic basket and they just look like they're living the life I just saw a lot of guys who was like if I am if I'm if I'm living my life the way this guy appears to be living his life in 30 years I'm gonna feel pretty good about things let me ask

of this though yeah did ron leave after the fifth inning no different ron different rules

is that a show title different ron different rules no they were they were they they stuck it out they were great so i guess i don't know what the point of that story is other than to say it's every time i think that i just want to like disengage from life and and sort of just be by myself and not have to deal with humans and whatever we're about as humans i usually have an experience where i have a really nice time meeting someone new and i think to myself i want to try to i want to try to go through the world being a little more open than i typically am um i want to be as open to the experience as the musician david lieb hart is andrew from the tim and eric awesome show universe he was uh set up outside of the hollywood i didn't even realize it was him when the show was over there's a sort of mass exodus as you might imagine and a guy is just kind of making an odd noise into a microphone with a sign set up and as I get closer I realize oh this is David Liebhardt and so I start videotaping him to send to you because I know

you and Vives where did you guys bump into him it was outside the La Brea tar pits he was set up with his drawing materials and a whole bunch of CDs that he had pressed of his own music and he did

a caricature of me and Genevieve right well I just wanted to videotape I mean I was here's the thing I was planning on tipping him because I do feel like if I'm going to videotape him to sort of make my friend, I guess, laugh or whatever, just to be like, hey, guess what? Guess who I'm looking at, this guy that you also had interaction with. But he didn't know I was going to tip him. So you've seen the video, Andrew. I'm holding the camera, and he's just furiously – while he's singing, he's furiously pointing at the tip jar like, dude, you need to tip. And then he's also furiously waving me to the left. Actually, you know what? I mean, we could probably just play the audio here because I have the text that I sent you. I don't know if this will really pay off, but let's just see. I have to scroll back away from the Angry Mariners-related texts that were more recent in the conversation. By the way, I mean, we don't – What were you going to say?

No, no. I was just going to say yesterday is the day that I gave up on the Mariners. Go ahead. It was rough. I know. I know. It was. I was thinking about going to—it's amazing how there is a very clear connection between what the team does and behavior of fans, because I was seriously considering maybe going to a game by myself this weekend, and I'm like, no, I'm not going to do that, not to lose to the Blue Jays in a very important game. They just broke me yesterday. I'm done.

Yeah. I mean, you have the bases loaded, and you have Mitch Hanegar, Crawford, J.P. Crawford, and Kyle.

seeker coming up and you cannot get a run home that's zero out well paul gallant how's the how's the upgrade in the bats going paul gallant that's all i'll say about that

so that's david liebhardt he's got a panda puppet on one hand he is singing into that kind of a

headset mic and he is telling me you better tip dude and then he's also telling me get out of the way you're blocking my sign it was well what it was was an indication that david liebhardt is not um that he is certainly uh has some i would say he's probably neurodivergent like you know what i mean like he's because because most people i think most performers if someone was excited to see them to the degree of wanting to videotape them they would ham it up a little bit they wouldn't just be like you need to tip me right now and then they also wouldn't be like get out of the way of my sign like it was it was an overall very kind of aggressive reaction from him but i also know from watching the show that he's you know he's kind of on his own wavelength and so that it sort of was a kind of on brand for him then of course i was thinking is the joke i mean i tipped him uh and uh i don't want to be in a position of sort of i don't know being fascinated by somebody who is dealing with mental health issues or other things like that I don't know is the joke on David Liebhardt or is the joke on us how do you feel about us about me just being I got to videotape this dude because I've seen him on Tim

and Eric you know the answer to that question is way too complicated for me to get into with the time we have left because I don't know it's something that Genevieve and I talk a lot about too even when Tim and Eric were using these performers on their show like and we actually talked to David a little bit about that when we met him it's just very very complicated because These are performers. A lot of them had, you know, had roles on cable access television and Tim and Eric said, hey, we can give you a bigger platform and you can fit into our comedy. But even in that even in that role, you're always wondering, you know, where where exactly is the joke landing and how much are they in on it? These these folks who are dealing with all kinds of different things, but are also entertaining in their own right and want to be entertainers. So I think there's a lot of complication there. And then once you get to this point, I will say that, yeah, I totally understand him. I mean, once you're performing on the street like that, this man has had a very hard life. When we met him, whatever it was, five, six years ago, like he was pretty open about the tough times he was going through and some of the other people on that show were going through like really tough times. He also got into some – he also got into some weird talking behind people's backs. I don't remember the details. It was just kind of like a lot of ugliness. And I realized like this guy is not like reaping the benefits of having been on cable television and in a culty show for a long time. Like he's scratching it out. He's in survival mode, you know what I mean, being out there on the street and trying to make it work with a panda puppet or whatever it was. So, yeah, I always give him the benefit of the doubt.

That's a good point. Yeah. I mean I think I did too. But then I sort of – like I said, I felt – I mean he's out there performing. and he wants people to pay attention to him and to donate. But something about me videotaping him made me feel a little less than great about myself, as if it was like, here's a spectacle, and I want to share this with Andrew because it'll make Andrew laugh. But I just was trying to interrogate kind of where that motivation was coming from for me. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely.

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

All right, maybe one quick email or vmail before we get out of here before i ski daddle over to lax which does mean run jog walk

let me just do this i'm not going to read a specific email because i don't have one in front of me but i just want to do kind of a mea culpa i've already done the mea culpa with genevieve i believe definitely off air and possibly on after these messages last night but um this whole bartel bartels thing i was completely wrong about this because of things like Pike Place Market, which is sometimes referred to as Pike's Place, or Nordstrom, which is sometimes referred to as Nordstrom's, I got it in my head that Bartell Drugs was not referred to as Bartells. I thought it was just Bartell or Bartell. Oh, and the other one that somebody pointed out was Fred Meyer. You also know you're not from around here if you say Fred Meyer's, apparently. So I feel like there's a lot of that that's very specific to Seattle and the Pacific Northwest, and somehow I grouped Bartell into that, and so I had been And like on an episode of After These Messages, I had corrected Genevieve and said it's not Bartels, it's Bartel. And then I repeated that on this show, and I have received all kinds of messages across many different platforms from all kinds of people who have way more local cred than I do. Let's say people who've grown up here and lived here their whole lives who say, no, no, no, Bartels is fine. In fact, somebody, I believe, posted to Slack today a quick photo that they took out the bus window as they were passing a Bartel. And it even said Bartels. It didn't say Bartel Drugs. It was a smaller window and it said Bartels. And there happens to be a article about Bartel Drugs in the Seattle Times today because they were recently bought by another. What was it? Drug? I can't remember. They were bought by another drugstore company.

But it's not like a massive one, though, if I remember right. It's not like CVS or Walgreens. It's something that's like a medium sized place.

It might even be Ohio-based. It's not Drug Mart, but it's one that we had growing up in Ohio. I'm just blanking on it right now. I don't know why, I guess just because I'm me. But anyway, yeah, so I just want to say I was definitely wrong about that, and I'm a little humbled, too, because I was trying to flex my, like, well, Genevieve, if you want to sound like you were from around here, like me, as if she didn't move here the same damn day I did. But also, it's Rite Aid, by the way. It's Rite Aid. Rite Aid. Oh, Rite Aid is pretty big, actually. Yeah, but not as big.

It's still kind of quasi-regional, yeah. I don't blame you for that, though, because if you're going with the pattern, it's that these places that are named for someone's last name, the big move in the Northwest, like you said, the flex is to say Nordstrom and not Nordstrom's, and Fred Meyer and not Fred Meyer's. So the fact that Bartels is the one outlier is, you know, it's a little misleading. Because by those same standards, it should just be Bartel drugs. And I went down to Bartel. Is there a, hey, how far away is the Bartel? I need to go and get my amoxicillin, you know, that just seems like how it should be based on how everything else is. So I don't think that was like the biggest faux pas by you.

Yeah, but I think the me correcting Genevieve was probably like the one thing that didn't need to happen there. Hey, I have a song that's been going through my head since the very beginning of the show. It's called 1230 by Mamas and the Papas. It's the one that goes young girls are coming from the canyon. Young girls are coming to the canyon. Ian, yes, exactly, so let's go out with this, if that's okay with you.

All right, yeah, thanks, man. All right, that's going to do it for today's show. We'll be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you. It'll all be in Portland, so Andrew presumably will be able to hear at least 70% of the words I'm saying. Thanks for listening, everyone. Until then, stay safe, take care of yourselves, stay cool if you're in one of the many places back under a heat dome. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

With a clock that always said 12.30

Young girls are coming to the canyon And in the morning I can see them walking I can no longer keep my life strong And I can't keep myself from talking

At first so strange to feel so friendly

To say good morning and really mean it To feel these changes happening in me But not to notice till I feel it Young girls are coming to the canyon You'll remember the name, Herb Erflinger, Bert Hearnkeif, Erf Hermlinger, Bing Leifhanger, Leifling, Bert Hearnkeif.

You have this savant ability to piece together what I'm saying, even though what you're hearing is a jumbled verb. But now, then later on, you will go back and replace the recording I'm making here in Los Angeles. And so the listeners will hear what sounds like a normal show.

Bingo, ling f***er. Power out.