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What, are you going out, by the way? You have plans?

Uh, no, no, not really. I'm going to stay in tonight.

Yeah?

Yeah, I'm going to hang out. I've got some stuff to do around me.

Gee, Saturday night, don't you? Isn't there a... What about, um...

Well, I mean, I have plans. I just, you know, they're not that complicated. There's some plans, though, that I do have, Dad. Like what? You know, I'm going to take a shower, and I'm going to clean up, and I'm going to, you know, lie down on my bed and just feel clean.

I don't think this is healthy, Ben. I think that there's something missing here. It's Saturday night, you're 24 years old.

I'm going to shave my body bare, is what I'm going to do.

Don't shave yourself again, Ben.

You're going to chafe. Dad, I got to. The hair's dirty. Hair's dirty. I want you to get counselling, Ben.

T-T-T-B-T-M Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is?

It's Friday. Friday.

Got to get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend. What'd you say? I didn't say anything. Yeah, totally. No, I hear that.

I was in a band back in the day.

Oh, yeah? What was the band?

The band was back in the day. I was in a band back in the day. The name of the band was back in the day.

This is the real thing. This is the necessary off of our tie. This needs respect.

Come on in, guys. The guests are having cocksquatches.

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TBTL, a show that just might be too beautiful to live.

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My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Hey, where's the freaking Gabba Ghoul? Ask not for who, the Gabba Ghouls. That was a tweet somebody sent to me. recently or shared with me looped me in on which really tells you what our brand is now on the show it's just weird things involving the term gabagool and that's fine by the way my name is luke burbank i'm your host coming to you from the nest broadcast center high in the sky above a portland oregon where it's looking like we've got another hot weekend in store it's a labor day weekend it's going to be very hot it's going to be very uncomfortable for everybody i guess it's going to be in the 90s i can't make up my mind what i'm rooting for when it was sort of cold earlier this week i felt sad i felt like i wasn't ready for summer to be over but i'm also not ready to just continue to roast in the um in the heat of the rose city so anyway the good news is it's climate controlled here inside the nest broadcast center and we are ready to go with Episode 3,503 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. Are streaming movies real movies? So who needs a movie? Patty Jenkins, the director of many films, including the two Wonder Woman blockbusters, says no. Says she doesn't feel like movies that are released on digital platforms have the same cultural impact. She says she's not hearing about them. She says they're not like real films to her. So we will investigate what is going on with that. Also, the McDonald's Corporation. You call hamburgers steamed hams. Yes, it's a regional dialect. Well, it's not the McDonald's Corporation, but it is a McDonald's franchisee in Canada who is a very well-respected person within the McDonald's universe, has let slip what Grimace, what the character Grimace actually is. And it's, well, it's not what I was expecting. So we will talk about that as well. And Abba is getting back together.

Well, well, well, look who's back.

Or at least holograms of them getting back together. We'll try to figure out what's going on with that. Oh, and there have been some developments in my plan to start putting up some signage around my apartment building to get people to stop leaving their dog poop in this one garbage can by the elevators. It's time for Operation Crazy Plan. I'll share those with you as well. Oh, and speaking of updates, an update on my situation with my tent and REI. That's why I live in a teepee. It got tense yesterday. Oh, did you see what I did there? intense things got intense i don't know you know who can help me with this my dear friend in the longest running cobro of the show may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships he's a soulful rocker from new hampshire he is andrew welsh and he's joining me right now from the roosevelt neighborhood of seattle washington good morning my friend good morning luke got into a little couple of little tiffs yesterday and i'm trying to figure out which one i want to tell you about. I mean, stiff is maybe a strong word.

think i know about one of them i you're being shadow banned from a certain social media platform

yeah what's going on with you in the gram yeah i think maybe the bellevue story is slightly better but the gram is yeah that also give me the two minute version of what's going on with the gram and then tell me about what's going on in bellevue so yesterday i'm puttering around my kitchen i'm getting the cat stuff ready for the morning sometimes when i'm done puttering and i've done all the necessary puttering like making the ice and the coffee for the next day and cleaning the countertops and folding the laundry coffee today yes and sometimes you just spin around your kitchen you say what is left to putter and i was like well i can wash out the cat's dishes and they can have set up everything for their morning meal i know that sounds silly i mean we're in like scraping the bottom of the puttering barrel here um but like theo has various medications that he has to take in the morning he has two pills he has to take in the morning we You have to put them in a pill pocket. There are two cat bowls. They split a can of cat food. There's some supplements that we put in Theo's bowl, including a cat laxative. And I had just gotten done labeling my – the cat laxative label had sort of rubbed off of the jar that I keep it in. It's not really even cat laxative. It's just like some sort of – it's something that is for humans that you're supposed to mix a packet into water and you drink it. Miralax, I think it's called.

Right, sure. And that's it. Is that is that a fiber supplement? I believe so. That works, you know, kind of not unlike Metamucil or something.

Yeah, it's like that. And so anyway, for Theo, what we do is we don't put it in a glass of water and have him drink it. Instead, you just take an eighth of a teaspoon, which is just like, I don't know, one one hundredth of a packet of this stuff. And you take an eighth of a teaspoon. You put it in his food. So anyway, point is, I'm just sort of like I'm just like in that mode. Luke, I don't know if you've ever gone this granular on it before, but I know that you've said you've kind of gotten like this before, too. You're like, it's late at night, and you're like, well, I'm just going to get everything set for the morning.

Yeah. My big one really is making the coffee, like putting the grounds in there, measuring it all out, getting the water. And then I take half of one paper towel section, which is the right amount. I somehow keep buying these paper towels that you can actually like what used to be a traditional square of paper towel. Now you can rip it that in half. You know what I mean? It's perforated. I take one of those halves and I place it down in front of the coffee maker. I put my cup of coffee I'm going to use and I put one packet of Splenda. And I do that so that I don't in the morning forget that I've already made the coffee. And like I guess I don't know what I would do. I guess I would fill the coffee pot with more water and go to pour it in and then realize. but there's something about having that all set and I'll put a spoon next to the Splenda thing to stir the coffee and when that's all done then I can go to bed feeling like tomorrow's going to be alright. Yep.

I do literally the same thing with the coffee maybe not with the Splenda and everything but we also have a little sticky note that we swap out every now and then that says press play because I used to just have to set the timer on the coffee machine but we realized well sometimes the coffee is made too early then it's a little cool when we wake up so now I just have it all set to go but all you have to do is hit that go button so I have a little sticky note when it's ready to go you put the sticky note on there but yep same deal with us almost Wes Anderson-y it up a little bit right like have everything like laid out I'm doing the same thing for the cat stuff and I realized that this little jar it's an old it's a tiny old mustard a jar for what it's worth uh that now has my handwriting and the black magic marker it says cat laxative on it and I'm just setting it all out and I'm like oh that's kind of funny just like a jar that says cat laxative so I take a quick photo of it it's not like a great photo it's not something i want and i have a i don't have to get into this but i didn't want to put it in my actual feed where it would live forever as some sort of like photo that i want to display i just put it in stories so it'll be there for 24 hours it's not like some great photo it's just a silly photo of cat laxative that kind of made me laugh and i thought this might make other people laugh too so i put it in my stories and then five minutes later or something i get a notification from instagram saying we've removed this photo of cat laxative There's also a little bottle of pills kind of in the background. You can see it says Theo on it, and it says we've removed it because it violates our community standards. And I'm like, well, okay, what? I would like to dispute this. What is the community standard? And they give you no information. It's just all algorithms and bots, right? Right. And so it's like it's completely unhelpful. It just says you've violated community guidelines. Okay, well, why? And then it says, well, here are our community guidelines, and it lists every single one. Well, I'm like, well, I know there's no nudity. Let's see. So, I mean, like what? It gives me no guidance at all. And then it gives you no way to, like, contest it at all. I looked it up there. Sometimes there's a way to contest it. Luke, you'll love this. But they say in their guidelines, it says because of COVID, it is getting difficult to contest these things or something like that.

have them i don't they don't have the person power or maybe there's too much me a bra it might have to do with all the misinformation they're trying to clamp down on because of covid and whatever the thing um they've just like and i realize now that the reason they probably took it down was because of covid related stuff not covid so much as the way these knuckleheads like Like Joe Rogan and Milas Giovannich, who's that awful? Oh, Milas, Yann, whatever. Yeah, that person. Yannopoulos. You know, taking their horse dewormers and their worm dehorsers and all of that.

I mean, honestly, if Insta would have left that up, do you realize how much of the population of right-wingers would have been taking cat laxatives today to try to deal with it?

Try it. Try it, Joe. anyway point is so then they take it down and then i'm just kind of furious like i'm in this moment of just feeling like over something that is totally unimportant this was not an important photo that i have in my stories at all very likely i wouldn't have even taken it if i hadn't seen it in that particular moment but just this sort of like this this machine just saying i am a machine i've taken this down you've broken our standards these are what our standards are but like there's no way of telling what rule has been broken and then seeing that Facebook logo flash in in front of me as the app is closing I'm just like screw Facebook screw Instagram I have I mean Instagram is one of my favorite like social apps it's the one I engage with the most I like looking at other people's photography but like in this moment I just felt I just felt so powerless and angry that I'm voluntarily opting into this awful organization Facebook is just an awful awful organization and they're they're bullying they're they're hollering at me and telling me what i can and cannot do over something completely innocuous i was i almost like deleted my account right there then i was like andrew just calm down for a second like you have a lot of photos up here this app has brought you a lot of fun don't delete all your history but i was just triggered in this way that i was like screw it so i i ended up like posting the photo which isn't even a very good photo and the takedown notice and i put it in my actual uh instagram feed for those who don't use the app this sounds so tedious but instead of being some temporary thing that would have been up there for 24 hours i then made it a two photo thing saying like what's wrong with this app i'm thinking about leaving it and reposted it so i could just have my public fit out there forever and people are continuing to comment on it telling me not to take horse it's a strange thing to consider that

because a guy 20 years ago wanted to make a website rating if the girls at his college were hot, now your uncle's taking horse dewormer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like the fact that Facebook is- Not my uncle, just for the record.

Not specifically your uncle.

In case any family members are dipping in on this episode. One's uncle. I just mean our collective uncle. Yeah, our collective uncle. As a nation, like the fact that Facebook is what pumps most of the brain poison. that and Fox News into the brains of our distant relatives who have bad takes. It's just wild to think that because Zuckerberg wanted to basically objectify chicks at Harvard, now I have to – well, I was going to name names, but I won't within my own distant family. Luckily, I feel very fortunate actually because I come from a very Christian household And my parents are still very much believers in the Christian faith, but they are very much not about conspiracy theories and QAnon and Donald Trump and all of that, but a lot of their friends are. In fact, some of my parents' longest, dearest friends, again, I will omit their name on the very, very off chance that somebody who hears this knows them, but, like, really dear family friends that we used to go visit them, they lived in Spokane, they still do, and we would look forward to it all summer to go hang out with these people. they're just the nicest sweetest people and like most of my parents friends they've just gone down that rabbit hole and apparently were like the dude was like screaming at my dad about being a sheeple and it's just it's a very sad thing to see this happen to so many people in our society who honestly I just I mean I don't think that they were bad people 10 years ago they may have had different religious beliefs than me or different political views but it's something fundamental

has changed about how this stuff is operating on people yeah yeah i do think that fox was really the the beginning of this just like mass mass scary propaganda that is that is just you know kind of masked as you know very um consumable news quote-unquote news right people like that

But can I just speaking of how things operate, I want to clarify Miralax works with the water in your body. I don't know if it's a I don't think it's a fiber thing. Oh, it's Miralax works with your body's natural process to provide effective release, really from occasional constipation because it works with the body. Miralax registered provides a gentle experience. It doesn't cause harsh side effects. So I don't know.

It sounds like somebody hasn't tried sniffing it because it does. Well, that's why you got banned from the ground.

Now, what happened in Bellevue? What was your other smit you got into?

I think this one is slightly more interesting, maybe slightly more complicated, but I think in a way that you'll be able to associate with. Nothing really bad happened here. But, okay, so here's the deal. As you know, Luke, I don't go over to the east side very often. It's kind of a different world over there. I'm very much a Seattle guy. But yesterday I was done with most of my TBTL work, but I then knew that I had to write the newsletter in the afternoon. And I point is, I just had this like kind of this period in my day where I'm like, OK, I'm going to go treat myself. I really want some matzo ball soup and a good and like a good pastrami sandwich or something. I'm going to treat myself for a couple of hours. I'm going to eat too much, then regret eating too much. And then at some point, sit down in a coffee shop, maybe, and sit down and write the newsletter. But first, I need to treat myself. So I almost went to Roxy's and places around Seattle. But for various reasons, I was like, no, I want to try something new. I'm going to do something that I don't think I've ever done in my life, which is at lunchtime drive over to the east side. I see there's a place over there called Gilbert's on Main, and it looks like a little Jewish-style deli, matzo ball soup, pastrami, corned beef, that kind of stuff. I'm like, I'm going to give this a shot. I'm going to make it a little adventure. Now, in this day and age, this actually happened to me last week when I was on a similar adventure. You have to be ready to show up at a place, and it turns out they might be closed on a whim. There's all kinds of things. Or they don't have any employees. Yeah, exactly. And so this is happening. I'm really kind of opening myself up to that and realizing I shouldn't get frustrated about these things. But I'm like, I'm just going to do this. And if I go over to the east side and that place is closed, I'll find something else to do over there. There's tons of places to eat over there. So anyway, I'm sort of gearing myself up for it. I head over there. Gilbert's on Main is still open. And I had some of the best matzo ball soup I've ever had in my life. It was excellent. I'm looking at photos. of the food from this place and man so good it's look good a little family run place very good um anyway so i go over there it's like i finish my meal around three i know this because um because they're closing up i didn't realize i was kind of keeping them late there a little bit but um so far so good my only regret is i did eat the second half of the sandwich when i was already full after the first half and the matzo ball soup and i kind of ate myself sick which isn't a great feeling i walk around bellevue for a little bit and then it's time for me to leave and i don't know Bellevue very well but there are two ways I always feel like whenever I'm over there there are two ways to leave town like the way you came in or you can keep driving straight and ways will get you on a different highway somewhere I'm very confused about the highways and byways in and out of Bellevue I'm always a little confused about about it but I just follow the maps anyway so as I get in my car I realized I could turn around and backtrack and start making my way back in the way i came but the app says i can go forward here let's see what happens so i start driving forward next thing i know like within a few blocks i am in grid lock traffic like i cannot figure out what's going on but nothing is moving and there's no getting out of it at this point i appreciate

you using gridlock in the correct sense by the way yeah intersections like people are pulling up in intersections and stopping and the lights are changing and nobody's moving it's it's rough I get to a point and I realize oh there's some sort of big road construction project going on way up there um there's no actual construction going on at this point but the road is all torn up and so you have this big major intersection it's probably an intersection of two roads that each have four lanes right and there's somebody directing traffic way way up there so I I you know I get in line I have to do the people in Seattle really hate the what is it the scissor the zipper merge yeah like people aren't like i know properly but like that's the whole point take advantage of the lane as long as you can the longer there's two lanes the better it is for everybody going to a lot of detail here for none just for the record none of this shit that i just told you matters i was just trying to get you into my mind state anyway so now i'm a little riding along with you i'm a little bit i'm a little frustrated so here i am right now i've just had a great meal but i ate too much of it i'm sort of hating myself a little bit and i'm really hating myself that i'm stuck in all this traffic because i just need to find i need to get back to seattle and start working on my newsletter now like fun times are over i'm feeling bloated

i'm feeling tired i gotta i've avoided my work now now it's like the bill is due literally and figuratively i will say this about you're not paying a bill in your car and i don't want to

i don't want to complain about the prices especially um i think people should go to gilbert's if you have the opportunity but also i was sort of and i'm not somebody who counts

dollars very much i'm just like whatever i just pay for it if i want it right but i did notice i was like wow it was like a over there's like a twenty dollars for like the smaller size sandwich ten dollars for the soup it was with the tip and everything was like forty dollars for a sandwich and soup just a decent coin to drop for lunch for a quick lunch and i'm also sort of thinking like wow did it really cost me five dollars to cross the bridge into bellevue and is it really cost me five dollars to go back and a toll i don't want to complain about the tolls either but i just did realize like this quick little sandwich is costing me upwards of fifty dollars at this point i'm just sort of that's a little bit on my mind and i'm trying to get out of bellevue and i'm stuck in this long line of cars then finally i get to the front of the intersection right and i got to take a left here and i don't know the area very well but i'm the front car i'm the once and the lights aren't working forget about the traffic light there is a traffic um director what do you call the people who direct traffic there's a there's a traffic traffic excuse me traffic cop yeah like a traffic cop i assume that she's a police officer although i'm not sure or works for the police department in some way anyway i get to the like i'm rolling up and then she holds up her palm to stop me in fact she had these gloves on and then over the gloves she had these big red buttons that said stop and i'm i'm rolling up to the intersection so that i'm going to be the the first car not to be able to make it through and i will sit there for a while until she waves me on right but as i'm rolling up to the intersection she's like stop she holds up her hand so i'm like great yeah so I'm slowing down and I'm stopping and then she starts like shoving it at me and like stop stop stop and she's like sort of like mouthing it and kind of yelling it at me as if I'm not going to stop as if I'm not at a crawl here slowing down I'm like well maybe she's just like maybe she's just really into her job and trying to communicate clearly but I was a little bit put off by that I'm just like I don't like being hollered at Luke and it seemed like this woman was hollering at me as if I was not obviously stopping which I clearly was and she kind of gave me a look and my turn signal is already on I need to make a left through this big intersection so once she directs all these other cars through and I know I'm going to be sitting there for a while I need to figure out if I can take a left or not and I'm not even sure if I'm allowed to because I'm the first car in line I can't follow another car to take a left but she continues to direct traffic she's bringing traffic through the other way and I'm sitting there and I'm at this light for more than five minutes or maybe about five minutes it's a long time and I am sitting there thinking even though she irritated me at first i'm thinking god that's a hard job it's hot out there she's in the middle of this awful intersection directing all this awful traffic now it's rush hour time on a thursday in bellevue and i'm i'm just thinking what awful what awful work like i gotta cut her a break here then another truck uh comes up they're kind of taking a left opposite of me kind of cutting in front of me um as i'm waiting my turn and they it's clearly like somebody maybe who works in construction and they have a cooler and they toss her a cold bottle of water and she runs up and

she grabs it and i'm like good for you like that i love to see that man that's somebody else who's thinking like this is a tough job you deserve this cold bottle of water and she took it i loved it i thought it was great and i was even thinking like i'm like when i make my left turn if i'm allowed to make a left turn here i'm just gonna kind of maybe roll down my window and say thank you you know and um so now my window is down and again my turn signal has been on for about five minutes or So finally, it's my turn to start driving. And she waves me forward. And I'm kind of like for everybody else who's taking a left turn, she's she's very good at her job. She's pointing and saying, like, I see you want to take a left. You go ahead and take a left. So my turn signal is on and I pull in the intersection of my windows already down because I was going to say thank you. And I said, but can I take the left? And she looks at me and she rolls her eyes. She's like, you guys got to put your turn signals on earlier. You can't put them on at the last minute. I got to know where you're going. And suddenly all of my goodwill to thank this woman for her service goes right out the window. Well, almost literally. I yelled at her. I said, my turn signal's been on. It's been on for an hour. And then I do take my left and I drive on. And then I just feel like garbage about myself and about everything for like the next two hours. I'm beating myself up that I yelled at this woman who's doing a good job. But how dare you? I use my turn signal all the time. I overuse my turn signal. I was sitting there. You already were yelling at me silently and in my own head, telling me to stop as if I wasn't stopping before. Now I'm sitting there. I'm not making this up, by the way. Like my turn signal was on. Click. I believe it. Click. Click for the entire five minutes. And then I'm going to make the turn. I'm like, because I'm waiting for her to acknowledge me. I almost stuck my finger out the window just to point to make sure because I'm very conscientious about these things. And she rolls her eyes at me and wags her finger as if my turn signal wasn't on the whole time. It's like, no, maybe you need to open your eyes and see that I'm stopping and that my turn signal was on, officer. I'm an excellent driver. That would be very frustrating. And again, that's one of those things where because. you do follow the rules and because you are very conscientious when you're doing all of that stuff and then you're reprimanded it makes you especially mad yeah i would get mad just because i don't like anyone telling me what to do but i also wouldn't have had my turn signal on or it's possible like it's possible i would have just forgotten like when i get yelled at and i'm in the wrong i'm furious just because i don't like i don't like people telling me what to do But for you, it's like generally speaking in those situations, you're being very careful to try to follow the rules. And then when you're when you're being punished as a rule breaker, it makes you real mad.

And only because I already thought that she had already sort of unfairly sort of finger wagged me. Again, these are such a minor like time to like they're not even microaggressions. They're just like microscopic non-aggressions, which is going to be the name of the band. But like, you know, but I already was I already in the five minutes, whatever it was, I was sitting at this light for a really, really, really long time. And in this time, I've taken this whole journey of being somewhat put off by this woman to really appreciating that this is probably a tough job and it's probably doesn't earn tons of money, although I hope it's a good job. I don't know. And just a decent retirement. Yeah, probably. And I'm sure if it is, she's probably part of the police union or whatever. But anyway, all of that is to say I just went on this whole journey of being a little bit put out to like being like, hey, you know what? Like, wow, that's a tough job. How about you think about putting yourself in somebody else's position and then just being finger wagged again? The thing that kind of got me over it, I was like, I didn't I didn't say anything. I didn't like scream at her. I was just like appalled at the moment. It's like, it's been on for an hour. But I mean, it's not like I did anything that bad. I was like, oh, come on. That's like a 30 second joke in Curb Your Enthusiasm. I don't think I have to beat myself up over it.

No, you shouldn't, because I'm sure I'm sure that, you know, it was less of an event in her mind than you thought. And also, if she was speaking to you kind of bluntly or reproachfully, your response kind of slightly in kind, I don't think is the end of the world. You know, I mean, if like the fact that she was like, you got to do this. And then you were for some reason, I imagine it's all unfolding on the streets of New York City. Yeah, she seems very. I'm waving here. Manhattan.

And I said, I'm blinking here. And she says, I'm approaching you here. Yeah, it just kind of kept going back and forth like that for a while.

Well, I almost, and I am so glad, Andrew, that I didn't go with my more triggered base instinct yesterday. But, you know, I've been talking about this tent that I bought at REI that was a little too small. So I traded it in for the larger model. And they don't keep the tents physically at the REI. They're at some warehouse somewhere. They have to get shipped. I had it shipped to the REI. And I was a little frustrated because I kept getting these emails that were like, you have one day to pick up your tent. Literally, it was like from when the thing arrives, you are supposed to pick it up within seven days. Now, I know that that's not like an impossibility. Maybe that's not asking a lot. But I do have a lot going on in my life. And I also just, I don't know. I I'm I'm bad about like things like that like going and picking you know for instance I still haven't gone and gotten that blazer that's now somewhere in Portland like I have a bit of a bad habit around these things but I also just feel like you don't know what people's lives are people travel people you know could be not feeling well there's a variety of things seven days doesn't seem like enough time for me anyway to be required to go get this tent so I keep calling them and saying hey i can't get there uh by the uh the due date and then they'll say well when can you be here and i'm like are these my student loans like well what could you pay today mr burbank if you can't pay the whole amount like it just feels like a weird negotiation to have with a company over a thing that got delivered that like i just my feeling is i'll come get it when i get it and as i said yesterday on the show i already paid for it well yesterday at about five o'clock i am about to go meet becca and we're gonna go uh walk around a little bit in portland and go visit some some friends of hers that have a little kind of uh bistro and i happened to look down at my bank account and my debit card that i had used to buy the tent and i realized there's a refund on my account from rei for the amount of the tent and i andrew when i say i was pissed because I keep calling them and saying, please don't send the tent back to the warehouse. And also, I'm going camping this weekend, and I need the tent for this weekend. It's Labor Day weekend. And the one thing I know is one does not just stroll into Mordor, a.k.a. REI, and buy a tent and walk out with one.

Not on Labor Day weekend.

Not on Labor Day weekend. So I know.

that if this tent has now been sent back to the warehouse i will not be able to get a tent this weekend also i like this tent this is this um marmot tent anyway so i call and i'm already just like pretty furious at this system because i kind of already know what's happened and so i call and i get someone and you know you've been in aria all the employees are super nice but like i get this person on the phone and then they say okay i'm gonna go like look at the i need to walk to where the computers are let me check this and then the line just goes dead so then i call back and i get the auto auto message you know hi this is the rei co-op in portland due to covid these are the new things we're doing and then it's like a two minute voice message about covid protocols the thing is it won't let you just hit zero and get to the can i talk to someone it makes you it's like when you're on youtube and it makes you watch the ad there's no skip ad function that feels like violence to me like i know rei i understand your covid protocols i just listen to this message i just need to find that person and see what's going on with this tent so i'm hitting zero and it's going that number is not in service or whatever the thing says and then it goes back to the beginning hi welcome to the rei co-op portland every time i hit zero i keep waiting like 10 seconds 15 seconds 20 seconds into the message thinking now i'm at the point where i can hit zero and every time i do it it starts the message over and i'm just imagining this whole weekend is now ruined because i don't have this tent so now i get a different person uh answers the phone an employee named rachel at this rei in portland and she's very nice and i i was i said hey i bought this tent and it was shipped there and i'm worried that now it's been canceled because i just got a refund on my debit card and she said well let me check that so she looks on the computer She goes, yeah, the order was canceled. And this was the moment at which I was about to launch into a tirade where I was going to say something to the effect of, how is this the – like, I just was so mad. But instead of doing that, because I was able to realize, Andrew, thanks to a lot of therapy, that this is not Rachel's fault. She is – let's be honest. Rachel probably just likes hiking and works at REI because she gets half off gear. Like, Rachel is not the problem here. The problem is I didn't go to the REI for nine days to get this tent. So I said, well, that's a bummer because I'm trying to go camping this week. And she goes, well, let me check on something. She's like, when they cancel the order, they don't always send the tent back right away. So she's like, I'm going to go over to the other thing that they have, whatever they call it. They're like other warehouse that's at the facility. She goes, just hold on a minute. So she goes over. She finds the tent, which was about to be sent back. Wow, Rachel. Go, Rachel, right? She gets the tent.

She puts a note on it. She's like, I'm putting this behind the customer service. I'm putting a note attached to it that says, do not send this back to the warehouse. And I was like, thank you so much. And it was just it was a real, you know, it was a real sliding door situation because had I I mean, first of all, it would have been inappropriate to be mean to this person who didn't didn't do anything wrong. but i was i just was so close to just having one of those meltdowns that people have where i'm just like you know like uh clearly we understand how reservations work clearly you don't like i was about to write the yelp review of a lifetime for this place and i didn't and i was so thankful that i didn't because rachel fixed the problem i mean i'd say 50 50 the tent is there today when

i go get it i was gonna say have you picked it up yet no yeah that makes me nervous we gotta Like, will you pick this up and text me?

Well, this is how we build the narrative art of the show. This is how we get people to listen to the Labor Day show that we're going to be doing on Monday. But anyway, yeah, I was just glad that I stifled the impulse to just yell at an innocent person because, A, again, it would have been mean and inappropriate. And, B, she probably would not then have gone and found this tent, which thankfully, allegedly anyway, is still at the REI.

And also, like, I don't want to push back on you because you rode with me in my moments of pettiness. Just moments ago, there were only two Volkswagen Golf tire tracks in the sand as you carried me. I don't know what I was doing there. But anyway, but, I mean, the example of, like, I don't think you know what a reservation means is a little bit opposite. Is it like they had a policy that it's almost like they could yell at you. I don't think you know what a policy is. Right. Because, I mean, it wasn't like they snuck this policy in on you. You knew from the get go that you had seven days to pick it up. Right.

Well, I didn't know when I was deciding whether or not to have the tent shipped to my apartment building or to the REI. And like I said yesterday, the reason I went REI was because I felt like.

It's safer at the REI than this mail room that I have where a lot of the boxes and things are not actually in the lockers if they're too big. And I have never heard of anyone stealing anything out of the mail room. The worst transgression is people letting their dogs shit in there. More on that in a minute. But I just – in the moment, I made a snap judgment or a snap decision, which was let's just send it here. It will be safe, and then I'll get to it when I get to it. Now, I wish the guy would have said, now, just so you know, when things get shipped here, if you don't come get it in seven days, we cancel the order. Because what I would have known about myself would have been, oh, yeah, there's no way I'm getting there within seven days. You know what I'm getting there? The hour before I need to drive to Salem, Oregon to camp. That's how I roll. So it was the policy. I am the one that was in violation of their policy. But first of all, I think the policy itself is kind of screwy. And I also probably wouldn't have minded a heads up on that. Because to me, that feels like a very, very tight window.

You know, yesterday you did this once, and I thought we got away with it. Now you've done it twice, and I just got a note from the folks at PRX. They've asked that you stop using the term Snap Judgment on this particular podcast. You can use it on Livewire because I believe that you have a PRX relationship with them. But we just got a cease and desist on saying Snap Judgment on TBTL, unless you want to do a full promo for the podcast.

Can I still use speaking of faith? When I'm talking about my friend Faith Saley, can I still say, oh, speaking of faith? It's been a minute since you've asked me that. All right. Let's take a quick break. And then when we come back, I do want to talk about the plan to try to get the dog poop situation in my building, which, by the way, was I don't have my phone with me on my little jogs. But this morning was just like, I mean, it was like, it was the perfect example of what I'm talking about. I get out of the elevator and there's like four dog poop bags in this tiny little stainless steel garbage can on the third floor. And I was just like, this is exactly what the problem is. So anyway, we'll talk about that coming up in a moment here on TBTL. hey let's thank some donors of the day wonderful generous long-suffering people who always pick up their tented rei after i'd say probably three days max because we know these people are reliable Andrew because they're supporting TBTL people like Christine Zuzula in Johnston Rhode Island USA who would I include the um no you were just guessing yeah kind of just threw a Hail Mary on that one how about uh Byron Ijima in Granada Hills California beautiful Granada Hills is that north of cheese or south of cheese well that's a great question i mean it would by definition it would be north because it's in the valley the san fernando valley more east but it's even north yeah that's a good point it is kind of east of cheese but also but also technically north northeast of cheese uh-huh right byron if you could spread the word there in granada hills let everyone know maybe call a meeting together in the neighborhood uh just fyi this area has been

redistricted as northeast of cheese welcome to northeast of cheese enjoy your stay they're

always doing that anyway you know like i think north hollywood for a time was trying to rebrand itself as noho oh because i think north hollywood had gotten a certain kind of rap or rep uh do remember that there was seattle i forget there was some part of like downtown that was trying

to call itself the west edge at some point oh i didn't know that although soto must have been new at some point too right the area that we call Soto south of downtown yeah you're right and that

one really worked though Soto Mojo yeah Soto Mojo you know who has Soto Mojo Bettina Mackey in Bothell Washington for a day or a lifetime Brooks Wilson is in Boise Idaho hey Brooks what is up thank you for donating to the show that's right Marissa Collins is in Columbia maryland and then ryan dietzman and colleen peterson are in st paul minnesota one of my very favorite places to cancel a trip hours before going to a lot of familiar names on this list today thanks everybody yeah if we do this show long enough i've said this before we will eventually know literally every donor and have a story about them yeah and um that's when That's when this show will have reached its sort of like perfect ending. Saturation point. Yeah, exactly. So thank you so much to our donors of the day. Thanks for making TBTL possible. We really do appreciate you. hello and welcome to top story um the uh submissions are starting to roll in andrew of of signs and plaques and things that the listeners have have helped design for me because i have my like uh photo i keep saying photoshop but i feel like there's a different what's the program that i'm actually thinking of like adobe or something like well if you were going to make a sign that had Splooch, the diarrhea turtle, on it asking people to please not throw their dog poop in a garbage can by the elevators, what program would you use? It would be Photoshop. It would be Photoshop. Yeah, which is Adobe Photoshop. Oh, okay. Well, people have been sending some in. I'm looking at some of the ones that are just coming in this morning. Guillermo sent one in. Oh, I like this one. So one sign says, dog poop here,

and it's got splucha and it looks like it's a recreation of splucha i think guillermo has that is that the original clip art or is that somebody who's recreated the clip art themselves

what he's done and this is what's very genius about guillermo's idea where the dog poop is supposed to go splucha looks like he's doing great and where the dog poop's not supposed to go that's more that's more the splucha that we know and love and for new listeners to the show So this is this picture of a turtle that Andrew saw in a bathroom in Australia, possibly in the Northern Territory. Yeah, it definitely made us laugh so hard. That's what we're talking about here, this iconic, to us anyway, turtle. So I kind of like what Guillermo's done here, that you've got a little subtle visual indicator. Yes, I love it. Put it on the poop, Guillermo. then we've got jennifer uh was nice enough to send one along that i think is actually pretty funny but it actually it also is a cause for concern so it's splucha and is he's doing his thing and then the sign says please don't be a turd old so t-u-r-d hyphen l-e pet waste receptacle available outside thank you it's a nice sign my concern is that turtle i don't know well that's you know what the the people that manage this building they do call pets fur babies which i'm not really big on like when they send an email they literally sent an email the other day saying please pick up after your fur babies they meant more like outside the building where everyone just lets their dogs crap but um i i guess the turtle i wondered if that was going to be a giveaway that This was not created by the management of the building. A little crass. And just so that was – I do appreciate you making this, Jennifer. Thank you so much. But, again, that was – I'm hoping that whatever I end up putting up in the hallway, I'm hoping it stays there as long as possible. And so I both wanted to draw attention to itself but also not too much attention, if that makes sense. Do you think it helps if I frame it? That's another thing I'm considering doing?

Well, that's interesting. That sort of leads us to Jamie's plaque. Have you seen Jamie's? I have. Is this? It's wood. It looks like she actually has, what would that be? Is it like a laser engraver or something? Did she make this? I believe she, yeah, clearly it's a little piece of wood. I'm going to say this is what, the size of two decks of cards maybe side by side, maybe a little bit bigger than that. Smaller than a bread box. Smaller than a bread box. And it's a piece of beveled wood. And kind of burned into it. Yes. This is the Splooch the Turtle clip art, which I think Jamie maybe have even told me in the past that she had to recreate because she couldn't find the original. And it says, no poo in my can, please. Well, see, this is the thing.

That would be great to put at your house, Andrew, or somewhere near your garbage can. I feel like, Jamie, if you can make this and we can make it a little bit more like it came from an apartment management company, then we could really be talking. it does look super legit um i'm also now i was literally rehearsing this in my mind when i was standing in the lobby fuming about the dog poop bags today andrew um i was thinking because there's tons of security cameras i mean there's well there's like at least two of those mounted little what do you call it i mean it's a security camera but it's kind of mounted into the ceiling and it's a little like black bubble that you know has cameras in it kind of thing yep yep and i was like i'm gonna gorilla tape this whatever i come up with i'm gonna glue this to the wall i'm gonna tape it to the wall pretty hard because i want it to stay but are they gonna see me on camera are they gonna go back and review the tape and if so do i need to do a whole thing where i like i wear a hat and sunglasses and a hood do i need to kind of and a face try to well that's you right good point the face mask really helps the biggest face mask that you have sunglasses hat Thank you.

hoodie and come from a direction maybe a wig opposite of your um apartment oh so smart then that was the other thing i thought i'm actually gonna have to buy two cans for this because there's two entrances to this this parking garage kind of you can enter from either side and so if i really want people to start actually using these dog poop little free libraries that i'm going to create i would uh what do you call them again uh from yesterday i believe yeah if i want these people to be poo gooders i think i'm going to have to provide them with uh garbage cans or receptacles on both you know both possible entrances so anyway thank you to everyone who's been sending stuff in i'll tweet these out i'll share them yeah will you yeah oh look i think

zach just sent one in too well this is a whole nother thing which is also super interesting zach found in the toy section of some store basically the irl toy version of splooch the turtle now it looks a little bit different but there is a toy a pink turtle-esque a pink and purple turtle-esque creature with very big eyes sitting on a toilet and it's called little live

pets gotta go turtle and by the way once again turtle is spelled t-u-r-d turd all and the turtle is saying feed me i do a magic poop well that'll never end up on marsupial yeah i repeat what you say oh i repeat what you say this is my first time reading words so what this thing does you get all the words right actually you just the emphasis was on the wrong syllable uh feed me i do a magic poop and then i repeat what you say i actually think this

could be hours of fun particularly if you took an edible what makes it what makes it a magic poop i wonder also veves and i have noticed this recently we did a whole show on after these messages about all the there are so many toys and games that are about bodily function very i mean toys and games for kids these days are very poop and fart forward in a way that they were not when i was a kid like all these games are like try to make it poop catch the poop feed

it till it poops that's everything that kids are doing these days it's you know that i was holding a beaver poop the other day i didn't even tell you about this so this is crazy well first of all beavers eat their own poop which is pretty gross when you think about it but less gross when i explain to you what it actually is they they're like sawdust marshmallows so do you know that beavers how beavers actually like um you know how they feed themselves what they eat no let me guess

Do they eat? I'm sorry. This is all coming on pretty. You just started with like, I was, did I tell you I was holding a beaver poop the other day? And then like, you just keep on talking and all of this is catching me a little bit off guard. I'm finding it interesting, but it's also just blowing my mind. Do they eat, do they survive off of the bugs that are in the wood?

No, they are vegans. They eat bark, and they eat wood. And what they really eat is this kind of sugary, just, I guess, sugary deposit that's in the bark of a lot of wood. So they gnaw down a tree, and then they will chew up the bark, and so then the tree itself will be sort of denuded. And then when they go to the bathroom, it's very – depending on the kind of tree they were eating and gnawing on, their poop is very fibrous and still has a lot of calories in it for them. So then they will re-eat it to give their body a chance to get more of the nutrition and more of the calories out of it. And so by the time I was standing in a beaver pond, I guess, you know, these beavers had created a dam, which had kind of flooded this area in California where I was, like in a good way. So I was standing there in hip waders talking to a scientist, and she just like casually hands me this ball of sawdust, which turns out is beaver poop. You have to tell somebody that they're handing you poop before they take the poop. I agree. And I said, I believe on camera, who knows if it'll make it into the piece, but I said, did you just casually hand me beaver poop? Because even though it's, like, kind of the least gross of that kind of stuff, like, it's still, you know, you've got to tell somebody. Yes, you do.

I will send you the finest lubrication agent made by the sweat of 17 hardworking Canadian beavers.

i have so many i i will spare you and the listeners right now andrew but i did a real download on uh on kind of like some interesting dazzling deets around beavers and what they do

and don't do do they wear leather jackets because i'm thinking now if i ever see a beaver in a leather jacket i'll know beavers are vegan and that's not really a beaver it's some yeah you

gotta call them out yeah or you gotta just be like hypocrite much yeah right yeah um yeah they're

actually

quite fascinating animals um i didn't see them because they also are very not into humans so we were standing there we knew that they were there in their lodge but they were like sleeping and they were like not not into coming out and kicking it plus it was a million degrees out there that was the other crazy thing was this pond we had to walk to was we were told it was like a half a mile from where all of our like trucks and gear was but it was really more like i don't know a couple of miles it was a hundred this was last friday it was 104 degrees we were in um atascadero california and we have all this gear and our camera guy was not he's not the youngest dude he was a kind of last minute freelance replacement so i'm like in these i'm carrying these hip waders which are weirdly heavy and all this camera gear and i'm in like a blue collared shirt that is now going to be I'm going to be filmed at the end of all of this and I'm carrying all this stuff and I wasn't trying to be a prima donna but I felt like saying to everyone maybe the guy who's going to have the camera point at him shouldn't be carrying most of the gear I didn't say that I just carried it and silently fumed and then you know tried to get through it but it was a pretty wild adventure actually because we didn't have any water it was crazy hot out there you know what actually felt really good though standing in the water that the the beavers had created by damming up this creek the water was actually very cool and so that kind of helped regulate my temperature i've never worn

waders before luke i'm sort of whispering here because i have a i have a question i want to ask you that could be somewhat uncouth when you're wearing these waders free ballin just free as a Not my question. Not my question. And then you walk out into cold water like that. Does it make you sort of have to pee a little bit?

Oh, interesting. Well, at that point, my body had no liquid left in it. I had sweated it all out. But maybe under different circumstances. It's a weird feeling, though, because you're not getting wet. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I can almost imagine it. But you can feel the temperature change. You can feel the water. Didn't know you like to get wet, though. But you're still dry. And also the sound guy was kind of freaking out because I had a like a battery pack on. You know, I had like a lavalier mic. These things are like not cheap. And he was like, please do not go any deeper in the water than like your calves. But of course, we needed certain shots and I needed to be in more water. So I was trying to like go in the water deeper, but not so deep that I short out the, you know, the microphone and stuff. But yeah, it was it was a being a really fun, interesting day. But it did involve me holding some poop, which I'm trying to do less of in my life. Anyway, I'm going to keep everyone posted on this project. But I am going to do it, Andrew. I'm going to follow through. And when we decide on the right signage, I am going to, like, print it out or do whatever. And then I'm going to put it up. And I'm going to follow your advice, which is I'm going to come at the whole thing from an angle that's not tipping anyone off as to where my apartment is, et cetera.

You have to do that three times, though. You have to do it when you're setting up the garbage cans out in the garage, and you have to do it, because I'm sure there are a million cameras in that garage. I almost like the idea of you taking care of those cameras first with a can of spray paint, but I know that would be expensive vandalism and highly illegal. But I just love the image of you kind of like coming down in like at nighttime, like you're on ropes for some reason, and you dangle from the ceiling, and you spray paint the cameras so you knock them out. yeah a real caper but either way yeah i let me know what you end up doing as far as the disguise

is concerned we are not going to have time to talk about the top stories that i promoted but if i was going to pick one let's just do this really quickly okay according to this website the mary sue.com uh there's a guy named brian bates i think i said he's a franchisee he's actually the manager of a mcdonald's in windsor canada although he was recently named outstanding manager of the year so you know that he knows his stuff his stuff in an interview um bates was talking uh he was doing an interview over being picked as like the best mcdonald's manager in canada and he was talking about um you know how to manage people through the pandemic etc uh he was also asked exactly what grimace is and this is what he said grimace is a taste bud what yeah okay according to this guy brian bates again who knows his stuff he is a taste bud which is blowing my mind i feel like if our taste buds look like grimace we'd have a real situation

Yeah.

Don't you think of taste buds as being flat?

Kind of. I mean, I think of them as just small little red bumps, but also, I mean, we have a, I mean.

And I guess I shouldn't get hung up on this, but we have a real scale issue as well, like what happened to this taste bud that is as big as a human clown.

The reason that Bates says this is because there was an old tweet from McDonald's corporate Twitter account, which tweeted, Hashtag Grimace Lore says he is the embodiment of a milkshake or a taste bud. The embodiment of a milkshake. This is getting weirder and weirder. Philosophical, yeah. Did you know that there apparently, in the very early days, this is real, Grimace was evil Grimace, a four-armed monster that steals shakes and snacks. And then in 1974, they rebranded him as a goofy, good-natured blob.

Okay. So this is closer to the truth, I think. The truth is they created something that was kind of like maybe a pre-hamburglar, this idea that we need, and that's why he's kind of a monster. And now they don't want to say he's a monster. So they're retroactively trying to give him a specific, you know, comp or something. Like, I don't think he's really a taste bud or the idea of a milkshake. Yeah, that one's a little, like you said, philosophical. Yeah, what it is is it's a marketing thing that's a little all over the place.

What do you think it is about, like, childhood development or kids that these companies, particularly these food companies, are always developing these plot lines where someone's trying to steal the food from the kids and burgle it and robble it? I don't know. Is that something where, like, as a kid, it increases your interest in the product because you think someone's trying to burgle it? Because I just feel like that's always going on In like cereal commercials And well mostly with McDonald's I don't know if that's ever been a plot for like Wendy's Or Burger King But yeah like the Hamburglar The Trix Rabbit jumps to mind The Trix Rabbit is always trying to get

What's the status Of Chester Cheetah Is Chester Cheetah trying to steal No I think that's the other thing too Like who is And I think I'm maybe repeating What I've seen online But it's really all about context, right? Like, why can't the rabbit have some cereal?

Right. Absolutely. Or, let's see, oh, the Lucky Charms. They're always trying to steal his Lucky Charm. Right. So in that case, the kids are stealing the leprechaun stuff. Yeah, little assholes. Seriously. It's just like a whole, it's a weird universe of, instead of just being like, hey, this is a yummy thing we know you'll like. It's like, watch out, a mythical creature going to steal this from you.

Yeah, or you've got to steal it from a mythical creature. Or you've got to steal it from a mythical creature. How about have we learned nothing from Thanksgiving? Let's all sit down and share it together. Isn't that exactly what happened on the first Thanksgiving, Luke? Do I have my American history right? Everybody got along forever?

Everybody got along. Everybody was really fair to everybody else? Everybody was treated with equality and dignity and respect. And everyone gathered around a McDonald's shamrock shake and celebrated the new world. All right. Let's quickly do some music for your weekend. Speaking of music, I am going to, when this is done, chat with the noted folk singer Dar Williams. So we have exactly eight minutes to do this. We can do that, right?

Yeah, I don't have much of a buildup for mine because mine is just weirdly normcore today. I got in the car, I think, a couple of days ago, turned on Kixi Radio, and what was playing? But I Am A Rock by Simon and Garfunkel This is not introducing anybody to any new music But I don't know if that's necessarily our mission For some reason, I mean this is a song that I've heard many times throughout my life And probably went through a phase where I was pretty obsessed with it at one point Probably in high school But I don't know man, I just hadn't really listened to it in a while And I turned it on and I'm wondering if it has to do with the changing of the seasons a little bit Maybe this feels like a fall song to me And I'm not trying to rush summer out the door too quickly but here it is, Labor Day weekend. I get in the car on a cloudy day and I am a rock by Simon and Garfunkel was playing and it just hit me the right way. So let's hope this hits you the right way too.

All right.

A winter's day In a deep and dark December

Really had the months off here, didn't I?

I am alone, gazing from my window to the streets below, on a freshly fallen silent shroud of snow. I am a rock, I am an island. I've built walls, a fortress deep and mighty, that none may penetrate. I have no need of friendship, friendship causes pain. It's laughter and it's loving I disdain.

I love this album so much. It's Sounds of Silence.

That song does kind of slap. I don't think I've given it much thought because I think I was always like five, not confused by the lyrics, but just I think I thought of it as like, oh, that one, that one kind of weird song where he's singing about being a rock, being an island. But I don't think I've actually thought about the music of the song much. But that song is kind of a banger It's so good, it's so sad

And it's obviously about somebody Who's trying to convince themselves That they're not heartbroken They don't succumb to those feelings anymore But what I'm laughing at here is This record, Sounds of Silence Which is, of course, iconic Now I look at it, Luke, I forgot This is the album cover that they spoof In Patriot With their fake folk record And I'm seeing Simon and Garfunkel walking down the road Looking over their shoulders And now it just makes me laugh I can't remember the name of their folk duo

It's their names, isn't it? I think so, I'm so bad at this

We're getting medium play on three independent radio stations in Central Europe Well, yeah, it's like

Well, because what's John's? Lakeman? No, it can't I don't think Lakeman's his Lakeman is his real name? Dorman, I think Lakeman is his real name. Oh, isn't it Tynan and something? I don't know.

Sorry, everyone. Oh, Dorman is the actor's name. I'm getting confused here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to search on the fly here. Anyway, this is irritating, but yeah.

Just go listen to our award-winning Patriot podcast called Macmillan Men. And you can, hey, you know that guy Stephen Conrad's got a new show out. And it's like, it looks really interesting. I think it's animated. Yeah, I guess you call it animation. It sort of almost looks like stop motion with kind of like dolls and things like that, almost like that movie that the South Park guys made about North Korea or something. Anyway, it's just— Team America, I believe. Yeah, I mean it's not exactly like that, but again, I don't know if you call that animation. We should ask our friend Kat. She would know exactly what it's called. But anyway, I watched a trailer for it, and it looked really intriguing to me.

I haven't seen the trailer for it, but I've been seeing a lot of buzz around it. I believe, is Heidecker involved in some way, I think? Yeah, I mean, it's just like.

It's got a really great cast. Yeah. They're just the voices because the actual characters are these little, whatever, stop motion things. Timons and Saperstein. Circles. Timons and Saperstein. Circles of Resonance. Circles of Resonance. That's the album. Come on. I love it. It's so good. So thank you for, that would have really, that would have thrown off my whole Dar Williams interview. Should I ask her if her take on Circles of Resonance, the album? I would love to hear her take on it. Kind of relatively in the same world. All right. The song that I would like to play is one that I just popped up on a Spotify playlist the other day. It's Thundercat, Funny Thing. I just love this guy so much. I wish I would have known more. He was on Livewire, and he was nice. Very high, I think, but very nice. But it was a kind of early Thundercat. And it's like he has now made so much music That I really enjoy I wish I could sort of time travel back And do a better job in the interview But I don't think that's how that works So anyway, let's just listen to this Funny Thing by Thundercat

We'll be right back.

we're getting medium play on three independent radio stations in central europe so there you go

do you know that song

I don't I know that Thundercat I had not heard of Thundercat until you were telling me about your interview on Livewire and then since then Thundercat has apparently blown the hell up I see a lot of people well yeah he's he's he collabs with a lot of people used to do a lot of stuff with Mac Miller and then he's got his solo career which is which is really awesome too I don't I mean I wouldn't have said you know who I'm gonna really be digging is a guy who just plays like kind of crazy bass and kind of jazzy funky music but it really works for me that also that song is because i'm not quite ready for summer to be done

yeah i feel like we need one more summer vibe no i was really i mean i forgot that um that the sounds of silence actually or i'm sorry um i am a rock actually begins talking about winter and december i really really rushed rushed that out well those count but see those balanced each other

out yeah it actually it worked uh our listener suggestion comes from listener shannon who says hey there after listening to your remy wolf recommendation this song popped up on my spotify and it's a real groovy the song is hit him where it hurts by papa rod who i guess is also known as rodney holsey uh shannon says thanks and hope you enjoy shannon in boone north carolina uh i had not heard this song before andrew but it doth slap nice and then i sent it to addy and she was like wow this is good i didn't know about it which is the ultimate i believe her exact response and i do have to go i said let me see i'm going to scroll back really quickly in this i sent her this song and she said wow i can't wait for the day when you're 67 and i'm 50 and we're sending each other the bomb ass dank tracks because i pointed this out before we're going to be old at the same time which is what happens when you have a kid at 17 but um she uh she did not know this music i was able to impress her ever so briefly so thanks shannon for turning me on to this song i think you're gonna like it too andrew it's um hit him where it hurts by papa rod that's how we're gonna wrap the show up this week brings us to the end of our broadcast week thanks for listening thanks for being part of tbtl we'll see you on monday on labor day with a short show but a new show for you until then have a great weekend stay safe take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

baby lately life been crazy your eyes tell all we outside with your call move me need me care about it breathe deep you see what i miss uh holding on to you with a tight grip

lightly no cap heart spilled all over the floor man some doubt i don't know how to hold that

Nowadays I don't really want to hold back

Yeah, so I hit a wear

Yeah, so I hit a wear This is a lighthouse, sir

Yeah, yeah, so I hit a wear

Yeah, so I hit a wear This is a lighthouse I've been down with you

You've been down with me We know this ain't no talk I've been down with you You've been down with me We know this ain't no talk I'm on a quest, learn my roots Ain't that black thought, this my truth

This that tipping point, this that proof Go ahead, spark it up, we off mute

all right do you have um i might get a little more coffee oh yeah that's right we had a plan

clearly you don't know how the plan works

power out