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#3488 Gallagher's Hammer
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3488 Gallagher's Hammer

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

August 13, 2021 | 01:06:18 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke is headed off to a remote cabin in the woods (without electricity) for one of the hottest weekends of the summer. Plus, Andrew is very excited that some classic De La Soul records are about to be available via streaming services.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:28 | Speaker 7:

We just gotta ask ourselves, WWJZ do? What would Jay-Z do? Yeah. He'd probably rap about it. He'd rap about it, and he'd rap about it, and then he'd pass the mic to Blake. Nah, nah, I don't want the mic. Give it to Adam. I don't want the mic either, so I'll pass it back to yours. It's back to me. I don't mind that, because I'm a R-A-P-P-E-R. Where's my car? I mean my whip, guys. Where's my whip, guys? Rapping, stopping. I don't want the mic.

00:00:28 - 00:00:38 | Speaker 1:

T-T-T-B-T-L Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is?

00:00:39 - 00:00:42 | Speaker 6:

It's Friday. Friday. Gotta get down on Friday.

00:00:43 - 00:01:05 | Speaker 2:

Everybody's looking forward to the weekend. My wife saw one of those damn planes these guys are fooling with. That puts me on the playing field. And if you'd have moved your fat feet when I told you to, we wouldn't get hip deep in snow right now. That's it. Security, you're out of here. A year ago, this is exactly what Greg Kinnear was doing. But now he has an Oscar for Sliding Doors 3, colon, Jingle All the Door. Poop, buddy, scoop, scoop, poop, poop.

00:01:05 - 00:01:08 | Speaker 1:

The story of this situation is, it's extremely personal.

00:01:11 - 00:01:17 | Speaker 4:

Alright, hello, good morning and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of TBTL.

00:01:17 - 00:01:23 | Speaker 5:

This is a serious message to everybody watching my update right now.

00:01:23 - 00:02:40 | Speaker 4:

The show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host. Coming to you from the Nest Broadcast Center, high in the sky, above hazy Portland, Oregon, where we're seeing lots of particulates in the air. The air that is, once again, going to be heated to north of 100 degrees today. It's going to be very hot. It's going to be very uncomfortable for everybody. I'm saying it's going to be like 104 or something today here in the Portland area. I'm not handling this well. So, of course, this is the perfect weekend for me to go camping in like central Oregon, where it's going to be like 103 this weekend, where there's no, of course, air conditioning. I'm going from this very comfortable climate controlled apartment that I live in To a tiny house, a tiny cabin with no electricity that is, you know, positioned in one of the warmer parts of the state. Because I, my friends, am good at planning. We've planned out a great episode of the show for you today. It's episode 3,488 in a collector's series.

00:02:41 - 00:02:42 | Speaker 5:

Let the fun begin.

00:02:42 - 00:04:21 | Speaker 4:

We've got an update on what's going on with De La Soul's music rights. Remember how we talked about this a lot, I don't know, a few months ago. how there's some weirdness around who owns the rights to de la soul's music and who can stream it where and it means it's weirdly hard to get a lot of their stuff they even recorded a whole saturday morning animated television program where they're trying to get the rights to their music back anyway we'll love can you can you verify can you give me some 411 we'll give you the latest on that also animals are smarter as it relates to arithmetic than we might have thought a hundred and fifty so years ago there was a horse in berlin named clever and clever could stamp his hoofs and do math problems for people how about like pranking an animal but then it turned out that it was kind of a scam and so then people decided animals they they don't understand arithmetic well now we're realizing they do in fact they have a concept of the number zero the numerosity of the number zero i don't think i understand the numerosity of the number zero so we'll talk about that oh and because it's a friday aka a fry yay we'll do some music for your weekend we'll do all of that with this guy the longest running cobra of the show may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships you think listening to this program that you've heard like every story that i that i have to tell every life experience and Maybe you'd think the same thing about my friend Andrew. But no, he's got whole sections of his life experience he hasn't even gotten into.

00:04:21 - 00:04:27 | Speaker 3:

For instance, this guy ran with Thaddeus Finks. He was one of the eight balls in Mookie Kramer in the eight ball.

00:04:27 - 00:04:32 | Speaker 4:

He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

00:04:33 - 00:04:49 | Speaker 6:

Good morning, Luke. You know, I hate to do this. I hate to kind of start off on an awkward foot. I got to kill the music here for a second. What did I do? What did I do today? I'm going to go back and listen to the beginning of this intro that we just played, if you don't mind.

00:04:50 - 00:04:55 | Speaker 7:

Where's my car? I mean my whip, guys. Where's my whip, guys? Rapping, stopping. I don't want the mic.

00:04:55 - 00:04:59 | Speaker 6:

T-B-T-M-K.

00:05:00 - 00:05:29 | Speaker 2:

What didn't you like about that? Well, let's see. What happens here? Guess what day it is. Oh, no. Everything's fine, everybody. Okay, never mind. I told you, Luke, before we started recording, that I have some brain cloud issues today. Yeah. And I'm not exactly sure why. Actually, the more I think about it, I think I know why. I went to bed, you know, not super late last night, like 1130. But I think because of the weather, I woke up at like 6 o'clock this morning. And chances are, I'm just like, maybe I woke up too early. You've been awake for too long today. Yeah, it's a real sweet spot for me. You've got to find.

00:05:31 - 00:05:35 | Speaker 1:

One hour and 12 minutes before Showtime is the sweet spot. Exactly.

00:05:35 - 00:05:51 | Speaker 2:

Right. You hit an hour and 13. Ugh, forget about it. Stop remembering that. You know, for some reason, I thought I hadn't picked a proper Friday mix. Of course, on Fridays, we have that alternative a cappella open. It's different than Monday through Thursday.

00:05:51 - 00:05:59 | Speaker 1:

I wonder what happened to that a cappella group, by the way. I wonder if they're still together. I wonder if they're opening for Pentatonix somewhere. Were they young?

00:05:59 - 00:06:00 | Speaker 2:

Were they teens? They were young.

00:06:01 - 00:06:28 | Speaker 1:

They were some lovely young men who had an acapella act. I forget the details. I'm guessing one was a 10, maybe. That's how they ended up on the show. But then we had them record a bunch of liners and things, too, to play for the show. And that one, somehow, 13 years later, has persisted. Nevertheless, it has persisted. and it's now how you signify from an audio standpoint, Andrew, that we are listening to a Friday edition of the show.

00:06:28 - 00:07:19 | Speaker 2:

Exactly, because as people know, on Monday through Thursday, we play this one. T-B-T-L! And then, I don't know, several years back, I decided to start messing with things, monkeying with things, as I like to say. And then I said, well, somehow I discovered, you told me that there was another version that they sang this one. T-B-T-L! And so I said, well, we can use that on Friday. And then we started the tradition of doing the Guess What Day It Is with the camel from the Geico commercial and then the people singing the Friday song. Anyway, all of that is tradition now. And for some reason, so I picked this intro early this morning and then in just – here, I'm going to get the music going again. And just listening to it, my brain sort of just glossed over all that and then you were talking and I started panicking.

00:07:19 - 00:07:26 | Speaker 1:

But you were obsessed by the notion or by the question of if you had used the right TBTL sound effect.

00:07:26 - 00:07:33 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, because the file said Friday, but I was like, but I didn't hear the Geico camel. But it turns out I just wasn't paying attention to my own shit.

00:07:33 - 00:08:23 | Speaker 1:

You just left your body for a minute, which is okay. I do it a lot. I think I have a theory of what's going on here. Yeah, what's going on. You are so excited about having probably the longest sustained amount of Andy times in a long time. I am. Your brain is just like, you're just sort of, I don't want to say you're checked out because you're not checked out. But your brain is doing funny things because you are just about to have basically almost three days of just time to yourself in the house. You, Theo, puttering, probably Madden. I don't know if that's how you get hyped for the football season. But anyway, because Genevieve is going to a group outing with a number of our friends, and you are not going to that outing, meaning you got the house to yourself this weekend.

00:08:23 - 00:08:40 | Speaker 2:

Well, you know, I'm concerned. I was concerned about Genevieve. I was going to mention this at the top of the show. I'm concerned about Genevieve and our friends and their plans. And then you just told us that you're going into a cabin in the woods without electricity.

00:08:41 - 00:08:43 | Speaker 1:

When has that ever ended badly in cinema?

00:08:43 - 00:08:45 | Speaker 2:

Do you know what day it is?

00:08:45 - 00:08:46 | Speaker 1:

A cabin in the woods.

00:08:46 - 00:08:48 | Speaker 2:

Do you know what day it is, Luke? Look at your calendar.

00:08:49 - 00:08:50 | Speaker 1:

Guess what day it is.

00:08:50 - 00:09:15 | Speaker 2:

Guess what day it is. There it is. We nailed it. It's Friday the 13th, you dingus. Hey, I know. I didn't even think about that. How about on Friday the 13th, I'm going to go out into the woods, into a cabin without electricity. My friends are all, or our friends are all going to this lake house, like a cabin by the lake on Friday the 13th. Yeah, good luck with that, everybody. Yeah, I'll be home playing a three-year-old version of the MLB baseball game is what I'll be doing.

00:09:15 - 00:09:33 | Speaker 1:

But see, what you don't understand, Andrew, is I've found the perfect tiny shed to hide in. Yeah. I think we can get everybody into the shed. I mean, it is a shed that holds a lot of, like, yard tools and things that could be really dangerous in the wrong hands. But I think if we huddle in there when things get sketchy, I think it'll be all right. I'm also considering.

00:09:33 - 00:09:35 | Speaker 2:

How many Daiko commercials can we reference?

00:09:35 - 00:09:37 | Speaker 1:

I'm considering losing my virginity this weekend.

00:09:37 - 00:09:54 | Speaker 2:

Well, I was going to say, yeah, I almost said, like, I don't want to get into your personal life in this manner at all. We had a lot of talk yesterday about polyamorous relationships and how pineapples play into that. And garden gnomes and white landscape rocks. White landscaping rocks.

00:09:55 - 00:09:57 | Speaker 1:

Rings on the wrong, quote unquote, wrong finger.

00:09:57 - 00:10:16 | Speaker 2:

But I would say, like, if you could just abstain. for one weekend. I just want you guys to all come back alive. First of all, I want you to come back alive because honestly like I need a job without you. I don't have a job. Genevieve, you know, I care for Genevieve a great deal. I want her to come home and I just think that you all are being a little silly, but

00:10:16 - 00:10:30 | Speaker 1:

whatever. Well, this has been on the books. Becca and I are going to a place called Lake Billy Chinook, which definitely sounds Billy. Billy Chinook sounds like a guy who is performing Three Nights Only at the Emerald Queen Casino.

00:10:30 - 00:10:35 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, but he plays kind of like rock and blues guitar, sort of like some pretty fire solos.

00:10:36 - 00:12:07 | Speaker 1:

Former member of Bad Company, Billy Chinook. But he still has the rights to play some of the music from Bad Company. Yeah, yeah. But he wasn't the lead singer. He was the bass player. But after a series of legal skirmishes, he's emerged with some of the IP from Bad Company. And he is going to be playing this weekend at a casino. We're going to this lake, but this has been on the books forever. And who could have known that it would also be a weekend that was ridiculously hot here in the Northwest? And so it honestly hadn't even occurred to me until like yesterday when I realized, okay, it's going to be over 100 degrees in Portland this weekend. We're going to a more central part of the state, which the further east you go in the state of Oregon, the hotter it is. And obviously there's no AC. I mean, it is near a lake, so I guess I could just sort of bask or, you know, I can I can just sort of hopefully just stay in the water the whole time. But I had not fully thought that through. I mean, I don't want I can't it would be it would be very bad form for me to cancel this trip, which has been on the books for a while in which there have been various plans made and machinations around this happening. But I very much foresee myself lying in this cabin tonight at about 11 as the temperature finally goes down to the upper 90s, thinking in the words of almost every member of the Bluth family on that one episode, I've made a terrible mistake.

00:12:07 - 00:12:55 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. You know, I had a question for you that I've been meaning to ask for a week now, and I'm kind of glad I wasn't going to bring it up awkwardly. But now that the conversation has come back around to camping and decisions, what the hell ever happened with you in Adelaide last weekend? Because I know you had a family gathering that was going to be like you're going to sleep in tents. And I know you were talking about the experience of sleeping in a tent on the show on Monday. but you also said you were going to go camping just the two of you um a second night but you were on like you're going to try to like get a be on a standby list to see if you could just walk up and get a campground and if not i think you said you were just going to walk off the trail and pinch it pitch a tent in the woods which i was thinking about that all weekend and just thinking like i don't think that's how it works what ended up happening there um what ended up

00:12:55 - 00:13:37 | Speaker 1:

happening was we just stayed two nights at my sister's property because because they have like 30 acres or something and also there had been a scheduling snafu where they it was originally my sister liz thought that they were all going to be um helping some of their neighbors out like they have even though they live in the wilderness they have neighbors and they're all like weirdly tight considering it's like a mile to the neighbors so they were going to help some neighbors out with basically a bat mitzvah they were throwing. Oh, cool. But the timing, my sister Liz was confused as to the timing, and so it turned out we could just stay two nights there, which is what we did. And I'm telling you, Andrew, this tent that I got that I then returned to REI yesterday.

00:13:37 - 00:13:38 | Speaker 2:

Oh, you did it. You did it.

00:13:38 - 00:15:50 | Speaker 1:

I did, although the guy talked me out of returning the sleeping bag, which I couldn't tell if that was because it was actually good advice or if it was because they've given the REI folks a pep talk, Like, if you can talk them out of returning the sleeping bags that we cannot resell at full price, go for it. So the sleeping bag was made for somebody who's six feet. I'm only six feet, but I felt my feet hitting the bottom of it. And I thought, this feels a little bit, a little tight for me. So I brought it back. And the guy, who was actually very nice, said, you know, you and I are about the same height. He's like, I have the same sleeping bag. And he goes, you know, we went to a training and they sort of explained in order for like body heat and temperature and things, which, of course, this weekend is not a problem. But I guess if it were wintertime, he said it's actually supposed to be, he goes, if you feel the fabric stretching, that's a problem. That means you need a bigger sleeping bag. But if you don't, then this is actually probably the right size for you, even though it feels a little weird. Like, that's the design. And I believed him because he just seemed believable. And also, I mean, the larger sleeping bag would have cost me more money. Like, I would have had to spend more. So I said, all right, you know what? I'm going camping again this weekend. So I'm going to bring this sleeping bag with me and see how it goes. But anyway, I did return the tent They're sending me the larger tent Because of course it's In a warehouse somewhere But I was going to say I love loved the tent andrew because the whole top of it is mesh you have a rain fly it's made by marmot you have a rain fly that you could put up um you know if it were to be raining or something or i guess you wanted more coverage um but if you don't put that up if it's a nice night like it was when i was uh out at my sister's place you can just lie in the tent looking up at the big dipper from inside the tent completely protected from bugs and that's pretty much it because it's not creating any temperature thing it's just i guess it's sort of like a big giant mosquito tent at that point or mosquito net but you're just sitting there looking up at the big dipper as you're dozing off to sleep i would occasionally wake up and and kind of roll over and just listen to the crickets and the bullfrogs and just observe where i was it was lovely do you speaking of stars

00:15:50 - 00:16:18 | Speaker 2:

i made up because of course genevieve and i we were not camping last weekend we were staying in a hotel, but we were in a rural part of the state, and, you know, big, beautiful sky without a lot of light pollution, and we were looking up at the stars, and I made up a constellation called Gallagher's Hammer, which I think, I would love to get that in the science books. I don't know who you know, but I would just love to get that in the science books. I mean, don't you feel like it's time for an update anyway?

00:16:19 - 00:16:27 | Speaker 1:

Absolutely. Forget this Orion bullshit. Right. You know, get at me when it's something that's a little bit more relevant to people, like Gallagher.

00:16:27 - 00:16:36 | Speaker 2:

Like, what's more relevant and timely? So are you on Gallagher Twitch, by the way? Or I'm sorry, I didn't even mean to.

00:16:36 - 00:17:27 | Speaker 1:

No, but Becca did send me a meme yesterday. We've been trading that meme that I don't know if I've seen a meme take over the Internet and Twitter in a more intense way than the my plans for the fall. Yeah, I know. The Delta variant. I mean, like it went from, oh, I saw someone doing that to like every single post I saw on Twitter was it. And so, of course, I did not I didn't decide to plan that space other than retweeting what I thought was a good one, which was my fall plans. And then it's like tens of those delicious like Danish butter cookies and they're open and you can see they have cookies in them. And then the Delta variant. And then, of course, it's the tin of butter cookies, but it has sewing supplies in it, which, if you know, you know, you grew up in the Northwest. when I did. That was just the worst. When you'd go to your grandma's, you'd be like, yes! And then you open it and nope, it's just storing pin cushions.

00:17:27 - 00:17:37 | Speaker 2:

But wait, I want to make one now. Actually, can I make Gallagher trend? What if I did make one where it says my summer plans and there's a picture of a watermelon and then the Delta variant?

00:17:38 - 00:17:50 | Speaker 1:

That's the thing Becca sent me yesterday. Oh, that's the actual thing. That's literally the thing. It was a watermelon and then it was a picture of Gallagher and it was my fall plans.

00:17:50 - 00:18:05 | Speaker 2:

I love the Delta variant I love it I love I honestly I wrote down Luke I have a piece of paper here I was trying to like talk and write Delta tweet watermelon plus Gallagher but I guess I can throw this away but I'll read but it's already happening the good news is somebody

00:18:05 - 00:19:22 | Speaker 1:

has already started this project of but I like that idea of renaming the constellations to to be kind of more updated and and more relevant because I know that I've told this story on the show before but i cannot tell you how let down i was when i went to the pacific science center in seattle as a as a kid and we were going to go into the like planetarium you know where they they sort of project all the different um constellations up into this big kind of you know dome thing yeah i was so excited for it because i had been reading about and looking at pictures of these constellations and they were amazing Gemini's like whoa dude Aries all of these different and they were like man this one has a bow and arrow hell yeah my mom told me if I look at a constellation I would see a bow and arrow so I was just like so pumped because I was thinking these stars were going to literally form these like drawings that I had seen and then when we got in there and they turned the stars on and then they said there's Gemini and I was like what and then they superimposed the drawing over it and i was like that's some damn bullshit yeah worst like that is something that was invented when there was way less fun stuff going on right yeah no i've always been

00:19:22 - 00:19:42 | Speaker 2:

disappointed in that i've never been a star watcher honestly oh we literally have a star watcher right uh who listens to the show and is often tweeting at us so i should be a little oh yeah april yeah exactly um but um yeah i've never been i've never been kind of people are drawn to the stars right i am not one of those people i don't know why i am very listen i am very drawn

00:19:42 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 1:

to the stars in fact i i i also bought these chairs at rei that are called stargazers oh because they kind of like they they like recline they're they're like a folding camp chair but they have this kind of tricky mechanism built into them where you can actually like lean back and lie not quite

00:19:59 - 00:20:29 | Unknown:

Thank you.

00:20:00 - 00:21:01 | Speaker 2:

horizontally but you can kind of lean way back and look at the stars now that's all well and good the problem is what i did not realize until i got the chairs out of their little case and kind of assembled was they kind of look like gamer chairs which peace and love to our gamers including you andrew but gamer chair that's not the aesthetic like you know that gamer chair that's like popular now that's like tall and got lots of ergo support and usually has some kind of like it almost looks like a race car now it's got a lot of red involved in it and it's just like it is fully committing to the fact that you're going to be in that chair for 12 to 16 hours gaming up a storm and again that's great for the people who like to do that that's not like if you come into my house you don't see a lot of stuff that is in that kind of style and so these stargazer chairs which i was stoked about because i didn't own any camp chairs well that's not true but they're in bellingham And so I was like, these will be great. And then we got them all put together, and I was like, these do look like the equivalent of I'm going to game the stars.

00:21:01 - 00:21:04 | Speaker 1:

You didn't see what they looked like? You didn't see a picture of them before you bought them?

00:21:04 - 00:21:25 | Speaker 2:

Well, I sat in one at REI, but it was gray, and then I had inadvertently grabbed one that was red. Oh, I see. Oh, okay. When I took it out of the package, and so that was part of it, too. I guess I could have swapped it also for a gray one, but I just felt like I did feel bad. like REI is not hurting as a company financially but I was like maybe don't bring back everything you purchased

00:21:25 - 00:21:33 | Speaker 1:

sure yeah wow they have a I'm looking at various ones here so the one you have is it mostly black with some red lining around it yes yeah I have well I have two of them

00:21:33 - 00:21:37 | Speaker 2:

okay one's gray and one's you know one's with the red accents

00:21:37 - 00:21:49 | Speaker 1:

and there's one though called plasma practice that is like this like kind of this blue it looks like something from flashy Dan's or Dan Flashes Is it Dan Flashes? It's very complicated.

00:21:49 - 00:22:06 | Speaker 2:

Flashy Dan. That's funny because it's such a different joke. I know, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I never thought of that, though, because that's clearly what they're trying to do is they're talking about kind of how you're flashy with these shirts. We're talking about, I think you should leave season two now, which I'll say 21 minutes and 57 seconds is a record for us.

00:22:06 - 00:22:08 | Speaker 1:

Not so far. We've made it into the show. You're right.

00:22:08 - 00:22:12 | Speaker 2:

But you're right. If they called it Flashy Dan's, it would be like the joke would be less funny.

00:22:12 - 00:22:13 | Speaker 1:

Yeah.

00:22:13 - 00:22:20 | Speaker 2:

Because it's too on the nose, right? But Dan Flashes, it sort of subtly creates that sense in your mind, but not in such an overt way.

00:22:21 - 00:24:16 | Speaker 1:

I'm following this account that was brand new, like literally on Monday. I think it was a brand new account that I stumbled on on Instagram where it was it's called I Think You Should Peaks, where they were taking twin peaks scenes and then adding the dialogue text, you know, memefied at the bottom of lines from I Think You Should Leave. And I got to say the first couple were brilliant. And then, like, I kind of did something I don't often do, which is I kind of, like, re-grammed it. I don't know. I kind of, like, shared it in my stories and said, hey, follow this account. And I think some of my followers did start following it. But now, like, they got some traction on their first day because they released a couple of funny ones. And now it's like I wake up in the morning and this account has just, like, posted 100 new ones. And it's kind of like at a certain point you're just grabbing text and throwing. It's like not everyone is a perfect fit. You know what I mean? I'm very much a less. As listeners know, I'm very much less is more when it comes to, well, saying things that are funny or interesting. I say it less and people want it more. But anyway, it's just it's like, wow, now you're really flooding the zone. And I don't want to unfollow because there's still some funny stuff in there. Like the other day, they show I don't know how well you remember Twin Peaks, Luke, or if you ever watched all the way through. But there's a psychiatrist who was, like, Laura Palmer's psychiatrist who's a real kind of a – well, they're all kind of whack jobs in their own way. But he wears very loud shirts, and he's kind of an ex-hippie-looking guy with, like, small little round-tinted sunglasses and kind of big hair. And there's just a picture of him, and it just says, yeah, I got this one for $150 or something. And it's like, that was perfect. That one, whatever they matched up was absolutely perfect. But, like, now they're just grabbing every line. It's almost like a randomized machine and just throwing it on a picture from Twin Peaks. And I've got to say, man, dial it back because there is some really funny stuff in there. But don't wash it all away with just randomness.

00:24:17 - 00:24:24 | Speaker 2:

Lawrence Jacoby. Yeah, right. Dr. Jacoby. I was looking this guy up on the Internet because I wanted to. This guy looks like he could be Jack Black's cousin.

00:24:26 - 00:24:26 | Speaker 1:

Oh, interesting.

00:24:26 - 00:24:59 | Speaker 2:

As I look at the photos of him combined with Bob Ross from The Joy of the Teaching. Yeah, definitely the Bob Ross thing. Speaking of saying less, Andrew, I feel like my local public radio station here in Portland could have said less yesterday. So I was driving around. I'll probably meet some of these people someday. It's weird. When I was in Seattle, maybe because I used to work at KUOW, I had a pretty friendly relationship with that station, and I kind of knew most of the people there. I don't have that relationship with OPB here. I mean, I listen to it every day, but I just don't really know anyone there.

00:25:00 - 00:26:01 | Speaker 1:

But it's not out of the realm of possibility that I'll meet them at some point, and so I should probably be sort of careful. But one of the local hosts yesterday said, you know, it's going to be 104 degrees today. Here are some tips for staying cool. And this host, with a straight face, presumably – I couldn't see her. I could only hear her – said, tip number one, try to stay indoors where there is air conditioning. Okay. With a straight face Somebody got on the radio and said Got some tips for you about staying cool Tip number one Stay indoors where there's air conditioning Isn't that Almost I don't know if insulting is the right word What do you think Goes through a person's mind When they're reading you a list of tips for staying cool And the first one is Be somewhere where it's cool Right, that's not super helpful That's not a tip And in fact

00:26:01 - 00:26:03 | Speaker 2:

Move somewhere where it's not so hot

00:26:03 - 00:27:04 | Speaker 1:

In fact none of the tips were great That was the most galling to me And it was also the first one But then the other ones were like Notice the signs of heat stroke Including sweating Nausea And feeling extremely warm Yeah I mean maybe I guess I'm trying to imagine Somebody having heat stroke I mean I guess The question there would be Is what I'm feeling Just I'm a little overwhelmed A little warm or am I in medical danger And so maybe that one's kind of useful Because you're explaining to someone There is a medical danger to being too hot And you need to be aware of it So I'll give them that one Another one was like check up on people you know That are elderly or would have a difficult time In the heat which that's a good one That's just like a nice public service reminder Just to keep everybody in mind so they didn't all suck but stay indoors where there's ac i just i couldn't i just felt so

00:27:04 - 00:27:18 | Speaker 2:

patronized at that moment from the local host i also think that is like a sign that you might be warm is you feel warm that's that's a doozy too i would say that was number four yeah yeah exactly

00:27:18 - 00:27:53 | Speaker 1:

i also think that that just comes from i don't envy this job by the way of being a local you You know, either local public radio host or even local, I guess, commercial radio host. You know, we both used to work at that station in Seattle. There are just those days where the story is the heat. But there's only so much to say about it. And you're supposed to be – you're trying to provide some sort of public service. There is this moment of where you're just keeping the needle moving for hours and hours a day, unless you're KUOW and you're taking a step back from local programming, by which I mean increasing your local programming. But if you're a different station, if you're like –

00:27:53 - 00:28:03 | Speaker 2:

Somebody's been reading the KUOW press releases. What if you're if you're cutting four hours of programming and that means you're increasing your commitment to local programming that must be a KUW press release.

00:28:03 - 00:29:14 | Speaker 1:

But like you know there's just that moment where or there are just those moments where you're you're saying something not because it's actually probably enriching anyone's life but because you just sort of have to because it's the big story and you got to say something you got to talk about something when you crack that microphone. And so what it's going to be is tips for staying cool. Tip number one, stay indoors where there's air conditioning. Really? You don't mean to lie in the sun? Should I actually go find a piece of concrete that is in the most direct sun and lie down? What am I supposed to do with all these black turtlenecks and long pants? I don't get it. Exactly. I don't even know if this bit exists anywhere online anymore. But whenever I see a segment about beating the heat, I can't help but think about a Daily Show bit that Steve Carell did, which it's wild to think that that's kind of where Steve Carell got his start, at least publicly, because he's done so many things since then. But, you know, he was a correspondent on The Daily Show a long time ago, and it was a really, really hot day in New York City. And so they sent him out to do a segment. But instead of beat the heat, his segment was about greet the heat.

00:29:14 - 00:29:16 | Speaker 2:

No, I think I remember this right.

00:29:18 - 00:29:38 | Speaker 1:

First of all, that just made me laugh, the idea that you want to greet the heat instead of beating the heat. And then just the stuff he was doing was just so ridiculous. I don't know if it holds up. I think it involves some kind of cut-off jean shorts he was wearing. I do think he might have been rolling around on the cement. Maybe that's part of where that thought came into my head.

00:29:39 - 00:29:59 | Speaker 2:

Well, I'll do a little. I'm actually looking. I don't know if you're doing the same thing. I'm looking to see if I can find it if it lives online, but it must have been so long ago. But if you are someone who is sick of the usual cliches about the heat, hot enough for you, you can fry an egg on the sidewalk. You're sick of that kind of stuff. Today's.

00:30:00 - 00:30:56 | Speaker 4:

newsletter which will be going out in a few hours here offers some alternative uh conversation and idioms that you can use to talk about the heat without saying the same thing you've been hearing for years and years and years i love it i'm doing some services over here too also i only have two goals we're going through our review process now our employee review process and um i just wrote two goals increase tbtl numbers and increase uh tbtl newsletter numbers and uh our new boss said yeah we should do that let's increase those uh newsletter numbers so if you want to see me have a good review process uh next year uh just do me a solid you know sign up for the newsletter i don't care if you read it i like they can tell if you open it so open it but i don't care if you read it or not sign up like i don't know you probably got cousins pets like whatever just like sign up for the newsletter let's bump these let's juice these numbers it reminds me of a great song

00:30:56 - 00:31:44 | Speaker 3:

written by jason tractenberg of the tractenberg family slideshow players where they came across so the story on that on that band was it was a family uh the their daughter rachel who's now like 27 but back then was very little played the drums the dad sang uh and played guitar and the mom tina trachtenberg pina uh handled the slide projector they would find old slides boxes of slides at garage sales and things they found one that was a a meeting that mcdonald's corporate had with its franchisees about you know growing the the brand and their restaurants and there was one slide that was let's not have the same weight as 1978 let's have more wait let's not have the

00:31:44 - 00:31:45 | Speaker 4:

same weight as 1978.

00:31:45 - 00:32:32 | Speaker 3:

And I don't think they meant weight in terms of people. I think it was weight in terms of some sort of – that was a measurement of some sort of product, like amount of product they were moving. Oh, okay. Like it was W-E-I-G-H-T. But again, it was – it didn't have to do with anyone's physical weight or – it was somehow an encouragement to sort of grow the brand. I don't know why they were using that term, but I just remember the song, let's not have the same weight as 1978. Let's have more. And I just thought that's just the greatest slide to sort of explain corporate America. Let's not have the same as whatever we had in 1978. Let's increase that. Let's do more, yeah. Do you have any other tips and tricks for staying cool? Here's a tip for growing your business. Let's do more of the business next year than we did in 1978.

00:32:34 - 00:32:49 | Speaker 4:

Hey, I don't know if you're interested in this or if it'll hold up at all as audio only, But you've mentioned this beat the heat, greet the heat thing before. I did find the audios from 2001. Can we take a listen? It's introduced by a very young Jon Stewart. Let's take a listen here.

00:32:49 - 00:33:11 | Speaker 1:

And ever since the last Ice Age, summers existed in one form or another. But despite all our technological advancement, we haven't figured out a way to successfully combat, or perhaps I should say beat, the heat. Well, let's be the first news organization to devote airtime to this noble crusade. And tonight, our own Steve Carell offers some invaluable tips.

00:33:16 - 00:33:24 | Speaker 2:

Phew, in August, it gets pretty darn hot pretty darn early. So the first thing you have to remember is to always dress appropriately, like so.

00:33:25 - 00:33:35 | Speaker 4:

So he snapped his fingers, and you're right. Now he's wearing jean shorts and a T-shirt with, like, the sleeves kind of cut off. And it says New York, and it's got number 31 on it.

00:33:35 - 00:33:50 | Speaker 2:

Whoa, say, that's more like it. Wear something that's light and comfortable, but be creative. I've chosen to wear number 31 of the New York team. And if anyone ever asks you, how short is too short when it comes to your shorts? I say, not short enough.

00:33:52 - 00:34:13 | Speaker 4:

All right, he's strolling down the street. He's greeting people. He really looks the part. He's wearing dress shoes with these cut-off jeans. He's doing little spins What's the French word for a spin? He's doing one of those Pirouette He's doing a pirouette Is this working his audio?

00:34:13 - 00:34:37 | Speaker 2:

Stylish summer garb Won't do the trick When it comes to those Dreaded dog days of summer Do you know why They call them the dog days? We'll have that answer for you A little bit later on But first Let's take a nice refreshing dip In one of your community's Beautiful, well-maintained Public swimming pools Ah, the water looks inviting. That is a bubbling cauldron of urine. What the hell are you doing?

00:34:37 - 00:34:40 | Speaker 4:

Jesus. He just pulled a used condom out of him.

00:34:40 - 00:34:52 | Speaker 2:

If the crowd at the pool has got you down, or it's been closed due to health violations, don't worry. The human body is very resilient. Here are two words that'll be magic to your now-burning ears. Ice cream.

00:34:53 - 00:35:00 | Speaker 4:

He's pouring sweat. Although I will say, I don't know if I should keep going on this. We're not even halfway through, but this is... This is...

00:35:00 - 00:35:03 | Speaker 3:

literally taking the piss out of the type of segment you were talking about.

00:35:03 - 00:36:16 | Speaker 2:

Yes, I think which is why I loved it so much because as we've already said and as Jon Stewart even indicated, it's like those local segments about beating the heat are just, they have almost no informational value at this point. Well, you can go swimming in a swimming pool or eat ice cream. I think those are helpful hints. It's funny because we were talking about Mayim Bialik and the Jeopardy connection and how I felt weird to me when they said on NPR, best known for the Big Bang Theory. Yeah, yeah. Because I so associate her with Blossom just because of how old I was when that show came out. It was a big deal. But like I said, when I mentioned this segment with Steve Carell, it is wild to think of how many things Steve Carell has done since this segment. Almost exactly 20 years ago, Andrew. It's August of 2021. He did this in August of 2001. We could be within like a few days of the literal 20th anniversary of this piece airing on television. And in those 20 years, Steve Carell has starred in The Office, starred in many films, has just become, in my mind, a national treasure. And the fact that he was on The Daily Show is like it's so far down his resume now. It's hilarious.

00:36:16 - 00:36:35 | Speaker 3:

And I think of Colbert, too, who, you know, I just I could not hold that guy in higher esteem. But, like, Genevieve and I still love this old show with Amy Sedaris called Strangers with Candy. And, you know, he just plays Mr. Noblet, right? He plays Mr. Noblet in that. Principal Noblet. No, no, no. He's a teacher. It's Principal Blackman. Oh, he's a teacher.

00:36:35 - 00:36:37 | Speaker 2:

Oh, Onyx Blackman is the principal. Sorry.

00:36:37 - 00:36:50 | Speaker 3:

Exactly. I'm the obtuse man. Wait, hold on. What is it? Do you know that line? That Onyx says? Yeah. I'm an obtuse man, so I'll try to be oblique, I believe. That's like a classic.

00:36:51 - 00:36:53 | Speaker 2:

That's exactly the dialogue from that show.

00:36:53 - 00:37:00 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, here. I think I got it here. I'm an uptuce man, so I'll try to be oblique. I guess it's exactly what I just said, but it's better to hear his voice.

00:37:01 - 00:37:38 | Speaker 2:

God. Oh, you're right. I mean, yeah, Stephen Colbert in that. Well, that's where we know you're good at lying. That bit where Knoblet is giving Jerry a lie detector test is so genius. Do you have that full thing somewhere? I just saw it on TikTok the other day. And it's like every time he asks Jerry a question Like what's your favorite animal And then she says like puppies And she goes snakes It's like The idea that Everything Jerry likes Is the thing that you're not Supposed to like That show is really brilliant

00:37:38 - 00:37:44 | Speaker 3:

I'm not joking here this is not a set up Like my Hilarious weekend joke

00:37:44 - 00:37:47 | Speaker 2:

An interview with singer songwriter

00:37:47 - 00:38:29 | Speaker 3:

of the weekend i actually have an interview here no do you know though and i didn't know this when i was watching it for the first time that her character that jerry blank character is based on a real person somebody who was like you know making the wrong decisions in life and then turned her life around and i'm not joking the reason i'm thinking of this now is i grabbed a piece of tape i don't know the um flory fisher oh did you know this or are you just no i googled Okay, gotcha. So I have a piece of tape here, 12 seconds long, that I think I used as a drop one time. It's called Strangers with Candy, Original Lady, Easy Newspapers. I don't know if this will pay off, but this is honestly tape of the person that Jerry Blank is based off of. The Weeknd.

00:38:30 - 00:38:42 | Speaker 1:

Do you think this is easy for me? My name is splashed all over the papers. I'll be on TV, National Network. Do you think they like it? They don't like it, but they're proud of me now.

00:38:43 - 00:38:44 | Speaker 3:

Anyway, that's it. I don't know if it really paid off.

00:38:44 - 00:38:53 | Speaker 2:

Hey, what about this one? This is another one that's online. The Trip Back, PSA, inspired Strangers with Candy. Oh, great. I think this might be the same person. Yeah, I'm sure it is.

00:38:54 - 00:39:10 | Speaker 1:

I drop a dime on him. I put a 10-cent stamp in an envelope, put his name and address on it, and drop it in the mailbox. Somebody will take it up from there. But you have to do it. If somebody did it to me, I wouldn't be here talking to you like...

00:39:10 - 00:39:17 | Speaker 2:

I'm noticing, by the way, Flory Fisher, this is exactly what Jerry Blank looks like in the show.

00:39:17 - 00:39:18 | Speaker 3:

Kind of a gaunt face, sort of.

00:39:18 - 00:39:37 | Speaker 2:

Well, and also just the outfit. The outfit, the hairstyle. Like, this is basically proto-Jerry Blank. I did not know that, Andrew, and I'm glad that 25, 26 years later, I'm finally learning that little dazzling detail about the show Strange with Candy. And again, people think this show is just about OSHA. No.

00:39:37 - 00:39:41 | Speaker 3:

we're about so much more than just OSHA and Miller's Crossing

00:39:41 - 00:40:03 | Speaker 2:

alright let's take a quick break and then when we come back we'll do these top stories and we'll do some music for your weekend in a moment stay with us it's TBTL Thank you, baby.

00:40:30 - 00:40:33 | Speaker 1:

Thanks to Heidi Festin, who's in Bonny Lake, Washington.

00:40:34 - 00:40:34 | Speaker 2:

Thank you, Heidi.

00:40:34 - 00:40:40 | Speaker 1:

And Stephen Gardner in Port Orchard, Washington. Thank you, Stephen. And, yeah, thank you, Stephen.

00:40:40 - 00:40:47 | Speaker 2:

I'm going to just do that for everybody, okay? Don't let me mess up your rhythm, but I'm going to say a little. Love it. Okay, so I'll just let you, but just. I'll just, you can keep going. I'll just say it in the background.

00:40:47 - 00:40:58 | Speaker 1:

Okay. I'm going to start over then, now that I know this is the system. Okay, cool. I want to thank Heidi Festin in Bonny Lake, Washington. Thank you, Heidi. Stephen. Wait, it's messing me up.

00:40:58 - 00:41:00 | Speaker 2:

You have to stop. Okay. I'll say it in a different voice each time

00:41:00 - 00:42:03 | Speaker 1:

When I worked on the show Rewind Which it's funny we were talking about the Daily Show Before the break Because the way that we sort of tried to describe Rewind It was like a public radio satire show But we would often say it's sort of like the Daily Show of radio But it was so much harder to do I mean not that the Daily Show was easy to execute But it was especially hard Because on the radio you have so many fewer Sort of tools In your toolbox for comedy Of course that's also the show Famously where my mom said you guys should try to do more funny Stuff Which I always really appreciated But we tried something One time that was called the audio crawl Because that was right When like the crawl came out on like CNN and stations like that where You know Wolf Blitzer is talking about whatever But then below him is a screen of information It's like a running thing of information Now that's a given on every station But I think it was like Bill's talking And then I don't know if it was like John Moe or it wasn't me, but it was somebody else who was just also just a little quieter, just saying a bunch of other stuff.

00:42:03 - 00:42:07 | Speaker 2:

Just kind of mumbling, kind of quietly and like in the background or foreground.

00:42:08 - 00:42:14 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, like what you were doing. Except it's weird. It's oddly hard to keep talking when you're hearing someone else. Yeah, I'm going to short it.

00:42:14 - 00:42:53 | Speaker 2:

I'm going to do this. I'm going to just go, thank you. It's like from a Mr. Show skit. At the end, it was called Megaphone Crooners was the skit. I've had a lot of Mr. Show on the brain lately. I don't know why. Yeah, yeah. And it's just kind of like Don't get into a meme war with you Regarding Mr. Show I know But one of the guys' thing They were kind of recreating The rap battles of the 90s But with megaphone crooners Of like I guess The early 19-teens or whatever And so they were drawing a comparison there And so these guys would go out And they would sing their songs Through their megaphones But one guy's shtick was He would say thank you At the end of his thing So I'll be the I'll just say thank you Okay

00:42:53 - 00:42:59 | Speaker 1:

By the way, Heidi, this is the third time we've done your name, and that does mean you need to triple your donation. I'm sorry. I don't make the rules.

00:43:00 - 00:43:01 | Speaker 2:

That's the cash register.

00:43:01 - 00:43:07 | Speaker 1:

There's a little quantitative easing here on the show. Heidi Festin of Bonny Lake, Washington.

00:43:08 - 00:43:08 | Speaker 2:

Thank you.

00:43:09 - 00:43:11 | Speaker 1:

Stephen Gardner is there in Port Orchard, Washington.

00:43:12 - 00:43:12 | Speaker 2:

Thank you.

00:43:13 - 00:43:17 | Speaker 1:

And then Ann Hamada checking in from Walla Walla Wah.

00:43:17 - 00:43:18 | Unknown:

Thank you.

00:43:18 - 00:43:25 | Speaker 1:

Nigel Herbig of Kenmore, Washington, one of our local politicians. That's right. Mr. Manager.

00:43:25 - 00:43:26 | Speaker 2:

Thank you.

00:43:27 - 00:43:31 | Speaker 1:

Edward Madsen is in Milton, New York.

00:43:31 - 00:43:31 | Unknown:

Thank you.

00:43:32 - 00:43:38 | Speaker 1:

And then Emily Maurer is in Chicago, Illinois. Thank you. Thank you to Emily.

00:43:39 - 00:43:40 | Speaker 2:

Thank you.

00:43:41 - 00:43:41 | Speaker 1:

Edward.

00:43:41 - 00:43:42 | Speaker 2:

Thank you.

00:43:42 - 00:43:43 | Speaker 1:

Nigel.

00:43:43 - 00:43:43 | Speaker 2:

Thank you.

00:43:44 - 00:43:44 | Speaker 1:

Anne.

00:43:44 - 00:43:45 | Speaker 2:

Thank you.

00:43:45 - 00:43:46 | Speaker 1:

Stephen.

00:43:46 - 00:43:46 | Speaker 2:

Thank you.

00:43:46 - 00:43:51 | Speaker 1:

And Heidi, for keeping TVTL going. We really do appreciate it.

00:43:51 - 00:44:00 | Speaker 2:

I enjoyed that way more than I should have, I've got to be honest with you. I think, unfortunately for you, I really enjoyed that. Look for more of that character.

00:44:07 - 00:44:18 | Speaker 1:

Hello, and welcome to Top Story. All right. What's the latest with the De La Sol's music? and who gets to play it where and when, Andrew?

00:44:18 - 00:45:00 | Speaker 2:

I feel like this is a very complicated story that I don't have all the ins and outs on. All I know is I feel like a rich man because I have a couple of De La Soul CDs that I just bought in the 90s, right? Or maybe the early 2000s, probably bought them used. And I learned in the past few years that those are rarities now. Like you cannot buy De La Soul CDs anymore and they are not on any of the streaming services. Now, when I say not on the streaming services, they are still – there's still a going concern. They're still making new music. So I think like the last two or three Dela albums are on the streaming services, but I'm unfamiliar with that music, right? Like when I think of Dela, I think like the –

00:45:00 - 00:45:27 | Speaker 1:

The first five or first four records are the ones that really I think that the as you say, the real heads, you say these things that like I just like somehow you start saying a word a lot, Luke, and then it erases my ability to remember what I would say before I knew that slang term. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know what I would have said before you started saying real head all the time. I would have had a different word there, but it's gone. And now I'm just saying real head and probably misusing it as well.

00:45:28 - 00:45:40 | Speaker 2:

No, I doubt it. What was the thing that I said yesterday? I think it might not have even been on the show, but I said something. Oh, digital. Digital. Oh, yeah. Everything goes back to the Mr. Show universe on this program.

00:45:40 - 00:48:39 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's right. That's like the Mr. Show when they did kind of a reboot of that a few years back. They were doing an imitation of that futurist. What's his name? Changi or Chingi? The real world Chingi maybe? Anyway, yeah, I broke your brain with that one too, digital. But anyway, point is, there are four like really, really appreciated kind of iconic De La Soul records, three of which were produced by Prince Paul. And that's relevant because Prince Paul was the guy who also kind of introduced the idea of just bringing in all kinds of samples, like tons and tons of samples into hip hop. That was kind of his thing. But Tommy Boy Records, their original label, like going back to the late 80s and early 90s, they were not apparently doing a good job of clearing all of the rights of that stuff. And to this day, it's still kind of a blame game. And Prince Paul blames the record label, the record label blames him. But because of all of these legal wranglings, the music ended up just not being available because Tommy Boy, as it existed in, you know, in the 2000s, did not have the wherewithal or interest in trying to untangle all of these legal things and then making the music available. So they just stopped pressing CDs and they didn't put it on Spotify or iTunes or Apple or anything near the end, I think. And this is where you kind of got into the into the fight, the schism between the band and the record label. You mentioned that they made an appearance on a Cartoon Network show last year, I think, to kind of shine a light on their struggles. Like Tommy Boy said, OK, we can we can figure out a way to release your music on the streaming services. But like we're going to keep 90 percent of the of the profits or something. And Dale, I was like, well, they said this. No, thank you. Because that was not a good deal for them. They said it exactly like that. The character is evolving in a press release. Well, it's got depth. Yeah, it does. And so apparently and this is what I did not realize. But Tommy Boy was recently just bought by a different label. Reservoir music? Exactly. And Reservoir Music apparently is saying, oh, yeah, we can do this. Don't worry about it, guys. We're going to get you back on the streaming services, which I thought there's a really funny quote in one of these articles I read. Pasta News, I believe, one of the members of Dela was like, yeah, I don't know. I've never listened to anything on streaming. I don't know anything about that shit, but I'm glad we're going to be there for our fans. So I guess we know who won't be listening to Dela on the streaming services, and it's Dela, but they're excited because their music will be accessible again. Like, I have, like, those four De La Records, Luke, I listen to them in a way that I don't listen to any other music right now, which is I had to download them from the internet, or actually I had a couple of them, so I just, like, scanned my CD into my computer, like the old days, and I actually have the MP3s saved on my phone, and I just listen to it with, like, whatever the native music-playing app on an Android is, which is not the most easy way to listen to music. But it's, like, the only way I can, like, take my De La Soul to go unless I got myself a Discman.

00:48:39 - 00:49:14 | Speaker 1:

So this is pretty cool. Although I will also say, will it take away some of the specialness a little bit? Right. I got to say, as much as I'm excited and have been bummed in the past, as much as I'm excited that it will be available for more people to listen to and for De La to get paid for the brilliant art they made, I think that I probably got a little bit of a perverse kick out of having a couple of things that are rare and having to go through these hoops because you know me I don't like anything unless it's difficult so like kind of going through these hoops to listen to it made it feel a little bit more special maybe

00:49:14 - 00:49:26 | Speaker 2:

yeah it was like you you were a poor man's version of Martin Shkreli with that one copy of Wu-Tang but just like instead of a million dollars you paid twelve dollars right and also I will sell you an

00:49:26 - 00:49:28 | Speaker 1:

Advil for a million dollars if you're

00:49:28 - 00:50:20 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, it sounds like what happened was probably over the years, whoever was in charge of this negotiation at Tommy Boy was just annoyed with De La or De La's reps. Right. And I would assume it was their reps. And so they probably there was a certain amount of actual personal either hurt feelings or just lines in sand being drawn where it's kind of like we can't we can't, you know, capitulate on this if you're probably on both sides. There's just probably like sometimes you get into a negotiation and there's just like. You just hit a sort of impasse, and then you get somebody new in there, this new ownership group, and they're like, well, we don't really care. Here's the numbers. Looks like we could stream. We'll probably make this amount. They'll make that amount. And it was a number that Dela was more agreeable to, and they just got it done. It just needed a change of people involved in the negotiation.

00:50:20 - 00:50:33 | Speaker 1:

And also, Dela had basically been at odds with Tommy Boy from the jump. Their very first record, which I think is Three Feet High and Rising, had a couple of their biggest hits ever on it. And it was like that whole like – I can't remember what they called it.

00:50:33 - 00:50:36 | Speaker 2:

It was originally Five Feet High and Rising and Tommy Boy took two of the feet.

00:50:37 - 00:52:06 | Speaker 1:

But it was like – I think they called it the Daisy Age or whatever. And it was like this sort of almost hippie-inspired hip-hop, kind of almost flower power-y. And it wasn't like a lot of the other stuff, the more like kind of like tougher hip-hop you were hearing at the time. But then if you ever look at their second, the cover of their second record, which is called De La Soul is Dead, they're immediately biting back or punching back at Tommy Boy. The album cover is an image of a potted daisy in a pot that has fallen over and cracked and dirt is spilling all over the place because they were actively trying to resist the sort of like hippie image that Tommy Boy was trying to sell them under. And then their third record, sorry, now I'm just going off, but I think it's really interesting to listen to, not to listen to me talk about, their third record even takes it a step further. It's a straight on, like almost every song in some ways addressing the bad relationship they have with Tommy Boy and how Tommy Boy is just trying so hard to, they don't ever call them out by name. But it's all about, like, you know, them trying to reclaim their identity and have some artistic freedom and not just be kind of, like, softened up and kind of white-ified by Tommy Boy. Like, Tommy Boy, apparently, for that third record, they were trying so hard to make it appealing to white audiences, and that's what De La Soul is addressing in that third record. So, anyway, I hear myself talking a mile a minute. I've had too much coffee. I really like this band, but I'll shut up.

00:52:06 - 00:52:19 | Speaker 2:

Do you realize I've never I never put this together until this moment, but we're basically the de la soul of podcasts in that we spend a lot of time criticizing our actual bosses.

00:52:20 - 00:52:22 | Speaker 1:

OK, sure. Mostly over cybersecurity.

00:52:22 - 00:52:40 | Speaker 2:

I mean, it's like, you know, I'll see your tipped over flower pot and raise you a it's disrespectful to us to make us take a three hour cyber training, cybersecurity training. Oh, by the way. I also this show is very hard for people to find it's an extremely boutique experience I cut the

00:52:40 - 00:53:36 | Speaker 1:

hell out of our because people were on slack yesterday talking about our yearly griping and complaining on the show about cyber security training and Luke I gutted that segment so much I think I cut people were still in other words people were critical of the edited version yes and dude I edited that more than I've ever like it's so rare I should have heard the first it is legitimately so rare that i cut things out of tbtl but it was just like i felt like i was being negative on several fronts on that show and i thought everybody's heard our gripes about cyber security so i took out the vast majority of the things we said and some some of the most cutting things and again i did that for the listeners not i promise you it wasn't because i was scared of getting in trouble it's just like i didn't think the listeners needed that much negativity about something they probably just do in their daily lives and their work lives so i cut out so much. And there was still criticism of that segment. And people are still thinking like man, these guys really hate their cyber security training, don't they? Yeah.

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Yeah, you should have heard the original one. Well that is, and I also though do identify with what you're saying Andrew about how it's good for De La Soul and good for music enthusiasts of the world that they will be able to get that music more easily now but there's also something very fun about feeling like you have kind of, you have a little special inside track on that. Addie and I, when we were on a hike last weekend, were talking about music. And even she, I mean, she's 27. Most of her life, at least a large part of her teen and adult life, has all been when streaming has been the case. And we were talking about just how different it is. I said, well, because I started off by saying, you know, if you think about, like I put, in fact, the song that I've chosen this week for Music for Your Weekend, which we're going to get to in a minute here. Because I am leaving for this camp out But Andrew first I have to Change the seats on my bed And make sure my apartment is immaculate Because I hate coming home From a trip to An unclean apartment Like the only thing that will make Sunday Scary is not so scary for me This Sunday will be coming home To a nice clean apartment Fresh sheets like at least that's going For me when everything else Is not But I was saying you know I started off by kind of thinking Maybe it's not that different Like we used to hear songs on the radio And you'd turn on your radio and you'd hear a song And you wouldn't

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know anything about the artist maybe at that point but then you get into it you'd hear it a few times you think i like that song and then you'd go get the song or you'd you know you go buy the album or whatever that's kind of how it is now because i'm always using a spotify quote-unquote radio station which is just a spotify algorithm and that's how i hear a lot of new music but addy was pointing out yeah but then you don't necessarily go buy that cd you don't go buy that full album from that from that band and that is true i don't i i experience music now so much more on a just song by song basis every once in a blue moon i hear a song that i really like that song i played last week for music for your weekend by that band la femme i was obsessed with that song and still am the song that the uh i forget the french uh actual name but it translates to you get tired of it kind of an experience your listeners i think can relate to with this show yeah but um i love that song so much and then i was like oh my god i found my new favorite band and then i went to their albums and i listened and i was like this is way too out there for me but i love that song i just it's very rare now that i have an album that i will experience as an album and and also just the ease of the ease of getting everything now and i'm not saying i'm not trying to shake my fist at that cloud literally in this case a cloud of information but it is very different now and and it is rare i can just see the appeal of being like I love this compact disc and I put this compact disc in and I play it and it contains the music of De La Soul that I cannot easily get somewhere else that's kind of a fun feeling yeah absolutely

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and it's uh and you know doing that a little bit with records too I know that you have a record player I don't know if that's hooked up in in where you are now but you were having some fun with your record player in your little rumpus room in Bellingham and kind of you know just that idea of like kind of a acquiring something physical that goes along with the experience of listening to music i think is uh is something special all right speaking of music uh shall we

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present a little music for your weekend for these listeners um i'm assuming andrew and you know what happens when you assume you make a great podcast exactly um i'm figuring did you are you selecting a de la soul song this week in honor of the now wider availability of de la

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soul's music yeah i was rambling and rattling on about um the balloon mind state and how the There's a theme throughout about them kind of fighting with their label about trying to cross over. The label really wants them to cross over to a mainstream audience, right? And so this song is called Patty Duke, which is probably one of the more popular songs off of this Balloon Mind State record. And you'll kind of hear them addressing this idea of, like, why do we as black musicians have to appeal to a white audience? why don't, and at the end of the song there's a reference to, you know, Elvis didn't have to put black people on his record, so anyway, take a listen to this No, because he was stealing their music So take a listen to this, this is Patty Duke

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One, two, you got it.

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Just the other day I got a starter kit An M is a terrible thing to wait Point the face from the backs of the border of the mind state I pay patrol to a fraud Nah, it ain't happening Not odd to make it even Robin and thieving is one who infiltrates where the Colgate found No, remember my nasal forcing the frequencies Well, it started in the year 178 But it's 93, oh shit, I say 94 For my style is much more I said come in Come in Come on I can't get to the chorus again.

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It's going on too long. But anyway, I recommend if this thing becomes streaming, listen to Balloon Mind State over and over and over again until you get obsessed with it like me.

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Perfect. You have a lot of personal history With your enjoyment of the music Of De La Soul I have zero personal Maybe this typifies Andrew As I was just talking about the difference In how we experience music in 2021 Versus 2001 or whatever 1981 Because this is just A song that I heard on an algorithm

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them and i was like oh i like and then i took a picture of it on my phone which is how that's i've i've essentially subcontracted out my memory or at least i've i've sort of um i found someone who's better at remembering things than i am and it's called my telephone so whenever like i have a thought about something i want to talk about on the show with you or a bit or there's a bit of tiktok tape i want to grab i just text it to myself always um so i took a screen cap of this It's a band called Still Corners I believe they're out of the UK Kind of a dream pop band Which I know listeners will be They're not singing in French so there's that That's one way in which I'm Deviating from my normal moves But the song is called Crying And it's by Still Corners And I just think it's a good song here in the summertime So let's take a listen to this

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I've been clapping my hands So I could shut down I've been counting to ten

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While the world falls down

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I've been crying I've been trying To forget you

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All right, so there you go. Oh, I like it. Whistling, right? Yeah. I'm a sucker for whistling in a song. I could see you stargazing with this in the background. Yeah, you know what? I think probably that was maybe when this song popped up. Oh, yeah. I went back and forth when I was stargazing last weekend. I was like, do I listen to just the sounds of nature, which is kind of cool, or do I, like, augment this with the sounds of, like, M83 or some kind of music that makes me really contemplative? Uh-huh. So I think I kind of did half and half. I sat there for a while. Everybody else had gone to sleep. I was just in my gamer chair stargazing. I know, right, Andy Times? I love it.

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If it really was a gamer chair, you'd have speakers built in right by your ears, man. Now it's starting to sound a little bit more appealing.

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I'm preaching to the choir on this one, I know. You wrote the book on Andy Times. Mm-hmm. All right, the listener suggestion this week for some music for your weekend comes from listener James, who says, Hey, dummies, I'm one of those oddballs who has been listening to the show since about a month after the Cairo days. James, I'm glad you missed the first month. Have you been listening since day one? I don't know if you'd still be here. Yeah, it's a real rough first. It's been a really rough 13 years. I'm not going to lie. Yesterday was pretty good. I thought yesterday was all right. We really turned a corner. James says, I've been listening to the Cairo Days, but I've never really reached out or interacted with the TENS community. But I just found this song, though, and I thought you and the other listeners might really enjoy it due to the wonderful combo of Isley Brothers' Throwback, Today Was a Good Day vibes, and a solid electro-disco funk take on Footsteps in the Dark. This is covered by a band or a group called Cannons. The whole EP is great, but this one definitely had me feeling ready for a warm SoCal weekend.

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Nice.

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Love the show. Go eat some Bregel. Power out.

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That's pretty good, James. That's great.

01:04:02 - 01:04:12 | Speaker 1:

I mean, it's so interesting when we have somebody who hasn't reached out a lot, but then they're using the terminology of the show. I'm just imagining James living his life but saying, go eat a Bregel.

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Yes, and I love that it's Bregels. Yes.

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I know. It's a good one. So that's what we're going to do to wrap the show up this week. thanks so much for listening everyone thanks for hanging out with us we appreciate you very much uh appreciate getting to do this for our job all right so we'll see on monday if i survive camping in 102 degree temperatures good luck and andrew surprise and andrew survives probably too

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much andy time let's be honest right just like all of the sausage and beer you can in white

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claw you can possibly we found him wearing four sets of bluetooth headphones listening to levitard playing multiple video games passed out on the floor all right we'll see you monday until then Have a great weekend. Go eat a Bregel. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

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And good luck to all.

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In the dark In the dark I keep hearing footsteps, baby In the dark In the dark

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Okay, I'm going to attach these electrodes to your face and ask you a simple series of questions.

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Questions? Just so we can figure out if this machine actually works.

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Okay, what's your favorite color?

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Lemon.

01:05:57 - 01:05:58 | Speaker 3:

Okay, you're lying.

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Rust.

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What is your favorite food?

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Crepe Suzette

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Jerry

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Meatballs

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If you could be any animal in the world, what would it be?

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Kitten

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Jerry

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Snake

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Well, we know you're good at lying

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Power out

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